Really good review. Particularly how you compared previous models. It's so important. No one else does this so I guess you're ahead of the game, so well done.
I did not know about this bag until you mentioned it in another review. I’m looking to step down, something not so bulky, not so heavy. Thanks, great job.
I’m thinking to buy the leather navigation, but i can see in your video that your navigation has a different design on the side pockets. Could you tell me why the leather navigation side pockets are different than the nylon one? Also I’m considering to buy the nomadic backpack for my travel to Japan. Which one do you think I should buy? The navigation leather or the nomadic? Thanks! Looking forward to hearing from you!!
Navigation nylon has that anti-abrasive material on the sides, and they have near-useless anchor points on them. Navigation leather side anchor points are much more robust. I still hardly consider them much benefiting the bag unless you plan to hook attachments to them (not necessary, the bag has plenty of utility as-is). When I make my Japan trip soon, I'll be taking the Nomadic, as it's an incredibly capable bag with lots of room, pockets, and is relatively slim. I could sum it up like this: daily life = navigation, travel = nomadic
I bought one of the bags that you purchased a year ago. How has the bag held up? Did you ever enjoy using it, and if you did - do you still want it? Also, is it a travel or everyday backpack, and how do you choose to use it? I am pretty excited about getting it - it is on the way as I bought it tonight - and I wanted to know about anyone else's experience. Thanks in advance if you have the time to respond.
@@iu1191 I love it! I've been using the bag almost everyday for both travel and as my daily pack! It's held up really well even when fully packed with heavy electronics. There are a few scuff marks from its frequent use but other than that it looks practically brand new.
@nothabksg Thanks so much for replying. I really love the Tumi pebbled leather. I have it in the Harrison Bates and love how that still looks amazing, so I have high hopes for the Navigation. I saw it and had to splurge to get it, but I think it will last a long time. I think I will be using it just as you describe because the size is perfect for throwing in some tech and going to a meeting or something like that. The Harrison will do what it is supposed to do and be the one I wear when I have something more formal to go to but still don't want to carry a briefcase. Can't wait for it to arrive now 😁 Thanks again and belated congrats on getting the bag. Oh ... One other thing ... Do you see many people with this backpack on your travels? I am a Tumi spotter when I am in the airport or commuting, but I don't really see this one all over the place. It is kind of rare out there. Is that your experience, or do you see it a lot? For clarity, I don't really care if other people are using it - I would have it even if everyone else also had one. I just don't see it much out there, and I was wondering if that was just because of my location .... or maybe it's just me, ☺.
Interesting. I have one of the "classic" Knox backpacks and didn't realize they'd done away with the d-rings and loops on the shoulder straps. Mine has them and I'm glad to see they're back. I haven't handled a Navigator yet, but I've been looking at them for all the improvements you mentioned. The new compartment layout with the laptop/tablet space narrower, and the other compartment more open is welcome. I always found the split between the two in the Knox usable, but both felt a bit cramped when not expanded. Not sure if the side pockets are taller - they look a little taller - but that would be nice since I make good use of those. Looks like lots of little tweaks over the Knox without changing the character. Helpful review. Thanks!
I got the Navigation in brown leather. I love it. I also got the mobile organizer than goes inside and attaches with the g-hooks, definitely a must have.
@@BioGeardo you tend to use the navigation more than the search? Great informative videos. I share the same sentiment with the rest in that you’re the only one really doing reviews on these packs. There is nothing on the logistics backpack.
@@ColorHoles yes I do, it covers my needs more since I carry a laptop and tablet, but not usually clothing. I had a logistics in my ownership used off eBay, but o hated it and resold it before doing a video. Falls over, laptop pocket isn’t gussetted, stuff like that made me hate it lol.
@@BioGear hahaha good to know about the logistics. I did check it out in store, and while I liked how it looked, the main compartment zipper kept getting caught on the fabric. The navigation looks like where I’m gonna be leaning! Thank you again for getting back to me and also posting these video reviews!
Which is smaller ? Navigation OR Search ? I think Search is overkill with my new 14" MBP Pro. Please advise...thanks in advance. HNY ❣️ BTW...will my iPad pro 11 inch can fit inside together with my MBP 14 pro as well ?
Thank you! It is in fact purple, which is nearly impossible to find. I've only ever found 2 kits being resold on Ebay in the last 5 years and bought them both lol.
Thanks for posting these review videos man. They're very helpful. Do you know the capacity of the bag (in liters)? I'm currently using the Incase Icon backpack and looking to upgrade to a more premium / professional-looking one.
I think tumi has started to change their models to often, fine that they had a special color or pattern for one season, but now they change what used to be their classical models every season and they do not have the models for years. Their classic Alpha wash bags has been like the best you can have, they have had almost the same design through Alpha 1, Alpha 2 and the Alpha 3 series, now they just removed them with a smaller and less functional washing bag. I am so glad I got one for Christmas last year before it sold out.
I agree, especially over the last 2 years, I have watched several new and interesting models of bags come and go missing completely ofter very little sale time. At least some bags have only small interations, but others just completely disappear
I totally agree - they seem to be operating a get em while they are hot sort of philosophy which is new. I heard that the average Tumi customer has 6-8 items of their so maybe they are banking on Tumi customers being collectors also. Collectiors would value the new styles. I myself have too many Tumi bags. How about you guys? Defacto Colectors or just the one bag?
@@iu1191 I think I have closer to 30 bags in my colletion. That consists of backpacks, slings, crossbodies, briefcases. I do buy and sell frequently though.
@@BioGear I am so scared that I am going to end up the same way haha. Just got some higgins slings - What the hell!! These slings are just amazing!! I keep saying I am going to sell one but I never seem to get round to it. Go figure hahaha!!
I was trying to decide between the Alpha Search and Alpha Navigation but the Search doesn’t seem to be available anymore on Tumi’s new website.. I thought it was a relatively new model.
Long time Tumi fan here. Exactly the video I needed. Thanks a lot for helping me decide between this and the Search! Did you ever end up purchasing any of the Tumi Plus accessories?
Thank you for this review. You have a very nice presentation style and voice. I enjoyed listening to your review. I liked that you touched on all the features. I am trying to decide if the changes and "improvements" in recent Tumi Bravo Backpack models would be a significant enough to warrant an upgrade from my Alpha Bravo Briefpack which is about a10 years old model, but still very serviceable. What is your thoughts on this? I saw a price of $525 for the bag you reviewed.
Great bag review - not enough Tumi actual reviews on youtube, so thanks for doing this. Love the bag. I have had the Kingsville Delux Briefpack (big brother to the Knox) from many years ago, and it is still going strong. I have never seen someone review how the bags are doing years in. Everyone says that Tmui bags last a long time, and I can atest that they do, but I have not found a youtuber that has done such a test or made such a comment. Maybe I need to do that, haha. Thanks for the review. I will keep looking ou for it - a lovely bag. In everyday use - do you actually notice a difference with your previous use of the Nathen or the Knox even? If so, I would be grateful to hear the main practical differences in use from your perspective. If you have the time, of course. Haha. Thanks.,
Kingsville deluxe was my first ever tumi bag. Most bags I buy stay in orestine condition due to how I treat and use my bags, but I've had a Larson and Nellis for nearly 3 years and they're still 9/10 condition. Also if you have a Knox, I think the Nathan and Navigator are good upgrades. But if you have a Nathan, I wouldn't bother :) the main difference is the Nathan and nav both hold more items, and have a superior front pocket. Knox is very slim and I find the front pocket unusable. Not a deal breaker but the new stuff is better.
@@BioGear Agreed on the differences. I keep thinking my Kningsville is too big then I use it again and I fall in love with it all over again. Tumi make great bags. The front pocket that came when the Nathan, Shepherd, etc came on the scene is much more useful and I am glad they have kept it. Might have to see the knox and get one of the new ones - gonna be a hard things to do though. Love the knox. Thanks for the reply. Much appreciated.
