Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon - The Best Business Laptop of 2023?
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- Опубликовано: 15 июл 2024
- The 2023 Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 11. Its one of the most popular business laptops on the market and for a good reason.
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As a thinkpad user I highly recommend them. Obviously knowing its pros and cons. Love mine.
Which one do you have ?
As a x1c user I have to disagree 😂 it overheat like hell. Luckily the next gen will have huge improvements in cooling.
@@marvinzhang3734what gen?
@@marvinzhang3734 the keep saying next gen will have better cooling since X1 gen 9. All I see is the next gen only has better "cooking". I wish X1 Thinkpad has AMD cpu option.
@@sayedamiruddin5635Thank you for reminding me why I haven't bought one (Intel only).
"you know, when you buy a porche"... what a relatable analogy
haha, Ive never bought a Porsche myself nor do I have any plans too. But yes not the most relatable analogy. Hopefully it still made sense
The last iteration, gen 10, had heat issues because the slim laptop was not built for the energy output of the Intel P series CPU. Gen 11 version of the X1 Carbon with Intel 13th gen U series CPU has far better heat management. It is a great laptop for the traveling business professionals. Good battery life with excellent single core performance without heat.
Yup absolutely love mine. Been thinkpad since T410
Have a 4th gen x1 carbon, 10 years and still working great
My first exposure to the ThinkPad was back in the early 2000s when it was part of the IBM line; it was my work laptop. It had the typing experience that other laptop makers aspired to, and the nub and trackpad are iconic. Great machines. Thanks for the review.
They definitely have some of the best keyboards
It was our study computer in high school
If someone types a lot, even being a writer fulltime, I would say, Lenovo Thinkpad is your friend. Their keyboards are a dream. Pure joy.
I have the lenovo x1 extreme gen 4 with rtx 3060 and 4k screen , i love this laptop and his family. I dint have any issues with the performance so far. Great videos like always.
I've got a Gen 10 for work, and I do love it. It's a beast and can handle anything I throw at it. It's controversial for ThinkPad fans, I know, but I absolutely hate the eraser. It gets in the way. If you're an advanced user, you don’t use a mouse. I do wish they would bring the soundbar over from the Yoga series.
Great content as always! Thank you Matthew :)
I have the thinkpad t14 with I7 11gen, 48gb of ram and it's amazing for what I do: basic photo and video edit, productivity, etc. Battery life is amazing, for travel is super light.
48gb of ram? Holy shit man
what about fan noise?)))
48gb???? How much did you pay for the laptop
48gb?? Where'd you buy that beast of a machine - I want one
@@yumisage He obviously bought a 32gb ram for that
Nodding my head in full agreement behind the screen of a X1 Carbon, FIRST generation :P in use since 2016. Never failed me.
Good review! I may have missed this, if you are using it with a lot of apps open and a lot of tabs in chrome or any browser with chats and conferences, would the battery last 8 hours?
My first TP was in 2015 when I was working at IBM, it was a T460, that time was a new version when ThinkPads started to be lighter. Now I have a TP X1 Carbon Gen 8, still getting the work done. One last comment, ThinkPad without track point is not a ThinkPad! Just saying! Great content, thank you Matt for bringing it!
They should have added some sort of magnetic charging port since these USB C ports are directly attached with motherboard and in situations of some mishaps it is very difficult to get it repaired.
I was thinking to buy the X1 carbon, and you uploaded the video. Thanks a lot.
Anytime!
I am watching this on X1 Carbon gen 4 - still going strong ;D
good sharing, tq for the review
Thinkpads aren't appreciated enough! I've been daily driving a x390 for over 3 years now and it stills functions as if it's new, battery life is still fantastic to this day, everything is as sturdy as it should, no reason to upgrade unless you do performance heavy stuff
The thinkpad x1 gen 12 is out and I'd like to see a review from you!
I bought one of them on release date, maxed out the config with 1370p, 64gb ddr5-7500 and swapped out with a WDBlack 4Tb 4.0 nvme. Linux is working PERFECTLY out of the box and this laptop is ridicoulsly fast. Once used for a week, I throw away macbook pro M1 as main laptop and Intel NUC 11 as main desktop PC. This blasts both of them in every tasks, including VMs and heavy docker with many containers.
One more thing. @home and @work, I use it in pair with LG43''4k display at 4k resolution with just one USBC cable for video and charging. Simply put on the table, plug the cable and that's it. Awesome.
