Affordable X570 VRM Thermal Performance, Warning: One Board Sucks!
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Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite: amzn.to/2Z3759I
Asus TUF Gaming X570-Plus: amzn.to/31CUYhb
Asrock X570 Steel Legend: amzn.to/31BfU88
MSI MPG X570 Gaming Edge WiFi: amzn.to/2yVtaIz
Gigabyte X570 Aorus Xtreme: amzn.to/2GOSlAP
MSI X570 Godlike: amzn.to/2KsRQxk
Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Hero: amzn.to/2YwlUSR
Asrock X570 Phantom Gaming X: amzn.to/2T6xMVi
Asrock X570 Taichi: amzn.to/2GKzJSo
AMD Ryzen 5 3600: amzn.to/2NBu0nT
AMD Ryzen 5 3600X: amzn.to/2S2gKap
AMD Ryzen 7 3700X: amzn.to/2FYuCh0
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Best Affordable X570 Motherboard, VRM Thermal Performance
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At the end of the video I mention a picture of all the boards, well I didn't take it in time... so here it is now ;) twitter.com/HardwareUnboxed/status/1161069976251293697
Steve, the best price I could find for the ASUS board is AU$359.
@@locta2861 Sounds right, about what I paid from memory.
@@Hardwareunboxed Yeah, that's from most major retailer but I found a cheaper one at $341 after posting it. The Asrock board seems to be the cheapest in Australia at $338
Thank you for all this hard work. I currently am running the Crosshair Hero VI with a 3600X. I have been considering a mb upgrade but maybe next year at the earliest. I was considering just going with another Crosshair Hero, but the Gigabyte Aorus Master is very tempting. But as you point out in this video you don't HAVE to pay $300+ for good performance with future upgradability. I hope you get some sleep, you have been putting in the hours. I don't want you to get sick, I hope you find a way to automate some of this work.
This might be a stupid question but why does the TUF motherboard have 4 x Front USB 2.0 ports what is the point of usb 2.0?
Great video once again Steve! Thanks for taking the time to run all these tests, the results are super helpful. Keep it up man! 👍
Aye
Yup
Thanks Paul, great to hear and happy to do it mate.
YES FOR NVM SSD PLACE????
Hello Tom's !
14:54 for the results
Thank you, Hero.
Ty my lord
Thanks was looking for this
Hero
Lower the number the better right?
MSI pushing the VRMs to the edge
cheapo edgy gamerz would still buy it!
@@Napoleonic_S why
@@thepolticalone961
it's a joke man.
@@Napoleonic_S ok
more like pushing it to carbide edges with lmao
Good to see the testing. This stuff not only helps consumers but also if the manufacturers are sharp they would learn from this too. Was too bad to see the MSI board do poorly after a pretty stellar B450 lineup.
love all the hard work and time you put into your channel. thanks for the great info.
These videos are always helpful when deciding to build a new rig. Awesome video and thank you for these types of videos.
The Tuf-Gaming had allready caught my attention for the features it provides at 200$. Here in Greece it reatails for about 240€ for the wi-fi model and i was just waiting for your review before making the purchase. I think it will make an excellent pair with the r7 3700X. Great job as allways, Steve. Thank you mate!!!
Thanks for the review!
Bought the MSI Gaming Plus(same VRM?) and saw this the day before it got delivered. Returned it right away and ordered the Aourus Elite instead.
I was waiting for this video definitely I'm going to purchase the TUF X570 for my R9 3900X. Thanks again Steve for such a great video.
Enjoy the Realtek Lan.
Wow, hadn't expected the MSI board to be worse then Asrocks or ASUS's considering what we saw last gen.
That's why they are giving cooler master liquid cooler with up $300 mobo
@@Ultimateharen But that doesnt make VRM cooler
@@z83rulek No but it makes buying a shitty board less painful.
@@GareWorks Considering that you get a €50-60 aio cooler with it you're better off just getting a dark rock 4
whats crazy is im running the gaming edge and its great. the power phase is lackluster especially with the 5000 series cpu. my vrm temps have never gone above 65-70 at full load but then again im a temp nut so im always using great airflow cases.
