I tried turning it off for a day, yes it does save battery but it slows down loading pages and opening certain apps.. it's saves battery but consumes time lol. I turn it on and set to 6 and it's back to being able to load pages fast and open certain apps fast. 😅
You probably got a bad phone i have my ram off for 2 months now and haven't seen any issues phone runs smooth and the battery last longer also I am on the 8gb
RAMplus is actually the swap space. Regardless of whether you turn on the RAMplus function or not, the OneUI system has already preset 3GB of swap space. When you turn on RAMplus and set the size, the size of the swap space will follow your setting, but when you turn off RAMplus, the size of the swap space will return to 3GB. So regardless of whether you turn on RAMplus or not, it is actually always on, and you only have the privilege to set the size.
where did you get this info from? phones are designed at how we use and command them... if samsung made ramplus always on even when we turn it off then the company degrades themselves,. Random access memory and Storage memory works entirely different,. one is slower and one is faster
@@alaxe97swap space is base feature of android and all modern OS use this feature. No point turning off. Default setting without turning on ram+, ram extension or whatever it's named is the best optimized config.
That's not how it works, when it's turned off that space is not used on your phone as a "RAM", you need to ask ChatGPT specific questions next time, don't just ask questions to confirm your biases.
It's not entirely accurate. While RAM Plus may have a default allocation (often around 3 GB), the behavior can vary by device and software version. If you turn off RAM Plus, the designated storage for virtual memory should be freed up, but the system might revert to a default setting when re-enabled. Typically, you can adjust the allocated amount within a certain range, but the specific implementation can differ across models. For the Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra, RAM Plus does not have a dedicated 3 GB swap space that is always active. Instead, RAM Plus allows users to allocate virtual memory from available internal storage as needed, and this allocation can typically be adjusted or turned off. When you disable RAM Plus, the storage used for virtual memory should be freed up. So, it's not accurate to say that there's an always-on 3 GB swap space; it only activates when RAM Plus is enabled.
I was suspicious of this feature slowing down my phone. So I tried turning it off. Now I can see some performance improvements. Glad to see your video, it just confirmed that. Thanks for the info.❤️
I think a better term for RAM Plus is swap, which is what has been in Windows for the longest time, although it's definitely not as good on most consumer PCs as smartphones since they do not have fast storage speeds to provide a good swap performance.
it is swap actually. samsung just decided to give it that name edit: it carries the same function, i have nooo idea if they're EXACTLY the same if you catch my drift.
@@anomalousfiendThey are the same. Ram plus is swap. But PC swap is faster than Phone swap. It's a useless feature on Android unless you have too low ram.
@@anomalousfiend I prefer to turn in off. Idk about you. If your phone have 6GB or 8GB or more RAM then turn it off. It uses storage as virtual ram which keep data and apps stored in it when you run out of actual RAM. If you have 6 or 8 GB RAM then most of the time you won't run out of RAM but if you have 4GB or less RAM. Turn it on. This feature uses storage and it could reduce its life span if you use it on a daily basis as storage is not meant to be used as RAM. Also turning it on consume a bit more battery so less time to use your phone. If you multi-task (Use a lot of apps at the same time in the background) Turn it on. It all depends on how much RAM you have and how you use your phone. Keep in mind that Swap (storage) is much slower than actual RAM. It can't replace RAM but can help with some weight. Hope this helps.
Sorry for necroposting but I noticed a good difference in minimizing heating without a cooler. (I have no idea why, but that's mostly the thing that helped most.)
I was actually skeptical if turning it off would be helpful for my device. I have the Samsung tab S9 FE, and I'm really surprised to see that it really helped the performance in my tablet. I noticed that It's so much better and smoother.
wait really?? i've been noticing some performance issues and idk if it's becuz of this so should i turn off mine?? what's the difference regarding the battery life tho??
@@someoneyouusedtoknow5720 tbh I felt my tab much smoother after I turning it off. With the battery life I haven’t notice any big difference. But on days when I REALLY use it, my battery lasts for over 5 hours. Hope that helps!
Turning it off emulation runs way better and alot more stable. Especially on aethersx2 it makes a pretty noticeable difference more so if you have limited ram, I have a 8gb ram phone and makes a night and day difference
Have the S22 Ultra. I don't necessarily agree with your reasonings. Only the space allotted and reserved by RAM Plus bears the grunt of more frequent Read and Writes, not the rest of the Storage. Secondly, RAM Plus aka Swap, is not a performance booster. It's just more RAM. And you'll see its benefit when you see a lot of your Apps not reloading when you open them back again. Tho tbh everybody has different experiences. Some say that their performance increases after turning it off. I turned it off, everything remained same, except for the constant app reloads. Heck, even my webpages open in Samsung Internet began reloading. After a week, turned RAM Plus back on.
Your understanding of "Only the space allotted and reserved by RAM Plus bears the grunt....not the rest of the Storage" is unfortunately incorrect. All SSDs, including flash storage have a controller that keep track of each cell write status and dictates where each bit of data go. Unlike physical RAM, each bit address is thus only known and controlled by these controller and hidden from higher-level OS. Modern SSDs controller equipped with wear-leveling algorithm where each data is written and keep it that way in physical cell 'well' and hidden from upper-level OS when you do delete operations. Any new valid data is exposed to the OS without any hex address. This is done to avoid certain cell have higher wear-rate than the others. When a flash storage is full, only then the old, 'hidden' bit is rewritten with new set of data and exposed to the OS. In short, the RAM Plus dont have any 'reserved' hex space in flash storage, only capacity limit. All the write/overwrite ops will still be done throughout the whole flash area. Now, some manufacturer use less agressive RAM Plus implementation and thats okay for flash storage lifespan IMO, but its hard to be sure with all kind of 'dirty trick' these smartphone manufacturer does these days.
@@primonda56 So that means the same space 8 GB of these 512 GB won't be overused... I have an old 256 GB SSD with 64 GB allocated for virtual memory, it is still working perfectly
@@lucasrtavares I'm not the same user but thought I could help. My device is 4GB ram and I literally just turned this option off and instantly notice an improvement in speed and battery length!
@AlexRaylight That's what I was referring to when I mentioned "speed." Overall performance was better with it off. Made me baffled why it even exist but I'm certain some devices may benefit or else this feature might be removed in the future.
I just got my Samsung Galaxy A53 5g, and im So! Happy with it 😊, and i found you in here is just so much better,, for now i love what your work and what you are doing. . can't wait to see more videos from you.. keep that good work up and running. Hope you are having an amazing day 😃
I have s21 ultra 16 ram .. i was using the 8 gig ram plus almost broke the system always lagging and apps some time closing .. i see this video now .. i feel it wakes up the giant inside this monster .. really thanks a lot almost buy new phone .. apple update system was thinking ..
This is a very conflicting topic and very confusing. I have heard arguments both ways for why it's better on and off. I'm just going to leave it on the way I got it. My phone runs fine and I don't think it is going to hurt anything
It makes sense but is it proven? If you take a photo or pretty much do anything will contribute to the lifecycle of the flash memory. And this lifecycle is should be 4-5+ years anyway. I mean, I'm guessing too. And doesn't RAM plus come into place when physical RAM is full?
