Real talk, but kinda off topic: Jedi Survivor made me appreciate the Jequels out there that start with all your endgame skills from the last game and it just adds more skills that fit seamlessly
@@ConLLeeGame is currently 25% off on Steam, do you think it’s fixed enough to warrant picking up? I noticed it got a patch over a week ago, don’t know how much that fixed though.
As someone who played botw, I thought that the tutorial did a good job of forcing me to use the new abilities, particularly ultrahand and ascend, instead of relying on the paraglider and 3 stamina wheels
I think it's just unfortunately unavoidable that the tutorial feels like a slog to BOTW players because we're so used to the core mechanics and if you've played BOTW you probably played it for upwards of 40 hours, and you're already used to having many hearts and stamina and the paraglider. And when you come to Tears, you loose all that for the sake of a new game, but the problem is the base game is basically the same, and the game forces you to relearn everything because it has to accomodate for new players. That's why it feels like a slog.. A game where it actually works is somethin like God of War 2 and 3.. when you go from 2 to 3 you loose all the health and upgrades and what not at the start, but it never feels like you're ripped off or boring to go through the tutorial because the game's completely different with new levels and platforming designed for a completely new game.
this is a really really good point and I think it’s ultimately how I felt too. Honestly I think a big turning point I didn’t mention in this video was getting Ascend. That shit changed my entire view of the world more than anything else 😮
I have about 500 hours in botw and I fuckin loved the totk tutorial. I liked that it takes everything away. Does it feel not good to have no stamina. But because of that, you learn that you don't really need stamina to get around. You have so many other options and that's it teaches you. The first 20 hours or so was some of the most amazing ah ha moments I've ever had in games. I wouldn't rate totk as my favorite Zelda game, but holy fuck I had an amazing experience with it
I came into ToTK with over 200 hours sunk into BoTW, and one of my favorite things to do in the latter game was screwing around to see what the physics engine would let me get away with. So immediately after getting Ultrahand, I went out of my way to start stapling trees together to bypass as much of the level design as I could. It was obvious that you were supposed to go in a sort of counter-clockwise direction around the islands, which would naturally introduce you to all the mechanics you needed to learn along the way, and my approach of disregarding the designer's intended direction felt really empowering at first. I felt like "Oh yeah, I know Breath of the Wild, I get what they're going for," and I just did my own thing. It wasn't until I started a new save (so all I wanted to do was get off the islands as fast as possible) that I realized how much vital information I unintentionally skipped over. That's kinda the paradox of the freedom this game gives you. It wants you to be able to do your own thing whenever you want, but it also has a story that it wants to tell, and it tries railroading players into the direction they need to go. I've talked to a surprising number of people who accidentally went HOURS without the Paraglider because they thought "Eh, I'll do the main questline stuff later."
I was one of those paraglider-less people I was very confused when I came across a shrine that required a paraglider and I therefore couldnt complete it
I never understand why people try as hard to skip things, I just paid attention to the biggest clues they were giving me for the first 50ish hours, now I'm just doing my own thing knowing all I have left to do is find and kill ganon
@@TheEthernyI agree, people shouldn’t skip the paraglider, towers, and information on how to actually get any new abilities. However, I think it is a bad design decision to lock a vital ability in the depths after insisting and showing you through a tutorial quest on how it’s very dangerous.
I missed the paraglider for a good while because I thought lookout landing was some huge monster fort when I saw it from overhead and I decided not to go near it until I had a good stock of weapons lmao.
@@TheEtherny There's nothing more liberating in a video game than breaking the rules. It's a big reason why people love speedruns and sequence breaks- because they're watching people "break the rules" of their favorite games. Skipping things can just be fun sometimes.
So wholesome seeing you having such an in-depth conversation with your brother. All those viewpoints of his you’ve shared coming through irl is so cool to watch. You really can tell that games and the differing experiences you two have spent years comparing is a special part of your relationship. Would love to see additional conversations on other types of games.
i love that i can have jaquan the jequel videos on in the background, as if they were a podcast, while i do other things on my computer. thanks jakey, thanks isaac
The great plateau was a much more interesting tutorial area to explore, but the mechanics in TOTK are more interesting and I spent a lot of time experimenting with those on the Great Sky Island.
i was a fan of the tutorial island. it has plenty to explore while still in a very controlled environment. It gave a me a hint of how navigating in the rest of the game was gonna work, especially with it being so different from botw in terms of mechanics the main island helped me climatize.
Sly 2 and Sly 3 for PS2 had the most memorably good game tutorials, where it dropped you into a mission and then let you get through a pared down mission with Bently telling you exactly what actions you needed to do. I also appreciated how it was still relevant to the story as well, and it wasnt just throwaway practice
Eh, they still want you to "break it" in ways they intended, they removed a lot of fun bugs from botw like whistle sprinting or bullet time bounces and many more. Of course players discovered new bugs that are even more powerful but I don't really get why they removed that and took that freedom away, not like these "bugs" were interfering with normal play of casual players, it was just a fuck you to people who knew those tricks and wanted to use them. And also they immediately removed some totk specific bugs that were discovered right after release so they really don't want you to break it, they want you to exploit the intended mechanics in fun ways but to not go way beyond the intended use.
@@bass-tonesthey patched out some, but they’ve still got like three of the infinite money glitches. i did the frozen meat trick literally last night on 1.1.2
@@januszkurahenowski2860you're annoyed that they fixed bugs for the sequal? Of course they did. Game companies should fix bugs for their games. And eventually Nintendo will stop and that's when the speedrunners are going to find new fun stuff.
@@Nojnoj If a bug never manifests in normal play and doesn't ruin the experience and just offers some new fun mechanic fixing it is a fuck you to a certain part of the community in my opinion. If people like something the company didn't anticipate they should leave it be and it's my opinion. Other companies don't do that if a glitch is famous in speedrunning and doesn't affect the normal play negatively in other ways, it's literally just Nintendo being insanely possessive of their games.
As someone who played BOTW, I found the sky Island to be a good time. Very nice too since I hadn't played BOTW in years, so a lot of the skills I gained had rusted and needed to be relearned. One thing I will say that I noticed is that the sky island was more linear, imo compared to the great plateau. TOTK very much pushes you to the ultrahand shrine first, then fuse -> ascend -> recall, whereas the shrines on the great plateau can be done in basically any order. Playing it did feel a little wierd considering how open the rest of the game is. One last thing I'll mention is I'm not afflicted with Goopy Goblin Gamer Brain (tm) as much as others, so learning little story bits about the goat ghost (goatst?), the robo-homies, and the robo-not-homies was also fun for me.
I didn't play BOTW, so this was all fresh for me. I got really hooked on the exploration, it reminded me of playing Elden Ring, where I was so immersed in the world and wanted to explore all the places, find everything hidden, etc. So I actually really enjoyed the tutorial on the sky island and tried to explore everything there - the limited stamina and tools actually made it even better in my mind because you were forced to find solutions with ultrahand, ascend, or taking one of those wing gliders. I love how the world is full of things to find, sure, it's not always super good stuff, but through the fusion and cooking mechanics, I never felt any item was useless. And even if it's just a Korok under a rock, the incentive to explore is strong for me. That being said, a huge part of it for me is just seeing the world, and if I had played BOTW, I'm not sure how excited I would be to revisit the places in Hyrule that are more or less the same. Now I just want someone to take the best elements from Elden Ring and TOTK and fuse them into the best game ever made haha love your work jakey, keep it up!
