Jake if you ever read this, I just want to tell you that thanks for being a great human being and real wise soul. Your playing of course is phenomenal and been there with you since your days with Ozzy BATM and Ultimate and also the Badlands years. I even saw you play a small rock club in my hometown San Jose , CA. with Mandy Lion and after the show people came up to you for autographs and I brought my Badlands CD cover, and if you folded it out their was a section that had all the Badlands members independently photo shot and asked you if you could sign my Badlands CD with your autograph next to your picture and you looked at Ray's pic and told me "Gosh, I miss that guy....he was a great dude" and I'll be honest I didnt even know that he had died or really didnt keep up with my post Badlands history enough, so I asked you what happened to him , and you said " He passed away".
I’m so glad I got to see Badlands when they came through Atlanta on that first tour. I got to meet Greg and Jake after the show. Highlight of a young guitarist life!
Very lucid person. It is good that he can derail to share a tid bit, but then get back on track to his main point. It is nice to listen to that kind of flow. Good story teller. If you never get your just dues for writing Bark at the Moon, all of us who have listened to this interview have the scoop. :) It is an EXCELLENT song. It would be hard for Ozzy to ever give you credit. If he made an exception for you he would have every other person who wrote a song he took credit for coming out of the woodwork. It's just never going to happen. If it did, I would have a whole new level of respect for Ozzy. But It's hard to imagine. They've built an enduring empire, it's unlikely they would be willing to jeopardize that longevity. They gave you the rules and you signed the deal. Love to you Jake for your contributions to the enrichment of my youth. Forever grateful.
Highwire is what made me pick up a guitar 30+ yrs ago. Still one of the greatest intro riffs with lots of lessons. Feeling and tone is 2nd to nobody on the planet who plays rock and fing roll. I've had the pleasure of teaching a few to play guitar. I always refer that riff and have them learn it. THANKS JAKE, FOR THE INSPIRATION AND PLAYING A HUGE PART OF MY MUSICAL JOURNEY, AND LOVE OF RAW BAD ASS R@R!!!
This interviewer is fantastic! What a breath of fresh air compared to the fuckwad ~ Eddie Trunk! THIS Eddie, is how the big boys conduct interviews. Great job, whomever you are.
I have been wishing for that since the mid 90's. It would have been so awesome for Ozzy to end his career with Jake E Lee as his guitar player. I never got the chance to see Jake E Lee with Ozzy because I was a little kid at that time. It would have been so awesome for Ozzy to do one more studio album and tour with Jake E Lee. That would have been a huge dream come true for me definitely.
What a fucking huge bombshell about Ray. Also Jake never mentions Atlantic discontinuing Badlands due to lawsuits from girls infected by Ray. Could that just be made up bullshit? Jake doesn’t seem like he’d lie about it or be good at hiding that fact. Also the timeline differs from wiki where Ray supposedly learns about being sick after Badlands- this interview shows he knew earlier. This 15 minutes of an interview uncovers more about Badlands than the last 100 interviews Jake has done. You’re either great or lucky but probably both! Happy New Year- subscribing now.
JAKE: I'm just glad Eric was finally able to join KISS and get that equal part of songwriting that he always wanted. INTERVIEWER: Ummmmmm.... JAKE: You know that was sarcasm, right??
I feel Jake is dead wrong here about drummers not deserving of song writing credits, while certainly a basic drummer can be the hired hand, keeping time filling and in spaces after the songs are written like Ringo Starr, but especially inspirational musically minded drummers like Neil Peart from Rush, and Dave Lombardo from Slayer, or Mitch Mitchell from Jimi Hendrix, John Bonham, Bill Ward, Billy Cobham, Tony Williams, and Micheal Narada Micheal Walden of Jeff Beck that were given free reigns to improvise and breathe red hot fire into the songs from the drums, holding their own while leading the band as the locomotive with a supercharger driving the band to far greater heights, while everyone in the band hangs onto the drummers coattails for dear life! Undeniably the gifted odd ball guitarist Jake E. Lee would have reached greater heights of fame, achieved his fullest glory and been much more notable, respected and widely renowned had he ever attracted a world class drummer and given them the space to openly create?
He’s played with phenomenal drummers Eric singer, Tommy Aldridge, randy Castillo, carmine appice. Each band has a unique situation in which songs are created and inspiration is found. So to say what works for one band should work for all is ridiculous it’s apples and oranges one band to another
You have to take into account when he joined ozzy drummers were coming and going constantly so in his situation they were brought in to just keep time and play the parts so it’s unlikely they would have any real input as short as their tenures were. I’m pretty sure he is referring to his situations where the drummers had little or no input writing songs.
@@synthogd808Those cats were alright, for Ozzy, but I wouldn’t even put them on Lee Kerslake’s level, and certainly not on Bill Ward level as a world class percussionist?…8)
Great interview, Jake, but I disagree with you. If the drummer is a part of the writing process they should get credit for their contribution. History shows there are many drum parts that made the song.
