Slipper Clutch Maintenance and Troubleshooting
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- Опубликовано: 8 июл 2020
- Many Traxxas models feature an adjustable slipper clutch, which regulates the amount of power sent to the drive wheels. Follow these tips when troubleshooting or performing maintenance on the slipper clutch. Learn more at traxxas.com
Finally a video on Slipper clutch maintenance its been many years of waiting.
Waiting? Why didn't you figure out yourself
@@tomv3361 i do but im saying is good they released a video on it for others.
Thanks Traxxas! Love your products! Hope you all have a great day!
I needed this so bad! My bandit vxl is having issues. I’ve learned everything about it. Worked on everything from the chassis/tires up.
Glad it helped out. Keep having fun with your Bandit VXL!
I think I just found the answer as to why my mini eREVO is a bit slower than my buddies. His is just a bit faster than mine and I now can have an option to see if it can be remedied! This is awesome!
I'm so glad your back it felt like sooo long
I don't even have a traxxas any more but I love these videos keep it up.
Although this is different than Traxxas suggests as far as traction & slipper clutch set up goes, living in Michigan & running in the snow with paddle tires is so much fun...Wouldn't I want to tighten slipper clutch for snow? You need the wheel spin & power to the tires NOW, you're not looking for traction. Is this thinking correct?
Additionally something to consider if having slipper clutch issues, I just encountered this myself & I'm almost certain the problem started a yr ago...Here goes (keep in mind I maintain my RC's every time I run them...complete clean);
My neighbors 10 yr old son wanted to drive my slash ultimate 4x4, I told him he had to be very careful & handed him the remote. Before I could set the ESC to training mode I was distracted by his dad coming outside & talking to me. Next thing I realize is the car going wide open up the driveway & by the time I turned to see it & say anything...BAM!!! Complete stop right under front tire of dads parked truck. Cracked chassis, broken steering servo, drive shaft all kinds of bent up & other misc. damage.
When I swapped out chassis I of course looked everything over closely, everything with slipper, pinion & differential all spun smoothly & seemed fine. After I put it back together & it was reassembled correctly, it just never had the same "pop" it had before. It wasn't quite as fast & didn't seem as quick off the start. No weird noises. Mesh was fine. I would adjust the slipper a little here & there, nothing would get it running like it did before, it ran maybe 85% of what it did before the accident. I ran it a couple of times in the snow last winter, maybe 2/3 batteries worth & didn't have a chance to run it at all this yr, until a week ago with a buddy that has the same RC. After about 10 minutes it wouldn't hardly move & it wouldn't allow me to tighten slipper at all.
Took it home & took the rear apart, all the way down to the differential. Slipper pads looked brand new & everything seemed fine. I finally noticed the bearing in the Spur Gear wasn't all there, the center part that houses the ball bearings was missing & that's when I noticed shrapnel here & there. So I cleaned everything up, removed the outer ring of bearing that was still housed in the Spur Gear, went to Hobby shop & purchased new bearing. Got home, put it back together & adjusted the slipper 3/4 turns out before re-assembly, threw a battery in it & wouldn't hardly move. Slipper was slipping bad & you could smell the pads like when someone smokes a clutch on a real car. I was dumbfounded & of course pissed! I knew I put everything back together correctly. So there I am taking the slipper back out...tightening & loosening the spring nut in my hand didn't seem to be compressing the pads together like it should've...again I'm pissed and confused, it should've worked just fine! When I was about to throw it through the wall, I removed the spring & nut, pulling it back apart & that's when I noticed the problem that I didn't catch earlier. The very center of exploded bearing was between pads & pressure plate not allowing them to compress together.
I removed it, adjusted it to 3/4 turns out again, put it back together & she's a flying again!!
Moral of the story...when neighbor crashed it & I put back on a new chassis, I think the force of the crash had driven the slipper too hard into that bearing & started the breakdown & I didn't know to look at that when examining the damage. It's the little small things we need to pay the most attention to, details, the Devil is in the details.
