ThinkPad Z13 Review - The Best AMD Business Laptop!
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
- Review of the Lenovo ThinkPad Z13. This laptop has one of the best touchpads I've ever used on a Windows Laptop. It comes with AMD's Ryzen 7 6850U Pro CPU and a gorgeous design.
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This the prettiest AMD laptop I've reviewed and great for an executive! Also, if you missed it I reviewed the HP Omen 16 which you can find here - ruclips.net/video/2C1jCqQJ0pI/видео.html
0:33 2.78 lbs is 1.26 kg, not 1.6 kg! You might wanna add an annotation.
What do you think of HPs ZBook FireFly G9 14 with i7.1260p is it already available at your place.
not made of real vegans? pass
LOL
This is the best cmt!
Yeah that's why I'm not buying it
But cows are vegan
@@MoChuang343 not cow leather either.
Thank you for talking about the touchpad! None of the other reviews talk about how it feels to use! And I’ve been waiting for so long to see haptic touch pads like this make it to windows laptops
My pleasure! It's really good!
Lenovo is underrated in public. I bought my first Lenovo laptop. Yoga 7i 12th intel i5. I’m very happy with it. I’ve been with HP, Dell, Samsung, LG, MacBook Air for many years. This year I wanted to try other brand! :)
I have the Z13. One problem with the touchpad is "tap". I turned it off. Tap is not adjustable as to force. Any momentary contact with touchpad acts like a left click. I needed to turn tap off. I prefer what is called "press", which is adjustable as to force. Tap was driving me crazy! Took me awhile to figure out to disable this "feature".
These things are WAY too expensive, they're even more expensive than the new M2 Air with upgraded RAM & storage. The base Z13 with 16Gb RAM, meagre 256Gb SSD and 6650U is 2150€. What is Lenovo smocking, instant DOA.
DOA for us consumers but not for corporate who order these things for the executive team. I talk about this in the conclusion
@@MatthewMoniz Honestly with just 2 USB-C ports I'm not so sure how hot corporate/ c-suite is going to be for this machine, HDMI port is basically a must-have even Apple rolled that one back into the MacBooks..
@@MatthewMoniz Businesses should also usually get discounts when they order these at volume too right?
AMD powered X13 gen 3 version is better choice as Intel powered x1 g10 is gas guzzler.
Plus x13 has common2280 ssd slot, 180⁰ hinge and physical webcam shutter.
@Goat And you would be surprised how many of them are already having connection issues, due to people letting cables dangling which bends the port.
I have one and LOVE it. I have a loaded model because Lenovo had one of their Great deals. It is a best quality AMD non gaming laptop that I have been wanting. Lots of screen resolution for coding and more than enough RAM for docker and more. A great keyboard! It looks great. The only negative is the wait for when it comes off of hibernation.
I'm thinking of buying an m1 air for my work but I found out that some softwares I need are not compatible so I'm checking out Thinkpad options again and I think the most reasonable one to get is the t14s 2022
I'm so glad SOMEONE is covering this line of laptops. Thank you Matt! I've been refreshing my searches on the z13 and z16 since I found out about them months ago but no one seemed to cover it even after the official release. I hope z16 review is coming as well! Now someone please make a gaming laptop with the same design language.
My pleasure = ) Ill see what I can do about the Z16!
Isn't Asus already done it? I forgot the model but it is a gaming laptop (also has copper accents at the edges of the laptop) but I don't know about the trackpad though... also it is quite slim like a chocolate bar 😂
@@angelo_alexpaguntalan411 which one is that? I would like more info plz if they have something with a good build quality. Is it the flow x16?
I own a Z16 with the 4K OLED. If you have any specific questions, maybe i can answer.
@@hausertreyen is it a 120hz screen?
Something to keep in mind about price- Lenovo is ALWAYS running sales on their devices, at least in the US. I just snagged the OLED/16GB/6850u version of this device in late July for $1400; thats $700 cheaper than spec here that has an inferior screen. Just be patient and look for those stacking sales codes at Lenovo!
You shouldn't be paying over a thousand for any 8650u poeered machine in 2022, respectfully
@@theinktician respectfully elaborate?
@@theinktician yeah can you explain why?
@@ij6708 my mistake I think there was a mis-typing; I switched the 6 and 8. My device has has amd 6850u like the one you are talking about! I edited my original comment so there is no more confusion
@@twincitiesberrycompany8723 I was half doubting it was a typo. OEMs do occasionally put older chips into some machines but those are usually in the budget range and never from that far back. No harm done
Matthew pronouncing Z as 'zed' is why I've subscribed to this channel.