How does it perform in terms of performance using it for software development compared to the Mac with m2?
@Rednunzio It depends on the tool you're using and also on the language. I'm using a lot of Python and the main advantage in using this language comes by linux, not by the hardware. This laptop is faster than an M2 in many aspects, especially when you run software Docker/VMs written for X86 and you don't need to pass from Rosetta2
how has been the battery life ?
I ordered 1370P from Lenovo website, but retuned it after 2 weeks due to the heat, reordered a 1365U, better than 1370P but still a little bit hot, but acceptable.
Not good enough, mine just 6-6.5 hours. EVO platform laptops should have at least 8 hours, right?@@hntsharma
I set one of these bad boys up and WOW is this thing a solid device.
Matt! I appriciate your work. When I am buying a laptop, I will follow.
Thanks! I appreciate it
Hi, is it good for architecture software uses ? Like Revit and Twinmotion
How long does battery last as in after full charge and time to replace with new battery ??
Back in early 2010’s there were two companies on top of business laptops, Lenovo and Toshiba. You don’t hear Toshiba that much now for a good reason but back then they were really competitive until Lenovo destroyed the competition with this and its variants. This is the industry standard laptop, the safe choice
When you say it is made of carbon fibre is that just the top of the screen or does the wrist rest have a slight softer rubbery feel like the old dell xps series?
how many frames do you get on Overwatch? It's the only game I play on PC and I'm getting a thin and light laptop like the HP Spectre hoping I can game on OW at 60 fps for hours on weekends and take it to work in the weekdays!
You should check the Lenovo ThinkPad T14s Gen 4 (AMD). The Ryzen 7 PRO 7840U variant with 32GB RAM is great for business and everything else.
And that the one who has titule of best one ti bad carbon does not have AMD cpu
I am also hesitating now what I should buy X1 carbon gen 11 or t14s gen 4 amd. Both are great laptops. I am Thinkpad user from 2008. Love them.
@@DG_427 What's the common issue they have?
@@DG_427May I ask which recent models would you recommend for both home and office to long-time ThinkPad fans? Thanks
I own a think pad x1 carbon and I love it and I just love watching videos like this. I don't know I'm just in love with this laptop cause it's so amazing and one of a kind in the market where no other laptop can even come close
Can i do some basic video & photo editing with this?
I love the build of Lenovo products but I really can´t not be team Apple right now thanks to great battery life. I hope other laptop producers catch up in this regard. I wouldn't mind my laptop being half a cm chonkier if they used this space for battery.
If only MS Office for Mac was a 1:1 of its PC brethren I would scoop up a MBP this weekend.
Cool, I definitely don’t need a smart card reader for my business laptop. I’ll gladly carry around another dongle that I can lose or forget just to save half and inch on the size of my laptop
Watching this on X1 Carbon 2022
I'm using a 3 yr old X1 Carbon from work. I really love the feal of the keyboard, but having the FN key left of the CTRL key drives me crazy. When doing development, I use the CRTL key a lot and I'm constantly hitting the FN key instead.
Just google how to change the key press for thinkpads. Lenovo makes it easy to swap the fn and ctrl key in the bios.
But did they fix the thunderbolt port PERMANENT dying issue that has plagued the Gen 6, Gen 7, Gen 8, and Gen 9?
How do you think this laptop compares to the Vaio SX14?
Excellent machines, used them at work for several companies before but never could justify getting one for personal use. Did get a couple of bigger cheaper 15 inch thinkpads for personal usage over the years but gave those up for performance of the gaming laptop!
can you do a review on the thinkpad X1 etreme gen 5 with rtx 3080ti and how does it preform in gaming
Can you make a video about best 360 laptops in this moment?
This laptop is amazing. And one of the most beautiful laptops ever made!
I just wish there was an AMD version :(
The most powerful amd option is the T series which is similar enough to the X form factor
Ok, so 4 years from now, I'll be able to buy this gem at a reasonable pricing in the refurbished market.
we know the laptop series name "thinkpad x1 carbon" won't change, only the generation;
so why didn't you add a word or two to the video title to specify its generation? is it too long or too hard?
what if next year you do review of a newer generation? same tittle?
