Many things I know from experience (but much more to learn) being 74 yrs old but I can listen intently to your videos well past 30 minutes. Russ, you have an infectious demeanor that holds attention. Where were you when I was attempting to grasp physics in college?
Hello, old friend, it's funny I just picked up a Gamo Shadow Whisper for my birthday yesterday and I got to say I was amazed just how quiet this thing is, well I'm used to how loud my dragon claw is. Also, I have a longer lk5 3d printer I'm learning how to use, Who says you can't teach an old dog new tricks. Thanks again for the video and God bless sir.
It is good to hear from you Tasan Ali ... you will have to share those success stories using your new 3d printer... and thanks for the compliment ... Dr. Russ
Dr. Russ you never fail to entertain and (more importantly) educate me in just about every video! I've loved my Titan for years and struggled with scopes until I picked up the BSA you recommended, and I've never been happier (and more consistently accurate). I can't thank you enough for helping me be a better airgunner sir!!
Skunk Five ... it is good to hear from you and glad you are enjoying your Benjamin... be sure to check out one of our recent videos with AEA Gifts in the title ... which will show you how to enter a drawing we have on two AEA air guns ... the Terminator ... semi auto .. in 30 caliber and the Defender pistol in 357 magnum caliber... Dr. Russ
@@marcaustin "BSA Optics Outlook 3-9x40 Adjustable Objective Air Rifle Scope" should find it for you. Dr Russ stressed the AO aspect of the scope and it's been a game-changer
Ps Dr Russ, the IGT stands for Inert Gas Technology. In the UK, BSA airguns called their version the GRT, Gas Ram Technology and their Lightning XL grt se in .22 is brilliant. 👍🏼🇬🇧🇺🇸🇬🇧🇺🇸
John Terhark ... Yes, mine has arrived and it is beautiful. I should have a review on it soon. Be sure to watch a recent video with the title AEA Terminator and Defender Gifts ... as it will share with you our current drawing for these two airguns ... including the Terminator Semi Auto in 30 cal. and the Defender Pistol in 357 caliber... Dr. Russ
THANK YOU Dr Russ for you wealth of information and insight into air gun shooting and your experiences. I have ordered the Gamo Swarm Maxxim Gen 2 - .22cal and its on the way as well as owning/using a Benjamin N2 .22 cal rifle since 2015. I have taken down right at 500 grey squirrels on my property since 2015 and the "grey's" have declared war on me and are coming for my garden, bird feeders, apple and pear trees and engine bays on my vehicles. You have answered several important questions for me and I appreciate you putting this video out very much!! I will stay tuned.....
It is good to hear from you Marvin Davis ... plug up those exhaust pipes or mice etc will turn them into winter homes...Thanks for sharing ... please continue .. Dr. Russ
Thanks for another great video. I'm glad you talk about the artillery hold in several of your videos, I have to remind myself to lighten up my hold on my break barrel guns all the time. Accuracy is definitely better with a lighter grip.
Dennis L ... it is good to hear from you.... Lighter is better ... but focus on consistent hold. Everything has to be consistent in your hold. Lightness helps consistency... but also focus on where and how you are holding your rifle. Also watch my video on 7 Accuracy Tips with Gamo.... as well as another on Accuracy that covers even more tips. When you let out a third of your breath ...consider touching the roof of your mouth with the tip of your tongue... which gives you about 3 to 4 seconds of consistent hold. Keep in touch ... Dr. Russ
I absolutely LOVE your videos! I've gleaned so much information from all of these educational videos. Air guns are new to me. I'm 63 years old so I had the old school air guns when I was a kid. Thank you for the education. Rev
Guyallphin ... it is good to hear from you and thanks for the compliment ...Dr. Paula are working on our next 3 ... hopefully they will be even better ... please stay in touch ... I am 78 and have a great passion for this sport... Keep in mind that there are several groups here and we are trying to respond to all .... target practice ... critter control ... large game ... competition shooting ... and defense. Please stay in touch... Dr. Russ
Good to hear from you again Anthony. When I started these videos, I planned to do six .. primarily for our 15 grand kids which are scattered about the country... but that turned into 80 videos in 2 and a half years ... hearing from great air gunners like yourself... Dr. Russ
Sir , thx for your reply. I think you and I are in a total different understanding about airgun physics and dynamics, and that’s fine , no worries. Take care.
Angelo ... you may have sold the most accurate Gamo Swarm break barrel that they make... keep your eyes out for some bargains this summer when Gamo introduces their Gen 3i air guns... Dr. Russ
Another video full of informative content. I love how you say something then explain what you said. You would've made a great school teacher. Going to a gun show tomorrow to hopefully sell some surplus equipment I have then I'll be ordering a cap and shirt if you still have any left.God Bless you and yours.Till the next video take care.
Good to hear from you Russell Horner... what a great first name you have...lol....God bless Gun Shows and the opportunity that they provide... Stay in touch... DR. Russ
Another entertaining video Dr. Russ! I have several Gamo rifles and if they have the CAT (Custom Action Trigger) you can install a slightly longer trigger screw which will allow you to adjust those triggers down to 1 pound or less.
Keith Stanley .. it is good to hear from you ... and thanks for the tip on triggers... A light trigger between one and two lbs can really ... really ... help accuracy. I should include that lighting up a trigger also adds to upping your safety precautions... thanks for sharing the tip... Dr. Russ
Interesting video again Dr Russ thank you. Just wondering if you've heard the UK is facing an almost total ban on the use of lead ammo. Shotgun shells, live ammo and air rifle ammo. All going! I dont know where our sport is heading here in the UK but it doesnt look good.
Emay ... that lead issue in UK is not good... and I know it makes some of the biggest lead pellet manufacturers in the world upset... Hopefully it doesn't come to the U.S. ... however California has warning labels on all lead pellets and slugs. All of those other pellets are made of lighter materials and it will be difficult to get a break barrel velocity down into your sweet spot... 725 up to 1025 fps... keep us in your loop... Dr. Russ
@@drsrussandpaula . Its crazy Dr Russ. In the UK there are thousands of old houses that still have lead drinking water supply pipes. Yet these lead pipes are not on the agenda for being replaced. So our government is thinking it is safer to drink our water through lead pipes that it is to shoot with lead ammo?? Crazy times ahead!
Total scam & part of the wider "net 0 carbon emissions" which in effect will control/restrict ALL areas of our lives from travel, where you can live, where you can work, monitored & watched 24/7 under the guise of "saving the planet" (note greta thunberg & the other climate talk heads use private jets to attend their meetings where they tell you, that you cannot use your car - thus using more fuel in 1 x journey than most do in a lifetime) - look into how many homes in London use LEAD PIPING for their water supply - no ban on that - no government scheme to replace ALL the lead pipes that peoples water they drink everyday comes from/clean with, but yet they gonna ban lead airgun pellets... as though that is somehow going to stop the wildfires, droughts & floods!!! total mind control for the nwo. Note also when they banned license owned guns in 96 as a result of the Dunblane massacre...carried out by Thomas Hamilton ... who was a freemason. They took law abiding citices guns when there was no gun crime - now they are illegal there is record gun crime, they going to ban airgun pellets for when the chaos comes they want you totally defenceless.
You are an insane wealth of knowledge. I appreciate your ability to explain all these differences that most non gun owners have no idea about. I own a couple of 10 shot revolvers for plinking and a Byrna for protection so far but am looking for an accurate rifle for raccoons in the backyard. Great explanations. And thanks
Rented Mule ... thanks for the feed back. As a competitive shooter and a hunter ... my personal experience is the need for accuracy ... for bullseyes and head shots ... and energy, while it is a great thing ... comes in second behind accuracy with my air gunning. So I want the heaviest pellet inside my gun's sweet spot of velocity ... This combo typically gives both accuracy and energy. Please stay in touch. Dr. Russ
I think thats what he said bro... not too fast "but does the job" .and not too slow... "sweet spot"... you ever shoot a real gun or seen somthing shot... Big wholes are more messy... and too small cal. Too fast will go strait threw... but with both speed or weight its where you hit... head behind the ear with 22. Dead... head blown off with 50. Still dead 9mm is a good example... its in the middle kinda... i got 2 freinds that both got shot 5 times and lived... my other boy got 1 in the lung and did not... Placement TRUE EXAMPLES too :/
John's Budget Airguns & Archery .... it is good to hear from you ... and thanks for the compliments.... please keep us in your air gun info loop ... Dr. Russ
I just finished mounting a Tatsu to my Maxxim Gen2 last night. Worth the hassle IMO but I already had three Donnyfl suppressors sitting around. Took some shots earlier and the moved a zero just a tad lower/left but no other ill effects thus far.
Good to hear from you C K ... and glad you were able to make a DonnyFL Suppressor work on a break barrel... You might be the first ... and I know it is silent now... congratulations... thanks for sharing ... Dr. Russ
@@drsrussandpaula I sent a photo over to Donny, we will see if he confirms! Who knows, maybe it will help push an adapter to market. I would buy one without question.
Love your hat today doc. Great video. I wanted to know about the crosman nitro piston because I have one. Thanks for your enlightening information buddy. Take care.
I have both 22 and 25 Air Venture Avenger air rifles and just lost out in a bidding war for Avenger's newer Generation 2 that looks like a Bull Pup...Videos are scheduled here in 2022. Dr. Russ
All my 22 caliber guns seem to like the Crosman Hollowpoints 14.3 grains . My Hatsan AT 44 QE long in 22 is very accurate with these pellets . I shoot grey squirrels over my back fence at 50 to 55 yards with no problems . In my experience I have noticed that guns with Loather Walther barrels seem to prefer better quality pellets . My Gen 1 Maxxim in .177 caliber really likes the budget pellets 9.6 grain Winchester / Daisy brand. A mystery to me ?
It is good to hear from you Doe Dokes ... the Crosman Hollow points are very accurate in many air guns because they are consistent in weight and the hollow point is very, very small. The Crosman Domes are also consistent and if you want a very small improvement in a tighter group, you might try that. Walther barrels seem to like JSB or Vortex pellets... Dr. Russ
Dr Rus I absolutely love your vids since I found you channel 7 days ago so I’d like to ask a few Qs. 1- What’s the chance you can do a comparison with the cfx/car to the whispers? 2- What’s also the best weight/grain range for the high ft p/s .177 cal? I have a game zombie (big Cat) and a cfx both in .177 and I think they are high in there ft p/s advertising gimmick lol hence the above Q’s
Bennon Lapworth it is good to hear from you ... and I hope you share some of your air gun experiences with us ... helping us to help everyone stay air gun safe, sharp and silent. I don't have the cfx/car on our schedule over the next 2 months ... so it might come in the fourth quarter of this year. Be sure to watch a recent video with the title AEA Terminator & Defender Gifts ... as it will share with you the method to enter our drawing for a semi auto 30 caliber and a 357 magnum pistol.... Dr Russ
I just bought a Gamo extreme hunter pro last week Gamo had them $100.00 off not shot it yet but it’s a heavy gun and takes 41 pounds to cock but seems like more than that I really like the nice looking wood stock it has
John ... it is good to hear from you and I know the beauty of that gun ... please keep us in your air gun experience loop when you sight it in... Dr. Russ
As far as I've seen, GAMO advertises their Magnum springers at 1600, not the Maxxim. The Maxxim is advertised at 1100 with alloy, an asumed 800 with lead. yes, still an exaggeration, but not as much as 1600 vs 600 would be. I got the Gamo Swarm Magnum 10x Gen 2 recently (in part due to your videos and testing with it), and am so far happy with the results I've gotten. Haven't been able to shoot it with an optic yet, though I did buy one (Leapers 4x32 AO). Looking forward to that. Also, big thanks for the information on the Gen 3i!
Another thing, the AEA Zeus 72 cal has the same diameter barrel as a 12 gauge shotgun. I'd try shooting a 12 gauge slug for the best results, as the gun itself puts out the same power as a 12 gauge. Not to mention, you're gonna get 12 gauge slugs for cheaper than slugs targeted at the airgun audience.
xdskoot ... it is good to hear from you ... All of the Swarm group are gas piston air guns ... I believe some of their older break barrels are springers. and unfortunately, Gamo is known for overstating their pellet velocities ... which is sad to me because that is what they push when getting buyers to upgrade to gen 2 and will for gen 3 too. You are going to enjoy your Leapers AO scope... Dr. Russ
@@xdskroot7247 ... my experience so far is that actual shotgun slugs maybe too heavy for the 12 gauge air guns. One viewer has suggested getting 12 gauge hollow points and filling the front hole with solder ... or epoxy glue ... to turn it into a round nose. I havent tried either yet ... but may. Until then, shooting hollow points in rifles is like throwing an open umbrella into the wind. Dr. Russ
@@drsrussandpaula I'm looking at the advertised specs on the official site for the AEA Zeus. They say it does about 870 fps with an 870 grain "pellet". Seeing as I'm more used to grams than grains for shotgun ammunition, I translated that over to grams. 870 grains comes out to just over 56 grams. Seeing as 12 gauge slugs are made to do around 1500 fps (with exceptions), and weigh between 24 and 36 grams, I believe the weight of the slug wouldn't be a problem for the Zeus. One thing that might make it shoot different from a standard Zeus projectile would be how it grips the rifling, aerodynamics, etc. It'll take some testing to find what works and what doesn't, but we do that with every airgun, why not a the 72 cal powerhouse that is the Zeus.
@@xdskroot7247 ... good point ... my only concern .. and I am not an engineer ... is that pellets and slugs range in width by several hundreds.... so 72 caliber isn't necessarily equal to an actual 12 gauge.... and maybe a 12 gauge slug isn't necessarily 72 caliber.... so if I were in your place... I would start by seeing if you can push a 12 gauge slug down the barrel of a Zeus ... before actually firing it. Secondly, I would put a little silicone or bullet lube on it before pushing it thru or firing it thru the Zeus Barrel. XDSkroot ... please ... without getting yourself hurt ... please share your safe testing results with us... Dr. Russ
Dr.russ , thanks for all that valuable info I have the 30 cal Hatsan carnivore I can tell you that rifle is a killer .. it's a little heavy but I like it like that , from the generation I come from ( 60s ) we don't complain too much you just rest a little more .. anyway !! keep sending you videos and we'll keep watching 🐗🐐🐓🦎 🌎 🇵🇷👍
Pedro cruz ... it is good to hear from you and thanks for sharing. I dont have a Hatsan carnivore ... but it is on my wish list ... and yes those Hatsan rifles are heavy ... but excellent accuracy ... especially with that QE barrel... Dr. Russ
I just traded my Magnum gen3i in because I was getting dinner plate sized groupings. Picked up the whisper swarm .22 and still trying to break it in I think. I had the Swarm Fushion .22 and it was my favorite. But I traded that it in hopes that getting the Magnum was a worth while trade. Turned out to be a horrible decision. I lost my Fushion which I could keyhole 10 shots one after another with. Now I'm back to quarter size groups at 25 yards. This air gun world can be frustrating and tricky! Thank you for all of you videos. They've helped me greatly.
