There seems to be a bit of confusion on what the slipper clutch actually does on a Traxxas model... The slipper clutch does not transfer power to the front, or proportion power in any way. the slipper clutch is simply there to protect your drivetrain from breakage. with. slipper clutch, the front and rear are locked together. (if you don't believe me, try backing your slipper clutch adjustment nut all the way off, then hold both wheels of one axle, either front or rear, with your hands, and try to push the other axle along with both wheels of it on a hard surface. it won't go.). when you have a slipper clutch, the only differential action of any kind is in your front and rear axle diffs. this is why a center diff is better for racing with high grip surfaces with lots of turns, your not scrubbing tires around a turn, they are allowed to turn at the different speed required when cornering, therefore, not sacrificing grip. If you are going to be driving on loose surfaces where wheel spin is going to happen all the time anyways, it's better to have both axles pulling all the time, as more torque will be applied to the ground. I don't know for sure that the center diff doesn't have some sort of slipper clutch system built into it as well to prevent drivetrain breakage, but it doesn't seem like it. that's why if you're gonna be bashing , or doing lots of jumps, you definitely want a slipper clutch to absorb the shock load on the drivetrain when the wheels hit the ground at full throttle. also keep in mind, with an open center diff, and open diffs front and rear axles, you can be down to one-wheel-drive in some cases (all three others have really high traction, while all the power goes to the one that's easiest to spin) an open diff splits torque 50/50 and the max amount of torque you can apply is limited by the amount of traction available to the wheel with the LEAST traction. it doesn't take very much torque to spin a tire freely in the air, so even if all three others are planted on good ground, they will all four only get as much torque as it takes to spin the one in the air.
If the center diff isn’t on the center drive shaft it’s not gonna send power front and back. I’m not familiar with the slash but my summit slipper is attacked to spur gear. Putting a differential there would just feed power to the transmission and do absolutely nothing except act as a locked slipper .
I think the center differential is your friend when bashing when one tire gets caught up, then either your 12mm hex gets stripped out, or your 38.00 badlands tire hex gets stripped out, snap your traxxas upgraded steel half axle, or burn out your plastic spur gear. I think there is a reason that arrma 6s cars have center differentials.
The center diff on the Traxxas is a bit of a weakness TBH - it's not designed for any abuse with it's plastic bearing point....you have to watch it every run, or you'll sacrifice an entire center diff. I'd always suggest running a slipper over a center diff when bashing
What do you think about using the Hoss center differential over the old slash one. I just ordered parts for pairing my slash center differential because the cover melted and the fluid just leaked out.
I found that the center diff wasn't the way to go for me racing. I pulled quicker lap times with the slipper clutch and it felt better. I have since upgraded to the BL Emaxx's bigger slipper system. The center diff sits in the bottom of my parts box to never be used again.
It varies depending on the surface. A well tuned slipper can do well. But like you probably seen, the Slash's center diff is an afterthought at best - all plastic housing that rides the bearing
Hi im making a crawler and I want to lock my diffs also I tow an rc boat trailer which diff do I lock and how do you do it ? With silly putty so I can take it out after
I don't jump my Rustler but am pretty hard on the acceleration. I drive mostly flat surfaces that include cement, sand, gravel, short grass. Could I still be safe installing a center diff. I am looking for tighter turns ( the tail end does spin out when turning) will this help?
ALL-GAMES-GAMER Buy a trail truck for off roading or even a crawler, a Slash isn't what you want to go off roading other than on pretty smooth terrain, it's not for hill climbing, try an Axial SCX10.
Well you won't get any serious off roading with a slash, it's not made to hill climb, it's made to go on a flattened terrain, not one with a lot of little rocks and what not.
Unlike other RUclips producers, I monitor my videos.......and am in the room, so no third party reference! lol The Slash is one of the easiest RC's to work on. 4 screws and the entire rear clip comes off.......Not much to explain.
I do alot of speed runs on pavement, some ripping around on gravel and a little bit of jumping. my slipper clutch has been nothing but a nightmare since going to 3s lipo. is a centre diff a good alternative for me? I own the slash 4x4 fox edition.
You're better off with the slipper. The Plastic bodied center diff will implode, especially on 3s. Take a look at the upgrade kit for the Traxxas Slash 4x4 slipper - It's just a few buck, but it allows the slipper end piece to ride on an aluminum race to the bearing instead of the stock plastic piece
Hey there, i have a slash 4x4 and i mainly run on the street and i noticed when i hit the gas the front wheels are off the ground and they are spinning like crazy. Would the center diff help against that? Thanks! -Patrick
***** It will help depending on the fluid you put in it. Just like the slipper, the tighter you make the slipper (and the heavier the oil) the less amount of power gets transfered to the front. Center diffs help with racing applications, especially in turns. Be careful running the CD, it has an issue with the bearing melting the plastic diff housing (Especially if running on 3s)
I'm confused... The bearing with the triangle end on my splipper clutch doesn;t fit on the center diff... I dont see any other bearing.. And there was no bearing in the center diff? Where does the bearing on yours come from?
