Collecting Addicts Ep 17: Food prices at Miami GP, Depreciation, Regular Car-Key Adoration & More!
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- Опубликовано: 21 май 2024
- Whether gawking at the Miami F1 food prices, recounting their most depreciating car ownership, lusting over simpler times for car-keys, or recalling their favourite quotations from bygone motoring legends, our bright-eyed, bushy-tailed and youthful panel deliver their fresh take on everything car related in the latest episode of the Collecting Addicts podcast!
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Chapters:
(00:00) - Intro
(00:42) - F1 in Miami
(25:58) - Worst depreciation
(45:10) - Normal car keys are better
(59:03) - Favourite motoring quotation
(1:05:10) - Fast Fords & Friends
(1:06:34) - Two-car garage
(1:16:20) - Driving Tunes
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Chris Cooper needs his own story time podcast
This has me in a hoot every Friday, I'm starting to forget what life was like on a Friday before I knew this excellent group of gentlement existed together on this podcast
Morning Gents F1 has become an elite viewers sport with gate prices that require a mortgage to see live, I will be attending Brands Hatch this weekend to see GT world series, £35 gate price and top line drivers and cars that you can relate to..
Damn I wish I was in UK this weekend. Thanks for the heads-up though, seems like a really good deal
I'll be at Brands Hatch this weekend too! Much more entertaining and way more sense of racing passion at the GT world series!
I shall be racing there
British Touring Car Championship is much closer racing and better to watch than F1 these days.
This and Smith and Sniff...THE best podcasts by a MILE.
i like the intercooler too
Totally agree
Neil is sooo...British. In all of the beautiful ways. I like it very much.
The best motor(cycl)ing quotation comes from Performance Bikes magazine back around 1993, "Licking the sticky bit of the performance envelope". I forget which writer said it, either Rupert Paul or Mark Forsyth, but it told you everything about their approach to riding - go fast, take chances.
90's family estate car, how can you ignore either an 850T5-R or 850R? Iconic affordable 90's fast estate.
The Keyless to me is the same issue as the electronic handbrake a solution to a problem that it didn't exist.
Great job on this whole collecting cars ecosystem. These podcasts are great viewing and listening.
Such a good podcast, it finishes off my Friday, accompanied quite nicely with a couple of fingers of a single malt.
I am running out of superlatives for this Podcast..... that's a good thing by the way 😎
I can no longer imagine my Friday morning without this to look forward to.
I’m 35 years old. Am I younger / older generation? I don’t know.. but I’ve watched every race since 1994. - I feel I’m being put off the sport. It’s being Americanised, turned into a circus, and becoming less of a sport.
Collecting Addicts has to be in the top 3 podcast/RUclips series
From an exceptional podcast series, this episode felt particularly exceptional. Banter on point, seamless segues, and top-drawer anecdotes and stories. Thank you so much for this.
Best episode as usual. M5 touring with double sunroof made my day 👍🏻. Keep it up guys 💪🏻 weekends got better .
This is the best 1hour plus every week. Keep going chaps!!
This show just gets better and better. The tangents, the banter, the oxygen used to talk about the feeling of keys. Amazing stuff
I think it would be pretty neat if the guys had a little segment on WRC throughout the year.
Much more exciting than F1 in my opinion
Absolutely brilliant again! Every topic is so relatable!! Fridays can’t come round quick enough!!
Love these podcasts, keep them coming!!!
I've followed F1 since the Senna era, watching every race possible since then. Until now. I've not watched a single race this season. F1 has never been (truly) a sport, and there have always been "shenanigans" happening in the background of F1 or in the races themselves....
When Bernie Ecclestone left F1 it was supposed to be the beginning of the new "PC" era.... Yet to see the powers that be in F1 allowing the rules of the race to be changed in the last lap of a race with a race win (and championship) riding on it did beggar belief (and I'm not a huge Hamilton fan).
Formula One and those that run it have got so much wrong recently and are doing more to kill F1 than the environmental lobby ever could...
I completely agree with this statement and haven't really cared ever since...
Politically Correct would be firing the pit girls (against their will according to any interview I've ever seen with the UK ones)... the rules thing is simple corruption.
