Land Rover Defender 90 - After 6 months is it staying ?
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- Опубликовано: 5 июн 2024
- I have been running the Land Rover Defender 90 as my Hendy Group Long Termer for 6 months now. What have I learnt in that time and the big question is...will it be staying ?
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Video Contents
00:00 - Introduction
00:26 - 6 months already !
02:46 - Brilliant Engine
03:49 - Difficult to wash !
04:29 - Rack, Ladder and Gear Carrier ?
05:25 - Side Steps
06:13 - It's BIG !
07:50 - 3 door or 5 door ?
09:37 - Boot Space
10:50 - Safe and Secure to drive ?
14:40 - Start/Stop, Efficiency and AdBlue !
17:15 - Is it staying ?
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I'd have the 110 D300 without any exterior accessory packs. It covers more bases than most cars.
I own a LR DIscovery 5 which has the same engine (3.0D straight six). Each time I get in the car I'm just astonished at how beautiful the engine is. Utterly smooth, very economical and, for the 2.2ton burden that it lugs about, quite fast. A delight to drive.
Yep 👍
While it works lol
@@ln5747 Two years in. Not one thing wrong.
@@darrenprior6339 for now lol
@@ln5747 Ok Troll. Oh forgot to add sarcastic and insincere LOL at the end of the post. Here you go. LOL
😊"You can get into one of these now for less than £70,000"
"They are starting to become a more affordable option".... Crikey, who for? The thought of spending anything like that for a car absolutely shocks me. My 2020 Cooper S (that I have since foolishly sold) was as much as I'd ever pay for a car and I didn't add the Nav pack, comfort pack or any other pack. Now I have the 2023 Cooper SE but it's on lease from Motability. I'd never buy an electric car with my own money.
I do love the new Landies but not the 75th anniversary model. I don't mind the green but it's overkill having the wheels in the same colour.
+1.. That's a Ditto on the "same coloured wheels".. Straight up silver alloys is my taste..
70,000 - I remember looking to buy a 110 for 20k new 😮
Try speccing up a Grenadier & you’ll end up at £70k quite quickly. I know which one I’d buy.
The wheels are a defining characteristic. They look odd but they are unique to the model hence why it is special.
Pre-lockdown, you could get the entry level 90 for £42k - like all manufacturers, Land Rover have essentially used the pandemic as a great price reset and seem to be getting away with it because people just aren’t bothered getting into unaffordable debt
Today’s diesel is clean, I tow a two tonne caravan and it still spins the wheels up with the POWER!!
I bought the same 75th anniversary , but I have the 110. I don’t have any of the roof rack or side accessories and I love it. The colour gets loads of attention and most people love it. I did however get the dealer to powder coat the wheels black before I picked it up. The car is outstanding and I love driving it. The comment you made about you’re glad when Tracey is driving it, as you feel the car is looking after her and keeping her safe. I have exactly the same feeling when my wife is driving it. In fact I always ensure she’s driving it when she’s on a longer journey.
Keep up the content, I love it.
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Thanks Pete, great summary. Having owned ours now for 5 weeks or so, the Mrs (better half) came in today and just said "I love that Defender" .. magic when we consider how much we just paid for it. One thing you mentioned and I totally get it, when I think of herself and the little lady out and about there is something so reassuring about the Defender that I think you summarised perfectly. We spend most our time on non lined roads with potholes and loads of puddles or flooding right now. Its not off-roading I know but its exactly because of the setup/ build of the vehicle that any roads, even ours in these states, are a joy !! LOVE IT
Great to hear 👍
Hi Pete - the MY2024 90 has a new manual system on the front passenger seat that makes using the rear seats much more practical - making good use of it on ours. Decided against the adventure pack as we like the clean looks and quieter drive.
Just to let you know, the new 90 defenders all come with a manual ‘parachute’ mechanism passenger seat that is a much faster mechanism with a quick tug and they have added storage in boot to bring boot’s floor level up to meet rear seats when seats are down. We have one coming soon! So very excited!🎉
Good to know 👍
Me too!
Great Honest review. I took delivery of one of the first 110 P400 X's in Australia as a replacement for my 5.0 Disco 4. 60,000km later I still love the car. No issues at all and it perfectly suits my lifestyle living in rural Australia 👍🏻
Nice 👍
Seriously, its a crying shame that JLR keeps coming bottom or near bottom in reliability polls. What is going on? These cars cost a fortune, way above what a working man can afford and yet they cannot get the quality up there with VW and Honda. Unacceptable.
