Collecting Addicts Episode 24: Never Made Cars, Marmite Cars & Motorway Gesticulation
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- Опубликовано: 14 июн 2024
- Cars that manufacturers never put into production, Marmite cars: Land Rover, on road courtesy and non-verbal communication, hitchhiking stories, a two car garage for £45,000, driving tunes & more nerdy chat on this week's episode of the Collecting Addicts Podcast!
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(00:00) Intro
(00:32) Never Made Cars
(16:47) Marmite Cars: Land Rover
(35:04) Motor Communication
(52:18) Hitchhiking Stories
(01:01:12) Two Car Garage
(01:19:00) Driving Tunes
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Just lost my father yesterday from cancer at the age of 85 . In memory of his life I’m going for a drive in his 2003 Toyota Celica which he has owned from new . He was a car enthusiast right till the end . I took him out in it 3 days before he passed and he had the biggest smile on his face. Im happy to say it was one of his final memories . Thank you collecting cars , your podcast is getting me through the most difficult day of my life with a smile and a laugh. Best podcast on RUclips. RIP Kenno.
I dip into the comments when I can and just want to say that I am so sorry for your loss. I lost my father in law two weeks ago. The bloke who dangled his legs off the side of his 48 year old Defender. I am so happy to read that your father and you got to take a ride before he passed. There's some learning there for all of us about joy and life. Sincere condolences, Manish
Thoughts are with you and yours mate. What a great memory amongst a tough time. Take care.
RIP
Neil Clifford absolutely nailed it when he called out the mainstream media for their destructive and frankly lazy negativity. Yet another 90 mins of must listen chat to start the weekend. Superb.
Negative sells. So don't buy it. I live in hope
Imagine a Top Gear reboot with these guys. Now, that would be worth watching.
I was thinking about just that this past week. But more specifically, the 2 Chris' and Rory
I had the same thought today
Wow mate , you've nailed it
I know where you’re coming from but the joy of this podcast is the relaxed honest vibe of 5 guys shooting the breeze vs top gear which is forced to be an adrenaline fueled circus. Top gear is a bit like a legendary holiday with mates or the e type jag - it was what it was and trying to recreate it is always going to underwhelm.
The trouble is Top Gear no longer appeals to the likes of us. It would be shuffled to a minor channel. We aren’t the masses we’re niche.
Chris Cooper's 'fast friend' thing has just struck a massive chord with me. A 90-mile quiet evening blast up the A68 behind a stranger's very-well-driven Volvo estate is probably my greatest drive ever. Slow where it mattered, really not slow at all everywhere else. And that waved acknowledgment when we separated.
Now that's a road.
Fellow road user appreciation
Concur 100%. Bought a 2003 Boxter S manual in Newcastle Australia 2 years ago and spent 2 days driving home to Melbourne. Had a great tussle with a Golf GTR between Cooma NSW and the coast road. Geez we both enjoyed it and when he eventually turned North and I South, we took a moment to give each other a smile and a salute of mutual respect.
The brief, but brilliant, relationship between two strangers sharing an A road on a long summer evening.
When each of you show respect to both the road and each other, swapping who leads, celebrating your adversaries overtakes, hearing two engines singing their duet, then either the flash of the headlights or the hazards signalling it's come to an end and the wave of thanks and appreciation as they take their turn-off.
Oh, life's little pleasures.
No better way to round off the working week, than working from home listening to you guys rattle on about cars. 10/10.
There is nothing better!
As a middle aged, self employed procrastinator I used to wake up on a Friday morning full of anxiety and guilt at having wasted another week. Thanks to these podcasts I get up, refresh RUclips until it drops, walk the dog for an hour while listening to it and then feeling inspired go out for a really long drive afterwards. Thanks guys!