Adam Lawrence... The Gamo rifles ... like many others has a rough rifling that requires several hundred rounds fired thru it to polish those edges.... Use a bullet lube to help with that process... and use it consistently .... use the heaviest pellets possible with a light oil.... and remember to store your rifle with barrel down ... and not up ... perhaps with a cloth at the end of the barrel to catch any draining oil.... keep in touch with your progress... Dr. Russ
@@drsrussandpaula Thank you Dr. Russ. I plan on giving the Magnum another go again when I can afford to pick up another. I've been running lots of pellets through my new Swarm Whisper .22 and it is straightening up. I let my impatience get the best of me with the air rifle I wanted most! I will certainly be giving it a go again! God bless you and your family Dr. Russ. I appreciate all of your videos and help.
I would double check on where the Crosman/Benjamin is made. Their breakbarrels started out made in China, Then the NP'2 were assembled in the US with a mix of US and China parts. They did a video showing the quality checks and assy in the US when the The Trail NP2 came out. I don't know if any are made/assembled in the US anymore. After PCP's took off break barrels was put on the back burner for most companies, But Gamo keeps making improvements to theirs even if just a little here and their.
Charles ... good point. I believe Crosman has brought out a Mag Fire break barrel and Hatsan has come out with one too ... but not 3 like Gamo. Dr. Russ
@@drsrussandpaula Yeah, Gamo put them one the spot when they brought out the Swarm mag feed and left them scrambling to catch up. I don't know what VooDoo magic Gama has done to make lightweight magnum breakbarrels much less hold sensitive/easier to achieve accuracy normally found in a 14 FPE spring gun, but to me that's the biggest improvement in the history of break barrels. I gave up on 27-28 FPE break barrels and went to 14 FPE for accuracy. Now I've got to of these Gamo Magnums getting real close to my 14 FPE bench guns and they don't weigh 13 pounds scoped.
Dr russ did you have a y trigger issues with the np2 n if so how'd you fix it? I have an np2 all videos concerning the np2 have to do with the trigger. With kick from this airgun a heavier pellet is needed to get better accuracy i think ,otherwise its like shooting a pumper at those fsps.
Jerry Purnell ... it is good to hear from you...and I hate to share this with you ... but Crosman break barrels have lousy triggers and often have to be replaced with others (Charley brand comes to mind) ... or allow a trained gunsmith to work on your existing trigger... keep in touch and let us know how you do... Dr. Russ
I’ve been using a 3i bone collector these last few days and it is outstanding. The scope it came with was their zoom, and it failed after 200 rounds. Other than that I think this rifle has that sweet spot you were talking about.
It is good to hear from you Richard Rude ... I have several Benjamin break barrels and recently received the multi shot Benjamin which competes directly with Gamo's Swarm 10X multi shots. My biggest complaint with NP and NP-2 are the triggers... and often do better when replaced with other brands. I am anxious to do the review on my new Benjamin Mag Shot to see if that trigger has been redesigned... Stay in touch .. Dr. Russ
Great educational video as usual. I am curious what pellets you used here. I'm a fan of heavier pellets but not sure where the sweet spot is. Some I believe can be too heavy for the spring/piston from what I hear. I like 25 grain Diablo i think they are right now in my Ruger Impact 22 cal. Looking to get something different now. That Ruger was my first air gun since in my teens. ( a few decades ago)
Erikvaldur .... Each type of air gun has a sweet spot range where the pellets are most accurate .... and that range is 850 up to 950. Assuming you dont have a velocity meter to start this project... you need to have a half dozen different weight pellets .... align them from lightest to heaviest ... and shoot at a half dozen targets at approximately 35 yards... they should get tighter groups as you increasing shoot heavier pellets.... from there you want to experiment with different brand pellets in that weight class. Softer lead allows the skirt to spread out easier and make contact with the rifling.... Dr. Russ
Just so people know, the Gamo Swarm Magnum does have baffles/ air stripers in the built on suppressor. Not saying they do alot because there quiet anyhow. Most of the noise of a break barrel will come from the action of the piston slamming forward, and that's not alot either and the sound of the pellet hitting your target. Any Gamo that uses this suppressor on the end will have red cone baffles. I take mine out to clean the barrel.
Charles Outdoor, thanks for the update. The Gamo Swarm break barrel I took apart did not have baffles in it ... perhaps there is a difference between calibers or years manufactured. Dr. Russ
@@drsrussandpaula The ones like the swarm magnums have a red set of cone baffles you can see thru the side. Not sure about the others. I think it does more as an air stripper than make it quite, but the Brits swear by them even on break barrels.
I am new to this air rifle discussion, except I have a 60-year-old air rifle that I got when I was a kid. Today I received a new Gamo Rifle I ordered on Amazon. I ordered the Gamo Swarm Magnum G2 .22, Multi, 0.22, and I received the Gamo Swarm Magnum Gen3i 22 cal. I have looked high and far for information on the differences between the two air rifles. This is why I came to your RUclips site because I put a question in the Search box (Gamo Swarm Gen 2 vs 3i. After I watched your presentation I still have no idea what the differences are? Hoping you can fill me in now that the 3i has been released! Thank You for your answer in advance.
Bill ... it is good to hear from you ... and I hope you enjoy our hobby / Sport / Target / Hunting activity that we are in.... While I am still putting our facts together on the Gen 1 vs Gen 2 vs Gen 3i .... I can tell you that there are several differences between all of them that provide an improvement or increase ... and there are none that go backward. I believe that there is only price ... and to me ... the increase appears to be greater than the improvements. If they honored your Gen2 price ... you are good. However, if they increased the price and sent the gen 3i ... it means they are now out of gen 2 and could not provide you with the gun you ordered. At this moment, gen 2 is probably only available on eBay or other sites that provide used or overstocked merchandise ... at a lower price. Meanwhile, the biggest problem that I can find on gen 3i is that they continue to increase the power and velocity ... which may have been too high already for something I believe is more important.... accuracy. If you plan to keep your 3i air gun ... anticipate shooting the heaviest pellet or slugs available to keep the speed down with excellent accuracy and energy possible ... out to about 50 yards. You will need a PCP air gun to gain accuracy beyond that range. Dr. Russ
Hello Dr. Russ!! It's always a pleasure to watch your informative videos. But I'm curious: Have you ever shot a Hatsan break barrel rifle? I'm asking you that because I joined the wonderful air gun world through a Hatsan Mod 80 NP break barrel, .22 cal (about 8 years ago). It's an accurate, powerful and sturdy air gun.. I did a lot of pest control and had so much fun with it.. A big salute from Brazil. Kleber.
It is good to hear from you again Kleber ... thanks for sharing .... .I have shot Hatsan break barrels before, but not the Mod 80 .... which has great ratings from owners... I can only assume that the barrel is less than 20 inches long because you bought it 8 years ago ... and that means to me that it is accurate out to approximately 50 yards ... which is great for most back yards ... and a lot of hunting applications ... but unfortunately, my critters are out 80 to 110 yards ... and accuracy requires a longer barrel for me....In fact ... I use longer barrels ... even 30 inches for anything over 100 yards out to 200 yards ... Dr. Russ
I appreciate your videos and your experience. I am trying to figure out which gun would be a good starter. I am retired now and looking for some different hobbies. I am leaning towards a Game Swarm Fusion. In looking at the rifles on Amazon, I see the newer Game 10X GEN 3I Inertia Fed .22 Caliber Break Barrel High Power 10-Shot Pellet Air Gun at 1,000 fps Velocity. Then continuing down the page, I see the exact same listing for the rifle with the exception of this rifle is listed at 1,300 fps. Which am I better off getting? Also, can you tell me the name of the heavy .22 pellets you buy and the best place to get them. I appreciate your wisdom and would love to sit and talk with you some time. I am in Central Fl. Ocala, Fl. to be exact. Thank you!
Hola amigo, como estas, este video fue de mucha ayuda para mí, gracias por compartir tu experiencia con nosotros, deseó que tengas un próspero año 2023, y suludos desde costa rica, gracias
Oh the It stands for inertia driven. So it won't double feed and it's safer . The gen 3 is a great gun you probably know by now.good video informative.
A very informative video as usual. The sweet spot for my Gamo Swarm Whisper is with Gamo Red Fire 7.8 GR pellets. I use this gun for pest control around my house and the targets (rabbits and squirrels) are usually no farther than 20 yards. I have a 22 rifle that shoots a .22 LR so I do not see the need for a .22 air gun. I also managed to mount a Pinty 2.5-10x40 Red Green Illuminated Mil-dot Tactical Rifle Scope with Red Laser Combo to the Whisper. I would not recommend anyone doing this because it required a modification to the scope rings that came with the gun. After citing the scope there was extreme accuracy in conjunction with the laser. Pretty good for a $55 scope bought off Amazon but it would have been easier getting the laser portion from Gamo.
John Doe... it is good to hear from you... and your question is a good one. It really depends on which model and the length of its barrel... One of my "deal breakers" is to have at least a 20 inchj barrel for those extra spins from the rifling. It helps if the rifling is choked if you arent shooting slugs. And also on my deal breaker list ... is a regulator which provides consistent air for each shot. Many air guns do not have great balance ... so it helps to weigh down the stock with rags, baking powder, sand etc... and Gamo has the easiest stock to fill with weight. Crosman's Nitro pistons, even though they are often not regulated, provide good consistent air ... and Hatsans with tubular air tanks are easy to add a regulator to. I hope this helps. Dr. Russ
Great Video. Just bought a gen 2 swarm Magnum .22 10x 3 months ago. Now seeing the new one out I feel like I bought old news but I am sure its decent. I gave it to my Dad to use until I have time. Do you know what the difference is with the new one? I am not concerned as the new one has no open sights, I really wanted open sights as a few people may use this gun... I also have a Crosman Vantage NP in .177 seems good but again more powerful than my basement has space for so I have not shot it a lot. I saw the bearing mod and screw mod for trigger and was told I could buy a .22 barrel for it. Might need one of them to keep the neighbors chickens out of harms way...
Steve Whitford ... it is good to hear from you ... I believe that the gen 3i has a few upgrades ... one that they promote is higher velocity ... but the truth is that I spend a lot of time trying to get the power down into ... what I call the sweet spot.... or accuracy. Velocity above 1000 fps clips the sound barrier and really becomes noisy ... a noise that neighbors and critters do not like... and Gamo wants a lot more money with each generation of swarm air rifles, and so I believe you have a gen 2 ... probably at a good price... and any accuracy problems can be solved with heavier pellets. Try JSB Heavies..... Glad you are sharing this sport with your dad....Dr. Russ
I want to address your interest in trigger pull. I have an American Classic .177 multipump I found in the trash, had maybe a 4lb. pull and couldn't hit the side,of a barn from the stalls inside. I'm a fabricator, and from my spring collections, I found a lighter spring that brought her down to about a pound by just switching it out! Maybe the industry should offer some variable rate springs for the dedicated enthusiasts?
Good to hear from you Gary Chandler.... excellent idea ... because the manufacturers are too safety conscious and some of their air guns have trigger pulls up to 10 lbs.... There are several trigger spring improvements on ebay now ... but I will check on it anyway .... Dr. Russ
After listening to one of your videos for the first time, I subscribed. I like the quietness and accuracy of the Gamo Swarm Gen 2, but I don't like the loader. Does Gamo have something that's as quiet, light, and accurate as the Swarm Gen 2 without the loader?
Gwl325 ... it is good to hear from you. Four answers... first make sure you are pushing your pellets in far enough so that the black rubber retention band is snuggled into the waist line of your pellets. Secondly, the quietness is based upon the lower velocity and the lower caliber at the barrel end... and some type of foam or insulation at the stock end where you put your ear.... Third, Gamo makes a number of rifles that dont have the name "swarm" which require you to put one pellet in at a time directly into the barrel... 4 Accuracy will be a direct result if you have done a number of things with that barrel... It needs to be at least 20 inches long ... the crown at the far end of the barrel has to be smooth ... and the barrel needs to be clean and leaded in .... Dr. Russ
Thank you for the great information. I'm more confident on buying my first air rifle in .22 of course I'm go with the budget friendly Gamo Swarm Whisper. What pellet brand and grain would you recommend for it?
MR Bank FisherMen ... it is good to hear from you again.... Call Pyramid Air and order 3 tins ... and you get the 4th one free. Tell them it is your first order ... gun or pellets or both ... and I believe you will gt 10% off. Order 2 tins of JSB Heavies and 2 tins of JSB Monsters....let us know how you do ... Dr. Russ
I've been plinking and perfecting my shot with 2 brake barrels... A gamo wildcat whisper and Ruger air hawk 2. It started out as a sorta therapeutic thing for me but I have developed the obsession that I had as a child again. That a good thing though right? I shoot at the least, 25 pellets a day but more often Im shooting up to the 75 a day. I love putting the thing where I want it and the process of learning and adjusting. Im now, like most others, wanting to upgrade to a 22 or 25 but I want to find a great 300-400$ package. Was considering ordering a gamo mach 1 .22. What I want for practical purposes is a fun extremely accurate air that can also take down small to medium game in a survival situation. I require accuracy#1, affordability #2, then take down possibility. A heavy 22 should be what I need or should I go 25 cal? Amazon prime is having a sale rn and I am looking to order today to save some money. Any opinions on the matter ...plz lmk
Michael... I have several Gamo break barrels... and one is that 22 Magnum.... it's velocity is too high for good consistent accuracy and smaller groups. I've used the heavies JSB pellets possible... along with Motorcycle chain wax as a lubricant ... in an effort to slow it down to 800 to 950 fps... anything faster causes the pellet to whirl in the air. If it came in 25 cal. it would be easier to find heavier pellets. Consider the Hatsan break barrel in 25 or even 30 cal. Also consider the Umarex Gauntlet Gen 1 or Avenger Gen 1 for that $300 package, plus a scuba tank off of Craigslist to store air. Dr. Russ
Al Rau ... it is good to hear from you again and thanks for sharing... Yes, they are a little more difficult to find but I have tried them and find that they are excellent... They certainly help Gamo's 22 Magnum be more accurate. Dr. Russ
Just getting back in to brake action air riffles, after 40 years, got a Gamo varmint .177 up graded the scope to a Tasko Air 3-9x40 Do not care for the trigger at all. Shooting 15 yards and with a 7.9 gran flat nose am getting 3/8" and 1/2" groups, Want to get a .22 cal. thinking of the Gamo Whisper Fusion Mach 1 Do mostly target practice and some plinking, also have a rat problem so want to try getting a scope I can mount a light on for night shooting with out going over board with the price. I find that with that trigger I have to put a bit of pressure on the shoulder, but just rest on the front hand . This has to be the worst trigger I have ever shot, I mostly shoot .22 lr for target and use the Savage like there accutrigger. But with the cost of ammo here in Canada is getting a bit much and hard to get what I like. ( CCI standard velocity ) So spending a lot more time with the pellet rifle. Thanks for the great video, you are more than welcome to go over thirty minutes, no problem with that for me.