VW has a myth of reliability
@@martintaylor8034may well be the case but what about JLR
Not sure about that. I've got a Range Rover, no more problems than Audi's or VWs I've had.
I’ve certainly had no problems with my 90 and I love it
@@onechopbuddy3849 same here
Thanks 👍Great review update. My D300 90 arrived at the dealer today and I pick it up on Wednesday. Can’t wait. Cheers
Hope you enjoy it!
Enjoy, we have ours about 5 weeks now (D250). Loving the 90 !
Great review. I’ve always thought the 90 is the prettier car, but I bought the 110 as the 90 wasn’t out at that time and for me I would still opt for the 110 as I need the space so often. When I got my 110 the new defender was fresh on the market and I fell in love with mine as soon as I saw it in the showroom (blue with black alloys etc..). They were in demand so had to make a quick decision and traded in my D5. The only downside was it has the D200 engine which I had some initial reservations about, but after 3 years it’s been brilliant, including when towing. In recent years I’ve owned the Freelander 2, D3, D4, D5 and Evoque (all reliable btw) and this Defender is far and away my favourite Land Rover I’ve ever owned. The only issue was the noise from the A-pillar covers (I think that was a design flaw on earlier models) but once fixed it never reoccurred. I put off road tyres onto mine and personally I feel it makes the car look ‘complete’.
I have a 90 Hse and love it ! back seats are pain for passengers getting access but overall it feels safe, handles all weather and is so nice to drive, I get 30mpg and a 550 mid range. heated seats and steering wheel isa boom. manoverability in tight spaces with the cameras no problem, comfortable with meridian sound system and no mechanical issues.My ideal vehicle!
Thanks for sharing!
Great work. I am listening to it in my brand new 2024 defender 110X and I absolutely love it.
I think that car would look much better with the steel wheels - either white or colour-coded.
Shame Land Rover haven’t got a handle on how easy they get stolen. Now they have a reputation. Love the chunky looks of these. I imagine the depreciation is heavy on it.
There’s no issue with the new Defender (or any model after 2018).
As for depreciation. Independent dealers are still offering to buy them off owners, so depreciation is no issue
8:28 - I timed it and you're correct. I takes exactly quite a long time. One of my pet peeves on most things with two doors and electric seats. It seems like having a simple release would be fairly easy to implement but almost none have it.
I like the looks of the car. I really do. I'm tempted to spring for one. But i don't have much confidence in JLR products. Thankfully Toyota announced the new Land Cruiser which checks the same boxes for me. I'll be waiting for that in 2024.
The Adblue comment was so interesting! We bought an E pace 240D and we're so surprised how little Adblue it demands! I bought 20 litres, thinking that it would gulp it down but no! 4000 Kms later, I've only managed to get 4.5 litres into the tank! And.... On a run... 5.4 liters per 100 kms snd around the city 7.3, despite subzero temperatures all day! My experience over yhe last 30 years of JLR products is that if you look after them, they'll look after uou! Noore costly or unreliable than any other marques but with distinct advantages. So many Land Rovers here in Belarus! You'd be surprised! Nearly as many as in Shropshire, my home, previously for 26 years. 😊
Morning buddy. Will miss seeing this around. I think the Colour was top class. 👍🇬🇧
Great informative analysis as usual. Makes my old series 3 look a bit basic. I love the colour and the design and I really hate myself for feeling like that. Think I will stick with my old Cayenne for now though, 4 doors and plenty of room for the dog cage. Well done again.
I have a 2023 P400 90 x-dynamic. After 11000 miles it’s been tremendous. No issues.