Neil, your attitude and outlook on life makes me want to get out of bed in the morning and be a better person. I have embraced the George Best "fuck it" technique to life and thank you for reminding us all that we should just enjoy this shit. I may have been drinking, but i genuinely think this podcast has made me a happier and more positive person. Thank you!
Episode 24 and everyone a highlight of my week While I enjoy every moment this weeks standouts were Neil Clifford spending £47000 to ensure his Maserati Quattroporte Touring didn't break down and wondering why Porsche didn't make a 993 Turbo Cabriolet and Chris Cooper's former girlfriend Facility. Thank you gentleman for making us laugh, nod in agreement, share your anger and bask in your humility and humanity.
Chris cooper being in a Holiday mood makes him even more Hilarious Keep up the great work guys!!!
Pour him another. I
Imagine a dinner party with these guys. A 20 taster menu, they barely have to stop talking to eat, and a sommelier standing next to each of them. Never short of refills. With it or without it. Special magic.
You lot are a constant source of fun for me, really really good to watch and listen.. Mr Clifford has quickly become my man crush, closely followed by the rest of you.
Can't wait for the next one 👍
Had the pleasure of meeting Neil Clifford yesterday, who introduced me to this Podcast. Thanks Neil, very entertaining! Keep it up guys, I’m going to have to work my way through the back catalogue. Thank you all 😎
I’m Greek and now live in Athens but studied and worked in the UK in the 90’s. I carry with me and forever will that special Britishness I experienced in my 20’s. Makes me who I am and forever grateful to the Brits. That special brand of Britishness especially after Brexit and London becoming so soulless is difficult to explain to my kids. The Defender does help but even more so this podcast. You guys represent everything that is great about the Old Albion. Thanks for taking me back to the golden years every month!
I effing love this podcast and NC is just an absolute bloody legend.
This podcast gets better and better. A really enjoyable hour or so. Thank you.
XJ220 with the V12 engine
Holiday Chris Cooper is the best thing to happen to this podcast since its inception 🎉
Great chats, keep em going
Missing from the no “thank you” chat was the lazy pull out: my especially-hot corner-of-hell-reservation is for drivers who first cut you up but then make no effort to get a wriggle on once they’ve planted themselves in your path
Great comment from Neil about the youngsters at the Harry stiles concert🤗
On Quattroporte Wagon: The was a one-off Bellagio Fastback by Touring
I subscribe to the audio podcast, but I'm really glad CC is posted in video format as well. It's just better this way. Thanks for doing it!
Chris Cooper two glasses away from kicking off 😂😂
The quickest hour flew past,however Evoque convertible nearly had me gagging on my chicken pilaf. Great stuff guys 🏁
Gagging? Why?
Thank you - please keep doing this as it has become a highlight of the week to listen to with my petrolhead wife - we love the detail and rabbit holes - keep it up!
Thanks for the company this evening chaps. 🙂👍
Friday night, wife and kids in bed, big glass of beefy red vino and watching these blokes talk absolute geeky niche twaddle and life doesn’t get much better when you hit 50 like me 🤣🤣🤣 Brilliant watch! As I am with Neil Clifford and the bottle of wine, maybe I am being hyperbolic but….it was a good watch and evening 🤗🤗
I had the same 1st world, fee paying prep school problem.
I put the wife (so that i didn't have to drive it) in a bright red & tan 159 SW Ti. In rows of dark xc90's it stood out like when the colour in parts in a black & white film.
I made her drive it for 12 years. Always made me smile and all the kids loved it.
Referring to the first person who speaks as having pole position is one of the most petrolhead things to say, and that is why I will continue to come back to this podcast. You lot are the best!
45:23 the natural step up from the polite little farewell blip of the lights is the brief parting chat (as a biker) at the lights (or maybe a fuel stop) at the end of a fun section of road
I love the atmosphere these guys create, I look forward to these every week.