Hilton ... it is good to hear from you and thanks for sharing. Yes, the Gamos have a bad trigger pull. I find that making a short, crisp, snap of their triggers helps me more, even after adjusting what little they allow to be adjusted.. Sounds like you are holding it correctly in what is called the artillery position. I try to get most shooters into the largest caliber possible... because larger and more heavier pellets are more accurate and because there seems to be a trend among shooters to go larger with their next rifle... however, your 177 is sufficient for rats and target practice out to about 20 yards... maybe 30. Stay in touch. Living in the Detroit area, we are the only ones who have to travel south to get into Canada... within about 40 minutes for us... or 5 hours going north... Dr. Russ
Sir , with all respect some of your mentioned information is wrong. Gamo swarm whisper and maxxim both have a 14.5 inch barrel, the rest is just baffling. In modern spring piston/gas ram air rifle manufacturing , the optimal barrel length is 10.5 to 14.5 inch ( optimal power and accuracy). As a matter of fact , Air Arms TX200 utilizes a 9 inch barrel length only. On the contrary in pcp rifles , longer barrels are preferred to optimize power ( muzzle velocity). Thank You for the video.
Paul Karkorian ... it is good to hear from you ... and I am glad to see that you aren't afraid to stand up when you hear something wrong. I have had to admit to some errors before in our videos... its hard to stay on what you want to say when cameras are rolling. However, Pyramid Air advertises that the Gamo Swarm rifles have barrels reflecting 19 and 20 inch lengths as I reported in my review. Just go to Pyramid Air and check each of the Swarm air rifles on the specification page. Now, it is possible that Gamo has misrepresented their barrel lengths to the public and to large distributors like Pyramid.... it is possible ... since I know that they have misrepresented their velocities. If you check my video, I have said "that if you remove the outer barrel, the actual barrel might be shorter ... once you take away the air stripper at the end... and that I don't like that." I don't like misrepresentations on barrel length. I have removed the outer barrel on my 4 gen 2 Swarm Rifles and I find the actual barrels are pretty close to their advertised lengths. I have had springers and gen 1 piston break barrels that have 10 and 14 inch barrels.... but those air guns are not what I was reporting about in this video. Those guns might look cool ... and feel cool .. but they are not more accurate out past 65 yards. Please keep in mind that the engineers found in an air gun manufacturer, total a fraction of the engineers found in our military and private powder sector. Their departments have engineers that number in the hundreds and have been doing their work in departments that have been around for more than a hundred years. Military engineers aren't trying to sell a short barrel gun ... they are trying to design a gun that will win the next war with fewer causalities. Pistols with their short barrels are not even close to a long barrel sniper rifle. I also said " that some air guns have barrels out to 30 plus inches and they are more accurate"... and they are. Longer barrels with the proper twist rate in those barrels allow that bullet, pellet or slug to be spinning like a football when it leaves the barrel and heads down range... and the more spin... the more accurate. Ask a football quarterback that question. I've watched many air gun manufacturers continue to lengthen their barrels as time goes on. The easiest is Hatsan ... (but they are all doing it) whose rifles use to be 17 inches in barrel lengths a dozen years ago ... change to 20 inches about 6 years ago... and now are 23 inches... as the public gets smarter and smarter and videos measure accuracy between brands. The term "optimal barrel length" is a marketing slogan. Their 10 inch barrel has more optimal qualities than the 9 inch barrel etc. ... but not more than an 11 inch barrel. You added the word Optimal power and "ACCURACY" ... however, the manufacturers have not said that ... at least I havent found them saying that. Your belief that longer barrels in PCP's is to optimize power and muzzle velocity. Basically, longer barrels add to more twist opportunity ... more spin ... and maybe more accuracy if the velocity remains in the "Sweet Spot" . My experience tells me that the sweet spot is found in 750 out to about 975 fps ... for the pellet to remain stable in the air ... and maybe a little more if the air gun is shooting slugs and the barrel is not choked. Even Bull Pup designs which appear to have shorter barrels have actually moved the breech back into the stock near the shoulder, in order to keep those barrel lengths as long as possible. Hopefully, this explanation helps you see the importance of barrel lengths... and if you pull out a measuring tape (or check with the specifications of a large distributor) ... you might find out that my report was accurate. Dr. Russ
Paul ...this may help you .... moderated barrels which many of the Gamo Swarm have ... cover the actual smaller barrel ... but that actual smaller barrel runs clear out ... almost to the end of the covering moderated barrel. An air stripper is at the very end of the actual barrel and sends some air and noise back down the moderated barrel. Most have spacers inside the moderated barrel to slow that sound and air down. The moderated barrel is one tool to silence an air rifle ... but is not to be confused with a suppressor ... which looks more like a silencer. The actual air gun barrel does not run up thru a suppressor or silencer. The center of these is just a hole that runs thru the silencer for the pellet or slug to continue its journey ... often with chambers and dampening materials to capture sound. I have often said that air gun sound includes a Ping, Pop, Zing and Stop. The Pop is the loud sound or "crack" that ammo makes when it leaves the barrel. Some Gamo owners believe that the moderated barrel is a suppressor ... and that is not true. They are two different tools to tackle the same job. Actual barrels run thru the length of a moderated barrel on the outside ... and not thru the suppressor. Gamo Swarm Magnums have only a 2 chamber Suppressor and not a moderated barrel.... which is why the magnum is still rated as a 3 or moderate bang along with most of the Swarm family which only have moderated barrels, introduced by the gen 1 Maxxim. The only exception ... and I don't have one or taken one apart is the Fusion.... which appears to have both .... and is rated as a 2 or lower bang..... I suspect its suppressor, like the Magnum also has only 2 empty chambers. One day, you might want to take apart a real suppressor from Donnyfl or one of the other suppressor firms. Their suppressors cost more than a Gamo Swarm Air Rifle. There is a lot to learn in this air gun industry ... and that is what my videos are trying to share. Dr. Russ
Hi Dr. Russ I love your videos keep it up thanks. I currently have a 1st-gen Gamo Maxxin .117 and have been experimenting with heavy pellets H/N Rabbit Magum II just so I can increase the knock down power at 35 - 50 yards (not much luck). But, I've been thinking about upgrading to a entry level pcp and have been looking at the Gamo Arrow and the Aspen Seneca. Have you tried either of these two weapons??
No I havent ... but I have tried the Avenger which I believe is made in the Aspen Seneca factory ... plus the Gauntlets ... all of which have a regulator ... which maybe the feature you are looking for. Be sure to review my video on "Deal Breakers" before you buy your next air gun.. Dr. Russ
My Swarm magnum gen 3 will be here at my house tomorrow. Also have the gen 2 Maxxim. May try them all. The maxxim is getting about a 1 inch group at 31 yards. Will do better im sure with better ammo and scope.
Garrett Finney ... it is good to hear from you ... and I am sure you are right. Please keep us in your air gun experiences loop ... helping us help everyone to stay air gun safe ... sharp ... and silent. Dr. Russ
What about Dieseling a pellet. This is when you put a Q-tip soaked in light weight oil and dab the back of the pellet. I understand it will make the pellet shoot further?
Hey Dr. Russ!!! Great to see you again, and thanks for the excellent video. Just wondering, which air rifle caliber do you use the most, enjoy the most, and find most utilitarian? I've been using a .177 and .22 for most of my small game and pesting but am planning to move on to bigger game such as possums, raccoons, and possibly fox. Supposedly a .22 should be sufficient. I have my doubts. .25 and .30 don't seem to be that much more powerful. Earlier this year you recommended a .357 Benjamin Bulldog for deer. Do you prefer that to the .22 Swarm Magnum for the raccoon, possum, and fox, or is that overkill? Thanks again. Stay Safe, Be Well, God Bless.
Ken Fan ... it is good to hear from you again.... My favorite round ... which is based upon different choices that are available within that caliber ... as well as the dynamics of my back yard and the destructive critters that live there... is the 25 caliber... and secondly the 357 caliber..... I believe the added weights for the 25 caliber over the 22 caliber provide greater foot pounds of energy ... and they harvest more critters because of that.... while air gunners have killed deer ... even with a 177 (I believe by hitting the eye for a brain shot) ... and many have killed deer with the 22 ... they don't share the number of wounded animals. I am sure a 25 would wound some too that didn't get a head shot.... so I don't hunt deer with a 25 ... just critters. The 357 is totally deadly on critters and deer ...but those pellets and slugs are more money too ... and I shoot a great deal ... so cost adds up... and the magazines that hold 25 caliber ammo hold more than the magazines fore 357... and lastly, you need a better back stop for the 357 due to its weight and energy when it hits its targets. Bottom line, consider both calibers in your future ...
Ive had mine for about a year now and i am not dissapointed. Ive watched other videos on choosing pellets and i actually ended up ordering the DIABLO off of amazon sense that seemed to have the best reveiws. Im still struggling with accuracy though. I do alot of squirrel hunting and i have taken down many squirrels with my gamo swarm whisper but here lately it seems i have not had the same accuracy as i have had in the past. Could be due to the way i shoot while sighting the gun in vs leaning up against a tree in the woods to shoot at a squirrel. Any reccomendations on improving accuracy while siting it in to fit my style of hunting in the woods?
Randy Lucas ... it is good to hear from you ... I have three areas that might help you ... First, click onto the small circular photo of me to access our channel ... where you will find two videos that deal with accuracy.... watch both as I am sure there is something there that will help you. Secondly, pellets can change over the years as new equipment replaces old... and in this case, it is all about the exact diameter of the pellet and the exact diameter of your barrel as it gets leaded in ... or as I call it ... smoothed out. This will require you to test the accuracy of some different pellets ... try the heaviest JSB pellets that you can get ... Heavies ... Monsters ... etc. Call one of the big mail order firms like Pyramid Air ... Arizona Air ... Utah Air etc. Lastly, your scope may need adjusting again. They get out of whack if dropped, bumped etc. I have never liked the scopes that come with Gamo's. Watch one of my newer videos and you will see a CV Life Scope that I currently use due to its low price, plus a 15% discount. Be sure it is a shorter scope and not a long one for a break barrel. Your Whisper is a great air rifle ... but these scopes are even better ... and can be removed and put on replacement air guns later ...Keep us in your air gun lnfo loop and let us know if any of these 3 ideas help.... Dr. Russ
Van Lyfe ... it is good to hear from you .... and unfortunately, I havent owned or shot those two pistols yet ... so I cant offer any good advice... I can suggest that you try to win one of the large bore air guns that we are having a drawing on ... which include the AEA Terminator Semi Auto in 30 caliber and the AEA Defender Pistol in 357 magnum caliber.... check out our channel about 2 months ago and review proceedure to enter on a video titled "2 Gifts" ... Dr. Russ
It is good to hear from you Rerun-Hunter ... and you are correct. Regulators in all of them make them very... very accurate. The FX and higher end air guns are often lighter and better machined ... but in the end ... they are very accurate. FX maybe a little more accurate due to its barrels and rifling.... because they seem to be winning all of the competitive shooting events. Dr Russ
I’m having a love hate relationship with my .22 cal gamo swarm whisper I’m shooting jsb heavy’s & tried the jumbo monster’s to slow it down but did not work. I believe it’s the way I’m holding it.
Good Times... using the artillery hold position will help ... and hold it lightly... dont try to hold it tight and control the gun ... let it do its thing. Stay in touch and let us know how you do... Dr. Russ
Christian Liao ... it is good to hear from you ... and thanks for the compliment ... We are providing 3 new videos over the next week ... while preparing for an Iguana Hunt in Fort Lauderdale and a Hog hunt in Lake Okeechobee.... where I believe 5 more videos will be produced.... when all of my air gun knowledge will be used up ... I cant tell you how often I say that to myself ... and then I remember some past experience ... and keep going. Dr. Russ
You mention briefly in this video that you prefer the .25 cal for backyard critters over the .22 cal. I am looking into purchasing a break-barrel rifle and saw that the “Gamo Swarm Fusion 10X, Gen 3i” advertises pushing a .22 cal pellet at 975 fps, which is within (although at the top) of your recommended velocity to maintain accuracy. Do you think using a .22 cal “hunting” pellet at this velocity would handle something like a raccoon or a rabbit in the garden humanely? While I prefer the features listed on this .22 break-barrel over the .25 break-barrel I was looking at (Hatsan Mod 125 Sniper Vortex QE), I don’t want to buy it if it can’t make a humane kill. Thank you.
xdmc005 ... it is good to hear from you and glad to hear that you see the larger picture ... wanting humane kills versus kills. While shooting garden critters will be your focus ... you will probably be target practicing at least as much as hunting. If so, the depth of your yard will likely take your priority. 22 caliber break barrels humanly kill destructive critters out to about 45 yards ... while 25 caliber break barrels will fit that need out to about 65 yards ... and Hatsan has a 30 caliber break barrel that will kill medium size game ... fox, coyote, woodchucks out to about 85 yards. Ammo is more expensive as you increase calibers.... and practice is important in achieving these distances ... please keep us in your loop of air gun experiences... Dr. Russ
Thank you, once again! I really appreciate your taking the time to provide such detailed and thoughtful answers to my questions! I have asked a lot of you through your video comments these last few days and you’ve been responsive beyond expectation! I will likely get the break-barrel in .25, just to be safe. Hopefully one of these companies will release a .25 or .30 in the swarm/speedfire/magfire platform in the near future. I have 1 PCP gun (.357 Benjamin Bulldog), but I like the idea of having a break barrel as a “survival gun”, as you say. The repeater-style platform the .177 and .22 would be much appreciate in the larger caliber one day. We shall see! Thanks again. - Dan
@@xdmc005 It is good to hear from you again... that Bulldog will kill most anything ...so keep that handy. Keep us in your air gun info loop ... Dr. Russ
Ivarivars .... it is good to hear from you ... while 22 cal works and most guides can provide you with break-barrel air rifles in 22 caliber... I have been using 25 caliber. Iguanas are hard to harvest unless shot in the head (Ours during the past two years have gone to a soup kitchen). I would like to upgrade to 30 caliber ... and may next year... but I am concerned about the homes nears these Iguana canals... I will be checking next Iguana hunt with the guide before making this decision... You should probably do the same. Dr. Russ
hello dr russ i have the gamo swarm magnum 10x gen2 in .177 the trigger pull on my rifle is less than 2 ilbs maybe its different for the .22 though im not sure but i thought i would let you know the newer triggers work at least on the .177 variants
Froggy... thanks for the info... the trigger can be adjusted on Gamo's ... particularly when the stock is off. It is good to hear from you ... Dr. Russ
I just bought a gen 1 swarm whisper and I haven’t even opened the box so I could return it to Amazon, do you think it’s worth upgrading to gen 2 and/or magnum for the shorter scope mount so the scope is closer to the barrel?