Sorry for the long story, but had I read something like this while researching my problem, it would've been a huge help and saved me alot of time. If this helps one person, great. If not & you want to tell me to gth...that's cool too. Either way, God Bless...Drive Fast & Take Chances!
If only I saw this comment earlier, pretty much the exact same thing happened to me but I had a traxxas rustler 4x4 VXL, the remote just cut out with me and I was going 78kph with the and yes I know the speed because I have the complete TQI telemetry system installed so I can see the current exact speed, rpm, power/voltage and temperature, but anyway it just completely cut out when I was going at that speed and flew right into a drain, it was a real struggle to get out because it was really wedged in there with the upgraded suspension making it more difficult to take out, there were broken parts everywhere down the drain on the road and on the grass of the owners place, got everything out and all the upgrades I’ve done to it you could quite literally say was money down the drain, but it costed me a bomb, hundreds of dollars so many parts replaced, suspension, cracked wheels, drive shaft, chassis, the whole servo system, the esc turned on and was flashing but didn’t do anything else, the motor had cut wired and it all fell completely apart, 3 out of 4 suspension arms, the cover obviously, front bumper, steering block, just so many parts and probably way more but that’s all the parts I ordered in just the first first receipt and is the only receipt I can find at the moment, yet I have no clue how but the 3s lipo battery I was using I really have absolutely no clue but it still worked after, yet replaced everything spend soooo many hours on it and I had the same problem as you, I tried all kinds of different lipo batteries and even went to nimh but there so weak I found out, so I ended up just going to use it for parts and bought a new one, kinda wish I bought an Xmaxx or a Maxx because I really wanted to but thought if I crash my new one I could use the parts, long story short I just saw your comment and I got soooo scared because I’ve spent so much extra money on it and yet I had the same issue as you, but I now have 2 working traxxas rustlers 4x4 VXL’s with a lot of extra parts, the telemetry was still perfectly fine so I still use that but yeah, you don’t know how much you helped me though, the simplest little thing I should of checked more carefully and closely, thank you so much though I got it working again, I might let my brother use it and race it with me when we’re at the rc track now instead of him using his small slash, I said it a lot already but I really mean it, thank you so much, you’ve helped me heaps getting it working again
I like this story because as a enthusiastic mechanic gearhead I tell similar stories of a frustrating and unique diagnostic troubleshooting and repair.
Thank you so much! This could have saved me so much trouble if I had watched this before.
I just Purchased a Traxxas Ruster 4x4 VXL with Traxxas Completer pack with 2S lipo plenty of power. Later will upgrade to 3s but first adjust the slipper clutch after few runs.
Thank you I needed this
To learn the noise, have someone lock both tires with a normal but slightly loose clutch, then floor it for a VERY short period if time, that squeal you hear is the clutch activating.
Thank you for the information!
I like my Bandit. I also noticed some drill planetarium gears work way longer being high grade carbide steel .🤐
For the HCG 4x4 models there should be an access hatch under the chassis to adjust the slipper. Having to remove the whole back end of the truck and then "guess" at your adjustment is really poor engineering on your part Traxxas. I know it's only four screws but it still makes a simple adjustment more complicated and time consuming then it needs to be.
I just got the E revo , nitro conversion , I am trying to set it up with a Spektrum dx5c tx and a 6 ch rx. Not having much luck. What steps should I be taking to connect this up? Thanks
Hi traxxas love the traxxas maxx
Thanks for this traxxas
When can I tell my slipper clutch is worn out because I'm hearing this squeal every time the car hard accelerated and my slipper plate has these scorch Mark?
Now
Thanks! now I can do wheelies with my slash 4x4.
Do you guys sell or recommend any rc launch ramps?
My spring att is bent or something, so my spurgear wobbles a bit and wears it out because of it. :(
Love traxxas but I genuinely think they should come up with a much more simple, reliable, user friendly and maintainance free system for their cars, this slipper clutch system they have on the slash, rustler and bandit line ups is waaaay to archaic and messy.
U can get a kit to remove slipper and run without one. Or u can tighten it up and acts like it’s not there.