The same people who decided that the championship should be decided in the last lap of the last race were the same people that didn't give a Mercedes driver a DSQ for a little Silverstone incident. Senna was disqualified for less.
@John from Accounting good seem like a bell end at least your have that in common with Max
Yanks in charge, usless people. Bernie knew how to make money and improve the sport not destroy it.
Great tune recommendations this week guys!
Absolutely brilliant. Definitely my cup of tea this podcast 👌
Another great one lads 👍
Absolutely superb. Please keep doing these 👍🏼👍🏼
Good points on F1 and Miami. Had I worked for the Liberty team I think there would be a significant debrief Monday morning. 1) Does Liberty know its target audience? 2)Has liberty it got the right people in the right place within that team?
Another great podcast guys.
My absolute favourite weekly car media fix.
I can’t wait for the next episode.
Watched every episode of Collecting Addicts.. and i am an ADDICT!! (of the Cast an cars).. just for Neil Clifford.. Max is the new King..😂😂😂😂✌
I loved all the 16 before, but this one was especially fun.
Lovett you legend. Great song!
SAAB started saving our knees in the 1970s, still my favourite key and ignition location in the SAAB 900 Classic.
Yeah with the iconic reverse lock
Great podcast guys - essential listening (and viewing!!)
Awesome as always 💪
Great podcast. A suggestion to chat about 1) favourite car badges; 2) the evolution of car brand logos; 3) Chinese car brands coming to the UK
Going on from keys - the location of the lock (on older cars) where you slot them in externally: favourite car door handle designs
On the subject of car keys, back in the mid-2000s I modified my Mk1 Ford Focus as an 18-year-old. Not bodykits, more OEM+. One of the mods I did was to upgrade the key from the standard Ford horrible key to a Jaguar flip key. It looked so much better. It worked perfectly fine, alarm, immobiliser, locking, unlocking, but the switch headlights on didn’t work on the Jag key. It was easy to do aswell as the metal key blade was the same so you just cut a new Ford key, cut off the plastic holder and put it in the Jag key.
The correct answer to this week's two-car garage conundrum is a Lotus Esprit Sport 300 (£64995), a Volvo 850 T-5R (£28840) and spend the change fixing the inevitable problems with the Lotus.
For a song, I recommend Turbo by Cory Wong with Dirty Loops. Good exuberant fun.
Much love to you all!! On the keyless car topic, earlier keys were as you describe and vulnerable. New keys have unique coding per use where the key has an identifier, the car responds with a one time passcode, the key responds with another new one time passcode and the car starts. This is called rolling code. I wouldnt accept buying a new car without keyless operation. Its just in keeping with the times, unfortunately.
Once again Thank you.
this is easily the best f1 podcast 👏
out of the park again, guys! great chat!
I forgot about the Jackie Stewart incident. Yes they looked so bloody bush league and American unbelievable bush league. I’ve been an F1 fan for 50 years and that was disgusting. Thank you for reminding me.
Just listened to last week's and this week's back to back, throughly entertaining always. Any chance of the music playing being put on Tidal as well please?
Brilliant!
Love it.
Its good to see 'Velvet Sky of Dreams' the theme track to 'Shakedown' mentioned here. I had it in one of my past comments, and wondered if others thought it was great as well? Now I know.
What is disappointing is the people moaning about RB dominating now where we're they all when Mercedes and Hamilton dominating for 8 years and absolute boredom?
The guy who owns & promotes Miami gp also owns Miami dolphins. He said last year he can make more profit from the GP weekend than a WHOLE season in the NFL.
It's all abt the Dollar.
Top Gear better not get rid of Chris!
Brilliant again
Thank you ! Thank you thank you thank you for this podcast! Keep 'em coming!
My first car was a metallic blue 1.3 Mk1 fiesta ghia, number plate was BOY 222Y - I earned £90 a week paid in cash and I save for months to buy pepper pot wheels and I put chrome bumpers on it…smashed the side of it after being pushed out of a field after an illegal rave…best days of my life…
Curmudgeons! I’ve not always been a Max fan, but the results speak for themselves.
2 cars for my garage unipwer gt and ford granada chassuer estate. great pod cast.
Nobody thought about the Volvo 850 T-5R estate?
There are some great quotes - sorry: quotations - from Walter Röhrl, such as "You can't treat a car like a human being. A car requires love."