Wolf ... the price you paid for your air gun and the price for an upgrade to gen2 or gen 3 ... would decide that answer... but generally speaking, I would not. Dr. Russ
Have an aversion to Gamo due to the confusion in their naming conventions for their products. Wish they would introduce some common sense, so that customers could easily understand the differences in the models they produce. Do appreciate your advocacy for heavy pellets to tame the pellet velocities to reasonable subsonic levels.
Good to hear from you David B .... and I agree ... in fact Gamo uses the name "Whisper" on some plain break barrels without the 10X feature. I am guessing that they wanted the public to know how quiet they were ... but that became an official name within the Swarm group. Be sure to watch a video that we released several weeks ago with the title ..."AEA Terminator & Defender Gifts"... in 30 and 357 caliber ... in a drawing on July 31. Dr. Russ
Your right , the Mach1 piston is a 33mm piston but for some reason the Bone Collector G2 , is slightly less power than the Magnum . 22ftlb vs 26ftlb in the Magnum. However the BCG2 rifle is consistently more accurate even to 50 yards its capable of easy 1 inch groups where the Magnum is around 1.5 Inch groups.
Hey Dr. Russ. Had a few questions thgt maybe you could chime in on. I have the gamo fusion gen 2 10x .22cal; i put a vortex crossfire II scope on it. Have you heard of anyone having horrible issues sighting these in past 30yards/100feet? i was trying to sight it in at 50yards; and more and no such luck; no matter how much i messed with it i cld not get it on target. I have thgt about contacting gamo and using the warranty to see if that resolves it. any thoughts? i use 17.6gr+ pellets only. thanks! your videos are super informative & enjoyable to watch.
Kitchi ... my experience is that break barrel rifles are only accurate out to about 30 yards ... the 22 cal is a little better at 35 ... but you may have to upgrade to a pcp air gun to be accurate beyond that ... be sure you review my video on deal breakers ... before you buy... Dr. Russ
@@russjones6497 Thanks so much Dr. Russ. All of your videos are super informative & helpful. I will check that video out on deal breakers :). I am looking at the benjamin marauder .25 pcp. Trying to stretch good accuracy out to 100 yards. Thanks for making videos for all of us.
@@russjones6497 Ended up purchasing a benjamin marauder .25cal wood stock; i rly like the wood stock finish :). absolute joy to shoot. sighted it in at 30 yards easily; at 50yards am hitting quarter size hole placement. at 100yards can consistently hit small apples. great gun & lots of fun. super quiet.
Adam ... it is good to hear from you ,... and yes ... we have been working with a friend who has been making his own lead pellets and slugs ... since I have little time for that project ... ( I know it well since I was casting and loading my own ammo in competition years ago ... but unfortunately, my friend has come down with cancer of the tongue ... and wont be able to continue .... I currently have another viewer working with his 3D machines in designing and making air gun racks that keep the barrels down versus up ... We just finished 3 years in this air gun video area ... and plan to do whatever we can to help air gunners ... Dr. Russ
@@russjones6497 thank you for your reply Dr. Russ. It's good to hear from you. Sad to hear about your friend. I lost a good friend to cancer last year. Terrible disease. And the Barrel down gun racks are a great idea. I myself never thought about the stuff that can get down into the piston and cylinder when the gun is stored with the barrel pointed up. Just not something that crosses your mind unless you are really invested into finding out the absolutely best and most efficient way to care for your rifle to get the longest life and accuracy out of it. I'd also like to make my own pellets some day. I believe you could really tune a pellet or slug that a specific rifle likes to shoot accurately. I appreciate your knowledge and videos Dr. Russ. Keep up the good work.
Dr Ross ,I just discovered your channel , its highly instuctive and amusing, now concerning the fps specs printed on the boxes I believe that the only manufacturer which states the real cipher is Hatsan because they test their guns with lead pellets instead of alloy ones, I must say that I do not have any connection with manufacturers, its only what I have read, carry on with the good job, regards from Chile
George Gandara ... it is good to hear from you.... and you are correct ... Hatsan is the only air gun mfg that provides accurate velocity using lead pellets...at least in the guns from $1000 U.S. dollars and down. I have found accurate info on the more expensive guns like FX, Hueben, and others. Dr. Russ
The reason for the 20" barrel on the m16 wasnt adequate rifling for proper spin, its adequate barrel length to get full powder burn so that the energy of the expanding gasses are transferred as fully into the projectile as possible. The reason for fluting a barrel on hunting rifles isnt to dissipate heat, as you're not going to be firing a bolt action hunting rifle rapidly enough to heat the barrel. The reason for fluting is to cut weight on a barrel while maintaining the advantages that a thicker bull barrel provides.
It is good to hear from you Bayou flats ... and thanks for the thanks.... be sure you know about out drawing for two large bore air guns... click on the small circular photo of me and look for a video two or three ago ... that is titled "Gifts" ... Dr. Russ
Sir i like u haha u make since my fav thing u said was id buy the one cheaper even without waldells name on it yhat was great haha im now following ur broski
Devin Lindsey ... it is good to hear from you ... fortunately I am not on anyone's payroll ... so I hope that means that I give as accurate answer as I can when sharing what I know with our viewers. Please keep us in your air gun info and experiences loop. Dr. Russ
If your interested in a Bone collect with a wood stock You should go to GAMO USA and get a Hunter Extreme Pro. They only have what is in stock but the are one of the nicest Gamo's I've ever seen and on sale for 220.00. This gun is every been a 400.00+ airgun and rivals my German made guns in looks and quality. Been temped to buy a second at that price. The stock is awesome high grade Beech and it feels amazing in my hands. There's not a Weihrauch spring gun I would trade for it, Of course I already have one of the best ones, the HW97K in blue Lament. Little trigger screw mod and it's trigger is right there with the HW97K. Plus I got a 10% off coupon that popped up. Gamo should keep making these guns. No swarm system, but steel breech block and barrel like the old Hunter models.
Charles Outdoor ... thanks for sharing .... I purchased the Bone Collector and agree that the quality looks very nice. I will be doing a review on it in September. Dr. Russ
came out in 2020 and was around about 4 years? just kidding, great video, very fun and informative. can't you make your own pellets for the big bore? wouldn't be hard once the molds are made.
Canke Co.... it is good to hear from you .... and thanks for the idea. In fact, we are working on bringing out our own slugs that are very unique ... called "Destructive Critter Control" within a month. I believe I have found a source for scopes for our viewers ... that have a red dot attached as well as a laser ... 4x16 variable with 50mm lens ... and an aol front lens.... mil dot ... all for $85 each ... so ... yes I am calling my contacts to help our viewers get some great accessories for low prices. Please write again ... sharing any air gun experience you have had... Dr. Russ
Alan Allen ... it is good to hear from you. The answer to your question is a bit complicated ... I prefer to shoot ground hogs with 25 and 357 calibers. The distance is also important. I believe a 22 caliber will do it at 35 yards and 117 will do it about 10 yards. Placement also has to be a part of the answer .... you need to be very accurate on these tough hide rodents as they are tough to kill and tough to confirm a kill... as they often crawl back into their holes ... or are dragged by other ground hogs. Head shots are important as body shots will rarely kill a ground hog. Lastly, slugs are better than pellets. Consider checking one of our recent videos titled "AEA Terminator and Defender Gifts" to learn how you can be in our current drawing for a Semi Auto 30 cal Terminator and a 357 Defender pistol. Also consider watching another video of ours about Hatsan 44 Long where I take out a Wood Chuck at 92 yards... Dr. Russ
JVBL1 ... I will be launching a video on the Gamo Bone Collector in 22 caliber in 2 weeks ... I will provide info on what other Gamo Swarm 3i owners have shared with me along with some of my own research. So far, it appears that owners of gen 1 ... and gen 2 are enjoying their Gamo air guns. I believe Gamo is making the most of their 10X magazine with their Swarm air rifles ... and they are increasing their prices considerably over each generation.... perhaps more than the next generation is worth. Meantime, Crosman has come out with their Mag-Fire break barrel with a pellet magazine ... as has Hatsan. These are the 3 largest air gun manufacturers in the world. Be sure you check and compare the specifications of all 3 before you buy ... and be sure you review one of my videos that identifies "Deal Breakers" in buying your next air gun. Sometimes air gun enthusiasts buy on impulse versus research. Dr. Russ
JVBL1 ... I think you will find the review video you are looking for ... among my last 3 videos ... which provides a comparison between Gamo Swarm's 3 generations. Dr. Russ
I KNEW my Swarm Whisper .22 was coming with a junk scope, but I thought I'd be able to use it for a while until I could afford a new one. Wrong. It won't even focus better than a coat of Vaseline. A silly joke, at best. The rifle, my first breakbarrel, I love dearly! Already have a PCP, and this is comparable!
Theoben originally came out with air pistons in the late 80s, they were incredibly expensive but great guns. However, just like today's air pistons they don't seem to have the longevity of a good mechanical spring.
Dr Russ even brake barrel it hard to see the pellet in flite specially 1200 fps black out farry 2 you have copper head pellet to see with nake eye yes that one other of my air gun be for hit bulldog 357 i like them both the black out farry 2 3x 39 center point scope other people hate them but it work for well enough to hit target but on bulldog 357 its swiss army scope 4 x 40 good glass it rate for 600 yard will i shoot up 600 sadly not make 300 yard only with lot practices thumb up
Many things I know from experience (but much more to learn) being 74 yrs old but I can listen intently to your videos well past 30 minutes. Russ, you have an infectious demeanor that holds attention. Where were you when I was attempting to grasp physics in college?
Dan ... thanks for the compliment ... some good videos planned this year... and we hope they have value for you ... Dr. Russ
Hello, old friend, it's funny I just picked up a Gamo Shadow Whisper for my birthday yesterday and I got to say I was amazed just how quiet this thing is, well I'm used to how loud my dragon claw is. Also, I have a longer lk5 3d printer I'm learning how to use, Who says you can't teach an old dog new tricks. Thanks again for the video and God bless sir.
It is good to hear from you Tasan Ali ... you will have to share those success stories using your new 3d printer... and thanks for the compliment ... Dr. Russ
Dr. Russ you never fail to entertain and (more importantly) educate me in just about every video! I've loved my Titan for years and struggled with scopes until I picked up the BSA you recommended, and I've never been happier (and more consistently accurate). I can't thank you enough for helping me be a better airgunner sir!!
Skunk Five ... it is good to hear from you and glad you are enjoying your Benjamin... be sure to check out one of our recent videos with AEA Gifts in the title ... which will show you how to enter a drawing we have on two AEA air guns ... the Terminator ... semi auto .. in 30 caliber and the Defender pistol in 357 magnum caliber... Dr. Russ
You're absolutely right, Dr. Russ. Longer barrels are crucial for a good accuracy. Cheers!!
Do you have a link for the scope you bought? I'm looking to upgrade at a reasonable price. Tks
@@marcaustin "BSA Optics Outlook 3-9x40 Adjustable Objective Air Rifle Scope" should find it for you. Dr Russ stressed the AO aspect of the scope and it's been a game-changer
@@skunkfive9670 Thank You ! I'm gonna pick one up
Ps Dr Russ, the IGT stands for Inert Gas Technology. In the UK, BSA airguns called their version the GRT, Gas Ram Technology and their Lightning XL grt se in .22 is brilliant. 👍🏼🇬🇧🇺🇸🇬🇧🇺🇸
Emay Russell ... always good to hear from you ... thanks for the clarity on Gamo's and BSA's pistons.... Dr. Russ
Birmingham small arms BSA my first bike 65 lightning
Dr.Russ I have a Gamo bone collector gen 2 and it is extremely accurate. I think you will love the beautiful wood stock .
John Terhark ... Yes, mine has arrived and it is beautiful. I should have a review on it soon. Be sure to watch a recent video with the title AEA Terminator and Defender Gifts ... as it will share with you our current drawing for these two airguns ... including the Terminator Semi Auto in 30 cal. and the Defender Pistol in 357 caliber... Dr. Russ
This guy is the best one on YT. Hands down. Wealth of information.
Gearracing.... thanks for the compliment ... Dr. Russ
THANK YOU Dr Russ for you wealth of information and insight into air gun shooting and your experiences. I have ordered the Gamo Swarm Maxxim Gen 2 - .22cal and its on the way as well as owning/using a Benjamin N2 .22 cal rifle since 2015. I have taken down right at 500 grey squirrels on my property since 2015 and the "grey's" have declared war on me and are coming for my garden, bird feeders, apple and pear trees and engine bays on my vehicles. You have answered several important questions for me and I appreciate you putting this video out very much!! I will stay tuned.....
It is good to hear from you Marvin Davis ... plug up those exhaust pipes or mice etc will turn them into winter homes...Thanks for sharing ... please continue .. Dr. Russ
Interesting and informative. Thanks for sharing your expertise!
Leonardokite ... good to hear from you again... Dr. Russ
Love the video. You remind me a lot of my father with how he would talk with me about shooting and life both at the same time.