Why is the ram soldered
is it possible to ask lenovo about that
its a pretty thick laptop there really isnt an excuse especially with how expensive it is
Nice review...waiting for your X1 Carbon Gen 12 review!! Thx!
Which sounds better this one or MacBook air 15?
I can't stand fan noise anymore. I bought a mac. My x1 extreme is way too loud
As a system admin Thinkpad have always been the go to when it comes to support from Lenovo! Dell used to be the go to.
Dell Latitudes 7000s are still good, but just not as good as Lenovo.
@@akin242002 yeah, it's hard to recommend
I never hade one, can you guys still recommend this in 2024? Will be used for web dev and programmming mostly.
I had an older version as a work laptop and man that thing sucked. Audio speakers died in a month, the touch pad was stopping to work and I had to hard reset every time, microphone was turning off if I started Docker so I could not participate in meetings(a software bug likely, but still). Honestly I've never had a more buggy laptop, except for 2014 MBP but it memory died just after the warranty expired. I think if I get my old Acer Aspire laptop from 2007 it will still work fine. Interestingly my current company gave me a slow ThinkPad and it works, I have a budget Lenovo Ideapad and it works too, unlike that wretched Carbon, but I mainly use MBP 2021 and I believe contemporary macbooks are much better for coding. Just some useless info :)
what model/generation was it?
Love this thing but the only complaint is where the "FN" key is when I want to use the control key, I constantly hit "FN" instead ugh!
You can change that in lenovo bios
i have to chose between this an a Mac 2014. Help me decide ?
I believe its a good laptop for IT related profession or business. Best laptop ever seen and used in Pakistan. Top tier performance soon it will compete HP, Dell, Apple, Sony the top companies. Thinkpad are also reliable so they can be used for Offices and Rendering images 4K. Best laptop ever
should I get this or Gen 12 with AI ?
I have x1 carbon gen 10 and it's depressing a bit. Always noice at full performance even if idle ('balanced' does not work properly and you encounter lags). Battery life sometimes not enough for 1h if you are sharing screen in teams. Windows 11 and firmware updates are frequent AF and poorly tested. They break something quite often, e.g. display connectivity, webcam stopping working or fan control goes bananas...
you should downgrade to *windows 10* then, or better yet, switch to *linux* it almost never annoys with update notice and certainly never force update
Its the issue of Intel 12 Gen.. All the laptops with this Intel gen are suffering. I have the T14 Gen 3- with 1255u... And it has been a disaster..though with new software updates, the fan noise has reduced, but the battery life is still shitty
Oh the Porsche example, taking inspiration from MKBHD's content?
Hesitating between this one and T14(s) AMD. One thing that holds me back is the touchpad and its mixed opinions. I don't know how the touchpads of the two models differ. Is it the same? Or the X1C has a better one? Lot of negative comments were on the rattling touchpad of the T14(s) AMD G3. Any X1C or T14 G4 users here to tell the truth on this?
Is this available with AMD cpu too?
U - level processor in best laptop?
very good laptop sir
thinkpad has always been a great laptop, i only wish the Fn and Ctrl key is swapped out
This is usually my only downside about the the TP, but its the best keyboard you can ever ask for.
What about exact model?
Why are you suddenly talking positive about this trackpoint, when in the previous videos you are totally hating on it and saying that they should get rid of it. Lol. Did Lenovo have a little word with you hahaha? (You have lost credibility by this nonsense change of fake opinion)
Ofc😂 almost all reviewers are getting paid
Nipples are best
How do I get used to thinkpad touchpad?
I own multiple thinkpads and bought a ThinkPad X1 carbon i7 with the upgraded OLED panel a few months ago. It was a really nice notebook but ultimately I ended up returning it after a week for two reasons. 1) windows 11 is a confused mess and 2) with the i7 and the upgraded OLED panel the battery life was abysmal (3-4 hours of moderate use). For the kind of money I spent I was really disappointed. Ended up going with an M2 MacBook pro and it's a significantly better experience for all day battery life editing photos. MacOS isn't perfect but it's so much better than Windows 11 which is a complete disappointment.
What i-7 processor did you use with the OLED screen. I have been considering the OLED screen but have heard bad things about the P series processors.
@@BUCKINUT from my order sheet...
ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 10 Intel (14") - Black
Processor 12th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-1270P vPro® Processor (E-cores up to 3.50 GHz P-cores up to 4.80 GHz) selected upgrade
Onboard Memory 32 GB LPDDR5-6400MHz (Soldered) selected upgrade
Solid State Drive 256 GB SSD M.2 2280 PCIe TLC Opal
Display 14" 2.8K (2880 x 1800), OLED, Anti-Reflection, Non-Touch, HDR 500, 100%DCI-P3, 400 nits selected upgrade
I would NOT recommend this build. Also this specific screen had extremely over saturated colours on non colour managed applications like web browsers. Even after using a spyder calibrator I did not enjoy how non colour managed apps looked (Adobe apps looked fine).
Maybe the 11th gen X1s are better or of you don't need Adobe apps Linux would surely be better than Windows 11 which is a such a disaster.
You won’t get any meaningful negative views that really matter in this review as it is sponsored by the manufacturer. In every other review, for example, there are frequent references to the fact that USB C is not on both sides as this is irritating for charging wire route purposes but suddenly here this video makes no reference to this shortcoming. Further, this review makes a benefit that the fan noise is under 40 dB yet you can certainly hear the fans in a meeting. Not great even under normal mixed productivity use but this review makes no mention of it. I usually like Matthew’s work but he should avoid the temptation to sully his reputation by accepting sponsorship,from the manufacturer of the product he is reviewing. Bad call. This laptop might well be good for certain use cases but it is far from great.
Why would you get this laptop for video editing? X1 Carbon line is built for traveling business consultants, sales reps, and managers. The OLED screen is for the managers of course because it reduces battery life.
For professional video editing the laptops are MacBook Pros, Asus ZenBook Pros, Dell XPS 15/17, and Lenovo Yoga line. MacBook Pros are at the top of the video editing hierarchy. Asus is 2nd place. Everyone else is fighting for 3rd.
@@akin242002 I'm very aware, I've be using X1 carbons for work since the very first gen. Who said anything about video editing? The OLED screen decision was for the 100% DCI P3 colour accuracy but unfortunately it halves the battery life.
Can you speak about the touchscreen
Odd that Lenovo is sponsoring all these videos now of a last-gen product - similar videos by Just Josh and AMDtech have also just come out. Makes me wonder if supply of the Meteor Lake chips is way less than normal, and so they figured they need to keep people interested in the X1 Carbon Gen 11.
If Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon has the effeciency of Apple Silicon and better screen, this product will be Lenovo hot cake. Hopefully, Snapdragon's X Elite Chip will save Windows and Carbon.
It is pronounced as "Porsche" not "Pors"..
I am planning to buy one Lenovo but I am so confused with too man laptop brands by Lenovo. Every category has about dozen sub-categories.
0:25
"it's kinda like porsche"
now where else did i hear that analogy again?
MKBHD maybe?
weight?
Love this PC, Sadly I can't afford it yet.
What are you using right now?
@@MatthewMoniz Its a Lenovo G50-80. A 2013 i3 😅😅😅
Price
Gen12 is released
3:00 someone must have trolled you, that's the weirdest thing i heard
is there a dell equivalent to this? my workplace gives discounts on dell products not lenovo unfortunately :/
Dell 9440 or Dell XPS 13
LOL, "Now it's matte...not this 'Matt'"
They should remove the Lenovo logo tag on the top cover. It is ok to imprint it on the screen or keyboard frame. “Lenovo” logo is much less cool than “ThinkPad” logo.
In that pricerange every laptop should have 90hz display.
For our business though the E14 Series made us question every expensive laptop.
Those are soooo good.
If i remember, e14 is the lowest one right? Does it still build like a tank too??
We have around 130 and not a single one damaged on the inside or outside. @@siontheodorus1501
One day, about ten years ago, my laptop Thinkpad X220 refused to boot the operating system from the ssd. At that moment, I was in a hotel in a small city in the far north, and I urgently needed this laptop to perform urgent tasks. In this situation, I simply booted a second operating system that was pre-installed on the second hard drive. Since then, I have believed that a laptop has no right to be called a “business laptop” if it does not have a second drive on which to install a second system. I have the same opinion regarding laptops without a flashlight (the X220 laptop had a flashlight «ThinkLight»), regarding laptops without a trackpoint, and, more recently, laptops without customizable backlighting for each key, and laptops with matrices subject to PWM flicker. And unfortunately, not a single modern laptop fits these requirements. I hope that Lenovo will someday release something that meets all these conditions, or ASUS will overtake them if they add a trackpoint to the ASUS ExpertBook B5 Flip IPS.