It's a gorgeous laptop but I ultimately would still end up getting a T14s if I wanted AMD because I can't do without the TrackPoint. I wouldn't mind recommending it to a lot of people I know, though.
But the TrackPoint isn't missing.
@@punksjutgbd But the buttons for it are. I accidentally a word.
@@WaffleusRex I have the Z16 and the buttons still work and are functional.
@@punksjutgbd I'd have to try it myself but I'm a little wary, given my experience with the xx40 series.
I always look forward to you commenting about bad sticker placement lol
Why the hell are Lenovo foolishly aping XPS's annoying problems. cant get over the lack of usb-a/hdmi ports on a thinkpad. It would have been perfect. for gods sake this even does gaming well enough on such a light package. I didnt expect to see 6850U beating the much higher TDP 1260P in cpu applications. Intel CPUs are just hopeless in ultraportables.
one thing to note Asus managed to put a 67wh in the lighter 1kg Zenbook S. that would have giving this %30 better battery.
yep the included battery is small
It is an ultrabook. The market is moving to USBc and Thunderbolt for them and more IO on prosumer devices. This seems like a sensible move as most of us using an ultrabook do not need many ports. I use just one of my two USBc ports.
thinkpads should never compromise on utility. the carbon x1 has all the ports and its thinner with bigger battery. nut with useless intel cpu
Considering the Z16 myself now after hearing about Dell's continued qc issues with the latest XPS (9530). 13" has always been too small for me. In any case, I'm really routing for Lenovo! Thanks for the review!
would be interesting to compare the real world battery life of Z13 IPS to OLED, as lenovo's spec sheet says oled version has 55% worse battery life
Finally, a good review of this laptop. I was thinking about getting this laptop until I saw the price. I'm even more interested in the Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 ProX with Ryzen 6000; will you be doing a review of it soon?
He has done the review!
@@adetokunboawonusi4575 oh, okay!
Just go to Costco and buy it already.. 32GB ram!
There is an error in the weight conversion. It should be 2.78 lbs / 1.26 kg
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Lol I almost spit my drink into my screen when you called the sticker technique the swimming dolphin. That was freaking hilarious.
They're getting to creative in the sticker industry. Tough to keep up
Great review. Would you recommend this over the slim 7 pro x? I am considering both and I can’t decide.
can't believe they're trying to get rid of the trackpoint buttons again! T440s fiasco all over again.
It is "TrackPoint", not "Nipple". Know the product you review, please.. how many years have been since you're reviewing ThinkPads?
Thanks for the review. If you have to pick this or the Dell XPS 13 Plus, which would you buy and why?
I have a Z13 on the way. I only use the trackpoint on thinkpads and I'll be targeting a review specifically talking about those virtual trackPoint buttons as well as the touch screen with pen support. I was about to buy an AMD X13 before I found a great deal on one of these. TBH, the physical flat trackpoint buttons on new thinkpads suck anyway, is it possible these will be better? I doubt it but here's hoping..
Some hotakes and thoughts:
'Zed', I will never understand this. It takes the fun out of the coolest letter of the alphabet, Zee!
The gold/bronze trim absolutely kills the look for me. There should be an option for a stealthy gunmetal trim.
Vegan leather does not wear like actual leather - there will be no leather-like patina on this after heavy use.
The trackpoint buttons, while flush, should still have red trim to tie in with the red trackpoint (because it's a ThinkPad).
First of all, god I love those looks! I just wish it wasn't black, but something more bright. Sick of black or other VERY dark colors in my electronics.
Having two ports on a business laptop is just sickening. Unforgivable. Unless I get the laptop for free. Just..unbelievable.
The rest is fine I guess, at least the SSD is removable as it should.
The ports limit just killed it for me. In a negative way.
Thanks for the review!
Thanks for watching and you’re welcome. But I agree more ports would be nice
3:02 is Numpad really worth mentioning? :3
Honestly a Yoga 7 14ARB7 with 6800u and 16gb ram such as the 1800p oled 90hz costs less and still delivers premium build quality.
Just curious, on a scale of 10, how much would you rank the experience with this touchpad compared to that of X1 carbon?
Better than carbon 9.5 out of 10
Why is the touchpad off-center on a 13 inch laptop?
If your primary working software and applications aren't depending on Windows, just go and buy a M1/ M2 Mac, u can never go wrong with it.