I think top tier B450 vs low tier X570 would be interesting
Only top tier x470 can match with low tier x570
Yes! That would be great. MSI's B450 Gaming Pro Carbon vs their own low-end X570-A Pro?
@@benfraser7747 they have the same vrm, so it's a matter of heat sinks size.
im sitting on b450 pro carbon and would love to see vrm temps with 3900x in this video's fashion
b450m mortar vs low tier x570
Thx for the great Video - I would've chosen the wrong board to be honest (wanted the MSI X570-a pro).
Going with the Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite now - You have been a tremendous help!!!!!
So Mid Range Boards next? Like the Asrock Extreme4, Gigabyte Aorus Pro WiFi, Asus Prime X570-Pro and MSi Gaming Pro Carbon WiFi
Yes! The Extreme4 is exactly the same to the Steel Legend, except it supports a front USB C connector for your case. Very interested
@@hantzleyaudate7697 yeah, I personally love the aesthetic of the Extreme4 and the Taichi from AsRock and the MSi Ace board as well
@@enthusiasticgmgaming4165 The Taichi is a good board because it is cheaper than other boards with similar features and has a decent VRM.
The Phantom Gaming X on their other hand is just a Taichi + 2.5G lan and is one of the weaker boards at the higher price point.
yes, do this one
They will legit be almost the same as the 200 boards.
Here years later and this roundup is still coming in handy, thank you!
Strange to see the king of B450 being so bad at X570
Im gonna guess before watching, asrock?
Kamal Mahmud umm no...
Only sector ASRock are competitive in B450 is the ultra cheap where their B450M-HDV is the best option.
MSI completely dominate all other price points.
@@kamalhm-dev nope. Msi
Msi isn't the king of b450
@@hwstar9416 who is and what model?
I still don't understand why 99% of all Hardware channels tested the 700$ boards first. Only a very small group of people will buy them. But for the tests of the budget boards, which most people will buy, you have to wait month.
Obviously to set the benchmark :S
Probably ask too
Gigabyte really stepped up their game in the motherboard department, I'm quite impressed.
And thank you for the great reviews!
I went with the TUF x570 Plus WiFi based off Gamers Nexus/ Buildzoid's recommendation of its VRM. As I got a 5900x 12 for cpu and am overclocking I needed something good. It's done perfectly well holding a 4.8Ghz all core OC.
With how the Gigabyte Elite and Extreme turned out, I would love to see a full review on the Gigabyte Aorus X570 Master from you guys!
And ultra!
The entire line of Gigabyte's X570 boards have good VRMs across the board. So there really is no concern.
Even their cheapest Gaming X which is not of the Aorus line has a respectable 10-phase VRM.
My Aorus Elite is waiting here for my other components to arrive. Really happy with the results!
Right there with you!
Same.
Only the CPU to check off the list now.
Same + 3700X and maybe in 2-3 years a 3900x
@@lifemocker85 That Asus board looks impressive, bad thing i want Asus to eat shit xD.
@@Kaguzuchi83 same + 3800x + msi rx gaming x 5700xt
Thanks Steve. This series is really helping in my decision making.
Yeah not buying msi is the first step in getting a good motherboard.
That sure is a lesson learned.
So buildzoid was right as usual :)
he eats vram dude, what u expect?
dude dream with VRM every night, and do videos about everyday.
Yeah I took a note of his thoughts that "ASUS have made this board too good at the price range" a few weeks ago and this tallies exactly. I'm deciding between this and the ASUS Prime X470 Pro (which Steve recommended in another video) which is a little cheaper for my current 2700 (OCd) and later probably a 3800x or 3900x.
B K Nah mate the Prime Pro doesn’t have the heatsink to support a 12 core.
Btw 3800X is poor value, get the 3700X.
@@edisonyang3283 Ah, ok. Well in that case I guess I should spend a bit more and get the TUF. cheers.
The TUF in the 1.4v test is really telling. Those temps beat anything else, despite the low price point of this motherboard. Although I find it odd that there is no VRM thermal sensor, this board seems to be an amazing value
yea and more exp than other boards.
It's so refreshing to see serious high end motherboards for the AMD platform
Thanks for these tests. Originally I planned to buy the Asus tuf gaming, and after watching this video I am pleased with my decision, I hope to build a mid range gaming PC with the ryzen 5 3600 and 5700XT red devil.
