Great episode Ryan! I love what Blackmagic is doing for independent film. When you combine their hardware with their software, professional quality results have never been more accessible for regular working class filmmakers. They've had Adobe on its toes more and more with their continual improvements to Resolve, and now Canon and Sony are feeling the heat as well. Love it.
I’m a Nikon stills shooter looking at this camera for videography. What lenses will I need to buy for this camera? Or can I use any kind of adapter so I can fit Nikkor lenses? Thanks in advance.
Dang, the built in ND filters might be a selling point for me. I was going to get the normal 6K already, but ND's are well worth the price increase for on the go filming.
Especially bc you're going to have to buy them anyways for your lenses. And if you buy good ones you easyly spend more. Same with the extra batteries that you'd have to buy going with the normal one. Still need them, but not as many. You're probably saving some money in the long term
Would it make a difference though? They're still in steps, so it's likely you'll never be shooting at native ISO outdoors without lighting and modifiers.
Totally. A good set of NDs is already more than the difference between the regular 6K and the 6K pro. Plus the better battery and swivel screen are an opus upgrades. This was a great move by blackmagic.
To be honest I have seen some reviews already popping up of the ND filters having decent tints, the higher the stop the higher the tint, which indicates that the ND filters are not as high quality as some claim.
I've been WAITING for this review! Every time I bought a new camera, I always watched Film Riot's review first. Been a fan since 2015. Y'all never stop being amazing!
I see lots of people wishing for IBIS, but I think it’s important to note that you’d also be sacrificing some things by incorporating that. With most “cinema” cameras it is often assumed you will be doing your own stabilization, and cameras with IBIS often have issues using these forms of stabilization. For example, adding IBIS makes it unusable as a crash cam in cars due to the micro jitters and jello. IBIS also makes it more difficult to fit internal NDs into the camera body. As usual, I think it comes down to what tool works best for what you’re doing.
If rather have IBIS than internal ND tbh, i can always screw on a variable ND to a lens and use step up rings. i love being able to move a camera handheld and know it will be smooth
I just don't get this IBIS need. No, no thank you. I can use my body or just heavier setup and slowmotion to make it "shake free" or just get OIS lens. I think people who request this are certainly not experienced or really have the need for this camera. Same for continuous AF, I'd love it, but it's not truly needed. All it would do is add unnecessary costs ..
@@marcuscisneros8528 just use your body, I don't want anything correcting my image unless I choose to. Additionally, IRNDs are great for run and gun or times where you simply do not have time on shoot schedule to be messing with matte boxes and screw ons. I think IBIS is rather amateur request considering there is pleathora of ways to combat it. If anything for solo run and gun shooters AF would be better, but then maybe the cinema line isn't really what you are looking for.
@@kolecava slowmo just for sake of "stabilizing" - that is amateur. Anyway, all those features improve the filming process and make it more accessible. There's no point of saying "cinema cameras don't have IBIS and AF, and that's it". Like you're not pro if requesting that. Like it's some kind of religious burden "pros" must carry for some magical reason. Bullshit! Everything is changing. If focus pullers and dollies, gimbals, and steadicams won't be needed anymore at some point - that will be a huge relief and a big step forward.
Love the review. Just jumped from my Sony a6300 to the BMPCC4K and absolutely loving it. It's been a long time coming but always felt like it would be impossible to get a Sony that wouldn't be out of date in a year and the BlackMagic just feels better when shooting.
this is quite incredible. recently talked to a DP that shot on the alexa mini for over six years: he said, no one can tell a difference between the pocket's and the alexa's image. and he was only talking about the standard 6k version then
Nice upgrades all around (what the original 6K should have been), but the biggest misstep for me is the EF-mount. RF would made it MUCH more versatile and worth upgrading from previous versions. As much as I like the upgrades and built-in ND would be quite nice, I'll stick with my BMPCC 4K. Maybe the BMPCC 6K "Max" or "Ultra" will have RF mount?
@@ThomasPrettyman01 F2.8? No way. Not for me. Not even when I'm confident that my subject seems to be sitting absolutely still. When I interview, I want all my attention on the subject's words and the content, not on whether they're drifting in and out of focus. The piece of mind I got going from an FS5 (always at F5 or higher) to the DPAF on my C200 was an absolute game-changer. Not all AF is created equal, BTW. From my experience, the only cameras I'd trust for it are the C200, EOS R and (from what I hear) the new A7S3, R5 and R6.
@@smedelightworks8700 Interesting. AF in any respect is not my style but I'm primarily an operator and not a one man band. Different strokes for different folks.
I've seen a lot of talk about the "blue tint" on the screen. Did you notice this at all while using it? I've been waiting for a proper review of this camera. Thank you!