I have a Tumi Alpha Expandable briefcase that I bought in 2013. 9 years later, still going strong and not a single problem. In fact, the ballistic nylon still looks fresh and new. Compare that with an eBags backpack that I bought in 2017 and after ~1.5 years, it was looking tired and ragged. Hence why I'm looking into this Tumi backpack, based on my prior experiences.
@rxl77 Totally the Tumi experience. I hear this all the time and I am experiencing the same thing. Buy Tumi once. I got them for my wife too. The best experience I have had with bags. My job meant I traveled to 50 countries in about 10 years. They held up great and I still have the one that started it all. I bought it in May 2013. Wow. Funny thing - I got a Samsonite leather backpack (an emergency purchase, and it seemed like a good deal - I thought I would try something different and see what happened) and three weeks later it had a tear in one of the shoulder straps. They wouldn't replace it. My Tumi backpack could be sold today as barely used after it came around the world with me. I bought a Tumi Harrison Bates leather backpack - I love it so much. It is now my briefcase replacement. I absolutely love it. Today - it looks better than the day I bought it!
Thanks for the review! Very informative. I was debating whether to get the Search or Navigation, after this review, think I'll be getting the Navigation after all.
Great review! I've been using the Knox backpack for years. I really like the functionality and size, but I'm looking to upgrade because I was never in love with the styling, and the only one I could afford at the time was from an outlet, thus they made it have an ugly color scheme (green and bright orange). I definitely think the Nathan and Navigation look better, and I'd like to upgrade to one or the other. Putting aside pricing and finding a used Nathan that's legit, my biggest concern with Tumi backpacks involves their size/ bulkiness. I think most Tumi bags are targeted at older (and larger) men. I'm a relatively slim, 5'10 guy and I think most of their backpacks look *ridiculous* on me. To put it directly, I don't want a backpack that is deeper or wider than I am. The question: Do you know how deep/ tall/ wide these two are compared to the Knox, and also to each other? Thanks, and please keep making videos!
The Nathan and Knox are nearly identical in all dimensions , however the front pocket of the Nathan makes it a slight bit more deep (off the back). The Navigation is slightly taller, and can now more comfortably fit a MacBook pro 16, which the other two can't/shouldnt (barely). My opinion is that if you're happy with the Knox size, you aren't going to be unhappy with Nathan or nav. The other option is, depending on what your carrying, to check out the smaller bags like the Dynamic, Clinton, and Nottaway. All of which are smaller, so you'll have to gauge your carry load. I think the nav and nathan fit in a perfect size class though :) hope that helps!!
@@BioGear thank you so much! If I could somehow find one in that blue camo I’ll jump on it. Also love your choice of Kyogre and Glaceon to compliment the blue camo.
Enjoyed the review! I was in the Tumi store his past weekend and was asking about any new backpacks, and this is the first time I really wanted to see more, but they sold out immediately and didn't have any in the store. I found your review and it answered my questions. Strangely enough, the hidden pocket for my cell is a MASSIVE selling point. I'm always just throwing my cell in my backpack at security and wishing I had a better place for it. Which this has. I see your point about the accessories being a little bit of a gimmick, however, my current backpack has a compartment specifically designed for chargers, wires, accessories, etc., which I absolutely love. And apparently, the Tumi accessory that holds chargers and wires and "hangs" inside the backpack would replace the compartment that I currently have. So I would recommend trying that particular out. You may find you like it a lot. I intend too. Anyway, loved the review and your vibe. Well done.
Thank you for the excellent review. It would be really helpful if you were to show the interior main compartment of the navigation expanded. Perhaps you could insert it into your review? Interested to see how it compares with the same compartment in the Search. Which is roomier? When the main compartment of the navigation is expanded how does it carry? With a heavy load that load would be further from your back than is the case with the Nellis. Which bag works better expanded? I think the organised first compartment of the Nellis is superior to the arrangement In the navigation. Functionally I don’t believe that the Navigation is an improvement over the Nellis. However It is I think better looking. Would be interested to hear your view. Trying to decide between search and navigation. Lastly are the side pockets of the navigation more awkward to use with a water bottle? They look better but are narrower than those in the Nellis..
Comparing search and navigation, which one would you recommend for college and everyday carry? Also what’s the main difference between tumi regular nylon vs ballistic nylon? Thanks in advance
If you had to choose between Navigation and Logistics, which one would you choose? To me the roll-up top Logistics looks more stylish, but the Navigation looks simpler and more practical. Your thoughts?
I had a logistics for a short time, left a bad impression on me. It wouldn't stand up on its own, the flap wouldn't stay up, the laptop compartment isn't gusseted so it bulges into your back. Overall I was unimpressed, too expensive to like. The navigation is the opposite, it's really well designed and functional. To me the choice is clear, but that's simply my experience!
Superb & fantastic review. Love this bag. Have an alpha bravo academy briefcase. Planning to buy Navigation, but dilemma on which colour to choose, should go for Navy or Black ???
Great Review, I am planning to buy Tumi Navigation but debate between Leather and Nylon. Which one do you recommend, I will use for travel like one per month. thank you.
Fun story, so I actually sold the search because I didn't like that the nylons were kinda flimsy on this generation and ended up with some other bags like the nomadic. Tumis got that new Dynamic Stitch option out now and it fixed what I hated about the bags so I bought a search and navigation in that material lol. If I had to keep one, I'd keep the navigation because I like slimmer bags, and the expansion works well, but the search is truly a good backpack and I'm using the heck out of it lately. Plenty of space in it.
Thank you!! I am actually carrying my Nathan today, but was using my Navigation yesterday. They're both great, but if I could only keep one, I would probably keep the Nav since it has more room for my 16" macbook
Thanks!! Absolutely love dynamic stitch, it’s my favorite material by far that Tumi has done. Navigation should do well in rain, although I haven’t tested it
Thanks for the quick reply! If I may: (1) do you have any background on the Dynamic Stitch? Is it a limited edition or something? And (2) how do you see the Stitch against the rain?
@@pedroasmonaco water seems to repel very well on the material. I have only walked through the rain a few times briefly but was able to set the water drops off without the bag soaking it in. Dynamic stitch was a 6 month cycle which Tumi does limited. It’s not going to come back unless they do it again but different somehow
@@usaaussin86the laptop compartment can fit a MacBook Pro 16 easily, so any iPad will fit, but the tablet sleeve that’s in there too will fit up to an 11 inch iPad if you meant just the sleeve
@@usaaussin86 No prob, and the purple was an old Tumi Accident Kit thats virtually impossible to find! Got it off ebay years ago. Tumi isn't selling good colors anymore unfortunately, maybe one day they'll listen.
What is you personal preference between the Nathan vs the Navigation? I'd like an every day bag, not too bulky, just big enough to hold my lab top and a couple accessories?
They're roughly the same size. I do like the navigation more now, the laptop and main compartments make more sense. The size is great for daily use, I'm using mine today. Perfect size for laptop, tablet, and some extra junk.
@@MrPrashanth0417 the navigation is a well rounded daily backpack that can expand for more space. The nomadic is a larger bag that expands for even more space. If you don’t carry much more than a laptop, tablet, and a few items a day, the navigation is more convenient. If you carry lots of items with you or travel often, the nomadic offers more space and will likely pay off. Even so, the nomadic is an excellent daily bag but just takes up more space than navigation.
The purple is actually an older accent kit that tumi used to sell. Now days they're super rare, almost impossible to find. I hear tumi may bring back a ton of colors though!!!
I’m new to Tumi and noticed nav has been out for a year or so. Any idea for the next possible release for an update after nav based off knox > nathan time frame?