I know this is old, but as a software engineer in Linux and Android community, I have to clarify these. Now this thing have been around a lot longer, ever since Android Eclair as a method to increase app-holding capacity. Mind you, at those era, it is beneficial because most smartphone only have around 512MB - 1.5GB RAM capacity. Most modder will simply take some space from SDcard as Extended RAM, but it was painfully slow. And no, lifecycle of modern flash-storage is about 15+ years if used according to manufacturer recommendation, in which Extended RAM isnt one of them. Now, the actual problem with Extended RAM is by how the data is accesses. RAM access involves a lot of read and write operations. Thats why actual RAM bandwidth is much wider by at least 5x times when compared with same generation of flash storage chip. This alone reduce performance of storage access speed by occupying a lot of bandwidth needed for the Extended RAM to work. In PC environment, this is called as 'swapfile'. Second issue is the storage degradation issue. Solid state storage (EMMC/SSD/UFS, SD, etc) all have limited numbers of write/overwrite operation by how the data is stored in each cell. Unlike RAM chips, they dont refresh charged cell but simply storing each bit by penetrating electrons into the cell 'well'. This operations do degrade the cell overtime, specifically when write/overwrite operation occur. This didnt happens when you take a photo, unless if you are taking thousands of photo in an hour until storage is full and delete all the photo and repeat the same process multiple times a day, indefinitely. This is how Extended RAM works. Third point, Extended RAM is not only used when physical RAM is full exclusively. It is always be in use for cache of previous or older app and data that have been accessed since boot-up. Their swappiness value can be programmed if desired but by default, the manufacturer set it to their own. Ive seen some set it at 20% physical RAM usage! So each time any data is required by any app or operations, the CPU need to look for the data both in the physical and Extended RAM, instead of only finding it in physical RAM only. That double the workload and increase latency, and obviously increase power usage. The way RAM is utilised by having a constant read/write is what cause storage performance loss and chip degradation. Not to mention, flash-storage chip controller are not designed to handle RAM-like operations workload, so there is a possibility of higher failure-rate of the controller itself. If the controller dies, no data can be recovered by any software-mean. Even physical data extraction is impossible if the data is encrypted with FDE. In summary, Extended ram cause 3 bad main point. 1- Lowering performance by consuming extra bandwidth. 2 - Causing higher workload to the processor by increasing data-shuffling point, increase overall latency and power consumptions. 3 - Degradation of storage cell and higher controller workload imposed by high read/write operations, which are not specifically designed for flash-storage chips. This is all are proven in labs, but the result vary between manufacturers. Now, the benefit for Extended RAM is for device with very limited RAM capacity, which is by today standard is below 6GB. If they are experiencing out-of-memory situations often, such as getting force closed in the middle of loading an app or app crashed while using it, this is beneficial for them. However, there are another method that is much better called Zram compression algorithm. You can look it up. Extended RAM is, in my opinion are better suit as a last resort if you're dealing with a lot of data in an instance and not having enough RAM capacity. Now some might say, by enabling Extended RAM, their phone feels fast eventhough having more than 8GB of physical RAM. There is a lot of 'dirty tricks' phone manufacturer uses to advertised their features to the market, including throttling/boosting performance when certain feature or app are ON, but thats a whole another story. Sorry for such a long read.
@@oldtunes817 Well for starter, both VRAM and RAM are the same thing. Fundamentally built and operate in same manners, especially in the same generation with a bit of 'tweaks' here and there to suit each of their purposes. RAM is Random Access Memory, used for caching all the data for the processor after fetching it from sources such as storage, networking or external drives. Also used to cache processed data to be used later if applicable. Think of source as a barn for your unlimited kitchenware and RAM is your kitchen cabinet to store your frequently used knife and spoon. You will find the item you needed much faster in the cabinet instead of the barn. That is the purpose of RAM. To speed up the process of finding the data the processor need for the whole system. Next, VRAM stand for 'Video Random Access Memory'. The 'video' part make it obvious for what its used for. It is usually a dedicated IC module built into the graphic card. Note that on a system with "integrated graphic" such Intel's and smartphone SoC, VRAM are usually absent and instead rely on system's RAM with their pre-allocated space. Some can be extend, some have dedicated VRAM as well, but most dont. It main purpose is to cache any data that is in use in the graphic subsystem pipelines to accelerate graphical processing task. What make it 'special' is they usually have higher bandwidth/bus than standard RAM used in the main computer system. This is to ensure minimal bottleneck-condition and race condition with the system's RAM because GPU access a lot more data in parallel than the CPU. This have an advantage of reducing system's RAM bandwidth usage and offload most of the graphic's data fetching to the GPU and thus increasing overall performance. Hope this'll help.
Just got a S10e coming from a A20 and the performance upgrade is amazing. My model has 6gb ram I guess is good considering that I had half that a few weeks ago. I remember seeing your video and videos like this a couple months back so as soon I got this I tried turning it off but I can't there's no off switch only a 2gb, 4gb, and 6gb option. 4gb was enabled by default so should I just let it be or are there other ways to turn it off
@@RKing-dy1uv I couldn't tell I've had mine on 4gb 6gb now its on 2gb and I dont see a difference. Maybe if I were to test it there would but it would be slight difference, not in performance but in how long background apps stay open
big-big Thumbs-Up. Being a data-technician, and having tried a Qnap-NAS that ruined 2 SSD's for me in 2018 (before I searched into that lifespan-issues of these was the problem) - then I take this just as (or even more) seriously! And, I am actually shocked, that Samsung turns this ON, by default. I didn't have the imagination to think, when buying my S21, that it was using "storage as a RAM-extension". But, is was - so, I just went in, at turned if off, without any hesitation! What a serious bummer, to the disadvantage of the customer, and advantage of the companies (that will be able to sell many more mobilephones / tablets, in the coming years (when the current do fail). History: With mobiles & Tablets, I stumbled upon this, while searching for a cheap-n-simple wall-tablet (for use as a smart-home wall-panel)... and, then sae the Chinese brands at Amazon advertizing with their unrealistic high RAM-amounts, and for instance 12GB (6+6 GB) RAM. I then thought, that it only was the usual non-environmental chinese "buy-and-throw-out" standard! But, then a seller of a second-hand samsung-tablet lead me to this, with Samsung! All-in-All: Thanks for letting people in, on this. And, thanks for clarifying, what is on stake - besides the usual focus on speed/responsiveness! And, I should Add: That just after 2-3 months, the 2 SSD's in the Qnap-NAS, went All-Dead! So - it is not only "a decrease in SSD/Flash-performance" that is the consequence - it is a dead mobile unit! .. Actually, it is horrific, IF the Flash-Storage dies, as my SSD's did! - because it will wadte a lot of mobile-units. It actually looks like, that nearly if not all phones/tablets sold ?since 2021? is with RAM-extension enabled by default - and since only appr. 1% will go in and actively disable this "time-bomb", then we have a potentially 99% mobile-units with a substantial decreased life-span!... I wonder, if all/which brands, that are using this "I don't have words for this consumer-scam"?
windows does it by default, macOS and linux also have a page file. ive got 16 gigs of ram in my PC and still have vram/pagefile. pretty sure the computer/phone can use it to preload what it will need from storage. like it can load to storage cache.
On my xcover pro, it would crash and restart on samsung internet, amazon, ebay, etc. Thinking it was a webview problem, installed webview canary instead... still happening. After some research, discovered that my RAM plus was set to 4gb. (Xcover pro has 4gb physical RAM). So I was using 4gb physical and 4gb virtual RAM... Not good. Switched off RAM Plus and haven't had any crashes since.
I have a samsung galaxy S10 and it doesn't have the option to turn off ram plus, so if there is a way to do this could you please enlighten me ,thank you. Keep up with the fantastic videos they are a must watch for me.
No effect what so ever for people who buy new phones perhaps every other year or so, but it is over time detrimental to phones in several ways. Why do you think that Samsung has set this 'on' by default instead of 'off'? The faster the phone breaks down/require repairs/goes caput, who benefits the most?
I have a S22 Ultra 128GB phone, and I'm glad that I turned that off since the One UI 5.0. Before that update, there was no way to turn it off and I can only use the minimum of 2GB. For my reason why I turned off RAM Plus because I need to save more storage due to mine is a 128GB variant. The lack of microSD expansion didn't help.
I have the same phone but i feel phone is faster with 8gb ram plus...should i turn it off ?.. i use my storage upto 70 to 80 gb max never more than that..
@@Isaac-gh5ku yeah i did turned it off yesterday after some research and now when i did some tests after 12 hrs found the speed is almost same just about 1 or 2 sec slower so thanks mate😁
@@foreignerJas_Gaming for me i have a midrange samsung phone if ur wondering its the m14 5g when i had ram plus enabled for a week it didnt slow down but my phone started acting sluggish and like exiting a app took like 3 seconds i was searching for weeks then in the settings i noticed ram plus comes on by default i disabled it and immediately noticed performance improvements if ur wondering btw my phone has 6gigs of ram like without ram plus it comes with 6gigs of ram
@@dlovansl2 no honestly it wont impact your peformance at all cuz u hsve a flagship but i will recommend to yurn it off as it can cause wear nd tear on ur flash drive i have tutned mine off too
I am using note 8 then decided to download this app called swap and I was suprised about the sudden changes in speed of my phone especially in gaming and fb. But the bad side is the battery life.
