As a New Zealander, I can confirm this is the case. Unfortunately, we would likely undergo drastic societal changes due to losing exports from the rest of the world, though giving how farming is one of our biggest industries, we will likely survive in some form. This of course, assumes that there were no cases within the country, which I highly doubt. Unless the mushrooms figure out how to swim.
The concept of some isolated island country actually avoiding the outbreak and being the safe haven for humanity with a still fully functioning and intact society would be insane, and a spin-off story about a survivor on a quest to make their way to that safe haven would be perfect
@@preceptorprime2894 I am thinking many panicked and infected Americans would try to flee to Cuba. Since it's relatively close and they have the means to do so like private yachts etc. Others like New Zealand would also face the same situation...unless they chose to execute everyone attempting entry, keeping infection at bay might be a challenge. The ones that would likely do the best are those isolated island nations that aren't as attractive or easy to flee to like Comoros or Tristan da Cunha. This is ideal because it takes quite a few days (6 days minimum from the closes ports in S. Africa) to travel to Tristan which can only accessed by boat as there are no landing strips/air ports. By which time anyone bitten would already have been overtaken by the fungus and visibly manifest symptoms enough time to get everyone on board. Any boats or ships now full of the infected would either capsize or drift aimless in the ocean. And be destroyed safely from a distance if they approached the island.
The UK can be a good example too, the main island is a lost cause, but theres many smaller islands thats apart of the UK and since this is one of the rich countries with a pretty good military, i can see them setting up some QZs on islands, and the story following our main character progressing though the country to the safe haven.
Philippines and Indonesia is a contender, the main islands may become infected but the other islands may survive. Philippines also has a lot of guns in circulation, I'm guessing the freedom fighters will survive as they are already in hiding from the government and has a supply of ammunition they also usually live in the mountains and/or islands, their main problem would be information, will the information reach them first or will the infected do.(God I hope my government knows what context is and not think I'm one of them for some reason I hate to think they're reading this and is already mobilizing a force to get me)
Eh, anywhere else in the world government armories would be emptied of their contents pretty quickly by survivors. Gun control only works when you actually have a government.
As a Canadian living in a somewhat small northern city, I can confirm that Canada would survive in some form. There are many small isolated communities almost completely cut off from the rest of the world, some even don't have roads going to them and receive goods through helicopter deliveries. There are also many people that live off the land and homestead. It's also like 80% wilderness up here, making it unlikely to have massive hoards in low population areas.
1 year later..... Yea I agree. The good thing about a scenario like this is because currency will go back to just trading items. You got something i want you have something I want. Lets trade. The currency we use today will seize to exist. By the way I could just imagine living on land. It would be wonderful. Your sitting on your porch, listening to the radio and all of a sudden you here a broadcast coming from the US that the zombie apocalypse has started😂😂 im curious Owen whats the first thing your gonna do? For me I would find my family ASAP. get a hold of them and find a place to meet up. If the games and movies serve us right the electronical grid should be shut down shortly after. Get all the phone calls in as possible
@@rzwitdauncut I'm actually a millwright (industrial mechanic) that's worked in the energy sector, so I can speak on that topic with some authority. Southern Ontario would lose power within 48 hours because most of their energy is generated by nuclear plants on the great lakes. Without the engineers and operators the plants would automatically shut down and cool the fissile fuel to prevent a meltdown. Northern Ontario's power is mostly generated by hydroelectric plants. Depending on the plant it could stay operational for years. Larger plants are operated by automatic systems that could generate enough power to keep themselves running for years. Smaller plants are usually run by private companies that sell the energy and are less advanced requiring more human oversight to operate, they could probably run for a few weeks before failing. But, even large hydro plants would eventually fail due to lack of maintenance. Rust would eat at the structure, worn bearings and gears would seize the turbines, gearboxes would run dry without grease, electronics would corrode, water intakes would clog (which would also cause massive flooding), the list goes on. None of this actually matters because the grid itself would fail first (probably within a few days, assuming no safeguards are tripped) without people to oversee transformers and substations. So even if plants are operating, there's no power being delivered to your house. But, it is believable that people with the right technical, mechanical, and electrical knowledge would be able to restart a hydro plant or wire up abandoned solar panels with the right equipment and replacement parts. Sorry for the long winded rant, I hope my mechanical nerdiness was somewhat interesting
@@owen5640 yes this is great insight. See. This is EXACTLY why owners, managers, and hire ups should respect us more. Seriously. Owen without people like you to run the plants this whole entire place would be in shambles. The operations wouldn't run without proper supervision and insight like you said. If you guys aren't doing the job who will? Not the hire ups. Not the elites. No sir. I think the big thing would be communication. Like you said it would take minimum a few weeks for the average ones. Can you imagine? I mean man. That would be tough. Also I made a reddit post that if there ever comes a time when the broadcasters for the news bail out on the studio that would officially mean we are in a serious apocalypse. Like the people on the news reported the co19 throughout the entire time. If it comes a time when the only way you can get the news is by the radio then yea we are in a apocalypse for real. By the way is that type of work worth it?
Natural selection and mass fatalities, China and Japan would be especially hard hit (assuming the fungus made its way to Japan through the food supply)
They should make a spin off game called something like: ‘The Last of Us: Early Days’ and focus on Joel early on (like a few months after the prologue) and also have three more characters across the rest of the world (One in the UK, one in Kenya and another in China) so that the UK people can show Europe, the Kenyan people can show Africa and the Chinese people can show Asia.
The last of us is far more better than world war z... Plus we just wanna know how other countries and people are coping with the Cordyceps brain infection
There's also a news paper clipping on the wall in Ish's sewer with a headline that says the UK freezes immigration. The rest of the article is illegible though.
Neil G the same probably happened with Australia. I imagine Australia might have fared better than the uk. I mean once you clear of all infected of an island all you got to do is stop any from potentially entering. Though I do think the uk and Australia still could have fallen due to heavy reliance on imported goods.
I saw that article too. Surprised no one else commented on it. I just wonder, how did Hawaii, Australia and the research scientist of Antarctica do against the virus?
@@coraldiamond1922 it could be the same in Japan, wich is just hundreds of islands, maybe mainland Japan is not very well but the small little islands probably are still having a normal daily life after the outbreal, so, with no means of sounding like a virgin but anime survived
Also, in the intro, one of the news reporters mentions panic spreading worldwide about vaccination tests failing at the WHO. If it was only in the U.S., that wouldn’t happen.
My native city of Venice would make an interesting location for this kind of Apocalypse. The lagoon is a perfect barrier since infected can't swim and do suffocate under water. Even if the infection does somehow get through, every quarter (or sestiere) of the city can easily be isolated, they are all islands connected by bridges. The sestiere of castello is still today fortified and has a modern military base inside. Also since fuel will be scarce, we will finally need to use actual gondolas as mean of transportation and not just a tourist trap.
And Venice is where the word “quarantine” originated as merchants during the Black Plague were required to isolate for 40 days in a compound before being allowed entry into the city.
How would you maintain the city from completely drowning without civilization, though? In about ten years there would be no dry land in my opinion, same for Netherlands. I mean, even Tommy says that both US costlines are completely under water, imagine those places.
I kinda like the idea that we (The players) have no idea what happened to the rest of the world. Especially now that TLoU1 was set twenty years after the outbreak. In such a scenario, realistically we won't know what happens to the rest of the world if we lost all forms of communication except for walkie talkies and radios.
Yeah, it certainly adds to the immersion. It’s like in the walking dead. Everyone’s knowledge of what happens to the outside world would be reduced to 0 as radio, TV and internet goes down for the last time. For lore reasons I would very much like to know, but I understand why we don’t get to. They’ve left just enough info in there for the fans’ imagination to go wild but not enough to give a definitive answer. Which is a great way to go about it
I find it's such an US American thing to go "Well, we have the most GUN and all problems can be solved by more GUN, right?" And all other societal and geographical factors are mostly brushed aside. It would be funny if CBI had exploded in the US through anti-pharma conspiracy theories insisting that the spores heal cancer or fends off 5G or something and was further spread by a tendency towards violent confrontation and inter-state movility further compounding the issue. While other countries did just fine by just staying at home and listening to specialists.
Well I mean HAM radio setups are pretty easy to make and they can broadcast across the whole world. It wouldn't be too hard at all to have global radio transmissions
@@harvster997 I don't think the Internet would be that unlikely either. Yeah the local infraestructure would be fucked but I think the big fat tunnels with fiber optic going across the oceans would be alright. Lots of satellites should be fine too. People would find ways to communicate
this is kind of like what's going on in the Metro 2033 books. They take place in the year 2033 where the society is wiped out by a nuclear war and people are living in the remains of the subway in Moscow. In the last book, the main character goes outside and tries to find contact with other survivors via a radio, but basically no one in their society knows if there are even other survivors so there's speculation of cities that were unharmed or other subway people living somewhere else.
I like the idea of communities of survivors in Europe centred on old fortifications like castles and star forts which have high, thick walls and were often designed to house fairly substantial numbers of people. Places like Windsor Caste and the Tower of London would be ideal and benefit from having armed garrisons already in place.
@@emaarredondo-librarian it depends on the specific location but many are situated near or on hunting grounds, rivers and farm land. Some larger fortifications even have a good amount of open space within their walls. Bamburgh castle is one example of the latter.
@@Komnene165 So, they would have to either go out from the fortress to grow food (which takes considerable time, same as hunting), or grow it inside the fort - and raise cattle and poultry, feeding the animals, what? I highly recommend you to read about the way old fortifications were supplied in the times they were active, there are videos about what ancient soldiers ate - you bet they didn't grow it themselves. I also recommend you to watch videos/read books about self-sufficient agriculture, and how farm animals are raised - and most importantly, how do you kill them and prepare them for eating. If you think going vegan for the occasion, it would be useful to check which produce you can actually grow in your climate (you'll be surprised at how many items are imported), where to get *seeds* in a collapsed society, and how long it take for produce to be ripe for eating. Knowing how to process cereals, oil seeds, canning, pickling and preserving, all of that without any way to buy anything, makes for a course of education much more interesting and potentially useful than a zombies video game. Definitely.
I actually have a lot of theories about this. Canada probably survived in the majority, as well as in desert nations in the Middle East and Africa, because the fungus has major trouble surviving in extreme cold or extreme arid heat. I also think that some small, remote island countries definitely survived, as infected can’t swim, and they may be able to farm their own food and live in a semi-normal Utopia that other survivors may strive to get to. One example of this is the island at point Nemo, the most remote place on the planet. I also think that South America, where the fungus began, is now a sort of horrific deadly jungle home to early mutated infected in the vein of the Rat King. Maybe the fungus there has even evolved to spread to animals like jaguars and caiman or anaconda. I think overall that different parts of the world would have different types or species of infected that evolved because of mutations or environmental differences. Also, the Fireflies probably weren’t the only survivors working on a cure…. I can envision the up-and-running Kremlin building being used as a base for horrific Soviet-style experiments on restrained or imprisoned infected and even other human survivors. Overall I think there’s a lot of untouched potential in the Last of Us universe, especially on the international / global scale. I hope that maybe the HBO show will continue past where the games left off and give us some new and exciting stories to experience.