Thank you Tune for that compliment ... Dr. Russ
Thanks for another great video. I'm glad you talk about the artillery hold in several of your videos, I have to remind myself to lighten up my hold on my break barrel guns all the time. Accuracy is definitely better with a lighter grip.
Dennis L ... it is good to hear from you.... Lighter is better ... but focus on consistent hold. Everything has to be consistent in your hold. Lightness helps consistency... but also focus on where and how you are holding your rifle. Also watch my video on 7 Accuracy Tips with Gamo.... as well as another on Accuracy that covers even more tips. When you let out a third of your breath ...consider touching the roof of your mouth with the tip of your tongue... which gives you about 3 to 4 seconds of consistent hold. Keep in touch ... Dr. Russ
I absolutely LOVE your videos! I've gleaned so much information from all of these educational videos. Air guns are new to me. I'm 63 years old so I had the old school air guns when I was a kid. Thank you for the education. Rev
Guyallphin ... it is good to hear from you and thanks for the compliment ...Dr. Paula are working on our next 3 ... hopefully they will be even better ... please stay in touch ... I am 78 and have a great passion for this sport... Keep in mind that there are several groups here and we are trying to respond to all .... target practice ... critter control ... large game ... competition shooting ... and defense. Please stay in touch... Dr. Russ
Hey Doc,
Always enjoy your videos, thanks.
Rudy
Rudy ... always good to hear from you again... thanks for the compliment ... Dr. Russ
Excellent video Dr. Russ thank you for everything you do to promote this great sport!
Good to hear from you again Anthony. When I started these videos, I planned to do six .. primarily for our 15 grand kids which are scattered about the country... but that turned into 80 videos in 2 and a half years ... hearing from great air gunners like yourself... Dr. Russ
Sir , thx for your reply.
I think you and I are in a total different understanding about airgun physics and dynamics, and that’s fine , no worries.
Take care.
It is good to hear from you Paul Karkorian ... really ... Dr. Russ
This is Defnitly the best airgun channel out, thank you sir for all the details and very quick and easy to understand
Love it
I had the Gen 1 Gamo Swarm Whisper, 22 cal, and LOVED it. I only sold it to get my first PCP.
Angelo ... you may have sold the most accurate Gamo Swarm break barrel that they make... keep your eyes out for some bargains this summer when Gamo introduces their Gen 3i air guns... Dr. Russ
@@drsrussandpaula Cool, thanks!
@@drsrussandpaula I got the gen 1 .22 at Walmart yesterday for like 160💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
Another video full of informative content. I love how you say something then explain what you said. You would've made a great school teacher. Going to a gun show tomorrow to hopefully sell some surplus equipment I have then I'll be ordering a cap and shirt if you still have any left.God Bless you and yours.Till the next video take care.
Good to hear from you Russell Horner... what a great first name you have...lol....God bless Gun Shows and the opportunity that they provide... Stay in touch... DR. Russ
Thanks for the video.
Obadiah Smith ... good to hear from you again ... and thanks for the compliment... Dr. Russ
Another entertaining video Dr. Russ! I have several Gamo rifles and if they have the CAT (Custom Action Trigger) you can install a slightly longer trigger screw which will allow you to adjust those triggers down to 1 pound or less.
Keith Stanley .. it is good to hear from you ... and thanks for the tip on triggers... A light trigger between one and two lbs can really ... really ... help accuracy. I should include that lighting up a trigger also adds to upping your safety precautions... thanks for sharing the tip... Dr. Russ
Red for .177 and green .22 in the gamos thanks for the video great tips 😎👍🏻
Fill the 72 with solder make into a round nose
Peter ... good to hear from you again... and thanks for the tip on my 72 hollow head slugs... Dr. Russ
Interesting video again Dr Russ thank you. Just wondering if you've heard the UK is facing an almost total ban on the use of lead ammo. Shotgun shells, live ammo and air rifle ammo. All going! I dont know where our sport is heading here in the UK but it doesnt look good.
Emay ... that lead issue in UK is not good... and I know it makes some of the biggest lead pellet manufacturers in the world upset... Hopefully it doesn't come to the U.S. ... however California has warning labels on all lead pellets and slugs. All of those other pellets are made of lighter materials and it will be difficult to get a break barrel velocity down into your sweet spot... 725 up to 1025 fps... keep us in your loop... Dr. Russ
@@drsrussandpaula . Its crazy Dr Russ. In the UK there are thousands of old houses that still have lead drinking water supply pipes. Yet these lead pipes are not on the agenda for being replaced. So our government is thinking it is safer to drink our water through lead pipes that it is to shoot with lead ammo?? Crazy times ahead!
Total scam & part of the wider "net 0 carbon emissions" which in effect will control/restrict ALL areas of our lives from travel, where you can live, where you can work, monitored & watched 24/7 under the guise of "saving the planet" (note greta thunberg & the other climate talk heads use private jets to attend their meetings where they tell you, that you cannot use your car - thus using more fuel in 1 x journey than most do in a lifetime) - look into how many homes in London use LEAD PIPING for their water supply - no ban on that - no government scheme to replace ALL the lead pipes that peoples water they drink everyday comes from/clean with, but yet they gonna ban lead airgun pellets... as though that is somehow going to stop the wildfires, droughts & floods!!! total mind control for the nwo. Note also when they banned license owned guns in 96 as a result of the Dunblane massacre...carried out by Thomas Hamilton ... who was a freemason. They took law abiding citices guns when there was no gun crime - now they are illegal there is record gun crime, they going to ban airgun pellets for when the chaos comes they want you totally defenceless.
You are an insane wealth of knowledge. I appreciate your ability to explain all these differences that most non gun owners have no idea about. I own a couple of 10 shot revolvers for plinking and a Byrna for protection so far but am looking for an accurate rifle for raccoons in the backyard. Great explanations. And thanks
Some ignorance stated here! “Speed IS where it’s at !! More speed, high grain pellets can be used to equate to higher FPE! Pretty simple.
Rented Mule ... thanks for the feed back. As a competitive shooter and a hunter ... my personal experience is the need for accuracy ... for bullseyes and head shots ... and energy, while it is a great thing ... comes in second behind accuracy with my air gunning. So I want the heaviest pellet inside my gun's sweet spot of velocity ... This combo typically gives both accuracy and energy. Please stay in touch. Dr. Russ
I think thats what he said bro... not too fast "but does the job" .and not too slow... "sweet spot"... you ever shoot a real gun or seen somthing shot...
Big wholes are more messy... and too small cal. Too fast will go strait threw... but with both speed or weight its where you hit... head behind the ear with 22. Dead... head blown off with 50. Still dead
9mm is a good example... its in the middle kinda... i got 2 freinds that both got shot 5 times and lived... my other boy got 1 in the lung and did not...
Placement TRUE EXAMPLES too :/
I love your videos. They are truthful and informative. Thank you for the time and effort in making them.
John's Budget Airguns & Archery .... it is good to hear from you ... and thanks for the compliments.... please keep us in your air gun info loop ... Dr. Russ
Very nice video I have a swarm fusion 10x gen2 and a gamo varmint love them both would like to get the bone collector
Barry Shank.... you own 2 very good air guns... I just received the Bone Collector ... and will be doing a review on it soon... Dr. Russ
I just finished mounting a Tatsu to my Maxxim Gen2 last night. Worth the hassle IMO but I already had three Donnyfl suppressors sitting around. Took some shots earlier and the moved a zero just a tad lower/left but no other ill effects thus far.
Good to hear from you C K ... and glad you were able to make a DonnyFL Suppressor work on a break barrel... You might be the first ... and I know it is silent now... congratulations... thanks for sharing ... Dr. Russ
@@drsrussandpaula I sent a photo over to Donny, we will see if he confirms! Who knows, maybe it will help push an adapter to market. I would buy one without question.
@@ck2503 Keep us in the loop ... Thanks for pursuing this... Dr. Russ
Love your hat today doc. Great video. I wanted to know about the crosman nitro piston because I have one. Thanks for your enlightening information buddy. Take care.
Good to hear from you again Adam... I love mine too ....and will plan more reviews on the piston air rifles... Dr. Russ
Thanks Doc that was interesting if you get a chance sometime can you cover the Venture air rifles.
I have both 22 and 25 Air Venture Avenger air rifles and just lost out in a bidding war for Avenger's newer Generation 2 that looks like a Bull Pup...Videos are scheduled here in 2022. Dr. Russ
👍😉 thanks Dr.Russ
Markie 1712 ... it is good to hear from you again.... Dr. Russ
Thank you again for the good words!
Lewis ... always good to hear from you .... thanks for the compliment. Dr. Russ
All my 22 caliber guns seem to like the Crosman Hollowpoints 14.3 grains . My Hatsan AT 44 QE long in 22 is very accurate with these pellets . I shoot grey squirrels over my back fence at 50 to 55 yards with no problems . In my experience I have noticed that guns with Loather Walther barrels seem to prefer better quality pellets . My Gen 1 Maxxim in .177 caliber really likes the budget pellets 9.6 grain Winchester / Daisy brand. A mystery to me ?
It is good to hear from you Doe Dokes ... the Crosman Hollow points are very accurate in many air guns because they are consistent in weight and the hollow point is very, very small. The Crosman Domes are also consistent and if you want a very small improvement in a tighter group, you might try that. Walther barrels seem to like JSB or Vortex pellets... Dr. Russ
Dr Rus I absolutely love your vids since I found you channel 7 days ago so I’d like to ask a few Qs.
1- What’s the chance you can do a comparison with the cfx/car to the whispers?
2- What’s also the best weight/grain range for the high ft p/s .177 cal?
I have a game zombie (big Cat) and a cfx both in .177 and I think they are high in there ft p/s advertising gimmick lol hence the above Q’s
Bennon Lapworth it is good to hear from you ... and I hope you share some of your air gun experiences with us ... helping us to help everyone stay air gun safe, sharp and silent. I don't have the cfx/car on our schedule over the next 2 months ... so it might come in the fourth quarter of this year. Be sure to watch a recent video with the title AEA Terminator & Defender Gifts ... as it will share with you the method to enter our drawing for a semi auto 30 caliber and a 357 magnum pistol.... Dr Russ
I just bought a Gamo extreme hunter pro last week Gamo had them $100.00 off not shot it yet but it’s a heavy gun and takes 41 pounds to cock but seems like more than that I really like the nice looking wood stock it has
John ... it is good to hear from you and I know the beauty of that gun ... please keep us in your air gun experience loop when you sight it in... Dr. Russ
Nice gun congrats ! I have the older version Gamo Hunter Extreme .177 caliber since 2009 . Upgraded scope and trigger .
They still have it on sale.
I picked the Swarm Fusion 3i
My confirmation email was from Crosman.
As far as I've seen, GAMO advertises their Magnum springers at 1600, not the Maxxim. The Maxxim is advertised at 1100 with alloy, an asumed 800 with lead. yes, still an exaggeration, but not as much as 1600 vs 600 would be. I got the Gamo Swarm Magnum 10x Gen 2 recently (in part due to your videos and testing with it), and am so far happy with the results I've gotten. Haven't been able to shoot it with an optic yet, though I did buy one (Leapers 4x32 AO). Looking forward to that. Also, big thanks for the information on the Gen 3i!
Another thing, the AEA Zeus 72 cal has the same diameter barrel as a 12 gauge shotgun. I'd try shooting a 12 gauge slug for the best results, as the gun itself puts out the same power as a 12 gauge. Not to mention, you're gonna get 12 gauge slugs for cheaper than slugs targeted at the airgun audience.
xdskoot ... it is good to hear from you ... All of the Swarm group are gas piston air guns ... I believe some of their older break barrels are springers. and unfortunately, Gamo is known for overstating their pellet velocities ... which is sad to me because that is what they push when getting buyers to upgrade to gen 2 and will for gen 3 too. You are going to enjoy your Leapers AO scope... Dr. Russ
@@xdskroot7247 ... my experience so far is that actual shotgun slugs maybe too heavy for the 12 gauge air guns. One viewer has suggested getting 12 gauge hollow points and filling the front hole with solder ... or epoxy glue ... to turn it into a round nose. I havent tried either yet ... but may. Until then, shooting hollow points in rifles is like throwing an open umbrella into the wind. Dr. Russ
@@drsrussandpaula I'm looking at the advertised specs on the official site for the AEA Zeus. They say it does about 870 fps with an 870 grain "pellet". Seeing as I'm more used to grams than grains for shotgun ammunition, I translated that over to grams. 870 grains comes out to just over 56 grams. Seeing as 12 gauge slugs are made to do around 1500 fps (with exceptions), and weigh between 24 and 36 grams, I believe the weight of the slug wouldn't be a problem for the Zeus. One thing that might make it shoot different from a standard Zeus projectile would be how it grips the rifling, aerodynamics, etc. It'll take some testing to find what works and what doesn't, but we do that with every airgun, why not a the 72 cal powerhouse that is the Zeus.
@@xdskroot7247 ... good point ... my only concern .. and I am not an engineer ... is that pellets and slugs range in width by several hundreds.... so 72 caliber isn't necessarily equal to an actual 12 gauge.... and maybe a 12 gauge slug isn't necessarily 72 caliber.... so if I were in your place... I would start by seeing if you can push a 12 gauge slug down the barrel of a Zeus ... before actually firing it. Secondly, I would put a little silicone or bullet lube on it before pushing it thru or firing it thru the Zeus Barrel. XDSkroot ... please ... without getting yourself hurt ... please share your safe testing results with us... Dr. Russ
You do a good video dr very clear picture and voice just came across your video recently
Wayne Summers ... it is good to hear from you ... and thanks for the compliment ...please stay in touch ...Dr. Russ
Dr.russ , thanks for all that valuable info I have the 30 cal Hatsan carnivore I can tell you that rifle is a killer .. it's a little heavy but I like it like that , from the generation I come from ( 60s ) we don't complain too much you just rest a little more .. anyway !! keep sending you videos and we'll keep watching 🐗🐐🐓🦎 🌎 🇵🇷👍
Pedro cruz ... it is good to hear from you and thanks for sharing. I dont have a Hatsan carnivore ... but it is on my wish list ... and yes those Hatsan rifles are heavy ... but excellent accuracy ... especially with that QE barrel... Dr. Russ
I just traded my Magnum gen3i in because I was getting dinner plate sized groupings. Picked up the whisper swarm .22 and still trying to break it in I think. I had the Swarm Fushion .22 and it was my favorite. But I traded that it in hopes that getting the Magnum was a worth while trade. Turned out to be a horrible decision. I lost my Fushion which I could keyhole 10 shots one after another with. Now I'm back to quarter size groups at 25 yards. This air gun world can be frustrating and tricky! Thank you for all of you videos. They've helped me greatly.