Being that Tumi has not put the main colors of navigation on sale, I would guess it will stick around for 1-2 more years. It’s a popular model and well designed so I don’t think it’s going out soon.
The color accents are part of an Accent Kit, and are only available for a limited time. I got purple from ebay, had to check regularly for almost a year before finding one! Heres a link to tumi's current kits: www.tumi.com/p/tumi-accents-kit-0103533L017/
What's your take on the olive green version of the Navigation backpack? Are the materials the same compared to the black or navy version. Found a real one for $210
Real is the most important factor, the fakes are trash. The green and red colorways use a parachute-like material and the bag has very little rigidity, so it caves in on itself like your average cheap bag. That's the reason I look for the better material variants, and the nylons like black and blue are fine. At $210 the green is tempting though, not gonna lie!
I have a Retreat tote in sand and it’s kinda floppy. I do like the material but I wouldn’t buy it to have a “solid” bag. Iron especially looks nice imo!!
@@BioGear 18? Wow! I've got a Tumi suitcase (although recently switched to a Rimowa), my aforementioned Tumi briefcase, and now the new Tumi Search. Can you post a video of all your Tumi backpacks? That would be fun to see.
If I could have only 1 tumi backpack and those were my options, I would probably go Search. I do prefer the smaller size of the Navigation, but I know that sometimes I need just a tad more room and I don't really like using the expansion zipper on the Nav, so the search would be a tad more useful, though it is larger and less streamlined (not much though, let's be real). They're both excellent, I may sell my Sheppard and replace it with a search.
@@BioGear I checked out both in the Tumi store. The Navigation seemed just a tad bit too small, both in capacity inside and the general look of it (looked a bit on the smaller side in the view from the mirror). I ended up with the Search bag instead, which I think is a perfect 1-bag solution for everyday life/work and travel backpack (in conjunction with a carry-on suitcase). I was hoping there was something a little larger than the Search, but then it might be a bit too large at that point. Search, it is!
@@BioGear By the way, I rolled into the Tumi store with my Alpha Bravo briefcase that I bought in 2013 and have essentially used non-stop for last 9 years, including countless business trips on trains, planes, and hotels. It's no joke that I say it's been through a lot and with all that, it's held up remarkably well. Not a single point of failure and get this, the the nylon of the briefcase looks just as good as the new Search backpack I picked up today. Contrast that, with another brand (ebags) slim professional backpack that I bought a few years back to try to save wear and tear on my shoulder and spine - within a year the nylon was looking pretty beat up and ragged. Went right back to my Tumi briefcase for the durability. Finally gave in on upgrading to a Tumi backpack. Yes, expensive but worth it if it lasts a decade or two. Which in case of my briefcase, I swear I could get another decade from it (just I can't handle the weight of it anymore).
@@irfanmalik1864 MacBooks fit great, an Alienware will be much too big. I’d stick to the slim 16” gaming laptops with this backpack. For large gaming laptops, I like the Lenovo armored gaming backpack
Hey! I think I found your black leather navigation on ebay? I was wondering if there was a reason you were selling it? I'm going back to school soon and am torn between the search and the navigation. Also I watched on your video on materials, do you see any reason other than scratches to not get the leather? I'm assuming it is still water proof? Basically the navigation would be perfect for school, but I travel and think that maybe it would be too small to travel with? And that makes me want to get the search, but day to day will it be too big? What are your thoughts having owned both?
So the Search has larger front and side pockets, and larger main compartment, but the Navigation can expand the main compartment as needed. I traveled to Alaska with my Navigation rather than the serach so I could keep it smaller or larger as needed and it did perfect. Unless you really want the larger bag, I tend to recommend the Navigation becasue how perfect of a daily bag it is. The leather is beautiful, and much more rigid than the Nylon, I just happened to love the quilted material more which is why I'm letting the leather go. I bet it'll be absolutely fine getting rained on, the leather and zippers are great. Hope that helps :)
Im curious about the durability between the all Leather Navigation vs Ballistic Nylon Navigation backpack? any thoughts on which would hold up the best?
I would expect the nylon with take abuse better. Leather tends to wear harder and require more conditioning and upkeep. Anything I plan to adventure more with, I get nylon
I've been using my Sheppard for 5ish years. Usually for quick overnight business travel as a one bag carry and a laptop bag carry on for intl flights. It still holds up like a tank but I feel the compartments and sleeves are a bit much and adds to weight. Is this Navigation a good slim down option? I only carry a laptop+power block, ANC headphone, a days change of clothes and a dopp kit.
@@andreg8620 the only time a retail bag moves to the outlets are when they’re end of season, so when any of the special fabric options leave stores, that’s when you start looking at outlets for them. I don’t usually see navigations at the outlet, I only saw that red and black one when they were getting rid of them
Great review! Does anyone know where I can find a Knox bag? I know they phased it out but any chance it's still being sold anywhere? I just love the size and profile of the classic Knox and seems like you just can't find it online.
🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 Tax question: are you going to be able to put the Tumi backpacks as a business expense? I haven't started my channels yet because I have difficulty learning about taxes.
I did, at my local Tumi store! The Search is a great upgrade over the Sheppard, I really like it. I chose the Navigator because it is the smaller option, and I have both Esports bags and a Sheppard already. Maybe in the future I will sell my Shepard and buy a Search, or get Tumi to let me review one somehow :D
You should check my latest video ‘Tumi leather or nylon’ I give my opinion on the fabric options. I actually prefer the limited Dynamic Stitch option because of its rigidity!
@@ricardofermin7116 doubt you’ll regret that decision. The navigation can expand when needed so you’re not missing much. One of my favorite bags and baseline for reviewing.
thoughts on the navigation with the ripstop parachute material, especially on the green coloreay one, bcs im thinking about gwtting one , please repond thankyou
When the red one was on sale I considered getting one, but as I messed with it in store, i saw it lacked structure, being floppy and sack-like. If you plan to carry clothing and misc in it frequently, I think it’s fine but if you want to carry just a laptop, be careful because it could topple over easy
@@BioGear yeah that is what im thinking too, the structure and about it holding its shape, donit being sack like make it seem like its cheaper and is the material good quality or not, is it scratch prone,and one more, is it heavier or lighter than the regular ballistic nylon
@@calvinvincentius9184 I don’t mind the material but it’s not what Tumi is known for, it’s just kind of limited. I think it will hold up really well over time, seems like a good material for handling abuse
I really like the navigation. The wider opening main compartment, and slim laptop compartment are how I prefer them. Overall I think it’s all upgrades over the Nathan.
It’s from a Tumi Accent Kit but currently Tumi is only selling 4 colors. Had to get the older purple kit on eBay, they’re just impossible to find nowadays.
They used to have sales in March and end of year with occasional sales here and there (mainly online). However I've been told some sales are going away, and behold we didn't get a March sale like I'm used to.
Look for sales from authorized retailers such as Saks. If you give them your email, they will also give you a 10-15% off code to use at checkout. I found this backpack on sale for $420 then applied the discount code and used my semi-annual Platinum Amex $50 credit for a great deal. They are out there, you just have to be creative.
Thank you. After weeks of looking for the perfect bag, you helped me settle on this one! Could I ask, where you got those nice purple zip ribbons please?
The purple zipper pulls, luggage tag, and monogram patch all come in a Tumi Accent Kit. Purple is extremely hard to find, so keep checking eBay and other sites for them!