Good Build!
THANK YOU!
I was looking at the MSI Gaming Edge or Gaming Plus and just avoided making a colossal mistake.
Got the X570 Steel Legend and works fantastic, not warm at all with minimal airflow together with a 3800.
MSI should drop the wifi and name it Gaming "Edge of viability".
Or maybe Msi gaming probably not even able to run a 1 core cpu using 1w.
Really appreciate this kind of information. Is it possible to also include mATX and ITX in the mix?
It's not, because there are no boards right now. AORUS had an ITX board at launch and an mATX Biostar board has been pictured recently (not sure on the availability), but that's pretty much it.
@@z1ga Gigabyte and ASRock both have ITX boards. What are you talking about?
Thanks for this video. It's good to see the $200 range boards go through some tests. I went with the Aorus Elite in my build based off of Buildzoid's early review of the various pricing tiers of X570 boards and I looks like I chose a good one.
Thanks for testing these. I went with the tuf gaming X570 plus WiFi and it really is an excellent board for the price. Works really well with my 3700x.
Amazing work as always! You do the best comparisons to help us viewers decide on what to get.
I just bought the Asus X570 Tuf :>
Ik I’m commenting 1 year later but how is it? Do u have any problems or anything?
@@chrisnoname1357 No it's a great mainboard.
Thank you guys. You just saved me from making a big mistake. Changed my order to de TUF from the gaming edge wifi.
how is the tuf? how loud is the fan? i bought the elite but it has bad coil whine from the vrm and others have the same issue. im just concerned about the tuf fan noise.
Watched one video from buildzoid about the Asus boards and VRMs when I knew nothing about what a VRM was at the time, and ended up going with the Asus tuf x570.
I'm happy with my purchase.
Just a small note, Asrock x570 steel legend and Extreme4 (since they are basically the same pcb) don't support Noctua's D15 and D14. Learned it the hard way.
Please don't ignore the horrific placement of the chipset fan for ASUS and ASRock. With one of the longer GPUs, such as a 1080 Ti partner card, the fan will be completely covered.
I have that one of my asus boards too haha.
I'm going to upgrade to 3700X shortly and want to buy Crosshair VII for it. Though many comments in the internet suggest that X570 ~200$ are better than top tier x470 boards... Now I'm kinda torn... Either get a mid x570 or the top x470 (price is the same). I don't need PCI 4.0 but I'm still in a pickle here.
Just bought an asus tuf x570 and ryzen 7 3700x upgrading from ancient MB and i7 2600k cpu.... pairing it with a 2070 super.... wish me luck on my first time swapping out these parts myself... 😬
If it makes y’all feel better, I bought the MSI gaming edge before there was an AIO combo deal. It works great with my 3700x though. I haven’t had an issue yet with MSI products 👌
exactly... Steve loves to cherry pick results. No mention of the fact that if you AREN'T running a 3900x (which 99% of people aren't now and wont ever) the MSI boards are fine. Specially with the most popular chip in the run the 3700x which isn't a 105w tdp.
@@itsneight1260 if you dont run 3900 or 3950 you dont pick x570 comma.
comma being if you want to upgrade in the future
b450 is perfectly fine with ryzen 7 3800x fully oced (for instance tomahawk), so if you buy x570 you buy for the ryzen 9 support, it matters. (pcie gen 4 will only really matter by the time am5 releases so its kinda pointless).
and it doesn't matter if it's cherry picked because if the result is possible and happened in real life, it's a real issue.
you literally sound like toms hardware, did you happen to be paid off? the boards have issues, msi acknowledged issues, msi fixed issues (see other videos). simple as that, it is a problem.
I HAVE 1 RUNNING A 3800X NO ISSUES EITHER
@@bananya6020 wow your opinion is not required ... i got a 3800x running in the board with 2 sabrent pcie 4 m.2 drives in for my gaming and rendering ... loading games at 5gb/sec means that gaming performance for me is lightning ... all my games run at lightning speed ... so your comment is mute ... i also do alot of rendering for my artwork and the pcie 4 m.2's are perfect for the job .... seriously not everyone needs to be pissing up a wall and just because it doesnt suit you doesnt mean it doesnt suit others ... and MSI are a far better brand than other manufacturers
@@corrie1688
1. "Your opinion is not required".
