@@SulphuridAcid-H2SO4 Depends on the price, it's an ok CPU, but yeah Zen 3+ is 2 generations old now, but as we saw in this video CPU matters less at 1440p.
@@JarrodsTech Can you please also mention Ryzen 5 5500H and Ryzen 5 7235HS (no review needed) in description or something to create further awareness? Thanks. - Ryzen 5 5500H is lower version (4C/8T, 8MB L3, 6 CU) of Ryzen 5 5600H (6C/12T, 16MB L3, 7 CU) same boost, available in super cheap gaming laptop and quite popular (at least in my country)... meanwhile similar name Ryzen 5 5500U (Zen 2) and desktop Ryzen 5 5500 have 6C/12T. - Ryzen 5 7235HS is even worse (4C/8T, 8MB L3, 4.2 GHz boost slower than Ryzen 3 7335U, iGPU disabled) vs Ryzen 5 7535HS (6C/12T, 16MB L3, 4.55 GHz, 6 CU RDNA2 1.9 GHz), not sure about laptop availability but I'm sure it soon will.
@@galahad5688 then one rather get a desktop lol laptop, no matter gaming or office, should be able to be portable with little to worry about battery life
Title "avoid this cpu" Entire review "everything is fine with it and it can keep up with higher tiers of cpu. Just that battery life is bad" Who the hell even comes up with these stupid titles ?
The battery life is bad because the CPU lacks integrated graphics. That's why you avoid it. Apparently everyone in this comment thread didn't bother to watch the video.
I ordered this laptop with same specs but with more ssd. The reason I don’t care is because I wont be existing where there are no power outlets. Yes it is nice to have more battery life, but those laptops that given considerable battery life (and have higher screen resolutions) cost several hundred dollars more. I want to use it at several places, but I have power outlets and external monitors there. So I have to critique your title as too click baity.
For anyone who was thinking to buy but after this video is reluctant let me assist you all.. this is best laptop for gaming at this price point if your budget is higher then no question you can have whichever you want but for the price normally a gamer would not game unplugged and still it gives 3 hour battery life at 60 whr battery ...and similar graphics with intell 12450h also last the same on battery despite having igpu so chill and i have used this laptop the thermals are actually really good cpu usage never go above 60 percent and gpu temp always below 70 degrees so for long term its a good point to consider.
Absolutely agree with you. I have been using it for 3 weeks now and I am surpised with gaming performance but also on how quiet and smooth it is when on balanced mode. We should always compare apples to apples: this is a budget gaming laptop not a pro and in its price range there are barely one or two alternatives to compare with.
The only criticism seems to be battery life which at 2:10 is shown to be approx 3.5 hours. it is then not contrasted with an IGP LOQ 7735 4060 model but with LOQ's running different CPU/GPU's that get 20% longer battery life. Do they have the same battery mah? How does battery compare when actually gaming? Not sure the title conclusion chimes with the otherwise great review. My summary would be "Bargain budget gaming laptop (20% less battery when non-gaming)". I've seen people claming 6+ hours by turning everything down on similar non IGP setups? Interested to see a re-review focusing solely on battery life of the 7435 chips with "tips and tweaks for battery eeks" as it's low price makes it highly relevant in the budget gaming arena. It would also be handy if the charts showed the release price for each laptop to check we're not comparing apples with oranges.
@@nightbot4954You could get 20% off in July so about £650 (inc VAT!) with no o/s, 1tb, 24gb, RTX4060. Now more like £760. The most similar model WITH IGP I now see is closer to £1000. So it's a misleading conclusion when we get no comparison to a very similar model with IGP re price, battery etc. In July the review should have concluded "Best budget laptop in history (for the price) - Buy now", though it WAS on their deals page. Anyone in the market for a low budget gaming pc, with any knowledge snapped it up on sight.
@@nightbot4954 I replied at length but over zealous RUclips censor bot deleted it afaik. Forgot to clipboard it, not retyping. Terrible platform to discuss
True what Jarrod said. I just bought this laptop (infact I watched this video on it) and while the gaming performance is expected from 4060, the battery life is pretty bad. To workaround it, I always use battery saver mode when i'm using for office works which can last me for 4 - 6 hour and that is enough for me. I don't think there's any reason to ever play games without it plugged on a laptop IMO.
I have a laptop i9 from a few years ago, the integrated graphics failed and was creating crazy glitches, lucky I figured out the problem and use the laptop permanently on discrete graphics without any problems.
By their own "Ryzen 7000" mobile naming graph the 7435HS should be a Ryzen 3 even though no H or HS Ryzen CPU is a Ryzen 3 It being a 16 thread chip that has a model name below the 12 thread 7535HS doesn't help either Don't get me started on the "Ryzen 5 *7235HS* "
Don't know much about computers, but after watching your videos extensively I just bought a Lenovo Loq 15 with Ryzen 7 PRO 7840HS CPU and RTX 4060, hope its a good computer and I can play ETS2 and ATS on ultra graphics :) keep up the good work man & congrats on 700k!
M using this laptop, and so far i dont miss the igpu. with some gpu undervolting, and power saving mode, i can do intensive work for 2 hours, and less intensive work for 3.5 hours... If you play games, this is beast and temprature is also very very low due to lack of igpu cpu runs cooler. backup is still more than my previous nitro 5 with 5600h. display is amazing and gsync & 100%srgb really makes a difference. i dont notice any ghosting or motion blur while playing games.. You can just buy a 65w or 100w charger and charge it anywhere via type c if concerned about battery life.
Glad to see comment about the temp. I was considering buying this laptop, didnt care about battery life but was worried about the temp when playing games
What a misleadung title. I have this exact laptop and its price/performance is amazing. Perfect for 1080p gaming and work and battery life dont matter everyone plays with laptop plugged in. Actually it can even play most games on 1440p monitor.
Bro's coping, why would you even buy a laptop if you dobn't care about battery life. Just build a PC instead dude, you'll get much better performance for much less money. Cope harder.
@sagittariusa581 u tripping. I'm looking for one and I don't care at all about battery life. My previous laptop didnt even had a battery lol. Who in this world run laptop on the battery?
Might as well save money on the 7840HS if it's available for less money, almost the same thing in terms of performance shown in this video with the Legions.
I should have talked more about the naming scheme, because this is a perfect point - the 7535HS has fewer cores and threads, so it's actually a lower tier part as far as raw CPU performance goes, but it has an iGPU and has a higher number than the 7435HS, so people may just assume it's better in every way.
Hey Jarod! Do you know a good power bank or alternative to charge a gaming laptop when traveling? As you know, gaming laptop batteries are quite quick to run out. How do you deal with this?
Glad you mentioned it, because I was sick of explaining it to other people shouting: “Look at the price!”. I already informed my audience a few days ago that I would not post any offer of a laptop with Ryzen 5 7235HS + Ryzen 7 7435HS processors.
@@JarrodsTechI get extreme screen flickering when the system tries to use it. So I had to disable the igpu in bios. Also Asus software is not good. Its completely stable in games and performs well, just when using web browsers or some other apps with hardware acceleration does the problem appear. Can't wait for strix halo apu.
My main PC has a Ryzen 7 7840HS CPU and it's a beast lmao, it's a mini PC, it's surprising to see that some AMD CPUs aren't that great, my 7840Hs is so powerful(for a mobile CPU).
Its not that some cpus arent great, its just that the video has no legit point whatsoever and its completely trash It like arguing that 13900kf is bad compared to 13900k only because lacking almost useless graphics. Any of these 7000 series arent great anyways but for totally different reason and that is that they have only 16mb l3 cache and so are worse than deskt0p 5000 series.
@@filippetrovic845 he said its bad for people who use the laptop on battery, if you don't then you are not targeted , and it's good for you actually its bad, since there are other laptops with a 7840hs with better cpu performance and an igpu and for cheaper, so why would you get the worse cpu anyway
I saw this video yesterday and I still bought this exact model today 😊 I'm gonna be plugged in all the time anyway and $799 for a 4060 Laptop is pretty epic. I was gonna get a 4050 model until I saw this price. Great video with good information!
This is just a desperate attempt from AMD to compete on the low-price segment with Intel. Pretty pointless if you ask me. I bet this will be discontinued within 6 months.