There's an interesting battle between IBIS (in-body stabilization) and Internal NDs. And I kind of get the physics behind it, since the sensor needs to move, but it also needs to stay still in relation to the ND glass. So the solution is kind of finicky. Design an IBIS strong enough to move the ND together with the sensor (but you also have ND motors and cables) OR, what I think would be the next step in the future, because we already have a glimpse of that in today's cameras: A LOT of Native ISOs (including very low ISOs), as ISOs in digital cameras are just basically reading/amplifying/dampening the sensitivity of the sensor. Think of it like your mobile phone charger that takes a lot of Volts out of a wall socket and transforms it into less Volts for your phone. So a Dual Native ISO basically means 2 "Transformers" attached to the same sensor, and the camera switches between the 2 when it reaches a certain ISO. So how about we have 10-20 Native ISOs, including LOWER ISOs. I'm talking ISO 20, 10, 5 or even ISO 1. That will be your ND filter, the Electrical Ability of your camera to Lower the sensitivity of what the sensor is seeing. Similar to how Volume knobs lower the amplitude of the sound that is being heard on the speakers. I'm calling it now, in 5-10 years we'll be debating whether to get this 20 Native ISO camera or the other one that has 25 Native ISOs... And this is because "parts" are becoming smaller as we evolve (so you can maybe fit 4 transformers in the space of 1) but also more complex so maybe you can have a transformer that handles like 4 bands within the same circuit.
What I really apreciate on a filmmaking camera: built in ND, XLR outs with 48 volt, bright flip monitor with false colour, good codecs til 120p and amamorphic options, good battery life, SDI would be nice. What I don`t need: IBIS, follow focus, EVF, 20000 ISO.
I like that it also has two mini-xlr inputs rather than just one. I really wish it had SDI out. HDMI is always a hair lagy when pulling focus. If someone made an extension for the EVF that would make up for the lack of SDI. Now I'm curious how hard it would be to make said extension myself... hmm....
The form factor of this camera leads me to *hope* they're working on an update to the URSA line that brings the camera closer to an Alexa Mini size while still providing stellar resolution/color science/pro features like SDI, increased power options, built-in NDs etc.
Wish they had the smart autofocus system like how Sony A7Siii and Fx6, Fx9 has with thier G-master Lenses. Sometimes it's always good to save some extra bucks on focus puller and also saves alot of space on rig for C-motion and stuff
I’m still using the original pocket I have 3 of them now and once upscale in resolve it competes with the new releases you just can’t beat that og color science
I've used it with 6K in a film and it cuts together nicely. If your focus and depth of field is right, with a sharp lens you don't need much more than that. I haven't even tried super scale in Resolve yet.
Was nice to hear comments comparing the bmpcc4k with this camera as (it seems) everyone else is only comparing the two 6k’s! I hope BM do a 4K pro for all those that have invested in M43’s! Also, many older computer systems struggle with 6k, factoring in a new NLE system is not for everyone! Most material shot that is delivered online is never higher than 4K, moreover, still a huge majority of it is HD. Sure, it’s nice to be able to crop, built-in ND’s, tillable screen.. but we’re talking only ergonomics. However, from my understanding of IBS, I’m not sure (with current technology) that this would be a wise move as users have complained with the GH5 that this can detrimentally affect the image.. there are videos on this I believe. After all, Arri don’t use IBS on their mini cameras, though I must admit this doesn’t mean that in principle this is not a good idea, and of course technology will improve. Still a great camera by the looks of it. Food for thought eh?! Thanks for the review.
€2,750 in Ireland for this camera and the battery grip. That's really a decent price for what you're getting. BM cameras and prices have really come a long way in the last five years.
No matter what gadget might be on set, there is nothing I love more than to shoot the old way. The fact you can go out a night with zero light and get footage like this is *crazy*!!! I don't need a full rig to have whole-day battery life just a couple Sony batteries. I don't have to carry ND filters I have them built-in. This is the camera I have been waiting for a long long time!!!
I thought those are the highlights when he adjust the manual focus from the camera and also he'd probably used an extra monitor when he recorded it at that time.
Nice sales vid for Blackmagic. I'm seriously torn now between this and Canon's c300. Also, great job having Emily walk along the strand at Rockwall. Love that area. She looks amazing with this camera and some of the lighting .
Thanks so much, for your review. Was waiting for the next version from the 6K and though I thought the next iteration would be 8K or more, they have improved upon the 6K. Thanks for your comprehensive review. I am now tempted to go in for this camera.
Love to see a cable to use the EVF away from the camera. I'm getting to old to lay on my stomach to see a shot. I know the new display is more functional, but sometimes the camera is in a weird location and using the EVF instead of carrying around an external seems like something I would like.