Not booting Windows would be a red flag for me, and I can confirm that I used to buy ThinkPads, but poor QC and blue screen of death meant I gave up on them, and after two Dells that died a year or so after warranty, I moved to Macs, and I have a 12-y-o and 7-y-o MB Pro that still run! So no to Lenovo and no to Windows for me!
In my practice, this was an isolated case, and it was not caused by the operating system. I have no complaints about Windows other than their new Start Menu. I described in my post one example of why having a second drive is important. But people's lives depend on the reliability of some laptops, and for this reason, increased fault tolerance is required from these devices. For many businessmen, it is important that the failure of the ssd during an important business meeting cannot cause its interruption, or cause the loss of at least one minute of work records. Therefore, it is important that information is continuously duplicated onto a second disk for backup. But many modern laptops do not have a second drive, and for some reason manufacturers position them as business laptops.
@@intellectbuilder for the last 15 years, I've always backed up my data to the cloud with end-to-end encryption. This is so if I lose the laptop I have a backup. No point having a second drive if it's stolen or lost or destroyed in an accident. I think the vast majority of people I deal with in business use the cloud now though initially they were wary of that.
yooh not the other matt 😂😂😂
Haha
T14s with AMD cpu is the one
You just cannot adjust the RAM on the Lenovo T14 AMD CPU versions. Also, the Intel versions usually have better single core performance on the business laptops.
The AMD CPU will provide better battery life, video editing performance, gaming, and multi-core performance (for extreme levels of CPU work).
I hope lenovo can put amd apus in the X1 chassis. Intel is behind in both power efficiency and graphics
T14s 😉
Lenovo will never put amd into the X1 line as the X1 line is codeveloped with Intel and thus Intel exclusive
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512gb SSD is too small, can it be expanded??
The only thing that annoys me about Lenovo is their crappy way of pricing their laptops to oblivion and having all these "sales" to knock them down to the price they should be. And shipping times are all over the place depending on the laptop and configuration. Apple laptops are expensive but at least you always know what the going price should be and whether what you are getting is a deal or not. Also, I wish they'd put a haptic touchpad on it so it could compete with Apple in that department.
Good news! They added a Sensel (that's us) haptic touchpad optional upgrade for the X1 Carbon Gen 12 and X1 2-in-1 Gen 9 (FKA Yoga), coming out in March 2024!
@@SenselInc That’s great news! Thanks for updating here.
You're welcome @@Watchandlearn91 !
the think pad is the glock of all laptops
With all due respect, but I already used to work with silent laptops (MBP M1) and for me ANY noise generated by the cpu cooler in the laptop is just unforgiving. BUT as Apple is making worse and worse products every new generation, I'm really waiting for ARM equipped laptops on which I could run Linux OS and stop overpaying for apple logo for... no added value but rather more constrain system.
I have a gen 9 and it's perfect except for the lack of a 16 inch version with the same slim formfactor
It's funny how you reviewers take a renewed interest in a product all at the same time when it's sponsored.
why is it so cheap that i cant afford it.
One thing I’ve always been curious is how long these X1s last.
For example how does a 2018 model age in 2023 in terms of build quality
I have a X1 Yoga gen 3 from 2018 and it is rock solid still - with no noticeable wear and tear. The laptops clean up nicely if you take care of them and ironically, I believe it still has (or may have just expired) the On-site warranty which can be extended well past 3 years.
I like Lenovo laptop
Ah! yes Porsche a brand we all can relate too
My ThinkPad T480 motherboard failed, not impressed.
2 2-way speakers, not 4!!
Not arguing not debation regular talk dosent count
As a college student,I wish Matthew if you could give me laptop that you are not using, that would be great, btw I live in London Ontara Canada.
Better keyboard than MBP? Yeah….right…
MacBook Pro does not have the best keyboard. Its good but its not the best. Touchpad on the other hand MacBook Pro/Air is at the top.
No amd options unfortunately. That would have made it over the top
Thinkpad T14s AMD is what you want. It is very very very close to the X1 in quality and premium feel but with better thermals and that sweet AMD processor and iGPU. I own the T14s Gen 3 (amd) and I can never go back to an X1 Carbon. Blows it out of the water and with better battery life!