Fuck off, this is a free speech platform. If you want to live with your shitty decisions, so be it. Not my problem. But, I think I'll look at actual results to make sure I don't end up sad like you.
2. "I got a 3800x running in the board"
So, basically you used a 3700x and got a marginal stock overclock. EVERY b450 board can do 3700x. Hell, most a320 boards can too.
3. "2 sabrent pcie 4 m.2 drives in for my gaming and rendering"
You do you, but I'm sure that the "5gbps" doesn't matter in real life when you render, because your cpu is the bottleneck. At that point, your cpu is ALWAYS the bottleneck. That's also why I said "Won't matter until am5" because hopefully by then, the manufacturers/engineers get their ass together and make a worthwhile cpu. I'm sure that a pcie 3 ssd can get 6 second loading times (oh noes! my whole second!) and have the exact same performance elsewhere.
4. "so your comment is mute"
i'm not sure i was talking in the first place. i was typing.
5. "i also do a lot of rendering for my artwork and the pcie 4 m.2s are perfect for the job"
Just like every other ssd ever. Rendering is perfectly fine on pcie 3.0, and your cpu is definitely still the bottleneck.
6. "seriously not everyone needs to be pissing up a wall and if it doesn't suit you doesn't mean it doesn't suit others"
fair enough. can't argue with this point because it's *subjective* by nature. if you like big numbers and have the cash, go ahead and buy pcie 4 ssd's. for that matter, pcie 4 ssd's will work in the future, but you can just as easily run it in pcie 3, get 99% of the performance today, and still keep it for the future and not buy an overpriced chipset that won't last until pcie 4 is truly relevant.
7. "MSI are a far better brand than other manufacturers"
ah yes, exactly what people said about intel when amd came out, and what people say about apple, etc today. every manufacturer is shit, because every manufacturer only wants your money and couldn't care less about the product. being good products is only a side effect of trying to get your money before everyone else gets it. msi, asus, asrock, gigabyte have, has, and will continue to have shit boards, shit cards, etc in the future. no one manufacturer is always better objectively.
but in the end, i will say this: if it works for you, then that's actually fine. i just don't like how you want to act better than me because of your supposedly "superior" decision. just have fun, enjoy your board, because as long as it works, that's all that matters. so enjoy your processor and enjoy your board, but please don't try to defend your position this hard, because you really never needed to. could've just said "I like mine, because I use a 3800x anyways" and called it a day, but you needed to find a way to prove that the msi whatever is somehow still superior when cold facts with proper testing have already proven the opposite, multiple times.
oh, and tl;dr: your choice is fine because it works for you, but stop pissing up the wall trying to defend yourself when you never needed to in the first place. also, AMERICA FREE SPEECH HELL YEAH
I bought the aorus elite on launch without seeing reviews, I guess I did well. :)
Did ok, tuf is surprisingly better
I bought elite over tuf because of intel lan and front usb c.
U did wrong but u were lucky. Never buy before trusty reviews pop up
Bought Elite also because of good vrm reviews, intel lan, and front usb C. None of the other boards at this price had it!
@@alexworm1707 Define "better". TUF Gaming has a WiFi option but has crappy Realtek LAN. It has debug LEDs but no BIOS flashback.
Aorus Elite has flashback but no debug LEDs, Intel LAN, USB-C header, and the WiFi option is only available in some markets (allegedly - it's not out yet, either way).
Both have great VRMs (the Aorus Elite edges out the TUF Gaming slightly; not that it matters) so that's not an issue for either board.
Honestly, I don't see why you'd say the TUF Gaming board is better. It's about even with the Aorus Elite, and which one is "better" for _you_ depends on what you need/want.
And on a personal level, after ASUS' little marketing stunt recently, I'd go for Gigabyte's boards over ASUS' any day of the week.
i was already planning on getting the tuf gaming, this one has made my mind certain on getting that board.
Could you also test the mini itx boards? It would be very interesting to see how small boards perform
The Aorus Elite has definitely the best VRMs in this price range. Unfortunately they didn't include the ALC1220 audio chip and no USB type c. The Steel Legend has these features, so it really comes down to VRM vs features.