My wife loves them and i feel the same about her being safe when she is out in her volvo
I have owned a 2020 D240 110 First Edition and in March 2023 took delivery of its replacement - a D250 HSE 90 with air springs, ediff Off road pack and tow pack in Pangea Green. The difference between the two engines is chalk and cheese. The 2.0ltr 4 pot was plenty powerful and torquey but the straight 6 3.0ltr is in a different world. Bags of power and very smooth and quiet I have to be very careful on the motorway as it will just leap away at the slightest pressure on the gas pedal. I had a lot of rattles and leaks in my February 2020 build 110, the 90 has only been to the dealers to collect a set of roof cross bars and will be going in next week for a recall on the battery system. It’s used no oil and like you I;very been concerned how little Adblu it’s consumed compared to the amount the 4 cylinder engine drank! It really sips on the Adblu. I ran a TDi 300 90 for 21 years, I much prefer my new 90 - who wouldn’t want heated and cooled seats and a heated steering wheel, front and rear windscreens and aircon that is very effective year round. Dare I mention 35mpg average since March and that includes many many off-road days in low box on Scottish hillsides. My longest trip so far was to Harrogate in May 2023 to the Everything Electric show - on the motorway without the Adventure pack there is a slight wind rustle around the huge wing mirrors but otherwise it’s very quiet and refined. The boot is fine for me as a single person but……….. in my 110 I could stow all my recovery gear under the boot floor permanently, in the 90 that gear has to live in my garage until needed- even finding storage boxes to put kit in was difficult to find and with that in I cannot also have the folding picnic table on the tailgate like I had in my 110, there just isn’t room with the gear boxes in the boot. I do love it though, just hope it lasts as long as my 1996 TDi 300 90 ……………. Oh and my Mini Cooper S E has a bigger boot, seats up, than the 90! Mini 5 supermarket bags for life fit with room to spare - Defender 90 I can get 2 in and they are squeezed at that!
Thanks for this 👍
Agree with you totally and we love our D250 XS as well. It handles everything effortlessly from short trips into the local villages to trips down to the south of France. We’ve not got the ladder and roof box and run on the continental road tires and have found it extremely quiet at motorway speeds but as you say road noise is something that you expect with any roof rack. Likewise we’ve now driven just under 20k and have had no issues whatsoever mechanically and have never needed to top up the adblue. Terrific cars 😀
Great to hear 👍
Great to hear 👍
Great content and delivery. Best version in my book is 110 X Dynamic HSE P400E, but I am biased as had that for 6 months with no issues - so far so good 😉
Nice 👌
A proud owner from Brisbane, Australia. MY2023. P300 Engine. 15000km’s. Has not missed a beat. Comfortable on long hauls (did 6000kms in a lap around Queensland in Oct. 23). Approx. 10l/100kms. I concur with all comments in the review - it is just myself and wife now, without the hounds. I added OEM sidesteps, Bullbar, and roof rack and very happy. Yes - there is wind noise, at highway speeds though not annoying - a compromise.
Nice to hear 👍
So happy to see this video Sir Pete! My wife and I are looking at replacing are Ford Explorer with either a high trim Ford Expedition or waiting a couple years and buy a used long wheel base one of them defenders as the family transport and adventure rig. Aka my wife would drive it most lol. So hopefully prices here in the USA 🇺🇸 follow suit to the uk 🇬🇧 and drop a bit into a more affordable range for one! Great review and a awesome looking suv. My wife says if we get a defender 110 that your review will have a huge part in that decision
Thanks for the great review. Helps me tremendously
Glad to help!
Great review Pete and it is still one of my favourite cars. Seems all four you have enjoyed it. Enjoy your weekend 👍
Thanks 👍
Great review Ped; bought a D300 X-Dyamic 110 HSE largely influenced by your 110 review a year ago; had come out of a Range Rover HSE ( bought from new, 66k miles, 67 plate) which I'd replaced with a Audi Q7 Vorsprug and after 1 month and a trip to the French Alps realised I'd made a huge mistake. I've been in Range Rovers/Sports for 25 years and didn't realise that for me nothing else comes close. Amazing how familiarity becomes so important. Wasn't sure about the Defender initially and LR dealers are a nightmare to deal with (one that will remain nameless were spectacularly unhelpful - they really couldn't care less about selling me a car) but anything else from LR was literally impossible for me to insure in London so after your review ordered the Defender literally the next day. Took delivery in June and - wow - I absolutely love it. What a fantastic car. It has exceeded every expectation. 7 months and 10k miles in, with everything European weather can throw at it - from 40 degree heat In France in the summer, Yorkshire floods last month and snow and ice in the Alps last week - to say nothing of the potholes in Surrey! It eats motorways as effortlessly as the Range Rover - we did an 11 hour drive back at the weekend in great comfort! Only issues I've had are a cracked windscreen (from motorway gravel..) and someone trying (and failing) to steal it by taking an angle grinder to a rear door - added bonus, LR finally seem to have done something about their security, well overdue. Mine's the diesel mild hybrid and I'm delighted with the consumption - will get almost 600 miles on a run out of it which is better than my previous RR and far better than the Petrol Q7 which was frankly quite a shock when I saw how thirsty it was. Truly brilliant car - puts a smile on my face everytime I get in it and surprisingly easy to manoeuvre in and around town (just keep an eye on the width restrictions on the traffic calming measures and ignore Waze's directions!!!). Love your reviews Ped, keep them coming!