Adam Lawrence... The Gamo rifles ... like many others has a rough rifling that requires several hundred rounds fired thru it to polish those edges.... Use a bullet lube to help with that process... and use it consistently .... use the heaviest pellets possible with a light oil.... and remember to store your rifle with barrel down ... and not up ... perhaps with a cloth at the end of the barrel to catch any draining oil.... keep in touch with your progress... Dr. Russ
@@drsrussandpaula Thank you Dr. Russ. I plan on giving the Magnum another go again when I can afford to pick up another. I've been running lots of pellets through my new Swarm Whisper .22 and it is straightening up. I let my impatience get the best of me with the air rifle I wanted most! I will certainly be giving it a go again! God bless you and your family Dr. Russ. I appreciate all of your videos and help.
I would double check on where the Crosman/Benjamin is made. Their breakbarrels started out made in China, Then the NP'2 were assembled in the US with a mix of US and China parts. They did a video showing the quality checks and assy in the US when the The Trail NP2 came out. I don't know if any are made/assembled in the US anymore. After PCP's took off break barrels was put on the back burner for most companies, But Gamo keeps making improvements to theirs even if just a little here and their.
Charles ... good point. I believe Crosman has brought out a Mag Fire break barrel and Hatsan has come out with one too ... but not 3 like Gamo. Dr. Russ
@@drsrussandpaula Yeah, Gamo put them one the spot when they brought out the Swarm mag feed and left them scrambling to catch up. I don't know what VooDoo magic Gama has done to make lightweight magnum breakbarrels much less hold sensitive/easier to achieve accuracy normally found in a 14 FPE spring gun, but to me that's the biggest improvement in the history of break barrels. I gave up on 27-28 FPE break barrels and went to 14 FPE for accuracy. Now I've got to of these Gamo Magnums getting real close to my 14 FPE bench guns and they don't weigh 13 pounds scoped.
@@charlesoutdoors2424 Thanks for sharing... keep us in your loop. Dr. Russ
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Thank you for the good content, can't wait for more spring air rifle videos.
Aiop / Lior .... thanks for commenting ... more spring rifles coming... Dr. Russ
Dr russ did you have a y trigger issues with the np2 n if so how'd you fix it? I have an np2 all videos concerning the np2 have to do with the trigger. With kick from this airgun a heavier pellet is needed to get better accuracy i think ,otherwise its like shooting a pumper at those fsps.
Jerry Purnell ... it is good to hear from you...and I hate to share this with you ... but Crosman break barrels have lousy triggers and often have to be replaced with others (Charley brand comes to mind) ... or allow a trained gunsmith to work on your existing trigger... keep in touch and let us know how you do... Dr. Russ
I’ve been using a 3i bone collector these last few days and it is outstanding. The scope it came with was their zoom, and it failed after 200 rounds. Other than that I think this rifle has that sweet spot you were talking about.
It is good to hear from you again Joshua Waters..... and I am glad you found the right rifle with the right sweet spot... Dr. Russ
I'm in north east indiana. Love your content, good to see a stand up guy sharing knowledge.
Good to hear from you Bryant Tate .... and thanks for the compliment... please keep in touch ... sharing any air gun info you have... Dr. Russ
Thank you for the wisdom.
K9 Malinois .... good to hear from you ... please stay in touch... always good to hear from a good dog lover. Dr. Russ
Benji NP was my first air gun
It is good to hear from you Richard Rude ... I have several Benjamin break barrels and recently received the multi shot Benjamin which competes directly with Gamo's Swarm 10X multi shots. My biggest complaint with NP and NP-2 are the triggers... and often do better when replaced with other brands. I am anxious to do the review on my new Benjamin Mag Shot to see if that trigger has been redesigned... Stay in touch .. Dr. Russ
Great educational video as usual.
I am curious what pellets you used here. I'm a fan of heavier pellets but not sure where the sweet spot is. Some I believe can be too heavy for the spring/piston from what I hear. I like 25 grain Diablo i think they are right now in my Ruger Impact 22 cal. Looking to get something different now. That Ruger was my first air gun since in my teens. ( a few decades ago)
Erikvaldur .... Each type of air gun has a sweet spot range where the pellets are most accurate .... and that range is 850 up to 950. Assuming you dont have a velocity meter to start this project... you need to have a half dozen different weight pellets .... align them from lightest to heaviest ... and shoot at a half dozen targets at approximately 35 yards... they should get tighter groups as you increasing shoot heavier pellets.... from there you want to experiment with different brand pellets in that weight class. Softer lead allows the skirt to spread out easier and make contact with the rifling.... Dr. Russ
Just so people know, the Gamo Swarm Magnum does have baffles/ air stripers in the built on suppressor. Not saying they do alot because there quiet anyhow. Most of the noise of a break barrel will come from the action of the piston slamming forward, and that's not alot either and the sound of the pellet hitting your target. Any Gamo that uses this suppressor on the end will have red cone baffles. I take mine out to clean the barrel.
Charles Outdoor, thanks for the update. The Gamo Swarm break barrel I took apart did not have baffles in it ... perhaps there is a difference between calibers or years manufactured. Dr. Russ
@@drsrussandpaula The ones like the swarm magnums have a red set of cone baffles you can see thru the side. Not sure about the others. I think it does more as an air stripper than make it quite, but the Brits swear by them even on break barrels.
@@charlesoutdoors2424 Thanks for the heads up... Dr. Russ
I am new to this air rifle discussion, except I have a 60-year-old air rifle that I got when I was a kid. Today I received a new Gamo Rifle I ordered on Amazon. I ordered the Gamo Swarm Magnum G2 .22, Multi, 0.22, and I received the Gamo Swarm Magnum Gen3i 22 cal. I have looked high and far for information on the differences between the two air rifles. This is why I came to your RUclips site because I put a question in the Search box (Gamo Swarm Gen 2 vs 3i. After I watched your presentation I still have no idea what the differences are? Hoping you can fill me in now that the 3i has been released!
Thank You for your answer in advance.
Bill ... it is good to hear from you ... and I hope you enjoy our hobby / Sport / Target / Hunting activity that we are in.... While I am still putting our facts together on the Gen 1 vs Gen 2 vs Gen 3i .... I can tell you that there are several differences between all of them that provide an improvement or increase ... and there are none that go backward. I believe that there is only price ... and to me ... the increase appears to be greater than the improvements. If they honored your Gen2 price ... you are good. However, if they increased the price and sent the gen 3i ... it means they are now out of gen 2 and could not provide you with the gun you ordered. At this moment, gen 2 is probably only available on eBay or other sites that provide used or overstocked merchandise ... at a lower price. Meanwhile, the biggest problem that I can find on gen 3i is that they continue to increase the power and velocity ... which may have been too high already for something I believe is more important.... accuracy. If you plan to keep your 3i air gun ... anticipate shooting the heaviest pellet or slugs available to keep the speed down with excellent accuracy and energy possible ... out to about 50 yards. You will need a PCP air gun to gain accuracy beyond that range. Dr. Russ
Hello Dr. Russ!! It's always a pleasure to watch your informative videos. But I'm curious: Have you ever shot a Hatsan break barrel rifle? I'm asking you that because I joined the wonderful air gun world through a Hatsan Mod 80 NP break barrel, .22 cal (about 8 years ago). It's an accurate, powerful and sturdy air gun.. I did a lot of pest control and had so much fun with it.. A big salute from Brazil. Kleber.
It is good to hear from you again Kleber ... thanks for sharing .... .I have shot Hatsan break barrels before, but not the Mod 80 .... which has great ratings from owners... I can only assume that the barrel is less than 20 inches long because you bought it 8 years ago ... and that means to me that it is accurate out to approximately 50 yards ... which is great for most back yards ... and a lot of hunting applications ... but unfortunately, my critters are out 80 to 110 yards ... and accuracy requires a longer barrel for me....In fact ... I use longer barrels ... even 30 inches for anything over 100 yards out to 200 yards ... Dr. Russ
I appreciate your videos and your experience. I am trying to figure out which gun would be a good starter. I am retired now and looking for some different hobbies. I am leaning towards a Game Swarm Fusion. In looking at the rifles on Amazon, I see the newer Game 10X GEN 3I Inertia Fed .22 Caliber Break Barrel High Power 10-Shot Pellet Air Gun at 1,000 fps Velocity. Then continuing down the page, I see the exact same listing for the rifle with the exception of this rifle is listed at 1,300 fps. Which am I better off getting? Also, can you tell me the name of the heavy .22 pellets you buy and the best place to get them. I appreciate your wisdom and would love to sit and talk with you some time. I am in Central Fl. Ocala, Fl. to be exact. Thank you!
Great video! I really like my Gamo, been experimenting with various types of pellets
Tenk Draftsdeep .... it is good to hear from you ... share your lessons learned with us... Dr. Russ
Hola amigo, como estas, este video fue de mucha ayuda para mí, gracias por compartir tu experiencia con nosotros, deseó que tengas un próspero año 2023, y suludos desde costa rica, gracias
Oh the It stands for inertia driven. So it won't double feed and it's safer . The gen 3 is a great gun you probably know by now.good video informative.
A very informative video as usual. The sweet spot for my Gamo Swarm Whisper is with Gamo Red Fire 7.8 GR pellets. I use this gun for pest control around my house and the targets (rabbits and squirrels) are usually no farther than 20 yards. I have a 22 rifle that shoots a .22 LR so I do not see the need for a .22 air gun. I also managed to mount a Pinty 2.5-10x40 Red Green Illuminated Mil-dot Tactical Rifle Scope with Red Laser Combo to the Whisper. I would not recommend anyone doing this because it required a modification to the scope rings that came with the gun. After citing the scope there was extreme accuracy in conjunction with the laser. Pretty good for a $55 scope bought off Amazon but it would have been easier getting the laser portion from Gamo.
Dr.Russ which one is better quality, RWS, GAMO, Benjamin, HATSAN, I prefer a springer, or nitro power, lots of power. Thanks
John Doe... it is good to hear from you... and your question is a good one. It really depends on which model and the length of its barrel... One of my "deal breakers" is to have at least a 20 inchj barrel for those extra spins from the rifling. It helps if the rifling is choked if you arent shooting slugs. And also on my deal breaker list ... is a regulator which provides consistent air for each shot. Many air guns do not have great balance ... so it helps to weigh down the stock with rags, baking powder, sand etc... and Gamo has the easiest stock to fill with weight. Crosman's Nitro pistons, even though they are often not regulated, provide good consistent air ... and Hatsans with tubular air tanks are easy to add a regulator to. I hope this helps. Dr. Russ
Great Video. Just bought a gen 2 swarm Magnum .22 10x 3 months ago. Now seeing the new one out I feel like I bought old news but I am sure its decent. I gave it to my Dad to use until I have time. Do you know what the difference is with the new one? I am not concerned as the new one has no open sights, I really wanted open sights as a few people may use this gun... I also have a Crosman Vantage NP in .177 seems good but again more powerful than my basement has space for so I have not shot it a lot. I saw the bearing mod and screw mod for trigger and was told I could buy a .22 barrel for it. Might need one of them to keep the neighbors chickens out of harms way...
Steve Whitford ... it is good to hear from you ... I believe that the gen 3i has a few upgrades ... one that they promote is higher velocity ... but the truth is that I spend a lot of time trying to get the power down into ... what I call the sweet spot.... or accuracy. Velocity above 1000 fps clips the sound barrier and really becomes noisy ... a noise that neighbors and critters do not like... and Gamo wants a lot more money with each generation of swarm air rifles, and so I believe you have a gen 2 ... probably at a good price... and any accuracy problems can be solved with heavier pellets. Try JSB Heavies..... Glad you are sharing this sport with your dad....Dr. Russ
I want to address your interest in trigger pull. I have an American Classic .177 multipump I found in the trash, had maybe a 4lb. pull and couldn't hit the side,of a barn from the stalls inside. I'm a fabricator, and from my spring collections, I found a lighter spring that brought her down to about a pound by just switching it out!
Maybe the industry should offer some variable rate springs for the dedicated enthusiasts?
Good to hear from you Gary Chandler.... excellent idea ... because the manufacturers are too safety conscious and some of their air guns have trigger pulls up to 10 lbs.... There are several trigger spring improvements on ebay now ... but I will check on it anyway .... Dr. Russ
After listening to one of your videos for the first time, I subscribed. I like the quietness and accuracy of the Gamo Swarm Gen 2, but I don't like the loader. Does Gamo have something that's as quiet, light, and accurate as the Swarm Gen 2 without the loader?
Gwl325 ... it is good to hear from you. Four answers... first make sure you are pushing your pellets in far enough so that the black rubber retention band is snuggled into the waist line of your pellets. Secondly, the quietness is based upon the lower velocity and the lower caliber at the barrel end... and some type of foam or insulation at the stock end where you put your ear.... Third, Gamo makes a number of rifles that dont have the name "swarm" which require you to put one pellet in at a time directly into the barrel... 4 Accuracy will be a direct result if you have done a number of things with that barrel... It needs to be at least 20 inches long ... the crown at the far end of the barrel has to be smooth ... and the barrel needs to be clean and leaded in .... Dr. Russ
Thank you for the great information. I'm more confident on buying my first air rifle in .22 of course I'm go with the budget friendly Gamo Swarm Whisper. What pellet brand and grain would you recommend for it?
MR Bank FisherMen ... it is good to hear from you again.... Call Pyramid Air and order 3 tins ... and you get the 4th one free. Tell them it is your first order ... gun or pellets or both ... and I believe you will gt 10% off. Order 2 tins of JSB Heavies and 2 tins of JSB Monsters....let us know how you do ... Dr. Russ
I've been plinking and perfecting my shot with 2 brake barrels... A gamo wildcat whisper and Ruger air hawk 2. It started out as a sorta therapeutic thing for me but I have developed the obsession that I had as a child again. That a good thing though right?
I shoot at the least, 25 pellets a day but more often Im shooting up to the 75 a day. I love putting the thing where I want it and the process of learning and adjusting.