I was actually thinking that countries like the UK and Sweden would have incredible chances of survival. The UK has thousands of islands around the mainland, with 100-10,000 population levels for each one. Since the infected hate water, it wouldn't take too much to clear out some islands and make one purposed entirely for quarantine and others for research to protect other researchers discovers and some islands exclusively to protect the general surviving population. They'd also be able to survive off island crops, farm animals, and the surrounding fish. Once several islands are secure, they could focus on recouping larger islands with popualtions of 20,000-100,000. I could see a large project for the UK being to rid the Isle of man from cordyceps completely. Its population is 80,000. The island is huge. It has an airport and docks and multiple fields for farmland. The number of people infected on the Isle of man is finite. It won't succeed 100,000 and will be a large task for the UK, but also a doable one. Plus, the UK has the benefit of the Isle of man having its population spread out. The capital of the island makes up 1/3 of the population, and another three towns added to this number already accounts for over 50%. These 4 locations happen to be at completely separate points to one another, and the location at the airport doesn't exceed a population of 5,000. They'd be able to completely rebuild a civilisation from that Isle alone, never mind the multiple islands in Scotland. Anglesey is another location, the total population being 70,000. It's the largest Isle in Wales, and the seventh largest in the UK. It's also actually two islands, the smaller part being Holyhead, with a population of 14,000. The UK would need to blow up the bridges that comment Holyhead to the rest of Anglesey and Anglesey to the mainland. Then they'll have achieved another large landmass with a finite amount of total invected that they'd be able to work through with the goal of reclaiming in its entirety and rebuilding. TLOU states that 90% of the world dies or becomes infected, but I doubt that's going to be a fixed number for each nation. Small island populations or countries with multiple small islands have higher chances for survival, especially in colder climates or climates with extreme heat that don't match the required temperature for the fungus. With where the islands are located as well, I could forsee Ireland and the UK working together to reclaim as much of the islands as possible for the benefit of both their nations. If the battersea power station can become a location with a contained and functioning civilisation in the middle of London, then there absolute should be a thriving civilisation in the islands of the British Isles. Same for Norway and Sweden. I'd imagine mainland Europe would have a harder time, as would any other countries connected to the mainland of their continent. I'd absolutely love to see these island rich countries portrayed in TLOU. If one island fails, then the others wouldn't be affected, especially if they set up quarantine islands specifically to check for infections whilst travelling between islands. The hardest challenge would be the mainland, and I would love to see a story where the islands have mostly moved on from the cordyceps but have retained/regained communication with communities on the mainland, to see the differences in their survival and if the islands even try to clear out any zones on the mainland or if they see it as a lost cause.
Tbf even in South America there would be pockets of human life if not civilization. It's not a jungle continent, you've got essentially a big sample book of every environment on earth. There are lots of isolated areas and places with extreme temperatures.
Yeah, there's no way an infection like this actually spreads worldwide. Maybe if there really are spores that can resist huge distances. World War Z the book showed the only plausible scenario for something like this: if the incubation period is very long, like a month... desperate people will try to escape, break any quarantine and run and spread it everywhere.
South America isn't just a jungle. Argentina are Chile have tundra climates in their south, the Andes exist and Bolivia sits 6000 ft high. Mexico contains jungle, forest and desert. All this wild range of climates and inaccessible terrains would allow some holdouts to exist some better than other. My headcannon has Bolivia and Chile as the only SA countries still having an "official" government functioning. Bolivia still has some considerable population scattered in the mountains due to how inaccessible it is by road in our current world. Chile's government relocated to its Antartican province, and would still hold some islands.
I’m honestly sad I’ve finished both games. I wish and possibly hope a third one is made. I don’t play a lot of video games but damn these were perfect for me
I like to think that in stories where we only see America's perspective of these apocalypses, That the rest of the world is not affected and is just normal. Kinda like a 27 days later scenario.
Well, we do know for sure from in game lore that 60% of the world’s population is dead. That means roughly 4.5 billion people. The us only has 330 million. So the rest of the world being unaffected is impossible. But as I mentioned, ND have themselves stated that it’s actually 90% meaning only 750 000 000 people are left on the planet. Now if that means 750 million healthy people or 750 million healthy and infected people is hard to tell. But what’s not is that the rest of the world is definitely as screwed as the US
Since all Europeans and Americans know very well that the Russian Government is very stricted and isolated from the rest of the world. They'd probably have some isolation protocol and it wouldn't be surprising if they survived, China has a same concept government, but because the Chinese live very crowded and have more than a billion citizens. It would be just unlikely for them to survive. Russia would be the most likely, cold climates, Siberia would covers their back because the mold wouldn't be able to grow in freezing temperatures. Canada would be likely to survive too. But i'd like to see if they can make a next part to include the rest of the world somehow in it, maybe restore internet etc to contact other scientists from other countries. See if there is any life in other parts in the world. Maybe Ellie travelling to search for a cure. Who knows
Yeah it would be fun to make a last of us mod about the north sentinelize trying to keep out non infected from coming to their island. My understanding is they can’t have contact with the outside world bc of all the diseases we carry that they aren’t vaccinated against?
Coming back to this as last night we got our TLOU HBO episode that showed how Jakarta, Indonesia reacted in the early days of the pandemic, or at least how their medical professionals reacted. Will be very cool if we get more lore like this!
The sad thing is, at least regarding Indonesia, that the government probably didn't bombard Jakarta as the lady suggested. The reason I believe this is because knowing how governments in general would react, they would be all like "muh but the economy, surely we can control the spread". And assuming that Jakarta was where the infection started, even bombarding the city wouldn't do much considering they would've already exported contaminated products to other cities and nations.
I really want to see what the infected population is like in different extreme climates. Also... I feel like people in the game don't take the spores and mold as serious as it would actually be... You really couldn't go into a store and like... Stock up and chow down if you were starving without serioualy risking getting the virus... And along with so many other basic mundane tasks in TLOU.
Well we have the mountains in both one and two as well as the shamblers, which was hinted to be a new mutation due to the huge amount of rain that Seattle gets
@@boyanpetrov1683 Santa Barbara typically has intense rainfall for short periods of time, which would benefit the creation of Shamblers (who molt from a clicker subject to moisture).
Going by current Covid19 pandemic & going by how USA is one of worst countries & governments to deal with it, it may be safe to assume most of the world is dealing a lot better than USA with managing & containing Cordycep outbreak
The Cordycep outbreak was probably a mild flu that the rest of the world dealt with sensibly and quickly. It mutated and evolved at a rapid rate in the USA due to the massive spread because they believed it to all be a hoax and refused to wear their masks and go to Disney World.
The difference here is that cordyceps is transferred through bites and food, not airborne (other than spore areas). The US has frequent recalls for ecoli, so that would be a big factor. I feel like if people were to see what the virus does on a physical level (rotting eyes, erratic behavior) everyone would believe it. You can't see covid, so it's up for debate to them. Even if you're disabled from it they don't see the proof because well, brain damage is more common than melting eyeballs. A minority of people might just be insane enough to believe essential oils or whatever useless drugs they have will cure it, or they'll pray it away, or purposefully get infected so they'll grow immunity like chicken pox, but they'll die off quickly.
That's what i thought...... but remember USA faced spanish flu VERY WELL (compared to many european countries, considering also that in europa it was the end of a global war), it's NOWADAYS with a stupid leadership that the country is in danger......it doesn't t depend on genetics or what you have, always is people and their behaviors the key of success or unsuccess.... you can have the most advance airplane, but if you put a monkey as a pilot, results will not be great
@@kaitokisser_ actually, you don't see any viruses, so if you don't believe it because you cannot see, that means that you're really stupid and uneducated......so that's how would you describe americans nowadays?? (I would say yes)
Considering when the virus broke out, the USA would have handled it considerably better than you guys hadn’t handled Covid because Obama was still in charge. He put money into WHO and the places that needed support in a pandemic such as this one, like hospitals, third world countries and poorer countries like Africa... he made sure there were enough resources for a pandemic. Trump decimated all of that and pulled all of the funding and groundwork that Obama had put in place.
In the Last of Us 2 it's confirmed that Canada's society didn't fall yet!. In the part of the ghostship, there is a note of the captain, it basically says that they were able to make contact with the authorities in Vancouver.
I dont think every infected turns into a bloater! Only the ones, where the fungus has a really favourable host for growing... we see many infected just dead and molten into a wall. But yeah for sure there would be more and more of them!
I would love to play a Last of Us pre sequel about Joel's time during the 20 years after losing his daughter. Very little was said about that time period, but during Joel and his Brother's arguement at the Dam, his brother can only explain it as Living in Hell.
@@AngelFlipz Yeah exactly. I'd also like to know if Joel thought about suicide after losing Sarah just like Henry. What exactly kept him fighting for over 20 years? I would like to know what things he found to fight for.
Part 1 - sets up world, sets up characters. Part 2 - controversial story, play as unknown/unliked character for a significant part of the story. Tries to make the player think about morals and shit. Part 3 (prediction) - will be a prequel that follows Joel and Tommy (maybe perhaps see more of Bill from the first game) and shows how they survived outbreak day
Probably not that bad... They have a lot of guns because of the civil war and they don’t have the money to buy coffe and cocoa (the thing that spread the cordicep at start)
Fungus develops in wet and dark areas, I don't think africa has many of those, as everything's dry and warm If anything africa should be the best place
17:24 those art pictures of Last of Us style apocalypse in Europe are really cool. I like to see some art concepts similarly in Asia like for example China or Japan or India.
If the cordyceps happened in Australia, most of it would be okay. The majority living in cities wouldn’t survive but for some of us, myself included, living in isolated towns would live high in the mountains or in the desert with the natives and wait it out, or just go to Tasmania or another island off-shore and live there. Plenty of options for us. Oh and the wildlife here will take good care of the zombies.
The picture from holmenkollen actually tells a lot about the situation in Norway. As seen in the picture it looks as if it was just abandoned before the outbreak. There isn’t any junk, barricades, shacks or signs of infected. This implies that the city got a heads up and it’s richer population likely evacuated to their cabins. This makes me believe that although the country lost its city’s due to the fungus, the state is probably alive and is running stuff from further inland or a smaller city. And a few cities is probably alive like Jackson in tlou 2.
Other countries shut down early, tested and wore masks. Eradicating the fungus mutation all together within 3 years. In the US, they thought it was a hoax and refused to follow any scientific guidelines before it was too late and the fungus got out of control. Other countries closed down their borders to the US and moved on. Hence the title The Last Of Untied States.
It'd be interesting to see how certain countries handled the outbreak. If countries more isolated geographically or isolated in trade did better initially. It seems like it would've took longer for the outbreak to reach them. But it is more complex than that. I also wonder what the population looks like. I'd assume that less than 1% of the population is left. Looking at the United States and how empty it is but that could still leave us with millions of people spread out across the world.
I mean some places definitely handled it better initially. But what’s interesting w tlou is that those places weren’t necessarily the most heavily and densely populated areas. Boston was arguably the place best off in the entire game but it also happened to be the place (save for Austin) that was the most densely populated prior to the outbreak. And yeah I’d say the same. Unlike something like the walking dead though, the same probably goes for the infected.