I don't think so, but here's why I think that it doesn't mean you should get another model with higher RAM. I play wuthering waves on an A34 5G with 8 gb ram and I've had alot of stuttering and lag after a recent update that added a new area, due to insufficient RAM, and no, it had nothing to do with the chipset. Had to turn on RAM plus to slightly increase my RAM and the game stopped stuttering and started running smoothly. Other games run fine without RAM plus and so far only wuthering waves was the only game that needed me to slightly increase my RAM. You can easily add RAM using RAM plus if your game needs more than what your device has. Though, make sure to always set the amount of virtual RAM to be lower than your current physical RAM, or else your device will start slowing down since your physical RAM is much, much more faster than virtual RAM.
I put that battery levels widget on my home screen and anytime I take my s pen out, nothing happens. It doesn't show a battery level for it and my RAM Plus is off.
I'm of the same opinion since when I unplug the RAM Plus, the battery widget only shows the battery level. Even when I reconnected it, the s pen level disappeared. Why can't I see the other levels?
But VRAM should only kick in when phisical RAM is full right? In the case of 12GB models, that is not getting anywear near full in regular use. So it shouldn't matter if it's on or off.
@SamsungInAMinute I apologize, I'm learning to think more theologically and your response rubbed me the wrong way. So, it's about to sound a bit like a college debate here, lol. It's not up to the user whether it makes a difference or not. The question is: does it have any effect on performance if it isn't actively being used? It seems to be a placebo effect to claim a difference in performance; it's unlikely to have any performance effects just simply having the switch toggled on if it never gets used. This is unless it's sending memory to the storage even before reaching the physical RAM threshold, which we have no evidence of, thus rendering this entire video nothing but a baseless claim. Assuming that's not the case, if someone is tapping into that vram enough for flash cycles to be a problem, then perhaps they need to carry a desktop instead of a phone. A proper response would have been that you have no way of actually knowing this without extensive testing and/or jerry-rigging it to a computer and deciphering the code (or asking samsung themselves how they've programmed it to activate). Your response seems a bit cowardly, deliberately rudely dismissive and doesn't exactly exude the kind of confidence we're looking for in a guy giving us tech advice. This response seemed a bit like affirmative care- allowing the belief that reality is something that we construct. There is an objective answer to this, and you would look better admitting that you don't know what it is, than dismissing the idea altogether. Of course what is up to the user, however, is to test and see if there's any difference or trade-offs of either decision. Ultimately, it seems likely to have no affect until it's actively being used; and if you're stretching your phone to need that much ram, then you'd be experiencing worse performance issues with it disabled as the device would be trying to perform beyond the allotted threshold. My conclusion, it's best to leave it on just in case because it won't make difference. There's likely no risk of it slowing performance until it is being tapped into (barring the possibility that it's being used even before reaching the phone's physical ram threshold). And any performance losses once it activates are worth the trade, as the other option is to not have the extra ram at all, thus significantly slowing performance.
Is there actual proof that it's using the virtual RAM even when the real RAM is not full yet? That doesn't make sense... Cuz why would it use the slower RAM plus when the faster real RAM is not even full yet?
@saruman4004 that's what we are saying. It's very very likely not using ram plus until the physical ram is full. Thus why it is not slowing the phone down at all unless you've used all the physical ram. Once that happens, you have two options: let it stop running more processes because you've reached max ram, or use the slower ram plus for some of the processes. So, you can either have the phone not perform new actions at all or be slower at performing those actions with ram plus on. Again, this is only once you've reached max physical ram. Thus rendering this video and other videos completely irrelevant.
"I would rather" seems this is some uneducated video heavily based on opinion attempting to present falsehoods as fact. Ram plus only accesses the storage once physical ram is all used up, not "constantly" being accessed, so your "I would rather" is moot. The way this works - normally, once you run out of ram, the oldest running apps are freed from memory. Ram plus simply copies the current memory state of the app into a temporary storage. When the app is next accessed, instead of having the start the app again and navigate back to where you were, it will instead start the app using the memory state saved in the temporary folder. This all happens insanely quick due to ufs storage speeds, almost as fast as Ram (I wonder why its called virtual ram?) As a professional enterprise expert software engineer, I recommend that you in fact, leave Ram Plus ON and set the memory to the highest capacity possible!
I have the s24 Ultra after watching this video I turned it off and my phone started to lag and you're absolutely right with your assessment you should leave it on and by the way when you first get the phone Ram plus is on
@@DavidPerez-q2r S24 Ultra should never be lagging regardless of ram plus setting. If your current-gen flagship is having performance issues, you might have bigger problems like a product defect or computer virus
I have the z fold 5 256gb 12gb ram I want more power for multitasking and gaming is the best option to turn of to get best benefits of 12gb ram. for me i switch every year to newest fold. What is your opinion
I have a question what's better to charge the S23 Ultra with a normal fast charger or with the super fast charging? And does super fast charging harm your device?
You may need it in 3 years time, they are future proofing it. The 256gb only have 8gb not 12 like the 512gb. Pcs have been using this for donkey years and has not wreaked their computers but the memory its using is still constantly reading and writing also
@abundantharmony it's to future proof your phone. 8gb is enough now, but in 3 years time it won't be. Also pc's use this type of caching for years and not effecting life of the flash memory, and nowadays pcs are using SSD
Has thos feature been around since the S23 launch? I never even noticed it. And yeah mine is on by default. Wish i knew earlier. I think they way it should work is use only the physical ram and only seap when necessary to reduce the storage degradation if that makes sense. From the way you explained it, sounds like it's always on even if you still have ram.
I have the S23+ with 8GB of ram. Can someone tell me why more than half of this ram is already used up without even opening any aps?? I thought 8GB of ram would be great, but then realize after buying this phone that there is really only 3.4 GB of ram available for apps. This is stupid to me.
Lol, am I the only one here wants to push my phone to it's limit? Haha, before I even watch this video I even put my ram plus to 8gb from 4gb default. In 2-3 years I'm going to upgrade my phone anyway so I really don't care about wear and tear of the storage and anything inside. ( I didn't notice any sluggishness or anything like that at all so I'm keeping it, - s23u)
Data is written in and out of these devices everyday..nothing last forever..lets use these gadgets at their fullest 🤝🏿🙂..its has good and bad effects.such is life
many people also want to prolong the lifespan of their devices as much as possible too, since it is an expensive investment. If there are small things that can be done to increase the life of the product, it is better economically and ecologically. An example of this is that I turned off fast charging and limited the charging level to 85%. Yes, I can use my device to the "fullest", however I find that it is not necessary since the phone already charges fast enough and lasts long enough on battery power for me. Therefore, I want to prolong the lifespan of battery as long as possible. Yes, the battery will inevitably deteriorate because like you said, "nothing lasts forever" - but I want it to last long enough until Samsung stops supporting the device (5 years of security updates).
Good video, however In every instance Vram has always been Video Ram on GPUs so whenever I or any other technician I know hears Vram we think of that and not Virtual Ram, in fact in dealing with phones I do not think I have ever heard of "Vram" mentioned in that case. Virtual RAM, dynamic RAM expansion, extended RAM are all the same and different phone companies refer to it differently,. Where Vram is standardized for Video Ram on a GPU. Just my 2 cents ;)
I have the s10 8gb ram version I turned my ram plus to 8gb and noticed a difference, it played codm better and over all a bit smoother So i like it this way
@G4n3ro feel smoother? That isn't the case. Turning on to 8gb ram plus is worse bro for a gamer like you. It doesn't feel smooth but it actually making your game process more faster it makin your game fast forward because of the process of vram. It cause lag spikes more often and your phone heats faster. I recommend you should turn it of and make your grphics set to low in codm
the only thing that differs in real life performance is the speed to get out of standby when you leave the phone with an open app.with swap it takes half second where without it is immediate
I have an Oppo phone, with this option known as "Ram Expansion". I have it set to 4gb but I suppose I should turn it off too despite different to Samsung's Ram Plus??
oh btw, flash memory cells live up to 20 mby 50 yrs on a cellphone and ja, Samsung Ram Plus does nothing more than to expand or shrinking the size of the page file which is always on and only can be deactivated by kernel helpers on a rooted device. if you turn SRPlus off then the pagefile just uses its original size but stays active. it does literally nothing in puncto performance and is just a marketing thing. Chinese phones had it so Samsung has to had it too. it's just silly.