I feel like the 8 phase VRM of the Steel Legend is more than enough, if you're not running on an open test bench, so I would go for the Steel Legend. Especially the Steel Legend WiFi ax is the value king, because it even includes WiFi 6 and BT 5. The direct competitor would be the Aorus Elite WiFi, but I haven't seen that anywhere yet. And the Aorus Pro WiFi is a lot more expensive, but has feature parity with the Steel Legend WiFi ax.
The problem with the TUF Gaming is that it can only shine in a max load scenario. With an overclocked 3900X. That's simply because of the low phase count with the many stages. The TUF Gaming also doesn't have the ALC1220 audio chip and it doesn't have an Intel NIC, which is a no-go for a $200 board.
Elite has an Intel LAN chip and a type C via header.
You can count the amount of people who care about onboard audio chips on one hand.
If you actually want an ALC1220 then these boards aren't for you to begin with.
@@droravrahami6375 No one said that the Elite didn't have an Intel NIC.
Why are you saying that about the ALC1220? The Steel Legend has it and it's exactly in this price range. It's even cheaper than the Elite on Newegg right now.
This is the knowledge that the majority of the RUclips community is not giving us. Thank you for the effort!
Thanks for the review! Just bought the gaming edge and when asked on a forum if my built was all ok, someone pointed me to your video. Gonna cancel the motherboard and go for the X570 PLUS
THX, this test shows theres a lot more to know bout bords yet to come before purchase.
Yeah I learned my lesson. Never get msi, even asrock is better.
Very informative tests as always mate, love your dedication cheers !
Hardwares unboxed. They are “legends” in reviews & testing... I think some companies may have some fear about these “legends”
no, they don't test properly. Do you run an open test bench???
Very nice video. Makes me very happy with my recent purchase of the Asus X570 Tuf. Have a Ryzen 7 3700x in it and absolutely loving it. Coming from Intel my entire life, glad I took another look at AMD
Good to see that Asus hasn't killed the TUF line after all, although they're still vastly different from what that line used to represent.
The Gigabyte has better features. More rear USB ports, Intel LAN, better audio set up, 6 SATA ports that are at the correct/usable angle and BIOS flashback. No WiFi though.
In Aorus Xtreme they actually have Wi-Fi Module.
@@piorun7903 Every board has features to consider. A Wi-Fi module wouldn't make a bit a difference to me, but I could see how that would be a necessary box to tick for those that need it.
I am fairly certain there is an Auros Elite with wifi.
@tamarockstar45 - and HORRIBLE software, terrible support for future bios, bad memory compatibility, and no USB-C. Not to mention they are overpriced. Hard pass.
@@itsneight1260 i have the elite and im getting coil whine on idle which is super annoying in my silent system.
Bought a ryzen 3700x and msi mpg x570 gaming about a month ago, haven't had any issues. But this video makes be a bit concerned.
It is not as bad as it seems. This is not the same board. Check GN ruclips.net/video/DinQsUNepoU/видео.html
Unless you are doing crazy overclocks (Highly unlikely) then this is of no concern.
B450 Tomahawk owner here..
And I am sad how MSI failed in 570x cheap models ($200 still not cheap, more like what X470 high end models costs)
Too bad that B450 Tomahawk is solid Mobo overall, but as we all know..
Every year some company screws their Mobos, while every year some company improve their Mobos.. just like Stock Market
Appreciate you telling it like it is, Steve. I used your benchmarks and reviews to pick my parts for this gen's build. Cheers, mate!
Very nice, what about a video about the 359-379 tier? I'm really struggling to decide btw the Aorus Master X570 and the Asus CH Hero VIII.
EDIT: Just finished the video! YEEEAEEEEAAAAHH!!!
Have a look here at Buildzoid's videos on the X570's. He covers all of them. He is also brutally honest in his analysis! If it sucks, he'll tell you! And if he recommends it, you can't go wrong.
ruclips.net/channel/UCrwObTfqv8u1KO7Fgk-FXHQsearch?query=x570
you got 3 dislikes, means 3 people bought that MSI Board :-)
Or they are selling those boards.