Wow this is great to hear and I’m so glad you love it 👍
They’re a gorgeous looking machine!
I absolutely love my 110, 2 springers in the back, trips to Scotland twice and it’s not missed a beat. I think I commented on one of your first video’s with this defender that you would find a 90 way to small 😂
Did you expect it to miss a beat, especially at the price point 😂
I have a D300 110 SE on order due to arrive in Brisbane in April 2024. Great balanced review. It's fair to say the drivetrain in the D300 with the straight 6 diesel engine matched to ZF gearbox has been bulletproof. The question will be electronics over time. In Australia, Land rovers come with a 5-year unlimited bumper to bumper warranty, enough to convince me to sell the 300 Series Landcruiser after 12 months of ownership.
.....lets revisit this in a decade.
good luck! I have a XFS 2010 with the old 3.0 TDV6 which has excellent economy but I hear so many stories about the Ingenium so curious how you go long term.
I have driven three different 110's as we nearly bought one on two separate occasions but didn't for a number of reasons, like you I am a fan of the shape of the 90 but I too would probably have bought the 110 for practicality and certainly wanted the adventure pack and snorkel. I passed again through the Balmoral Estate the other day and that spec and colour sits proudly outside one of the keepers houses and certainly looks the part even if it is not quite to my taste. It would still be one of my first purchases on a large lottery win car shopping list if not the first.
Cool 😎
Still think it’s a great looking car but I would do without that side box and just have a ladder on both sides if I was to have the roof rack. Glad to hear you had no issues with the car, personally I think that’s another advantage of that straight six engine, it’s a good well sorted engine which is perfect for this type of car.
The side box will get broken into regular
Nice summary Pete, I personally love this colour and the matching alloys…..cheers fella!
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Very balanced review. I’d argue the average Defender buyer isn’t going to be washing it themselves. I’d also suggest the average buyer has access to other ‘more practical’ vehicles when needed. Ridiculous really that such a large vehicle can be so impractical, but it’s a fashion accessory for the most part.
Great review - I’ve got Schnausers too. Ive also had the First Edition 90 also good spec but like you, long term, not having two extra doors became a pain along with the smaller boot. So now have a 110 HSE (cancelled order so got it within a week) and absolutely love it for all the reasons you’ve flagged. Actually before buying the Defenders I had a V8 Range Rover Autobiography on a 69 plate but I prefer the 110 over that - the D300 engine is amazing and sounds really good. Makes me smile every time I get behind the wheel. In a similar but more expensive way my only breakdown was a badly punctured tyre on a fast dual carriageway but quickly changed by the Land Rover Emergency Assistance service. A big fan of the ‘over the air’ software updates too and a recent home visit by LR Assistance to add other software to add another level of theft security as a recall. Keep the videos coming, great job, Thanks
Great to hear 👍
Great review Ped! I love the Defender 90. Something tells me you may regret not having this in your life😂
Hi Pete, I have a X Dynamic HSE 90 D250 which we absolutely love. I have had it 6 weeks and done 1000 miles and it is averaging 33mpg with mainly short journeys. The MY24 has a manual front passenger seat which makes access to the rear much quicker. Also the stop start has a "Auto Hold" function which if you switch off makes the Auto stop start work a lot smoother. The engine is superb!
Pete, we have had our 22MY 110 D250 X-Dynamic HSE from new for 2½ years now, it’s done 32,000 miles and it has been the best car we have ever owned! What I struggle to comprehend is how such a capable off road vehicle can drive so well on road, I have owned 5 Range Rovers and have no desire to have another as the Defender does everything so well and looks so much cooler. I completely understand your POV regarding Tracey driving on her own and eventually I am sure you will have one as your family daily driver. Your update was spot on but I knew that before watching😂
Ah thanks Andy 👍
The perfect yuppie poser latte cruiser.
The market LR seek.
I love your work and thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
Final thoughts🤔 Have you missed your Specsavers appointment? The appendages on the side look a mess and most people who see them are probably P1 ssing themselves with laughter that some fool drives around with that.
Extremely over priced Sardine can, rear access is a joke, boot space ridiculous. You must use micro flight cases not suit cases. Poor little dogs being shut in there😢
Any car should be reliable for 6 months to a year! But you can probably expect a load of expense and problems if you plan for a long term of ownership.
