Twice Baked Session on TOOL 4° | Is Undertow Underrated?
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Love the whole album, yeah it can be overlooked sometimes but hard core Tool fans usually hold Undertow in high regard.
Yep it's my favorite!
To each one their taste, but I agree - Undertow and Aenema are my favorite Tool albums, followed by Lateralus. The right balance of rock energy and prog spice.
each album for me hits me and gets me energized in different ways....I LOVE them all...
That's the album that got me hooked on them. Hard to leave it behind.
Undertow is my least favorite Tool album, but it’s still amazing.
This is one of my favorites because of not only the lyrics, but just the damn vibe I feel from it.
The feel, sound, and vibe is one of my absolute favorites. If you really hear those lyrics it’s super fucked up. 4 degrees is the difference between your throat and asshole.
Flood is one of my favorite Tool songs ever. This album is what started my Tool journey back around 1993 and 1994
Same
Finally ! ! Flood has been a top favorite of mine for years. It just takes me deep somewhere I can't express, but it is a very nice place indeed.
The visceral anger and desperation of this album is beyond anything I've felt from music. I sing all Tool songs, and the emotional place you have to go to for Bottom, Undertow, etc. is extreme
100%. I remember when I could sing bottom and mean it....
Why do I have Grumpy Cat face on my thumbnail? LOLOLOL - Going to start live-streaming full album listens on Twitch in June - Let's GOOOOOOO - www.twitch.tv/keyofgeebz
Oh did you save this listen through?
yes it is!
can i recommend Orphaned Land - Mabool? it's a prog/oriental/death metal album that takes the biblical flood story and inspiration from "7th son..." to create a masterpiece. lyrics in english, hebrew, arabic, latin/greek, yemeni..
Yes! Yes! Yes!
Please do one of Devin Townsend’s albums! Maybe Ocean Machine or City
Undertow was my introduction to Tool, and it resonated deeply with who I was as a twentysomething in the early 90s. I became a dedicated listener and still am 30 years later. Gah, listening to this song reminds me why I love them. I admire how they have evolved as musicians and a band, and my spiritual practice would be incomplete without their prog rock/metal, but listening to this is like comfort food. So I assume with fans of Tool who came to the band at Lateralus or after, this album is underrated within a lot of that group. I appreciate your insight, as always.
I was 18 when this album was released, and I still can't get enough after 30 years. I was at a house party and saw the Sober video on MTV. I've been a Tool addict since.
So happy to hear you’ve finally treated yourself to Tool’s back catalogue. Full albums are really the best way to appreciate their work. 😊
Agreed.
Senior year, '03, got a ride from a friend to school every day in an '89 rattle-can blue Camaro. I could count on three things; he was late, undertow was blaring, and he saved me some green. Great vid!
This song and the title track are still my two favorite Tool songs after 30 years. A lot of Nostalgia I'm sure (I was 13 when it came out), but a whole mood. Just bangers really.
I've been listening Rosetta stoned over and over. At the 7: min mark it might be one of their best pieces. Very undertoe feel.
Definitely my favorites on this album. I'm a Lateralus guy myself but as with a lot of Tool fans my favorites change pretty often.
Since it’s one of your favorites, you must know the meaning! Did you know the anal cavity is 4degrees warmer than the vagina?
It's Crawl Away for me.
Aloha from Seattle. I'm still here! This is my favourite song off of Undertow. So much soul. Spiral out, Geebz.
Perfect explanation of the Dkey-to-major key, drowing and catching a breath of air. I was just thinking i needed to listen to undertow again - I tend to stick to Aenema or later.
I hope you didn't forget about Opiate, the debut ep. Now THATS under rated.
and it has such good songs too, shame it gets overlooked..
Yes, I have always thought that Undertow was underrated. This album got me hooked on Tool. What a great album!
One of the best things about this album was the fact that they were all sharing studio time with Rage, Henry Rollins, NIN and so many other bad ass musicians from the early to mid 90's. when you listen to those recordings today and hear Maynard, Henry and everyone else adding their voice. I mean, what can you say.