Love your choice Mr. Clifford. I can bet that's the only thing we have in common. The love for the E34 M5 Touring. My preference is the elekta model. 3.8 6 speed facelift. 350 horsepower.They made about 100. It has inconel headers, stock. I don't think there's been a better bmw. Because a bmw is about combining the fun of the 911 with the luxury of a Mercedes E class wagon. This is the closest they came to it, imo. Side note, they made a prototype with a mclaren f1 v12. I would sell a kidney and half a liver for that.
Once again, I love Neil
That doobie brothers song is an absolute classic , going to bang it on now actually!
Worst depreciation for me? Bought a 9 month old, 9k miles M6 V10, cost new £83k, I paid £63k. Kept it 9 months and added another 9k miles and sold it for £43k. It was a brownish/bronze colour which didn't help....
Great podcast as always, One of you please mention song Hands of time from movie collateral by Groove Armada, great movie, great soundtrack. great for driving.
I've got a Mk3 Clio RS200 with contactless.Bizarrely for a French car - the contactless keys stopped working so I've had to buy two new keys.
Loving hungover Ed by the way :P
"Imola...bit of rain thrown in"
RIP 😢all who lost their lives
The Miami GP is a humiliation for the sport. It reduces the emphasis on the race, and the focus is on the commercial aspect. There is no future if they keep it as a cash grab event. The race itself was really exciting. Lots of on-track action, lots of overtakes. Literally everything else that wasn't the race was an enormous turn-off.
Espace V6. Ace. Took one for a test drive, can't believe I didn't buy it. Wish Renault would revert back to that innovative era.
Finally a podcast / RUclips channel where the contributors are not utterly annoying cretins and the subject matter is utter shite (that's a good thing by the way to quote @gordonsimpson3235 lower down the comments). Combine this, Harrys Garage and Tyrrells Classic workshop and I'm in nerdy geek car detail heaven - just loving it! I'm driving to Dusseldorf tomorrow to pick up a part for my car (as it's much more interesting than having it sent) and I have the CA playlist loaded and ready to go. Cheers guys - keep it up!! Best sounding car ever sometime?
Neil, what colour Grenadier have you ordered?
I've spent too long on the configurator pondering.
We had the same problem when Seb was dominating with Red Bull before the hybrid era.
Didn't Mr Harris at one point have the ultimate "keyless" system in the green 911? Just a switch on the dash, no key required!
Miami is a celeb social extravaganza rather than a sporting event
Love the F1 chat as always. All I want from F1 is to tune in and see different drivers and teams with a genuine chance of winning. It's been a foregone conclusion for too long. A single team, or top two teams take over. There was time between the end of the sixties and the mid eighties where only a handful of teams won the constructor's championship back to back. The last thirteen years has been red bull, mercedes and red bull again including a time when only three manufacturers won races for about 8 years! Sort it out F1 I want a competition! Rant over.
I think a live one of these would be excellent fun. We could have some side bets on who we'd think would say something libelous first (my money is on Chris H)
As an American, a motorsport head (GT3 primarily), F1 fan, long time since mid 90's (though I left the sport due to it being boring many years ago), I find the stupid antics and "razzmatazz" to be completely pointless and cringeworthy as well. I do not understand why we have to stoop to that level for "fanfare." It does not make sense. The race/GP should be the spectacle. Regardless, point being, I think most American F1 fans would happen to agree with us as well. Love the podcast, I tune in every week. Keep it coming!
NSX and 850T5R. Owned 355 and NSX, owned RS2, E34m5... T5R is miles ahead lighter, more reliable and roomier. NSX is a cut above a 355 ! Cool podcast !
18:05 The drivers entrance was sooo cringe. If you haven‘t seen it, please do. Its on the F1 channel. It shows everything thats wrong obout F1.
Fire up the John Deere. The perfect lawn cutting podcast.
Speaking of unfair advantages, I was with Al Holbert who was the Porsche 962 guy here in the states. And I asked him about whether or not they incorporated updates from Germany in cars that were in the process of being built. He winked and said, “sometimes we do and sometimes we don’t.” No wonder the factory teams routinely beat the customer cars.