Each of them bring there own individual quirk which makes the podcast what it is. Keep it up guys
Loved the two car garage challenge in this episode and here is my take on it since I am currently in that position ;)
1st one needs to be T6 Multivan , the Generation Six one with red or blue bottom and white top and "Disc" 18" wheels. You will never get more cheerful reactions from kids, all the adults will think you have California and you are one of those freelancer types surfing on the beach all day. You will enjoy the practicality and your kids will love the possibility to take all their friends on sleepovers (not sure if you are going to be as thrilled :D ) - done
2nd needs to be GT86/BRZ. Still has 4ish seats, but you need an antidote to the Multivan, that is all about the feel, the lightness and all the petrol dads that knows knows and will envy, that you can still have fun even when being a dad, not just being the chauffeur and will imagine that you have driven every corner with a bit of opposite lock :P
But I do also love the prospect of Golf GTI... - in progress
2 car garage - couldnt agree more with Manish and Chris on this one. The 320i touring but for 20k believe yout refering to the F31 not the G21 as the thumbnail picture suggests. Get a shadow edition which looks amazing! The mk7.5 GTi briliant car! Car that does everything!
We are definitely the most obviously courteous drivers in Europe. I leaned to drive in Belgium, lived over in mainland Europe for most of my life and you soon learn that you have to adapt to their individual set of road manners. In Germany on the autobahns it can actually be very dangerous to use our British driving signals. Example.. driving fast on a derestricted section of the motorway you see someone going slightly slower in the inside lane.. you decide to flash them to let them out to overtake a slower vehicle.. only.. the German thinks you’re flashing them to say I’m coming through…. so they misunderstand what you’re trying to convey to them.. end result.. you’re both doing 60mph and nobody has made a move.. this can be dangerous. Epic podcast!! Absolutely love it!!
These podcasts are the highlight of my week . Would there be any chance to do a podcast with a live audience ?
Watch this space!
Thank you to you all for making the time to sit down and do these podcasts they are a complete joy for me,and sorry to read in the comments of a listeners loss. I pretty young when I lost my father he had a red TR6 which he loved this whole thing has reminded me of sitting on the back shelf/seat all the way to Scotland with Mum navigating must have been early 70s anyway keep up the great work all the best to you all and yes bad road manners drives me bonkers.
Chris you are correct. Some of my best driving experiences here in Australia have been those where another motorist buys into the journey and our two cars travel and help each other along the way as we make our collective progress. A flash of lights or a wave goodbye when our routes finally diverge confirms the joy and appreciation experienced by both drivers.
Never, ever stop these podcasts; they are the highlight of the week!
Ooh a bit of fireworks today! Just shows the passion you bring to the show 😉
The best car podcast on the planet
There is one thing worse than the unacknowledged give way and that's the unacknowledged thank you, you thank the person that has given way and they simply stare straight through you, it really boils my water and tells you they didn't want to help, did it with contempt and finished it with ignorance.
I already know this is going to be brilliant even though I am 20 seconds in.
1:26:57 BAP "Verdamp lang her"????? Could not be more surpised! They are known all of Germany but are heroes in Cologne, singing as Harris said, the local dialect called "Kölsch" (also a light, crisp beer by the same name). Living near The Nürburgring myself Cologne is just around the corner and somehow the "big" city we all somehow love for its character. When Chris Cooper mentioned Rick Astley and Glastonbury I expected his outstanding performance of "There´s A Light That Never Goes Out" from The Smiths. The crowd went crazy.
My favourite fast friend experience was with a gorgeous Ferrari 812 SF driving back from Bicester to Coventry. We must have over taken each other 10 times but never in a bad way. We "nodded" goodbye to each other with our hazards when he finally turned off.
What a brilliant series of podcasts, you really make this look effortless and natural like you're all down the pub!
But they have put the Stratos that based on 430 Scud into production.
Superb Friday evening entertainment, yet again. 👏👏👏
Manish great song !! Love it , never knew the name!