Having played both games, I actually adore how they reused the map and have had a hugely positive experience. Major landmarks such as stables and towns are in the same place but all the fast travel and item locations are different. It creates a sense of nostalgia for the past game and excitement to revisit places and characters that you once enjoyed. They also added the sky and depths maps so nobody feels cheaped out with no all-new maps.
Problem with TOTK is I would’ve described my love for BOTW in the exact same way you described TOTK. So TOTK did not hit anywhere close to as hard as BOTW, as I had essentially played the game before
As someone who played botw, i willingly spent four hours fucking around on the first sky island because i was having so much fun 😂 not having the paraglider made navigating the island much more of a puzzle than i was used to
The great plateau and the starting sky island are some of my favourite memories from BotW and TotK. At some point you get a large enough stamina wheel to just jump up any cliff that you come across, or in TotK, you get enough parts/zoanite to make a vehicle to fly up. The start is where I feel my ability to solve problems in unique ways is put to the test. There aren't any really difficult parts, but I love seeing a higher island and thinking "Hm, I know I'm not supposed to be able to get up there, but I WILL get up there." Making long columns of trees stuck together that I thread through the geometry of the buildings to give myself a bridge to cross gaps, whatever it is, I find it extremely rewarding, and it's a level of challenge that I feel the further into the game you are the less you'll come across it.
As someone who played BotW five times before TotK, I actually found the tutorial in TotK to be my favorite part of the game. It’s the only part of the game that actually feels like a new experience with new content, and everything after you leave the sky islands just feels like more breath of the wild (which already has its own issues with repetitiveness).
I've been hoping you do a full video on Tears of the Kingdom. I hope you can finish the game someday, and get to fully experience the story and everything in between. Love you always.
I actually loved the Great Sky Island. The inability to glide and lack of stamina wheel basically forced me to use the new abilities and building mechanics. It felt like a guided experience with somewhat open areas. It was honestly one of my favorite sequences of all games I've played.
The most excited part for me was their chance at making a far better story, yet i still made the mistake of wanting to do a lot of stuff before i even tackled the story. After getting the quest to explore the different regions i started to grind shrines and the depths and it slowed my playthrough a ton, i barely played any maybe 1 or 2 hours a day at best and I was really bored really fast but then after doing enough i finally tackled the story and its definitely the better experience for me, but as i kept going into the story it also started to just feel off? The fact that there's regions locked by story or spoiled by story since you can view memories out of order, really hampered the experience imo. A lot feels like i was chasing the high of botw's first experience and it obviously can't stop it but it didn't even come close for me, the sky wasn't the most eye popping locals i thought it could be, the depths came close until you explore for more than an hour.
I think being made weak at the beginning of the game forced me to interact with the Zonai items more and to learn about fusions as opposed to just climbing and gliding everywhere like I normally would
Nobody is going to see this but I've only played BoTW and not tears of the kingdom. I found the tutorial incredibly slow. I wanted to explore but I felt that I was actively being told not to due to not having completed the tutorial.
Coming from a guy who is at 100+ hours at Zelda, I can just say that the Great Sky Island barely scratches the surface of what you can do in the rest of the game. Totk solves EVERY problem I had with Botw, the dungeons and puzzles are a lot more inspired, the atmosphere and music are out of this world like the old Zeldas, and the new powers create so many fun situations that will make you smile from one ear to another. And the things that Breath did well are also improved in here, so just keep playing the game and go back to talk to your brother when you are finished Jakey, you will love it! Hugs from Brazil🇧🇷
Hmm, I really don’t think TOTK solved many of BOTW’s main issues at all personally. And I think it’s atmosphere and tone are all over the place and don’t make a lot of sense in the context of the world, contrary to BOTW where everything felt natural.
@@sterloinno I think it worked well. Every gameplay issue BOTW had in TOTK is fixed and I the tone is dependent on what you are doing and where you are so it doesn’t matter. The only thing TOTK didn’t improve on is the story but no one plays Zelda for the plot.
I liked the tutorial in Totk. Ultrahand really allowed people to play and proceed through it in many different ways. Seeing all the different Twitch clips of people overcoming the same obstacles in different ways was so funny.
Having played and LOVED my time with BOTW, TOTK feels like a step up. The new mechanics have been fun to play with, the world feels like I'll always be finding cool shit to interact with, and it's just so nice to be back in this world. I do agree the tutorial went on just a tad long, but it felt like that for a reason. Building vehicles and using the Zonai devices (a major aspect of gameplay once the main story kicks in) was very critical to learn. I'm about 50+ hours in and can't wait to keep going. As much as I want to play Diablo 4, all my gametime has been focused on TOTK.
I did not play BOTW and I voluntarily spent about 12 hours on the tutorial island. I could have gotten off much sooner but I wanted to explore as much of that place as I could. I wanted to familiarize myself with things as best as I could before I took off into the world. Right now I am about 120 hours in and I have not done any story stuff past completing the 4 phenomena. I absolutely love this game
I started the tutorial literally as quickly as I could-starting the game the moment Nintendo unlocked it on my Switch. Took off vacation time to play the game, so was free to play from 12am-3:30am opening day. Was weird playing something that felt so intimately familiar, but with totally refreshed nervousness running around these platforms without a mental-map and no paraglider! It took me a long time to get through the tutorial that night, but it didn’t personally feel like a slog to me 🙂
The tutorial was mostly a slog for me, but there were moments that got me excited, like gliding thru the sky on the Zonai gliders, and building a makeshift gondola with Ultrahand
The tutorial was a slog after getting ascend but before that the tutorial area was better than half the game. In my opinion of course. I only played half of BOTW and killed ganon, got bored partway through and never went back, so maybe my freshness to the botw recipe helped. Worst part is the death mountain main quest content, mainly due to the switch's technical limitations and running at 15fps.
I don't remember the tutorial all that much after my 200 hrs playthrough, but one thing I do remember from the beginning of the game is that it felt like they took foreveeeer to give you the glider. Also I took a shameful amount of time to find Heistu for the first time lol
I also agree that the tutorial is so slow feeling because you can see below you that there’s so much out there, but not only that there’s tons of sky islands you can see but not reach. That opening with ganoncorpse tho. Had a hot boy making cream soda in my pajamas
I played (and casually speedran) botw and honestly, the tutorial sky island was SO fun for me, I just really enjoyed exploring something new and having those same sorts of "woah, holy shit" moments I had during my first playthrough of botw, which was something I was honestly scared it couldn't produce. But imo it delivered
I liked the intro well enough. My excitement actually dwindled once I landed back on hyrule. I spent like 30 minutes building a car, and that was probably one of my favorite moments. But of course it wouldn't work well (or save my build) and that's when I realized it was time to do a lot of walking in areas I'd been before.
As "that friend" who tends to know mechanics and lore and such, it's nice to hear you talk about how valuable it is having someone like that. I've been teaching a friend and on and off how to play Project Zomboid since she's new to it and it's nice to just be there when someone has questions. Thanks for the video, both of you!