So much temptation!! Argh! I think I'm still going to stick with the 4k because of how well it suits my current needs with the setup I have. Although if you're looking into buying a Blackmagic, then I truly believe that the 6k Pro is the way to go. For some folks it probably is worth the upgrade to this from the 4k. Just not for me... yet... but if they add IBIS sometime in the near future, then I won't be able to resist anymore. It'll all be over at that point :)
i would like to see them add autofocus in this camera, most camera's have it ie, Canon R5, Sony, Fuji X-T4 and so on. Autofocus would make this unreal.
I have been looking but can't find...I need to see if there is an adapter for my M4/3 lenses that can fit to this Canon EF. I see a lot of the other way around fitting canon lenses on the 4/3 but I cannot find anything otherwise.
they don't exist, its to do with flange lengths and image circles, you can put larger lenses on smaller frames but not smaller on large, if you did you'll find focus issues and alot of vignetting.
As a recent grad myself, everyone in your classes will ask you to shoot if you’ve got the cool camera, be that for better or worse. My school was really tight on letting us get gear, so I’m wishing I had mine before I graduated. Since graduating, I haven’t gotten a job because of the camera, but because of connections and my general experience. Just keep that in mind, gear will get you plenty of student work, but the rest of the world doesn’t think you’re a rock star just because you have a cool camera.
If you can afford the camera body, lenses, tripod, rigging, lighting, microphones, editing computer, and data storage, without going into debt, then go for it! otherwise rent as required until you can buy directly from your own pocket. If you haven't bought any equipment yet start with audio and lighting. Investing in lighting and audio (equipment and skillset) will make more of a difference to your work than the camera will.
Great video. As a someone who shoots primarily Still Art Photography, this looks like a natural evolution for doing some motion street shoots. Just curious if you know how many of the Canon EF/EF-S Art Lens it uses? For pro videographers or film pros I know that cinema lens are a must. But, for those of us that are going to be focused largely on light impacts, and don't have to worry as much about making actors or products look good, the Canon Art lens might be sufficient. Again, thanks for the info. Great channel.
I think this camera would be a camera for a wider variety of shooters soon as it has autofocus. I own a p6k and IBS is not really a deal breaker for me.
Yup. If this had reliable autofocus and some further improved low light, it would be the perfect camera under $5000. Until then, I think Sony has this beat for a lot of projects.
@@daniell5740 for narrative work, yes I agree. For a lot of run and gun film makers, these features are a top priority. For a wedding filmmaker, for example, these features are huge. So something like an FX6 or FX3 or C70 make more sense for those application. They’re all just different tools
I think we live in the same town, Ryan - your shoot location at the harbor district is in my neck of the woods anyway 😁 I’m glad to see a local fellow BMPCC user!
Built in ND filters + xlr ins = great. Being locked into mediocre lenses and the WEIRD color - not buying. Teal and orange is a fad and it's got to go. Also, the low light is pretty poor compared to contemporary cameras. Thanks for the review!
Pocket Cinema Camera* - comparative to a full size cinema camera, this is definitely much smaller. I do like the original design for the first pocket though, so I see your meaning :)
@@samuelvayro3473 yeah. I like the slim pocket design. Powerful beast. But has its shortcomings that could be fixed with some recent tech. This new one is as big as the original cinema cam or the URSA
I am excited for the possibilities. Blackmagic has a camera for everyone now. The 6K pro looks great. For the next steps I am getting paid to do this work, the 6K pro looks great. I like the EF mount so if you shoot Canon and EF glass there your system just got nicer. Very nice to know and glad I saw this video.
Deciding between the 6K pro and 6K G2 really came down to the internal NDs for me. With the G2, I’d have to buy external NDs anyway and even if they don’t run me $500, the change is the price of convenience.
EF mount is epic. I'm looking to add some canon lenses for my older DSLR, good to know they can grow with me if I decide blackmagic is the direction to go
The camera is insane! But i feel more nogalstic of the fact yall filmed this at The Harbor! I went to Rockwall High School so that was my hangout spot during my school days! Either way man greeting from Texas! Obviously and keep up the good work!
Post-production stabilization is great, but I prefer to see great pictures in my camera before I start editing, too. I think I would buy a Canon C200 right now and live with the 4K.
Thanks for taking the time to produce this excellent report. Very much enjoyed it. Quick question, what is the audio quality/ internal Amp like when you plus in a shot gun mic using a xlr to mini xlr into the camera. I'm thinking about using this camera for foreign trips so I can travel much lighter in terms of equipment (current have an Arri Amira set up) and I would need to plug a shotgun mic which I boom for interviews straight into this camera. Would the audio be good enough or would you need an external recorder? Thanks in advance, Sparky
Same in Ukraine, the prices are insane even for the first model. Everyone in comments: wow just 2500? I'm gonna pull that much crumpled cash from my backpocket!
What does the URSA G2 offer as an A Cam that the 6k Pro doesnt? To me, the URSA only makes more sense as an a cam if you need the outputs, the rest doesn't really make sense for the price of the 6k pro
I'm really not very interested in IBIS. It murders your smooth pans, and sometimes it can screw with your image. I'd rather have a fixed sensor and a gimbal.