Memorable cars from the school run , Mr Gadieu the DT teacher had a series 1 lotus elise in green , that was the car i remember from my early secondary school days in wincanton
But now , i see a lady with a Seat 600 ( spanish made fiat 600 ) , a pastel green , , big child seat , , and it looks fantastic !!!
Loving the podcast !!! I enjoy it massively and you’ve had me laughing away !!! Thanks guys !!
Space - Neighbourhood. Incredible shout Manish, thank you, not heard that for a few decades.
While I'm cooking the evening meal with a glass of beer, you guys keep me interested and well entertained. 😂
Love all the episodes but EP 24, with extra energy and fun makes it 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥worth saving for 5 x replays in the coming days.
Something to look forward to every week lads. Love it
My favourite time of the week and it's over so quickly. A big thank you to you for another great instalment, I'm so glad I'm on the planet at the same time as you guys!
one day can you do a 5 minute back story on each of the fine gentlemen on this panel with social media links in the show notes
i currently live in canada and i have only heard of chris harris from his various tv appearances
Here in the states, I've done a TON of cross-country driving in my 6 decades of driving (towing racecars or just driving 12 hour stints)... I LOVE the Fast Friend concept. we use our radar detectors, block for one another, swap "rabbit" duties, all in a quest to get down the road in brisk fashion. We also flash for radar cops over here. Love the podcast.
So good! I laughed so much with the Edward Lovetts choices of two car garage! Music choices had so much emotion!
Beanos here again. I so needed this fix. I have worried about how long this will continue, and what a hole it would make. During the “cars they should have made’ discussion it occured to me. THEY NEED to do this as much as we need to have it. They love expressing themselves and exploring their knowledge. Thank goodness for these clever, knowledgable diverse petrol heads we love. Thank you thank you thank you.
We all have our strengths and weaknesses.
Lord knows I do.
Neil is incredibly thoughtful on his musical choices and has caused me significant expenditures on iTunes but Chris Cooper and I are on the same musical wavelength! Well done!
I do think Chris could work in his choices for a 2 car (or, 4,6 or whatever) garage.
Pardon me for the kiss/slap.
Go for 4 digits on the number of Podcasts.
Love to drive with you lads.
Re communication and driving like an adult - on average (generalizing here so wrong in the details but right on the whole) in Boston Massachusetts, USA the driver attitude is “No quarter given, None asked.” Probably similar to the Dutch. Here’s an opening fill it NOW or lose it forever, neither ask for nor offer a slow-down, go when the light is green or risk the wrath of the entire crowd, pay attention at all times and behave like a sentient adult. I love that (and miss it loads where I now live in the “land of steady habits” Connecticut). It’s accompanied by the occasional nod of acknowledgement - “Good on ya, keeping the traffic moving smoothly.”
Supermarket etiquette , a collecting trolleys podcast
You guys are not time wasters... sharing the passion you lot cultivated, rubs off on ppl like myself, all the way down in Brasil (with an S cause that's how we say it). Thank you for the lovely chat
love cooper's comment on the "perverse enjoyment" of making something flow that really shouldn't - my first car was a honda fit which had more body roll than literally any other vehicle i've driven but it meant that even in middle of the city where I live, you could drive through backstreets and chicanes on the absolute limit whilst still remaining inside the law - it was a shit car to drive but there were so many opportunities to floor it that it sort of didn't matter
Great episode again gents.
I'm currently 5 for 5 on getting waves back in my 986, 2 of those were 996 drivers so not just other Boxster drivers.
8am sharp.
Lovely jubbly. Cheers lads.
Yes, BAP! 'Verdamp lang her' was written by singer Wolfgang Niedecken. In short: He talks to his (dead) father saying that it's been a while that they talked. In other words: he misses him. (I'm Dutch but live close to the border. Our dialect has some simularities with 'Kölsch Platt'.
fantastic as always!!