I don't know that there would be a correct answer......You can pretty much make any car/truck drift with the right power and control. I would bet the center diff would work better though
To be honest, the stock slipper clutch is easier to adjust on the fly and is more durable than the Traxxas Center Diff. You can also upgrade ($5 part) the plastic coned piece that the slipper rides on the motor mount bearing. You can do this with the stock center diff. I ended up upgrading to the FLM aluminum center diff to combat that
JJMMAN2002 Unfortunately, I haven't owned a 2wd Slash before.......but I'm sure there's a way to lock it, but why would you want to? The rear diff is crucial in how your truck performs on both dirt and street. Locking it would drastically reduce how well it turns
The bearing should be attached to the slipper clutch on your truck. When you start disassembling, you see it on the slipper. I showed two bearings just for demo
I know this is old and I'm a real noob and this sounds stupid but can you lock it for rock crawling and can you use it on a stampede I have the 4x4 one?
I would like to try to either make my pede a trail truck and I have a rc boat trailer what would be better for towing it? The diff in the video or a slipper clutch????? So many questions
YOu're probably better with the slipper clutch....You can lock it all the way down, but it can possible still "slip" The center diff that's available for the Pede/Slash/Rally is a terrible design, as it rides on a plastic race that's built into the cup of the diff - It was clearly an afterthought.
thanks for the early response but anyways so if i completely tighten my slipper clutch i should be able to get better grip while towing my trailer (i have my clutch untightened 3 quarter turns counter clockwise if that make sense and its great for driving but when i launch and retrieve my boat from the water i get terrible traction thats why i wanted a diff and lock it) so anyways if i tightened it all the way i should get better traction or should i un tighten it and will i get better traction???? cuze i know if you have the slipper clutch unloosened a bit you will spin your tires and it will slip and gain traction.
Not faster, more tunable. If you're bashing, keep the slipper, if you're racing, the center diff is better for turning/cornering and highly tunable via the viscosity of oil
The slipper is better! The center diff has no slipper and won't differentiate enough to save the drive train from stress when bashing and jumping and what not,or even full throttle starts or hard braking.
Horrible idea...slippers have way more tunability! Odds are most ppl will try to lock their center diff anyway. Slipper is basically a locked diff. If center diffs were better manufactures wouldn’t be making diffs with built in slippers
Hi im making a crawler and I want to lock my diffs also I tow an rc boat trailer which diff do I lock and how do you do it ? With silly putty so I can take it out after
Crawler out of a slash? well, if you must, lock the rear diff first....tighten the center slipper completely down and see how the performance is.....then do the front
There seems to be a bit of confusion on what the slipper clutch actually does on a Traxxas model...
The slipper clutch does not transfer power to the front, or proportion power in any way. the slipper clutch is simply there to protect your drivetrain from breakage. with. slipper clutch, the front and rear are locked together. (if you don't believe me, try backing your slipper clutch adjustment nut all the way off, then hold both wheels of one axle, either front or rear, with your hands, and try to push the other axle along with both wheels of it on a hard surface. it won't go.). when you have a slipper clutch, the only differential action of any kind is in your front and rear axle diffs. this is why a center diff is better for racing with high grip surfaces with lots of turns, your not scrubbing tires around a turn, they are allowed to turn at the different speed required when cornering, therefore, not sacrificing grip. If you are going to be driving on loose surfaces where wheel spin is going to happen all the time anyways, it's better to have both axles pulling all the time, as more torque will be applied to the ground.
I don't know for sure that the center diff doesn't have some sort of slipper clutch system built into it as well to prevent drivetrain breakage, but it doesn't seem like it. that's why if you're gonna be bashing , or doing lots of jumps, you definitely want a slipper clutch to absorb the shock load on the drivetrain when the wheels hit the ground at full throttle.
also keep in mind, with an open center diff, and open diffs front and rear axles, you can be down to one-wheel-drive in some cases (all three others have really high traction, while all the power goes to the one that's easiest to spin) an open diff splits torque 50/50 and the max amount of torque you can apply is limited by the amount of traction available to the wheel with the LEAST traction. it doesn't take very much torque to spin a tire freely in the air, so even if all three others are planted on good ground, they will all four only get as much torque as it takes to spin the one in the air.
Jose Ybarra thank you very much for all that information!
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I searched everywhere for an explanation like this and I randomly watch this video and I see it commented so perfectly ..! Thank you ..!