This may be a stupid question but I've only ever own a Canon DSLR 5D Mark II... I'm wondering can the Canon lenses attach to the Black Magic? Or do they need lenses of their own?
The EF mount and low light performance plus lack of full articulation in the screen makes it a pass. Love Blackmagic tho and am planning a full shift to Resolve.
I’ve got the regular 6k and love it. But like you said I want better lowlight. What are your thoughts on the Zcam e2 F6? Seems like an awesome camera for the price
I believe the Sony a7S3 is $3500 and it blows this camera out of the water. For low light, barely any rolling shutter whatsoever, and the best auto focus in the business! And the quality control for Blackmagic cameras is all over the place, where every Sony is consistently top-of-the-line. Hey, blackmagic does make the best editing program in the world… Resolve 17 studio… Amazing.
Thankyou! One question. Can I shoot handheld? Because it has no ibis? I have lenses with stabilization. Is that enough? Shooting now on a R6 but it's overheating. Does this camera overheat? I'm filming in bright sunlight in 30 degrees
Newbie: How do you stabilize your shots?
Ryan: My eye in the viewfinder is my tripod.
I see nothing but facts here.
Yes but consider investing in a chiropractic treatment for that neck😂... the video was great thou👍🏽
I rest my forehead on a top handle lol I look funny but it works
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Can you make a review video for the cinematic pictures and the colors for this movie👇
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Great episode Ryan! I love what Blackmagic is doing for independent film. When you combine their hardware with their software, professional quality results have never been more accessible for regular working class filmmakers. They've had Adobe on its toes more and more with their continual improvements to Resolve, and now Canon and Sony are feeling the heat as well. Love it.
This camera is one of the best assets I've ever bought for my business. Highly recommend it to anyone. You guys killed this review.
Agreed.
I’m a Nikon stills shooter looking at this camera for videography. What lenses will I need to buy for this camera? Or can I use any kind of adapter so I can fit Nikkor lenses? Thanks in advance.
How do you feel about the dynamic range?
Dang, the built in ND filters might be a selling point for me. I was going to get the normal 6K already, but ND's are well worth the price increase for on the go filming.
Especially bc you're going to have to buy them anyways for your lenses. And if you buy good ones you easyly spend more. Same with the extra batteries that you'd have to buy going with the normal one. Still need them, but not as many. You're probably saving some money in the long term
Would it make a difference though? They're still in steps, so it's likely you'll never be shooting at native ISO outdoors without lighting and modifiers.
Totally. A good set of NDs is already more than the difference between the regular 6K and the 6K pro. Plus the better battery and swivel screen are an opus upgrades. This was a great move by blackmagic.
To be honest I have seen some reviews already popping up of the ND filters having decent tints, the higher the stop the higher the tint, which indicates that the ND filters are not as high quality as some claim.
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I've been WAITING for this review! Every time I bought a new camera, I always watched Film Riot's review first. Been a fan since 2015. Y'all never stop being amazing!
Price range is actually A LOT better than I was expecting! Love the variability of this camera. Thanks for the review!
The image quality on this camera always blows my mind. It is like a cheat code for the price!
I see lots of people wishing for IBIS, but I think it’s important to note that you’d also be sacrificing some things by incorporating that. With most “cinema” cameras it is often assumed you will be doing your own stabilization, and cameras with IBIS often have issues using these forms of stabilization. For example, adding IBIS makes it unusable as a crash cam in cars due to the micro jitters and jello. IBIS also makes it more difficult to fit internal NDs into the camera body. As usual, I think it comes down to what tool works best for what you’re doing.
If rather have IBIS than internal ND tbh, i can always screw on a variable ND to a lens and use step up rings. i love being able to move a camera handheld and know it will be smooth
I just don't get this IBIS need. No, no thank you. I can use my body or just heavier setup and slowmotion to make it "shake free" or just get OIS lens. I think people who request this are certainly not experienced or really have the need for this camera. Same for continuous AF, I'd love it, but it's not truly needed. All it would do is add unnecessary costs ..
@@marcuscisneros8528 just use your body, I don't want anything correcting my image unless I choose to. Additionally, IRNDs are great for run and gun or times where you simply do not have time on shoot schedule to be messing with matte boxes and screw ons. I think IBIS is rather amateur request considering there is pleathora of ways to combat it. If anything for solo run and gun shooters AF would be better, but then maybe the cinema line isn't really what you are looking for.
@@kolecava slowmo just for sake of "stabilizing" - that is amateur.
Anyway, all those features improve the filming process and make it more accessible. There's no point of saying "cinema cameras don't have IBIS and AF, and that's it". Like you're not pro if requesting that. Like it's some kind of religious burden "pros" must carry for some magical reason. Bullshit! Everything is changing. If focus pullers and dollies, gimbals, and steadicams won't be needed anymore at some point - that will be a huge relief and a big step forward.