Mine is running like hell and heats up really fast in games when is turned off but when i have it on it works so smooth and heats so slow and works perfectly
yeah we can only turn off this on one ui 5 devices i am using a note 10 plus one ui 4.1 after seeing this video I just changed my ram plus from 6gb to 2gb bcoz thats the maximum I can do likely to be turned off
I have the Xiaomi Note 13 Pro Plus 512GB 12GB. .I turned on the RAM extension to 12GB (the highest it can go) and I think it literally said I had like 434.somethingGB of 512GB storage left😲 I was like WHAAATTT?
Soo I just bought Samsung galaxy a53 and it gives me option to use 2gb of Ram to 8gb of Ram what should I use for the best performance and it to be faster ?
Just use ram plus on dude and set to 8gb ram plus why?because ram plus only recommend for mid range device only not for flagship like s series also ram plus does not make drain battery and heating your phone
I have the 8gb version with or without plus the ram management really sucks.. when I switch between two app YT and setting is just closes YT all together. I can not figure out why. It restarts almost every app I have opened.. do you guys have any idea?
@@SamsungInAMinute Thank you mate!) I already turned off ram+ , and it shows me 7.1gb space.. with ram+8 used to be 5.5 gb in best scenario.. so i think the gaming would definitely tell how it is. Thank you! 😊
Your arguments about sleed of RAM and internal storage memory is ridiculous and superficial. Leave this feature ON. It is better fir your device to keep it ON. Do not listen non-legit amateur sofa RUclips bloggers.
Actual RAM is way, way faster than your storage, if you don't need the extra ram but have it enabled the phone might use storage regardless and this might slow down things quite a bit.
@@Russsssss because it might be used even when RAM is not full, for example storing data that is not of high priority or when the RAM is almost full. I'm not exactly sure what procedure they are following for this, but as a matter of fact, RAM Plus slows. From there I can only speculate.
@@Lanxxe why would they enable this by default? It really seems like Samsung are shooting themselves in the foot if they are purposefully shipping phones with settings that are making them slower. Like, they are trying to intentionally fail all the speed test comparisons that RUclipsr's do? It is really strange
@@PrabhablyAGoodRUclipsr don't really know, but if I had to guess then I would say it is because its more energy efficient (don't quote me on that tho) because storage is as energy efficient as RAM is fast, so using some of the former would lead to battery life improvements I think, which is what the average consumer notices first. People who buy low and midrangers (where the slowdown is most noticeable) don't care about performance as much as battery life, while on flagships, the difference is fairly minimal from what I've seen.
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I tried turning it off for a day, yes it does save battery but it slows down loading pages and opening certain apps.. it's saves battery but consumes time lol. I turn it on and set to 6 and it's back to being able to load pages fast and open certain apps fast. 😅
Will rather save battery phone speed is fast
You probably got a bad phone i have my ram off for 2 months now and haven't seen any issues phone runs smooth and the battery last longer also I am on the 8gb
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RAMplus is actually the swap space. Regardless of whether you turn on the RAMplus function or not, the OneUI system has already preset 3GB of swap space. When you turn on RAMplus and set the size, the size of the swap space will follow your setting, but when you turn off RAMplus, the size of the swap space will return to 3GB. So regardless of whether you turn on RAMplus or not, it is actually always on, and you only have the privilege to set the size.
where did you get this info from? phones are designed at how we use and command them... if samsung made ramplus always on even when we turn it off then the company degrades themselves,. Random access memory and Storage memory works entirely different,. one is slower and one is faster
@@alaxe97swap space is base feature of android and all modern OS use this feature. No point turning off. Default setting without turning on ram+, ram extension or whatever it's named is the best optimized config.
@@alaxe97 execute command "free -m" in terminal emulator
That's not how it works, when it's turned off that space is not used on your phone as a "RAM", you need to ask ChatGPT specific questions next time, don't just ask questions to confirm your biases.
It's not entirely accurate. While RAM Plus may have a default allocation (often around 3 GB), the behavior can vary by device and software version. If you turn off RAM Plus, the designated storage for virtual memory should be freed up, but the system might revert to a default setting when re-enabled. Typically, you can adjust the allocated amount within a certain range, but the specific implementation can differ across models.
For the Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra, RAM Plus does not have a dedicated 3 GB swap space that is always active. Instead, RAM Plus allows users to allocate virtual memory from available internal storage as needed, and this allocation can typically be adjusted or turned off. When you disable RAM Plus, the storage used for virtual memory should be freed up. So, it's not accurate to say that there's an always-on 3 GB swap space; it only activates when RAM Plus is enabled.
I was suspicious of this feature slowing down my phone. So I tried turning it off. Now I can see some performance improvements. Glad to see your video, it just confirmed that. Thanks for the info.❤️
I think a better term for RAM Plus is swap, which is what has been in Windows for the longest time, although it's definitely not as good on most consumer PCs as smartphones since they do not have fast storage speeds to provide a good swap performance.
it is swap actually. samsung just decided to give it that name
edit: it carries the same function, i have nooo idea if they're EXACTLY the same if you catch my drift.
@@anomalousfiendThey are the same. Ram plus is swap. But PC swap is faster than Phone swap. It's a useless feature on Android unless you have too low ram.
@@user-pt2el1tt1r real quick: do you think it's better to leave ram plus on, or off?? and why? if you don't mind
@@anomalousfiend I prefer to turn in off. Idk about you. If your phone have 6GB or 8GB or more RAM then turn it off. It uses storage as virtual ram which keep data and apps stored in it when you run out of actual RAM. If you have 6 or 8 GB RAM then most of the time you won't run out of RAM but if you have 4GB or less RAM. Turn it on. This feature uses storage and it could reduce its life span if you use it on a daily basis as storage is not meant to be used as RAM. Also turning it on consume a bit more battery so less time to use your phone. If you multi-task (Use a lot of apps at the same time in the background) Turn it on. It all depends on how much RAM you have and how you use your phone. Keep in mind that Swap (storage) is much slower than actual RAM. It can't replace RAM but can help with some weight. Hope this helps.
@@user-pt2el1tt1r forgot to respond but you totally helped, i appreciate you
Had it off for two days now. Can't say I notice any difference. If anything it's slightly slower. Battery no difference at all. 256/12GB RAM 22 Ultra.
Animation on my a53 was stuttering until i turned it off.
@@Codyslx Same on A52s!
Sorry for necroposting but I noticed a good difference in minimizing heating without a cooler. (I have no idea why, but that's mostly the thing that helped most.)
I was actually skeptical if turning it off would be helpful for my device. I have the Samsung tab S9 FE, and I'm really surprised to see that it really helped the performance in my tablet. I noticed that It's so much better and smoother.
wait really?? i've been noticing some performance issues and idk if it's becuz of this so should i turn off mine?? what's the difference regarding the battery life tho??
@@someoneyouusedtoknow5720 tbh I felt my tab much smoother after I turning it off. With the battery life I haven’t notice any big difference. But on days when I REALLY use it, my battery lasts for over 5 hours. Hope that helps!
Thanks bro
My phone's speed has increased 25 % after turning off Ram plus mode
Smothness has also increased
Galaxy s21 fe 5g
Hod tf u even measure a 25 percent boost in performance
I also have a s21 fe (snapdragon 888) do you think really turning it off is better?
@@Netxel *ip dectected - your from usa*
@@plsme-ps1rd no france
Turning it off emulation runs way better and alot more stable. Especially on aethersx2 it makes a pretty noticeable difference more so if you have limited ram, I have a 8gb ram phone and makes a night and day difference
Buy a s20 ultra 12gb ramb and 16gb ram bummmm
Have the S22 Ultra.