Imagine if coronavirus was cordyceps. America and Europe would be totally overrun (while debating if gas masks protect you from spores) while China would be chilling
@@lakeblackBLM i dont think so no at the start europe was actually handling the virus america did not as the ignored everything but yes right now it is as you say but in europe outbreak started in italy which is geofrapjily secluded from the rest of europe so i think europ would fall way later than america if it would fall to the same extent in the first time(well if you compare it with curent situation it is a bit blrak) but the food inported from usa is quite monitored in general as we have a bit more regulations so i think we would stop the import of food from USA immideatly after receivin the news of infected crops i think at least
@@Thirsty4Thirst China’s military has nothing to do with it; considering how densely populated China is a virus that basically turns people into killers wouldn’t be easy to control. Even with restrictions to keep the number of infected to a minimum that would simply result in riots and protests breaking out (like in real life) so it would all be futile. Literally no one would be chilling except maybe Switzerland, Nepal and ect due to their small population and geography.
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Honestly if they made a third The Last Of Us I'd love to see the other countries.. Maybe we could have new characters from different countries, like a smaller group
I just hope part 3 isn’t it for the franchise. I’d love a Joel prequel movie (video game universe) or game, and possibly a series that’s canon in that universe but not really connected
This video is missing some very important information that's impossible to miss, regarding the US outbreak. Tommy explicitly says the east and west coasts were already inundated by the time he, Joel, and Sarah are fleeing in the prologue-and that other cities across the country were also being hit hard.
see in the heat of the moment I kinda missed that important info back when I played it. If you look online there is a map that outlines exactly where they went when the game started. When it fast forwarded 20 years they went all the way north east. Now it makes since. Anywhere in the west was done.
My ideas for a different setting would be that the UK has faired a tad better (some personal bias there) and your part of a military unit or something going to mainland Europe in search of something like a cure. Could centre around a close unit of characters and you could have missions in various Cities, Paris, Amsterdam, Rome etc Think it'd be pretty cool!
@@sunshineskystar true, but the UK exports (or did, at the time) mostly flour and sugar (which are implied to be the carriers of the initial mold) from the EU, not from South America; only about 5% of the UK’s flour is exported, and much of their sugar comes from mainland Europe. Also considering it’s an island, in the context of the game, it’s likely the UK would’ve been infected later and probably therefore had a lot more time to prepare, though you’re right in that it would’ve been harder to contain the virus once it had arrived.
@@JackRabbit002 UK would fare far, far worse in this situation. Outside of maybe Scotland and some of the surrounding islands it would probably be almost completely lifeless.
Well I think the measures put in place against a sickness that turns people into mindless monsters would be a bit harsher than what’s happening now. But yeah I guess the fundamentals are the same
@@TheiPadCat "the worst affected countries tend to be the origin of the disease". Today China is one of the least infected, while the US is the worst. Telling, isn't it, how this narrative of blaming those who first discover the infection works... Blame sure doesn't help you deal with it neither. Be funny if China in this world is pretty much unaffected after also stemming the outbreak early on instead of looking for a scapegoat
@@Sebastian.A nope. Prove it. Go on. You see what you are feeling deep inside is a reflexive sense of patriotism, or hatred for a nation that is far different from your own. Do you really think China can silence a hundred thousand infected families? A million? One moronic doctor tries to start a panic at the beginning and ya'll latch onto him but fail to notice the startling lack of evidence for a coverup
Gold & Silver VS Crisis & Collapse there’s already been countless whistleblowers not sure how you think China works but they’re very good at silencing opinions heck they don’t even allow there own people on American social media websites and do a very good job
Thanks for the great vídeo and your analysis. In the destroyed gallery, I noticed Buckingham palace has a stronghold on top, with barbwire and satelite dish. Also the flag is not British, so probably some faction. You can see people outside near the canal in Moscow, and a dog!. You can see also people in the firecamp on the last picture of the gallery. Fantastic!!
I’m glad you enjoyed it Gilvan! And yup, a lot of the other ones have similar fortifications but they all look kinda abandoned-ish. The one depicting the royal palace in Stockholm also has a ton of barbed wire and lookout towers on the roof. But it’s hard to tell if it’s still inhabited. And yeah, I also saw some military trucks at the very corner of the Moscow one :) didn’t notice that last one though!
You have such an amazing talent for storytelling and analysis, you should consider making this available in a podcast as well! You’ll be the best person to have an TLOU podcast where you can invite people to discuss the game and theories with you.
You're unlikely to see this on a 2 year old video now, but I'm replaying the series at the moment. As you enter thr Sewer System after pittsburgh, the shiv door you unlock that leads to one of Ish's first notes, there's a pin board with a tonne of newspaper clippings on it. One of those clippings is about the UK ceasing immigration.
This is interesting to revisit. The running show states that the infection spread through tainted wheat flour and points Jakarta as ground zero. And i love how Joel in the show brings to light that everything went south in just a weekend. Considering that many people got infected at the same time across all over the world. And with a a very short incubation time. It was over before it even began.
I'm glad you mentioned this because I'm reading lots of the other comments and not one of them is taking into account the part about how you can get infected through the flour. In which case, I don't think it matters how isolate your country is, if you import any of this stuff, you're doomed.
Very good analysis and details to expand on our understanding of the game's lore. I agree totally with your points. By the way, there is an Australian actor named Grant Bowler who was in a US SyFy channel production called Defiance that would make a good Joel. He plays a character named Nolan, who was special forces and survives an alien invasion to reluctantly become the surrogate father of a precocious alien girl.
@@TheiPadCat Defiance is a great show. Or at least tbe beginning was. I didn't watch the later seasons, I think I remember the plot not being super engaging, unique, or intelligent.
Funny. You've uploaded the video on Friday 13th 2020 - the last day before before our (Czech) government issued a sudden lockdown of many establishments. I went to a pub with a friend that day. She proposed to get a beer, I first refused as I was tired from work. But then I got thirsty (we Czech are like that lol) and so we went to grab a few. There was a 21pm "pub curfew" issued already. So we called it a day around 21pm, I went home, went to sleep and when I woke up, we were under lockdown. We were both so glad I decided to go drinking that Friday. I originally offered Saturday. :D
"City of Thieves" is a book written by David Benioff (a head writer of the Game of Thrones show, among others) that depicts his grandfather, Lev Benioff's, life during WWII Russia as he was sent out on a strange mission through Leningrad. The name Lev also was used as inspiration in TLOU2 for the Seraphite character that becomes Abby's sidekick. ALSO, in the first moment of the Abby gameplay in TLOU2, where is she is seen sleeping on a cot with a book on her chest, the book she's reading IS "City of Thieves." The inspiration runs deep.
One thing that end-of-the-world zombie stories intentionally left out is that, probably lots of nuclear power plants across the world ( maybe all of them ) would go full meltdown. Since very few, or likely all of their human crew tending them.... would be dead or zombiefied. So, the survivors wouldnt only have to survive against a horrible infectious disease, but also quite heavy radiation pollution, many time worse than Chernobyl.
Modern reactors don't work like that at all, an active but abandoned plant would enter a safety shutdown and turn itself off after a short amount of time although in the worst case scenario a "meltdown" still wouldn't spread much radiation
Actually if you look closely in some cities you can see smoke coming from what I'm assuming a fire made probably by man, in the castle at 17:38 you can see I think a satellite and a medical flag and the photo from Sweden on the building you can see another satellite and some wire, I am actually glad some people found and rebuilt these places and lived there for a while just like Jackson
Yeah, the reason I didn’t say any others beside Russia and England showed any signs of life is those two are the only ones we can see for sure. Yes many others have signs of people having lived there at one point or another, but for all we know it could be long since abandoned - because we don’t see any humans, electricity nor any other stuff pointing toward people still being there. Yes there may be smoke, but what’s to say that’s not just someone like Bill, living all by themselves in the town? I would hardly call that civilisation
I would also just like to point out - whether this is intentional or just a common mistake - that in the Newspaper, it says "ENGLAND", not the UK or Great Britain. This could mean that countries within the Union such as Scotland or Wales completely collapsed, or that there was a mass-migration to England. It could also just be that Scotland, Wales and NI all declared their own martial law independently, splitting apart from GB. Or, as many American people do, the ENTIRE UK is just being summed up as 'England' (very wrongly). I would love to see TLOU set in the UK, would be very cool :)
You're forgetting the Cordyceps fungus lives on very wet environments. Reproducing itself on dry cold-hot places would be a mejor obstacle for the fungus to overcome. Thus, I think more countries than we could expect survived, more specifically those located very far from the Ecuador latitude.
That could be a great game. The Last Of The Burj. Like each mission is a floor and you scavenge for supplies then you have hope when you reach the bottom floor and look outside only to see 100,000s of Zombies. The screen goes dark and you hear a single gunshot!
@@topsdaily_productions it would be so cool if there was a last of us game of ppl around the world and one of the stories/chapters, will be about ppl stuck at the burj
@@danielromero001 Its possible. Maybe the Burj could be a "town" of sorts with various floors representing a caste of society (top floors are elites and bottom are workers). And there could be an incident where the infected break inside and the main character has to climb to safety where the elites dont want any lower class members inside. It could have a Halo Reach story where the dooms inevitable but it could still work.
It would be really interesting to see how isolated countries survived. Like that island with no contact with the outside world. Or maybe a country like North Korea thriving
If there’s one message to take home from the Last of Is series it’s to shop from your local supplier and support local businesses….especially when it comes to flour based products
I'm not sure how many didn't see the newspaper, but when you guys go collect the Sewers Note. There's a newspaper stating something about the European union has closed off Air Travel to the Americas. The writing is hard to read, but I was able to see some parts of it. Also Ellie is still immune, just trying to hide her immunity. (I haven't played part 2 yet but I'd love too.)
Go into part 2 with an open mind.... The game can be very divisive with many hating it but I believe it is a masterpiece in every sense of the word. A must play even if just to find out where you stand
Canada apparently got the infection much later. Even by early october, there were 0 infection in Vancouver, which is the 3rd largest city in the coutry and a VERY busy port. Had to the fact that winters are very harsh and the population is scatered in an emormous land: the cortycept might have a hard time spreading efectively. Just a though
Well considering the source is questionable to begin with and over 25 years old by the time we find it, it’s hard to confirm whether or not it’s accurate. It’s strange for sure that Seattle was hit so hard and not Vancouver. And I doubt the winters had any effect considering what we see during the winter sections in both games, but who knows.
An overgrown new orleans/lousianna always interested me, with the swamps and flooding engulfing the area with wildlife and seeing how people survive in that environment
I have to imagine that some small island nations, like those in the south pacific, might have endured the CBI pandemic fairly well compared to the rest of the world. Those islands would be same from roaming infected and would have land that they have to guard, so they could more easily root out any infected that are on the island. They also could rely on fishing for a lot of their food, which would be a lot less vulnerable to cordiceps fungus contamination. A lot of those islands also benefit from year-round favorable temperatures for growing crops and not freezing to death. I would imagine the US has at least one of the Hawaiian islands secured and used as a main base, since they're remote, warm, and large enough to have a fully functioning society yet small enough to control with limited forces.