They're both awesome bags, I like slimmer backpacks so I kept the navigation. Once you decide between compact or capacity, hopefully the decision will get easier but you can't go wrong with either!
how do you make those purple zillpper handle/buy thise purple handle?, are there any specific names for itu , and is that purple tumi bag tag official from the store or donu custom it urself? can you please answer
It's by using a Tumi Accent kit, they still sell them in red, blue and orange, but purple was made years ago and are basically impossible to find now. I've only ever seen 2x for sale on ebay!
can you do a usage review on the navigation? especially the side pockets if they are holding up well since they are not in the ballistic nylon like the Nathan. Love your channel and really informative review of Tumi's that you are using !
I actually sold this one and replaced it with the all leather model! It was still as new as when I bought it. The side pocket material has earned my respect over the years, it’s good stuff that seems to hold up well, surprisingly resistant to scratches too.
@@hongtruong5516 leather tends to “patina” as you use it, so it will definitely scratch and wear over time. I try to keep my stuff looking brand new, so I inevitably baby my bags, especially the leather. If you want to take less precaution, just go the nylon route :)
Yes they are. I need to make a video on it but yes there are LOADS of fake bags on eBay now. A lot of sellers with good feedback don’t even know they’re selling fakes at this point so unless you can tell the fakes apart, you could get screwed. Truly unfortunate.
@@BioGear Oh, lovely you say you carry you MacBook Pro 16 in this. I was going to ask the question. I'm on the fence between the Navigation and the Search. I love the Search capacity but I agree that smaller the better when traveling a lot. And I love the Golden Brown colors ;-)
@@adrienmartinot9662 I'm surprised how many people like that color, I hear from my local Tumi store that its popular! I can't stand it lol. I do like the Nav more than the Search personally, but again I prefer smaller bags. The expansion is helpful to bridge the gap.
@@BioGear I admit that I used to like black / dark bag better... But now, I think there is too many black or dark blue bags everywhere and did mistake someone else bag for mine so many time that I would welcome some singularity. Quick question if you mind: when you fit your MacBook Pro 16 naked inside, is it really well protected, like on all sides and corners? Thanks a lot.
I tend to pack as small as possible so I bought the Nav, but you can't go wrong with the Search if you're OK with the extra dimensions, it's a similar layout to the Sheppard which is one of tumis best all-around designs.
@@BioGear I’m like curious because your video was great with the esport large bag. I’ve had it for a few months now It’s way better than I thought coming from nomatic and peak design. I was looking at getting a new one. Seems like this one would be great for light daily carry.
@@MVirnig3D That makes sense, compared to the Esports Large, the Navigator is quite a bit slimmer and smaller. I feel much less like a turtle with it over the Esport L, like i can wear this one everywhere and not stand out. This bag (like the Nathan) is my go-to for recommendations because its so well balanced between small size and capability. Great pocketing, too.
@@BioGear I will have to check it out. Like I said I love my esport bag but it does feel big sometimes. I think I’ll end up checking this one out for a daily work bag. Btw love all your videos and keep up the good work. Also, Do you have any recommendations for a tech pouch?
@@MVirnig3D I Appreciate it! Yes, I dont have one yet but super interested in the AER cable kit 2. I have Tumi's esports accessory kit but it feels overpriced for what it does
@BioGear the water bottle side pockets look tiny. Do you find they actually hold a large bottle of water (say one you would get from an airport)? Or did you have to buy a smaller reusable bottle to fit in the pockets?
Really good review. Particularly how you compared previous models. It's so important. No one else does this so I guess you're ahead of the game, so well done.
Dude you are the best Tumi products reviewer out there. Keep up the amazing work! You are hands down the best on the net in this category!
the fact you can remember the different model / versions of the bag shows you know your products! love the reviews! 🙌🏾🙌🏾
I did not know about this bag until you mentioned it in another review. I’m looking to step down, something not so bulky, not so heavy. Thanks, great job.
Suggestion - demonstrate the size of the bag by putting it on. Cheers👍
I just got this bag and love it! Nice review!
Nice! Thank you!
Initially purchased the Dynamic and quickly swapped for the Navigation for the additional storage. Couldn’t be happier
I've got both but if I had to have only one, it'd be the Navigation. Incredible bag for the size!
I’m thinking to buy the leather navigation, but i can see in your video that your navigation has a different design on the side pockets. Could you tell me why the leather navigation side pockets are different than the nylon one?
Also I’m considering to buy the nomadic backpack for my travel to Japan. Which one do you think I should buy? The navigation leather or the nomadic?
Thanks! Looking forward to hearing from you!!
Navigation nylon has that anti-abrasive material on the sides, and they have near-useless anchor points on them. Navigation leather side anchor points are much more robust. I still hardly consider them much benefiting the bag unless you plan to hook attachments to them (not necessary, the bag has plenty of utility as-is). When I make my Japan trip soon, I'll be taking the Nomadic, as it's an incredibly capable bag with lots of room, pockets, and is relatively slim. I could sum it up like this: daily life = navigation, travel = nomadic
Thanks for the review! Just bought this bag in dark brown leather after seeing that the 16" MBP fits in the laptop compartment.
Glad I could help!
I bought one of the bags that you purchased a year ago. How has the bag held up? Did you ever enjoy using it, and if you did - do you still want it? Also, is it a travel or everyday backpack, and how do you choose to use it? I am pretty excited about getting it - it is on the way as I bought it tonight - and I wanted to know about anyone else's experience. Thanks in advance if you have the time to respond.
@@iu1191 I love it! I've been using the bag almost everyday for both travel and as my daily pack! It's held up really well even when fully packed with heavy electronics. There are a few scuff marks from its frequent use but other than that it looks practically brand new.
@nothabksg Thanks so much for replying. I really love the Tumi pebbled leather. I have it in the Harrison Bates and love how that still looks amazing, so I have high hopes for the Navigation. I saw it and had to splurge to get it, but I think it will last a long time.
I think I will be using it just as you describe because the size is perfect for throwing in some tech and going to a meeting or something like that. The Harrison will do what it is supposed to do and be the one I wear when I have something more formal to go to but still don't want to carry a briefcase.
Can't wait for it to arrive now 😁
Thanks again and belated congrats on getting the bag.
Oh ... One other thing ... Do you see many people with this backpack on your travels? I am a Tumi spotter when I am in the airport or commuting, but I don't really see this one all over the place. It is kind of rare out there. Is that your experience, or do you see it a lot?
For clarity, I don't really care if other people are using it - I would have it even if everyone else also had one. I just don't see it much out there, and I was wondering if that was just because of my location .... or maybe it's just me, ☺.
@@iu1191 Hope you enjoy it! I've personally never seen anyone use this specific pack but I've seen plenty of Tumi brief packs while traveling.
What is the navigation system in this bag?
Interesting. I have one of the "classic" Knox backpacks and didn't realize they'd done away with the d-rings and loops on the shoulder straps. Mine has them and I'm glad to see they're back. I haven't handled a Navigator yet, but I've been looking at them for all the improvements you mentioned. The new compartment layout with the laptop/tablet space narrower, and the other compartment more open is welcome. I always found the split between the two in the Knox usable, but both felt a bit cramped when not expanded. Not sure if the side pockets are taller - they look a little taller - but that would be nice since I make good use of those. Looks like lots of little tweaks over the Knox without changing the character. Helpful review. Thanks!
I got the Navigation in brown leather. I love it. I also got the mobile organizer than goes inside and attaches with the g-hooks, definitely a must have.
Can’t beat the navigation, I was just traveling and used it all weekend, out of 16 backpacks I tend to grab this one on trips lol.
@@BioGeardo you tend to use the navigation more than the search?
Great informative videos. I share the same sentiment with the rest in that you’re the only one really doing reviews on these packs. There is nothing on the logistics backpack.
@@ColorHoles yes I do, it covers my needs more since I carry a laptop and tablet, but not usually clothing. I had a logistics in my ownership used off eBay, but o hated it and resold it before doing a video. Falls over, laptop pocket isn’t gussetted, stuff like that made me hate it lol.