Yeah I’m completely confused right now
I agree. The Traxxas slipper lets down the whole vehicle.
Thank you 🙏🏼
I can’t really do a full throttle start because it just flips over
Haha same
Lol. My cheap 2wd *BRUSHED* stampede will just rip a wheelie or do a backflip!
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Loosen the clutch
Adjust your slipper lol. Also learn throttle control.
When will be traxxas trx 4 Landover defender on stock?
I installed my own but had it too loose and didn't know till know
Thanks for the vid i fixed mine
Glad we could help
how do I know when the slipper pads and the spur gear are centered? I put them back together, trying my best to center, but now I think it's more high pitched under acceleration than before
Me too.
Tighten the slipper.
What music is in this video?
My spur looks a little lob sided Is it going to be okay
how about diff i just got a new c10 drag slash and the diff is leaking new right out of the box i can take it back but there all on back order
My slash sounds like it's screaming but I've replaced the spur gear multiple times, any suggestions?
My slipper was making a clicking scratching noise but when I tighten it up it sounds normal again any ideas?
So I can adjust with just a wrench without removing it? I have a rustler 4x4 vxl
Slipper delete and locked diff for off road 👌🏻
What happend if i got my clutch so hot that it melted thread locker
Just what is need
Also lastly to add i can adjust the slipper clutch on my Ruster 4x4 vxl while in still installed the rc?
I know I’m a little late to the comment but yes you can adjust it in the car.
Thankss!! Awesome vid, actually thought my motor was broken haha now fixing this my car drives
First one and great video traxxas love your videos and your traxxas cars
When you notice a burnt clutch smell its too loose then ? Local hobby shop set it this way… full throttle but barely power with a vxl
Does the Slayer Pro have the spring as well? Mine didn’t come with one
I’m thinking it might be a center differential or just a non alignment slipper clutch.
Please help! I’ve had a my Slash 4x4 Brushless for about 6 months now. Should I and how should I maintain it?
The least you should do id to lubricate the moving parts with something like wd-40
Drive it till it breaks. Fix it. Learn.
Repeat as necessary.
Never use wd40 unless it’s to get rid of rust, it dissolves grease.
Finally Traxxas, You Slackin, and get Amain my parts.
It's not their fault there's a pandemic.
Speak English...
@@MixZTitaniumDubstep Yeah I fully understand but its getting ridiculous, It's been 3 months without my 3 Aluminium Upgrades. Other companies like protek and rpm are keeping up now.
i thout my car was broken when i got it. but it was just that slipper cluths was all the way loose
When I tightened my slipper clutch it fried my gears
I can't really tune the clutch on my slash bc it just wheelies and dies
I don't see how that involves tuning the clutch
So my slash 4x4 1/10 scale when I accelerate there seems to be a a delay before the car starts to drive and there seems to be missing power and the pinion gear seems to be spinning faster than the car should be moving. Is that a slipper clutch problem
The set screw on your pinion may be starting to come loose. If that doesn't fix it, try recalibrating the speed controller.
U get it figured out Zach? Sounds like the slipper is slipping. Tighten it up and try it out.
Hey can you do a video on some Traxxas 4 tech 2.0 vxl upgrades
Does traxxas respond??
What’s the right size battery for the old school Traxxas Truck?
Probably 6-cell NiMH, or 2S LiPo if it has LiPo protection.
Specify a bit more
I installed the rebuild kit shown in this video (5352r) and no matter how much I tighten it keeps coming loose. Now my motor is sounding weird
The motor berings might be shot.
I have a traxxas slash 2wd vxl and my slipper clutch appears to be coming lose every time i drive it. Why would this be?
Thanks
U figure it out? Pull it apart and inspect it. Is it put together properly? Pieces missing or worn.
I lost my little pin that goes to the slipper clutch on my 2wd rustler can anyone send me the link to buy the rebuild kit thanks🙏
The rebuild kit is part number 5552X. Any hobby shop that sells Traxxas parts usually has it in stock or is able to order it easily.