@@Ararion The 2023 models with qhd screens do have 100 percent sRGB. The one which Jarrod got also had that but yes most 2023 loqs don't which is why I personally went for acer nitro 16
Step 1 download afterburner step 2 lock the clock at a non boost clock speed. step 3 undervolt until you reach the same power consumption of the iGPU while doing everyday tasks (7-15w) step 4 save the profile so, when you are doing document your 4060 will act at half speed like a normal igpu. When you game, switch the profile and enjoy your powerful external GPU. Problem solved.
the 4060 is officialy stated to run at a minimum of 35w. and undervolt that extreme will never work. plus 99% of users wont even know what you are talking about if you tell them about this, it is extrememly predatory for the masses
@@davitdavid7165 it's minimum 35w when 100% of use. Not 35w when idle state. So if you lock the clock and do a massive undevolt you'll probably don't get the 3w power like an iGpu but you can have a massive uplift in battery life while being able to do all the normal tasks. Ps: windows and Informatics need skills. It's a choice to be an informed consumer or not
Luckily it's doesn't solve the issues, while using igpu only, on idle battery life still sucks. There's an issue on motherboard, some part draw more power, causing overheat and later motherboard getting fried. It's on every LOQ 15xx model, my local lenovo repair center already confirmed there's a lot of cases like this
Can we refund a lenovo laptop even if it hasn't had any problem yet? I had the LOQ 15IRX9 with i5-13450hx 3050 one, its been 2 months since i bought it online but i havent had any issue other than the battery drop. (I'm scared of the motherboard issue thats happening nowadays)😢
I cannot, I don't have any information other than what has been reported in the news recently - which is a mixture of things, Intel apparently saying the issues don't affect mobile, but then some different problem, we will have to wait and see.
On the upside... not need for mux This is also why im thinking about getting a pre owned laptop off ebay instead of official retailers. Models in AU just suck
It's a shame au gets the short stick when it comes to technology. Before samsung s24 all previous models were exynos which sucked. Internet speeds aren't great and now laptop cpu just aren't good
In India🇮🇳, Dell G15 Ryzen 7 7840HS 16GB DDR5 165Hz 512Gb is INR 1,08,890/- which is USD 1300.61$ and Lenovo LOQ R7 7435HS 24GB DDR5 144Hz 512Gb is INR 86,990/- which is USD 1039.07$ I should probably go with the LOQ😅
Are they though? Like, are you just one out of 5-10 vocal people? How many are there? I'm sure from your perspective it seems bad, you have to deal with it, I just can't get an idea of how widespread it actually is myself and it's hard to get any useful info from Lenovo.
Cpu is old but as long as it does not bottleneck the 4060, I see no problem with this laptop.. this is the cheapest 4060 laptop as well.. like way way cheaper..
I have LOQ with 7840HS + RTX 4050 and 7435HS + RTX 4060 at same price I do CPU-Heavy tasks And play GPU intensive games when free I am inclined towards more 7840HS + RTX 4050 But the 7435HS + RTX 4060 is steal deal and I can't find 4060 cheaper than that What should I do ?
In my country, india, the LOQ mother board issue, and the battery drain issue have spread like plague.. most of the LOQ users in my country suffered from this problem..
I guess because it's better than wasting the chips, might as well try use them for something. The only issue I have with it is unless you know what a 7435HS is, you'd probably just buy it without knowing the limit of no iGPU.
Hi want to ask is it worth it to buy for studying and playing some triple a game my courses have some basic graphics and design is it worth it first time buying laptop
I thought this was a thing on intels new meme, where nothing you can do, just wait for the patch in august and hope your thing doesn't crash. either way, it doesn't affect me, my old busted laptop has one purpose and it's to feed my factorio addiction.
I wonder if that patch will go out for laptop cpu's since they said they aren't affected... at least that's kinda good news something is being done and addressed and may totally fix it instead of everything being up in the air with nothing said lol.
So Can i go for this loq or dell g15 please reply, They are currently available for the same price. And as mentioned in the video the loq's battery life is bad but the same goes for dell g15 even with integrated graphics, So which one should I get.
People don't by gaming laptop battery life and if you enable the Nvidia battery saving features then you will get very similar to an integrated vpu from Intel
@@AlphaNOVA69 well, I did post this about a month I go, I'm pretty sure it was about a laptop and it's battery life and if that's what you're talking about, then you can go and looking at video app and you can change the battery life settings and then you can actually get half decent battery life from your gaming laptop. My comment though not very well worth. It was supposed to say that gamey laptops are not designed as office computers. You're obviously not going to get the best backs your life out of them. And I am guilty of that.. I just spent three and a half thousand pounds on the laptop with two hours. Battery life and well it's my own fault, really? Because I'm using it for letters and work are for its entangled purpose, which was gaming. You can get better life out of the gaming laptop. You just have to be a bit more clever about it. You have to change the CPU settings to throttle it to like five percent when on battery and you have to do the same with your graphics card in the settings menus of the Nvidia app. It's not a gnarkey comment I was serious don't buy gaming laptops for works. I made that mistake. You're not going to get amazing. The battery life out of it. And well, that's just the way they are. And that's what annoyed me about the video.
Hoping I'm not commenting too late for you to see, but I am currently stuck between an ASUS TUF A15 2021 vs 2023 model. The former only has a 48 Wh battery which would mean low battery life, and the 2023 model comes with a 90 Wh battery, but includes the Ryzen 7 7435HS. For me, the longevity of my laptop comes ahead of performance, so I'm stuck wondering which one would have a longer battery life, and which one is more likely to last longer in general. I would appreciate it immensely if I could get an answer.
If you're buying a gaming laptop, it doesn't really matter if it has an igpu or not, because these laptops typically offer a maximum of 3 to 4 hours of battery life. gaming laptops are meant to be used while plugged in
@@gamingwarrior3108 tbf though a good gaming laptop nowadays can get up to like 6+ hours of battery life (ie; laptops with higher tier Ryzen chips), yes you usually plugged it in for gaming but some people also used their gaming laptop for their workflow and such
What about the variants with i5 12/13gen hx ? I really want to buy this laptop but im scared that the motherboard will break and the battery will drian very fast 😢
Sorry mate but I think on this occasion, you're DEAD WRONG!! I've used all my gaming laptops almost exclusively for gaming whilst plugged into a wall socket. I have zero use for an iGPU. If I want to look at the internet or watch The Boys, I'll do it either on my phone or the TV. And this LOQ 15 has one humongous advantage over other gaming laptops...its price! I paid £700 ($US 900) for mine which is already cheap. Had I waited another 4 weeks, I could have picked it up for £622 ($US 800). I don't care if I'm in a minority of one but I absolutely applaud Lenovo & AMD for bringing this ultra cheap but very capable gaming laptop to the market. I predict it will sell like hot cakes despite your 'avoid' recommendation.
Hi there. I owe this one too and I am surprised by its performance and value. I am also surprised by the torrent of negative feedback this machine attracts by "experts"! Anyway. Today I came across an offer in my local market with a victus model carrying 7840hs and rtx 4070 for the same money I paid for the loq. I was initially disappointed thinking I rushed into buying the loq but doing some research I found out that same games perform better in my (our) machine than in the victus with better specs. For example plaguentale requiem reaches 95 fps on youtube videos with the victus 4070 whereas i get 115fps easily, same settings. My idea? I would appreciate your opinion on this. Ty
@@loukasbalomenos2600 I am really surprised you can get that particular HP Victus for the same money. That model isn't available in the UK but I found it in France for the eye watering price of €2,850 ($US 3,100)! Here you can get the Victus with a 4060 for £899 but that comes with a crappy i5-12500H & a 250 nit screen...and that's STILL £200 more than I paid for my LOQ. Under normal circumstances, I'd say if you can get a 4070 Victus for $US 900, then go for it but TBH, it sounds way too good to be true. The lower FPS says to me they mean the 4050 & the 4070 is a typo!
I have this processor in my LOQ, it also has RTX 4050 with 6gb vram and 24gb ram. Works just fine for my usage wich is playing World of Warcraft usually plugged to external monitor or plugged to a power outlet while traveling longer periods of time.