@@imiy agreed dude, honestly in the future i see film sets being controlled by like 2/3 persons only because of all the innovations
Love the review. Just jumped from my Sony a6300 to the BMPCC4K and absolutely loving it. It's been a long time coming but always felt like it would be impossible to get a Sony that wouldn't be out of date in a year and the BlackMagic just feels better when shooting.
When i get lost , i watch film riot videos.eventually ill be back as new.
Someone standing around on the beach with piano music. Me: Must be a camera review.
Could be a beach review
@@BrendanEvan haha 😄 true.
Please, no mask outdoors. There's no transmission outdoors, unless you're kissing her.
this is quite incredible.
recently talked to a DP that shot on the alexa mini for over six years: he said, no one can tell a difference between the pocket's and the alexa's image.
and he was only talking about the standard 6k version then
If you train your eyes you can tell
if thats true, wow. Sounds great
I think you guys made the first camera review I ever watched. So excited for this one! I’m scared of manual focus, but otherwise it seems awesome.
Clearly, Blackmagic loves ND filmmakers
Nice upgrades all around (what the original 6K should have been), but the biggest misstep for me is the EF-mount. RF would made it MUCH more versatile and worth upgrading from previous versions. As much as I like the upgrades and built-in ND would be quite nice, I'll stick with my BMPCC 4K. Maybe the BMPCC 6K "Max" or "Ultra" will have RF mount?
Just got this two days ago and have been blown away by the content I am creating with it. Major kudos to Blackmagic!
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This camera would be out of stock 24/7 if it had IBIS. I’d for sure get it.
I'd rather have usable autofocus for one-man-band interviews. It's a dealbreaker without it.
@@smedelightworks8700 Is it though? Just set your focus and don't shoot at f1.8. Pretty easy to one man band an interview at even f2.8
@@ThomasPrettyman01 F2.8? No way. Not for me. Not even when I'm confident that my subject seems to be sitting absolutely still. When I interview, I want all my attention on the subject's words and the content, not on whether they're drifting in and out of focus. The piece of mind I got going from an FS5 (always at F5 or higher) to the DPAF on my C200 was an absolute game-changer. Not all AF is created equal, BTW. From my experience, the only cameras I'd trust for it are the C200, EOS R and (from what I hear) the new A7S3, R5 and R6.
@@smedelightworks8700 Interesting. AF in any respect is not my style but I'm primarily an operator and not a one man band. Different strokes for different folks.
I've seen a lot of talk about the "blue tint" on the screen. Did you notice this at all while using it? I've been waiting for a proper review of this camera. Thank you!
Chiming in to say I experience it on mine. No change to the actual footage although it is an inconvenience.
Sometimes Film Riot showing up in my notifications gives me nostalgia 😅
There's an interesting battle between IBIS (in-body stabilization) and Internal NDs. And I kind of get the physics behind it, since the sensor needs to move, but it also needs to stay still in relation to the ND glass. So the solution is kind of finicky. Design an IBIS strong enough to move the ND together with the sensor (but you also have ND motors and cables)
OR, what I think would be the next step in the future, because we already have a glimpse of that in today's cameras: A LOT of Native ISOs (including very low ISOs), as ISOs in digital cameras are just basically reading/amplifying/dampening the sensitivity of the sensor. Think of it like your mobile phone charger that takes a lot of Volts out of a wall socket and transforms it into less Volts for your phone. So a Dual Native ISO basically means 2 "Transformers" attached to the same sensor, and the camera switches between the 2 when it reaches a certain ISO. So how about we have 10-20 Native ISOs, including LOWER ISOs. I'm talking ISO 20, 10, 5 or even ISO 1. That will be your ND filter, the Electrical Ability of your camera to Lower the sensitivity of what the sensor is seeing. Similar to how Volume knobs lower the amplitude of the sound that is being heard on the speakers.
I'm calling it now, in 5-10 years we'll be debating whether to get this 20 Native ISO camera or the other one that has 25 Native ISOs... And this is because "parts" are becoming smaller as we evolve (so you can maybe fit 4 transformers in the space of 1) but also more complex so maybe you can have a transformer that handles like 4 bands within the same circuit.
What I really apreciate on a filmmaking camera: built in ND, XLR outs with 48 volt, bright flip monitor with false colour, good codecs til 120p and amamorphic options, good battery life, SDI would be nice.
What I don`t need: IBIS, follow focus, EVF, 20000 ISO.
You guys always have the most inspirational test footage. All the way since back when you convinced me to get an a7s
I like that it also has two mini-xlr inputs rather than just one. I really wish it had SDI out. HDMI is always a hair lagy when pulling focus. If someone made an extension for the EVF that would make up for the lack of SDI. Now I'm curious how hard it would be to make said extension myself... hmm....