Omg so funi haha moment
But it was super-hyper-mega-ultra....
@@boingkster Gaming x Pro Plus *
almost bought that motherboard :/
VRMs most important if u plan to OC. Wifi, lan, audio can all be upgraded
Manged to return my Gaming Edge and got full refund and went for Asus Tuf Gaming Plus. Dealer had no Aorus Elite in stock, but very happy with how the board works with 3900X compared to the nighmare voltages and temps with MSI...
It's almost like Asus remembered that they're tough series used to be something that was respected and actually built it to be
yes, that Asus Crosshair VIII Hero is something fantastic and I own one and i can tell you is one of the best motherboards for x570 amd
Can you do the same vrm tests on the MSI x570 pro carbon? I hope I didn't get a dud....running 3900x now but will get the 3950x when it gets released.
Maybe you can check hwinfo for temps..it will help me aswell to decide..I want to buy Carbon pro
@@martinrakovicky1189 Did cinebench run back to back many times. "VR MOS" under HWiNFO64 reached 77 degree as max. This was 3900x with stock cooler which is worse case scenario since it blow hot cpu air straight into the vrm. So Carbon seems fine.
was concidering taking my AORUS Elite out of the basket due to the store not having it in stock, to get the MSI one instead for my r9 build, so glad i watched this. worth waiting an extra week
So thanks dude :D
MSI basically copypasted same old outdated design VRM from B450 and what was OK good in them is very low end in X570.
Asus and Gigabyte who both had some pretty much scam level VRMs again took hold of themselves and changed to strong modern design VRMs.
(except for X570 Gaming X)
Hopefully you make the money. Gotta love people that do work for the sake of good work.
I just upgraded my 6 years old FX-8350 system to Ryzen 5 3600X (all 3600 was sold out in my city) pairs with the Asus TUF and Corsair 3200 Ram.
After the 1st bootup and a bit of tweaking on the Ram, holy shit my system gets so much faster. My 3 years old R9 390 got unleashed due to not being bottlenecked anymore by the FX. Looks like I won't have to upgrade the GPU for at least another 12 months.
Just did a similar upgrade, FX-8350 -> 3900x (same board), and all I can say is "wow!!".
Iyke Mbala ikr 😀
This gives me hope for my new build. Same upgrade just going with the 3700x and gigabyte elite.
Wow, at this point like/dislike is 102 Vs 1. Speaks volumes about your quality content!
Thanks for the hard work!
This so much appreciated! Thank you Steve for your hard work and efforts. Looking forward to the next video
Interesting that Gigabyte boards seem to report the most accurate temps to HWinfo, versus other manufacturers. Not always, but most.
Nice of you to give Buildzoid a shoutout! Super smart guy. And he's only 21!
Great review, as always. o7
Are you going to test the MSI B450 Tomahawk Max with the 3900x? I'm trying to figure out what the cheapest board is that can handle the bigger 12 and 16 core chips so I could cheap out now and upgrade in the future.
Upgrading a mobo is a bitch, go with an x570 and an ryzen 7
Well RIP me, I just bought a MSI X570 Gaming Edge Wifi 😂
Anyway, I don't think it will be that bad when gaming.
Me too :D
I'ts not bad for gaming (that's way they call it GAMING Board)
In games CPU utilization is about 25-50% - so MB will never overheat to the high temps.
Second reason - most of mid range systems using Air CPU cooler - which cooling MB a lot.
So, should be fine... But others doing it better ;)
@@stanley3647 just wondering how you all are doing with this board now. i got it very slightly used and just finished my rig with a 5900x, rtx 3080. gonna be running some thermal tests soon.
@@RyanLBC I've got Aorus board now, and Asus TUF Gaming in second rig ;) but if You stay with air cooler, temps should be lower. AIO systems usually don't have fan at CPU socket, so air is not moving around power section. Increasing temps.
Secondly, You can always put extra fan for fresh air around.
I can confirm one thing: in games my CPU (Ryzen 5600X) is usually below 20% usage (due to graphic card limitation - GTX 1080) and high resolution (3x1080p monitors).