TIL: 330 - 205 = 115.. No wonder Neil makes some bad deals ;)
The tracks are crap. We need to be back around proper race tracks like they had to do during covid. We need smaller cars, lighter cars, V10's, re-fuelling, less reliance on tires. Sprint races can jog on. I don't mind the budget cap but allow mid-season testing and grant teams who are behind more testing.
WEC HyperCar series is the one to watch this year, will make Le Mans a good watch too. F1 just seems to have lost its way, no competition either with the strict cost caps stopping teams from catching the leaders over the season.
Closest qualifying ever. Plenty of battles except for positions 1 and 2. F1 has only lost it for a casual viewer
Also, 2014-2019, 2005, 1988, 1992... how quickly things are forgotten, huh?
Just in relation to you chat about declining F1 viewing figures... Speaking personally I basically stopped watching F1 because I just felt the sport had become too sterile, safe, predictable and lacked 'spice' of any kind to keep my attention. It suddenly went down my list of entertainment priorities on a weekend.
I understand drivers wanted the 'halo', huge run-off areas around circuits etc but that was the first nail in the coffin, as most of our deep admiration for legendary drivers was their incredible skill, focus and bravery in the face of immediate danger. It was thrilling, sweaty-palmed viewing. Drivers suddenly wanted all the money, fame and admiration without the same risks (and viewer excitement) which earned their predecessors those things (in my opinion!).
There's a reason pro combat athletes (boxing, MMA) don't wear head-guards... Because it would kill the sport overnight if you removed the danger and in-turn watching an elite professional do something you wouldn't DARE to do, putting it all on the line. The danger IS the sport for a lot of fans.
We all know the engine regulations killed a big part of the heart and soul of the sport, which is logical... An engine is the soul of a car, and the cars are the soul of the sport... So I really hope synthetic fuels can facilitate a return to more exciting power trains.
If Liberty have to rely on cheap gimmicks to attract kids to the sport, it's because the core product just isn't very exciting. Cars just whizzing around a very safe and visually uninspiring track, making whooshing fart sounds, driven by quite bland clean-cut young men who look like they were all grown in the same test tube... Will not keep the attention span of the TikTok generation in 2023.
F1 wants to have its cake and eat it... They have allowed the core, fundamental features and values of the sport to be watered down and sanitised if not removed entirely, while also expecting fans to retain the same level of interest and give them money for a less engaging product in a world where kids have no attention span.
The drivers have a part to play as well; Let's have a little theatre, controversy, drama and occasional sh*t-talking. This is the sports entertainment industry. Entertain.
Apologies, I got carried away. I'll stop typing now!
Lol.. Good take
As someone who's 18, I can attest to this. I can barely watch like 1 hour of an f1 race. Last year, I spent 6 months worth of my pocket money to buy a wec subscription and watched the entire 24 hours of lemans. Even if it wasn't as exciting as this year will be, the back classes last year were incredibly competitive. And lemans drivers rarely have fame and rarely ask for it. Much more humble and nicer people. As far as I can see, they're more focused on driving the car than discussing who they're dating or what they think about another country's laws. And this year's lemans is sold out. That's some testament. And again, I will be doing a 24 hour marathon with my mates and some kfc.
Regarding keyless start/stop. Sadly there allegedly was an incident a few years ago in the US, where an off-duty police officer was driving a luxury brand car with keyless start/stop and the drive by wire throttle mechanism malfunctioned wide open. The driver called the 911 emergency operator after he had burned up the cars brakes trying to stop the vehicle. There was a 911 audio recording of the verbal exchange that continued until the vehicle crashed at well 120 mph. All of the vehicle occupants were killed in the associated crash. Apparently, when the drive by wire throttle of the vehicle malfunctioned wide open, the driver could not move the gear shift lever out of the drive position and the engine start/stop button was rendered inoperative. It was a haunting audio recording to listen too. I have been meaning to rent a car with keyless start/stop, take it on the highway at wide open throttle and see if I can shift the transmission to neutral while still at wide open throttle or get the engine to shut off when I push the start/stop button. I don’t want to try it with my personal vehicle…..
Another great podcast with 'Friday friends' If we are all so fed up with F1 and how it's going, why are we all still talking about it so much? What are we hoping for ..............