Ive been reading a book by Porsche called The Porsche Driving book published by Porsche GB. It is an excellent read and I wondered if anyone had it on the shelf. Speaks to many of the road manners and driving mastery on public roads. Always excellent gents thanks for being authentic we all enjoy these conversations.
Great video as ever. Enjoy listening to the stories behind your choices, sometimes very funny and often very philosophical. The car I'd want that was never made would be the E46 BMW M3 Touring. Had to sell my M3 Convertible when kids arrived and that would of been ideal.
Brilliant gents, I have been made to feel alone in this for so long, to hear you all speak on the no response to a kind act. I was with a former boss at lunch and held the door and stopped to let a guy in before we all departed the same door. He just walked passed us and didn’t even make eye contact. I about lost my shyt and my boss quipped, “you go from 0-1000 pretty fast don’t you?” I replied “yeah I do, and if you’re gunna be a prick expect to get pricked on occasion.” It’s common courtesy that is dwindling and our job as parents to bring back. Cheers boys.
Really enjoy these. I recently visited the UK from the USA and struggled to understand the etiquette on single track roads. I always felt I should give way but often felt that I was in the wrong.
If you guys read this then 👍. A tad behind as new follower playing catch up. The other week you done a piece about Quotes. I was shocked as for Porsche fans or as I’m called a Porsche snob you missed the greatest quote ever! The Film Risky Business quote “Porsche no substitute”. Says it all in 3 words.
This one is going to be a classic for the vocabulary alone. I just wish the setting was some dimly lit pub and everyone was having a pint (and I don't drink, or go to pub's).
One of my many hitch-hiking trips around South Africa was a three lift trip from Cape Town to Johannesburg in sixteen hours in 1970.
The 'thankyou' for giving way is pretty much only a UK thing - Mainland Europe haven't developed that sort of etiquette yet :D
For me, it's the BMW Garmisch. Bertone designed, elegant Bavarian luxury. If they had made it, the British would have been very worried.
Great stuff gentlemen
Another cracking podcast chaps!
Marmite cars, great section - difficult for me to think of cars that are either universally loved or hated, but perhaps the current shape Ford Mustang.
I don't necessarily agree with a two-car garage needing to have one convertible, but I'll humour you with my choices:
(Both currently on collecting cars)
1983 MERCEDES-BENZ (W123) 300 TD
2013 JAGUAR XK 5.0 V8 CONVERTIBLE
A303 20 years ago was my favourite fast passing road. Used to have epic runs down to the Chard turn off.
‘Facility’ had me on the floor laughing 😂
That point about the fast friend is so true
"one day we might venture into marmite people."
Jump-cut to E.Lovett's boat race. 🤣🤣
There’s no shortage in controversial automobiles but would love to hear opinions on some of these marmite models:
- 7 series “bangle butt”
- Audi TT mk1 with the baseball interior
- Cybertruck
- “Eco-boost” V6 in the Ford GT
- Neil’s hatred of the r32 & r34 Skyline
Love this show, watching from Aus. Goodluck with the little urn
Space - Neighbourhood - great shout Manish - top tune and lyrics - is already on the playlist I use in the car.
If you live and drive in a country other than you own , the biggest mistake you can make is to play by home rules when away . I have lived and driven a great deal in Turkey where speed limits seem to be advisory , undertaking is common and pushing in is accepted behaviour . You have to go with the flow and do the same things or you are likely to cause an accident by doing the unexpected . Having said that , the preemptive \courtesy 'thank you' is a handy weapon in the armoury . Love your stuff chaps . Thank you .
A Defender? Definitely indestructible and totally iconic, so must be special. However, it's one of the cars that you feel might hurt you when you get inside - not from a crash etc, but simply from sharp edges of bent metal and panels inside the car. Makes me want to be careful what I touch in case I am suddenly bleeding!!
I hadn't seen the hazards as a thankyou thing. I drive an old clapped out ute from time to time and on long journeys I like to slow down or pull over to let people past, got the hazard flash and wondered what it was about, then thought that was nice of them.