I don't necessarily agree with your reasonings. Only the space allotted and reserved by RAM Plus bears the grunt of more frequent Read and Writes, not the rest of the Storage.
Secondly, RAM Plus aka Swap, is not a performance booster. It's just more RAM. And you'll see its benefit when you see a lot of your Apps not reloading when you open them back again.
Tho tbh everybody has different experiences. Some say that their performance increases after turning it off. I turned it off, everything remained same, except for the constant app reloads. Heck, even my webpages open in Samsung Internet began reloading.
After a week, turned RAM Plus back on.
Your understanding of "Only the space allotted and reserved by RAM Plus bears the grunt....not the rest of the Storage" is unfortunately incorrect. All SSDs, including flash storage have a controller that keep track of each cell write status and dictates where each bit of data go. Unlike physical RAM, each bit address is thus only known and controlled by these controller and hidden from higher-level OS. Modern SSDs controller equipped with wear-leveling algorithm where each data is written and keep it that way in physical cell 'well' and hidden from upper-level OS when you do delete operations. Any new valid data is exposed to the OS without any hex address. This is done to avoid certain cell have higher wear-rate than the others. When a flash storage is full, only then the old, 'hidden' bit is rewritten with new set of data and exposed to the OS.
In short, the RAM Plus dont have any 'reserved' hex space in flash storage, only capacity limit. All the write/overwrite ops will still be done throughout the whole flash area.
Now, some manufacturer use less agressive RAM Plus implementation and thats okay for flash storage lifespan IMO, but its hard to be sure with all kind of 'dirty trick' these smartphone manufacturer does these days.
@@primonda56 So that means the same space 8 GB of these 512 GB won't be overused... I have an old 256 GB SSD with 64 GB allocated for virtual memory, it is still working perfectly
It makes my apps reload constantly when switching between them. So, 4GB is a balanced one. Good performance without reload apps.
Do you mean you prefer it turned on with 4gb?
Did you test it turned off?
I still don't know what to do with mine.
@@lucasrtavares I'm not the same user but thought I could help. My device is 4GB ram and I literally just turned this option off and instantly notice an improvement in speed and battery length!
@@MeruMelKun But what about app reloading? You conveniently left out that aspect...
@AlexRaylight That's what I was referring to when I mentioned "speed." Overall performance was better with it off. Made me baffled why it even exist but I'm certain some devices may benefit or else this feature might be removed in the future.
Turned mine off after reading reviews on Reddit that the constant R/W was causing battery drain. TY for making this!
Yea that's a good reason too. Didn't think to mention that, but makes complete sense with the constant read and write. Lol
That isn't normal that Virtual Ram aka Swap is causing battery drain have you both reported in samsung members as an issue?
@@SamsungInAMinuteShould I buy the 12 GB model over the 8 GB model ?
I just got my Samsung Galaxy A53 5g, and im So! Happy with it 😊, and i found you in here is just so much better,, for now i love what your work and what you are doing. . can't wait to see more videos from you.. keep that good work up and running. Hope you are having an amazing day 😃
Thank you 😊
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Is it useful for phones with not alot of ram like 6 or less? I thought it only dipped into vram when your regular ram was maxed out
I have 6g ram phone there is no difference in multitasking.
I have s21 ultra 16 ram .. i was using the 8 gig ram plus almost broke the system always lagging and apps some time closing .. i see this video now .. i feel it wakes up the giant inside this monster .. really thanks a lot almost buy new phone .. apple update system was thinking ..
I turned ram plus off on my S23 ultra and 3DMark benchmark wildlife got maxed out! With ram plus on it was a score of 5708!
This is a very conflicting topic and very confusing. I have heard arguments both ways for why it's better on and off. I'm just going to leave it on the way I got it. My phone runs fine and I don't think it is going to hurt anything
Can i ask ur Internal ram capacity?
Yeah, me too
It makes sense but is it proven? If you take a photo or pretty much do anything will contribute to the lifecycle of the flash memory. And this lifecycle is should be 4-5+ years anyway. I mean, I'm guessing too. And doesn't RAM plus come into place when physical RAM is full?
I know this is old, but as a software engineer in Linux and Android community, I have to clarify these. Now this thing have been around a lot longer, ever since Android Eclair as a method to increase app-holding capacity. Mind you, at those era, it is beneficial because most smartphone only have around 512MB - 1.5GB RAM capacity. Most modder will simply take some space from SDcard as Extended RAM, but it was painfully slow. And no, lifecycle of modern flash-storage is about 15+ years if used according to manufacturer recommendation, in which Extended RAM isnt one of them.
Now, the actual problem with Extended RAM is by how the data is accesses. RAM access involves a lot of read and write operations. Thats why actual RAM bandwidth is much wider by at least 5x times when compared with same generation of flash storage chip. This alone reduce performance of storage access speed by occupying a lot of bandwidth needed for the Extended RAM to work. In PC environment, this is called as 'swapfile'.
Second issue is the storage degradation issue. Solid state storage (EMMC/SSD/UFS, SD, etc) all have limited numbers of write/overwrite operation by how the data is stored in each cell. Unlike RAM chips, they dont refresh charged cell but simply storing each bit by penetrating electrons into the cell 'well'. This operations do degrade the cell overtime, specifically when write/overwrite operation occur. This didnt happens when you take a photo, unless if you are taking thousands of photo in an hour until storage is full and delete all the photo and repeat the same process multiple times a day, indefinitely. This is how Extended RAM works.
Third point, Extended RAM is not only used when physical RAM is full exclusively. It is always be in use for cache of previous or older app and data that have been accessed since boot-up. Their swappiness value can be programmed if desired but by default, the manufacturer set it to their own. Ive seen some set it at 20% physical RAM usage! So each time any data is required by any app or operations, the CPU need to look for the data both in the physical and Extended RAM, instead of only finding it in physical RAM only. That double the workload and increase latency, and obviously increase power usage.
The way RAM is utilised by having a constant read/write is what cause storage performance loss and chip degradation. Not to mention, flash-storage chip controller are not designed to handle RAM-like operations workload, so there is a possibility of higher failure-rate of the controller itself. If the controller dies, no data can be recovered by any software-mean. Even physical data extraction is impossible if the data is encrypted with FDE.
In summary, Extended ram cause 3 bad main point.
1- Lowering performance by consuming extra bandwidth.
2 - Causing higher workload to the processor by increasing data-shuffling point, increase overall latency and power consumptions.
3 - Degradation of storage cell and higher controller workload imposed by high read/write operations, which are not specifically designed for flash-storage chips. This is all are proven in labs, but the result vary between manufacturers.
Now, the benefit for Extended RAM is for device with very limited RAM capacity, which is by today standard is below 6GB. If they are experiencing out-of-memory situations often, such as getting force closed in the middle of loading an app or app crashed while using it, this is beneficial for them. However, there are another method that is much better called Zram compression algorithm. You can look it up. Extended RAM is, in my opinion are better suit as a last resort if you're dealing with a lot of data in an instance and not having enough RAM capacity. Now some might say, by enabling Extended RAM, their phone feels fast eventhough having more than 8GB of physical RAM. There is a lot of 'dirty tricks' phone manufacturer uses to advertised their features to the market, including throttling/boosting performance when certain feature or app are ON, but thats a whole another story. Sorry for such a long read.
@@primonda56 Thank you for elaborating this stuff. Was really confused about the difference between functionality of vram and actual ram.
@@oldtunes817 Well for starter, both VRAM and RAM are the same thing. Fundamentally built and operate in same manners, especially in the same generation with a bit of 'tweaks' here and there to suit each of their purposes.
RAM is Random Access Memory, used for caching all the data for the processor after fetching it from sources such as storage, networking or external drives. Also used to cache processed data to be used later if applicable.
Think of source as a barn for your unlimited kitchenware and RAM is your kitchen cabinet to store your frequently used knife and spoon. You will find the item you needed much faster in the cabinet instead of the barn. That is the purpose of RAM. To speed up the process of finding the data the processor need for the whole system.