I intend to buy this model. However, the RAM is soldered. Could you show her location in another video? In the future I intend to change it, and it is a complicated process. But it would be interesting to know the RAM location for this procedure.
"The Swimming Dolphin technique" makes me want to get this laptop for no reason...
The sticker guy is a brilliant human being
I love the sticker placement. It is just part of their marketing strategy.
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We need practicality ! For 1 mm thickness you can add a normal USB port 2.0 or SD Card Reader. For another 2 mm, maybe I can have a external removable battery. By the way, my old T470s has 36GB RAM. This laptop can be connected to external video card ?
Fantastic video! Thank you.
Can you also do the Lenovo X1 Extreme Gen 5? That would be amazing! I need a new laptop.
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Stickers are diagonal because when you order the Z16 with the Radeon card, the Radeon sticker goes in the bottom right.
thank you!! was waiting for a good review of this laptop❤️
Funny how people say the M2 MacBook Air is expensive. These newer windows laptops are getting even more expensive. Apple for best value! 😂
No one buying business laptops for their firm pays anywhere close to full price. The advertised price of these Thinkpads almost certainly does not reflect purchasing reality, or else businesses would go to Dell, HP, or another competitor.
ooo i just love the design♥ i Will buy this one if i could afford! 😍
In my experience vegan leather doesn't wear in, it wears out. It'll start to delaminate and peel off, especially with direct friction which it might get if constantly transported in a bag.
Also I know the red nipple is there signature, but I think it would be cooler if they colour matched it to the laptop. Make it gold or something.
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The SSD is kind of a disappointment. I'm pretty sure they could've fit a 2280 inside of that thing. Nevertheless, it looks very nice overall.
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Loved that MERICA total Matthew classic right there😂😂😂
Apple: We have a laptop with a notch
Lenovo: But do you have a reverse notch
Apple: ??!
I'm interessted in the OLED Display Option Lenovo has to offer.
Any Testing about this?
hey, I cannot seems to decide which laptop to buy. My requirement is, good gaming performance (doesn't have to be in high setting), good battery life in casual use like 10hrs, should not be bulky ( travel friendly for like college and other places) Can you please make a video of this laptop? please
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Regarding the price, Lenovo runs promotions and coupon codes almost all the times. For example, the model you reviewed, can be picked up below $1400. The fully configured model with 6850U, 32GB Ram, 1TB Gen4 SSD and 2.8K OLED display, can be picked up around $1600 with the coupons available. Not good idea to cost it costly based on MSRP because Lenovo always sets eye watering MSRP and then offers huge discounts.
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Thanks for the review Matthew. Straight to the point with pros and cons. Is the touch screen very glossy? Is it similar to xps screen? Or less glossy?
It's glossy but not the most glossy screen I've seen it's respectable
Hey man love your content 💕💕💕, can u review the ASUS zenbook pro 15 oled up6502 with intel a307m there is not a single video on this device on the internet, I don't know why I ,think it is the best in its category and it deserves a spotlight and it will get lots of views
my company just bought me one of these and im so excited
Curious that Just Josh's main pain point was exactly the trackpad.
Executives don't need dongles. We hate them. We need ports. That is what kills this laptop for me
Good businesses will get USB-C external devices as they will need to comply with EU directives in the next two years. Sadly, all these companies continue to make old IO, if they did USB-C projectors, printers, scanners, etc, then we would be fine. It is not Lenovo that is the problem, it is OEMs making devices with old IO.
@@andyH_England This is incorrect. The EU only mandates USB C charging and not on laptops just yet. Only for small electronic devices such as cell phones and tablets.
Also, all of the Lenovo Thinkpads models use USB C charging outside of the engineering grade P Series Mobile Workstations, which until this year drew too much power to be charged with a USB C cable. It will probably get USB C charging later on, as 240W charging becomes more and more available. Also, laptops are allowed to have non USB C ports even under the EU's potential future laptop charging mandate. This is why it's perfectly fine for a laptop to have USB A, HDMI, headphone jacks and other ports, just as long as it has at minimum one USB C port cable of charging the device.
@@sarahgarfinkle6805 Indeed, laptop OEMs can still have multi-IO ports, but with the world moving to USB-C, what is the point for the future; we need them to act smart and push for change rather than holding out for a niche techie market that get hang-ups on USB-C only devices. Getting the block to move as one, rather than Apple or another OEM having to take the lead is far better for innovation and progress. However, we see from comments here that people are not willing to change, stuck in their old ways, despite history telling us that these changes are inevitable and better we do it as one rather than some slowing down the change.