Could you do an A7SIII review for filmmakers? Even If you just borrow it for a week. Love your work!
The form factor of this camera leads me to *hope* they're working on an update to the URSA line that brings the camera closer to an Alexa Mini size while still providing stellar resolution/color science/pro features like SDI, increased power options, built-in NDs etc.
Wish they had the smart autofocus system like how Sony A7Siii and Fx6, Fx9 has with thier G-master Lenses. Sometimes it's always good to save some extra bucks on focus puller and also saves alot of space on rig for C-motion and stuff
Holy chromatic aberration on that tree when you were showing the ND filters.
first thing i saw lol
@@87andsmith thats the lens, not camera :)
That is definitely from the Rokinon lenses they are using which are notorious for chromatic aberration.
Agreed, the 6K Pro is a fantastic cinema camera, I would love to get my hands on one!
I’m still using the original pocket I have 3 of them now and once upscale in resolve it competes with the new releases you just can’t beat that og color science
I've been using mine since 2014 and I'm looking to buy another one. It's still a fantastic camera.
I've used it with 6K in a film and it cuts together nicely. If your focus and depth of field is right, with a sharp lens you don't need much more than that. I haven't even tried super scale in Resolve yet.
The moment when the camera name is longer than one row of video title 😂
Great video. It's also the first time I've heard someone say the NDs are IRND filters. That's awesome to hear!
Was nice to hear comments comparing the bmpcc4k with this camera as (it seems) everyone else is only comparing the two 6k’s! I hope BM do a 4K pro for all those that have invested in M43’s! Also, many older computer systems struggle with 6k, factoring in a new NLE system is not for everyone! Most material shot that is delivered online is never higher than 4K, moreover, still a huge majority of it is HD. Sure, it’s nice to be able to crop, built-in ND’s, tillable screen.. but we’re talking only ergonomics. However, from my understanding of IBS, I’m not sure (with current technology) that this would be a wise move as users have complained with the GH5 that this can detrimentally affect the image.. there are videos on this I believe. After all, Arri don’t use IBS on their mini cameras, though I must admit this doesn’t mean that in principle this is not a good idea, and of course technology will improve.
Still a great camera by the looks of it. Food for thought eh?! Thanks for the review.
€2,750 in Ireland for this camera and the battery grip. That's really a decent price for what you're getting. BM cameras and prices have really come a long way in the last five years.
No matter what gadget might be on set, there is nothing I love more than to shoot the old way. The fact you can go out a night with zero light and get footage like this is *crazy*!!! I don't need a full rig to have whole-day battery life just a couple Sony batteries. I don't have to carry ND filters I have them built-in. This is the camera I have been waiting for a long long time!!!
Emily!!!!..great to see her and the film Riot family. Film Riot, my one stop RUclips film 🎥 school. Period!!!!
At 3:10 holy cow the chromatic aberations on the tree are crazy! Did you notice more of this with the 6kpro?
Yup, maybe the lens
I've heard some complaints of this happening because of the built in ND's
3:12 Did I see a massive purple fringing in the branches?
That’s the lens. It’s called chromatic aberration. It usually happens on vintage lenses when you’re shooing at wide apertures.
Thats caused by the lens not the camera
@@MistaFussichannel or cheap Rokinon lenses lol
I thought those are the highlights when he adjust the manual focus from the camera and also he'd probably used an extra monitor when he recorded it at that time.
Crazy I've been watching u guys for like a decade now. Great review 🔥🔥
i bought mine last night guys!! I'll receive it in 3 days !!!
It’s been great seeing so much of Emily lately! 🥰
Is it just me or is it weird she's not trying to kill everyone?
Can’t wait till mine comes in!
The new in-body stabilization that Sony's got is just too cool. I really do wish this had it.
The only two things I wish you had talked about was timecode and audio features. Still a great review overall though. :)
IBS is nice to have, but I think AF is the most important, this camera have all the greatness.
Did you notice a magenta shift with the ND filters? I heard something about it with the 6k pro camera.
Nice sales vid for Blackmagic. I'm seriously torn now between this and Canon's c300. Also, great job having Emily walk along the strand at Rockwall. Love that area. She looks amazing with this camera and some of the lighting .
Personally I would go with this and use the extra $ for lenses.
Also, two xlr inputs!
Thanks so much, for your review. Was waiting for the next version from the 6K and though I thought the next iteration would be 8K or more, they have improved upon the 6K. Thanks for your comprehensive review. I am now tempted to go in for this camera.
That hot swap tip is great! Hadn't realized it cycles when drafting up my 4k comparison.
Love to see a cable to use the EVF away from the camera. I'm getting to old to lay on my stomach to see a shot. I know the new display is more functional, but sometimes the camera is in a weird location and using the EVF instead of carrying around an external seems like something I would like.