Im now, like most others, wanting to upgrade to a 22 or 25 but I want to find a great 300-400$ package. Was considering ordering a gamo mach 1 .22. What I want for practical purposes is a fun extremely accurate air that can also take down small to medium game in a survival situation. I require accuracy#1, affordability #2, then take down possibility. A heavy 22 should be what I need or should I go 25 cal?
Amazon prime is having a sale rn and I am looking to order today to save some money. Any opinions on the matter ...plz lmk
Michael... I have several Gamo break barrels... and one is that 22 Magnum.... it's velocity is too high for good consistent accuracy and smaller groups. I've used the heavies JSB pellets possible... along with Motorcycle chain wax as a lubricant ... in an effort to slow it down to 800 to 950 fps... anything faster causes the pellet to whirl in the air. If it came in 25 cal. it would be easier to find heavier pellets. Consider the Hatsan break barrel in 25 or even 30 cal. Also consider the Umarex Gauntlet Gen 1 or Avenger Gen 1 for that $300 package, plus a scuba tank off of Craigslist to store air. Dr. Russ
Thanks Dr. 😎🤙
I had some of those concerns about the Gamo after reading into it somewhat; just needed the extra advantage of wisdom 😉
@@MichaelSmith420fu Good to hear from you again... and thanks for the compliment....Dr. Russ
Have you tried any JSB redesigns? The 22 is 25.39 grains.
Al Rau ... it is good to hear from you again and thanks for sharing... Yes, they are a little more difficult to find but I have tried them and find that they are excellent... They certainly help Gamo's 22 Magnum be more accurate. Dr. Russ
Just getting back in to brake action air riffles, after 40 years, got a Gamo varmint .177 up graded the scope to a Tasko Air 3-9x40 Do not care for the trigger at all. Shooting 15 yards and with a 7.9 gran flat nose am getting 3/8" and 1/2" groups, Want to get a .22 cal. thinking of the Gamo Whisper Fusion Mach 1 Do mostly target practice and some plinking, also have a rat problem so want to try getting a scope I can mount a light on for night shooting with out going over board with the price. I find that with that trigger I have to put a bit of pressure on the shoulder, but just rest on the front hand . This has to be the worst trigger I have ever shot, I mostly shoot .22 lr for target and use the Savage like there accutrigger. But with the cost of ammo here in Canada is getting a bit much and hard to get what I like. ( CCI standard velocity ) So spending a lot more time with the pellet rifle. Thanks for the great video, you are more than welcome to go over thirty minutes, no problem with that for me.
Hilton ... it is good to hear from you and thanks for sharing. Yes, the Gamos have a bad trigger pull. I find that making a short, crisp, snap of their triggers helps me more, even after adjusting what little they allow to be adjusted.. Sounds like you are holding it correctly in what is called the artillery position. I try to get most shooters into the largest caliber possible... because larger and more heavier pellets are more accurate and because there seems to be a trend among shooters to go larger with their next rifle... however, your 177 is sufficient for rats and target practice out to about 20 yards... maybe 30. Stay in touch. Living in the Detroit area, we are the only ones who have to travel south to get into Canada... within about 40 minutes for us... or 5 hours going north... Dr. Russ
Sir , with all respect some of your mentioned information is wrong.
Gamo swarm whisper and maxxim both have a 14.5 inch barrel, the rest is just baffling.
In modern spring piston/gas ram air rifle manufacturing , the optimal barrel length is 10.5 to 14.5 inch ( optimal power and accuracy).
As a matter of fact , Air Arms TX200 utilizes a 9 inch barrel length only.
On the contrary in pcp rifles , longer barrels are preferred to optimize power ( muzzle velocity).
Thank You for the video.
Paul Karkorian ... it is good to hear from you ... and I am glad to see that you aren't afraid to stand up when you hear something wrong. I have had to admit to some errors before in our videos... its hard to stay on what you want to say when cameras are rolling. However, Pyramid Air advertises that the Gamo Swarm rifles have barrels reflecting 19 and 20 inch lengths as I reported in my review. Just go to Pyramid Air and check each of the Swarm air rifles on the specification page. Now, it is possible that Gamo has misrepresented their barrel lengths to the public and to large distributors like Pyramid.... it is possible ... since I know that they have misrepresented their velocities. If you check my video, I have said "that if you remove the outer barrel, the actual barrel might be shorter ... once you take away the air stripper at the end... and that I don't like that." I don't like misrepresentations on barrel length. I have removed the outer barrel on my 4 gen 2 Swarm Rifles and I find the actual barrels are pretty close to their advertised lengths. I have had springers and gen 1 piston break barrels that have 10 and 14 inch barrels.... but those air guns are not what I was reporting about in this video. Those guns might look cool ... and feel cool .. but they are not more accurate out past 65 yards. Please keep in mind that the engineers found in an air gun manufacturer, total a fraction of the engineers found in our military and private powder sector. Their departments have engineers that number in the hundreds and have been doing their work in departments that have been around for more than a hundred years. Military engineers aren't trying to sell a short barrel gun ... they are trying to design a gun that will win the next war with fewer causalities. Pistols with their short barrels are not even close to a long barrel sniper rifle. I also said " that some air guns have barrels out to 30 plus inches and they are more accurate"... and they are. Longer barrels with the proper twist rate in those barrels allow that bullet, pellet or slug to be spinning like a football when it leaves the barrel and heads down range... and the more spin... the more accurate. Ask a football quarterback that question. I've watched many air gun manufacturers continue to lengthen their barrels as time goes on. The easiest is Hatsan ... (but they are all doing it) whose rifles use to be 17 inches in barrel lengths a dozen years ago ... change to 20 inches about 6 years ago... and now are 23 inches... as the public gets smarter and smarter and videos measure accuracy between brands. The term "optimal barrel length" is a marketing slogan. Their 10 inch barrel has more optimal qualities than the 9 inch barrel etc. ... but not more than an 11 inch barrel. You added the word Optimal power and "ACCURACY" ... however, the manufacturers have not said that ... at least I havent found them saying that. Your belief that longer barrels in PCP's is to optimize power and muzzle velocity. Basically, longer barrels add to more twist opportunity ... more spin ... and maybe more accuracy if the velocity remains in the "Sweet Spot" . My experience tells me that the sweet spot is found in 750 out to about 975 fps ... for the pellet to remain stable in the air ... and maybe a little more if the air gun is shooting slugs and the barrel is not choked. Even Bull Pup designs which appear to have shorter barrels have actually moved the breech back into the stock near the shoulder, in order to keep those barrel lengths as long as possible. Hopefully, this explanation helps you see the importance of barrel lengths... and if you pull out a measuring tape (or check with the specifications of a large distributor) ... you might find out that my report was accurate. Dr. Russ
Paul ...this may help you .... moderated barrels which many of the Gamo Swarm have ... cover the actual smaller barrel ... but that actual smaller barrel runs clear out ... almost to the end of the covering moderated barrel. An air stripper is at the very end of the actual barrel and sends some air and noise back down the moderated barrel. Most have spacers inside the moderated barrel to slow that sound and air down. The moderated barrel is one tool to silence an air rifle ... but is not to be confused with a suppressor ... which looks more like a silencer. The actual air gun barrel does not run up thru a suppressor or silencer. The center of these is just a hole that runs thru the silencer for the pellet or slug to continue its journey ... often with chambers and dampening materials to capture sound. I have often said that air gun sound includes a Ping, Pop, Zing and Stop. The Pop is the loud sound or "crack" that ammo makes when it leaves the barrel. Some Gamo owners believe that the moderated barrel is a suppressor ... and that is not true. They are two different tools to tackle the same job. Actual barrels run thru the length of a moderated barrel on the outside ... and not thru the suppressor. Gamo Swarm Magnums have only a 2 chamber Suppressor and not a moderated barrel.... which is why the magnum is still rated as a 3 or moderate bang along with most of the Swarm family which only have moderated barrels, introduced by the gen 1 Maxxim. The only exception ... and I don't have one or taken one apart is the Fusion.... which appears to have both .... and is rated as a 2 or lower bang..... I suspect its suppressor, like the Magnum also has only 2 empty chambers. One day, you might want to take apart a real suppressor from Donnyfl or one of the other suppressor firms. Their suppressors cost more than a Gamo Swarm Air Rifle. There is a lot to learn in this air gun industry ... and that is what my videos are trying to share. Dr. Russ
Hi Dr. Russ I love your videos keep it up thanks. I currently have a 1st-gen Gamo Maxxin .117 and have been experimenting with heavy pellets H/N Rabbit Magum II just so I can increase the knock down power at 35 - 50 yards (not much luck). But, I've been thinking about upgrading to a entry level pcp and have been looking at the Gamo Arrow and the Aspen Seneca. Have you tried either of these two weapons??
No I havent ... but I have tried the Avenger which I believe is made in the Aspen Seneca factory ... plus the Gauntlets ... all of which have a regulator ... which maybe the feature you are looking for. Be sure to review my video on "Deal Breakers" before you buy your next air gun.. Dr. Russ
My Swarm magnum gen 3 will be here at my house tomorrow. Also have the gen 2 Maxxim. May try them all. The maxxim is getting about a 1 inch group at 31 yards. Will do better im sure with better ammo and scope.
Garrett Finney ... it is good to hear from you ... and I am sure you are right. Please keep us in your air gun experiences loop ... helping us help everyone to stay air gun safe ... sharp ... and silent. Dr. Russ
What big scope is that? Thinking about getting into air rifle shooting.
What about Dieseling a pellet. This is when you put a Q-tip soaked in light weight oil and dab the back of the pellet. I understand it will make the pellet shoot further?
Dieseling increases velocity ... but loses accuracy as they spin out of control at about 30 yards. Dr. Russ
Hey Dr. Russ!!!
Great to see you again, and thanks for the excellent video.
Just wondering, which air rifle caliber do you use the most, enjoy the most, and find most utilitarian?
I've been using a .177 and .22 for most of my small game and pesting but am planning to move on to bigger game such as possums, raccoons, and possibly fox. Supposedly a .22 should be sufficient. I have my doubts. .25 and .30 don't seem to be that much more powerful. Earlier this year you recommended a .357 Benjamin Bulldog for deer. Do you prefer that to the .22 Swarm Magnum for the raccoon, possum, and fox, or is that overkill?
Thanks again.
Stay Safe, Be Well, God Bless.
Ken Fan ... it is good to hear from you again.... My favorite round ... which is based upon different choices that are available within that caliber ... as well as the dynamics of my back yard and the destructive critters that live there... is the 25 caliber... and secondly the 357 caliber..... I believe the added weights for the 25 caliber over the 22 caliber provide greater foot pounds of energy ... and they harvest more critters because of that.... while air gunners have killed deer ... even with a 177 (I believe by hitting the eye for a brain shot) ... and many have killed deer with the 22 ... they don't share the number of wounded animals. I am sure a 25 would wound some too that didn't get a head shot.... so I don't hunt deer with a 25 ... just critters. The 357 is totally deadly on critters and deer ...but those pellets and slugs are more money too ... and I shoot a great deal ... so cost adds up... and the magazines that hold 25 caliber ammo hold more than the magazines fore 357... and lastly, you need a better back stop for the 357 due to its weight and energy when it hits its targets. Bottom line, consider both calibers in your future ...
Ive had mine for about a year now and i am not dissapointed. Ive watched other videos on choosing pellets and i actually ended up ordering the DIABLO off of amazon sense that seemed to have the best reveiws. Im still struggling with accuracy though. I do alot of squirrel hunting and i have taken down many squirrels with my gamo swarm whisper but here lately it seems i have not had the same accuracy as i have had in the past. Could be due to the way i shoot while sighting the gun in vs leaning up against a tree in the woods to shoot at a squirrel. Any reccomendations on improving accuracy while siting it in to fit my style of hunting in the woods?
Randy Lucas ... it is good to hear from you ... I have three areas that might help you ... First, click onto the small circular photo of me to access our channel ... where you will find two videos that deal with accuracy.... watch both as I am sure there is something there that will help you. Secondly, pellets can change over the years as new equipment replaces old... and in this case, it is all about the exact diameter of the pellet and the exact diameter of your barrel as it gets leaded in ... or as I call it ... smoothed out. This will require you to test the accuracy of some different pellets ... try the heaviest JSB pellets that you can get ... Heavies ... Monsters ... etc. Call one of the big mail order firms like Pyramid Air ... Arizona Air ... Utah Air etc. Lastly, your scope may need adjusting again. They get out of whack if dropped, bumped etc. I have never liked the scopes that come with Gamo's. Watch one of my newer videos and you will see a CV Life Scope that I currently use due to its low price, plus a 15% discount. Be sure it is a shorter scope and not a long one for a break barrel. Your Whisper is a great air rifle ... but these scopes are even better ... and can be removed and put on replacement air guns later ...Keep us in your air gun lnfo loop and let us know if any of these 3 ideas help.... Dr. Russ
Hey doc, what do you think about pcp pistols? More importantly do you know anything about the hw44 or the AP16
Van Lyfe ... it is good to hear from you .... and unfortunately, I havent owned or shot those two pistols yet ... so I cant offer any good advice... I can suggest that you try to win one of the large bore air guns that we are having a drawing on ... which include the AEA Terminator Semi Auto in 30 caliber and the AEA Defender Pistol in 357 magnum caliber.... check out our channel about 2 months ago and review proceedure to enter on a video titled "2 Gifts" ... Dr. Russ
I have both the air venture rifles & an fix & their both as accurate for me as my fx
It is good to hear from you Rerun-Hunter ... and you are correct. Regulators in all of them make them very... very accurate. The FX and higher end air guns are often lighter and better machined ... but in the end ... they are very accurate. FX maybe a little more accurate due to its barrels and rifling.... because they seem to be winning all of the competitive shooting events. Dr Russ
I’m having a love hate relationship with my .22 cal gamo swarm whisper I’m shooting jsb heavy’s & tried the jumbo monster’s to slow it down but did not work. I believe it’s the way I’m holding it.
Good Times... using the artillery hold position will help ... and hold it lightly... dont try to hold it tight and control the gun ... let it do its thing. Stay in touch and let us know how you do... Dr. Russ
Happy 😊 days.
Thank you John.... Dr. Russ
Is the crosman the same gun as the Benjamin trail NP
Yes ... Dr. Russ
Thank you doctor..i liked your videos..