Man, i fucking love this game. I haven't really been able to get back into games FULLY in a long time. I can't even say im halfway through, yet i am FULLY into this fucking shit like its crazy. I feel like Nintendo really made something nearly flawless for me as a gamer, and i can't wait to keep playing and explore every single inch of this game
Love this style of video, a relaxed, compelling and in depth conversation about games between two gators who obviously love them deeply. Hoping more like this comes soon :) PS: I liked the pretzel analogy
As someone that really enjoyed Breath of the Wild, I thought the tutorial was long, but enjoyable. I enjoyed the shrines and some of the buildup or aftermath of the shrines, like trying to climb the snowy mountain, using the zonai gliders, and using the minecarts. The slowness was usually the inbetween, and I think it’s because it isn’t as hand holdy as BOTW’s tutorial by not marking where the shrines are. On one hand it lets you use the new abilities you get and be more creative, but it does cause it to drag a bit as you continue. Thankfully the game picks up after the tutorial and I’m loving it!
I didn't like the TOTK tutorial because not only is it long, but restrictive as all hell, but it also doesn't nearly give you as many tools I really hate how TOTKs tools are hidden behind fetch quest walls, it's insane For story + gameplay I adore Kid Icarus Uprising for the 3DS
I loved the way I was encouraged to find my own way around it. like on the icy mountain up to the ascend shrine, I didn't wanna mess with making bridges across all the waterfalls, so I searched for a way to climb up and found it. outside of that, I think it does a great job of transitioning botw players into the mindset required for totk of making your own solutions to problems with these new abilities.
Having played BOTW first, I was super excited to see what new stuff tears of the kingdom would introduce so I absolutely loved the tutorial area. It’s a completely new Zelda experience that feels like they’ve finally met the potential Skyward Sword’s introduced with its sky islands. Once you leave the area and the game becomes BOTW 2 I was a little disappointed, but I’m glad I got the experience I did for the intro area.
I played breath of the wild, enjoyed it a lot. With this newer game i felt that the tutorial was not slow for me, maybe because im easily entertained but even though i knew i was limited compared to the end of the last game i still enjoyed the challange of trying to make goofy shit/enjoyable gameplay moments happen within the limits presented. Again maybe I'm just easily entertained or that i completed the tutorial over the span of a couple days which allowed me to not become bored, i did genuinely enjoy all of it.
This is absolutely wonderful tbh! I usually don’t have time to consume a 2-4 hour podcast, and these videos feel just like that. A bite sized version podcast that I can sit down here with you and enjoy takes and topics, thank you Jakey!
I’ve replayed BotW multiple times (it is my favorite game of all time. Used to be Wind Waker). I thought both tutorials were fantastic but idk… I guess there’s a switch that flips in my head when I get to tutorials where I want to learn and experiment in a little more of a controlled environment before everything is turned loose. I think I feel this bc it’s very easy for me to get overwhelmed if a game just drops me in and says “K bye!” And the tutorials for both of these games don’t necessarily feel like the info dump in most games. It feels like a part of progression (which I value heavily in games) even when I know how great life is with max stamina and paraglider. Just my thoughts. Loved listening to y’all chat about this amazing (in my opinion) game!!
there was a point in the tutorial where i went okay ill rush this along a little my favorite part of it was just the excitement at the possibilities and creativity the game was going to allow me with crafting whatever i want
Hell yeah to the return of Jaquan. This was such a comfy video, feels like a conversation you could've had with your brother without there even being a camera in the room. Agree with a lot of your talking points too. Destiny 2 is a game I absolutely love the gunplay of and the second to second combat but I can never go back to because of the money investment needed to play the new content.
I liked BOTW enough when it came out but over the years I've sort of grown to hate it. As a long time Zelda fan, I really didn't like how much they took away from the Zelda formula like dungeons, music etc. This game though I think is incredible, it addressed a lot of the problems I had with BOTW and brought back some familiar Zelda elements that I loved. And honestly I still think my problems with BOTW are valid. Like has a Zelda game ever been completely replaced before? There is no need to go back to BOTW, TOTK is just that game but better in every way. And to answer your question about the tutorial, I really liked it. I spent a lot of time just messing around with the Ultrahand just to get a feel for it, and I think not having access to the paraglider kind of pushes players to do this.
I would say that the ToTK tutorial did really well, except for drilling into my head just how often the ascend ability would come into play. I cant tell you how many times I came to an environment, or a shrine puzzle, and believed I was stuck, or that i had to build a way out of my predicament, only to remember a couple minutes later, that I had the ability to move directly up from where I was. Other than that, I would say the tutorial did a great job in hammering home the abilities given.
as someone who played botw i really was entertained because of how you needed to use your abilities in the great island to reach other shrines. in botw the runes you get will only matter in the shrine but in totk for getting to the second shrine you should build something otherwise you couldn't and it help more to figure how the abilities work
weirdly your discussion about the tutorial reminds me of how I felt when I first played OOT. I was maybe 10 years old and got really impatient with the intro in Kokiri Forest and jumped ship maybe even before I got the sword. Like 2 years later I came back to it on the fancy ass GameCube collectors edition and loved it. I haven’t played TOTK or BOTW yet (except very briefly at friend’s houses) but I can appreciate the frustration of wanting to break through into the game and find the magic of the game that has so many people enchanted. peace love n kiss jaquuuuuaaaaaaaaaaaan
I've never played the Zelda titles before Ocarina of Time, but I have played every one since then. In this one I was far more interested in the new build mechanics. I also love how they put things in place that helped some of the pain points from the previous game. Like rain, you can make potions or get a suit. I also loved how you can glide everywhere using the towers, I barely used a horse. I just glided, plus when the the debris fall from the sky, I would almost always ran up to it to reverse time and glide. Overall i liked the game. I think the Temples were a little on the easy side compared to OOC or Twilight Princess. It feels more like an expansion pack than a sequel in a lot of ways, I'm not sure if that's good or bad.
Pretty sure that's how the development started. They started it as an expansion but quickly realized they had wayy too many ideas to fit into an expansion, so they just made a sequel instead.
I kind of like the part of botw/totk where you don't have all your abilities. It creates interesting problem solving opportunities like cutting down a tree to cross a ravine. Once you get the glider you can just glide across that ravine, and overcoming any obstacle becomes a bit mindless
I love videos like this, and would definitely be interested in hearing your thoughts on Tears of the Kingdom once you finish that and the same goes for Final Fantasy 16. Not trying to defend it, but as someone who’s played FF14 for the last 2 years and is caught up on the story/expansions, they definitely take their time letting their story and characters get fleshed out and it’s not just because 14 is an MMO. It genuinely allows these big climactic and emotional moments build up properly so that there is an emotional payoff. That being said, I could totally understand the opening of the game being jarring to someone who isn’t used to this team or just isn’t interested, especially the part about walking a little bit and then getting a cutscene. The good thing is that you can skip the cutscenes if you so please :)
The tutorial bit was actually me in BotW. I stopped after like 10 hours, barely got to Necluda and didn't play it for like 2 years until TotK was coming out. These games have definitely had lengthy tutorial areas.