@@BioGear hahaha good to know about the logistics. I did check it out in store, and while I liked how it looked, the main compartment zipper kept getting caught on the fabric.
The navigation looks like where I’m gonna be leaning! Thank you again for getting back to me and also posting these video reviews!
Which is smaller ?
Navigation OR Search ? I think Search is overkill with my new 14" MBP Pro. Please advise...thanks in advance. HNY ❣️
BTW...will my iPad pro 11 inch can fit inside together with my MBP 14 pro as well ?
Tech & Tumi …..I just love your work !
Much appreciated!!
Awesome review, thanks for being so in depth. Is that the Tumi accent kit in the color Atlantic? It almost looks purple.
Thank you! It is in fact purple, which is nearly impossible to find. I've only ever found 2 kits being resold on Ebay in the last 5 years and bought them both lol.
Thanks for posting these review videos man. They're very helpful. Do you know the capacity of the bag (in liters)? I'm currently using the Incase Icon backpack and looking to upgrade to a more premium / professional-looking one.
I think tumi has started to change their models to often, fine that they had a special color or pattern for one season, but now they change what used to be their classical models every season and they do not have the models for years. Their classic Alpha wash bags has been like the best you can have, they have had almost the same design through Alpha 1, Alpha 2 and the Alpha 3 series, now they just removed them with a smaller and less functional washing bag. I am so glad I got one for Christmas last year before it sold out.
I agree, especially over the last 2 years, I have watched several new and interesting models of bags come and go missing completely ofter very little sale time. At least some bags have only small interations, but others just completely disappear
I totally agree - they seem to be operating a get em while they are hot sort of philosophy which is new.
I heard that the average Tumi customer has 6-8 items of their so maybe they are banking on Tumi customers being collectors also.
Collectiors would value the new styles. I myself have too many Tumi bags. How about you guys? Defacto Colectors or just the one bag?
@@iu1191 I think I have closer to 30 bags in my colletion. That consists of backpacks, slings, crossbodies, briefcases. I do buy and sell frequently though.
@@BioGear I am so scared that I am going to end up the same way haha. Just got some higgins slings - What the hell!! These slings are just amazing!! I keep saying I am going to sell one but I never seem to get round to it. Go figure hahaha!!
I was trying to decide between the Alpha Search and Alpha Navigation but the Search doesn’t seem to be available anymore on Tumi’s new website.. I thought it was a relatively new model.
Long time Tumi fan here. Exactly the video I needed. Thanks a lot for helping me decide between this and the Search! Did you ever end up purchasing any of the Tumi Plus accessories?
Thank you for this review. You have a very nice presentation style and voice. I enjoyed listening to your review. I liked that you touched on all the features.
I am trying to decide if the changes and "improvements" in recent Tumi Bravo Backpack models would be a significant enough to warrant an upgrade from my Alpha Bravo Briefpack which is about a10 years old model, but still very serviceable. What is your thoughts on this? I saw a price of $525 for the bag you reviewed.
Great bag review - not enough Tumi actual reviews on youtube, so thanks for doing this. Love the bag. I have had the Kingsville Delux Briefpack (big brother to the Knox) from many years ago, and it is still going strong. I have never seen someone review how the bags are doing years in. Everyone says that Tmui bags last a long time, and I can atest that they do, but I have not found a youtuber that has done such a test or made such a comment. Maybe I need to do that, haha. Thanks for the review. I will keep looking ou for it - a lovely bag.
In everyday use - do you actually notice a difference with your previous use of the Nathen or the Knox even? If so, I would be grateful to hear the main practical differences in use from your perspective. If you have the time, of course. Haha. Thanks.,
Kingsville deluxe was my first ever tumi bag. Most bags I buy stay in orestine condition due to how I treat and use my bags, but I've had a Larson and Nellis for nearly 3 years and they're still 9/10 condition. Also if you have a Knox, I think the Nathan and Navigator are good upgrades. But if you have a Nathan, I wouldn't bother :) the main difference is the Nathan and nav both hold more items, and have a superior front pocket. Knox is very slim and I find the front pocket unusable. Not a deal breaker but the new stuff is better.
@@BioGear Agreed on the differences. I keep thinking my Kningsville is too big then I use it again and I fall in love with it all over again. Tumi make great bags. The front pocket that came when the Nathan, Shepherd, etc came on the scene is much more useful and I am glad they have kept it. Might have to see the knox and get one of the new ones - gonna be a hard things to do though. Love the knox. Thanks for the reply. Much appreciated.
I have a Tumi Alpha Expandable briefcase that I bought in 2013. 9 years later, still going strong and not a single problem. In fact, the ballistic nylon still looks fresh and new. Compare that with an eBags backpack that I bought in 2017 and after ~1.5 years, it was looking tired and ragged. Hence why I'm looking into this Tumi backpack, based on my prior experiences.
@rxl77 Totally the Tumi experience. I hear this all the time and I am experiencing the same thing. Buy Tumi once. I got them for my wife too. The best experience I have had with bags. My job meant I traveled to 50 countries in about 10 years. They held up great and I still have the one that started it all. I bought it in May 2013. Wow.
Funny thing - I got a Samsonite leather backpack (an emergency purchase, and it seemed like a good deal - I thought I would try something different and see what happened) and three weeks later it had a tear in one of the shoulder straps. They wouldn't replace it. My Tumi backpack could be sold today as barely used after it came around the world with me. I bought a Tumi Harrison Bates leather backpack - I love it so much. It is now my briefcase replacement. I absolutely love it. Today - it looks better than the day I bought it!
Thanks for the review! Very informative. I was debating whether to get the Search or Navigation, after this review, think I'll be getting the Navigation after all.
Great review! I've been using the Knox backpack for years. I really like the functionality and size, but I'm looking to upgrade because I was never in love with the styling, and the only one I could afford at the time was from an outlet, thus they made it have an ugly color scheme (green and bright orange). I definitely think the Nathan and Navigation look better, and I'd like to upgrade to one or the other. Putting aside pricing and finding a used Nathan that's legit, my biggest concern with Tumi backpacks involves their size/ bulkiness. I think most Tumi bags are targeted at older (and larger) men. I'm a relatively slim, 5'10 guy and I think most of their backpacks look *ridiculous* on me. To put it directly, I don't want a backpack that is deeper or wider than I am.
The question: Do you know how deep/ tall/ wide these two are compared to the Knox, and also to each other?
Thanks, and please keep making videos!
The Nathan and Knox are nearly identical in all dimensions , however the front pocket of the Nathan makes it a slight bit more deep (off the back). The Navigation is slightly taller, and can now more comfortably fit a MacBook pro 16, which the other two can't/shouldnt (barely). My opinion is that if you're happy with the Knox size, you aren't going to be unhappy with Nathan or nav. The other option is, depending on what your carrying, to check out the smaller bags like the Dynamic, Clinton, and Nottaway. All of which are smaller, so you'll have to gauge your carry load. I think the nav and nathan fit in a perfect size class though :) hope that helps!!
@@BioGear thank you so much! If I could somehow find one in that blue camo I’ll jump on it.
Also love your choice of Kyogre and Glaceon to compliment the blue camo.
hiii where did you do the purple touches loved it goes very well with the black ??
Great review! Picking one up on Sunday 🎉
I got this bag today. Thanks for the review!!
Enjoyed the review! I was in the Tumi store his past weekend and was asking about any new backpacks, and this is the first time I really wanted to see more, but they sold out immediately and didn't have any in the store. I found your review and it answered my questions. Strangely enough, the hidden pocket for my cell is a MASSIVE selling point. I'm always just throwing my cell in my backpack at security and wishing I had a better place for it. Which this has. I see your point about the accessories being a little bit of a gimmick, however, my current backpack has a compartment specifically designed for chargers, wires, accessories, etc., which I absolutely love. And apparently, the Tumi accessory that holds chargers and wires and "hangs" inside the backpack would replace the compartment that I currently have. So I would recommend trying that particular out. You may find you like it a lot. I intend too. Anyway, loved the review and your vibe. Well done.