If the center diff isn’t on the center drive shaft it’s not gonna send power front and back. I’m not familiar with the slash but my summit slipper is attacked to spur gear. Putting a differential there would just feed power to the transmission and do absolutely nothing except act as a locked slipper .
Wrong. @@JoshSmith-ud1ij
I think the center differential is your friend when bashing when one tire gets caught up, then either your 12mm hex gets stripped out, or your 38.00 badlands tire hex gets stripped out, snap your traxxas upgraded steel half axle, or burn out your plastic spur gear. I think there is a reason that arrma 6s cars have center differentials.
The center diff on the Traxxas is a bit of a weakness TBH - it's not designed for any abuse with it's plastic bearing point....you have to watch it every run, or you'll sacrifice an entire center diff. I'd always suggest running a slipper over a center diff when bashing
What do you think about using the Hoss center differential over the old slash one. I just ordered parts for pairing my slash center differential because the cover melted and the fluid just leaked out.
I finally got the king headz motor mount for my slash 4x4 platinum. it's built so nice
+ULTiMATE TRAXXAS MAN yes, it helps make the Slash tolerable
The RCNetwork yea. I can feel it when I drive it. It feels like I get more power to the wheels with it
You done a great job with this video. No excess chatter, didnt have to watch trivial teardowns. Quick vid!
Ruffcutt Rawlins thanks RR, I appreciate the great comments!
I have a full set of Avids ready to go. I will run the stockers first though
Thanks Rich!
And thanks I actully didn't know it would reduce how we'll it turns so maybe I won't lock it
Hey Rich, how about a high grip astroturf surface. Do I run with or without the center differential? Hope to hear from you. 👍👊
+Petrol Head probably worth the slipper.....the Astro will tea that center diff up
Love the way that this project is slowly coming together
On the center diff, is that a bearing or what because my center diff doesn't have that so it doesn't work and the slipper clutch doesn't fit so......
I found that the center diff wasn't the way to go for me racing. I pulled quicker lap times with the slipper clutch and it felt better. I have since upgraded to the BL Emaxx's bigger slipper system. The center diff sits in the bottom of my parts box to never be used again.
It varies depending on the surface. A well tuned slipper can do well. But like you probably seen, the Slash's center diff is an afterthought at best - all plastic housing that rides the bearing
Does the mount eliminate the driveshaft wobble 🤔
Hi im making a crawler and I want to lock my diffs also I tow an rc boat trailer which diff do I lock and how do you do it ? With silly putty so I can take it out after
Nice video!! What drive shafts are you running?
if you slip work what doesn't have the pads will your car still run our move
I don't jump my Rustler but am pretty hard on the acceleration. I drive mostly flat surfaces that include cement, sand, gravel, short grass. Could I still be safe installing a center diff. I am looking for tighter turns ( the tail end does spin out when turning) will this help?
I'd stick with the slipper in your case
Really nice vids man.
Well the reason why I won't too lock it is cuse I like to do a lot of off roading and hill climbing but with an unlocked diff I only get half the torc
ALL-GAMES-GAMER Buy a trail truck for off roading or even a crawler, a Slash isn't what you want to go off roading other than on pretty smooth terrain, it's not for hill climbing, try an Axial SCX10.
Uber Fansworth yea i want to but cant fork out dat cash
Well you won't get any serious off roading with a slash, it's not made to hill climb, it's made to go on a flattened terrain, not one with a lot of little rocks and what not.
Unlike other RUclips producers, I monitor my videos.......and am in the room, so no third party reference! lol
The Slash is one of the easiest RC's to work on. 4 screws and the entire rear clip comes off.......Not much to explain.
is the center diff going to break easier when bashing? i kinda want it just because i want to upgrade everything on my slash lok
Yep, the center diff will implode while bashing...stick to the slipper
The RCNetwork i dont really see the point in having it then haha, can a slash really compete with real racing kits?
I do alot of speed runs on pavement, some ripping around on gravel and a little bit of jumping. my slipper clutch has been nothing but a nightmare since going to 3s lipo. is a centre diff a good alternative for me? I own the slash 4x4 fox edition.
You're better off with the slipper. The Plastic bodied center diff will implode, especially on 3s. Take a look at the upgrade kit for the Traxxas Slash 4x4 slipper - It's just a few buck, but it allows the slipper end piece to ride on an aluminum race to the bearing instead of the stock plastic piece
The RCNetwork if I was to switch to a centre diff I'd use the aluminum flm one that you made a video on.
Hey there, i have a slash 4x4 and i mainly run on the street and i noticed when i hit the gas the front wheels are off the ground and they are spinning like crazy. Would the center diff help against that?
Thanks!