You’re not a fan then 😂
Couldn't agree more!
I’ve got a VW T6 204 DSG 4 Motion ( bought as a window van/kombi). It’s got way more space, is quick, comfortable and also gives us a great feeling of robustness and safety. It also returns 35 mpg in general driving and up to 40mpg on a tour. Honestly, it’s the best vehicle we’ve had. Unless you do a lot of off road stuff I just can’t see the point in the Defender and its ilk. The 90 is nearly twice the price of the T6 we have.
I have a 110 X300 Dynamic commercial and absolutely love it. I feel its more planted and nicer to drive than the vogue which is all wallowing. No matter the weather or road conditions, its fantastic. Sorry to mention this, but not really bothered about driving the Ferrari when I have the defender
Great review, have just picked up our defender 90 d250 - really cool and a big change from the Alpine A110 it replaces. Cheers from Brisbane
Nice one!
I only looked at it in th showroom but I agree with your point on accessing the seats in the back. Just throwing sth. on the back seats with these electric motors is just crazy. If there would be a manual option to move to seat forward and backward to access the back seats would be a major improvement.
Its a good point. Our drivers seat is electric but the passenger seat is manual. You lift the catch and simply push forward. Lot quicker than the drivers side
Good Evening petrol ped enjoy your videos The one option I would not go for is the box on the side because it blocks all view out of the hand mirror. I think the colour looks smart. And I sat in one the other day and everything was close to hand and logically laid out like the air-conditioning controls. Volkswagen could really take note 😂 I don’t have any problems with the design it looks brilliant I think thank you again for your brilliant videos
Tristan
Love the Defender but my choice would be a 110 and in an ideal world the V8 version 😊 which fortunately for me doesn't come in green (or I hope not!). I wouldn't have the adventure pack either. The only Jag/LR 75th anniversary version I love is of the F Type! Brilliant review Ped, and now I'm looking forward to what you have next 👍
Hello again Pete, would have bet quids that you would miss the two extra doors. I had an early model Toyota Forerunner (from new), which also had two doors. With a child and car seats etc access was challenging but, I think , better than the Defender 90. A very basic vehicle super reliable over the 10 years and about 400,000 km of use. Your long "termer" time isn't long enough to prove costs of the experience in my books. The noise factor of the external accessories would be a factor for our choice as high speed travelling to any where from the location with the Forerunner, about 300 miles from the nearest capital city (Adelaide, South Australia) and the local interesting places were on dirt roads/tracks. Cheers and thanks again for the review, all good.
Great video... Did you notice any differences in ride, handling, directional stability between the 110 and the 90? Thanks
I saw a 110 Defender parked at the side of the road ,the family were admiring the country side , they were still there two hours later -On the Hard Shoulder of the M3 waiting for a recovery truck .BUT , Seen less of knackered Defenders this last year ,so the Company in Slovakia must be getting better at building them - Juries still out
Enjoyed the review. On the stop start, when in traffic you can disable the hold function, it's this that requires the harder press of the pedal to get going which is a bit annoying when manoeuvring. However in general on the D5, same engine, I find engine restart quite quick. I do think you should try a D5 while the 90 is fresh in your mind, as it addresses most of your shortcomings. It's also more practical with bike rack or other tow bar mounted accessories, and dogs in the boot. You can have both dogs and luggage in there easily. Offer of a drive still there... 👍
I have driven a D5 👍
Great review, had my 2022 Defender D250 90 HSE X-Dynamic for 3 months and absolutely love it. All terrain and I think quieter than the D4 I replaced it with. No issues, love the engine and power and like you said, the confidence And security it gives you. Drove the 130 for a weekend. Chalk and cheese with the 90. 130 was Slow and lumbering but not too bad for such a large car.
Thanks for sharing
I have the same model and love it, great engine. Also disliked the stop start at first until I reallised you could turn off "Auto Hold" which means it now works flawlessly,
I've just orded the 130 5.0 v8 they are quick not drive the others
Just ordered the same as yours. How’s the fuel consumption on the 250?
34mpg on average
Good and informative review, enjoyed it.
Glad you enjoyed it!
We've have a Defender 90 X for about 2.5 years now, been a great car so far. My biggest issue is the amount of wind noise from the roof rack. At highway speeds with the canvas roof it's kinda unbearable… so we've removed the rack until we need it. Otherwise, love our 90!