@@unionofslavstanrepublics2317 its a moot point anyways, desktop replacement have never seen battery life as a crucial department, rather the mobile workstation needs
I am one of those here who have actually bought it. I made a conscious choice of sacrificing battery life for performance being on a tight budget. The title of the video is a bit of a let-down for us owners, but you actually point some of its merits through your review. My experience with the machine confirms your data. So I think a fair presentation would be to place the product in a "value for money" context. At least in Greece I couldn't find a more attractive option (including 3 years warantee and xbox ultimate pass for 3 months!) But yes, potential buyers should be warned about the limitations in autonomy.
Καλησπέρα πατριώτη ποιο μοντέλο πήρες αν μπορείς να μου πεις και από πού και αν είσαι ευχαριστημένος γιατί και εγώ σκέφτομαι να αγοράσω τώρα λάπτοπ και βλέπω το loq και το asus Tuf A15
@@Raikou1914Καλησπέρα φίλε μου. Αγόρασα ακριβώς αυτό που παρουσιάζει ο Jarrod εδώ, δηλαδή amd 7435hs με κάρτα 4060. Εάν το θέλεις για gaming σκίζει, τρέχει τα πάντα ακόμα και σε ultra settings αλλά ξεχνάς το τροφοδοτικό στην πρίζα. Σε μπαταρία δεν βγάζει ούτε 30 λεπτά gaming. Για σερφαρισμα κλπ με το ζορι 3 ωρες. Ο λόγος είναι ότι ο amd που φοράει δεν έχει κάρτα γραφικών οπότε όλα περνάνε από την nvidia η οποια βεβαια ρουφαει ρευμα. Άλλο προβληματάκι είναι τα ηχεία. Θα αποδώσουν μόνο όταν έχεις ανοιχτή μια app που συνοδεύει το laptop αλλά και πάλι έχω ακούσει πολύ καλύτερα. Για τα λεφτά του είμαι super ικανοποιημένος γνωριζοντας όμως ότι ουσιαστικά ειναι deskrop replacement. Έχει βγάλει όντως και η asus ένα tuf με τα ίδια specs οπότε διαλέγεις αυτό που σου ταιριάζει αισθητικά. Πάντως για τα loq του 2024 ακούστηκαν πολλά για καμμενα motherboards (ειδικά όσα φοράνε intel) . Εάν θέλεις καλύτερη αυτονομία μπαταρίας και λίγο καλύτερα specs υπάρχει στη loq σειρά νέος επεξεργαστής amd 8 με integrated graphics , όπου να' ναι θα βγει και Ελλάδα. Εμένα με ένοιαζε μόνο το θέμα τιμής και από αυτήν την άποψη είναι super. Τώρα έπαιζα plague tale και πιάνει χαλαρά 110 fps με ultra graphics. Οθόνη OK όχι κατι τρομερό αλλά ούτε χάλια. Ελπίζω να βοήθησα!
Μοντέλο loq 15 arp9 15" amd ryzen 7435 hs rtx 4060 , παίζει σε όλα τα καταστήματα αλυσίδες στα 999. Δεν μπορούσα να βρω καλύτερη τιμή για 4060 αλλά ήξερα ότι δεν θα βγάζει πολλή ώρα εκτός ρεύματος.
Εγώ ήμουν ανάμεσα στο lenovo loq 16 με ryzen 7 7840 που έχει μέσα ενσωματωμένα γραφικα (ryzen 7000) και την gtx 4050 με 16gb ram που σκέφτομαι να την επεκτείνω και το asus tuf A15 με τα ίδια χαρακτηριστικά με μόνη διαφορά τον επεξεργαστή τον ryzen 7 7735 όπου έχει και αυτός τα ίδια ενσωματωμένα γραφικά το λενοβο το βρήκα στα 900€ από το e-lenovo που δεν έρχεται με λειτουργικό (θα το εγκαταστήσω εγώ) και το asus στα 990€ που υπάρχει σε πολλά καταστήματα τώρα με απάντησε και ο jarrod όπου μου είπε να πάω στο lenovo loq και εγώ εκεί με βλέπω και λόγο οθονης 16 inches και παρόμοιων χαρακτηριστικών πιστεύεις είναι καλή αγορά; Το λάπτοπ το χρειάζομαι γιατί τον άλλο μήνα μπαίνω στο καράβι (μηχανικός εμπορικού ναυτικού) και το θέλω όσο μπορώ για τον ελεύθερο χρόνο για καμιά ταινία και κάνα παιχνίδι σε ευχαριστώ πολύ που μου απάντησες περιμένω την γνώμη σου να σε καλά
Κι εγώ το loq θα διάλεγα. Θεωρώ ότι απο performance θα είναι στα ίδια ακριβώς επίπεδα + ότι το laptop που σκέφτεται έχει δοκιμαστεί στην αγορά και δεν έχουν ακουστεί προβλήματα! Στη τιμή αυτή μην το πολυσκέφτεσαι. Καλό μπάρκο!
Here in the UK it was about £200 cheaper than the Ryzen 7 8845HS version last week and cheaper than the Intel ARC version, so ordered it for £645 with RTX 4060 and 1TB drive. There doesn't seem to be anything close in price here with an RTX 4060 and although the screen isn't that bright at least the sRGB coverage is decent, better than the some of the other lower budget systems. For this price I think the lack of iGPU compromise is fine, although worth warning people about it.
for me the lack of iGPU is a plus, one less thing to disable, since i always check if a laptop has a mux switch or no iGPU before i settle on buying it.
@@arvindsingh2168 So that i can disable the iGPU during gaming, editing or any GPU intensive tasks also i detest Optimus since it was launched. YMMV as always and for me when buying gaming laptops having MUX switch or no IGPU the better. Gaming laptops in my opinion should not have Optimus
Hmm, the 7535HS has a higher number but it's actually a weaker performing part with 6 cores / 12 threads - BUT it has integrated graphics, so better battery life - depends which of those is your priority.
i have it for about 2 months , super nice laptop, low temps great performance !Before that i had an hp victus with ryzen 5 5600h and gtx 1650 and for some reason the loq lasts longer unplugged ,in gaming it is certain that lasts longer and in youtube most likely !I do not know exactly why but it is 100 % true!Also it does play in the same settings and almost same fps plugged and unplugged which was not the case with the old one which did have integrated graphics! Cpu and gpu is super conservartive in power might be the reason.
I would go with a laptop like this but is there any difference in thermals/fan noise when compared to laptops with integrated graphics with or without a mux switch? Also is there any meaningful change in battery life with an AMD gpu?
I didn't bother with the full fan recording setup just basic thermals here, but I can't say I noticed or thought about it during testing, didn't seem any louder.
btw , i got the HP Victus 16 , it's also very poor battery life , just 2 hours office work , 60% battery life gone . the LCD also very worst compare to other 45% NTSC panel .
Of course, but we won't see it until next year, and then decent prices and availability will be months after launch, so depends if you want to actually use something anytime soon. 4080 should still offer excellent performance for years.
so far we only have rumors and most of those are on the desktop side. I do like the g16, but would probably ait till then. When we know more about the gpu and vendors are clearing out space and lowering prices more it might be a smart buy
4080 was such a huge leap for laptop gaming it can play things so well and now with dlss and frame generation on top of it I wouldn't worry about missing out. It's almost like a 3090 desktop gpu in a laptop which is crazy and 8-12 months waiting for the new laptops is a really long time you could be gaming so up to you.
I bought my Lenovo Legion with its Nvidia 2060 GPU in September 2020. I only ever used it for gaming whilst it was plugged into a wall socket, so for 99% of the time, the iGPU was redundant & the dGPU did all the heavy lifting. Over the passing years, that laptop saw A LOT of use...and 4 years later, it's still working perfectly. All this talk about laptops lacking an iGPU failing prematurely is a load of old twaddle! However, whilst the Legion is as fast now as when I first bought it, it struggled to keep up with modern, AAA games, particularly The Last Of Us (brilliant game, buy it!). Which is why I recently bought myself a LOQ 15 with the 7435HS & the 4060...and honestly, for what I paid for it, it's brilliant!!