Highly appreciate it! Glad you found it helpful and hope you land on a bag you enjoy!
Excellent. That camo bag is really cool.
Great review- thank you- in the market for a new travel work laptop backpack
Thank you for the excellent review. It would be really helpful if you were to show the interior main compartment of the navigation expanded. Perhaps you could insert it into your review? Interested to see how it compares with the same compartment in the Search. Which is roomier? When the main compartment of the navigation is expanded how does it carry? With a heavy load that load would be further from your back than is the case with the Nellis. Which bag works better expanded? I think the organised first compartment of the Nellis is superior to the arrangement In the navigation. Functionally I don’t believe that the Navigation is an improvement over the Nellis. However It is I think better looking. Would be interested to hear your view. Trying to decide between search and navigation. Lastly are the side pockets of the navigation more awkward to use with a water bottle? They look better but are narrower than those in the Nellis..
Comparing search and navigation, which one would you recommend for college and everyday carry? Also what’s the main difference between tumi regular nylon vs ballistic nylon? Thanks in advance
Very good review! Thanks. I got the bag today.
Great review - just got mine - you were right on with your review - thank you!
Appreciate the kind words, enjoy that awesome bag!
Love the review, will you do your search comparison soon?
Yes I will, hopefully have it up next weekend
@@BioGear great! Looking forward to it
If you had to choose between Navigation and Logistics, which one would you choose? To me the roll-up top Logistics looks more stylish, but the Navigation looks simpler and more practical. Your thoughts?
I had a logistics for a short time, left a bad impression on me. It wouldn't stand up on its own, the flap wouldn't stay up, the laptop compartment isn't gusseted so it bulges into your back. Overall I was unimpressed, too expensive to like. The navigation is the opposite, it's really well designed and functional. To me the choice is clear, but that's simply my experience!
Thanks. I also felt that the Navigation is simpler and more practical so I bought one in blue
Thanks for these videos.
Wish I could afford one of these. They have been on my radar for about 1 year. Might get one this summer.
Superb & fantastic review. Love this bag. Have an alpha bravo academy briefcase. Planning to buy Navigation, but dilemma on which colour to choose, should go for Navy or Black ???
Thank you! I love black, but that new dynamic stitch option is ao good!!!
@@BioGear Great. Black it is then. Thank you
Great Review, I am planning to buy Tumi Navigation but debate between Leather and Nylon. Which one do you recommend, I will use for travel like one per month. thank you.
I'm a big fan of the nylons personally! The leather is nice too, but not my style :)
I just got this in leather, it looks really good in person. But you pay a price in weight.
hey Nick, nice reviews! Just went through your videos on the Nav and the Search. I'm wondering which one you ended up using the most?
Fun story, so I actually sold the search because I didn't like that the nylons were kinda flimsy on this generation and ended up with some other bags like the nomadic. Tumis got that new Dynamic Stitch option out now and it fixed what I hated about the bags so I bought a search and navigation in that material lol. If I had to keep one, I'd keep the navigation because I like slimmer bags, and the expansion works well, but the search is truly a good backpack and I'm using the heck out of it lately. Plenty of space in it.
@@BioGear thanks for your amazingly prompt reply!! Will probably get a Nav then:)
Really informative review! If I’m still able to buy a Nathan online, which one would you recommend (price aside)? Nathan? Or Navigation?
Thank you!! I am actually carrying my Nathan today, but was using my Navigation yesterday. They're both great, but if I could only keep one, I would probably keep the Nav since it has more room for my 16" macbook
Amazing video, thanks! What is your opinion on the Dynamic Stitch? BTW, how does the Navigation performs against rain?
Thanks!! Absolutely love dynamic stitch, it’s my favorite material by far that Tumi has done. Navigation should do well in rain, although I haven’t tested it
Thanks for the quick reply! If I may: (1) do you have any background on the Dynamic Stitch? Is it a limited edition or something? And (2) how do you see the Stitch against the rain?
@@pedroasmonaco water seems to repel very well on the material. I have only walked through the rain a few times briefly but was able to set the water drops off without the bag soaking it in. Dynamic stitch was a 6 month cycle which Tumi does limited. It’s not going to come back unless they do it again but different somehow
Great review!
Great review. Any idea if an iPad Pro will fit in the laptop area/pocket?
@@usaaussin86the laptop compartment can fit a MacBook Pro 16 easily, so any iPad will fit, but the tablet sleeve that’s in there too will fit up to an 11 inch iPad if you meant just the sleeve
@@BioGear I did, thank you for the comprehensive and fast response. Edit: where'd you get the purple tag and pulls?
@@usaaussin86 No prob, and the purple was an old Tumi Accident Kit thats virtually impossible to find! Got it off ebay years ago. Tumi isn't selling good colors anymore unfortunately, maybe one day they'll listen.
What is you personal preference between the Nathan vs the Navigation? I'd like an every day bag, not too bulky, just big enough to hold my lab top and a couple accessories?
They're roughly the same size. I do like the navigation more now, the laptop and main compartments make more sense. The size is great for daily use, I'm using mine today. Perfect size for laptop, tablet, and some extra junk.
@@BioGear thank you
Hi, do you know if the anti-abrasive material on the side pockets are just normal PU leather. In my experience PU does not last.
hiii i just want ask please from where did u get the purple accessories on the bag ( zipper pulls + the tag ) 🙏🏼
It’s the Tumi accent kit.
Nomadic or Navigation ? which one to buy ...really confused.. want to buy one immediately .. kindly advice .. Thanks in advance ...
@@MrPrashanth0417 the navigation is a well rounded daily backpack that can expand for more space. The nomadic is a larger bag that expands for even more space. If you don’t carry much more than a laptop, tablet, and a few items a day, the navigation is more convenient. If you carry lots of items with you or travel often, the nomadic offers more space and will likely pay off. Even so, the nomadic is an excellent daily bag but just takes up more space than navigation.
Great review. Thanks for sharing.
Which would you recommend more, this or the Tumi Brief Pack?
You have a really nice studio setup!
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Can I ask where you got the purple zipper pulls and name tag? I really love the look!!
The purple is actually an older accent kit that tumi used to sell. Now days they're super rare, almost impossible to find. I hear tumi may bring back a ton of colors though!!!
Can you do a video on the TUMI accents?
I’m new to Tumi and noticed nav has been out for a year or so. Any idea for the next possible release for an update after nav based off knox > nathan time frame?
Being that Tumi has not put the main colors of navigation on sale, I would guess it will stick around for 1-2 more years. It’s a popular model and well designed so I don’t think it’s going out soon.
Great review. Thanks.
Another great video.
great video. thanks
Looking at the sand version of the navigation, any experience with Tumi Nylon versus Ballistic Nylon in terms of durability/longevity?
No experience long term, only saw it in store. Didn't look like it would have issues with longevity
Thanks super helpful and so was the review; deciding between Sand and Black
great review! where did you get the version of the bag with the purple tags?
The color accents are part of an Accent Kit, and are only available for a limited time. I got purple from ebay, had to check regularly for almost a year before finding one! Heres a link to tumi's current kits: www.tumi.com/p/tumi-accents-kit-0103533L017/
@@BioGear they look really cool - i will have to do the same wish me luck - just bought the bag - thanks for quick response!