I can imagine 👍
I think the problem we have with Landrover in Oz is our dealer network. They do not support the owner. They fight every claim. I am a bit concerned about your comments of driving through flooded roads though. OK here in Oz we do get some very fast rising and flowing streams as we can end up with 50 - 100mm of rain in an hour. That is a lot of water that has to move quickly. Almost every storm we see a drowning as drivers attempt to cross flooded roads. Great video Peter, full of information.
Glad you enjoyed it 👍
Once you consider the residuals and the relatively low depreciation, then the costs make a lot of sense.
This depends in which country you live in . In Oz the depreciation on LR products is more than Jap and Kraut . RRS were selling well 10-15 years back , but it's GLE and X5 nowadays here .
You're obviously not tracking Land Rover residuals recently then.
Low depreciation? Uh, no.
Land Rover residuals and low depreciation? Which planet are you on, mate?
The residuals are only good when you buy something 3 yrs old to begin with.
Hi Peter I always knew you would fall in love with the defender, it's a cool vehicle that really suits your needs ,but I think we can go one better ,I think we need you to check out a fully bespoke built volkswagan t6.1 204 transporter dsg lwb highline kombi 4 motion swamper from Van haven. You wouldn't believe how many people are trading in there defender's for a fully customised and built around your specific requirements transporter from Van Haven, I think you need to give the transporter a really good look .I think you will be super impressed and make you reevaluate your defender 🤟keep up the great work truly love the channel, hope to see you in Blandford forum at some point 👍
Definitely wish they has four doors on the 90. The anniversary edition colour look amazing on this gorgeous car. The pups are so cute.
Thanks 🙏🏻
Once again great video. Iam somewhat surprised at your fuel cost. I run the D350, which is basically the same unit with a bit more power and am always returning very high 30 and on runs 40 is easily achieved. Mine is the new Sport so weight of vehicle would be similar. I perhaps conclude that the Adventure pack, coupled short journeys are responsible.
Lovely video. Well done Peds. And don't forget to keep the dogs when the car goes back😊
On a long run I get into the 30s too. That was a long term average which as I said was mainly short runs 👍
Definitely those silver pads in the car need to be replaced with black colour. The Defender letters up front es well changed to black with back will cover and lunch box.
Nice balanced review. if the next long termer was the 110 it would make a great back to back review?
I have the 110 i love it
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I get that you just like the looks of the adventure racks etc, and put up with the noise happily. But do you use it? What’s in the pannier?
Very comprehensive and detailed review. Less than £70K wow! Loved this review, thanks and well done. Take care and enjoy your holibobs..
Thanks, you too!
Hi.......I am now on my second LR 90, but both have/is the Hardtop 250 (van) version. I absolutely love them...brilliant around the farm and ok at towing heavy loads. Engine is sweet as a nut and quick. Aroud town 29mpg but out on a run 33mpg. Hates....woeful headlights now vastly improved by Lazer 750r spotlights which come specifically for a Defender. Seats comfy but lack of support under thigh! Stereo sound ok but gettng it upgraded next (sound proofing doors) and finally last,but the worse....pathetic reversing lights! With the price of new pick ups £45k plus, I think this is a great car (van)
It’s a cracking looking car but I would go 110. For a car that size I’d want the space and practicality. They had a grey 110 at goodwill on display that was fantastic.
As always, a great , truthfully honest review. Sounds like you both fallen I. Love with the 90 👍😁
Thanks 👍
Have a 110 D300 XD HSE, which is my good lady's car. Living out in the sticks, with filthy farm roads, collapsed verges, potholes and frequent flooding, I completely agree that her having the Defender, as her daily commute, is extremely reassuring, although you still need to drive to the conditions and be wary of others of course and, just because it feels like a tank, which could deal with an apocolyspse, doesn't mean it is one. Before purchasing, we had a demo with the Adventure Pack but didn't like the compromised rear visibility, when using the side mirrors. Side steps are a must though IMHO. Internally, it's a really comfortable place to be, without being OTT and the high up driving position is epic. With regards the size of the thing, she's got used to it very quickly and, for such a big car, it's surprisingly manoeuvrable, with impressively sharp steering. She has no problem parking up and it quickly became second nature, especially with the various, onboard 3D cameras providing excellent assistance. The ability to lower the suspension and lock it, when entering a tight multi-story has meant nothing has beaten us yet but, with that roof rack, I'd say there's next to no chance. The D300 engine is 'a peach' and eats up the miles when the journey requires it, although we tried the D250 and there's an awful lot to like about that as well, even if it is down on power by a few horses. Plus you can save a good few quid by choosing it. Almost a year in and we've had zero issues apart from a couple of manufacturer recalls and whilst there are a few design choice and functionality annoyances, we're really happy and can see us keeping the car for many, many years, because it ticks every one of our boxes. I've been looking at a 90 in a similar spec to replace my X5 but the lack of boot space for the dog, (medium size), plus the finicky rear seat access, has put me off, especially, as I'm often chucking stuff across the back seats. (Not kids or passengers!) So another 110 might be on the cards although I'm tempted to 'hold fire' for a bit to see what the new Land Cruiser has to offer, when it finally arrives in the UK later this year.