Yeah I have problems once I place my car and the floor the car won't move but if I hold it it moves fines ? Any tips
Did u figure it out?
Tighten slipper clutch.
Ck pinion gear is tight on motor.
@@duramaxdad yeah thanks 👍
Can someone please help me, a volt fell out that holds the left tire steering arm to the sevo so it can turn but it fell out the left tire won't turn, what is that bolt called so I can order one
Louden is awesome i dont know but you can look at a build chart of take it to a hobby store and ask
Go online and look at the parts diagram
Can you specify a bit more? And what model. I can probably help you
About God dam time Traxxas lmao
I need a video on the erevo 2.0 brushless can't find it
The E-Revo 2.0 doesn't have a slipper clutch. It uses what Traxxas calls the "cush drive".
I have no idea why they call it that, but it's funny if you get my reference.
Here’s a little fun fact Traxxas didn’t actually come out with a Cush drive. They were just the first to put in RC cars.
Why cant i take it all the way out on a 2 wheel drive
What should you lubricate it with?
Bearings need grease. Pinion and spur gears don’t usually get lube. Ck for lube? if it had it from factory apply as needed.
so does tightening make more tire spin or less?
Less
Tightening causes more tire spin because when the slipper is tighter, it can't absorb as much energy from the motor and thus more gets transferred to the wheels
So for a traxxas slash 4x4 I have to keep taking the back off to adjust it cause there is no other way
Hey Jake, no you don't, you just need to take the rear end off if you want to access the whole assembly. A simple adjustment is done very easily...go to :35 in the video. Your post was 4 months ago, I'd imagine you've figured that out by now, if not, hope this helps you bud.
@@ghpjerry thank you. Also do you need to adjust the slipper clutch when using a LIPO battery
@@jakeletourneau4062 You may want to adjust it if you're switching from a mellow 2s to a powerful 3s, also depending on the surface you're driving on. Example: If I take mine to the indoor carpet track, we can only run 2s there & the carpet has excellent traction, so you would want to loosen it a bit for better driving. Then say tomorrow you go out bashing on dirt, you'll want to tighten it a bit depending on your battery. You can hear the difference between too loose & too tight. It's not a dramatic change though, maybe a half turn here or there. Hope this helps you.
@@ghpjerry k thank you. Also last one if you are using a LIPO battery and the battery is drained/out of battery if you are going to charge it in store mode should you do that when it’s out of battery??
@@jakeletourneau4062 No worries bud! Always a good idea to do a "Store" mode, either after running it out of power or breaking the car 5 minutes into running it & you're not going to fix it right away.
👍👍👍 from france
finally I know why my slash 2wd has a clicking sound
That’s probably not your slipper. Most likely the diff or mesh
I had clicking due to small junk in the spur gear teeth, check for that... poke them out with a pin. Be careful, the spur gear is plastic, don't scratch it up too much.
1:46 what if you do?
It works like a locked clutch at that point. Everything will be fine. U get max power. It may break parts like axles, pinion, spur gears. But it’s worth it too me.
Traxxas!!!!
My stampede has a tight slipper clutch and it has no problems...
I mean, so does mine, but I typically don't floor the throttle.
Depending on where you run, a tighter slipper can be helpful.
Does this Include the 8s XMaxx?
The video itself: no.
The info you need to know to adjust the clutch in most Traxxas vehicles, including the almighty X-Maxx: yes.
The 8s X-Maxx doesn’t have a slipper clutch. The 6s version does. The 8s has the Cush drive and Torque-Biasing center drive.
No. Xmaxx has a crush drive. They’re not really adjustable
Many.... I think all do
Can you adjust it by feel? Like if you hold 1 side still should you be able to make it slip?
So I have been adjusting them this way for almost 10 years. Get it to where I barely can’t slip em by hand.
If it’s too tight your car will accelerate without slip. Too loose and car won’t accelerate quickly just slip and motor revs very high.
I’ll try the 1/2 3/4 backed off from full tight.