At an intersection and someone doesn't indicate early so you could pull out and be on your way but you have to sit there until the last min. I sit there and watch them drive by, they never make eye contact even to the extent that sometimes the passenger will and they do look embarrassed.
The best thing though is when the person that doesn't thank you or messes you about on the road has a plate with their name on, you can really personalise your abuse to them and it makes it so much better.
The old Defender is the most uncomfortable car ive ever been in hands down…
Thanks for entertaining me each week on my 2 hr commute drive i do every day.
Every week you chat about something that I personally identify with.
Question please. BMW E90 M3 sedan. Q car or not? (My dream car within my budget)
Land Rover. Making mechanics out of drivers for 65 years!.
My current 2 'Collection Cars' Garage- 1988 BMW E24 635 CSi in Delphin Grey over black and, 2002 BMW E46 330 CI Cabriolet in Topaz Blue over black.
Love a couple of your 2 Car Garage choices.
I had a 1999 BMW E36 M3 Cab, manual in Estoril Blue over black. Amazing and fun car.
I also had a 2000 Jaguar XKR Cab. 4.0 l S/C GT . What isn't there to love.
Thanks again
Pete from Oz
Just spent the weekend in St Mawgan and Porth Mawgan, lovely part of the world. Go the bearded cider place Chris, it’s great 🤣 and the A30 is a great road!
❤ A 1993/94 Defender 90, for me is a lovely lovely thing ❤
So many choices... 944/928 Shooting Brake concepts looked amazing, as did the renderings of a modern 928 that I think ended up as the Panamera, then the modern Lamborghini Espada that was rendered in Autocar that never was...
You can legally 'convert' your car to have four passengers in your back seat with Multimac's child seat system. Or three passengers in your originally two-person rear seats. So I believe you can very easily have your GT3 rear seats approved.
Just been in Slovenia, where the drivers are the most courteous we have come across in Europe, even the trucks keep to their lane. Incidentally, for a scenic drive the Vrsic Pass takes some beating and Ljubljana the greenest, most relaxing and romantic city ever. Another exellent podcast, though CH just saying you are angry and not very nice is no excuse, as has been told to many other teenagers. And lady petrol, really? Ditto. Keep up the good work guys.
Here in the US we have this thing called the jeep wave. The company jeep even recognizes this and most jeep owners know about it too. I have never felt such community on the road than when I drove a Gladiator Rubicon.
I did my advanced driving test and acknowledging other road users is an important thing along with gaining eye contact to make sure they have seen you
Love the reimagined 928 Nardone.... hope they make it beyond the stratos project...
A guy I worked with at a performance shop had a E30 M3, he used to get pulled over all the time for having windows that were too dark, he had to show them it was actually tinted glass and not film. Nightmare.. looked amazing polished Fikse wheels on Bilsteins..
When my kids were younger they loved One Direction, If you had told me then that I would of liked Harry styles when he went solo I’d never had believed you .
He just keeps bringing out great tune after great tune .
my current 2 car garage is a Panamera e-hybrid and a manual 992 Carrera T arriving soon (currently a manual CT4 V Blackwing).
Totally agree Neil, on the lack of acknowledgment from other drivers 'thing' when you give way/pull into a passing place/mount the bank etc.
Dare I say it, but frequently women don't bother to acknowledge chivalry of this nature.
Here in the shires of Hants, lack of such respect is on the increase....maybe due to so many Townies moving in.
I have noticed though on infrequent trips to the Weald of Kent (around Tunbridge Wells area), everyone acknowledges each other....Tunbridge Wells (my childhood area) is still a bastion of polite society. Something reassuring about that!
Concept cars I wish they had made: BMW 3.0 CSL Hommage!
In the UK, you politely flash to let someone through. In Israel, you flash to let the other driver know you are coming through