Thanks Lon! Great review. I bought the Z13 specifically for the haptic touchpad that can change pressure needed to register a click (like Macbooks). It also has 6850U/680M iGPU (RDNA2) and Freesync on the non-OLED version at 40-60 hz.
This guy gets it! Best review of this model I've seen. Already on order. Seems like everything I like from a Thinkpad (I've had several) for work but good for personal and creative work/life. Very few sacrifices. Best windows alternative to a Mac Air M2 I think. We'll see when I get it! Battery was most important for me but I did not want to sacrifice much performance.
Lon!💎 I'm deliberating between a Z13 (6850U/16gb/512) and a base 15" Air (M2/8gb/256) -- Any thoughts? Or should I hold out for the M3 / 7840U? Thanks🦘
Good review thx. Unfortunately i am still confused about battery life: Some reviews/clients claim the get ~10 hours on webbrowsing, others just ~6hours - both of course using the same IPS panel and 50% brightness.
Appealing machine, metal is a must - checked, but someone should hit on the heads those "designers" continuing to crap these half-sized keys out. Nasty trend it is.
Hi I ordered this laptop and due to arrive to me in a week time. I also ordered a 2242 2tb sabrent nvme. Would you be able to demonstrate if we can use another nvne on the other m.2 slot
Lon did they restore press to select on the trackpoint? That feature went away in Windows 10 and since then I've moved onto Dell and HP, which both still have it in Windows 10.
To be honest they aren't that special these days. Imo feel went downhill and badly when they went to modern chicklet style keyboards. Older thicker models were phenomenal, but they're long gone.
Great review, terrible computer. Lenovo, with every generation, move farther away from the ThinkPad design. They don't understand what their customers want or need. ThinkPad users need a quality keyboard and 3 button trackpoint. If your design doesn't have that, you've failed before you've started. What ThinkPad users really want is lots of ports, a thinklight, decent docking, and the ThinkVantage technologies like spill-proof keyboards, metal hinges, and magnesium chassis. This is just a typical netbook style machine, albeit with a decent spec. But it's not a ThinkPad. Lenovo took one of IBM's greatest brands, and slowly strangled it.
Coming from a MacBook this is an excellent Windows alternative. Finally get a glass trackpad like the Macs and I don't mind not having ThinkPad features. I see where die-hard Thinkpad users come from but as a neutral buyer, this is better than an XPS 13.
Can we please have a super cut of all of the Lon-waving-at-the-webcam shots from all of your laptop reviews?
Thanks Lon! Great review. I bought the Z13 specifically for the haptic touchpad that can change pressure needed to register a click (like Macbooks). It also has 6850U/680M iGPU (RDNA2) and Freesync on the non-OLED version at 40-60 hz.
Wow. That noise cancellation on the mic seems great! Great review, thanks!
Thanks for including that linux review!
Thanks for including Linux in your review 👍
Yes - I jut ordered one of these laptops and plan on installing Linux pretty much immediately. Glad to see it working properly :-)
The bronze and leather option feels super primo.
Best review for this laptop i have come across. Thank you
Should come with a dongle or something, scared of so few ports
They assume you will dock it when its on a desk. USB4 gives you a one cable docking solution.
nice to see they kept this form i like, i still use an old ThinkPad X250 and they`re awesome and immortal
13:47 Wow. Those M2's are impressive.
Got one and it's really impressive how long I can use ie. 3D CAD on battery and still have decent performance.
This guy gets it! Best review of this model I've seen. Already on order. Seems like everything I like from a Thinkpad (I've had several) for work but good for personal and creative work/life. Very few sacrifices. Best windows alternative to a Mac Air M2 I think. We'll see when I get it! Battery was most important for me but I did not want to sacrifice much performance.
I think Z16 model has better CPU (6650H processor).
Lon!💎 I'm deliberating between a Z13 (6850U/16gb/512) and a base 15" Air (M2/8gb/256) -- Any thoughts? Or should I hold out for the M3 / 7840U? Thanks🦘
Good review thx. Unfortunately i am still confused about battery life: Some reviews/clients claim the get ~10 hours on webbrowsing, others just ~6hours - both of course using the same IPS panel and 50% brightness.
My advise fine someone who physically own one and ask them.
I have one and I can get like 8 hours of heavy work.
Appealing machine, metal is a must - checked, but someone should hit on the heads those "designers" continuing to crap these half-sized keys out. Nasty trend it is.
6850U and 6860Z have the same Radeon 680M iGPU.
Came to say this, strange thing to miss...
Thank you for your DOOM Eternal test! And of course for your trackpoint test!
Hi I ordered this laptop and due to arrive to me in a week time. I also ordered a 2242 2tb sabrent nvme. Would you be able to demonstrate if we can use another nvne on the other m.2 slot
Lon did they restore press to select on the trackpoint? That feature went away in Windows 10 and since then I've moved onto Dell and HP, which both still have it in Windows 10.
I dug around and don't see that option unfortunately.
@@LonSeidman Thanks for the followup, I was hopeful since it has that extra menu you mentioned in the review but it seems like they've abandoned it.
I just wonder why they left tiny space for NVME limiting it to 1TB.
If dual side NVME works there's 2TB SSD's.
Can you please make a review for ThinkPad X1 Extreme Gen 5 Intel (16) thanks
Amazing machine
How about the webcam on Ubuntu?
Mess with anything but the keyboard Lenovo.
To be honest they aren't that special these days. Imo feel went downhill and badly when they went to modern chicklet style keyboards. Older thicker models were phenomenal, but they're long gone.
The AI Microphone is wild. Not studio quality, but amazing for most perole.
It sounded like garbage. Just without white noise. It's better to use software denoisers like NoiseTorch
I wouldn't want a track pad like this.
Great review, terrible computer. Lenovo, with every generation, move farther away from the ThinkPad design. They don't understand what their customers want or need. ThinkPad users need a quality keyboard and 3 button trackpoint. If your design doesn't have that, you've failed before you've started. What ThinkPad users really want is lots of ports, a thinklight, decent docking, and the ThinkVantage technologies like spill-proof keyboards, metal hinges, and magnesium chassis. This is just a typical netbook style machine, albeit with a decent spec. But it's not a ThinkPad. Lenovo took one of IBM's greatest brands, and slowly strangled it.
No ports
No upgradability
No repairability
This is not a Thinkpad
Not to mention what where they thinking to make trackpoint without physical keys. Such a bizarre, downright stupid design choice.
If you want upgradeable and repairable the gold standard is Framework. Lenovo has been going downhill on repairability for more and more machines.
@@chrisallegretta they don't sell on Brasil, + they focus too much on gimmicks and too little on make a good notebook
Coming from a MacBook this is an excellent Windows alternative. Finally get a glass trackpad like the Macs and I don't mind not having ThinkPad features. I see where die-hard Thinkpad users come from but as a neutral buyer, this is better than an XPS 13.
@@jothain The haptic pad is frankly awesome and the top area acts as the two buttons. Just way less clunky than buttons.