Regarding drummers not being part of the songwriting - could not disagree more. Many times in a band situation the drummer plays something that sparks that riff, that sparks that melody. So ... what Lee says is wrong. Maybe in that case Singer wasn't contributing anything that helped those specific riffs and other Badlands parts come along. So if that was the case fine. But generally speaking, Lee is wrong to make that blanket statement. It's why Ward got credit on Sabbath, AVH on VH albums, why Bonham got songwriting credits on things like "Rock and Roll" and "Kashmir." If you have a great drummer you're going to do better as a unit over time if you do have that person credited and motivated to be creative in that way.
@@billywilliams8753 that’s what I’m taking about. When Page and Bonham started jamming and “Kashmir” was born Page said hey give Bonham some credit. I was inspired by his groove to start seriously working on that riff and turn it into a song. It’s not going to be that way with a lot of bands and their drummers I totally get that. But to say it like it’s a black and white statement or a rule - not accurate. You can’t do it or shouldn’t do it - false. If Singer just played along to the songs already written then fine don’t give him credit. Case by case basis. Part of why this is hot topic for me is because it’s happened to me. I can document on rehearsal tapes the birth of songs and before I got involved they were fragments and scraps of ideas. A good drummer can play something to make all that stuff come alive. But I digress. Jake E Lee is clearly not one to talk about how to go about getting songwriting credit lol.
@@allsystemsgo8678 Yeah but they gave it to Anthony too and as far as we know he had zero input on the writing. But it’s a fair point. But it’s because Alex was a great drummer and part of Ed’s sound.
Neither drummer was good enough for this band; you can’t rise above your drummer. They were too busy and not enough pocket/economy. You can’t teach taste. Having said that, badlands was unbeatable and I can overlook some things. As a veteran bassist, I wouldn’t be able to play with those two drummers; can’t imagine what Greg had to go through
Jake if you ever read this, I just want to tell you that thanks for being a great human being and real wise soul. Your playing of course is phenomenal and been there with you since your days with Ozzy BATM and Ultimate and also the Badlands years. I even saw you play a small rock club in my hometown San Jose , CA. with Mandy Lion and after the show people came up to you for autographs and I brought my Badlands CD cover, and if you folded it out their was a section that had all the Badlands members independently photo shot and asked you if you could sign my Badlands CD with your autograph next to your picture and you looked at Ray's pic and told me "Gosh, I miss that guy....he was a great dude" and I'll be honest I didnt even know that he had died or really didnt keep up with my post Badlands history enough, so I asked you what happened to him , and you said " He passed away".
Jesus Christ this interview is insanely good
Much appreciated.
His candor is amazing
One of my childhood favorites! Much love to you Jake. 🎸🎶😎
I’m so glad I got to see Badlands when they came through Atlanta on that first tour. I got to meet Greg and Jake after the show. Highlight of a young guitarist life!
He's so different to other people in the music business. A beautiful humble human being.
Jake is so cool and honest.
Very lucid person. It is good that he can derail to share a tid bit, but then get back on track to his main point. It is nice to listen to that kind of flow. Good story teller. If you never get your just dues for writing Bark at the Moon, all of us who have listened to this interview have the scoop. :) It is an EXCELLENT song.
It would be hard for Ozzy to ever give you credit. If he made an exception for you he would have every other person who wrote a song he took credit for coming out of the woodwork. It's just never going to happen. If it did, I would have a whole new level of respect for Ozzy. But It's hard to imagine. They've built an enduring empire, it's unlikely they would be willing to jeopardize that longevity. They gave you the rules and you signed the deal.
Love to you Jake for your contributions to the enrichment of my youth. Forever grateful.
Highwire is what made me pick up a guitar 30+ yrs ago. Still one of the greatest intro riffs with lots of lessons. Feeling and tone is 2nd to nobody on the planet who plays rock and fing roll. I've had the pleasure of teaching a few to play guitar. I always refer that riff and have them learn it. THANKS JAKE, FOR THE INSPIRATION AND PLAYING A HUGE PART OF MY MUSICAL JOURNEY, AND LOVE OF RAW BAD ASS R@R!!!
This is a fantastic interview!
Awesome interview
This interviewer is fantastic! What a breath of fresh air compared to the fuckwad ~ Eddie Trunk! THIS Eddie, is how the big boys conduct interviews. Great job, whomever you are.
I’m not too familiar with Eddie Trunk but I know who he is. Why is he a f**kwad? I’m genuinely curious. Thank you!!
Such a amazing person.
Absolutely awesome interview.
One more album and tour with the madman! That would be full circle Jake.
I have been wishing for that since the mid 90's. It would have been so awesome for Ozzy to end his career with Jake E Lee as his guitar player. I never got the chance to see Jake E Lee with Ozzy because I was a little kid at that time. It would have been so awesome for Ozzy to do one more studio album and tour with Jake E Lee. That would have been a huge dream come true for me definitely.
Would but nice but I promise you.... it will N E V E R happen !!!