So many details I didn’t know or missed! Part 2 has a chance to clear things out a bit. Maybe we’ll find a plane crash site that would tell more about it. And again, an episode where you travel from town to town on a car could be one of the ways to tell things about the world as well. 🤔
Well I’m glad there’s still stuff we all can learn about this game despite it closing in on being 7 years old :) and yeah that could be really cool! Reminds me of a scene in fear the walking dead that provides the characters with information on what happened elsewhere in the US, so it could totally work!
I would think many island nations could still be okay, as keeping the infected out would be much simpler than countries connected to other countries. Madagascar, Seychelles, Maldives, New Zealand, Samoa, even places like Svalbard and the Faroe Islands, despite their heavy reliance on import products, could still be functioning reasonably well.
The image of Battersea Power Station is such a powerful (forgive me) piece of storytelling, and implies so much about the status of civilisation on the island of Great Britain. Notably, two things occur to me. First, that the visibility of the columns of black smoke suggest that this is far from a clandestine operation, that those who are operating the station are likely doing so either at the behest or with the permission of whatever authority remains in place. Thus, an organised society within the city of London is possible, and the possibility is compounded by the fact that a station the size of Battersea would likely easily be able to supply the power needs of whatever remnant population exists within London, even quite a sizeable one. Second, and perhaps much more significantly, is that the image implies the existence of a coal-mining operation capable of supplying fuel to the station. The fact that all of Britain’s coal mines are located hundreds of miles away from London further implies an infrastructure able to deliver significant quantities of coal over long distances. One possibility is that the railways in the UK remain in operation, or were re-started at some time in the preceding years. Whether the British government has existed continuously in some form since the outbreak, or whether a rebel group seized power at some point, or indeed whether some organised force arose to fill a power vacuum, the image of the power station implies a reasonable effort of recovery within Britain and probably a decent quality of life for its citizens, maybe even with pockets of Jackson-quality living.
I wonder how much we can infer from the current Covid-19 pandemic? I imagine here in Europe they may develop a range of bows/crossbows for self defence. I could see people in European quarantine zones having daily archery practice.
Comparing TLOU's cordyceps lethality rate of 100%, to covid's lethality rate of 0.3% (for the most vulnerable) ? I keep hearing from people, more and more that if you get Covid-19 it is pretty much a death sentence, if you get it you better pray because you will most likely not survive it, this is what I keep hearing everyone say.
I've always thought, " what if North America was fighting through a zombie apocalypse, but the rest of the world continued as normal. And it was just someone testing a disease." That's how I look at most zombie stories.
Well we know for sure that’s not the case in the tlou universe. While the WHO was still functioning, they confirmed 60% of the world’s population had died. That means roughly 4.5 billion people. Which is more than 10 times the US population. The rest of the world being unaffected is impossible. So is only the west being affected since it only has about 1 billion inhabitants. Even if the 90% thing isn’t true, which I am very certain it is. It still means the entire world is screwed in one way or another
@@TheiPadCat i always wondered what happened to Japan and North Korea, Japan could just have closed it's borders and move it's people to the small little islands and North Korea there's no need to explain. Even if they have a good trade relation with Argentina wich is in South America
This also explains why CBI was said to have started in the south and spread northward, rather than spontaneously appearing all over the place and converging together on the maps. It started in South America and spread from there
After living through 2020....there were probably parts of the world that managed to not suffer as much while the US collapsed into madness....then again, the thing that bugs me most about this particular zombie style is that it's a jungle fungus and I just don't see how it could survive the deserts of Arizona/the brutal cold of Wyoming
Considering our handling of CoVID-19, I reckon NZ had about a 25% chance of survival, depending on who's in power. Our borders are fairly easy to close off, though we are somewhat dependent on certain imports, and our economy is largely predicated on export and tourism.
Yeah, exactly. I feel like most island would have similar changes. Most Caribbean island, for example, closed the borders very very early and many island still have their borders closed until further notice, like St Kitts and Nevis. In a situation like The Last of Us, the main issue for Caribbean islands wouldn’t be the disease but food shortages and the destruction of the tourism industry
The bison thing makes me think of the fact that part of the premise of the game/show is that global warming has caused the mutation of the cordyceps, so it makes sense that bison would migrate north and many people would as well.
I actually want a zombie game to not just switch 20 years later and the world is post-apocalyptic. Let's say there's a zombie game based on Paris. And then Paris and the rest of the world just slid into chaos. And that's the story. You just live and survive in the newly infected world. Not just travel 20 years later.
Completely agree. My biggest pet peeve with the Zombie genre is that we rarely get to see or experience the initial outbreak and the Fall Of Civilization. Imagine an entire game similar to the first 20 Minute of TLOU.
i can actually find small signs of life in some of the other promotional arts mostly in the backgrounds on top of that the fact there is still fire going on in some of them like the paris one could also be a good indication that there are still people alive somewhere.. the olimpic ski jumping one too in the background it almost looks like in that building there is a light.. now it could be a reflection but the fact that it's a picture that looks like it's nearing evening hours it kind of makes sense.. on top of that you said it was 20 years after the outbreak.. a fire especially in a city wouldn't go on for that long.. in a forest yeah maybe but i'm guessing those are signs of the remnants of humanity
Just a small thing about the spanish flu: while it wreck havoc around the world, it never "nearly" caused any colapse of any sort. It was a major, major crisis, maybe even worse than the recent pandemic, but certainly not a society ending event.
Why do you think so? I mean, I know Portugal isn't a very big country in terms of territory and population size, but I would like to know the specific factors that make you fear that outcome (Military, Health Security, Transportation, etc.). Just to know, of course.
@@gabrielomarturratorres5138 Portugal is in Europe and right there, with Spain, so of course Portugal will be bad, like the rest od Europe, I think New Zeland, Hawaii, Greenland and other islands will be safe.
@@wtfisthis96 Fair point. Kind of sad and tragic when you think about it. I personally don't like to think too much how my country would fare in such scenario, cause I'm pretty sure we would be one of the worst to respond adecuately to it (greetings from Chile 🇨🇱).
7:57 And civilians. Here in Poland at most only 1 out of 200 Poles have any amount of guns. At least there are still firearms without a need to register such as firearms with separate loading produced before 1885 or their replicas or air guns.
A spinoff in a different country would be interesting to say the least, to see how the cordyceps impacted different nations and perhaps unique variations of infected thanks to the local climate! I remember they mentioned in the first game that 60 percent of the world was killed in the early days of the outbreak.
Being in America during this pandemic I’ve realized that if this game was real it’d play out the exact same way. Heck you would even have people refusing to wear gas masks when there’s spores. Idk which species is worse; you don’t see clickers screwing each other over
Ehhhh I don’t know about that. A cough for a few weeks is different from a super fungus that makes people eat each other. I’m sure people would be far more afraid.
@@Soulthief4056 or they’d just take a snake oil or false reassurance and refuse to follow any precautions or evacuation orders. Both denying the situation and denying help.
The third game should take you to another country. Like Ellie finds out there’s people trying to make a cure in Japan, England or Australia and that’s where the game takes place.
I love theory’s like this because, in zombie games and etc. I am always curious of how the rest of the world handled the viruses. It’s scary but at the same time it’s so cool. Knowing and learning how other country’s are standing. Makes the games mysterious and amazing
The should make a dlc(s) based in separate parts of the world that are near equivalent in size as the U.S such as eastern Europe, or Some parts of Asia. I’d definitely pay money to play something like that.
I found a highly likely that Endland as a island nation wouldn’t have to declare martial law as soon as if it shut its borders sooner than other nations, plus everyone I meet in England seem to be strong, and we actually have some gun problems in some city (where I live is a smaller city in a good location for setting up a QZ zone so I found a highly likely with the styling and the power of the United Kingdom would survive somewhat like America did.
Seeing how we handled covid19 I’m sure it would make it in, however the government could relocate to balmoral castle or or an aircraft carrier or even an overseas territory like the Falkland island. So mostly alright.
@@lukemcgahern2357 I agree with you, but also we have to remember there is a lot of strategical places in the British Isles itself, so it’s more likely for the Polish government to relocate to another smaller city less affected (kind of like how America did with Boston)
Also, you know what happened in London, the part where you are in the sewers with Sam and Henry, where the third note from Ish is, there are newspaper clippings saying that London is in a state of emergency, and the UK government has closed its borders for good
Well in Part II according to either Ellie or Dina, Jess always wanted to see the water falls up in Canada, a group of people who escaped San Diego by Boat on Outbreak day set their Destination for Vancouver and Vancouver confirmed that there weren’t many reports of infected there so it’s possible they could’ve survived, but the boat never made it there and it had to port in Seattle because people got sick, some already turned and a lady with bow and arrow skills killed all the sick people whether they were infected or not and the captain already locked that lady in her cabin and tied her up, they had a struggle and killed each other and by then so many people turned and were banging on the captains door and they both bled out and the captains last words were “could she have been right!” And it’s so coincidental how you released this video on my last day of school back in 2020 due to Covid Lockdown, it was my sophomore year of High school and I’m sure the only country who’s probably fully protected at a time like this is North Korea lolll
oh my god, I just stopped and paused this at "only killed a few thousand people so far". This is early 2020. It just says "2 years ago" and I just physically recoiled from my own computer screen. Gosh, I wish it'd only been a few thousand. I wish it'd been no one at all.
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I like to think New Zealand just quietly closed its borders and carried on with life.
since new zealand is missing from half of all maps ever made it's very likely they would probably just be forgotten.
As a New Zealander, I can confirm this is the case. Unfortunately, we would likely undergo drastic societal changes due to losing exports from the rest of the world, though giving how farming is one of our biggest industries, we will likely survive in some form. This of course, assumes that there were no cases within the country, which I highly doubt. Unless the mushrooms figure out how to swim.
Part2 should have been an adventure to New Zealand
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The concept of some isolated island country actually avoiding the outbreak and being the safe haven for humanity with a still fully functioning and intact society would be insane, and a spin-off story about a survivor on a quest to make their way to that safe haven would be perfect
It’s funny because places like cuba would be fine, why is it in a lot of post apocalyptic situations cuba ends up being fine
@@preceptorprime2894 I am thinking many panicked and infected Americans would try to flee to Cuba. Since it's relatively close and they have the means to do so like private yachts etc.
Others like New Zealand would also face the same situation...unless they chose to execute everyone attempting entry, keeping infection at bay might be a challenge.
The ones that would likely do the best are those isolated island nations that aren't as attractive or easy to flee to like Comoros or Tristan da Cunha.
This is ideal because it takes quite a few days (6 days minimum from the closes ports in S. Africa) to travel to Tristan which can only accessed by boat as there are no landing strips/air ports.
By which time anyone bitten would already have been overtaken by the fungus and visibly manifest symptoms enough time to get everyone on board. Any boats or ships now full of the infected would either capsize or drift aimless in the ocean. And be destroyed safely from a distance if they approached the island.