Good day. I would like to inquire about the integrated graphics capabilities of the Lenovo LOQ 15AHP9 laptop equipped with the AMD Ryzen™ 7 8845HS Processor. Kindly provide me with the relevant specifications and confirm if the device indeed features integrated graphics. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
anything is better than intel i9-14900HX. That cpu is unstable AF. I needed to disable my optimus to prevent my G16 Rog Strix from Blue screening all the time. I don't really care about battery life tbh. I don't ever game without plugging the laptop in and the Battery is only important to get the needed time to properly turn the laptop off if the power grid goes out.
Great video. I am curious on your opinion on Ultra 185H as a viable gaming CPU or not? These benchmarks are hampered by Omen low wattage GPU so doesn;t give a good idea. Thank you
It's not my favorite, in RDR2 in particular it seems lower than 4060 with 4070, and that was in the Alienware m16 R2 and Zephyrus G16 (video coming soon).
I mean, the biggest problem here is nVidia GPU's and their awful power consumption on battery, I get it, no iGPU no excuses, but seriously, nVidia no excuses either.
Good news for those of us in Europe; this Lenovo LOQ is or was just on sale for around €900 (RTX 4060, 24 GB DDR5, 1TB SSD) which is an excellent price (in Europe) for those specs and definitely worth the trade if you don't mind the lack of an iGPU. For comparison, the
The loq 16 60wh battery is upgradable to 80wh right? Its the best option in my price range with qhd 165hz no other 4060 laptop has that here but im just worried about if i will be able to upgrade the battery and if the speakers will sound bad
You know that it's pretty hard to get an genuine original battery and if you do manage to get one, it will cost you around 100$ right 😂. And also neither the Legion 5 has good speakers because from 2021 model and upward they decided to use Nahimic instead of Harman Kardon
Buy this if you want raw performance in future too 3050 or 4050 will need All upscaling dlss and things this one won't swet much for high 1080P Raw performance even in future
It really depends how much idle battery life matters to you. One thing this may affect is the legal status of the laptop, as some US states have regulations on idle power consumption of laptops due to energy policy, and it's somewhat questionable if it would meet these demands with the GPU on.
I almost thought that this video is about intel raptor lake's issue when i saw the title and thumbnail. And speaking of which, did the raptor lake's degradation problem occur on laptop as well? Or it's only the desktop counterparts?
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Can it charge via usb c?
@@SulphuridAcid-H2SO4 Depends on the price, it's an ok CPU, but yeah Zen 3+ is 2 generations old now, but as we saw in this video CPU matters less at 1440p.
@@daniels5607 Yes, the one on the right side charges it.
@@JarrodsTech Can you please also mention Ryzen 5 5500H and Ryzen 5 7235HS (no review needed) in description or something to create further awareness? Thanks.
- Ryzen 5 5500H is lower version (4C/8T, 8MB L3, 6 CU) of Ryzen 5 5600H (6C/12T, 16MB L3, 7 CU) same boost, available in super cheap gaming laptop and quite popular (at least in my country)... meanwhile similar name Ryzen 5 5500U (Zen 2) and desktop Ryzen 5 5500 have 6C/12T.
- Ryzen 5 7235HS is even worse (4C/8T, 8MB L3, 4.2 GHz boost slower than Ryzen 3 7335U, iGPU disabled) vs Ryzen 5 7535HS (6C/12T, 16MB L3, 4.55 GHz, 6 CU RDNA2 1.9 GHz), not sure about laptop availability but I'm sure it soon will.
“Teaching sand how to think”. Noice.
⌛🧠
a couple of 100ft extension cords can address the battery performance issue *UNLESS* you absolutely must game naked deep in the forest.
The real answer.
that's what a generator is for...
@@AyaWettssolar panels and batteries, get with the times.
You are getting 4050/4060 at the price of 3050 by sacrificing 30 minute battery life. 😂 Why should we complain?
Ikr, Its good for Its price
you forgot the part it has to be plugged in most of the time
@@amelia20fe so does everything gaming laptop ever. No one plays games on the battery.
@@galahad5688 then one rather get a desktop lol
laptop, no matter gaming or office, should be able to be portable with little to worry about battery life
Gaming laptops are basically always meant to be plugged in if you're actually planning to do any gaming on it@@amelia20fe
one thing i didnt expect to see: Jarrod NOT recommending a Lenovo laptop 🤣
Haha well I do recommend it as long as you don't care about battery life, but that's not a whole lot of people I think 😅
Title "avoid this cpu"
Entire review "everything is fine with it and it can keep up with higher tiers of cpu. Just that battery life is bad"
Who the hell even comes up with these stupid titles ?
well its jarrod tech what do you expect
youtubers obviously. they want you to click on the video. and it clearly worked.
This guy is a shill, lol. He just wants clicks, he doesnt care about providing actual information
@@iambluexd thats facts
The battery life is bad because the CPU lacks integrated graphics. That's why you avoid it. Apparently everyone in this comment thread didn't bother to watch the video.
"Turns out teaching sand how to think is a trickey process". Best tech quote I've heard. Well done!
I ordered this laptop with same specs but with more ssd. The reason I don’t care is because I wont be existing where there are no power outlets. Yes it is nice to have more battery life, but those laptops that given considerable battery life (and have higher screen resolutions) cost several hundred dollars more. I want to use it at several places, but I have power outlets and external monitors there.
So I have to critique your title as too click baity.
My heart skipped a beat with that title. Thought it's going to be my laptop CPU😂😂😂
oof
Mine too
time to buy a new heavy metal shirt Jarrod
This one is relatively new for me, only wore it like 5 times lol, just how it is, a bit faded
@@JarrodsTech looks like you accidentally bleached it lol.
Metal shirts look better when they get older, it shows you're a long time fan!
For anyone who was thinking to buy but after this video is reluctant let me assist you all.. this is best laptop for gaming at this price point if your budget is higher then no question you can have whichever you want but for the price normally a gamer would not game unplugged and still it gives 3 hour battery life at 60 whr battery ...and similar graphics with intell 12450h also last the same on battery despite having igpu so chill and i have used this laptop the thermals are actually really good cpu usage never go above 60 percent and gpu temp always below 70 degrees so for long term its a good point to consider.
Absolutely agree with you. I have been using it for 3 weeks now and I am surpised with gaming performance but also on how quiet and smooth it is when on balanced mode. We should always compare apples to apples: this is a budget gaming laptop not a pro and in its price range there are barely one or two alternatives to compare with.
This Laptop is not going to Valhalla.
rip
What does this mean?
@@victor.novorski only best Viking warriors and kings went to Valhalla, and this laptop cpu ain't it
@@PolecanePC Oh, I see
If it dies fighting, it does.
I honestly never use my laptop when not plugged in. And my battery life sucks anyway because the monitor can't change from 165 Hz xD
7435HS may be for you then 😎
Yeah and sometimes there are issues with laptops running on the igpu when plugged in, even when you change it in Windows
You can change the refresh rate yourself with CRU
@omercy8989 look into solid state batteries ... It's new tech that should be coming soon.
There's pretty much no difference between 60 and 165 Hz in terms of power draw.
The only criticism seems to be battery life which at 2:10 is shown to be approx 3.5 hours. it is then not contrasted with an IGP LOQ 7735 4060 model but with LOQ's running different CPU/GPU's that get 20% longer battery life. Do they have the same battery mah? How does battery compare when actually gaming? Not sure the title conclusion chimes with the otherwise great review. My summary would be "Bargain budget gaming laptop (20% less battery when non-gaming)". I've seen people claming 6+ hours by turning everything down on similar non IGP setups? Interested to see a re-review focusing solely on battery life of the 7435 chips with "tips and tweaks for battery eeks" as it's low price makes it highly relevant in the budget gaming arena. It would also be handy if the charts showed the release price for each laptop to check we're not comparing apples with oranges.
Bro, should I buy this one?
@@nightbot4954You could get 20% off in July so about £650 (inc VAT!) with no o/s, 1tb, 24gb, RTX4060. Now more like £760. The most similar model WITH IGP I now see is closer to £1000. So it's a misleading conclusion when we get no comparison to a very similar model with IGP re price, battery etc. In July the review should have concluded "Best budget laptop in history (for the price) - Buy now", though it WAS on their deals page. Anyone in the market for a low budget gaming pc, with any knowledge snapped it up on sight.