Same, I monitored it with he monitor, and outside of a case as a test bench it went way over 100 degrees and a 120mm fan blowing at full speed did nothing. I turned it off after it reached 109c after like maybe 45 seconds at most. I wouldn't even run a 6 core on this to be fair. At most maybe a 4 core 8 thread would work but I wouldn't risk it.
I love this RUclips channel and the best part is that it makes me remember tiger direct with “”LOGAN”” .
Thanks for this video! I’m probably gonna be picking up the Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite because the tuf gaming is out of stock right now.
Hello, would you consider making a comparison of the next tier of x570 motherboards in terms of price point
Thanks
*edit: i just heard you say you were going to do exactly this near the end of the video, looking forward to it!
ad the Gigabyte Aorus master next please.
You went really in details about the vrms and stuff on the motherboards which can hardly be found on other reviewers' videos. Pls maintain your style of making videos even though some might say it is long!!!
I really appreciate this kind of testing. I think I first discovered this channel because it was the only channel I found which offered informative reviews of B450 and B450M boards.
ASUS is good value? What a coincidence.
Not in features.
Lol not when you consider the rest of the motherboard, asus is the most overpriced motherboard vendor right now, they think they are Apple and charge a premium compared to competitors with the same features
Do you mean contradiction?
Paul Yes in features as well.
Is that your real name?
“I’m sorry but the gaming edge just sucks.” Lol
I have the Aorus Elite X570, and it has been nonstop trouble since I got it. No picture unless I held down the reset button. Eventually, this no longer worked and that was that. It was sent away to be repaired and the BIOS chip had been replaced. After I reinstalled it, within 5 minutes I got a blue screen of death. I restarted it, and 2 hours later another blue screen popped up. It would no longer show a picture and nor would it turn off unless I cut the power at the PSU. There are several Reddit posts relating to the BIOS issues of the Aorus Elite X570. So based on my experience of it, I would not recommend the Aorus Elite X570 by Gigabyte.
Just bought my machine with Gigabite elite ... I was scared coz I didn't do proper review but thanks to you I'm happy now. I didn't make a wrong choice...😊
lmao i got jebaited by msi gaming edge wifi because of the free aio cooler
Me too.
same bro same
same. kinda salty about this because i trusted the brand.
@@asurakishin8105 haven't built mine yet so I'll see if I can swap it for the asus tuf.
Same. We should have known better of this scam promo
That MSI board must be defective, I got the same one and running a cpu stress test it has never reached anything close to 100 C
Marcel S. I have bought one and according to a friend it runs fine
Also i have not yet built my pc as im waiting on a piece
I have my pc now, and its running great. I hope he redoes this video. Shame, as this is misinforming lots of people
@@jozzemexure5374 What temps do you get on the board?
Marcel S. Havent actually checked tbh, but not hot. The fan never has to turn on (it does work) and i have never had an issue. That temperature is certainly not what ive been getting, but ill get a thermal tracking software. Just been a bit bust lately
At this point in present, in my country, Gigabyte Aorus Elite is $226, Asrock Steel Legend is $234, Asus TUF Gaming Plus is $212 and the MSI is $205. So basically 1 year passed and the prices here are still over MSRP
I already had my eye on the Asus, so it's nice seeing it benchmarked and performing well. For my next build, i'm prioritizing video rendering and other multithreaded tasks over raw gaming performance, so i'll most likely go with a 3900x and 32 gigs of ram to get a lot of bases covered; and a custom 5700XT to get high-end GPU performance without adding too much to the total cost.
Hey Steve, are you able to test the Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master? I just bought one with a 3700X and would like to see how it stacks up against what else you have tested.
Just bought the Asus TUF gaming for my new rig. I hope to report good things
whats the status
Something somethingsomething everything has been running great. I have zero complaints so far. Works great with my Ryzen 7 and nvidia 1660ti.
Best x570 is the
x470 or b450:) u don't need x570 at all.
I try my 3600, 3700x on asrock b450m($79) no issues at all. It can even overclock both to 4.2ghz (3600) 1.35 volts. Max temps after 2 hr gaming 65C ,3700x oc 4.3ghz 1.37 volts max temps 69c after 2hr of gaming. Test with stock coolers.