Thanks for this 👍
Hi PP, I’m due to order my 90 HSE later this year for a December delivery. It’s great you have you tubed your 6 months experience.
Nothing puts me off & I certainly accept the 3 Door inconvenience however, one thing you’ve never mentioned I believe, is the seats! They look so basic & bench like, are they comfortable & supportive? I know not in the way of Sports SUVs I’ve always had. Love your comments on the seats please.
Seats are super comfortable. Front and rear 👍
Nice to see you driving between Goodwood and Kingsley Vale
Well spotted 👍
Great and honest review. Thank you. Also tested the 90 300 petrol version and had the same issues with rear seat access. Front seats moving forward at glacial pace and tiny gap to hoist yourself into the rear seats. That gets old very quickly when you’re occasionally traveling with smaller passengers. Also, boot space very compromised by the alloy rail that sits behind the rear seats and cannot be moved. Completely impractical and with seats folded forward it does not provide an even surface that’s good for loading anything, bike etc. And good luck putting the rear seat belts back in place when you want to put the rear backrest back up. Someone was not thinking when this was engineered… Also felt the wind noises at motorway speeds were a little too pronounced, even with no exterior trim. If you have a non air suspension version the car sits slightly higher than the air sprung one. Ride quality aside, that makes getting in and out even at 6’4 quite the challenge without the side sills. Great looking car but as a daily driver oddly impractical. The large exterior does not translate into a versatile interior for the short wheelbase, even for someone without kids or pets.
Thanks for this 👍
If anyone fills the AdBlue, be very careful not to overfill it, there’s been loads of issues with it effecting the cars DPF sensor/electronics.
Not all Land Rovers have this issue, but a fair few do!
Love my Velar D300.
Bought a 23 110 HSE D300 x-dynamic based on your first review. Have the same kit and agree with most of your comments. It’s a fantastic car. One negative I would add is dashboard reflection in drivers mirror at night is annoying. We did not buy the 75th edition as dealer was struggling selling them and offering mega deals and even with the price crash, we have not lost much as all on our grey car. Not had a single problem but JLR cut back on sound proofing in 23 model year plus a few other bits that we have retro fitted. Down to your review we bought it and sold our 22 Macan GTS and would not sell it so thankyou.
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23 MY they cut the sound proofing? Is that from the dealer/Land Rover or based on your experience?
@@billybob1511 During production. They cut many standard features on 23MY such as soft close rear door, locking petrol flap, rear fuse box lid, sunglasses holder, many of the USB sockets and as we retrofitted the missing items, sound deadening was missing from door and some rear panels. Just ordered some on eBay at fitted myself. Even some of the wiring loom wrapping has reverted to black tape from Tessa tape.
Great review - 100% agree on road pothole issues, but guess it is a vicious circle as in big SUV’s cause more potholes and more potholes drive people to big SUV’s. Diesel… no I’d go PHEV given the large number of short journeys I do, but sadly see it not an option for the 90. But you have me tempted for next company car in 110 size 🤔
I've never seen the point of motorised seats.
An old fashioned tilt & slide seat mechanism from the 70s would solve the back seat waiting time (but not the awkwardness of getting in and out)
Until there’s another driver involved. My wife rarely drives my vehicle, but when she does it’s really handy to push a button & the seat & mirrors are back where I want them before I’ve even got my seat belt on.
The 24my has memory driver seat, but with non memory passenger seat with manual slide. Also introduced folding row 2 cushion for flat floor.