What's your take on the olive green version of the Navigation backpack? Are the materials the same compared to the black or navy version. Found a real one for $210
Real is the most important factor, the fakes are trash. The green and red colorways use a parachute-like material and the bag has very little rigidity, so it caves in on itself like your average cheap bag. That's the reason I look for the better material variants, and the nylons like black and blue are fine. At $210 the green is tempting though, not gonna lie!
Thoughts on the sand/iron colour of this model? I saw that is is nylon but not the typical ballistic nylon tumi uses!
I have a Retreat tote in sand and it’s kinda floppy. I do like the material but I wouldn’t buy it to have a “solid” bag. Iron especially looks nice imo!!
That's mucho dinero in Tumi backpacks you have there. Love the camo!
I think I have 18 tumi backpacks currently... Not including slings and briefs... So yes it's an expen$ive collection! 💀
@@BioGear 18? Wow! I've got a Tumi suitcase (although recently switched to a Rimowa), my aforementioned Tumi briefcase, and now the new Tumi Search. Can you post a video of all your Tumi backpacks? That would be fun to see.
If you had to choose between the Search and the Navigation, what would you pick? Not sure how much larger the Search is from a capacity perspective.
If I could have only 1 tumi backpack and those were my options, I would probably go Search. I do prefer the smaller size of the Navigation, but I know that sometimes I need just a tad more room and I don't really like using the expansion zipper on the Nav, so the search would be a tad more useful, though it is larger and less streamlined (not much though, let's be real). They're both excellent, I may sell my Sheppard and replace it with a search.
@@BioGear I checked out both in the Tumi store. The Navigation seemed just a tad bit too small, both in capacity inside and the general look of it (looked a bit on the smaller side in the view from the mirror). I ended up with the Search bag instead, which I think is a perfect 1-bag solution for everyday life/work and travel backpack (in conjunction with a carry-on suitcase). I was hoping there was something a little larger than the Search, but then it might be a bit too large at that point. Search, it is!
@@BioGear By the way, I rolled into the Tumi store with my Alpha Bravo briefcase that I bought in 2013 and have essentially used non-stop for last 9 years, including countless business trips on trains, planes, and hotels. It's no joke that I say it's been through a lot and with all that, it's held up remarkably well. Not a single point of failure and get this, the the nylon of the briefcase looks just as good as the new Search backpack I picked up today. Contrast that, with another brand (ebags) slim professional backpack that I bought a few years back to try to save wear and tear on my shoulder and spine - within a year the nylon was looking pretty beat up and ragged. Went right back to my Tumi briefcase for the durability. Finally gave in on upgrading to a Tumi backpack. Yes, expensive but worth it if it lasts a decade or two. Which in case of my briefcase, I swear I could get another decade from it (just I can't handle the weight of it anymore).
Thanks for your excellent review. The design is not impressive. looks like Tumi designers have run out of creative ideas.
Will it fit a 17 inch Alienware laptop? The MacBook looked like a tight fit
@@irfanmalik1864 MacBooks fit great, an Alienware will be much too big. I’d stick to the slim 16” gaming laptops with this backpack. For large gaming laptops, I like the Lenovo armored gaming backpack
Hey! I think I found your black leather navigation on ebay? I was wondering if there was a reason you were selling it? I'm going back to school soon and am torn between the search and the navigation. Also I watched on your video on materials, do you see any reason other than scratches to not get the leather? I'm assuming it is still water proof? Basically the navigation would be perfect for school, but I travel and think that maybe it would be too small to travel with? And that makes me want to get the search, but day to day will it be too big? What are your thoughts having owned both?
So the Search has larger front and side pockets, and larger main compartment, but the Navigation can expand the main compartment as needed. I traveled to Alaska with my Navigation rather than the serach so I could keep it smaller or larger as needed and it did perfect. Unless you really want the larger bag, I tend to recommend the Navigation becasue how perfect of a daily bag it is. The leather is beautiful, and much more rigid than the Nylon, I just happened to love the quilted material more which is why I'm letting the leather go. I bet it'll be absolutely fine getting rained on, the leather and zippers are great. Hope that helps :)
@@BioGear Thank you for the reply! Maybe I’ll buy yours on ebay then haha. I watched your videos first and then went shopping and it looked familiar!
@@BreakF4 that would be really cool!!! 😎
Im curious about the durability between the all Leather Navigation vs Ballistic Nylon Navigation backpack? any thoughts on which would hold up the best?
I would expect the nylon with take abuse better. Leather tends to wear harder and require more conditioning and upkeep. Anything I plan to adventure more with, I get nylon
what do you prefer?? search or navigation bag??
Personally, I don’t carry much other than a laptop and tablet, so I prefer the navigation. 😄
I've been using my Sheppard for 5ish years. Usually for quick overnight business travel as a one bag carry and a laptop bag carry on for intl flights. It still holds up like a tank but I feel the compartments and sleeves are a bit much and adds to weight. Is this Navigation a good slim down option? I only carry a laptop+power block, ANC headphone, a days change of clothes and a dopp kit.
For a kit like that yeah, it sounds like a good size-down. It’s slim and compact but can expand if you need it, really is an awesome bag!
Def gonna check it out. Do you think these are available in european factory outlets? I have a trip coming up, looking to get some deals.
@@andreg8620 the only time a retail bag moves to the outlets are when they’re end of season, so when any of the special fabric options leave stores, that’s when you start looking at outlets for them. I don’t usually see navigations at the outlet, I only saw that red and black one when they were getting rid of them
Love to know more about that pc you build in bg.. Maybe even desk or room setup.
What case is that?
Sounds like a fun video, I'll have to make that soon. It's the Phanteks Evolv X
Great review! Does anyone know where I can find a Knox bag? I know they phased it out but any chance it's still being sold anywhere? I just love the size and profile of the classic Knox and seems like you just can't find it online.
I think the best place to find them is on ebay. That's where I've found mine at. Note that if it ships from China, it's almost guaranteed a fake!
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Tax question: are you going to be able to put the Tumi backpacks as a business expense? I haven't started my channels yet because I have difficulty learning about taxes.
Did you look at the Search backpack? if so, how does it compare (especially in terms of capacity) and what made you choose Navigator?
I did, at my local Tumi store! The Search is a great upgrade over the Sheppard, I really like it. I chose the Navigator because it is the smaller option, and I have both Esports bags and a Sheppard already. Maybe in the future I will sell my Shepard and buy a Search, or get Tumi to let me review one somehow :D
@@BioGear would you say the search is better than Sheppard? Deciding on which to buy
@@OSS976 if you onyl have 200-300 the Sheppard is fine, still a perfectly fine backpack. But if money doesn't matter, I'd definitely get a search
@@BioGear thank you! have you ever tried Briggs & Riley?
Very informative and detailed.
do u recommend the nylon tumi navigation or the leather one, please explain why
You should check my latest video ‘Tumi leather or nylon’ I give my opinion on the fabric options. I actually prefer the limited Dynamic Stitch option because of its rigidity!
Hi! Do you think this would fit underseat size requirements for most airlines?
@@ricardofermin7116 easily. Tumi sells larger bags that fit just fine, the navigation is slim in comparison
@@BioGear thank you sir. I am choosing between the search and navigation. But i think i have to go with the navigation.
@@ricardofermin7116 doubt you’ll regret that decision. The navigation can expand when needed so you’re not missing much. One of my favorite bags and baseline for reviewing.
@@BioGearthanks! The dimension for one of the airlines here in europe is 40x20x25
thoughts on the navigation with the ripstop parachute material, especially on the green coloreay one, bcs im thinking about gwtting one , please repond thankyou
When the red one was on sale I considered getting one, but as I messed with it in store, i saw it lacked structure, being floppy and sack-like. If you plan to carry clothing and misc in it frequently, I think it’s fine but if you want to carry just a laptop, be careful because it could topple over easy
@@BioGear yeah that is what im thinking too, the structure and about it holding its shape, donit being sack like make it seem like its cheaper and is the material good quality or not, is it scratch prone,and one more, is it heavier or lighter than the regular ballistic nylon
@@calvinvincentius9184 I don’t mind the material but it’s not what Tumi is known for, it’s just kind of limited. I think it will hold up really well over time, seems like a good material for handling abuse
Great video!