Next, VRAM stand for 'Video Random Access Memory'. The 'video' part make it obvious for what its used for. It is usually a dedicated IC module built into the graphic card. Note that on a system with "integrated graphic" such Intel's and smartphone SoC, VRAM are usually absent and instead rely on system's RAM with their pre-allocated space. Some can be extend, some have dedicated VRAM as well, but most dont.
It main purpose is to cache any data that is in use in the graphic subsystem pipelines to accelerate graphical processing task. What make it 'special' is they usually have higher bandwidth/bus than standard RAM used in the main computer system. This is to ensure minimal bottleneck-condition and race condition with the system's RAM because GPU access a lot more data in parallel than the CPU. This have an advantage of reducing system's RAM bandwidth usage and offload most of the graphic's data fetching to the GPU and thus increasing overall performance.
Hope this'll help.
Yep, it does help a lot. I'm a Computer Science undergrand.
@@primonda56 Thank you for setting the record straight. Your breakdown helped enable me to make an informed choice.
You make a great point I didn't even think about flash cycles I'm definitely turning mine off
Thanks for the info. Question, what kinda case is that on your phone?
Yes you have the Ultra with a lot of ram already. But many people have lower A series with 4 or 6 gigs of ram. What will they do?
A series does have ram plus feature, on s series
Yeah well ram plus is only useful for phones that have 2,4 and 6 gb of ram after 8 gb of ram it becomes useless
@@double07091a15 does have ram plus
Just got a S10e coming from a A20 and the performance upgrade is amazing. My model has 6gb ram I guess is good considering that I had half that a few weeks ago. I remember seeing your video and videos like this a couple months back so as soon I got this I tried turning it off but I can't there's no off switch only a 2gb, 4gb, and 6gb option. 4gb was enabled by default so should I just let it be or are there other ways to turn it off
Set it to the lowest, swap will always be at 3GB I have it off and I have 3GB swap on A54
@@RKing-dy1uv I couldn't tell I've had mine on 4gb 6gb now its on 2gb and I dont see a difference. Maybe if I were to test it there would but it would be slight difference, not in performance but in how long background apps stay open
If I had 12 Gig, I would do the same thing but most of us do not.
big-big Thumbs-Up.
Being a data-technician, and having tried a Qnap-NAS that ruined 2 SSD's for me in 2018 (before I searched into that lifespan-issues of these was the problem) - then I take this just as (or even more) seriously!
And, I am actually shocked, that Samsung turns this ON, by default.
I didn't have the imagination to think, when buying my S21, that it was using "storage as a RAM-extension".
But, is was - so, I just went in, at turned if off, without any hesitation!
What a serious bummer, to the disadvantage of the customer, and advantage of the companies (that will be able to sell many more mobilephones / tablets, in the coming years (when the current do fail).
History:
With mobiles & Tablets, I stumbled upon this, while searching for a cheap-n-simple wall-tablet (for use as a smart-home wall-panel)... and, then sae the Chinese brands at Amazon advertizing with their unrealistic high RAM-amounts, and for instance 12GB (6+6 GB) RAM.
I then thought, that it only was the usual non-environmental chinese "buy-and-throw-out" standard!
But, then a seller of a second-hand samsung-tablet lead me to this, with Samsung!
All-in-All:
Thanks for letting people in, on this.
And, thanks for clarifying, what is on stake - besides the usual focus on speed/responsiveness!
And, I should Add:
That just after 2-3 months, the 2 SSD's in the Qnap-NAS, went All-Dead!
So - it is not only "a decrease in SSD/Flash-performance" that is the consequence - it is a dead mobile unit!
..
Actually, it is horrific, IF the Flash-Storage dies, as my SSD's did! - because it will wadte a lot of mobile-units.
It actually looks like, that nearly if not all phones/tablets sold ?since 2021? is with RAM-extension enabled by default - and since only appr. 1% will go in and actively disable this "time-bomb", then we have a potentially 99% mobile-units with a substantial decreased life-span!...
I wonder, if all/which brands, that are using this "I don't have words for this consumer-scam"?
windows does it by default, macOS and linux also have a page file. ive got 16 gigs of ram in my PC and still have vram/pagefile. pretty sure the computer/phone can use it to preload what it will need from storage. like it can load to storage cache.
@RKing-dy1uv it's called saving your battery. You don't want this stuff running on ram. Ram requires electricity, storage doesn't.
On my xcover pro, it would crash and restart on samsung internet, amazon, ebay, etc. Thinking it was a webview problem, installed webview canary instead... still happening. After some research, discovered that my RAM plus was set to 4gb. (Xcover pro has 4gb physical RAM). So I was using 4gb physical and 4gb virtual RAM... Not good. Switched off RAM Plus and haven't had any crashes since.
I have a samsung galaxy S10 and it doesn't have the option to turn off ram plus, so if there is a way to do this could you please enlighten me ,thank you. Keep up with the fantastic videos they are a must watch for me.
The ram plus is only available on one ui 5 and above I think. Try updating your phone os
@@SongShiyuit was available before. The problem here is that the s10 doesn't let you turning it off, unlike on modern devices.
Thanks bro it's been 24Hours now and i can definitely tell my phone feels smoother
🙏
Awesome. Glad to hear it. Physical RAM is much faster than VRAM.
There has been extensive testing about this. Keeping up on or off seems to have no affect what so ever.
No effect what so ever for people who buy new phones perhaps every other year or so, but it is over time detrimental to phones in several ways.
Why do you think that Samsung has set this 'on' by default instead of 'off'?
The faster the phone breaks down/require repairs/goes caput, who benefits the most?
@@Ch.G.7Samsung, yeah, but almost all smartphone brand use extended ram now.
@@Ch.G.7the default swap size is 3 GB, ram plus is only changing swap size
I have a S22 Ultra 128GB phone, and I'm glad that I turned that off since the One UI 5.0. Before that update, there was no way to turn it off and I can only use the minimum of 2GB.
For my reason why I turned off RAM Plus because I need to save more storage due to mine is a 128GB variant. The lack of microSD expansion didn't help.
I have the same phone but i feel phone is faster with 8gb ram plus...should i turn it off ?.. i use my storage upto 70 to 80 gb max never more than that..
@@RamandeepSingh-ll8kk I think maybe you should if you want your storage's life span live longer.
@@Isaac-gh5ku yeah i did turned it off yesterday after some research and now when i did some tests after 12 hrs found the speed is almost same just about 1 or 2 sec slower so thanks mate😁
You only need this if your ram is already maxed out constantly. If your ram is not maxed out you don't need this.
Ah, I'll turn mine off then
I set it at lowest (2GB)
Turning it off makes my Galaxy M34 heat up a bit more, I don't know why
At first I thought it made sense to turn it up to 6gb on my s21 fe. It made the performance significantly worse.
I'm sorry but can u define Worse? It started lagging or shutting down or what?
@@foreignerJas_Gaming for me i have a midrange samsung phone if ur wondering its the m14 5g when i had ram plus enabled for a week it didnt slow down but my phone started acting sluggish and like exiting a app took like 3 seconds i was searching for weeks then in the settings i noticed ram plus comes on by default i disabled it and immediately noticed performance improvements if ur wondering btw my phone has 6gigs of ram like without ram plus it comes with 6gigs of ram
@@theblockyman7650I have a galaxy s23 ultra 8gb of ram, does it get slower if i turn ram plus off?
@@dlovansl2 no honestly it wont impact your peformance at all cuz u hsve a flagship but i will recommend to yurn it off as it can cause wear nd tear on ur flash drive i have tutned mine off too
I am using note 8 then decided to download this app called swap and I was suprised about the sudden changes in speed of my phone especially in gaming and fb. But the bad side is the battery life.
I have a question please.. Is the 8 gb ram in s23 plus enough in the future because games will require more than that i believe??