My favorite Tool album.
I remember hearing sober on the radio for the 1st time and soon after stopping at a store to buy the Undertow CD and now decades later I couldn’t tell you how many times that CD has spun in the player
I love this song! Definitely underated, this album was my introduction to them.
Me too
I found the Undertow cassette in the stereo of our vacation rental the summer I was 16 or so. I feel bad for whoever left it there, but it’s what got me into Tool! I admit I wasn’t totally into it the first time I listened to it; I felt like “I don’t get it.” But the more I replayed it, the more it grew on me.
Cool to think back how we felt about music like Tool n others who came along n SHOVED tge 80s sheit we were accomstumed to out, pushing boundries like few others ever had
It's my favorite TOOL album 30 years on. The mixing that Sylvia Massey did on this is incredible.
Undertow was the first album I learned to play from front to back on guitar so it feels pretty special to me. When I saw Tool on tour in 2007, they played Flood towards the end of the show. The light show made it look like it was raining on stage. Just about the last song I would have expected them to play live. Still one of my favorite moments of any show I've been to. So yeah, I agree that Undertow is pretty underrated haha
Intolerance is my favorite Tool song. It's straightforward and aggressive, but great suspense. And yet it has a main repeating pattern in 13/16, where the percussion "carreys" it.
Tool fans largely favor all albums equally. I think. I love fest inoculum but even yesterday I had to go back to undertow again. It’s an amazing album.
Imho fewr innoculum outright sucks, but I love all the rest of their albums
@@DarranKern “personal opinion” is fine. But it’s a great album.
@@travispeterson8952 nah its a disjointed mess with incredibly bad mixing and production, high school poetry-tier lyrics, and almost 100% recycled guitar riffs. If Chancellor and Carey werent there actually trying, the album would have no redeeming qualities whatsoever
Yes. It is very underrated 👍
Me & my friends used to ride our bikes around town listening to this album nonstop when it first came out, always brings me back to those amazing times! 💗
Bottom is my favorite tool song. Absolute banger! Henry Rollins guest spot is epic. Outside of Danny's drum cam video, Im always advocating for the old stuff. Love undertow!
Undertow really forces the listener to leave their comfort zone, its a gauntlet for sure.
Very happy to see you covering Undertow here. I'll agree, it's definitely underrated, and 4° is one of the best they've got. Meditative and chunky. You've got a great way of describing it here.
Its still my favorite tool album to this day, definitely underrated
“Overwhelmed as one would be, placed in my position..”
4° is one of my favourite tracks of all time, not just Tool. I'd love to hear this re-recorded with the modern production they currently have.
It is under rated, that's why i've been suggesting it since year 1. Saying how the song flood has some of the best bass work/tone, Undertow the song is raw emotion.
I was patiently waiting years throughout all the other more popular tool songs and anonymous random patreon bands being picked, to see your reaction to those two.... but so much for that.
Didn't the great Sylvia Massey produce/record this one?
I wore this album out in 1994, after being introduced to TOOL by a buddy of mine and just like every other album of theirs, it's my favorite 😁. Like you said Geebz, this song is a definite precursor to what their overall sound would become, in a sense.
You can also hear how this album, Undertow, would come to influence bands like Wheel, The Ocean Collective, Soen, just to name a few (and even to some degree early Deftones).
I often wonder how different this album would have sounded if Justin had been in the band at the time. As a bassist of 30 years myself, I've always been blown away by his incredibly sharp, almost cutting percussive tone and his use of layering and textures have really helped to shape the sound of the band as a whole. It would've been different no doubt.
Spiral Out 🌀
Peace Brother Geebz!
Gotta love buddies like that. I hope mine isn't still pissed that he never got his demo tape back.
I was super lucky when it comes to Tool.
I got to see them perform, best sound ive ever heard live btw, back during Lollapalooza in the early 90s.
It was Undertow tour and they had a bare bones stage show, but they had an energy that singled them out.