I do think it's really neat after just finishing my watch of your entire original channel for the first time and seeing smaller you interacting with people in the comments to not being able to just because of the sheer size of your growth; coming here and seeing your smaller second channel and you interacting with people who comment. I absolutely admire how you are unapologetically yourself Jaquan and haven't changed as a content creator (aside from production quality and format) even coming from the first Games That Should Bang back in 2017 to now.
the path of exile campaign is seen as a sort of tutorial by experienced players because the amount of content you gain access to after the campaign is MASSIVE. it really just sort of throws you into it too
I think you've naturally landed on such a great format for this side channel. Just turning the camera on and talking naturally in a way that's genuine but generally unplanned, about certain things but no real solid point or final conclusion. A casual discussion - like a podcast, but instead just it's own simple thing. I'm not a massive fan of the whole parasocial relationship thing youtube creates but this does feel like a relaxing chat that I'd have with some friends or my brother. I wondered since you did mention the comments if you'd ever make a discord or something where people could discuss stuff, i know that takes moderating and annoying shit like that, i guess the comment section is already perfect for discussion.
thank u jakey and isaac, i was hoping for a video on this channel about totk at some point. even though i put a decent chunk of time into breath of the wild, the totk tutorial didn't feel like a slog. it felt great to be in the zelda world again and to figure out the new abilities, even if it meant starting at square one. I kept forgetting I didn't have the paraglider for the first hour or so, which forced me to use ascend and ultrahand to build bridges and use zany ass ways to gain height. getting players to look up in games is notoriously hard, but ascend gave me an extra option of verticality which is super cool!!!
I played BotW and honestly loved the TotK tutorial. Personally, my one big issue was that they gave you Hyrule before the paraglider. I think it makes a lot more sense to give you all your exploration tools BEFORE giving you the areas to explore.
@E-Bizzy Yeah it seems odd considering how long the tutorial was. I avoided all TotK trailers and coverage because I wanted to play it blind, and I honestly thought they got rid of it lol. I really can't rationalize that decision.
This video is so lovely and fascinating! I love hearing y’all talk about your thoughts and feelings surrounding something that I’m so passionate about. As someone who loves the Burback channel incessantly, I’m doubly excited to see Jakey bringing in his bro for this vid! There’s something so special about the sibling dynamic, that love and respect and camaraderie that certainly exists in other relationships in a person’s life, but rarely with such ease and comfort. This conversation feels like a glimpse into one of the safest and most real parts of your life. I’m grateful for the vulnerability that comes with sharing something like this with such a big audience. I appreciate the parasocial bond that you give us space to create with you, Jakey. I hope it makes you happy.
Tears of the kingdom was my first ever Zelda game and Im 35. I quite enjoyed the tutorial and the way the game literally just throws you off a cliff after giving you the necessary skills. A true sandbox game!
As far as the tutorial goes, the sense of aesthetic discovery is what carried me through. Look at all these weird little guys! What are they about? The color scheme, etc. reminded me a lot of what you said about Halo 3 in another video. Super warm and inviting, somehow.
I love this! Two bros sitting and talking about gaming and aspects that you enjoy. I especially agree on tutorials islands in games and wish that they could be skipped after you’ve played through them once. I just want to get to the action!!!
Casual gamer here! I really enjoyed it as a slow introduction into how all the new abilities worked! Also being able to find clothing pieces early on in the island was great
I found the tutorial great because you had one objective and then some cutscenes - rinse and repeat a couple of times. It was when it opened up and there were loads of things to do that I got overwhelmed and haven’t gone back to it I completed breath of the wild so I’ll likely go back when I’m more in mood for it but yeah my experience was kind of backwards
First thought in the opening section, seeing that bombable rock, was that Link goes into this obviously dangerous pit was he forgot all his equipment. That being said, I did like the game. The story was very good, can't wait until you finish it.
I played a good amount of BotW and I loved how the sandbox could be used in a variety of ways in the player's favor. TotK's tutorial got my mind thinking of the potential that the powers had and that was pretty cool.
im like suuuper biased because loz has been a hyperfixation of mine for as long as i can remember, but totk met and exceeded all expectations to me. i played sooo much botw so i knew what to expect and what i wanted from it. its just incredible how much this game made me feel- it was so much deaper and left me sobbing at times. maybe its because im a different person now than when i played botw, but im so glad i pushed thru the tut and explored. i did every possible side quest in the game, every shrine, korok, and cave. finally finished the other night and i was so emotional. the ending to botw always underwhelmed me, but the whole last hour of tears had me bawling. its genuinley so beautiful and im starting to tear up now. sure there are flaws, but they dont matter at all when i think of this game and how it makes me feel. i wish i could experience it again for the first time
I’ve played literally every Zelda game to completion and I am somebody who hates lengthy drawn out tutorials. The tutorial for TotK got me completely immersed in the world, made me feel like I was a master of the new abilities and had me completely captivated with my imagination (in regards to what I can do with these powers) in ways that few games ever have. As somebody who was drawn to prioritise the story in Botw and ignore the wider world, this tutorial is to blame for me spending 60 hours in TotK and only then realising “I should probably start the story on this thing”
I never really thought about the flaws of the starting Island. I think personally my excitement for the game and the sheer spectacle was enough for me not to bat an eye.
Currently doing my first BOTW playthrough with my girl. First Zelda game I've ever played properly. Can't wait to move onto TOTK also more chill ass shit like this please. really calming
I actually enjoyed the slow nature of the game's start. It felt very organic, with Link basically going caveman and working his way back to his normal status. This is something other games have toyed with: how does Link become Link? But it was always very quick and then you were in a silly tunic. This game felt to me very immersive. And I also like how everyone in the world remembers who you are. No one seems to forget that you saved the world only a few years earlier.
As a longtime viewer of your channel seeing THE brother Isaac is like seeing a celebrity, wow.
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Real talk, but kinda off topic: Jedi Survivor made me appreciate the Jequels out there that start with all your endgame skills from the last game and it just adds more skills that fit seamlessly
Sucks that game came out too early because they really did everything right. Just still doesn’t perform very well
i feel like I'm the only person that misses the abilities from the champions in BOTW (especially revali's gale), as well as stasis and cryonosis
@@ConLLee don't worry, I'm sure when Jedi Survivor GOTY final (final) [fixed] edition comes out, there'll be a Turgle plushie for everyone.
@@ConLLeeGame is currently 25% off on Steam, do you think it’s fixed enough to warrant picking up?
I noticed it got a patch over a week ago, don’t know how much that fixed though.
@@SmoothTurtle840not much
As someone who played botw, I thought that the tutorial did a good job of forcing me to use the new abilities, particularly ultrahand and ascend, instead of relying on the paraglider and 3 stamina wheels
I think it's just unfortunately unavoidable that the tutorial feels like a slog to BOTW players because we're so used to the core mechanics and if you've played BOTW you probably played it for upwards of 40 hours, and you're already used to having many hearts and stamina and the paraglider. And when you come to Tears, you loose all that for the sake of a new game, but the problem is the base game is basically the same, and the game forces you to relearn everything because it has to accomodate for new players. That's why it feels like a slog..
A game where it actually works is somethin like God of War 2 and 3.. when you go from 2 to 3 you loose all the health and upgrades and what not at the start, but it never feels like you're ripped off or boring to go through the tutorial because the game's completely different with new levels and platforming designed for a completely new game.
I agree
Right this tutorial was amazing.
this is a really really good point and I think it’s ultimately how I felt too. Honestly I think a big turning point I didn’t mention in this video was getting Ascend. That shit changed my entire view of the world more than anything else 😮
I have about 500 hours in botw and I fuckin loved the totk tutorial. I liked that it takes everything away. Does it feel not good to have no stamina.
But because of that, you learn that you don't really need stamina to get around. You have so many other options and that's it teaches you.