@@nightbot4954 I replied at length but over zealous RUclips censor bot deleted it afaik. Forgot to clipboard it, not retyping. Terrible platform to discuss
@@nightbot4954 replied getting deleted by yt, I tried
Most of the motherboard issues are actually found with those with Intel processors, you're safe to go with the Amd Ryzen processors.
But no igpu, right?
@@rithik8674 and 7435 Hs doesn't have igpu rest has igpu
I'll study 1 hour for 1 like
Here you go😉
Bruh
i gave you a dislike so you fail collage.
You need likes to study 😂😂😂😂
Don't you wanna succeed in life
@@haseebkhawaja1050 Not like that. Not at all😂
True what Jarrod said. I just bought this laptop (infact I watched this video on it) and while the gaming performance is expected from 4060, the battery life is pretty bad. To workaround it, I always use battery saver mode when i'm using for office works which can last me for 4 - 6 hour and that is enough for me. I don't think there's any reason to ever play games without it plugged on a laptop IMO.
Yeah I agree, gaming on battery is a bad idea in most cases.
I have a laptop i9 from a few years ago, the integrated graphics failed and was creating crazy glitches, lucky I figured out the problem and use the laptop permanently on discrete graphics without any problems.
Didn't know those failed
@@trip_t2122 I can only assume it's the chip because 2 years of software updates hasn't fixed it
@@KurtisPape Integrated graphics would be one of the last things I'd expect to fail on my laptop. But I guess everything can fail.
Why is it called Ryzen 7, when the 4 stands for Ryzen 4, and the 3 is Zen 3 which was back from the 5000 series ??
Yeah I'm not sure, when I bought it I thought it was Ryzen 5 because it's a lower number than the 7535HS, but that's not the case.
By their own "Ryzen 7000" mobile naming graph the 7435HS should be a Ryzen 3 even though no H or HS Ryzen CPU is a Ryzen 3
It being a 16 thread chip that has a model name below the 12 thread 7535HS doesn't help either
Don't get me started on the "Ryzen 5 *7235HS* "
I just bought this laptop two days ago I swear to god, pleaseeeee be fine
it is minus battery life.
Depends if you're ok with the compromise, performance is still as expected though!
I bought it yesterday…
@@JarrodsTech i love you
@@HeartsOfMold you like gaming?
What about Intel 13 and 14 gen problem, why there is no video from you specialy if laptops are also affected
Don't know much about computers, but after watching your videos extensively I just bought a Lenovo Loq 15 with Ryzen 7 PRO 7840HS CPU and RTX 4060, hope its a good computer and I can play ETS2 and ATS on ultra graphics :) keep up the good work man & congrats on 700k!
Nice, that's a good CPU and GPU combo 💪 and thanks! 300K to go for the gold 😅
Ets2 and ats are incredible games, nice to meet you fellow trucker
@@shrishpotdar343what's the full form of those games
Can it run solitaire?
@@N.K.--- Euro Truck Simulator 2, American Truck Simulator
M using this laptop, and so far i dont miss the igpu. with some gpu undervolting, and power saving mode, i can do intensive work for 2 hours, and less intensive work for 3.5 hours... If you play games, this is beast and temprature is also very very low due to lack of igpu cpu runs cooler. backup is still more than my previous nitro 5 with 5600h. display is amazing and gsync & 100%srgb really makes a difference. i dont notice any ghosting or motion blur while playing games.. You can just buy a 65w or 100w charger and charge it anywhere via type c if concerned about battery life.
i have the same laptop, got the 170 w charger. Are you suggesting a 65w charger because the 170w is heavier or is it for some other reason.
Glad to see comment about the temp. I was considering buying this laptop, didnt care about battery life but was worried about the temp when playing games
@@AlphaNOVA69 no he's suggesting the 65 or 100w pd charger its portable so you can carry it anywhere if concern about battery life
Buddy it would be helpful if you share undervolting
What a misleadung title. I have this exact laptop and its price/performance is amazing. Perfect for 1080p gaming and work and battery life dont matter everyone plays with laptop plugged in. Actually it can even play most games on 1440p monitor.
Bro's coping, why would you even buy a laptop if you dobn't care about battery life. Just build a PC instead dude, you'll get much better performance for much less money. Cope harder.
@@sagittariusa581 what is your comment even about? Is it insulting me or are you just having a bad day and venting on me?
@sagittariusa581 u tripping. I'm looking for one and I don't care at all about battery life. My previous laptop didnt even had a battery lol. Who in this world run laptop on the battery?
what about ryzen 7 8845hs with rtx 4060 for £999? rate it out of 10 in terms of performance wise
Whats your thought on lenovo loq ryzen 7 8845hs rtx 4060 ?
Might as well save money on the 7840HS if it's available for less money, almost the same thing in terms of performance shown in this video with the Legions.
who the fuck gaming on their laptop unplugged??? 😭😭
While the intel 13+14 Gens problems even reached the mobile cpus, I would recommend better avoiding them as well 😂😅
That's pretty close... My HP Victus 15 uses AMD Ryzen 5 7535HS which *have* AMD Radeon integrated graphics.
I should have talked more about the naming scheme, because this is a perfect point - the 7535HS has fewer cores and threads, so it's actually a lower tier part as far as raw CPU performance goes, but it has an iGPU and has a higher number than the 7435HS, so people may just assume it's better in every way.
4 months ago i bought a lenovo ideapad gaming 3 laptop that has the same CPU as your HP victus 15
Can you send the link to where you bought your lenovo pls@@Pokeymeister80
@@JarrodsTech so buy which cpu ? any recommendations ?
@@rnegoro17840HS is pretty good
"Teaching sand how to think" is my personal quote of the year. Love it
Hey Jarod! Do you know a good power bank or alternative to charge a gaming laptop when traveling? As you know, gaming laptop batteries are quite quick to run out. How do you deal with this?
Glad you mentioned it, because I was sick of explaining it to other people shouting: “Look at the price!”.
I already informed my audience a few days ago that I would not post any offer of a laptop with Ryzen 5 7235HS + Ryzen 7 7435HS processors.
What about the 7235HS?
What should I buy for laptop ryzen 5 7235hs or ryzen 7 7435 hs
@@skelebro9999 same, lack of iGPU.
@@iniyangr2811 none with these processors.
@@LaptopDealsEU oof
The integrated graphics on my asus tuf a16 with 7735hs and 7600s don't even work, so I guess I've been having the 7435hs experience for a while now.
Why not?
@@JarrodsTechI get extreme screen flickering when the system tries to use it. So I had to disable the igpu in bios. Also Asus software is not good. Its completely stable in games and performs well, just when using web browsers or some other apps with hardware acceleration does the problem appear. Can't wait for strix halo apu.
Hope you can understand what I'm trying to say here
My main PC has a Ryzen 7 7840HS CPU and it's a beast lmao, it's a mini PC, it's surprising to see that some AMD CPUs aren't that great, my 7840Hs is so powerful(for a mobile CPU).
Yeah the 7840HS is a nice one 👌
@@JarrodsTech i have 7840 still i am facing issue while running games
Its not that some cpus arent great, its just that the video has no legit point whatsoever and its completely trash It like arguing that 13900kf is bad compared to 13900k only because lacking almost useless graphics. Any of these 7000 series arent great anyways but for totally different reason and that is that they have only 16mb l3 cache and so are worse than deskt0p 5000 series.
@@filippetrovic845 he said its bad for people who use the laptop on battery, if you don't then you are not targeted , and it's good for you
actually its bad, since there are other laptops with a 7840hs with better cpu performance and an igpu and for cheaper, so why would you get the worse cpu anyway
My framework 16 has a 7840hs, absolutely amazing cpu.
I saw this video yesterday and I still bought this exact model today 😊 I'm gonna be plugged in all the time anyway and $799 for a 4060 Laptop is pretty epic. I was gonna get a 4050 model until I saw this price. Great video with good information!
Holy cheese. I just dodged this one by buying 2023 model with 7840hs + 4060 which is at the same price ($900).
Yeah definitely makes sense to get a Zen 4 with iGPU if you can for similar price, even a little more
That model doesn't have 100% sRGB right?