The EU has requested OEMs to use USB-C chargers on laptops and has not made a directive yet. They hope OEMs see sense and ignore the loud minority that hold back change. They only use directives when there is disagreement and reluctance. Any good OEM should be doing it sooner rather than later, as Apple,Dell and others are moving inexorably towards. I am a bit surprised that techies are not 100% behind the movement to USB-C, but then again it is alright when Apple are forced to do it, but when it effects them, a different story?
Can't wait for this to come down in price. The size is nearly perfect. The lack of ports is disappointing, especially when you consider there are smaller laptops with more ports (see GPD Win Max 2 and OneMix 4S). From a major OEM though, this is a win.
Those aren’t nearly as this as this
@@numberoneyeatfan the OneMix 4S is only 3mm thicker than the Z13 yet it has three USB-C ports, a 3.5mm jack and an SD slot, despite also only being a 10" laptop vs the much larger Z13.
always love to hear what this guy have to comment about the sticker placement!! 😂😂
The moment you showed the sides, and I saw the input/output ports, I got disappointed. That's not a business laptop in my book.
Can you please review Samsung Galaxy Book 2 pro 360 and compare it with the other's
Since Samsung is trying to push it's ecosystem and is also offering great deals it might be a reason for many Samsung users buying it
Thank you, love your to the point and crisp reviews
I NEED an hour long video of just typing
will you review the OLED model??
If it is for executives, with that price, why wouldn’t they just buy a 13" Macbook Pro for $1300-$1500?
Because windows might be a requirement.
@@disadadi8958 Rarely I think.
@@racecarjonny8460 I've never seen a mac at work. All the software we use runs on windows / linux. I see no reason to take a mac there when every other computer runs something else.
There are tons of additional costs to buying a MacBook, which is typically not worth it to a business unless there is an absolute need for one. This is what you will typically need to do when introducing a MacBook into a Windows dominated enterprise:
1. Find a docking station which will support DisplayLink for Macs, and have a backup or two on hand in the event it breaks. The docks normally used probably won't work with the 13" Macbook Pro.
2. Buy an additional MacBook for testing.
3. Spend IT resources, which equates to a ton of time and thus money, either setting up something like JAMF or Intune for MacOS to integrate with existing Active Directory SSO (hope you ONLY use Azure AD or Okta, or else this is going to be a days long project).
4. Reconfigure the VPN to work on MacOS devices.
5. Set up the SMB file share for existing Mac compatibility, if your organization uses an on premise file share.
6. Set up specific MacOS policies to prevent data exfiltration.
7. Setup a dedicated MacOS antivirus satisfying the requirements of cyber-insurance and cyber auditing firms that the corporation is contracted with.
8. Train staff on MacOS support, which can take a few days, meaning that they will not be able to work on their existing projects.
9. Confirm that all software an executive will use is compatible with MacOS.
10. Create managed IDs for employees.
11. Purchase new keyboards compatible with MacBooks because executives are used to typing on their external keyboards.
12. Ensure that any other commonly used software is put on the software share with MacOS compatibility, which takes additional time, especially if that software has special corporate configurations such as an integration with logging data, automated passwords, screen recording, etc.
Or you can spend a couple of hundred dollars more and get a business grade machine which will save the hassle of all of the above. By the way, I work at a dual Mac/ Windows company, and this is exactly what we have needed to do.
@@disadadi8958 makes sense now.
Could you please review Dell Inspiron 16 2 in 1 OLED laptop ?
2242 ssd slot instead of common 2280.
Lid doesn't open 180⁰.
No physical webcam shutter.
No HDMI for connecting to projector.
No USB A port.
What the heck, Lenovo?
Should simply use x1 carbon chassis.
Many people nowadays don't need those options. I cast my screen wirelessly, I don't usually have peripherals while at school / work... Maybe need a USB-A from time to time but it's nothing an adapter doesn't solve.
Hope that Microsoft also uses haptic trackpad on their laptop 5 with Ryzen 6000u and usb 4 for affordable price... So it can match MacBook air M1 and M2
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The best thing about haptic touchpads is that you can turn the haptics off. I'd love a solid state touchpad, but i'm happy to settle for the Z13 with the feedback turned off.
can anybody tell me what is the latest Lenovo thinkpad with amd cpus, 2 upgradeable ram slots and and upgradeable storage?
This machine is simply way overpriced. Better to get a 14" MacBook Pro M1 Pro.