@@MuantanamoMobile or they could just close up their borders, they have military’s
The UK can be a good example too, the main island is a lost cause, but theres many smaller islands thats apart of the UK and since this is one of the rich countries with a pretty good military, i can see them setting up some QZs on islands, and the story following our main character progressing though the country to the safe haven.
Philippines and Indonesia is a contender, the main islands may become infected but the other islands may survive.
Philippines also has a lot of guns in circulation, I'm guessing the freedom fighters will survive as they are already in hiding from the government and has a supply of ammunition they also usually live in the mountains and/or islands, their main problem would be information, will the information reach them first or will the infected do.(God I hope my government knows what context is and not think I'm one of them for some reason I hate to think they're reading this and is already mobilizing a force to get me)
I hope they do zombie games outside of the USA so surviving & getting weapons would actually be a challenge
DayZ haha
Nice profile pic lol
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Eh, anywhere else in the world government armories would be emptied of their contents pretty quickly by survivors.
Gun control only works when you actually have a government.
As a Canadian living in a somewhat small northern city, I can confirm that Canada would survive in some form. There are many small isolated communities almost completely cut off from the rest of the world, some even don't have roads going to them and receive goods through helicopter deliveries. There are also many people that live off the land and homestead. It's also like 80% wilderness up here, making it unlikely to have massive hoards in low population areas.
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Unless the infected decided to move to another place to get more prey to fall into their hands.
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Yea I agree. The good thing about a scenario like this is because currency will go back to just trading items. You got something i want you have something I want. Lets trade. The currency we use today will seize to exist.
By the way I could just imagine living on land. It would be wonderful. Your sitting on your porch, listening to the radio and all of a sudden you here a broadcast coming from the US that the zombie apocalypse has started😂😂
im curious Owen whats the first thing your gonna do? For me I would find my family ASAP. get a hold of them and find a place to meet up. If the games and movies serve us right the electronical grid should be shut down shortly after. Get all the phone calls in as possible
Most Canadians live near the border with the us though
@@rzwitdauncut I'm actually a millwright (industrial mechanic) that's worked in the energy sector, so I can speak on that topic with some authority.
Southern Ontario would lose power within 48 hours because most of their energy is generated by nuclear plants on the great lakes. Without the engineers and operators the plants would automatically shut down and cool the fissile fuel to prevent a meltdown.
Northern Ontario's power is mostly generated by hydroelectric plants. Depending on the plant it could stay operational for years. Larger plants are operated by automatic systems that could generate enough power to keep themselves running for years. Smaller plants are usually run by private companies that sell the energy and are less advanced requiring more human oversight to operate, they could probably run for a few weeks before failing.
But, even large hydro plants would eventually fail due to lack of maintenance. Rust would eat at the structure, worn bearings and gears would seize the turbines, gearboxes would run dry without grease, electronics would corrode, water intakes would clog (which would also cause massive flooding), the list goes on.
None of this actually matters because the grid itself would fail first (probably within a few days, assuming no safeguards are tripped) without people to oversee transformers and substations. So even if plants are operating, there's no power being delivered to your house. But, it is believable that people with the right technical, mechanical, and electrical knowledge would be able to restart a hydro plant or wire up abandoned solar panels with the right equipment and replacement parts.
Sorry for the long winded rant, I hope my mechanical nerdiness was somewhat interesting
@@owen5640 yes this is great insight. See. This is EXACTLY why owners, managers, and hire ups should respect us more. Seriously. Owen without people like you to run the plants this whole entire place would be in shambles. The operations wouldn't run without proper supervision and insight like you said. If you guys aren't doing the job who will? Not the hire ups. Not the elites. No sir.
I think the big thing would be communication. Like you said it would take minimum a few weeks for the average ones. Can you imagine? I mean man. That would be tough. Also I made a reddit post that if there ever comes a time when the broadcasters for the news bail out on the studio that would officially mean we are in a serious apocalypse.
Like the people on the news reported the co19 throughout the entire time. If it comes a time when the only way you can get the news is by the radio then yea we are in a apocalypse for real. By the way is that type of work worth it?
I can’t even imagine what the incredibly dense populations of Asia would’ve looked like during a CBI breakout.
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Don't forget metro manila philippines
Eastern china would cease to exist
@@kyzerw3816 Rat King Heaven
Natural selection and mass fatalities, China and Japan would be especially hard hit (assuming the fungus made its way to Japan through the food supply)
They should make a spin off game called something like: ‘The Last of Us: Early Days’ and focus on Joel early on (like a few months after the prologue) and also have three more characters across the rest of the world (One in the UK, one in Kenya and another in China) so that the UK people can show Europe, the Kenyan people can show Africa and the Chinese people can show Asia.
That would be cool, a tv show that’s connected to the last of us and has your ideas would cool as well
Drawde_064 world war Z ripoff? No thanks!
The last of us is far more better than world war z... Plus we just wanna know how other countries and people are coping with the Cordyceps brain infection
@@libefiken1863 wow your so single minded
it would be better than TLOU 2.
This game really had me wanting to see everywhere an everything
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I really hope they make well-written spin offs.
There's also a news paper clipping on the wall in Ish's sewer with a headline that says the UK freezes immigration. The rest of the article is illegible though.
Neil G the same probably happened with Australia. I imagine Australia might have fared better than the uk. I mean once you clear of all infected of an island all you got to do is stop any from potentially entering. Though I do think the uk and Australia still could have fallen due to heavy reliance on imported goods.
I saw that article too. Surprised no one else commented on it. I just wonder, how did Hawaii, Australia and the research scientist of Antarctica do against the virus?
@@coraldiamond1922 it could be the same in Japan, wich is just hundreds of islands, maybe mainland Japan is not very well but the small little islands probably are still having a normal daily life after the outbreal, so, with no means of sounding like a virgin but anime survived
lol the UK? Freezing immigration? LOL. "Pubs closed, borders open" ...
Also, in the intro, one of the news reporters mentions panic spreading worldwide about vaccination tests failing at the WHO. If it was only in the U.S., that wouldn’t happen.
My native city of Venice would make an interesting location for this kind of Apocalypse. The lagoon is a perfect barrier since infected can't swim and do suffocate under water. Even if the infection does somehow get through, every quarter (or sestiere) of the city can easily be isolated, they are all islands connected by bridges. The sestiere of castello is still today fortified and has a modern military base inside. Also since fuel will be scarce, we will finally need to use actual gondolas as mean of transportation and not just a tourist trap.
And Venice is where the word “quarantine” originated as merchants during the Black Plague were required to isolate for 40 days in a compound before being allowed entry into the city.
İts a toruistic place where alot of people around the globe gather, i dont think they would last
@@KouNagai Ti xe caxo ti ti xe
Oh yes, the weakness of infected is swimming, so a fortress of survivors in Venice is very possible
How would you maintain the city from completely drowning without civilization, though? In about ten years there would be no dry land in my opinion, same for Netherlands. I mean, even Tommy says that both US costlines are completely under water, imagine those places.
Watching this in 2023 and hearing about COVID only killing a few thousand at the time is just crazy
Right! I had to check when this video was posted
I kinda like the idea that we (The players) have no idea what happened to the rest of the world. Especially now that TLoU1 was set twenty years after the outbreak.
In such a scenario, realistically we won't know what happens to the rest of the world if we lost all forms of communication except for walkie talkies and radios.
Yeah, it certainly adds to the immersion. It’s like in the walking dead. Everyone’s knowledge of what happens to the outside world would be reduced to 0 as radio, TV and internet goes down for the last time.
For lore reasons I would very much like to know, but I understand why we don’t get to. They’ve left just enough info in there for the fans’ imagination to go wild but not enough to give a definitive answer. Which is a great way to go about it
I find it's such an US American thing to go "Well, we have the most GUN and all problems can be solved by more GUN, right?"
And all other societal and geographical factors are mostly brushed aside.
It would be funny if CBI had exploded in the US through anti-pharma conspiracy theories insisting that the spores heal cancer or fends off 5G or something and was further spread by a tendency towards violent confrontation and inter-state movility further compounding the issue. While other countries did just fine by just staying at home and listening to specialists.
Well I mean HAM radio setups are pretty easy to make and they can broadcast across the whole world. It wouldn't be too hard at all to have global radio transmissions
@@harvster997 I don't think the Internet would be that unlikely either.
Yeah the local infraestructure would be fucked but I think the big fat tunnels with fiber optic going across the oceans would be alright.
Lots of satellites should be fine too.
People would find ways to communicate
this is kind of like what's going on in the Metro 2033 books. They take place in the year 2033 where the society is wiped out by a nuclear war and people are living in the remains of the subway in Moscow. In the last book, the main character goes outside and tries to find contact with other survivors via a radio, but basically no one in their society knows if there are even other survivors so there's speculation of cities that were unharmed or other subway people living somewhere else.
when you realise: The Last of U.S.
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Lmao shit
Awww shit, here we go again...
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There are survivors in New Mexico, even that former FEDRA-faction «The Ravens» are active there. Dina mentions it in The last of us part 2.
New mexico is in the US though i think were looking for other countries survival
L78400 that was fairly early into the outbreak. But yeah.
Jordan Bielik True, they could still be active. Hard to know, kinda have to guess
Christian Slettebakk Bruh New Mexico is a US state...
Ethan Swingle Yes Karen
I like the idea of communities of survivors in Europe centred on old fortifications like castles and star forts which have high, thick walls and were often designed to house fairly substantial numbers of people. Places like Windsor Caste and the Tower of London would be ideal and benefit from having armed garrisons already in place.
They could be surrounded and sieged in by infected until they starve.
How would they feed themselves?
@@emaarredondo-librarian it depends on the specific location but many are situated near or on hunting grounds, rivers and farm land. Some larger fortifications even have a good amount of open space within their walls. Bamburgh castle is one example of the latter.
@@Komnene165 So, they would have to either go out from the fortress to grow food (which takes considerable time, same as hunting), or grow it inside the fort - and raise cattle and poultry, feeding the animals, what?
I highly recommend you to read about the way old fortifications were supplied in the times they were active, there are videos about what ancient soldiers ate - you bet they didn't grow it themselves. I also recommend you to watch videos/read books about self-sufficient agriculture, and how farm animals are raised - and most importantly, how do you kill them and prepare them for eating. If you think going vegan for the occasion, it would be useful to check which produce you can actually grow in your climate (you'll be surprised at how many items are imported), where to get *seeds* in a collapsed society, and how long it take for produce to be ripe for eating. Knowing how to process cereals, oil seeds, canning, pickling and preserving, all of that without any way to buy anything, makes for a course of education much more interesting and potentially useful than a zombies video game. Definitely.
That was one of the plot points in WWZ the book actually
I actually have a lot of theories about this. Canada probably survived in the majority, as well as in desert nations in the Middle East and Africa, because the fungus has major trouble surviving in extreme cold or extreme arid heat. I also think that some small, remote island countries definitely survived, as infected can’t swim, and they may be able to farm their own food and live in a semi-normal Utopia that other survivors may strive to get to. One example of this is the island at point Nemo, the most remote place on the planet. I also think that South America, where the fungus began, is now a sort of horrific deadly jungle home to early mutated infected in the vein of the Rat King. Maybe the fungus there has even evolved to spread to animals like jaguars and caiman or anaconda. I think overall that different parts of the world would have different types or species of infected that evolved because of mutations or environmental differences. Also, the Fireflies probably weren’t the only survivors working on a cure…. I can envision the up-and-running Kremlin building being used as a base for horrific Soviet-style experiments on restrained or imprisoned infected and even other human survivors. Overall I think there’s a lot of untouched potential in the Last of Us universe, especially on the international / global scale. I hope that maybe the HBO show will continue past where the games left off and give us some new and exciting stories to experience.