Can’t decide between the black and the grey blue
Both are nice, the dynamic stitch did it for me though xD
@@BioGear what’s the dynamic stitch ?? Lol
@@dakdak612 it's a grey quilted option avaliable in the US! Has orange accents on it, looks really nice
Nice Review, man.
Hey man, do you think this is a cool option for my first Tumi?
Which one you prefer the new nav or the Nathan?
I really like the navigation. The wider opening main compartment, and slim laptop compartment are how I prefer them. Overall I think it’s all upgrades over the Nathan.
Where did you get the purple accent kit?
It’s from a Tumi Accent Kit but currently Tumi is only selling 4 colors. Had to get the older purple kit on eBay, they’re just impossible to find nowadays.
@@BioGear Wow incredible response time! Doesn't look like there's any on eBay anymore, I appreciate your help.
Looking forward to the blade 14 2022?
To be honest, there's 2 changes I wanted to see and neither got through, which is a 16:10 display and 32gb ram option. Maybe next year right??
@@BioGear yeah let’s hope so, I’m thinking of buying. Wonder if there will be a mux switch.
I'm in the market for a new work backpack. When does Tumi typically go on sale?
They used to have sales in March and end of year with occasional sales here and there (mainly online). However I've been told some sales are going away, and behold we didn't get a March sale like I'm used to.
Look for sales from authorized retailers such as Saks. If you give them your email, they will also give you a 10-15% off code to use at checkout. I found this backpack on sale for $420 then applied the discount code and used my semi-annual Platinum Amex $50 credit for a great deal. They are out there, you just have to be creative.
Is there room to use this for a one night trip?
Thank you. After weeks of looking for the perfect bag, you helped me settle on this one! Could I ask, where you got those nice purple zip ribbons please?
The purple zipper pulls, luggage tag, and monogram patch all come in a Tumi Accent Kit. Purple is extremely hard to find, so keep checking eBay and other sites for them!
@@BioGear you are awesome. Subscribed 💪
Your review convince me to put out the $$$
I can't decide between search and navigation !!!
They're both awesome bags, I like slimmer backpacks so I kept the navigation. Once you decide between compact or capacity, hopefully the decision will get easier but you can't go wrong with either!
Neat review.
how do you make those purple zillpper handle/buy thise purple handle?, are there any specific names for itu , and is that purple tumi bag tag official from the store or donu custom it urself? can you please answer
It's by using a Tumi Accent kit, they still sell them in red, blue and orange, but purple was made years ago and are basically impossible to find now. I've only ever seen 2x for sale on ebay!
@@BioGearwhat is the name of the tab on the zipper ,just in case i wanna oeder that tab for my non-tumi bags
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@@calvinvincentius9184 they’re called Zipper Pulls
can you do a usage review on the navigation? especially the side pockets if they are holding up well since they are not in the ballistic nylon like the Nathan. Love your channel and really informative review of Tumi's that you are using !
I actually sold this one and replaced it with the all leather model! It was still as new as when I bought it. The side pocket material has earned my respect over the years, it’s good stuff that seems to hold up well, surprisingly resistant to scratches too.
@@BioGear The leather looks really nice! But will it hold up over the years or will the leather start to break down...? Don't want to baby a backpack.
@@hongtruong5516 leather tends to “patina” as you use it, so it will definitely scratch and wear over time. I try to keep my stuff looking brand new, so I inevitably baby my bags, especially the leather. If you want to take less precaution, just go the nylon route :)
Is it possible to see some pictures of the leather version? I’m debating on whether to buy the black nylon or black leather version
Will it fit Strix 16? Thanks
Seeing these on EBay from a Japan seller down around $260-$340. They are around $525 or more from Tumi. Wondering if they are knock offs. 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
Yes they are. I need to make a video on it but yes there are LOADS of fake bags on eBay now. A lot of sellers with good feedback don’t even know they’re selling fakes at this point so unless you can tell the fakes apart, you could get screwed. Truly unfortunate.
Huge thanks @biogear
This one bigger than the brief pack?
I've owned a couple Alpha 3 Brief packs, they are deeper and can hold more then the Nav. Lots of storage on those bags.
how much liter before and after expand tumi alpha bravo navigation?
Sadly enough, Tumi seems to have no interest in giving those measurements on their bags, so I’m not sure either.
Possible to put a 11" inch ipad and 15" laptop into the Navigation backpack?
Yes, I normally carry my iPad pro 11 and MacBook pro 16 in it.
@@BioGear Oh, lovely you say you carry you MacBook Pro 16 in this. I was going to ask the question. I'm on the fence between the Navigation and the Search. I love the Search capacity but I agree that smaller the better when traveling a lot. And I love the Golden Brown colors ;-)
@@adrienmartinot9662 I'm surprised how many people like that color, I hear from my local Tumi store that its popular! I can't stand it lol. I do like the Nav more than the Search personally, but again I prefer smaller bags. The expansion is helpful to bridge the gap.
@@BioGear I admit that I used to like black / dark bag better... But now, I think there is too many black or dark blue bags everywhere and did mistake someone else bag for mine so many time that I would welcome some singularity. Quick question if you mind: when you fit your MacBook Pro 16 naked inside, is it really well protected, like on all sides and corners? Thanks a lot.
Can you do luggage reviews 😁
I do own one tumi international carry on, I suppose I can review that :)
I thought this was Kris Bryant giving a backpack review!
Nick what's your opinion on the Search vs the Navigator. Do you think its worth the extra cost?
I tend to pack as small as possible so I bought the Nav, but you can't go wrong with the Search if you're OK with the extra dimensions, it's a similar layout to the Sheppard which is one of tumis best all-around designs.
What is the estimated max liters?
Apologies, I'm not used to volume sizes and Tumi doesn't list them... It is similar in size to a 20L backpack i had, though.
@@BioGear I’m like curious because your video was great with the esport large bag. I’ve had it for a few months now It’s way better than I thought coming from nomatic and peak design. I was looking at getting a new one. Seems like this one would be great for light daily carry.
@@MVirnig3D That makes sense, compared to the Esports Large, the Navigator is quite a bit slimmer and smaller. I feel much less like a turtle with it over the Esport L, like i can wear this one everywhere and not stand out. This bag (like the Nathan) is my go-to for recommendations because its so well balanced between small size and capability. Great pocketing, too.
@@BioGear I will have to check it out. Like I said I love my esport bag but it does feel big sometimes. I think I’ll end up checking this one out for a daily work bag. Btw love all your videos and keep up the good work. Also, Do you have any recommendations for a tech pouch?
@@MVirnig3D I Appreciate it! Yes, I dont have one yet but super interested in the AER cable kit 2. I have Tumi's esports accessory kit but it feels overpriced for what it does
@BioGear the water bottle side pockets look tiny. Do you find they actually hold a large bottle of water (say one you would get from an airport)? Or did you have to buy a smaller reusable bottle to fit in the pockets?
Small bottles only, id say no larger than the 16 oz bottles. If you want it to zip up, go even smaller!
@@BioGear man that’s a bummer. Only real oversight I can see to the bag. Thanks for the great material as always!
Do they all have blue all over them
They come all black, I added the purple myself
@@BioGear thank you
Could be fit to dell g15? Depth: 272.11 mm
That's right at the maximum limit. If it fits, it will be tight.
@@BioGear thanks for reply. i think it's the time to buy another smaller notebook 🥲