@@ArarionYes
This is just a desperate attempt from AMD to compete on the low-price segment with Intel. Pretty pointless if you ask me. I bet this will be discontinued within 6 months.
@@Ararion The 2023 models with qhd screens do have 100 percent sRGB. The one which Jarrod got also had that but yes most 2023 loqs don't which is why I personally went for acer nitro 16
Step 1 download afterburner
step 2 lock the clock at a non boost clock speed.
step 3 undervolt until you reach the same power consumption of the iGPU while doing everyday tasks (7-15w)
step 4 save the profile
so, when you are doing document your 4060 will act at half speed like a normal igpu. When you game, switch the profile and enjoy your powerful external GPU.
Problem solved.
the 4060 is officialy stated to run at a minimum of 35w. and undervolt that extreme will never work. plus 99% of users wont even know what you are talking about if you tell them about this, it is extrememly predatory for the masses
@@davitdavid7165 it's minimum 35w when 100% of use. Not 35w when idle state.
So if you lock the clock and do a massive undevolt you'll probably don't get the 3w power like an iGpu but you can have a massive uplift in battery life while being able to do all the normal tasks.
Ps: windows and Informatics need skills.
It's a choice to be an informed consumer or not
Are you sure this works? Can you make a video?
@jarrodstech
Luckily it's doesn't solve the issues, while using igpu only, on idle battery life still sucks. There's an issue on motherboard, some part draw more power, causing overheat and later motherboard getting fried. It's on every LOQ 15xx model, my local lenovo repair center already confirmed there's a lot of cases like this
Can we refund a lenovo laptop even if it hasn't had any problem yet? I had the LOQ 15IRX9 with i5-13450hx 3050 one, its been 2 months since i bought it online but i havent had any issue other than the battery drop. (I'm scared of the motherboard issue thats happening nowadays)😢
Surprised it actually last for 2 months but hopefully those issue will not heppen for all LOQ user 😔
Now question, how often you running ur laptop on the battery?
Dude can u confirm if the intel chip high failure rate thingy for PC effect mobile processors as well?
I cannot, I don't have any information other than what has been reported in the news recently - which is a mixture of things, Intel apparently saying the issues don't affect mobile, but then some different problem, we will have to wait and see.
Nice video! I was waiting for this!
On the upside... not need for mux
This is also why im thinking about getting a pre owned laptop off ebay instead of official retailers. Models in AU just suck
Yeah true
i got a 12700h cpu and rtx 3070 ti full power helios 300 for $900 on that site with 2 year warranty acer refurbished.
@@Joker-no1fz I saw that. Acer official got some made deals. Saw a helios neo 16 with a 4060 for like $1300 aud
It's a shame au gets the short stick when it comes to technology. Before samsung s24 all previous models were exynos which sucked. Internet speeds aren't great and now laptop cpu just aren't good
@@shikikanaz4624 i love their deals. i put 32 gig of ram in it and a 2 tb ssd great deal for a laptop. jarrod gave it a great review too.
In India🇮🇳,
Dell G15 Ryzen 7 7840HS 16GB DDR5 165Hz 512Gb
is INR 1,08,890/- which is USD 1300.61$
and
Lenovo LOQ R7 7435HS 24GB DDR5 144Hz 512Gb
is INR 86,990/- which is USD 1039.07$
I should probably go with the LOQ😅
Will you review Ryzen AI 9 vs Intel Core Ultra?
Maybe, depends what laptops we're able to get.
Very true and thanks for bringing this to our notice
jarrod the dead mobos are going cryze in intel versions. I bought mine in turkey and it is dead within 15 days
Are they though? Like, are you just one out of 5-10 vocal people? How many are there? I'm sure from your perspective it seems bad, you have to deal with it, I just can't get an idea of how widespread it actually is myself and it's hard to get any useful info from Lenovo.
Cpu is old but as long as it does not bottleneck the 4060, I see no problem with this laptop.. this is the cheapest 4060 laptop as well.. like way way cheaper..
I have LOQ with 7840HS + RTX 4050 and 7435HS + RTX 4060 at same price
I do CPU-Heavy tasks And play GPU intensive games when free
I am inclined towards more 7840HS + RTX 4050
But the 7435HS + RTX 4060 is steal deal and I can't find 4060 cheaper than that
What should I do ?
In my country, india, the LOQ mother board issue, and the battery drain issue have spread like plague.. most of the LOQ users in my country suffered from this problem..
Why would AMD even do this to a laptop? Damn this sucks! They should give us a 200 Wh battery to make up for the lack of integrated graphics.
its not legal on a plane so they wont.
I guess because it's better than wasting the chips, might as well try use them for something. The only issue I have with it is unless you know what a 7435HS is, you'd probably just buy it without knowing the limit of no iGPU.
AMD has been lying since the release of zen on laptops. And they do it because people buy these devices and continue to do so while defending AMD.
@@JarrodsTech Wait, don't you also have a problem of AMD selling a 2 gen old chip under the ryzen 7000 naming? Thats a pretty big problem.
AMD has nothing to do with the laptop design and manufacturing. In this case, Lenovo ordered and assembled the parts.
integrated graphics is important, my legion with silent mode + 60hz has 7++ hours battery life compared with discrete graphic only 3hours battery life
Cool, it's the exact same specs as mine, R7 7434HS & RTX4060
How are you finding the battery life?
@@JarrodsTech Pathetic, to say the least 😭
@@JarrodsTech4-5 hours tested for the A15
Hi want to ask is it worth it to buy for studying and playing some triple a game my courses have some basic graphics and design is it worth it first time buying laptop
I thought this was a thing on intels new meme, where nothing you can do, just wait for the patch in august and hope your thing doesn't crash. either way, it doesn't affect me, my old busted laptop has one purpose and it's to feed my factorio addiction.
Yeah I was wondering if it might get confused with that, I'll think about a new title and maybe add in the "7435HS" somewhere.
I wonder if that patch will go out for laptop cpu's since they said they aren't affected... at least that's kinda good news something is being done and addressed and may totally fix it instead of everything being up in the air with nothing said lol.
@@WaterspoutsOfTheDeeplaptops definitely are affected especially loqs with 13th and 14th gen hx processors. Check-out loq subreddit
So Can i go for this loq or dell g15 please reply, They are currently available for the same price. And as mentioned in the video the loq's battery life is bad but the same goes for dell g15 even with integrated graphics, So which one should I get.
This one is better as it has 8gb more rams than dell g15
People don't by gaming laptop battery life and if you enable the Nvidia battery saving features then you will get very similar to an integrated vpu from Intel
Hey I just bought this laptop, what features are you talking about, would you care to explain?
@@AlphaNOVA69 well, I did post this about a month I go, I'm pretty sure it was about a laptop and it's battery life and if that's what you're talking about, then you can go and looking at video app and you can change the battery life settings and then you can actually get half decent battery life from your gaming laptop. My comment though not very well worth. It was supposed to say that gamey laptops are not designed as office computers. You're obviously not going to get the best backs your life out of them. And I am guilty of that.. I just spent three and a half thousand pounds on the laptop with two hours. Battery life and well it's my own fault, really? Because I'm using it for letters and work are for its entangled purpose, which was gaming. You can get better life out of the gaming laptop. You just have to be a bit more clever about it. You have to change the CPU settings to throttle it to like five percent when on battery and you have to do the same with your graphics card in the settings menus of the Nvidia app. It's not a gnarkey comment I was serious don't buy gaming laptops for works. I made that mistake. You're not going to get amazing. The battery life out of it. And well, that's just the way they are. And that's what annoyed me about the video.
Great in-depth review!
who cares battery life .. we are getting 4050... after all its a gaming lap top .. i bought it for my self
Yeah obviously who the hell uses a gaming laptop for battery backup. Gaming laptops are meant to be used while plugged in
@@gamingwarrior3108 exactly
is this laptop good for 3d Modeling and Rendering?@@gamingwarrior3108
@@IstoryahanKita Should work well enough.
Hoping I'm not commenting too late for you to see, but I am currently stuck between an ASUS TUF A15 2021 vs 2023 model. The former only has a 48 Wh battery which would mean low battery life, and the 2023 model comes with a 90 Wh battery, but includes the Ryzen 7 7435HS. For me, the longevity of my laptop comes ahead of performance, so I'm stuck wondering which one would have a longer battery life, and which one is more likely to last longer in general. I would appreciate it immensely if I could get an answer.