I've had my 110 D240 First Edition just over 3 years and it's the best car I've ever owned. I also own a green Defender 90 TD5 and regardless of what a lot of people say it is the natural successor. You can feel the Defender DNA in the car. My big question is what make are your trainers ? I really like those !😀
Ah well spotted. They are from Salomon 👍 Gortex trail shoes 👍
I looked at the new Defender as a family car just under two years ago (I'm one of the few original Defender owners that doesn't hate the new version I think), but I wanted a hybrid and the price was too high, plus they wouldn't even give me a delivery date... Got a Suzuki Across plug-in instead which a fantastic car, but when I change it I may take another look at the Defender range.
I bought a new 2022 110 5.0 v8 it's been perfect,I've also just orded a 2024 Defender 130 5.0 v8 which I'm taking the back seats out and having it made in to a long range off road camper
Cool 😎
I'd keep it just for that colour! If it were an EV, then I'd keep it forever. Petrol Pups seem to like riding in it, so please ENJOY it for as long as all of you can!👍
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When the power starts going in the batteries I'm sure you would get rid off it,replacement batteries are ridiculously priced
@@patterdale4332 You're right. I'd be better off with a classic Land Rover (in this colour, though🤣🤣) done up by Petrol Ped's mate, Richard Morgan, at his Electric Classic Cars shop in Wales. He uses Tesla Motors and batteries which last into the hundreds of thousands of miles. A classic L-R EV would feel more endearing to me than these modern vehicles with their loony screens, daft control interfaces, and infotainment out the wazoo...
Nice truck, my mate has the 110 and he loves it, however, it did break down in the first year, the belt tensioner disintegrated, not what I would expect. The 90 seems an awful lot of truck but practicality is compromised. If you took all those trinkets off of the roof & sides you might break 30pmg.
Absolutely stunning looking. Loving the colour and design. 🎉
Love the defender like you said cool looking ( to me would be better with white wheels )
I have the 24MY 90 and all the problems you share have been fixed. Rear access is now manual on the driver’s side. Rear fold seats are now completely fold flat.
Nice to know 👍
Really nice motor Pete…
I would love to have seen it off road and seeing how it copes!
I have had one 1200 Meters up a Scottish hillside in the snow and it didn't slip a wheel once. No issues at all, it is more capable than most people will ever need.
That box on the side makes it look like the St Bernard of cars
I think Pete 'absolutely adores' it
Yep 👍
Hi Peter , I’m a fan we have a 90 ht 250 and we love it 😍
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Been thinking about this recently, because the roads around here are pretty crap too. Something which can plough through whatever floods or awful pot holes appear is starting to appeal. The idea of the wife and daughter being able to get home no matter what is crucial.
Yep 👍
Deisel forever...💗
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Very fair and unbiased review Ped, considering your love for this vehicle. There are a lot of compromises for such an expensive vehicle for it to be considered as your main car I fear. I could probably do with one here in Rural Shropshire where the roads are heavily potholed, flooded and covered in sH1t! However my retirement budget does not stretch that far, and I’ll plod on with my 60mpg Honda HRV! 😂
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Good review Pete and you and Tracey are obviously very taken with it. For me living in a town and needing to go into London quite often, there are too many compromises in terms of its size and thirst for fuel. The high price is also an issue and you’d seriously need to think about what you really need from a vehicle before committing to one. The new and substantially reworked Toyota Landcruiser will be available this year and I believe they’ll start from £45k. Why don’t you get one on a long term test next autumn/winter and see what you think. Having just returned from Tanzania over Christmas and the New Year, I sat in quite a few on many different types of surfaces including off road and was impressed although these were of course the outgoing generation.
Will put it on my list 👍
Cheers mate
I agree about your comment that it’s the perfect car for the UK’s crumbling roads. However, your London car park issue just highlights it’s not really suitable as an everyday car unless you have another (smaller) car for driving into the city. It’s also too compromised for the price (a faff to get in the back, tiny boot, wind noise, 26 mpg) and as others have pointed out, JLR have a terrible reliability reputation and poor dealer service (I know from experience). I can only justify owning one car so I’ll stick with my BMW 5 Series Touring.
Very balanced view as always Ped. My experience with JLR dealers rules these out for me. Oh, and green alloys! Have a word! Dreadful! 😄😄
Very fair video thank you. I must have one
You should!
Hi Peter, Happy New Year to you and Tracy, and of course the Pups 👍🙂 Regarding the Defender you've had for 6 months now, which you did say there has been no issues at all with its reliability, but you never said just how many miles you've clocked up in 6 months? Are you not tempted to buy it, knowing you have a good example Defender?
I’ve done about 5,000 miles in it. It’s just gone through 9,000 miles 👍
I actually like the colour but the price totally killed it for me.