I was actually thinking that countries like the UK and Sweden would have incredible chances of survival. The UK has thousands of islands around the mainland, with 100-10,000 population levels for each one.
Since the infected hate water, it wouldn't take too much to clear out some islands and make one purposed entirely for quarantine and others for research to protect other researchers discovers and some islands exclusively to protect the general surviving population. They'd also be able to survive off island crops, farm animals, and the surrounding fish.
Once several islands are secure, they could focus on recouping larger islands with popualtions of 20,000-100,000.
I could see a large project for the UK being to rid the Isle of man from cordyceps completely. Its population is 80,000. The island is huge. It has an airport and docks and multiple fields for farmland.
The number of people infected on the Isle of man is finite. It won't succeed 100,000 and will be a large task for the UK, but also a doable one. Plus, the UK has the benefit of the Isle of man having its population spread out. The capital of the island makes up 1/3 of the population, and another three towns added to this number already accounts for over 50%. These 4 locations happen to be at completely separate points to one another, and the location at the airport doesn't exceed a population of 5,000.
They'd be able to completely rebuild a civilisation from that Isle alone, never mind the multiple islands in Scotland.
Anglesey is another location, the total population being 70,000. It's the largest Isle in Wales, and the seventh largest in the UK. It's also actually two islands, the smaller part being Holyhead, with a population of 14,000.
The UK would need to blow up the bridges that comment Holyhead to the rest of Anglesey and Anglesey to the mainland. Then they'll have achieved another large landmass with a finite amount of total invected that they'd be able to work through with the goal of reclaiming in its entirety and rebuilding.
TLOU states that 90% of the world dies or becomes infected, but I doubt that's going to be a fixed number for each nation. Small island populations or countries with multiple small islands have higher chances for survival, especially in colder climates or climates with extreme heat that don't match the required temperature for the fungus.
With where the islands are located as well, I could forsee Ireland and the UK working together to reclaim as much of the islands as possible for the benefit of both their nations.
If the battersea power station can become a location with a contained and functioning civilisation in the middle of London, then there absolute should be a thriving civilisation in the islands of the British Isles. Same for Norway and Sweden.
I'd imagine mainland Europe would have a harder time, as would any other countries connected to the mainland of their continent.
I'd absolutely love to see these island rich countries portrayed in TLOU. If one island fails, then the others wouldn't be affected, especially if they set up quarantine islands specifically to check for infections whilst travelling between islands.
The hardest challenge would be the mainland, and I would love to see a story where the islands have mostly moved on from the cordyceps but have retained/regained communication with communities on the mainland, to see the differences in their survival and if the islands even try to clear out any zones on the mainland or if they see it as a lost cause.
Tbf even in South America there would be pockets of human life if not civilization. It's not a jungle continent, you've got essentially a big sample book of every environment on earth. There are lots of isolated areas and places with extreme temperatures.
Do you imagine everything in life based on the output of Hollywood and games?
Yeah, there's no way an infection like this actually spreads worldwide. Maybe if there really are spores that can resist huge distances. World War Z the book showed the only plausible scenario for something like this: if the incubation period is very long, like a month... desperate people will try to escape, break any quarantine and run and spread it everywhere.
South America isn't just a jungle. Argentina are Chile have tundra climates in their south, the Andes exist and Bolivia sits 6000 ft high. Mexico contains jungle, forest and desert. All this wild range of climates and inaccessible terrains would allow some holdouts to exist some better than other.
My headcannon has Bolivia and Chile as the only SA countries still having an "official" government functioning. Bolivia still has some considerable population scattered in the mountains due to how inaccessible it is by road in our current world. Chile's government relocated to its Antartican province, and would still hold some islands.
I’m honestly sad I’ve finished both games. I wish and possibly hope a third one is made. I don’t play a lot of video games but damn these were perfect for me
No doubt bro, the story was completely perfect. I’m just waiting on the multiplayer for TLOU 2
rafiyu mahmood so is the multiplayer for tlou2 going to be like the first one and do we have a release date
If you're looking for RPG games I would recommend Horizon Zero Dawn, the gameplay is really interactive and the story is very well written.
Alya Nasrawi THX. I’ll look it up and look into it.
Jacob Moreno LO2 story is the worst sequel to a game
I like to think that in stories where we only see America's perspective of these apocalypses,
That the rest of the world is not affected and is just normal.
Kinda like a 27 days later scenario.
Well, we do know for sure from in game lore that 60% of the world’s population is dead. That means roughly 4.5 billion people. The us only has 330 million. So the rest of the world being unaffected is impossible. But as I mentioned, ND have themselves stated that it’s actually 90% meaning only 750 000 000 people are left on the planet. Now if that means 750 million healthy people or 750 million healthy and infected people is hard to tell. But what’s not is that the rest of the world is definitely as screwed as the US
you tube have you looked at the US today? 👀👀.
TheLuftwaffle - Pretty sure he was being sarcastic fool
@@theluftwaffle1 our infrastructure is a mess, we wouldn't do so hot. Just look at our covid response
@@TheiPadCat 750 000 000 before Last Of Us 1 and 2, 104 after Joel, Ellie and Abby went on massive killing sprees.
If you look closely at the post-apocalyptic Kremlin promotional art, you can see soldiers patrolling the streets with their dogs.
The red flag flies over the kremlin again
@@lakeblackBLM There's a red flag over the house of Parliament in the London picture too.
@@DaDunge Looks like the USSR came back and took over the rest of the world.
Since all Europeans and Americans know very well that the Russian Government is very stricted and isolated from the rest of the world. They'd probably have some isolation protocol and it wouldn't be surprising if they survived, China has a same concept government, but because the Chinese live very crowded and have more than a billion citizens. It would be just unlikely for them to survive. Russia would be the most likely, cold climates, Siberia would covers their back because the mold wouldn't be able to grow in freezing temperatures. Canada would be likely to survive too. But i'd like to see if they can make a next part to include the rest of the world somehow in it, maybe restore internet etc to contact other scientists from other countries. See if there is any life in other parts in the world. Maybe Ellie travelling to search for a cure. Who knows
@@lakeblackBLM Communism is the salvation of humanity.
one thing I am sure is that people on north sentinel island are living the same lives they lived for last 50,000 years
Yeah it would be fun to make a last of us mod about the north sentinelize trying to keep out non infected from coming to their island. My understanding is they can’t have contact with the outside world bc of all the diseases we carry that they aren’t vaccinated against?
Maybe they were onto something
Banging their sisters and eating each other
Coming back to this as last night we got our TLOU HBO episode that showed how Jakarta, Indonesia reacted in the early days of the pandemic, or at least how their medical professionals reacted. Will be very cool if we get more lore like this!
The sad thing is, at least regarding Indonesia, that the government probably didn't bombard Jakarta as the lady suggested. The reason I believe this is because knowing how governments in general would react, they would be all like "muh but the economy, surely we can control the spread". And assuming that Jakarta was where the infection started, even bombarding the city wouldn't do much considering they would've already exported contaminated products to other cities and nations.
I really want to see what the infected population is like in different extreme climates.
Also... I feel like people in the game don't take the spores and mold as serious as it would actually be... You really couldn't go into a store and like... Stock up and chow down if you were starving without serioualy risking getting the virus... And along with so many other basic mundane tasks in TLOU.
P e r s e p h o n e . A n n YEAH. I want to see how desert infected and like, Alaska infected react to all those years of growing
Well we have the mountains in both one and two as well as the shamblers, which was hinted to be a new mutation due to the huge amount of rain that Seattle gets
@@confusedwhiteman7776 Then why do they appear in the Santa Barbara part?
Many countries were locked up in early years reallisticly maybe some areas got infected but not much
@@boyanpetrov1683 Santa Barbara typically has intense rainfall for short periods of time, which would benefit the creation of Shamblers (who molt from a clicker subject to moisture).
Going by current Covid19 pandemic & going by how USA is one of worst countries & governments to deal with it, it may be safe to assume most of the world is dealing a lot better than USA with managing & containing Cordycep outbreak
The Cordycep outbreak was probably a mild flu that the rest of the world dealt with sensibly and quickly. It mutated and evolved at a rapid rate in the USA due to the massive spread because they believed it to all be a hoax and refused to wear their masks and go to Disney World.
The difference here is that cordyceps is transferred through bites and food, not airborne (other than spore areas). The US has frequent recalls for ecoli, so that would be a big factor.
I feel like if people were to see what the virus does on a physical level (rotting eyes, erratic behavior) everyone would believe it. You can't see covid, so it's up for debate to them. Even if you're disabled from it they don't see the proof because well, brain damage is more common than melting eyeballs.
A minority of people might just be insane enough to believe essential oils or whatever useless drugs they have will cure it, or they'll pray it away, or purposefully get infected so they'll grow immunity like chicken pox, but they'll die off quickly.
That's what i thought...... but remember USA faced spanish flu VERY WELL (compared to many european countries, considering also that in europa it was the end of a global war), it's NOWADAYS with a stupid leadership that the country is in danger......it doesn't t depend on genetics or what you have, always is people and their behaviors the key of success or unsuccess.... you can have the most advance airplane, but if you put a monkey as a pilot, results will not be great
@@kaitokisser_ actually, you don't see any viruses, so if you don't believe it because you cannot see, that means that you're really stupid and uneducated......so that's how would you describe americans nowadays?? (I would say yes)
Considering when the virus broke out, the USA would have handled it considerably better than you guys hadn’t handled Covid because Obama was still in charge.
He put money into WHO and the places that needed support in a pandemic such as this one, like hospitals, third world countries and poorer countries like Africa... he made sure there were enough resources for a pandemic. Trump decimated all of that and pulled all of the funding and groundwork that Obama had put in place.
In the Last of Us 2 it's confirmed that Canada's society didn't fall yet!.
In the part of the ghostship, there is a note of the captain, it basically says that they were able to make contact with the authorities in Vancouver.
Unfortunately, I think that note it almost 25 yrs old so it may be out of date
@@jamesthorpe4378 That would explain why Owen didn't consider Vancouver as an option.
That doesn’t mean that Canada is better off than the US, just means that the quarantine zone in Vancouver hasn’t fallen when the note was written.
It was early outbreak, so chances are there are no survivors in Vancouver. Or there may be..
@@JD-gh4tr there are off
What scares me is that eventually every infected will turn to bloaters
I dont think every infected turns into a bloater! Only the ones, where the fungus has a really favourable host for growing... we see many infected just dead and molten into a wall.
But yeah for sure there would be more and more of them!
most hosts eventually rot/die before that happens tho. bloaters/shamblers are very rare cuz they have to survive like 20 years with the fungus
Can bloaters take 5 us marines with .556💀😂😂
No the bloaters are large people. The smaller ones die of starvation or something else.