I always watched your videos when I was younger.... Seeing you guys with gray hairs made me feel old.
BTW: Awesome video as usual
i love your reviews bro... good work for Nairobi Kenya
So much temptation!! Argh! I think I'm still going to stick with the 4k because of how well it suits my current needs with the setup I have. Although if you're looking into buying a Blackmagic, then I truly believe that the 6k Pro is the way to go. For some folks it probably is worth the upgrade to this from the 4k. Just not for me... yet... but if they add IBIS sometime in the near future, then I won't be able to resist anymore. It'll all be over at that point :)
At 3:09 there are purples lines surrounding the branches on the tree. Is that just a glitch?
Chromatic aberration, hopefully a lens issue and not caused by the ND.
@@zachpw yeah especially since the older pocket 6k had a lot of it 🙁
i would like to see them add autofocus in this camera, most camera's have it ie, Canon R5, Sony, Fuji X-T4 and so on. Autofocus would make this unreal.
I have been looking but can't find...I need to see if there is an adapter for my M4/3 lenses that can fit to this Canon EF. I see a lot of the other way around fitting canon lenses on the 4/3 but I cannot find anything otherwise.
they don't exist, its to do with flange lengths and image circles, you can put larger lenses on smaller frames but not smaller on large, if you did you'll find focus issues and alot of vignetting.
Yes!!! Been waiting all day for this :)
You guys rock!
Been thinking about getting this as my first real camera, do you recommend or should I wait until after college?
I'm no expert but I would go for it if you have the money.
@@rodrigofeiteira this camera is one billion times better than a t3i. OP get it.
I'm going to get it. It's my first real camera too. Good luck!
As a recent grad myself, everyone in your classes will ask you to shoot if you’ve got the cool camera, be that for better or worse. My school was really tight on letting us get gear, so I’m wishing I had mine before I graduated. Since graduating, I haven’t gotten a job because of the camera, but because of connections and my general experience. Just keep that in mind, gear will get you plenty of student work, but the rest of the world doesn’t think you’re a rock star just because you have a cool camera.
If you can afford the camera body, lenses, tripod, rigging, lighting, microphones, editing computer, and data storage, without going into debt, then go for it! otherwise rent as required until you can buy directly from your own pocket. If you haven't bought any equipment yet start with audio and lighting. Investing in lighting and audio (equipment and skillset) will make more of a difference to your work than the camera will.
Great video. As a someone who shoots primarily Still Art Photography, this looks like a natural evolution for doing some motion street shoots. Just curious if you know how many of the Canon EF/EF-S Art Lens it uses? For pro videographers or film pros I know that cinema lens are a must. But, for those of us that are going to be focused largely on light impacts, and don't have to worry as much about making actors or products look good, the Canon Art lens might be sufficient. Again, thanks for the info. Great channel.
I think this camera would be a camera for a wider variety of shooters soon as it has autofocus.
I own a p6k and IBS is not really a deal breaker for me.
Should I get this the c70 or Komodo :))
Yup. If this had reliable autofocus and some further improved low light, it would be the perfect camera under $5000. Until then, I think Sony has this beat for a lot of projects.
@@JasonBornTV They are dslr cameras not cine cameras. You don't use auto focus really for cine cameras lol
@@daniell5740 for narrative work, yes I agree. For a lot of run and gun film makers, these features are a top priority. For a wedding filmmaker, for example, these features are huge. So something like an FX6 or FX3 or C70 make more sense for those application. They’re all just different tools
@@JasonBornTV Definitely not for run and gun film makers? Lol that's the point of the camera is for them which they don't need it
I think we live in the same town, Ryan - your shoot location at the harbor district is in my neck of the woods anyway 😁 I’m glad to see a local fellow BMPCC user!
Built in ND filters + xlr ins = great. Being locked into mediocre lenses and the WEIRD color - not buying. Teal and orange is a fad and it's got to go. Also, the low light is pretty poor compared to contemporary cameras. Thanks for the review!
The original BMPCC4K was already a pain to stabilize on a stabilizer. Imagine trying to stabilize a BMPCC 6K Pro with the grip on. :) fun time
I haven't seen a stabilizer properly balanced that couldn't handle the 4K, youre not trying it on a smart phone gimble are you?
I have been waiting for this video,Great review
Thank you Film Riot
They jus added stabilization 🤯
PLEASE REVIEW
I wish they brought back the original pocket with some improvements. It doesn't feel like a pocket camera anymore
Pocket Cinema Camera* - comparative to a full size cinema camera, this is definitely much smaller. I do like the original design for the first pocket though, so I see your meaning :)
@@samuelvayro3473 yeah. I like the slim pocket design. Powerful beast. But has its shortcomings that could be fixed with some recent tech. This new one is as big as the original cinema cam or the URSA
Yes, they need a smaller 4K camera. It's definitely possible.