Why do all the bolts back out of my slash and fall out
Are the bolts going into aluminum? If so, adding a bit of blue Locktite before installation will hold them in place. If they're going into plastic, you might've stripped out the thread.
Lol that’s kinda easy to troubleshoot
Man Who's Been Shpongled spot on explanation 👍
@@diegobotello9982 thanks!
Cool but why you guys don’t show the xo1
You seriously expect them to show all of the models in one video? Isn't the ones they shown as an example enough?
Soul-Struck yeah but they show the same cars is not the only one they have my friend
Why does it matter? They like to show they’re new models probably cause of marketing purposes
Diego Botello really there is nothing new just color I have a few of this cars new and old nothing changes
The X0-1 doesn’t have a slipper clutch it has a Cush drive that you don’t adjust.
Is that why my drivefshats break every 2 days?
Is your slipper clutch too tight? Might be why
Possibly. Another factor to also consider is where you drive. Loose dirt has a lot more "give" than solid concrete and as a result is easier on the driveline.
Tbh the stock plastic driveshaft are a major weak spot.
SO THATS WHY MY DIFF BROKE
I don’t think that would cause your diff to go out. If your slipper was bad then that means it wasn’t sending power to the trans properly... you might have some other problem bro
But let's not talk about the roll pin on the slipper shaft that constantly breaks.
Traxxas has an upgrade part available to fix that problem, part number 9494.
It's a new top shaft assembly with the 22-tooth top gear. It was originally made for the magnum 272R transmission but is also backwards compatible with the standard magnum 272 transmission.
HOW MUCH IS "SLIGHTLY" !?
IT DOES NOT HELP.
Do erevos have slipper too?
I am not sure, but i think the center differential is the instead of a slipper clutch.
Pretty sure they do bro. Both 1st and 2nd gen
No slipper on the e revo
No. Center differential.
The 1st gen E-Revo has a slipper, the 2nd gen does not.
Oh I did not do this at all 😅
Also the 4wd models... I BARELY tightens it AT ALL take the shaft out and save your time
Not really. I just hold wrench on it and turn the rear wheels
Can we have nitro content plz
First comment love traxxas
Hi pls reply
Hi
Thank you for watching!
Omg they replied, thank you this video really helped, I got new tires for my Stampede 2wd and it got a lot more grip, therefore breaking both of my driveshafts, so I had to adjust this and it worked, thank you so much 🙏
They change the voice again
I've got a bone in my foot
I do what is recommend and way too lose
I collapse the spring and loosen 1/8 turns to get my desired setup
my clutch completely loosens after one run. might need a need one.....
I’m going to say that it sounds like the nut for the clutch has worn out
@@lesmawson7298 the entire clutch assembly was new though. well i fixed it by grinding down the inside of the clutch pad, after finding out that it was actually contacing only like 10% of the clutch gear. works fine now
First
What is supposed to be a fun activity is nothing but an expensive, complicated nightmare of a headache! I don't even want my car anymore. Garbage.
Totally infuriating! What a joke of a setup
Best way to fix anything on a traxxas is throw it in the trash and get a good rc car
Not true
Not true at all.
@@bransonreed9050 over priced junk
@@markoftheus over priced garbage
Magnetic clutch way better. These are garbage on purpose.
Which vehicle are you running? Magnetic clutch? Have a link? Thanks.
@@flhandster4395 the one I use it just super downscaled. I watched a bunch of YT and printed a semi durable one. The ones in the vids were way bigger I just made mine smaller.
@@IzzySpeaks But, what do you mean by a magnetic clutch? Which vehicle?
The worst brand possibly buy runs good for a day and something else goes wrong on it better off going with x-ray Parts are made so cheaply
Junk. Junk. Junk.....toy grade lol
And since when did toy grade have a slipper clutch?
@@MixZTitaniumDubstep So your defending their crap...
@@jeffkinsey3801 toy grades are lucky if they have gearing. Traxxas doesn't produce complete crap, but there are better and worse things out there
Bruh do you know what you’re saying?
Bryson Kuhn exactly