Haha - I’ve sat in Keke Rosbergs black Ferrari (I’m sure it was a 308 spider though - but ages ago, so might be wrong)
Manish at his best !!!
Boston Celtics vs. Philadelphia 76ers was at the same time (330pm EST) I thought. F1 was on ABC, NBA on ESPN.
It was the night before
2010 was one of best years for F1. Strong lineup of drivers and teams. With 8 cars capable of winning races. With 5 fighting for driver's champions before the final race.
Drama, of Vettel vs Webber, team orders drama, close qualifying, even old team mate Michael and Rubens going at it..
With this current floor aero formula, I sincerely hope the regs stay the same, for a while. Other teams will come and go into and out of the sport. Lower performing teams will catch up.
Let them catch up. Every time there's a reg change 'to make the racing more interesting' it does the opposite because only the teams with the money. I.e. Merc and Red Bull who have both gotten away with breaking the budget caps, with see the success.
I've had enough of one car being dominant.
Ferrari in the early 00s, Red bull for 11' 12',13', Merc 14-2020. Now Red Bull again.
What do the panel think of who can challenge for the F1 title in the next 10 years, if like you said there are no current competition for RedBull and Max. Chatting with a friend, we think that Ferrari will continue to do Ferrari things and not mount a serious assault, Aston will run out of steam, and lack the driver depth if the time comes in a couple of years. Alpine have never looked really serious, McLaren are really in a mess and unlikely to be there in the next decade. So that only leaves Mercedes, they are at least a year behind RB so this year and next and most likely 25 they wont challenge over a season, and it may well be a change of regulation in 26 that they may be up there again. Would love to hear your informed thoughts. Thanks so much for the most absorbing listen every week
"I am the new Brown 1" best line ever, haa. One + for keyless is remote start function is a lot easier, otherwise prefer a physical key. Touring M5 and a E36 M3, what an era. Miami GP trying to be a USA Monaco it seems...
£57 depreciation a mile is superb... laughed out loud at that one. Re F1, As others have already said watching F1 is way down my list of priorities on a weekend these days. I stopped watching F1 because I felt alienated by it. The constant meddling of rules, the lack of adherence to the rules (say no more on that), and I just can't get excited by it any more.
On an entirely unrelated note, Manish, I've sent you a DM on Twitter re a film/story project I'd greatly appreciate your thoughts on.
Checo for the win on Sunday!!! Come on!!
A client of mine bought a brand new 2015 RR Vogue. Very High spec. £115k. 4yrs later he part exchanged it for the 2019 Vogue and they gave him £48k PX 😢
Qu: you have to go on a 2,000 round trip road journey. Who would you like as your passenger
Agree very much on this F1 chat in this episode. I'm under 30 so don't know if that counts as young anymore 😅
There are too many races for me, I'm burnt out of F1. I was watching DC and Schumacher in 2002 France and that battle was amazing which I haven't seen since Lewis and max 2021.
For me the races are good standalone but I'm not hooked into the season anymore
Of you have to take the key out it’s not keyless. If you have to get in the car and put the key in a special spot that’s not keyless.
The key creates such a connection with the car, when you spin it and then car comes alive, you know you’re in control. When you press a button it feels like it should drive itself. I’d love a keyless entry with a classic key to put in the ignition, that would be the perfect combination.
Qu: what car have you sold that went on to appreciate substantially.
Qu: what car have you sold which you wished you hadn’t.
Qu: what’s your favourite:
Porsche
Ferrari
Lamborghini
McLaren
Lotus
etc
Why do so many drivers hate smart motorways, there great use 4 lanes and if someone brakes down then the hard shoulder gets blocked off and you go back to 3 lanes, how can that be a bad thing, it’s less traffic
100% lando and ham in a rarri. Signed and done deal by the summer.
@13:13 AGREE. Back to normal tracks. We need to get rid of all these stupid make shift street tracks.
LeClercs crumbled quite frankly, if him and MV were in the same car he wouldn't stand a chance. He's been mistake prone under pressure for a few years now. Lando must loathe that he's signed to McLaren for so long. What a dope at such a young age. He needs to be in Ferrari or Merc, RB won't let him near MV. edit - in fact Lando in the AM next to Alonso would be immense. Shame Stroll has that seat locked out for the foreseeable.