If you're buying a gaming laptop, it doesn't really matter if it has an igpu or not, because these laptops typically offer a maximum of 3 to 4 hours of battery life. gaming laptops are meant to be used while plugged in
@@gamingwarrior3108 tbf though a good gaming laptop nowadays can get up to like 6+ hours of battery life (ie; laptops with higher tier Ryzen chips), yes you usually plugged it in for gaming but some people also used their gaming laptop for their workflow and such
Which Loq model has the best laptop except the 2050 gpu variant?
You paid 1500$ for it, rip wallet
Yeah :( the things I do to make videos lol
What about the variants with i5 12/13gen hx ? I really want to buy this laptop but im scared that the motherboard will break and the battery will drian very fast 😢
I bought the one with R7 8845HS
Sorry mate but I think on this occasion, you're DEAD WRONG!!
I've used all my gaming laptops almost exclusively for gaming whilst plugged into a wall socket. I have zero use for an iGPU. If I want to look at the internet or watch The Boys, I'll do it either on my phone or the TV.
And this LOQ 15 has one humongous advantage over other gaming laptops...its price! I paid £700 ($US 900) for mine which is already cheap. Had I waited another 4 weeks, I could have picked it up for £622 ($US 800).
I don't care if I'm in a minority of one but I absolutely applaud Lenovo & AMD for bringing this ultra cheap but very capable gaming laptop to the market. I predict it will sell like hot cakes despite your 'avoid' recommendation.
Hi there. I owe this one too and I am surprised by its performance and value. I am also surprised by the torrent of negative feedback this machine attracts by "experts"! Anyway. Today I came across an offer in my local market with a victus model carrying 7840hs and rtx 4070 for the same money I paid for the loq. I was initially disappointed thinking I rushed into buying the loq but doing some research I found out that same games perform better in my (our) machine than in the victus with better specs. For example plaguentale requiem reaches 95 fps on youtube videos with the victus 4070 whereas i get 115fps easily, same settings. My idea? I would appreciate your opinion on this. Ty
@@loukasbalomenos2600 I am really surprised you can get that particular HP Victus for the same money. That model isn't available in the UK but I found it in France for the eye watering price of €2,850 ($US 3,100)! Here you can get the Victus with a 4060 for £899 but that comes with a crappy i5-12500H & a 250 nit screen...and that's STILL £200 more than I paid for my LOQ.
Under normal circumstances, I'd say if you can get a 4070 Victus for $US 900, then go for it but TBH, it sounds way too good to be true. The lower FPS says to me they mean the 4050 & the 4070 is a typo!
I have this processor in my LOQ, it also has RTX 4050 with 6gb vram and 24gb ram. Works just fine for my usage wich is playing World of Warcraft usually plugged to external monitor or plugged to a power outlet while traveling longer periods of time.
Still better battery life then laptop with 7845HX/7945HX
Haha yeah that's something
@@JarrodsTech I have one and it's awful in this regard 😂 Idle power consumption of the SoC itself is not less then 20-30 watts
1:59 still beats a handful of other laptops with iGPUs lol regarding battery life.
RIP Acer Helios Neo 16
@@JarrodsTechAnd scar 17.
@@unionofslavstanrepublics2317 its a moot point anyways, desktop replacement have never seen battery life as a crucial department, rather the mobile workstation needs
Surprised at the battery life. Thought it would last less than 2 hours
This review is pretty noob.... you are bitching about a great machine for not being a fkn bugati😂
The title does not have a QUESTION MARK (?). This means Jarrod really means it when he says "avoid it". :O
Haha, I well given the outcome maybe question mark should be added
I am one of those here who have actually bought it. I made a conscious choice of sacrificing battery life for performance being on a tight budget. The title of the video is a bit of a let-down for us owners, but you actually point some of its merits through your review. My experience with the machine confirms your data. So I think a fair presentation would be to place the product in a "value for money" context. At least in Greece I couldn't find a more attractive option (including 3 years warantee and xbox ultimate pass for 3 months!) But yes, potential buyers should be warned about the limitations in autonomy.
Καλησπέρα πατριώτη ποιο μοντέλο πήρες αν μπορείς να μου πεις και από πού και αν είσαι ευχαριστημένος γιατί και εγώ σκέφτομαι να αγοράσω τώρα λάπτοπ και βλέπω το loq και το asus Tuf A15
@@Raikou1914Καλησπέρα φίλε μου. Αγόρασα ακριβώς αυτό που παρουσιάζει ο Jarrod εδώ, δηλαδή amd 7435hs με κάρτα 4060. Εάν το θέλεις για gaming σκίζει, τρέχει τα πάντα ακόμα και σε ultra settings αλλά ξεχνάς το τροφοδοτικό στην πρίζα. Σε μπαταρία δεν βγάζει ούτε 30 λεπτά gaming. Για σερφαρισμα κλπ με το ζορι 3 ωρες. Ο λόγος είναι ότι ο amd που φοράει δεν έχει κάρτα γραφικών οπότε όλα περνάνε από την nvidia η οποια βεβαια ρουφαει ρευμα. Άλλο προβληματάκι είναι τα ηχεία. Θα αποδώσουν μόνο όταν έχεις ανοιχτή μια app που συνοδεύει το laptop αλλά και πάλι έχω ακούσει πολύ καλύτερα. Για τα λεφτά του είμαι super ικανοποιημένος γνωριζοντας όμως ότι ουσιαστικά ειναι deskrop replacement. Έχει βγάλει όντως και η asus ένα tuf με τα ίδια specs οπότε διαλέγεις αυτό που σου ταιριάζει αισθητικά. Πάντως για τα loq του 2024 ακούστηκαν πολλά για καμμενα motherboards (ειδικά όσα φοράνε intel) . Εάν θέλεις καλύτερη αυτονομία μπαταρίας και λίγο καλύτερα specs υπάρχει στη loq σειρά νέος επεξεργαστής amd 8 με integrated graphics , όπου να' ναι θα βγει και Ελλάδα. Εμένα με ένοιαζε μόνο το θέμα τιμής και από αυτήν την άποψη είναι super. Τώρα έπαιζα plague tale και πιάνει χαλαρά 110 fps με ultra graphics. Οθόνη OK όχι κατι τρομερό αλλά ούτε χάλια. Ελπίζω να βοήθησα!
Μοντέλο loq 15 arp9 15" amd ryzen 7435 hs rtx 4060 , παίζει σε όλα τα καταστήματα αλυσίδες στα 999. Δεν μπορούσα να βρω καλύτερη τιμή για 4060 αλλά ήξερα ότι δεν θα βγάζει πολλή ώρα εκτός ρεύματος.
Εγώ ήμουν ανάμεσα στο lenovo loq 16 με ryzen 7 7840 που έχει μέσα ενσωματωμένα γραφικα (ryzen 7000) και την gtx 4050 με 16gb ram που σκέφτομαι να την επεκτείνω και το asus tuf A15 με τα ίδια χαρακτηριστικά με μόνη διαφορά τον επεξεργαστή τον ryzen 7 7735 όπου έχει και αυτός τα ίδια ενσωματωμένα γραφικά το λενοβο το βρήκα στα 900€ από το e-lenovo που δεν έρχεται με λειτουργικό (θα το εγκαταστήσω εγώ) και το asus στα 990€ που υπάρχει σε πολλά καταστήματα τώρα με απάντησε και ο jarrod όπου μου είπε να πάω στο lenovo loq και εγώ εκεί με βλέπω και λόγο οθονης 16 inches και παρόμοιων χαρακτηριστικών πιστεύεις είναι καλή αγορά; Το λάπτοπ το χρειάζομαι γιατί τον άλλο μήνα μπαίνω στο καράβι (μηχανικός εμπορικού ναυτικού) και το θέλω όσο μπορώ για τον ελεύθερο χρόνο για καμιά ταινία και κάνα παιχνίδι σε ευχαριστώ πολύ που μου απάντησες περιμένω την γνώμη σου να σε καλά
Κι εγώ το loq θα διάλεγα. Θεωρώ ότι απο performance θα είναι στα ίδια ακριβώς επίπεδα + ότι το laptop που σκέφτεται έχει δοκιμαστεί στην αγορά και δεν έχουν ακουστεί προβλήματα! Στη τιμή αυτή μην το πολυσκέφτεσαι. Καλό μπάρκο!