@@LatinW321yes
I would love to play a Last of Us pre sequel about Joel's time during the 20 years after losing his daughter.
Very little was said about that time period, but during Joel and his Brother's arguement at the Dam, his brother can only explain it as Living in Hell.
I hope Naughty Dog will make The Last of Us Part 3, to focus on the rest of the world.
Yes
@Guilherme Oliveira focus on the rest of the world or something, I'd really love to see what it was like during the early days of the virus
@@AngelFlipz Yeah exactly. I'd also like to know if Joel thought about suicide after losing Sarah just like Henry. What exactly kept him fighting for over 20 years? I would like to know what things he found to fight for.
Part 1 - sets up world, sets up characters.
Part 2 - controversial story, play as unknown/unliked character for a significant part of the story. Tries to make the player think about morals and shit.
Part 3 (prediction) - will be a prequel that follows Joel and Tommy (maybe perhaps see more of Bill from the first game) and shows how they survived outbreak day
@@CrusardModding definitely dammit I wish a game like that already existed :(
I can't even Imagine how life in Africa would be like in the last of us world.
Probably not that bad... They have a lot of guns because of the civil war and they don’t have the money to buy coffe and cocoa (the thing that spread the cordicep at start)
Ploeanix HD I think some people in Africa are so spread out from each other that maybe the pandemic didn’t hit them really hard.
BlazingFire_07 some parts of Africa are tightly populated though, but in the other parts probably true
Clicker rhinos
Fungus develops in wet and dark areas, I don't think africa has many of those, as everything's dry and warm
If anything africa should be the best place
17:24 those art pictures of Last of Us style apocalypse in Europe are really cool. I like to see some art concepts similarly in Asia like for example China or Japan or India.
I think asia would be much like america in that there society would be collapsed as well.
@@SpaceRaptor510 I am not entirely sure about that I can imagine it still be different than of America.
@@itsblitz4437 maybe QZ equivalents and what not. I think it would be chaotic and in a societal collapse regardless
@@SpaceRaptor510 and probably also ridden with overgrowth from nature
@@itsblitz4437 forbidden palace covered with vines
If the cordyceps happened in Australia, most of it would be okay. The majority living in cities wouldn’t survive but for some of us, myself included, living in isolated towns would live high in the mountains or in the desert with the natives and wait it out, or just go to Tasmania or another island off-shore and live there. Plenty of options for us. Oh and the wildlife here will take good care of the zombies.
js imagine a kangaroo fucking up a cordyceps feels like something i would see in a fever dream💀💀💀
The picture from holmenkollen actually tells a lot about the situation in Norway. As seen in the picture it looks as if it was just abandoned before the outbreak. There isn’t any junk, barricades, shacks or signs of infected. This implies that the city got a heads up and it’s richer population likely evacuated to their cabins. This makes me believe that although the country lost its city’s due to the fungus, the state is probably alive and is running stuff from further inland or a smaller city. And a few cities is probably alive like Jackson in tlou 2.
Other countries shut down early, tested and
wore masks. Eradicating the fungus mutation all together within 3 years. In the US, they thought it was a hoax and refused to follow any scientific guidelines before it was too late and the fungus got out of control. Other countries closed down their borders to the US and moved on. Hence the title The Last Of Untied States.
Rough
No that would never happen, I mean it’s not actually happening or anything
@@tabcon1888 Be happy its just an airborne respiratory disease and not a horrific zombie fungus mutation.
grrr america bad
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It'd be interesting to see how certain countries handled the outbreak. If countries more isolated geographically or isolated in trade did better initially. It seems like it would've took longer for the outbreak to reach them. But it is more complex than that. I also wonder what the population looks like. I'd assume that less than 1% of the population is left. Looking at the United States and how empty it is but that could still leave us with millions of people spread out across the world.
I mean some places definitely handled it better initially. But what’s interesting w tlou is that those places weren’t necessarily the most heavily and densely populated areas. Boston was arguably the place best off in the entire game but it also happened to be the place (save for Austin) that was the most densely populated prior to the outbreak. And yeah I’d say the same. Unlike something like the walking dead though, the same probably goes for the infected.
@@TheiPadCat Island wouldn't noticed that the outbreak even happened.. lol
I’d love to see what happened to Australia and New Zealand in this game as they super isolated.
the thing with island countries is that when the virus hits u have limited space and no where to run
well usa is quite empty by deafult by seing hom much apart cities are
10:05 "a virus that's only killed a few thousand people so far."
That comment really puts the time difference into perspective.
Imagine if coronavirus was cordyceps. America and Europe would be totally overrun (while debating if gas masks protect you from spores) while China would be chilling
@@lakeblackBLM i dont think so no at the start europe was actually handling the virus america did not as the ignored everything but yes right now it is as you say but in europe outbreak started in italy which is geofrapjily secluded from the rest of europe so i think europ would fall way later than america if it would fall to the same extent in the first time(well if you compare it with curent situation it is a bit blrak) but the food inported from usa is quite monitored in general as we have a bit more regulations so i think we would stop the import of food from USA immideatly after receivin the news of infected crops i think at least
@@lakeblackBLM China would definitely not be chilling lol
@@hotsaucejosh8982 as a chinese person, I have to disagree. Our military is a lot stronger than during ww11
@@Thirsty4Thirst China’s military has nothing to do with it; considering how densely populated China is a virus that basically turns people into killers wouldn’t be easy to control. Even with restrictions to keep the number of infected to a minimum that would simply result in riots and protests breaking out (like in real life) so it would all be futile. Literally no one would be chilling except maybe Switzerland, Nepal and ect due to their small population and geography.
Honestly if they made a third The Last Of Us I'd love to see the other countries.. Maybe we could have new characters from different countries, like a smaller group
They're making a TLOU3
I just hope part 3 isn’t it for the franchise. I’d love a Joel prequel movie (video game universe) or game, and possibly a series that’s canon in that universe but not really connected
@@Us3r739
Agreed, I hope we get a third game and then a prequel with Joel and Tommy of the first 20 years
@@ALT1308_its been a year later. Is that confirmed?
This video is missing some very important information that's impossible to miss, regarding the US outbreak. Tommy explicitly says the east and west coasts were already inundated by the time he, Joel, and Sarah are fleeing in the prologue-and that other cities across the country were also being hit hard.
And the virus appear in Brazil
@@wtfisthis96 it's a fungus
No question -- the coasts are toast!
see in the heat of the moment I kinda missed that important info back when I played it. If you look online there is a map that outlines exactly where they went when the game started. When it fast forwarded 20 years they went all the way north east. Now it makes since. Anywhere in the west was done.
@@wtfisthis96 Brazil? Where did they mention that? Also the tv series made it Indonesia
I'd love a spin-off happening in this universe but in another continent, like Europe)
Same. Not main game but spin off for sure
My ideas for a different setting would be that the UK has faired a tad better (some personal bias there) and your part of a military unit or something going to mainland Europe in search of something like a cure.
Could centre around a close unit of characters and you could have missions in various Cities, Paris, Amsterdam, Rome etc Think it'd be pretty cool!
@@JackRabbit002 they wont, UK is even more dense than america and there's almost no guns there, they are at worse position than america.
@@sunshineskystar true, but the UK exports (or did, at the time) mostly flour and sugar (which are implied to be the carriers of the initial mold) from the EU, not from South America; only about 5% of the UK’s flour is exported, and much of their sugar comes from mainland Europe. Also considering it’s an island, in the context of the game, it’s likely the UK would’ve been infected later and probably therefore had a lot more time to prepare, though you’re right in that it would’ve been harder to contain the virus once it had arrived.
@@JackRabbit002 UK would fare far, far worse in this situation. Outside of maybe Scotland and some of the surrounding islands it would probably be almost completely lifeless.
16:33 Interesting how England in the game behaved exactly as they behaved now with this pandemic...
Well I think the measures put in place against a sickness that turns people into mindless monsters would be a bit harsher than what’s happening now. But yeah I guess the fundamentals are the same
@@TheiPadCat "the worst affected countries tend to be the origin of the disease". Today China is one of the least infected, while the US is the worst. Telling, isn't it, how this narrative of blaming those who first discover the infection works... Blame sure doesn't help you deal with it neither.
Be funny if China in this world is pretty much unaffected after also stemming the outbreak early on instead of looking for a scapegoat
Gold & Silver VS Crisis & Collapse sorry to burst your bubble but China is most definitely lying about there numbers
@@Sebastian.A nope. Prove it. Go on. You see what you are feeling deep inside is a reflexive sense of patriotism, or hatred for a nation that is far different from your own. Do you really think China can silence a hundred thousand infected families? A million? One moronic doctor tries to start a panic at the beginning and ya'll latch onto him but fail to notice the startling lack of evidence for a coverup
Gold & Silver VS Crisis & Collapse there’s already been countless whistleblowers not sure how you think China works but they’re very good at silencing opinions heck they don’t even allow there own people on American social media websites and do a very good job
Imagine a game based on a family crossing the border into Texas outbreak day. Would be a very interesting story
I love how this video came out 2 days before the COVID worldwide quarantine
Thanks for the great vídeo and your analysis. In the destroyed gallery, I noticed Buckingham palace has a stronghold on top, with barbwire and satelite dish. Also the flag is not British, so probably some faction. You can see people outside near the canal in Moscow, and a dog!. You can see also people in the firecamp on the last picture of the gallery. Fantastic!!
I’m glad you enjoyed it Gilvan! And yup, a lot of the other ones have similar fortifications but they all look kinda abandoned-ish. The one depicting the royal palace in Stockholm also has a ton of barbed wire and lookout towers on the roof. But it’s hard to tell if it’s still inhabited. And yeah, I also saw some military trucks at the very corner of the Moscow one :) didn’t notice that last one though!
You have such an amazing talent for storytelling and analysis, you should consider making this available in a podcast as well! You’ll be the best person to have an TLOU podcast where you can invite people to discuss the game and theories with you.
I agree with you.
The fact that this was published on march 13 , 2020 is crazy
Omg i didnt realize that, nuts
You're unlikely to see this on a 2 year old video now, but I'm replaying the series at the moment.
As you enter thr Sewer System after pittsburgh, the shiv door you unlock that leads to one of Ish's first notes, there's a pin board with a tonne of newspaper clippings on it.
One of those clippings is about the UK ceasing immigration.
dang, the brexiteers got their wish
This is interesting to revisit. The running show states that the infection spread through tainted wheat flour and points Jakarta as ground zero.
And i love how Joel in the show brings to light that everything went south in just a weekend.
Considering that many people got infected at the same time across all over the world. And with a a very short incubation time. It was over before it even began.
I'm glad you mentioned this because I'm reading lots of the other comments and not one of them is taking into account the part about how you can get infected through the flour. In which case, I don't think it matters how isolate your country is, if you import any of this stuff, you're doomed.
The US has by far the most powerful army but there are countries which are survivalists from the start, better suited to fight the infected.
Abelaid Loera. bruh We can’t even get people to wear masks for the safety of their peers.