The first 20 hours or so was some of the most amazing ah ha moments I've ever had in games. I wouldn't rate totk as my favorite Zelda game, but holy fuck I had an amazing experience with it
I came into ToTK with over 200 hours sunk into BoTW, and one of my favorite things to do in the latter game was screwing around to see what the physics engine would let me get away with. So immediately after getting Ultrahand, I went out of my way to start stapling trees together to bypass as much of the level design as I could.
It was obvious that you were supposed to go in a sort of counter-clockwise direction around the islands, which would naturally introduce you to all the mechanics you needed to learn along the way, and my approach of disregarding the designer's intended direction felt really empowering at first. I felt like "Oh yeah, I know Breath of the Wild, I get what they're going for," and I just did my own thing. It wasn't until I started a new save (so all I wanted to do was get off the islands as fast as possible) that I realized how much vital information I unintentionally skipped over.
That's kinda the paradox of the freedom this game gives you. It wants you to be able to do your own thing whenever you want, but it also has a story that it wants to tell, and it tries railroading players into the direction they need to go. I've talked to a surprising number of people who accidentally went HOURS without the Paraglider because they thought "Eh, I'll do the main questline stuff later."
I was one of those paraglider-less people
I was very confused when I came across a shrine that required a paraglider and I therefore couldnt complete it
I never understand why people try as hard to skip things, I just paid attention to the biggest clues they were giving me for the first 50ish hours, now I'm just doing my own thing knowing all I have left to do is find and kill ganon
@@TheEthernyI agree, people shouldn’t skip the paraglider, towers, and information on how to actually get any new abilities. However, I think it is a bad design decision to lock a vital ability in the depths after insisting and showing you through a tutorial quest on how it’s very dangerous.
I missed the paraglider for a good while because I thought lookout landing was some huge monster fort when I saw it from overhead and I decided not to go near it until I had a good stock of weapons lmao.
@@TheEtherny There's nothing more liberating in a video game than breaking the rules. It's a big reason why people love speedruns and sequence breaks- because they're watching people "break the rules" of their favorite games. Skipping things can just be fun sometimes.
So wholesome seeing you having such an in-depth conversation with your brother. All those viewpoints of his you’ve shared coming through irl is so cool to watch. You really can tell that games and the differing experiences you two have spent years comparing is a special part of your relationship. Would love to see additional conversations on other types of games.
I would love to see more conversations
i love that i can have jaquan the jequel videos on in the background, as if they were a podcast, while i do other things on my computer. thanks jakey, thanks isaac
Same
Would love to see more from this channel, I really adore the vibe of just shooting the sh*t about some games and talking first impressions
I agree
Yo, it's Fel the world famous pick & poker pioneer.
Fancy seeing you here Fel 👋
@@JustSnowglow guilty as charged!
@@mewmanc6188 yo what’s good my guy, happy to see the Zelda appreciation from the Souls Squad 😊
We missed you Jaquan!!❤
The great plateau was a much more interesting tutorial area to explore, but the mechanics in TOTK are more interesting and I spent a lot of time experimenting with those on the Great Sky Island.
i was a fan of the tutorial island. it has plenty to explore while still in a very controlled environment. It gave a me a hint of how navigating in the rest of the game was gonna work, especially with it being so different from botw in terms of mechanics the main island helped me climatize.
Sly 2 and Sly 3 for PS2 had the most memorably good game tutorials, where it dropped you into a mission and then let you get through a pared down mission with Bently telling you exactly what actions you needed to do. I also appreciated how it was still relevant to the story as well, and it wasnt just throwaway practice
Whoa someone brought up one of my favorite game series ❤️
I love that this game lets you break it and doesnt care if you do so.
Idk, they were pretty quick to patch out all of the “bugs” that imo made the game way more enjoyable. They apparently care to some degree.
Eh, they still want you to "break it" in ways they intended, they removed a lot of fun bugs from botw like whistle sprinting or bullet time bounces and many more. Of course players discovered new bugs that are even more powerful but I don't really get why they removed that and took that freedom away, not like these "bugs" were interfering with normal play of casual players, it was just a fuck you to people who knew those tricks and wanted to use them. And also they immediately removed some totk specific bugs that were discovered right after release so they really don't want you to break it, they want you to exploit the intended mechanics in fun ways but to not go way beyond the intended use.
@@bass-tonesthey patched out some, but they’ve still got like three of the infinite money glitches. i did the frozen meat trick literally last night on 1.1.2
@@januszkurahenowski2860you're annoyed that they fixed bugs for the sequal? Of course they did. Game companies should fix bugs for their games. And eventually Nintendo will stop and that's when the speedrunners are going to find new fun stuff.
@@Nojnoj If a bug never manifests in normal play and doesn't ruin the experience and just offers some new fun mechanic fixing it is a fuck you to a certain part of the community in my opinion. If people like something the company didn't anticipate they should leave it be and it's my opinion. Other companies don't do that if a glitch is famous in speedrunning and doesn't affect the normal play negatively in other ways, it's literally just Nintendo being insanely possessive of their games.
As someone who played BOTW, I found the sky Island to be a good time. Very nice too since I hadn't played BOTW in years, so a lot of the skills I gained had rusted and needed to be relearned.
One thing I will say that I noticed is that the sky island was more linear, imo compared to the great plateau. TOTK very much pushes you to the ultrahand shrine first, then fuse -> ascend -> recall, whereas the shrines on the great plateau can be done in basically any order. Playing it did feel a little wierd considering how open the rest of the game is.
One last thing I'll mention is I'm not afflicted with Goopy Goblin Gamer Brain (tm) as much as others, so learning little story bits about the goat ghost (goatst?), the robo-homies, and the robo-not-homies was also fun for me.
GOATST
@@scrim1784RAURU IS GOATSTED
Straight up, I'd watch content like this any day and twice on Tuesday
I didn't play BOTW, so this was all fresh for me. I got really hooked on the exploration, it reminded me of playing Elden Ring, where I was so immersed in the world and wanted to explore all the places, find everything hidden, etc. So I actually really enjoyed the tutorial on the sky island and tried to explore everything there - the limited stamina and tools actually made it even better in my mind because you were forced to find solutions with ultrahand, ascend, or taking one of those wing gliders. I love how the world is full of things to find, sure, it's not always super good stuff, but through the fusion and cooking mechanics, I never felt any item was useless. And even if it's just a Korok under a rock, the incentive to explore is strong for me. That being said, a huge part of it for me is just seeing the world, and if I had played BOTW, I'm not sure how excited I would be to revisit the places in Hyrule that are more or less the same.
Now I just want someone to take the best elements from Elden Ring and TOTK and fuse them into the best game ever made haha
love your work jakey, keep it up!
Having played both games, I actually adore how they reused the map and have had a hugely positive experience. Major landmarks such as stables and towns are in the same place but all the fast travel and item locations are different. It creates a sense of nostalgia for the past game and excitement to revisit places and characters that you once enjoyed. They also added the sky and depths maps so nobody feels cheaped out with no all-new maps.
"even if it's just a korok under a rock" it's either that or a shrine. Never anything different or exciting
Problem with TOTK is I would’ve described my love for BOTW in the exact same way you described TOTK. So TOTK did not hit anywhere close to as hard as BOTW, as I had essentially played the game before
@@sterloinnah I played both and enough changed to love TOTK even more than BOTW. The game is so good it basically makes BOTW obsolete.