Talk about right place at the right time.
so jealous of you... first heard sober when i was a kid in the 2010s. wish i could have seen them and that banging energy then
Aloha Geebz, good to see ya! 4° is one of my favourites off Undertow, which is a killer record! I hope everything is going well & that your shoulder is 100% healed & not giving you any issues. Stay well, sir, you are Awesome!✌🎶🤙🌊🏝🌞❤
All good now - thank you for asking :)
@@KeyOfGeebz Aw, that's great to know, I'm so glad for you, Geebz! Also, tho im not on any other social media besides YT, I know of twitch.. Congratulations on your upcoming livestream, I wish you all the best!😊
Yes, thank you! This is unapologetically my favorite Tool album
I love the swamp song, its soo angry the whole song is about, "I hate you so much I want you to get lost in a swamp an die". Its always been funny to me.
This is my favorite song from that record. Bottom is good too. I love the spoken work part by Henry Rollins
Your take on what 4* represents as a musical direction for TOOL is bang on. I'm glad that someone else points at that song and recognizes this is really the bellwether sound that they developed and grew with.
Undertow still my favorite...they still had that raw sound of their beginnings but exploring edgier sounds.
Thats so funny I just went back to rewatch your lateralus reaction again and here you are with more fresh tool reacts. Love it.
Greetings from New England... I dig this type of vid man...This album was a set up for what they were to eventually become...The structure of the song Prison Sex hinted at where they were headed...Very cool to revisit this album 🤘✌️
Adam’s solo at the end is perfection.
Appreciate you. Spiral out Geebz
Sober dragged me in and 4* kept me in… all the way in. Love this song!
Chemist and biologist chiming in, 4° Fahrenheit is the where water reaches its highest density.
The energy and emotion maynard shows here is what makes this song so great in my opinion...
'Sober' was my introduction to Tool. Everything else sprang from that, for me.
I knew you'd be back!! \m/ Howzit Aloha!
Opiate and Undertow are the best Tool albums by far imo
What a song to pick Geebs!!!
Nice to see it up today!!
You do great with these breakdowns love it..
I see Tool in the title, I click
I see a click on my tool, I title.
I always loved the sound of Undertow. I think it's the bass tone I'm attracted to.
They might not have known exactly where they were going but they knew a pretty specific direction. In my opinion Undertow, Aenima, and Lateralus is a concept set of albums. Undertow being raw, angry, with the main topics being pain, abuse, loss, and addiction. Aenima being a little more mature but still angsty with topics of facing the real world and disliking what you see and dealing with your emotional packages. The Lateralus is the arrival of maturity. Letting go of the grudge. Realizing we’re all one spiritually. Letting it all go and rising above. Concept albums are cool but concept discographies are next level.
“It didn’t quite release the Supercreative Kracken that Tool would become…”. … my favourite quote of the year so far! It could even be a great name for a new prog metal band?! 😊
This is personally my favorite of theirs.
I was just jamming this album Friday! I’m not the biggest tool fan but after listening to it better I can definitely appreciate what rhymes have done! Especially what Justin and Danny keep in the low end section!
That wasn't Justin. That was Paul D'Amour.
Paul was Tools bassist for Opiate, Undertow and about a third of Aenima. I seem to recall reading that Danny wrote some of the bass, or at least studio-working-bass for Justin to rework and rerecord.
Songs about butt sex will make your voice crack and bring you back to puberty, lol! So happy to see you back w a different format geebz! Very admirable to start over, love it
Undertow is badass. Glad to see the g man back cheers
This album started my love for tool when it was released. Still holds a special place in my heart.
I've always loved this song and this album.
Love the breakdown and the new format
As a fan since getting a bootleg of Opiate, I think it's accurate to say that in 2023, Undertow is probably underrated.
This is primarily due to the amount of years it's been, and the progression they've made throughout their discography.
I would not say it was underrated in 1993-1994, though.
Every single one of my friends was listening to it, at the time, and the Sober video was widely praised for being so creatively weird.