Been waiting for this review!
Great review! Just ordered two to go with my original 6K for multi cam shoots like interviews or video podcasts
I am excited for the possibilities. Blackmagic has a camera for everyone now. The 6K pro looks great. For the next steps I am getting paid to do this work, the 6K pro looks great. I like the EF mount so if you shoot Canon and EF glass there your system just got nicer. Very nice to know and glad I saw this video.
Deciding between the 6K pro and 6K G2 really came down to the internal NDs for me. With the G2, I’d have to buy external NDs anyway and even if they don’t run me $500, the change is the price of convenience.
From the comments that I've read, they need to add 2 features which will make it the almost perfect camera:
1. Autofcus
2. IBIS
EF mount is epic. I'm looking to add some canon lenses for my older DSLR, good to know they can grow with me if I decide blackmagic is the direction to go
@filmriot love the review I noticed there is nothing on the channel so thought I'd ask if you have any thoughts on the Sigma FP?
The camera is insane! But i feel more nogalstic of the fact yall filmed this at The Harbor! I went to Rockwall High School so that was my hangout spot during my school days!
Either way man greeting from Texas! Obviously and keep up the good work!
Actually if they finally give it IBIS + Canon-like DPAF, then this a Pocket will truly be unstoppable
Since when did cine cameras have ibis?
@@jonathonpemberton5019 or reliaed on Autofocus...
Hi Ryan! awesome video! What lenses do you recommend for this camera with stabilization?
Post-production stabilization is great, but I prefer to see great pictures in my camera before I start editing, too. I think I would buy a Canon C200 right now and live with the 4K.
I'm still using the OG pocket cinema camera. Blackmagic has my heart 💙
Awesome review guys !
Thanks for taking the time to produce this excellent report. Very much enjoyed it. Quick question, what is the audio quality/ internal Amp like when you plus in a shot gun mic using a xlr to mini xlr into the camera. I'm thinking about using this camera for foreign trips so I can travel much lighter in terms of equipment (current have an Arri Amira set up) and I would need to plug a shotgun mic which I boom for interviews straight into this camera. Would the audio be good enough or would you need an external recorder? Thanks in advance, Sparky
Here I am in Brazil looking for a 1080p bmpcc that I could make a stretch and finance.
Same in Ukraine, the prices are insane even for the first model.
Everyone in comments: wow just 2500? I'm gonna pull that much crumpled cash from my backpocket!
What lenses do you use with the 4K and 6K Pro?
looks like Rokinons to me.
What does the URSA G2 offer as an A Cam that the 6k Pro doesnt? To me, the URSA only makes more sense as an a cam if you need the outputs, the rest doesn't really make sense for the price of the 6k pro
Are you using Davinci mainly now or still PPRO??
How are you liking Davinci -- made a complete switch and its been a dream
Is this a good upgrade from the Ursa Mini 4k or is it not worth it?
Have they, added autofocus, ? I want to get the camera but I’m concerned about focus
Hey Film Riot, what are your thoughts on the Ursa Mini 12K? It recently came down in price similar to canon c70, red Komodo etc
I'm really not very interested in IBIS. It murders your smooth pans, and sometimes it can screw with your image. I'd rather have a fixed sensor and a gimbal.
Correct, does Alexas have IBIS?
@@joanacollado8430 I don't think so...
This may be a stupid question but I've only ever own a Canon DSLR 5D Mark II... I'm wondering can the Canon lenses attach to the Black Magic? Or do they need lenses of their own?
What about those chromatic aberrations at 3:09?
The EF mount and low light performance plus lack of full articulation in the screen makes it a pass. Love Blackmagic tho and am planning a full shift to Resolve.
I just wished Blackmagic would change their form factor. I like the box or rectangular shape of C70 and ARRI
I’ve got the regular 6k and love it. But like you said I want better lowlight. What are your thoughts on the Zcam e2 F6? Seems like an awesome camera for the price
I believe the Sony a7S3 is $3500 and it blows this camera out of the water. For low light, barely any rolling shutter whatsoever, and the best auto focus in the business!
And the quality control for Blackmagic cameras is all over the place, where every Sony is consistently top-of-the-line.
Hey, blackmagic does make the best editing program in the world… Resolve 17 studio… Amazing.
The 4K and 6K are getting a firmware update to have the same color profile as the 6K Pro. Seeing this, I am excited to upgrade my 4K.
Ryan What camera did you use to shoot the product shots of the BMPCC6k Pro? Cheers, Jay
Thankyou! One question. Can I shoot handheld? Because it has no ibis? I have lenses with stabilization. Is that enough? Shooting now on a R6 but it's overheating. Does this camera overheat? I'm filming in bright sunlight in 30 degrees
How does the red camera look better please explain??
On that denoise outside at iso 8000, did you downres to 4k? Cause that would help even more