Get the 12gb for 150 more
I don't think so, but here's why I think that it doesn't mean you should get another model with higher RAM. I play wuthering waves on an A34 5G with 8 gb ram and I've had alot of stuttering and lag after a recent update that added a new area, due to insufficient RAM, and no, it had nothing to do with the chipset. Had to turn on RAM plus to slightly increase my RAM and the game stopped stuttering and started running smoothly. Other games run fine without RAM plus and so far only wuthering waves was the only game that needed me to slightly increase my RAM. You can easily add RAM using RAM plus if your game needs more than what your device has. Though, make sure to always set the amount of virtual RAM to be lower than your current physical RAM, or else your device will start slowing down since your physical RAM is much, much more faster than virtual RAM.
@@Unknown-ov5jn thank you for this. I'm looking forward to getting the Samsung A15 5g with 8gb of RAM. i would probably set the RAM plus to 4gb.
I put that battery levels widget on my home screen and anytime I take my s pen out, nothing happens. It doesn't show a battery level for it and my RAM Plus is off.
I'm of the same opinion since when I unplug the RAM Plus, the battery widget only shows the battery level. Even when I reconnected it, the s pen level disappeared. Why can't I see the other levels?
but i can see my s pen level even after turning it off .. is it because of the ONE UI 6.1 ? .. i dono if i should really turn it off or no
But VRAM should only kick in when phisical RAM is full right? In the case of 12GB models, that is not getting anywear near full in regular use. So it shouldn't matter if it's on or off.
It is entirely up to the user. My preference was shared within the video.
This is what I was thinking. Considering this why should it matter if its on or off if it doesn't kick in until the 12gb is used up???? 🤔
@SamsungInAMinute I apologize, I'm learning to think more theologically and your response rubbed me the wrong way. So, it's about to sound a bit like a college debate here, lol.
It's not up to the user whether it makes a difference or not. The question is: does it have any effect on performance if it isn't actively being used? It seems to be a placebo effect to claim a difference in performance; it's unlikely to have any performance effects just simply having the switch toggled on if it never gets used. This is unless it's sending memory to the storage even before reaching the physical RAM threshold, which we have no evidence of, thus rendering this entire video nothing but a baseless claim. Assuming that's not the case, if someone is tapping into that vram enough for flash cycles to be a problem, then perhaps they need to carry a desktop instead of a phone. A proper response would have been that you have no way of actually knowing this without extensive testing and/or jerry-rigging it to a computer and deciphering the code (or asking samsung themselves how they've programmed it to activate). Your response seems a bit cowardly, deliberately rudely dismissive and doesn't exactly exude the kind of confidence we're looking for in a guy giving us tech advice. This response seemed a bit like affirmative care- allowing the belief that reality is something that we construct. There is an objective answer to this, and you would look better admitting that you don't know what it is, than dismissing the idea altogether. Of course what is up to the user, however, is to test and see if there's any difference or trade-offs of either decision. Ultimately, it seems likely to have no affect until it's actively being used; and if you're stretching your phone to need that much ram, then you'd be experiencing worse performance issues with it disabled as the device would be trying to perform beyond the allotted threshold. My conclusion, it's best to leave it on just in case because it won't make difference. There's likely no risk of it slowing performance until it is being tapped into (barring the possibility that it's being used even before reaching the phone's physical ram threshold). And any performance losses once it activates are worth the trade, as the other option is to not have the extra ram at all, thus significantly slowing performance.
Is there actual proof that it's using the virtual RAM even when the real RAM is not full yet? That doesn't make sense... Cuz why would it use the slower RAM plus when the faster real RAM is not even full yet?
@saruman4004 that's what we are saying. It's very very likely not using ram plus until the physical ram is full. Thus why it is not slowing the phone down at all unless you've used all the physical ram. Once that happens, you have two options: let it stop running more processes because you've reached max ram, or use the slower ram plus for some of the processes. So, you can either have the phone not perform new actions at all or be slower at performing those actions with ram plus on. Again, this is only once you've reached max physical ram. Thus rendering this video and other videos completely irrelevant.
I have a Galaxy a32 4g and mine is on and set at 4gb RAM. Should I disable it?
My storage is 128gb.
I turned it off and the ads are not loading 😂😂😂 cool feature and speed also improved ❤❤❤
Saving battery is not my priority.
"I would rather" seems this is some uneducated video heavily based on opinion attempting to present falsehoods as fact. Ram plus only accesses the storage once physical ram is all used up, not "constantly" being accessed, so your "I would rather" is moot.
The way this works - normally, once you run out of ram, the oldest running apps are freed from memory. Ram plus simply copies the current memory state of the app into a temporary storage.
When the app is next accessed, instead of having the start the app again and navigate back to where you were, it will instead start the app using the memory state saved in the temporary folder. This all happens insanely quick due to ufs storage speeds, almost as fast as Ram (I wonder why its called virtual ram?)
As a professional enterprise expert software engineer, I recommend that you in fact, leave Ram Plus ON and set the memory to the highest capacity possible!
I have the s24 Ultra after watching this video I turned it off and my phone started to lag and you're absolutely right with your assessment you should leave it on and by the way when you first get the phone Ram plus is on
@@DavidPerez-q2r
S24 Ultra should never be lagging regardless of ram plus setting. If your current-gen flagship is having performance issues, you might have bigger problems like a product defect or computer virus
I have the z fold 5 256gb 12gb ram I want more power for multitasking and gaming is the best option to turn of to get best benefits of 12gb ram. for me i switch every year to newest fold.
What is your opinion
did you get the 6?
Great video thank you. I turn mine off and I'm glad I did. I want to use physical RAM. This is actually an old Apple trick.
Going to turn mine off. To see if it makes a difference. I have s20 ultra 512gb with 16gb of physical RAM
I have a question what's better to charge the S23 Ultra with a normal fast charger or with the super fast charging? And does super fast charging harm your device?
It doesn't charge at the highest charge rate the whole time so you should be fine
Better normal charge for The battery life because is note só warm
Use the normal charge and you should be fine
I have the s23 ultra 8gb ram version. Should I turn my ram plus on?
Ram is way faster than storage. And 8gb is enough. If 8gb is not enough ever, I'll turn It on
Yep! RAM is way faster
"not made for the stuff"
literally came stock from samsung 💀
Rubbish advice.. Turning it off actually slows down performance.. Don't listen to this guy
I reccomend turnin on RAM plus only IF you have below 8gb ram on ur phone. If you got 8gb or above, then turnin it off is fine
Activities like on facetime conference call while reviewing notes or power . Or facetime and gaming.
I dont have an option to turn it off! Is there anything i can do?
Did you found out I got a galaxy s 20 don't know how to turn it off
Me 2 I can't find it
You may need it in 3 years time, they are future proofing it. The 256gb only have 8gb not 12 like the 512gb. Pcs have been using this for donkey years and has not wreaked their computers but the memory its using is still constantly reading and writing also
Then I'll flip it on in the future.
My 256 has 12
Wtf you talking about
My s23 ultra is 256gb and 12gb ram
Donkey years?
@abundantharmony it's to future proof your phone. 8gb is enough now, but in 3 years time it won't be. Also pc's use this type of caching for years and not effecting life of the flash memory, and nowadays pcs are using SSD
Has thos feature been around since the S23 launch? I never even noticed it. And yeah mine is on by default. Wish i knew earlier. I think they way it should work is use only the physical ram and only seap when necessary to reduce the storage degradation if that makes sense. From the way you explained it, sounds like it's always on even if you still have ram.
I have the S23+ with 8GB of ram. Can someone tell me why more than half of this ram is already used up without even opening any aps?? I thought 8GB of ram would be great, but then realize after buying this phone that there is really only 3.4 GB of ram available for apps. This is stupid to me.
Ram is to be used, the phone keep the apps in the ram, 3,4 available is too much
@@matheusstanderski5647 Trust me... Sometimes, it isn't. For a power user? It isn't.
Lol, am I the only one here wants to push my phone to it's limit? Haha, before I even watch this video I even put my ram plus to 8gb from 4gb default. In 2-3 years I'm going to upgrade my phone anyway so I really don't care about wear and tear of the storage and anything inside. ( I didn't notice any sluggishness or anything like that at all so I'm keeping it, - s23u)
Yeah, you're right bro! 😁
my galaxy s21 ultra is 512 GB, 16 GB ram beast, and i still have 4 Gb of ram plus so should i turn it off.