More content from you is always welcomed and enjoyed, thank you jakey and well met Isaac.
As someone who played botw, i willingly spent four hours fucking around on the first sky island because i was having so much fun 😂 not having the paraglider made navigating the island much more of a puzzle than i was used to
The great plateau and the starting sky island are some of my favourite memories from BotW and TotK. At some point you get a large enough stamina wheel to just jump up any cliff that you come across, or in TotK, you get enough parts/zoanite to make a vehicle to fly up. The start is where I feel my ability to solve problems in unique ways is put to the test. There aren't any really difficult parts, but I love seeing a higher island and thinking "Hm, I know I'm not supposed to be able to get up there, but I WILL get up there."
Making long columns of trees stuck together that I thread through the geometry of the buildings to give myself a bridge to cross gaps, whatever it is, I find it extremely rewarding, and it's a level of challenge that I feel the further into the game you are the less you'll come across it.
I love these laid back discussion videos Jakeys been doing lately, and Isaac seems like the ultimate chill big bro
As someone who played BotW five times before TotK, I actually found the tutorial in TotK to be my favorite part of the game. It’s the only part of the game that actually feels like a new experience with new content, and everything after you leave the sky islands just feels like more breath of the wild (which already has its own issues with repetitiveness).
Agreed. Totk is the first zelda game I haven't finished and probably won't. Was so bored after the first 'temple'.
I've been hoping you do a full video on Tears of the Kingdom. I hope you can finish the game someday, and get to fully experience the story and everything in between. Love you always.
I actually loved the Great Sky Island. The inability to glide and lack of stamina wheel basically forced me to use the new abilities and building mechanics. It felt like a guided experience with somewhat open areas. It was honestly one of my favorite sequences of all games I've played.
I agree magical wizard brother💪
The most excited part for me was their chance at making a far better story, yet i still made the mistake of wanting to do a lot of stuff before i even tackled the story. After getting the quest to explore the different regions i started to grind shrines and the depths and it slowed my playthrough a ton, i barely played any maybe 1 or 2 hours a day at best and I was really bored really fast but then after doing enough i finally tackled the story and its definitely the better experience for me, but as i kept going into the story it also started to just feel off? The fact that there's regions locked by story or spoiled by story since you can view memories out of order, really hampered the experience imo. A lot feels like i was chasing the high of botw's first experience and it obviously can't stop it but it didn't even come close for me, the sky wasn't the most eye popping locals i thought it could be, the depths came close until you explore for more than an hour.
I feel like the story is really shallow and feels no less disjointed than the first game
I think being made weak at the beginning of the game forced me to interact with the Zonai items more and to learn about fusions as opposed to just climbing and gliding everywhere like I normally would
Nobody is going to see this but I've only played BoTW and not tears of the kingdom. I found the tutorial incredibly slow. I wanted to explore but I felt that I was actively being told not to due to not having completed the tutorial.
Coming from a guy who is at 100+ hours at Zelda, I can just say that the Great Sky Island barely scratches the surface of what you can do in the rest of the game. Totk solves EVERY problem I had with Botw, the dungeons and puzzles are a lot more inspired, the atmosphere and music are out of this world like the old Zeldas, and the new powers create so many fun situations that will make you smile from one ear to another. And the things that Breath did well are also improved in here, so just keep playing the game and go back to talk to your brother when you are finished Jakey, you will love it!
Hugs from Brazil🇧🇷
Hmm, I really don’t think TOTK solved many of BOTW’s main issues at all personally.
And I think it’s atmosphere and tone are all over the place and don’t make a lot of sense in the context of the world, contrary to BOTW where everything felt natural.
@@sterloinno I think it worked well. Every gameplay issue BOTW had in TOTK is fixed and I the tone is dependent on what you are doing and where you are so it doesn’t matter. The only thing TOTK didn’t improve on is the story but no one plays Zelda for the plot.
I liked the tutorial in Totk. Ultrahand really allowed people to play and proceed through it in many different ways. Seeing all the different Twitch clips of people overcoming the same obstacles in different ways was so funny.
Having played and LOVED my time with BOTW, TOTK feels like a step up. The new mechanics have been fun to play with, the world feels like I'll always be finding cool shit to interact with, and it's just so nice to be back in this world. I do agree the tutorial went on just a tad long, but it felt like that for a reason. Building vehicles and using the Zonai devices (a major aspect of gameplay once the main story kicks in) was very critical to learn. I'm about 50+ hours in and can't wait to keep going. As much as I want to play Diablo 4, all my gametime has been focused on TOTK.
So cool that Jakey's brother is Jacob Geller, small world here on RUclips.
I did not play BOTW and I voluntarily spent about 12 hours on the tutorial island. I could have gotten off much sooner but I wanted to explore as much of that place as I could. I wanted to familiarize myself with things as best as I could before I took off into the world. Right now I am about 120 hours in and I have not done any story stuff past completing the 4 phenomena. I absolutely love this game
I started the tutorial literally as quickly as I could-starting the game the moment Nintendo unlocked it on my Switch. Took off vacation time to play the game, so was free to play from 12am-3:30am opening day. Was weird playing something that felt so intimately familiar, but with totally refreshed nervousness running around these platforms without a mental-map and no paraglider! It took me a long time to get through the tutorial that night, but it didn’t personally feel like a slog to me 🙂
Unlocked it? Goodness, that means they can lock it.
Love this style, and would not be opposed for this format and talking about music😳 I feel like you got a good ear
The tutorial was mostly a slog for me, but there were moments that got me excited, like gliding thru the sky on the Zonai gliders, and building a makeshift gondola with Ultrahand
The tutorial was a slog after getting ascend but before that the tutorial area was better than half the game. In my opinion of course.
I only played half of BOTW and killed ganon, got bored partway through and never went back, so maybe my freshness to the botw recipe helped.
Worst part is the death mountain main quest content, mainly due to the switch's technical limitations and running at 15fps.
I don't remember the tutorial all that much after my 200 hrs playthrough, but one thing I do remember from the beginning of the game is that it felt like they took foreveeeer to give you the glider.
Also I took a shameful amount of time to find Heistu for the first time lol
I also agree that the tutorial is so slow feeling because you can see below you that there’s so much out there, but not only that there’s tons of sky islands you can see but not reach. That opening with ganoncorpse tho. Had a hot boy making cream soda in my pajamas
I played (and casually speedran) botw and honestly, the tutorial sky island was SO fun for me, I just really enjoyed exploring something new and having those same sorts of "woah, holy shit" moments I had during my first playthrough of botw, which was something I was honestly scared it couldn't produce. But imo it delivered
more of this plz thank u jakey
I was feeling really anxious tonight and listening to this helped me calm down. I really appreciate this channel.
I liked the intro well enough. My excitement actually dwindled once I landed back on hyrule. I spent like 30 minutes building a car, and that was probably one of my favorite moments. But of course it wouldn't work well (or save my build) and that's when I realized it was time to do a lot of walking in areas I'd been before.
Okay, this is the single most comfortable video discussion. I genuinely loved you two going back and forth like this. MORE OF THIS PLEASE!!!!
As "that friend" who tends to know mechanics and lore and such, it's nice to hear you talk about how valuable it is having someone like that. I've been teaching a friend and on and off how to play Project Zomboid since she's new to it and it's nice to just be there when someone has questions. Thanks for the video, both of you!