Really happy to see this as I'm building around the Asus TUF MB in a couple weeks with a 3600X. Looks like an absolute beast at that price.
thank you, my choice will Asus Tuf Gaming Plus - for 3700x
WARNING: asus removed a bunch of STANDARD overclocking controls from the bios like bclk adjustment, spread spectrum, digi+ memory control and bios is just a general mess. there are settings for same stuff in multiple places and adjusting stuff like VCORE does NOTHING!!!! i am really disapointed w/ my purchase. if you want a good overclock get the gigabyte.
edit: when contacted they said they didn't think most people needed that stuff and saving those settings for their "premium" boards. so now they want you to pay $700 for bclk? bullsh*t,.. never again.
trance dj thanks man I’ve just read this. Lucky I didn’t buy it. I’m going for the carbon pro
@@JonYen69 if you are going with msi you should really be looking at the Unify.
Gigabyte is trying very hard a comeback, i'll suport them this gen ;).
yeah do it. i got the tuf board and asus really f***ed up the bios. removed a bunch of settings for overclocking, man, it's just a mess. i've commented about it a few times in this thread and hate to keep repeating myself but let me know if you have any questions.
@@XX-121 what do u recommend me to get then ?
i am going to buy very soon so i would appreciate ur help
@@7thaifaaleraqi258 if I had to do it again I would get the msi unify. But Its a little more. Asus updated the bios and gave us cpu spread spectrum and bclck which doesn't work. even if you try 101 it takes it literally like 8 min to boot. You will think you bricked your system, so pretty much useless. But with a noctua d15s I'm getting close to 4.5 on 2 cores boost on a 3800X and used the ryzen dram calc to get my ballistix memory to 3666 but comparing my memory bandwidth with some other guys on hardocp forum my system is a little slower but in the ballpark. Plus chipset fan is in a horrible location if you use a full size card and runs really hot all the time. So hopefully it lasts. Kinda worries me.
@@7thaifaaleraqi258 oh and I get best cpu clocks leaving most all cpu stuff stock and another thing I don't like is no matter what I have it set at it seems like it always wants to hit 1.5V that scares me too. Plus temps are all over the place, will jump 10c within a second and bounces all over. Never had a chip do that before, so idk.
trance dj what about the msi mag tomhawk wifi ? Bcz i am new to pc stuff and i cant differentiate between motherboards good
Thanks a lot for your efforts and making such informative suggestions for us. We appreciate a lot.
Why would people put a 3900X cpu on these boards? I would think these boards were made for, at most 3700X...
Finally somebody said!
it I think these boards any of them will be fine with an 6 or 8 core
Just take the b450 tomahawk max, it's insane value for under 100$ and pci4.0 is unnecessary for 99,9%, because it doesn't boost graphics cards at all and pci4.0 ssds are insanely expensive.
Much like the situation when the first ssd came forward, those things really were expensive at a miniscule capacity while boasting a tremendous speed over consumer's better mechanical hdd... Situations going to a better after a year.. Or so I thought...
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With my MSI X470 Gaming Pro Carbon exploding, and MSI sending me a DoA refurb, as is tradition for them going back even 15 years, I was in the market for a new board and all the prices in Canada are absolutely disgusting. So I was thinking about getting the cheapest one with the amount of ports I need (and non-trash BIOS), that would be the TUF Gaming X570 at $239 ($25 off). I was really hesitant about such a bare-bones board with such poor looking heatsinks from a series with a bad reputation.
This video is a nice relief, I'll be buying this board tomorrow. Keep up the good work, said the guy 4 months late.
I ordered the TUF board, supposed to be here tomorrow. Looks like I made the right choice after watching buildzoid talk about it last week. This video scared me at first when it read ONE SUCKS lol.
oh crap I just bought one of these motherboards! I hope it wasn't the sucky one lets find out!
Edit: Crap It was the MSI board I got. Hopefully the thermals will be okay for a 3700x
second Edit: The Mother board was DOA I have been given a chance to correct my mistake
me too but with the 3900x 😅
Why is NO one covering the fan noise of those little monsters on these boards?
if you're an MSI fan forget the board in this vid and check out the MEG X570 UNIFY it came out after this vid and after people found out how bad the MPG EDGE was.
Really helpful. I was looking at this MSI. Obviously not anymore lol. Good review and report 😎👍