-Patrick
***** It will help depending on the fluid you put in it. Just like the slipper, the tighter you make the slipper (and the heavier the oil) the less amount of power gets transfered to the front. Center diffs help with racing applications, especially in turns. Be careful running the CD, it has an issue with the bearing melting the plastic diff housing (Especially if running on 3s)
The RCNetwork Sounds good, thanks for the help!
If i get that i have to change some other things to use it?
Nope, it should bolt right in
I'm confused... The bearing with the triangle end on my splipper clutch doesn;t fit on the center diff... I dont see any other bearing.. And there was no bearing in the center diff? Where does the bearing on yours come from?
Yeah, mine doesn't have a bearing on the shaft end, and that causes it to jitter on takeoff, and I have to give it a bit of a push start
if your slippers clutch does not have to pads will your car still move forward
Yes, but it won't transfer power correctly from front to rear
so if i wanted to drift my slash 4x4 would a center diff be better than a slipper clutch?
I don't know that there would be a correct answer......You can pretty much make any car/truck drift with the right power and control. I would bet the center diff would work better though
Thanks Luca, it's growing on me too!
why is slipper clutch better for bashing?.I have slash 4x4 w/center diff now should I change it out..thanks
To be honest, the stock slipper clutch is easier to adjust on the fly and is more durable than the Traxxas Center Diff. You can also upgrade ($5 part) the plastic coned piece that the slipper rides on the motor mount bearing. You can do this with the stock center diff. I ended up upgrading to the FLM aluminum center diff to combat that
The RCNetwork thanks so i would hav to buy a bering
Hi I have a slash 2 wheel drive is there a way I can lock the diff so my tires don't just stop if there is even a little more resistance on 1 of them?
JJMMAN2002 Unfortunately, I haven't owned a 2wd Slash before.......but I'm sure there's a way to lock it, but why would you want to? The rear diff is crucial in how your truck performs on both dirt and street. Locking it would drastically reduce how well it turns
My slash platinum didnt come with the bearing for the diff only the diff itself how do i get the bearing off the blue thibg
The bearing should be attached to the slipper clutch on your truck. When you start disassembling, you see it on the slipper. I showed two bearings just for demo
ya but how do you get it off the blue aluminum part
It's a matter of wiggling it off.
ok
which one is better for racing
Center Diff is better. Better in the corners and over all performance.
I know this is old and I'm a real noob and this sounds stupid but can you lock it for rock crawling and can you use it on a stampede I have the 4x4 one?
I would like to try to either make my pede a trail truck and I have a rc boat trailer what would be better for towing it? The diff in the video or a slipper clutch????? So many questions
YOu're probably better with the slipper clutch....You can lock it all the way down, but it can possible still "slip" The center diff that's available for the Pede/Slash/Rally is a terrible design, as it rides on a plastic race that's built into the cup of the diff - It was clearly an afterthought.
thanks for the early response but anyways so if i completely tighten my slipper clutch i should be able to get better grip while towing my trailer (i have my clutch untightened 3 quarter turns counter clockwise if that make sense and its great for driving but when i launch and retrieve my boat from the water i get terrible traction thats why i wanted a diff and lock it) so anyways if i tightened it all the way i should get better traction or should i un tighten it and will i get better traction???? cuze i know if you have the slipper clutch unloosened a bit you will spin your tires and it will slip and gain traction.
Sweet
Thanks Jason!
Good stuff man :o)
+BushmanofYukon Thanks BoY!
Whats the blue aluminium part at 1:55?
Hey bud you need to make your own comments above so I don't get emails from someone I don't know ;o)
What is better or faster diff or slipper
Race=Diff, bash=slipper
Soooo it makes it faster??
Not faster, more tunable. If you're bashing, keep the slipper, if you're racing, the center diff is better for turning/cornering and highly tunable via the viscosity of oil
Thanks for the 1st!
Thanks JM13
The slipper is better! The center diff has no slipper and won't differentiate enough to save the drive train from stress when bashing and jumping and what not,or even full throttle starts or hard braking.
Like I said in the video, slipper is for bashing and the center diff is for racing
1st lolz
Horrible idea...slippers have way more tunability! Odds are most ppl will try to lock their center diff anyway. Slipper is basically a locked diff. If center diffs were better manufactures wouldn’t
be making diffs with built in slippers
That's a false, ghost rider.....The tunability of a proper differential with fluid is endless. Traxxas makes a terrible diff for the Slash though, TBH
Hi im making a crawler and I want to lock my diffs also I tow an rc boat trailer which diff do I lock and how do you do it ? With silly putty so I can take it out after
Crawler out of a slash? well, if you must, lock the rear diff first....tighten the center slipper completely down and see how the performance is.....then do the front
wow sorry lol im making my stamepede and i have a 35 turn motor and it crawls actually prettyy good