The times they played near my hometown were always packed to the rafters, and even traveling 2-3 states away showed the same enthusiasm, from fans.
I can't speak for the coasts...LA and NYC, specifically...as I'm sure those locations were so oversaturated with live shows that people might not have had Tool in their consciousness, on the daily.
But definitely in smaller places, even this early in their career, these guys were loved in a way that not many bands could even aspire to be.
4 degrees is underrated
The quality in engineering really shines when you can pick up the nuances in Danny's dynamics on the toms!
This was my introduction to tool, my cousin gave this cd to me and it changed my standards of music, I was into nine inch nails a lot at the time and this album made me never miss another tool album. I think it is overlooked simply because of the progression of the band and how people hang on the next album that this one just simply was forgotten.
My cousin gave me Undertow for Christmas, but I already had it so I exchanged it for Sehnsucht.
Sylvia Massy produced and engineered both Opiate and Undertow. She's also done some engineering for Rick Rubin on some of the albums he's produced.
I alternate between this and Lateralus as my second favorite tool albums. I think Undertow is the best showcase of Maynard’s vocals in addition to being the most raw of their works. The emotion is all there
Undertow aenima lateralus all top tier opiate 10,000 days solid. Fear innoculum is possibly the most predictable and boring album amd after watching them live the other day I nearly fell asleep to the new songs. It seems every band Maynard is involved in for the last 5 years has become so bland
THANK YOU! Ive always thought undertow and 4° in particular was very over looked
As a tool fan since this album was released, I keep coming back to this album over the years, almost like a homecoming. Of all the tracks on Undertow, this song in particular, (looking back) seems to be the most forecasting of what was to come from tool. Over time it has become one of my favorite tool songs! Glad to have your perspective on it! Alllllright ! 🤙
undertow is a great album, it's where it all began for me, I was 25 then, I'll be 55 in July, and still a huge Fan, have you done bottom from said album. tool army est.1993
Heard Danny, paraphrasing, state he don't play the drums, he plays the song, genius, and I think the biggest part of why Tool is so successful. I love the overseas influence that Danny has.
one of my fav......and of course Danny 🙏
Slash's favorite album when released
This was my first Tool album, & I still love it! I sometimes fight myself, mentally, as to which is my total fav: Undertow, or Ænima. I love em both... But I think I'd still go with Undertow.
Thanks 4 this! 🤘🤘
Over the years I've self taught myself to sing with Maynard and my other highly revered vocal artists. The throat and or Adams apple must be relaxed. Talk the words in notes like you throw out your voice in conversation. The only thing I haven't mastered is breathing because I'm a smoker. But I can still do those long Maynard screams. I may see sparkles, but I get them out. Haha. It's not easy to become accustomed to doing letting your personal guards relax to create these powerfully resonate sounds escape you. The more you TRY to sing you fail. I just had to say this for myself. Good day.
Undertow was definitely a, "shot over the bow," at the rest of the rock music scene of the day."Flood" is one of the best album closers ever and 1 of my favorite TOOL songs.
BTW - the rectum is said to be an average of 4 degrees warmer than the rest of the body. Do with that what you want 😏
Undertow is always a great album to revisit. A lot of great songs and a great leap forward in terms of sound and production from Opiate. It also led to their commercial success with Sober, which still has one of my all time favorite bass intros. Also this song is about anal sex. A lot of great stuff on this album! Glad to see you again, Geebz!
Prison Sex? It's about abuse. Passing on the abuse you took to the next generation or your children and family.
Don't know if anal sex is the topic, but colonic irrigation was real big in the 90s and this song with its lyrics about flushing leads me to differ with your opinion. Agree to disagree.
Now Prison Sex is about just that. Maybe that's the song you're thinking of. 👍
Undertow was my first tool album, i always felt this track was one of the best on the album. So many cool things about this track.
Intolerance, Crawl Away and 4 Degrees are still in my every day rotation.....and I bought Undertow in 93, and I'm 56.....Filthy Guitar riff.....and Danny and Maynard are starting to show what is to come!