Jake has come a long way from Mar Vista High
What a fucking huge bombshell about Ray. Also Jake never mentions Atlantic discontinuing Badlands due to lawsuits from girls infected by Ray. Could that just be made up bullshit? Jake doesn’t seem like he’d lie about it or be good at hiding that fact. Also the timeline differs from wiki where Ray supposedly learns about being sick after Badlands- this interview shows he knew earlier. This 15 minutes of an interview uncovers more about Badlands than the last 100 interviews Jake has done. You’re either great or lucky but probably both! Happy New Year- subscribing now.
JAKE: I'm just glad Eric was finally able to join KISS and get that equal part of songwriting that he always wanted.
INTERVIEWER: Ummmmmm....
JAKE: You know that was sarcasm, right??
That was great. The interviewer still didn't get it even after Jake explained the joke.
😂🤣😂🤣
It would have been way better bringing jake back than their choice of going with Gus g
I got that same Kustom head that's in the background. Is it worth money? 🤘😎🎸
All he has to do is look it up on here (You Tube) he can listen at no cost.
such a shame
Ya rite jake imagine Metallica with no drums ,,,,
Lars sucks
I feel Jake is dead wrong here about drummers not deserving of song writing credits, while certainly a basic drummer can be the hired hand, keeping time filling and in spaces after the songs are written like Ringo Starr, but especially inspirational musically minded drummers like Neil Peart from Rush, and Dave Lombardo from Slayer, or Mitch Mitchell from Jimi Hendrix, John Bonham, Bill Ward, Billy Cobham, Tony Williams, and Micheal Narada Micheal Walden of Jeff Beck that were given free reigns to improvise and breathe red hot fire into the songs from the drums, holding their own while leading the band as the locomotive with a supercharger driving the band to far greater heights, while everyone in the band hangs onto the drummers coattails for dear life! Undeniably the gifted odd ball guitarist Jake E. Lee would have reached greater heights of fame, achieved his fullest glory and been much more notable, respected and widely renowned had he ever attracted a world class drummer and given them the space to openly create?
He’s played with phenomenal drummers Eric singer, Tommy Aldridge, randy Castillo, carmine appice. Each band has a unique situation in which songs are created and inspiration is found. So to say what works for one band should work for all is ridiculous it’s apples and oranges one band to another
You have to take into account when he joined ozzy drummers were coming and going constantly so in his situation they were brought in to just keep time and play the parts so it’s unlikely they would have any real input as short as their tenures were. I’m pretty sure he is referring to his situations where the drummers had little or no input writing songs.
@@synthogd808Those cats were alright, for Ozzy, but I wouldn’t even put them on Lee Kerslake’s level, and certainly not on Bill Ward level as a world class percussionist?…8)
Go back to ozzy!!!!
Great interview, Jake, but I disagree with you. If the drummer is a part of the writing process they should get credit for their contribution. History shows there are many drum parts that made the song.
Uh Lee Kerslake for example
Regarding drummers not being part of the songwriting - could not disagree more. Many times in a band situation the drummer plays something that sparks that riff, that sparks that melody. So ... what Lee says is wrong. Maybe in that case Singer wasn't contributing anything that helped those specific riffs and other Badlands parts come along. So if that was the case fine. But generally speaking, Lee is wrong to make that blanket statement. It's why Ward got credit on Sabbath, AVH on VH albums, why Bonham got songwriting credits on things like "Rock and Roll" and "Kashmir." If you have a great drummer you're going to do better as a unit over time if you do have that person credited and motivated to be creative in that way.
Let's be honest, of course Alex is going to get songwriting credit when his brother and best friend is writing the music.
I think he's talking in terms of legality with writing credit
@@billywilliams8753 that’s what I’m taking about. When Page and Bonham started jamming and “Kashmir” was born Page said hey give Bonham some credit. I was inspired by his groove to start seriously working on that riff and turn it into a song. It’s not going to be that way with a lot of bands and their drummers I totally get that. But to say it like it’s a black and white statement or a rule - not accurate. You can’t do it or shouldn’t do it - false. If Singer just played along to the songs already written then fine don’t give him credit. Case by case basis. Part of why this is hot topic for me is because it’s happened to me. I can document on rehearsal tapes the birth of songs and before I got involved they were fragments and scraps of ideas. A good drummer can play something to make all that stuff come alive. But I digress. Jake E Lee is clearly not one to talk about how to go about getting songwriting credit lol.
@@allsystemsgo8678 Yeah but they gave it to Anthony too and as far as we know he had zero input on the writing. But it’s a fair point. But it’s because Alex was a great drummer and part of Ed’s sound.
@@Twotontessie Totally agree. Well said
Neither drummer was good enough for this band; you can’t rise above your drummer. They were too busy and not enough pocket/economy. You can’t teach taste. Having said that, badlands was unbeatable and I can overlook some things. As a veteran bassist, I wouldn’t be able to play with those two drummers; can’t imagine what Greg had to go through