Love to see a new vid here. Brother vibes remind me of Burback channel
Man, i fucking love this game. I haven't really been able to get back into games FULLY in a long time. I can't even say im halfway through, yet i am FULLY into this fucking shit like its crazy. I feel like Nintendo really made something nearly flawless for me as a gamer, and i can't wait to keep playing and explore every single inch of this game
Love this style of video, a relaxed, compelling and in depth conversation about games between two gators who obviously love them deeply. Hoping more like this comes soon :)
PS: I liked the pretzel analogy
As someone that really enjoyed Breath of the Wild, I thought the tutorial was long, but enjoyable. I enjoyed the shrines and some of the buildup or aftermath of the shrines, like trying to climb the snowy mountain, using the zonai gliders, and using the minecarts. The slowness was usually the inbetween, and I think it’s because it isn’t as hand holdy as BOTW’s tutorial by not marking where the shrines are. On one hand it lets you use the new abilities you get and be more creative, but it does cause it to drag a bit as you continue. Thankfully the game picks up after the tutorial and I’m loving it!
I love any amount of Jakey content we’ve been getting recently, keep it up snaked Jacob! :))
I liked the tutorial area! It’s your first brush with the new sky setting, so it didn’t feel like I was re-treading any ground.
I didn't like the TOTK tutorial because not only is it long, but restrictive as all hell, but it also doesn't nearly give you as many tools
I really hate how TOTKs tools are hidden behind fetch quest walls, it's insane
For story + gameplay I adore Kid Icarus Uprising for the 3DS
I loved the way I was encouraged to find my own way around it. like on the icy mountain up to the ascend shrine, I didn't wanna mess with making bridges across all the waterfalls, so I searched for a way to climb up and found it. outside of that, I think it does a great job of transitioning botw players into the mindset required for totk of making your own solutions to problems with these new abilities.
Having played BOTW first, I was super excited to see what new stuff tears of the kingdom would introduce so I absolutely loved the tutorial area. It’s a completely new Zelda experience that feels like they’ve finally met the potential Skyward Sword’s introduced with its sky islands.
Once you leave the area and the game becomes BOTW 2 I was a little disappointed, but I’m glad I got the experience I did for the intro area.
I played breath of the wild, enjoyed it a lot. With this newer game i felt that the tutorial was not slow for me, maybe because im easily entertained but even though i knew i was limited compared to the end of the last game i still enjoyed the challange of trying to make goofy shit/enjoyable gameplay moments happen within the limits presented. Again maybe I'm just easily entertained or that i completed the tutorial over the span of a couple days which allowed me to not become bored, i did genuinely enjoy all of it.
This is absolutely wonderful tbh! I usually don’t have time to consume a 2-4 hour podcast, and these videos feel just like that. A bite sized version podcast that I can sit down here with you and enjoy takes and topics, thank you Jakey!
I’ve replayed BotW multiple times (it is my favorite game of all time. Used to be Wind Waker). I thought both tutorials were fantastic but idk…
I guess there’s a switch that flips in my head when I get to tutorials where I want to learn and experiment in a little more of a controlled environment before everything is turned loose. I think I feel this bc it’s very easy for me to get overwhelmed if a game just drops me in and says “K bye!” And the tutorials for both of these games don’t necessarily feel like the info dump in most games. It feels like a part of progression (which I value heavily in games) even when I know how great life is with max stamina and paraglider.
Just my thoughts. Loved listening to y’all chat about this amazing (in my opinion) game!!
More of this please I love it
there was a point in the tutorial where i went okay ill rush this along a little my favorite part of it was just the excitement at the possibilities and creativity the game was going to allow me with crafting whatever i want
i was instantly enjoying myself, consistently enjoyed myself, and continue to enjoy myself and probably will for a very long time.
I'd love to hear more destiny discussion between you guys!
Hell yeah to the return of Jaquan. This was such a comfy video, feels like a conversation you could've had with your brother without there even being a camera in the room. Agree with a lot of your talking points too. Destiny 2 is a game I absolutely love the gunplay of and the second to second combat but I can never go back to because of the money investment needed to play the new content.
As someone who's not into Zelda whatsoever I appreciate the *_(andmore)._*
Man I wish Jakey would stream playing games with his brother. I would love to see them take on raids or just random missions in destiny
I liked BOTW enough when it came out but over the years I've sort of grown to hate it. As a long time Zelda fan, I really didn't like how much they took away from the Zelda formula like dungeons, music etc. This game though I think is incredible, it addressed a lot of the problems I had with BOTW and brought back some familiar Zelda elements that I loved. And honestly I still think my problems with BOTW are valid. Like has a Zelda game ever been completely replaced before? There is no need to go back to BOTW, TOTK is just that game but better in every way.
And to answer your question about the tutorial, I really liked it. I spent a lot of time just messing around with the Ultrahand just to get a feel for it, and I think not having access to the paraglider kind of pushes players to do this.
I would say that the ToTK tutorial did really well, except for drilling into my head just how often the ascend ability would come into play. I cant tell you how many times I came to an environment, or a shrine puzzle, and believed I was stuck, or that i had to build a way out of my predicament, only to remember a couple minutes later, that I had the ability to move directly up from where I was. Other than that, I would say the tutorial did a great job in hammering home the abilities given.
as someone who played botw i really was entertained because of how you needed to use your abilities in the great island to reach other shrines.
in botw the runes you get will only matter in the shrine but in totk for getting to the second shrine you should build something otherwise you couldn't and it help more to figure how the abilities work
weirdly your discussion about the tutorial reminds me of how I felt when I first played OOT. I was maybe 10 years old and got really impatient with the intro in Kokiri Forest and jumped ship maybe even before I got the sword. Like 2 years later I came back to it on the fancy ass GameCube collectors edition and loved it. I haven’t played TOTK or BOTW yet (except very briefly at friend’s houses) but I can appreciate the frustration of wanting to break through into the game and find the magic of the game that has so many people enchanted. peace love n kiss jaquuuuuaaaaaaaaaaaan
I've never played the Zelda titles before Ocarina of Time, but I have played every one since then. In this one I was far more interested in the new build mechanics. I also love how they put things in place that helped some of the pain points from the previous game. Like rain, you can make potions or get a suit. I also loved how you can glide everywhere using the towers, I barely used a horse. I just glided, plus when the the debris fall from the sky, I would almost always ran up to it to reverse time and glide.
Overall i liked the game. I think the Temples were a little on the easy side compared to OOC or Twilight Princess. It feels more like an expansion pack than a sequel in a lot of ways, I'm not sure if that's good or bad.
Pretty sure that's how the development started. They started it as an expansion but quickly realized they had wayy too many ideas to fit into an expansion, so they just made a sequel instead.
I kind of like the part of botw/totk where you don't have all your abilities. It creates interesting problem solving opportunities like cutting down a tree to cross a ravine. Once you get the glider you can just glide across that ravine, and overcoming any obstacle becomes a bit mindless
I love videos like this, and would definitely be interested in hearing your thoughts on Tears of the Kingdom once you finish that and the same goes for Final Fantasy 16.
Not trying to defend it, but as someone who’s played FF14 for the last 2 years and is caught up on the story/expansions, they definitely take their time letting their story and characters get fleshed out and it’s not just because 14 is an MMO.