Im not getting it for gaming for all the time so is it gonna be good pairing it with a radeon 7600s asus tuf A16 laptop ?
I’m more concerned with performance than battery life.
7-8845HS RTX4050 vs RYZEN 7-7435HS RTX4060
at almost the same price which one is better for gaming?
Same lol, i was confused
But other suggest to take rtx 4060 instead
Here in the UK it was about £200 cheaper than the Ryzen 7 8845HS version last week and cheaper than the Intel ARC version, so ordered it for £645 with RTX 4060 and 1TB drive. There doesn't seem to be anything close in price here with an RTX 4060 and although the screen isn't that bright at least the sRGB coverage is decent, better than the some of the other lower budget systems. For this price I think the lack of iGPU compromise is fine, although worth warning people about it.
for me the lack of iGPU is a plus, one less thing to disable, since i always check if a laptop has a mux switch or no iGPU before i settle on buying it.
Why mux is important?@@alastairgreen_Nexus
@@arvindsingh2168 So that i can disable the iGPU during gaming, editing or any GPU intensive tasks also i detest Optimus since it was launched. YMMV as always and for me when buying gaming laptops having MUX switch or no IGPU the better. Gaming laptops in my opinion should not have Optimus
I was gonna buy the Asus A15 with ryzen 5 7435HS and rtx 3050.should I buy the one with ryzen 5 7535HS. They’re about the same price.
Hmm, the 7535HS has a higher number but it's actually a weaker performing part with 6 cores / 12 threads - BUT it has integrated graphics, so better battery life - depends which of those is your priority.
i have it for about 2 months , super nice laptop, low temps great performance !Before that i had an hp victus with ryzen 5 5600h and gtx 1650 and for some reason the loq lasts longer unplugged ,in gaming it is certain that lasts longer and in youtube most likely !I do not know exactly why but it is 100 % true!Also it does play in the same settings and almost same fps plugged and unplugged which was not the case with the old one which did have integrated graphics! Cpu and gpu is super conservartive in power might be the reason.
I would go with a laptop like this but is there any difference in thermals/fan noise when compared to laptops with integrated graphics with or without a mux switch? Also is there any meaningful change in battery life with an AMD gpu?
I didn't bother with the full fan recording setup just basic thermals here, but I can't say I noticed or thought about it during testing, didn't seem any louder.
Is the problem the same with the version that has the Ryzen 5 7235HS?
btw , i got the HP Victus 16 , it's also very poor battery life , just 2 hours office work , 60% battery life gone . the LCD also very worst compare to other 45% NTSC panel .
Do you expect an improvement in the performance of 5000 GPU in the laptop? Should I buy now the Asus Rog G16 Intel i9 14900 hx RTX 4080?
Of course, but we won't see it until next year, and then decent prices and availability will be months after launch, so depends if you want to actually use something anytime soon. 4080 should still offer excellent performance for years.
so far we only have rumors and most of those are on the desktop side. I do like the g16, but would probably ait till then. When we know more about the gpu and vendors are clearing out space and lowering prices more it might be a smart buy
4080 was such a huge leap for laptop gaming it can play things so well and now with dlss and frame generation on top of it I wouldn't worry about missing out. It's almost like a 3090 desktop gpu in a laptop which is crazy and 8-12 months waiting for the new laptops is a really long time you could be gaming so up to you.
Hello! Which is better for the lenovo loq? Intel or ryzen?
ryzen
Is there any worry that the 4060's life could be lowered by being always in use?
Lemme second this, i wanna know too
I bought my Lenovo Legion with its Nvidia 2060 GPU in September 2020. I only ever used it for gaming whilst it was plugged into a wall socket, so for 99% of the time, the iGPU was redundant & the dGPU did all the heavy lifting. Over the passing years, that laptop saw A LOT of use...and 4 years later, it's still working perfectly. All this talk about laptops lacking an iGPU failing prematurely is a load of old twaddle!
However, whilst the Legion is as fast now as when I first bought it, it struggled to keep up with modern, AAA games, particularly The Last Of Us (brilliant game, buy it!). Which is why I recently bought myself a LOQ 15 with the 7435HS & the 4060...and honestly, for what I paid for it, it's brilliant!!
@@MrSensible2 Thank you! I'm considering the LOQ too.
@@MrSensible2thank you im buying it aswell!
In India it comes with 24GB (12GB x 2) DDR5 4800 MT/s Memory, would it worth be replacing it with DDR5 5600 MT/s, or will it downclock to 4800 MT/s?
No. The 7435HS is limited to 4800.
Good day. I would like to inquire about the integrated graphics capabilities of the Lenovo LOQ 15AHP9 laptop equipped with the AMD Ryzen™ 7 8845HS Processor. Kindly provide me with the relevant specifications and confirm if the device indeed features integrated graphics. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
It has integrated graphics, check the AMD product page if in doubt.
Saying hs version doesn't have igpu, so the battery backup is bad?
I mean a 70 or 80 wh battery would've fixed the battery issue
anything is better than intel i9-14900HX. That cpu is unstable AF. I needed to disable my optimus to prevent my G16 Rog Strix from Blue screening all the time. I don't really care about battery life tbh. I don't ever game without plugging the laptop in and the Battery is only important to get the needed time to properly turn the laptop off if the power grid goes out.
Great video. I am curious on your opinion on Ultra 185H as a viable gaming CPU or not? These benchmarks are hampered by Omen low wattage GPU so doesn;t give a good idea. Thank you
It's not my favorite, in RDR2 in particular it seems lower than 4060 with 4070, and that was in the Alienware m16 R2 and Zephyrus G16 (video coming soon).
@@JarrodsTech hardware canucks found out that the g16 has high run-to-tun variance due to software issues. was it still bad when running well?
@@davitdavid7165 I think we had a little but nothing noteworthy enough to mention in the video from memory.
I mean, the biggest problem here is nVidia GPU's and their awful power consumption on battery, I get it, no iGPU no excuses, but seriously, nVidia no excuses either.
Can you review the lenovo ideapad pro 5 soon?
why it's 24GB memory? not 32GB?
12gb RAM sticks are a thing now.
@@JarrodsTech thank you!
Try to review acer nitro v16 (8845hs 4060 )
Good news for those of us in Europe; this Lenovo LOQ is or was just on sale for around €900 (RTX 4060, 24 GB DDR5, 1TB SSD) which is an excellent price (in Europe) for those specs and definitely worth the trade if you don't mind the lack of an iGPU. For comparison, the
If it's significantly cheaper, then I wouldn't mind.
Who actually plays on battery?
Really who is gaming not plugged in?
The loq 16 60wh battery is upgradable to 80wh right? Its the best option in my price range with qhd 165hz no other 4060 laptop has that here but im just worried about if i will be able to upgrade the battery and if the speakers will sound bad
You know that it's pretty hard to get an genuine original battery and if you do manage to get one, it will cost you around 100$ right 😂. And also neither the Legion 5 has good speakers because from 2021 model and upward they decided to use Nahimic instead of Harman Kardon
Buy this if you want raw performance in future too 3050 or 4050 will need All upscaling dlss and things this one won't swet much for high 1080P Raw performance even in future
It really depends how much idle battery life matters to you. One thing this may affect is the legal status of the laptop, as some US states have regulations on idle power consumption of laptops due to energy policy, and it's somewhat questionable if it would meet these demands with the GPU on.
But how to know when buying there aint any integrated graphics? do I have to search up every single processor?
I almost thought that this video is about intel raptor lake's issue when i saw the title and thumbnail. And speaking of which, did the raptor lake's degradation problem occur on laptop as well? Or it's only the desktop counterparts?
Hey. My Lenovo loq died. i5 12450hx , rtx 4060. It worked only for 1 month before dying 😢
Hey, what do you think about lenovo loq 15ahp9 with r5 8645hs and rtx 4060? Does it worth buying?