U should bruh
That's too much😂😂😂
Data is written in and out of these devices everyday..nothing last forever..lets use these gadgets at their fullest 🤝🏿🙂..its has good and bad effects.such is life
many people also want to prolong the lifespan of their devices as much as possible too, since it is an expensive investment. If there are small things that can be done to increase the life of the product, it is better economically and ecologically.
An example of this is that I turned off fast charging and limited the charging level to 85%. Yes, I can use my device to the "fullest", however I find that it is not necessary since the phone already charges fast enough and lasts long enough on battery power for me. Therefore, I want to prolong the lifespan of battery as long as possible. Yes, the battery will inevitably deteriorate because like you said, "nothing lasts forever" - but I want it to last long enough until Samsung stops supporting the device (5 years of security updates).
Potpuno netacno imam s10 ukljucio ram plus na 8gb telefon leti kako radi a pre toga je usporavao ne slusajte ovog tima
Good video, however In every instance Vram has always been Video Ram on GPUs so whenever I or any other technician I know hears Vram we think of that and not Virtual Ram, in fact in dealing with phones I do not think I have ever heard of "Vram" mentioned in that case. Virtual RAM, dynamic RAM expansion, extended RAM are all the same and different phone companies refer to it differently,. Where Vram is standardized for Video Ram on a GPU. Just my 2 cents ;)
Does jumping from 4gb to 8gb ram plus harm battery life?
I have the s10 8gb ram version
I turned my ram plus to 8gb and noticed a difference, it played codm better and over all a bit smoother
So i like it this way
@G4n3ro feel smoother? That isn't the case. Turning on to 8gb ram plus is worse bro for a gamer like you. It doesn't feel smooth but it actually making your game process more faster it makin your game fast forward because of the process of vram. It cause lag spikes more often and your phone heats faster. I recommend you should turn it of and make your grphics set to low in codm
RAM Plus is a hoax. It literally slowed down my A53, instead of making it faster.
I also had a Samsung A05 4GB 64GB. .Dayum that thing seriously needed the RAM extension feature you couldn't even type 1 letter without lag
the only thing that differs in real life performance is the speed to get out of standby when you leave the phone with an open app.with swap it takes half second where without it is immediate
I have an Oppo phone, with this option known as "Ram Expansion". I have it set to 4gb but I suppose I should turn it off too despite different to Samsung's Ram Plus??
They're the same exact thing only named differently
oh btw, flash memory cells live up to 20 mby 50 yrs on a cellphone and ja, Samsung Ram Plus does nothing more than to expand or shrinking the size of the page file which is always on and only can be deactivated by kernel helpers on a rooted device. if you turn SRPlus off then the pagefile just uses its original size but stays active. it does literally nothing in puncto performance and is just a marketing thing. Chinese phones had it so Samsung has to had it too. it's just silly.
My max storage is 128gb and is already filled with 110gb...so should i still off my RAM PLUS?
Same
Should i completely turn it off or put it on lowest setting
will 8gb ram + 4gb ram plus preform as fast as a phone with 12gb ram?
No. Ram plus is using device internal memory that slower than ram.
never
Mine is running like hell and heats up really fast in games when is turned off but when i have it on it works so smooth and heats so slow and works perfectly
I have the Samsung A54 5G. I think it has 5Gb. Should I use Ram Plus? Why would Samsung put it in the phone if it hurts the phone?
ram plus off option not showing samsung a31 only showing 2gb 4gb 6gb which I choose please tell my phone is 128 gb please tell which is choose ?
Iv turned it off too. Its of no use when you already have 12gb of ram built in. I also found my battery life got even better with it switched off
Turn it on or off for a 20 FE 5g? 6 gigs of ram I have.
How to find this case?
cool thanks, was trying to figure out why my RAM shrunk to 8 from 12.
what about battery life? will it improve
Negligible
I don’t have the option to turn off Ram Plus on my Galaxy Tab S6
I felt a bit of smoothness after switching it off. Am using S22 FE. RAM Plus kinda made my phone laggy. Now its kinda got smooth.
Is this a placebo effect?
You would've already upgraded to a new phone before RAM Plus takes a toll on your S23's internal flash storage.
why you need ram plus i have 4gb unusef
After turning off my ram plus, my available physical ram & battery life increased.
Anyone else only given option to select the amount of memory and not actually able to turn off?
Maybe if you have older device, this may be the case. Don't know why
@@SamsungInAMinute Makes sense. Am using s10+ on oneui 4.1
yeah we can only turn off this on one ui 5 devices
i am using a note 10 plus one ui 4.1
after seeing this video I just changed my ram plus from 6gb to 2gb bcoz thats the maximum I can do likely to be turned off
How to disable Camera shutter sound in Samsung F04 one UI5.1 Android 13
On the S10 Plus I'm having difficult time trying to disable it because it's it's not on that screen
Ram plus enaible good or bad please comment
The galaxy s10 doesn't let me turn it off
I have the Xiaomi Note 13 Pro Plus 512GB 12GB. .I turned on the RAM extension to 12GB (the highest it can go) and I think it literally said I had like 434.somethingGB of 512GB storage left😲 I was like WHAAATTT?
What about Samsung A55 8GB of RAM?
even without v-ram or it is turned off..the phone constantly reading in-and out your internal storage coz it is where your apps installed,
Soo I just bought Samsung galaxy a53 and it gives me option to use 2gb of Ram to 8gb of Ram what should I use for the best performance and it to be faster ?
Just use ram plus on dude and set to 8gb ram plus why?because ram plus only recommend for mid range device only not for flagship like s series also ram plus does not make drain battery and heating your phone
Idk why yall complaining.. I got 4gb ram max. I need an upgrade.
I have the 8gb version with or without plus the ram management really sucks.. when I switch between two app YT and setting is just closes YT all together. I can not figure out why. It restarts almost every app I have opened.. do you guys have any idea?
Go to settings >Device care>Background usage limits
Disable ( put unused apps to sleep)
That should fix it, but it will consume more battery
I remember you saying in another video you were going to use 6 gigs for ram plus
Hello mate! 👋 What about gaming?
Some thinks that Virtual RAM helps with gaming but it doesn't. It uses physical RAM for that.
@@SamsungInAMinute Thank you mate!) I already turned off ram+ , and it shows me 7.1gb space.. with ram+8 used to be 5.5 gb in best scenario.. so i think the gaming would definitely tell how it is. Thank you! 😊
Checked gaming 👌 Perfect!
Your arguments about sleed of RAM and internal storage memory is ridiculous and superficial. Leave this feature ON. It is better fir your device to keep it ON. Do not listen non-legit amateur sofa RUclips bloggers.
Is 8gb of internal ram enough for dex on the 23u
Actual RAM is way, way faster than your storage, if you don't need the extra ram but have it enabled the phone might use storage regardless and this might slow down things quite a bit.
100%
Why become slow If enable but not been used?
@@Russsssss because it might be used even when RAM is not full, for example storing data that is not of high priority or when the RAM is almost full. I'm not exactly sure what procedure they are following for this, but as a matter of fact, RAM Plus slows. From there I can only speculate.
@@Lanxxe why would they enable this by default? It really seems like Samsung are shooting themselves in the foot if they are purposefully shipping phones with settings that are making them slower. Like, they are trying to intentionally fail all the speed test comparisons that RUclipsr's do? It is really strange
@@PrabhablyAGoodRUclipsr don't really know, but if I had to guess then I would say it is because its more energy efficient (don't quote me on that tho) because storage is as energy efficient as RAM is fast, so using some of the former would lead to battery life improvements I think, which is what the average consumer notices first. People who buy low and midrangers (where the slowdown is most noticeable) don't care about performance as much as battery life, while on flagships, the difference is fairly minimal from what I've seen.
I turn off ram plus when i start watching video on youtube or internet the video keeps buffering when i turn on ram plus i dont have this problem 🤔
Oh wow. Yea.
@Samsung In A Minute i dont know why this is happening but i never tried to turn it off on any of my Samsung phone but now in my Samsung s23 ultra