It genuinely allows these big climactic and emotional moments build up properly so that there is an emotional payoff.
That being said, I could totally understand the opening of the game being jarring to someone who isn’t used to this team or just isn’t interested, especially the part about walking a little bit and then getting a cutscene.
The good thing is that you can skip the cutscenes if you so please :)
That introduction sums up my reaction to Skillup's intro, every single time
this is like a jakey podcast, I want more
The tutorial bit was actually me in BotW. I stopped after like 10 hours, barely got to Necluda and didn't play it for like 2 years until TotK was coming out. These games have definitely had lengthy tutorial areas.
Sir Jaquan. Top Tier as always KING!
I do think it's really neat after just finishing my watch of your entire original channel for the first time and seeing smaller you interacting with people in the comments to not being able to just because of the sheer size of your growth; coming here and seeing your smaller second channel and you interacting with people who comment. I absolutely admire how you are unapologetically yourself Jaquan and haven't changed as a content creator (aside from production quality and format) even coming from the first Games That Should Bang back in 2017 to now.
the path of exile campaign is seen as a sort of tutorial by experienced players because the amount of content you gain access to after the campaign is MASSIVE. it really just sort of throws you into it too
I think you've naturally landed on such a great format for this side channel. Just turning the camera on and talking naturally in a way that's genuine but generally unplanned, about certain things but no real solid point or final conclusion. A casual discussion - like a podcast, but instead just it's own simple thing. I'm not a massive fan of the whole parasocial relationship thing youtube creates but this does feel like a relaxing chat that I'd have with some friends or my brother. I wondered since you did mention the comments if you'd ever make a discord or something where people could discuss stuff, i know that takes moderating and annoying shit like that, i guess the comment section is already perfect for discussion.
bro you could make 1,000 of these types of videos and i would inject them directly into my veins God bless you Jaquombus
The cinematic universe is expanding
thank u jakey and isaac, i was hoping for a video on this channel about totk at some point. even though i put a decent chunk of time into breath of the wild, the totk tutorial didn't feel like a slog. it felt great to be in the zelda world again and to figure out the new abilities, even if it meant starting at square one. I kept forgetting I didn't have the paraglider for the first hour or so, which forced me to use ascend and ultrahand to build bridges and use zany ass ways to gain height. getting players to look up in games is notoriously hard, but ascend gave me an extra option of verticality which is super cool!!!
if jaquan was a worm i'd still love him and cherish him and perhaps give him some leaves and berries to eat
I played BotW and honestly loved the TotK tutorial. Personally, my one big issue was that they gave you Hyrule before the paraglider. I think it makes a lot more sense to give you all your exploration tools BEFORE giving you the areas to explore.
bro i was trying to do shrines and shit before i had the paraglider and it was impossible. seems like a weird design decision to me.
@E-Bizzy Yeah it seems odd considering how long the tutorial was. I avoided all TotK trailers and coverage because I wanted to play it blind, and I honestly thought they got rid of it lol. I really can't rationalize that decision.
This video is so lovely and fascinating! I love hearing y’all talk about your thoughts and feelings surrounding something that I’m so passionate about.
As someone who loves the Burback channel incessantly, I’m doubly excited to see Jakey bringing in his bro for this vid! There’s something so special about the sibling dynamic, that love and respect and camaraderie that certainly exists in other relationships in a person’s life, but rarely with such ease and comfort. This conversation feels like a glimpse into one of the safest and most real parts of your life. I’m grateful for the vulnerability that comes with sharing something like this with such a big audience. I appreciate the parasocial bond that you give us space to create with you, Jakey. I hope it makes you happy.
Tears of the kingdom was my first ever Zelda game and Im 35. I quite enjoyed the tutorial and the way the game literally just throws you off a cliff after giving you the necessary skills. A true sandbox game!
As far as the tutorial goes, the sense of aesthetic discovery is what carried me through. Look at all these weird little guys! What are they about? The color scheme, etc. reminded me a lot of what you said about Halo 3 in another video. Super warm and inviting, somehow.
I love this! Two bros sitting and talking about gaming and aspects that you enjoy. I especially agree on tutorials islands in games and wish that they could be skipped after you’ve played through them once. I just want to get to the action!!!
I loved the style of video very simple but is very reminiscent of talking to friends late at night while somewhat mindless playing something
Casual gamer here! I really enjoyed it as a slow introduction into how all the new abilities worked! Also being able to find clothing pieces early on in the island was great
I loved the tutorial section personally, I really took my time with it. The build up to this coming out was so prolonged I wanted to savour it!
Jakey any content from you on either channel makes my week. It’s always worth the wait.
Not having the paraglider for so long was a bit frustrating, but overall I found the tutorial islands to be really fun
I died so many times in the tutorial because I kept jumping off things, forgetting that I didn’t have my paraglider 😂
I found the tutorial great because you had one objective and then some cutscenes - rinse and repeat a couple of times. It was when it opened up and there were loads of things to do that I got overwhelmed and haven’t gone back to it
I completed breath of the wild so I’ll likely go back when I’m more in mood for it but yeah my experience was kind of backwards
First thought in the opening section, seeing that bombable rock, was that Link goes into this obviously dangerous pit was he forgot all his equipment. That being said, I did like the game. The story was very good, can't wait until you finish it.
This format is so heckin lovely
I played a good amount of BotW and I loved how the sandbox could be used in a variety of ways in the player's favor. TotK's tutorial got my mind thinking of the potential that the powers had and that was pretty cool.
I'm so happy you're using your second channel, Jakey :) Always happy to see more of you 🌻🌼🌈✨
im like suuuper biased because loz has been a hyperfixation of mine for as long as i can remember, but totk met and exceeded all expectations to me. i played sooo much botw so i knew what to expect and what i wanted from it. its just incredible how much this game made me feel- it was so much deaper and left me sobbing at times. maybe its because im a different person now than when i played botw, but im so glad i pushed thru the tut and explored.
i did every possible side quest in the game, every shrine, korok, and cave. finally finished the other night and i was so emotional. the ending to botw always underwhelmed me, but the whole last hour of tears had me bawling. its genuinley so beautiful and im starting to tear up now. sure there are flaws, but they dont matter at all when i think of this game and how it makes me feel. i wish i could experience it again for the first time
LFG Jaquan. This is my first Zelda and I’ve been lovin it
I’ve played literally every Zelda game to completion and I am somebody who hates lengthy drawn out tutorials.
The tutorial for TotK got me completely immersed in the world, made me feel like I was a master of the new abilities and had me completely captivated with my imagination (in regards to what I can do with these powers) in ways that few games ever have.
As somebody who was drawn to prioritise the story in Botw and ignore the wider world, this tutorial is to blame for me spending 60 hours in TotK and only then realising “I should probably start the story on this thing”
I never really thought about the flaws of the starting Island. I think personally my excitement for the game and the sheer spectacle was enough for me not to bat an eye.
Currently doing my first BOTW playthrough with my girl. First Zelda game I've ever played properly. Can't wait to move onto TOTK
also more chill ass shit like this please. really calming
I actually enjoyed the slow nature of the game's start. It felt very organic, with Link basically going caveman and working his way back to his normal status. This is something other games have toyed with: how does Link become Link? But it was always very quick and then you were in a silly tunic. This game felt to me very immersive.
And I also like how everyone in the world remembers who you are. No one seems to forget that you saved the world only a few years earlier.