Christian Liao ... it is good to hear from you ... and thanks for the compliment ... We are providing 3 new videos over the next week ... while preparing for an Iguana Hunt in Fort Lauderdale and a Hog hunt in Lake Okeechobee.... where I believe 5 more videos will be produced.... when all of my air gun knowledge will be used up ... I cant tell you how often I say that to myself ... and then I remember some past experience ... and keep going. Dr. Russ
You mention briefly in this video that you prefer the .25 cal for backyard critters over the .22 cal. I am looking into purchasing a break-barrel rifle and saw that the “Gamo Swarm Fusion 10X, Gen 3i” advertises pushing a .22 cal pellet at 975 fps, which is within (although at the top) of your recommended velocity to maintain accuracy. Do you think using a .22 cal “hunting” pellet at this velocity would handle something like a raccoon or a rabbit in the garden humanely? While I prefer the features listed on this .22 break-barrel over the .25 break-barrel I was looking at (Hatsan Mod 125 Sniper Vortex QE), I don’t want to buy it if it can’t make a humane kill. Thank you.
xdmc005 ... it is good to hear from you and glad to hear that you see the larger picture ... wanting humane kills versus kills. While shooting garden critters will be your focus ... you will probably be target practicing at least as much as hunting. If so, the depth of your yard will likely take your priority. 22 caliber break barrels humanly kill destructive critters out to about 45 yards ... while 25 caliber break barrels will fit that need out to about 65 yards ... and Hatsan has a 30 caliber break barrel that will kill medium size game ... fox, coyote, woodchucks out to about 85 yards. Ammo is more expensive as you increase calibers.... and practice is important in achieving these distances ... please keep us in your loop of air gun experiences... Dr. Russ
Thank you, once again! I really appreciate your taking the time to provide such detailed and thoughtful answers to my questions! I have asked a lot of you through your video comments these last few days and you’ve been responsive beyond expectation! I will likely get the break-barrel in .25, just to be safe. Hopefully one of these companies will release a .25 or .30 in the swarm/speedfire/magfire platform in the near future. I have 1 PCP gun (.357 Benjamin Bulldog), but I like the idea of having a break barrel as a “survival gun”, as you say. The repeater-style platform the .177 and .22 would be much appreciate in the larger caliber one day. We shall see! Thanks again. - Dan
@@xdmc005 It is good to hear from you again... that Bulldog will kill most anything ...so keep that handy. Keep us in your air gun info loop ... Dr. Russ
Dr Russ, what ammo do you recommend for iguana hunting in South Florida?
Ivarivars .... it is good to hear from you ... while 22 cal works and most guides can provide you with break-barrel air rifles in 22 caliber... I have been using 25 caliber. Iguanas are hard to harvest unless shot in the head (Ours during the past two years have gone to a soup kitchen). I would like to upgrade to 30 caliber ... and may next year... but I am concerned about the homes nears these Iguana canals... I will be checking next Iguana hunt with the guide before making this decision... You should probably do the same. Dr. Russ
@Russ Jones thank you!!!
hello dr russ i have the gamo swarm magnum 10x gen2 in .177 the trigger pull on my rifle is less than 2 ilbs maybe its different for the .22 though im not sure but i thought i would let you know the newer triggers work at least on the .177 variants
Froggy... thanks for the info... the trigger can be adjusted on Gamo's ... particularly when the stock is off. It is good to hear from you ... Dr. Russ
I just bought a gen 1 swarm whisper and I haven’t even opened the box so I could return it to Amazon, do you think it’s worth upgrading to gen 2 and/or magnum for the shorter scope mount so the scope is closer to the barrel?
Wolf ... the price you paid for your air gun and the price for an upgrade to gen2 or gen 3 ... would decide that answer... but generally speaking, I would not. Dr. Russ
What weight pellot do you use for the Crosman which is what I own titan gp 22.
Have an aversion to Gamo due to the confusion in their naming conventions for their products. Wish they would introduce some common sense, so that customers could easily understand the differences in the models they produce. Do appreciate your advocacy for heavy pellets to tame the pellet velocities to reasonable subsonic levels.
Good to hear from you David B .... and I agree ... in fact Gamo uses the name "Whisper" on some plain break barrels without the 10X feature. I am guessing that they wanted the public to know how quiet they were ... but that became an official name within the Swarm group. Be sure to watch a video that we released several weeks ago with the title ..."AEA Terminator & Defender Gifts"... in 30 and 357 caliber ... in a drawing on July 31. Dr. Russ
Your right , the Mach1 piston is a 33mm piston but for some reason the Bone Collector G2 , is slightly less power than the Magnum . 22ftlb vs 26ftlb in the Magnum. However the BCG2 rifle is consistently more accurate even to 50 yards its capable of easy 1 inch groups where the Magnum is around 1.5 Inch groups.
Amen ... Albert A. thanks for the confirmation. Please keep us in your loop of air gun info... Dr. Russ
Hey Dr. Russ. Had a few questions thgt maybe you could chime in on. I have the gamo fusion gen 2 10x .22cal; i put a vortex crossfire II scope on it. Have you heard of anyone having horrible issues sighting these in past 30yards/100feet? i was trying to sight it in at 50yards; and more and no such luck; no matter how much i messed with it i cld not get it on target. I have thgt about contacting gamo and using the warranty to see if that resolves it. any thoughts? i use 17.6gr+ pellets only. thanks! your videos are super informative & enjoyable to watch.
Kitchi ... my experience is that break barrel rifles are only accurate out to about 30 yards ... the 22 cal is a little better at 35 ... but you may have to upgrade to a pcp air gun to be accurate beyond that ... be sure you review my video on deal breakers ... before you buy... Dr. Russ
@@russjones6497 Thanks so much Dr. Russ. All of your videos are super informative & helpful. I will check that video out on deal breakers :). I am looking at the benjamin marauder .25 pcp. Trying to stretch good accuracy out to 100 yards. Thanks for making videos for all of us.
@@kitchimanitoo4324 keep us in your air gun loop of experiences Kitchi ... Dr. Russ
@@russjones6497 Ended up purchasing a benjamin marauder .25cal wood stock; i rly like the wood stock finish :). absolute joy to shoot. sighted it in at 30 yards easily; at 50yards am hitting quarter size hole placement. at 100yards can consistently hit small apples. great gun & lots of fun. super quiet.
He sounds just like the late Johny Carson from the tonight show!
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It is good to hear from you James ... I wish I made his money ... Dr. Russ
With all your investments in guns and gear, did you ever think about getting some molds and making your own pellets?
Adam ... it is good to hear from you ,... and yes ... we have been working with a friend who has been making his own lead pellets and slugs ... since I have little time for that project ... ( I know it well since I was casting and loading my own ammo in competition years ago ... but unfortunately, my friend has come down with cancer of the tongue ... and wont be able to continue .... I currently have another viewer working with his 3D machines in designing and making air gun racks that keep the barrels down versus up ... We just finished 3 years in this air gun video area ... and plan to do whatever we can to help air gunners ... Dr. Russ
@@russjones6497 thank you for your reply Dr. Russ. It's good to hear from you. Sad to hear about your friend. I lost a good friend to cancer last year. Terrible disease. And the Barrel down gun racks are a great idea. I myself never thought about the stuff that can get down into the piston and cylinder when the gun is stored with the barrel pointed up. Just not something that crosses your mind unless you are really invested into finding out the absolutely best and most efficient way to care for your rifle to get the longest life and accuracy out of it. I'd also like to make my own pellets some day. I believe you could really tune a pellet or slug that a specific rifle likes to shoot accurately. I appreciate your knowledge and videos Dr. Russ. Keep up the good work.
Dr Ross ,I just discovered your channel , its highly instuctive and amusing, now concerning the fps specs printed on the boxes I believe that the only manufacturer which states the real cipher is Hatsan because they test their guns with lead pellets instead of alloy ones, I must say that I do not have any connection with manufacturers, its only what I have read, carry on with the good job, regards from Chile
George Gandara ... it is good to hear from you.... and you are correct ... Hatsan is the only air gun mfg that provides accurate velocity using lead pellets...at least in the guns from $1000 U.S. dollars and down. I have found accurate info on the more expensive guns like FX, Hueben, and others. Dr. Russ
Thankk you for answering, I have already subscribed !!@@drsrussandpaula
What kind of Scope is good for gamo wisper .22 cal?😊
Sooo should i get the gamo swarm x 10 whisper???
What do you suggest?
The reason for the 20" barrel on the m16 wasnt adequate rifling for proper spin, its adequate barrel length to get full powder burn so that the energy of the expanding gasses are transferred as fully into the projectile as possible.
The reason for fluting a barrel on hunting rifles isnt to dissipate heat, as you're not going to be firing a bolt action hunting rifle rapidly enough to heat the barrel. The reason for fluting is to cut weight on a barrel while maintaining the advantages that a thicker bull barrel provides.
ethan kolodny .... thanks for sharing with us... Please stay in touch ... sharing any air gun experiences with us that you have... Dr. Russ
Thanks
It is good to hear from you Bayou flats ... and thanks for the thanks.... be sure you know about out drawing for two large bore air guns... click on the small circular photo of me and look for a video two or three ago ... that is titled "Gifts" ... Dr. Russ
Sir i like u haha u make since my fav thing u said was id buy the one cheaper even without waldells name on it yhat was great haha im now following ur broski
Devin Lindsey ... it is good to hear from you ... fortunately I am not on anyone's payroll ... so I hope that means that I give as accurate answer as I can when sharing what I know with our viewers. Please keep us in your air gun info and experiences loop. Dr. Russ
If your interested in a Bone collect with a wood stock You should go to GAMO USA and get a Hunter Extreme Pro. They only have what is in stock but the are one of the nicest Gamo's I've ever seen and on sale for 220.00. This gun is every been a 400.00+ airgun and rivals my German made guns in looks and quality. Been temped to buy a second at that price. The stock is awesome high grade Beech and it feels amazing in my hands. There's not a Weihrauch spring gun I would trade for it, Of course I already have one of the best ones, the HW97K in blue Lament. Little trigger screw mod and it's trigger is right there with the HW97K. Plus I got a 10% off coupon that popped up. Gamo should keep making these guns. No swarm system, but steel breech block and barrel like the old Hunter models.
Charles Outdoor ... thanks for sharing .... I purchased the Bone Collector and agree that the quality looks very nice. I will be doing a review on it in September. Dr. Russ
came out in 2020 and was around about 4 years? just kidding, great video, very fun and informative. can't you make your own pellets for the big bore? wouldn't be hard once the molds are made.
Canke Co.... it is good to hear from you .... and thanks for the idea. In fact, we are working on bringing out our own slugs that are very unique ... called "Destructive Critter Control" within a month. I believe I have found a source for scopes for our viewers ... that have a red dot attached as well as a laser ... 4x16 variable with 50mm lens ... and an aol front lens.... mil dot ... all for $85 each ... so ... yes I am calling my contacts to help our viewers get some great accessories for low prices. Please write again ... sharing any air gun experience you have had... Dr. Russ
Gamo Red and Green spacer on butt pads represents caliber. 177cal. Red and 22cal Green
Thanks Keith.... Dr. Russ
Hi Doc . I have that air rifle
Good to hear from you Pa Airmen ... glad to hear it ... you've got a good one... Dr. Russ
Will the Gamo take care of groundhogs
My Gamo Extreme .177 caliber took one out with no problem . He was the size ( 19 inches long ) of a fat house cat , head shot lights out .
Alan Allen ... it is good to hear from you. The answer to your question is a bit complicated ... I prefer to shoot ground hogs with 25 and 357 calibers. The distance is also important. I believe a 22 caliber will do it at 35 yards and 117 will do it about 10 yards. Placement also has to be a part of the answer .... you need to be very accurate on these tough hide rodents as they are tough to kill and tough to confirm a kill... as they often crawl back into their holes ... or are dragged by other ground hogs. Head shots are important as body shots will rarely kill a ground hog. Lastly, slugs are better than pellets. Consider checking one of our recent videos titled "AEA Terminator and Defender Gifts" to learn how you can be in our current drawing for a Semi Auto 30 cal Terminator and a 357 Defender pistol. Also consider watching another video of ours about Hatsan 44 Long where I take out a Wood Chuck at 92 yards... Dr. Russ
@@drsrussandpaula Thanks for your reply. Have a great day
Do you have the magnum gen3i review video out yet?
No ... I dont own the gen3i air guns yet ... but I will ... Dr. Russ
JVBL1 ... I will be launching a video on the Gamo Bone Collector in 22 caliber in 2 weeks ... I will provide info on what other Gamo Swarm 3i owners have shared with me along with some of my own research. So far, it appears that owners of gen 1 ... and gen 2 are enjoying their Gamo air guns. I believe Gamo is making the most of their 10X magazine with their Swarm air rifles ... and they are increasing their prices considerably over each generation.... perhaps more than the next generation is worth. Meantime, Crosman has come out with their Mag-Fire break barrel with a pellet magazine ... as has Hatsan. These are the 3 largest air gun manufacturers in the world. Be sure you check and compare the specifications of all 3 before you buy ... and be sure you review one of my videos that identifies "Deal Breakers" in buying your next air gun. Sometimes air gun enthusiasts buy on impulse versus research. Dr. Russ
JVBL1 ... I think you will find the review video you are looking for ... among my last 3 videos ... which provides a comparison between Gamo Swarm's 3 generations. Dr. Russ
@@russjones6497 Thanks. I'll look into it.
I KNEW my Swarm Whisper .22 was coming with a junk scope, but I thought I'd be able to use it for a while until I could afford a new one. Wrong.
It won't even focus better than a coat of Vaseline. A silly joke, at best.
The rifle, my first breakbarrel, I love dearly! Already have a PCP, and this is comparable!
Good to hear that you are embracing this great industry... and thanks for sharing ... Dr., Russ
Theoben originally came out with air pistons in the late 80s, they were incredibly expensive but great guns. However, just like today's air pistons they don't seem to have the longevity of a good mechanical spring.
Michael ... thanks for writing and thanks for sharing... Dr. Russ
Dr Russ even brake barrel it hard to see the pellet in flite specially 1200 fps black out farry 2 you have copper head pellet to see with nake eye yes that one other of my air gun be for hit bulldog 357 i like them both the black out farry 2 3x 39 center point scope other people hate them but it work for well enough to hit target but on bulldog 357 its swiss army scope 4 x 40 good glass it rate for 600 yard will i shoot up 600 sadly not make 300 yard only with lot practices thumb up
Blackswordshinobi ... thanks for sharing... Dr. Russ
Dr Russ is the best in the history knowledge in this business!
Juls Rique ... it is good to hear from you and thanks for the compliment ... Dr. Russ