I'm thinking to buy this model. However, I was using a ThinkPad Gen9 and the battery was very disappointing. I'm having doubts, because I'm using the MacBook Pro M1
This has an AMD processor which has a good battery life. I also bought a Z13 ( ubuntu preinstalled ) on black friday and it will be brought at 24'th of Dec. I also have an M1 Air but sometimes I need windows and linux. It is hard to carry my gaming laptop for this :D
the z series is actually marketed towards "young people" and more towards the consumer market outside the more traditional business oriented space that the thinkpad has historically targeted
And that's the issue. There's way better value out there and it probably won't reach the kind of people, young hipsters, who are ready to pay premium for design and brand prestige.
It's essentially a more powerful version and next gen of lenovo yoga slim 7 pro 14" amd variant, which cost no more than $1400 give or take. I paid $1100 for the iGPU only OLED version.
What material has been used besides the ForcePad? Is it plastic or all metal?
A cover: Aluminium, B cover: Plastic (non-touch) or glass (touch), C cover: Aluminum w/glass palmrest, D cover: Plastic (non-WWAN) or Aluminium (WWAN models)
No numpad = Nice! And much more useful than one with that prehistoric appendix
I love my Z13. You can use an AES protocol stylus too on it. I use the lenovo mod pen.
I really like the design of this Thinkpad. Refresh to have new design idea.
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Saw Zenbook S13 without USB 3.0. Everyone seemed to be getting rid of it.
Buy M1 Max 14 for 2000 dollars instead this Thinkpad Z13.
Can you make a review about the z16? Is it good for video editing?
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I returned my z13 which has "bottom cover tamper detection error". Poor quality
"it's not made of actual vegan". Well... I hope so...
Oh boy the sticker guy was having a field day with this one. Diagonally placed stickers? Wild!!
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Tx Matt, when will we see the Z16?
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Is the hp webcam better than surface pro 8 too?? As you compare it to every windows laptop?
I'd say surface pro 8 is better
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It would be better if you showed the speaker performance of this guy compared to the best ones out there like MacBook. You should do that for all the laptops you will review from now on.
There's no competition compared to the MacBook. Not even worth showing
@@MatthewMoniz But it is kinda fun to listen to the differences.
I wish lenovo to implement the touchpad and keyboard also on their legion series .
i have an Asus with Ryzen processor, the battery life sucks. How's the battery life on this?
The OLED version may suck but IPS is much better. Asus has an OLED screen afaik.
Seems like there's another m.2 slot next to the left fan.
I have no idea why they always make its design complicated. For example, no need to put "FHD f/2.0..." in the camera area. Don't they think it would make a premium product more sophisticated and timeless. I am not using Apple products since it is not suitable for me but I must say I like the desgin of Apple more and Apple does not need to change their desgin every year since it can last years. Why other brand cannot do that, why they always make it so complicated.
would you know if the OLED variant has a refresh rate of at least 60hrz?
60hz, but 55% worse battery life
I'm a professional and for scientific applications I need either Linux or Unix. How does this laptop fare with *nix OSes?
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Ah shit, and there I was buying vegan leather thinking it was made of vegans
I own this an can attest - the track pad is AWESOME. And way more trackpad room now that they got rid of those clunky two buttons. My two cents.
That sticker placement IS weird. What the heck lol
"not made from actual vegans" I love how you didn't laugh and just kept going as if nothing happened
This versus the MBA m1 or m2?
Keeps saying it's for "executives". Is this local culture phrasing? This doesn't apply everywhere.
0:16 "It's not actually made of vegans"
You took your dark humor too far Matthew, I am partially offended.
will give that trackpad def. a try.
Ya its really good!
HDMI and SD Card slot should be compulsory for any laptop.
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When is next laptop setup😁
Soon!
If this laptop is more than £1200 then it's a no-buy
What is it with Lenovos thinkpad & X1 range? They're always as ridiculously priced as Razer, Dell & Apple.
All of Lenovo's Thinkpads are currently priced higher than a comparable MacBook. Apple isn't the overpriced king anymore.
No contrast ratio for the screen?
It's probably 1000:1 but I'll check when I get into the office for you tomorrow
The MacBook Pro 14 is s better option
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Lenovo ThinkPad vs ASUS Republic of Gamers
is the mx550 good light 1080p video editing
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Imagine paying 2k + for a laptop and not being able to edit videos on it…
Lenovo has killed most of what makes a ThinkPad, a ThinkPad. This laptop is atrocious.