Several tracks from this album still stand out as some of their best work.
Love Undertow, there's an obvious So-Cal surf groove within this album
Great point!!! I hear it too......
This album came out when I was 14 and I bought it when I was 15... it will always be my favorite tool album not just because of the nostalgia (but I do have very vivid memories linked to listening to this album) but just because it was so unlike anything else at that time. Their other albums are good... but this one was good and totally unique. Plus getting a music video banned on MuchMusic (Canadian for MTV) even though it was claymation was another bonus to my teenage mind 😂
Undertow has long been my favorite Tool album because it was my introduction to them back in '93. From that first drop in to Intolerance, I was hooked like it was a drug.
Undertow is Tools Grunge album if it had to be put into a category. Its heavier but not all that different from what a band like Soundgarden was doing at the same point in time. They saw that they were definitely going to be put in the grunge box and decided to take the next 4 years between albums to find their sound
Great album. They went into an destroyed abandoned building and recorded sounds from hitting kicking banging whatever was there to record sounds for the album. This band is a vehicle for one of the best drummers ever. DANNY CAREY!!!
Just wandering through some Tool favorites of mine. You were so on point with with your interpretation. I don’t share my wealth of musical instruments, just an ear to listen. Good music & great observation. Thank you
I think Undertow is extremely underrated. This sparked me to throw the album on my turntable. It was one of the first albums I bought. Haven't listened in a long time. The evolution of Tool is so interesting to look at. From Opiate, which is SO raw, to where they are now is such a cool progression. And Undertow and Ænema are really the transitional bridge between that initial raw band to the more "refined" band we see today. And there are certain tracks like this that are precursors to the direction they've taken. But several tracks still have that raw quality as well.
For true Tool fans, I don't see how Undertow could be ignored.
Yes, it's very underrated and it's on par with all of the rest of the catalogue and better than Fear.
Back in early 90's I was still jamming cassettes. Friend of mine Paul would make Memorex 120 min recordings from CD's. Two of fav bands at the time were Frank Zappa & Tool, had no idea at the time the musical similarities between them. 😈🤘 Eventually got my own CD's still have them all, Great to have you back!!!
Glad to see your back. Your insight and expertise I'd something I value more then ever after only a few weeks watching the same old mind numbing so called reaction channels. Stay stoked and 🙏4 🏄♀️
Such a glorious album.
Yeah it's a very solid album! Undertow pulled me trough late teenage intensity and high-school drama. "Shit ads up at the bottom" and other thematic undercurrents made me reflect on humanity's dark sub-layers and how I was gonna do everything I could to contribute to beauty and spare our bottom floor of additional existential sludge.
Is it done? well, it seems I am not yet dead lol, so in the meantime: thanks for Your contribution! You are definitely doing beauty justice my friend :)
Reverse Puberty is now the name of my new Neo- Progressive- Grind- Noise- Electro-Bachata.
I love this album because it gets so incredibly dark with its lyrics. And a lot of the riffs just groove and move me in a way later albums never managed to.
The lyrical and spiritual growth of strictly Maynard over the years over all his works can be an intended guide to better understand all our individual and collective journeys. IMO.
Flood, Undertow, and Bottom are my favorites from this album. But it’s phenomenal the entire way through. I even appreciate Disgustipated. Part of the reason the drums sound so good is most of this album was recorded at Sound City with it’s freak show of a soundboard. Supposedly it was phenomenal for drum recordings.
OMG the sustains on Danny’s crash are delicious!
Hey Geebz, Undertow is a brilliant album. I’ve been listening to it since it was released in the early 90s. 'Sober' is one of my most favourite tracks ever! I don't think it's underrated, maybe a little forgotten considering Tool's discography. Cheers from Australia 🇦🇺
Whole album is fire!
I guess the engineer is part of the band in studio as the sound board guy live. I'm not a RHCP fan but the 99 Woodstock show audio over the radio was amazing!! Everyone else had the wind distorting the audio and idk what he did but it was crystal clear and sounded awesome!!