@@jacobmoreno9698 time to go to Canada!
Jacob Moreno Just Imagine getting those type of people to wear a gas mask “ItS ToO rEsTriCTiNg AnD TigHT!”
@@jacobmoreno9698
TBH from what I am seeing with Covid, I am far more scared of the government then i will ever be from Covid.
@@thetype97chiha2 yeah but they would just get shot point blank if they got infected. So at least they wouldn't last very long lol
Very good analysis and details to expand on our understanding of the game's lore. I agree totally with your points.
By the way, there is an Australian actor named Grant Bowler who was in a US SyFy channel production called Defiance that would make a good Joel. He plays a character named Nolan, who was special forces and survives an alien invasion to reluctantly become the surrogate father of a precocious alien girl.
Thank you Vincent! And that sounds like someone that could fit the bill for Joel, I’ll have to check him out!
I actually watched Defiance. It's not a bad show. I like the setting of Earth and alien races in it.
The guy who plays the butcher in the boys would kill it as Joel
@@TheiPadCat Defiance is a great show. Or at least tbe beginning was. I didn't watch the later seasons, I think I remember the plot not being super engaging, unique, or intelligent.
Funny. You've uploaded the video on Friday 13th 2020 - the last day before before our (Czech) government issued a sudden lockdown of many establishments.
I went to a pub with a friend that day. She proposed to get a beer, I first refused as I was tired from work. But then I got thirsty (we Czech are like that lol) and so we went to grab a few. There was a 21pm "pub curfew" issued already. So we called it a day around 21pm, I went home, went to sleep and when I woke up, we were under lockdown.
We were both so glad I decided to go drinking that Friday. I originally offered Saturday. :D
"City of Thieves" is a book written by David Benioff (a head writer of the Game of Thrones show, among others) that depicts his grandfather, Lev Benioff's, life during WWII Russia as he was sent out on a strange mission through Leningrad. The name Lev also was used as inspiration in TLOU2 for the Seraphite character that becomes Abby's sidekick. ALSO, in the first moment of the Abby gameplay in TLOU2, where is she is seen sleeping on a cot with a book on her chest, the book she's reading IS "City of Thieves." The inspiration runs deep.
One thing that end-of-the-world zombie stories intentionally left out is that, probably lots of nuclear power plants across the world ( maybe all of them ) would go full meltdown. Since very few, or likely all of their human crew tending them.... would be dead or zombiefied. So, the survivors wouldnt only have to survive against a horrible infectious disease, but also quite heavy radiation pollution, many time worse than Chernobyl.
Modern reactors don't work like that at all, an active but abandoned plant would enter a safety shutdown and turn itself off after a short amount of time although in the worst case scenario a "meltdown" still wouldn't spread much radiation
Actually if you look closely in some cities you can see smoke coming from what I'm assuming a fire made probably by man, in the castle at 17:38 you can see I think a satellite and a medical flag and the photo from Sweden on the building you can see another satellite and some wire, I am actually glad some people found and rebuilt these places and lived there for a while just like Jackson
Yeah, the reason I didn’t say any others beside Russia and England showed any signs of life is those two are the only ones we can see for sure. Yes many others have signs of people having lived there at one point or another, but for all we know it could be long since abandoned - because we don’t see any humans, electricity nor any other stuff pointing toward people still being there. Yes there may be smoke, but what’s to say that’s not just someone like Bill, living all by themselves in the town? I would hardly call that civilisation
I would also just like to point out - whether this is intentional or just a common mistake - that in the Newspaper, it says "ENGLAND", not the UK or Great Britain. This could mean that countries within the Union such as Scotland or Wales completely collapsed, or that there was a mass-migration to England. It could also just be that Scotland, Wales and NI all declared their own martial law independently, splitting apart from GB. Or, as many American people do, the ENTIRE UK is just being summed up as 'England' (very wrongly).
I would love to see TLOU set in the UK, would be very cool :)
7:10 lol, the video was made just a few days before COVID became a global pandemic
You're forgetting the Cordyceps fungus lives on very wet environments. Reproducing itself on dry cold-hot places would be a mejor obstacle for the fungus to overcome. Thus, I think more countries than we could expect survived, more specifically those located very far from the Ecuador latitude.
Lmao imagine being stuck at the top of burj Khalifa tower when this stuff happens
That could be a great game. The Last Of The Burj. Like each mission is a floor and you scavenge for supplies then you have hope when you reach the bottom floor and look outside only to see 100,000s of Zombies. The screen goes dark and you hear a single gunshot!
@@topsdaily_productions yeah but that would have no story and the entire game would be just based in exploiting a small scenario
@@topsdaily_productions it would be so cool if there was a last of us game of ppl around the world and one of the stories/chapters, will be about ppl stuck at the burj
@@danielromero001 Its possible. Maybe the Burj could be a "town" of sorts with various floors representing a caste of society (top floors are elites and bottom are workers). And there could be an incident where the infected break inside and the main character has to climb to safety where the elites dont want any lower class members inside. It could have a Halo Reach story where the dooms inevitable but it could still work.
@@topsdaily_productions not possible 1 these ain’t zombies 2. Most of them died 3. No
England declares martial law
Karen's: I pay taxes
Well at that point it’d just be natural selection
Lol
“Pandemics in the past...” Oh oh...
But what I never heard anybody mention - not only did the world end on Joel's birthday, he lost his daughter the same day.
It would be really interesting to see how isolated countries survived. Like that island with no contact with the outside world. Or maybe a country like North Korea thriving
Only if said countries didn't import any of the corrupted food sources.
Imagine being on the international space station...knowing your watching the earth collapse and no one is coming to get you.
THAT WOULD GO SO HARD. I’m gonna write this
If there’s one message to take home from the Last of Is series it’s to shop from your local supplier and support local businesses….especially when it comes to flour based products
I'm not sure how many didn't see the newspaper, but when you guys go collect the Sewers Note. There's a newspaper stating something about the European union has closed off Air Travel to the Americas. The writing is hard to read, but I was able to see some parts of it. Also Ellie is still immune, just trying to hide her immunity. (I haven't played part 2 yet but I'd love too.)
Go into part 2 with an open mind.... The game can be very divisive with many hating it but I believe it is a masterpiece in every sense of the word. A must play even if just to find out where you stand
@@saiyanroyalty229 ok
Canada apparently got the infection much later. Even by early october, there were 0 infection in Vancouver, which is the 3rd largest city in the coutry and a VERY busy port. Had to the fact that winters are very harsh and the population is scatered in an emormous land: the cortycept might have a hard time spreading efectively. Just a though
Well considering the source is questionable to begin with and over 25 years old by the time we find it, it’s hard to confirm whether or not it’s accurate. It’s strange for sure that Seattle was hit so hard and not Vancouver. And I doubt the winters had any effect considering what we see during the winter sections in both games, but who knows.
An overgrown new orleans/lousianna always interested me, with the swamps and flooding engulfing the area with wildlife and seeing how people survive in that environment
The infected there would definitely be nasty with the swamp humidity
I have to imagine that some small island nations, like those in the south pacific, might have endured the CBI pandemic fairly well compared to the rest of the world. Those islands would be same from roaming infected and would have land that they have to guard, so they could more easily root out any infected that are on the island. They also could rely on fishing for a lot of their food, which would be a lot less vulnerable to cordiceps fungus contamination. A lot of those islands also benefit from year-round favorable temperatures for growing crops and not freezing to death.
I would imagine the US has at least one of the Hawaiian islands secured and used as a main base, since they're remote, warm, and large enough to have a fully functioning society yet small enough to control with limited forces.
We get a dialogue scene, from the outside world, with this: ...
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I see the infection couldn’t out pizza the hut
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So many details I didn’t know or missed! Part 2 has a chance to clear things out a bit.
Maybe we’ll find a plane crash site that would tell more about it.
And again, an episode where you travel from town to town on a car could be one of the ways to tell things about the world as well. 🤔
Well I’m glad there’s still stuff we all can learn about this game despite it closing in on being 7 years old :) and yeah that could be really cool! Reminds me of a scene in fear the walking dead that provides the characters with information on what happened elsewhere in the US, so it could totally work!
The fact that this video was uploaded on March 13th 2020, two days before the U.S. shut down due to COVID...
I would think many island nations could still be okay, as keeping the infected out would be much simpler than countries connected to other countries. Madagascar, Seychelles, Maldives, New Zealand, Samoa, even places like Svalbard and the Faroe Islands, despite their heavy reliance on import products, could still be functioning reasonably well.
The image of Battersea Power Station is such a powerful (forgive me) piece of storytelling, and implies so much about the status of civilisation on the island of Great Britain. Notably, two things occur to me. First, that the visibility of the columns of black smoke suggest that this is far from a clandestine operation, that those who are operating the station are likely doing so either at the behest or with the permission of whatever authority remains in place. Thus, an organised society within the city of London is possible, and the possibility is compounded by the fact that a station the size of Battersea would likely easily be able to supply the power needs of whatever remnant population exists within London, even quite a sizeable one. Second, and perhaps much more significantly, is that the image implies the existence of a coal-mining operation capable of supplying fuel to the station. The fact that all of Britain’s coal mines are located hundreds of miles away from London further implies an infrastructure able to deliver significant quantities of coal over long distances. One possibility is that the railways in the UK remain in operation, or were re-started at some time in the preceding years. Whether the British government has existed continuously in some form since the outbreak, or whether a rebel group seized power at some point, or indeed whether some organised force arose to fill a power vacuum, the image of the power station implies a reasonable effort of recovery within Britain and probably a decent quality of life for its citizens, maybe even with pockets of Jackson-quality living.
I wonder how much we can infer from the current Covid-19 pandemic? I imagine here in Europe they may develop a range of bows/crossbows for self defence. I could see people in European quarantine zones having daily archery practice.
Return of chivalry maybe?
@@lucasfragoso7634 I wish!
Comparing TLOU's cordyceps lethality rate of 100%, to covid's lethality rate of 0.3% (for the most vulnerable) ?
I keep hearing from people, more and more that if you get Covid-19 it is pretty much a death sentence, if you get it you better pray because you will most likely not survive it, this is what I keep hearing everyone say.
I've always thought, " what if North America was fighting through a zombie apocalypse, but the rest of the world continued as normal. And it was just someone testing a disease." That's how I look at most zombie stories.
Well we know for sure that’s not the case in the tlou universe. While the WHO was still functioning, they confirmed 60% of the world’s population had died. That means roughly 4.5 billion people. Which is more than 10 times the US population. The rest of the world being unaffected is impossible. So is only the west being affected since it only has about 1 billion inhabitants.
Even if the 90% thing isn’t true, which I am very certain it is. It still means the entire world is screwed in one way or another
@@TheiPadCat i always wondered what happened to Japan and North Korea, Japan could just have closed it's borders and move it's people to the small little islands and North Korea there's no need to explain. Even if they have a good trade relation with Argentina wich is in South America
Great video Very very interesting stuff man and very appropriate for what has been going on lately.
Thank you rhino! And I suppose so
7:08 Seeing that this video posted 3/13/2020, right before covid is crazy.
This also explains why CBI was said to have started in the south and spread northward, rather than spontaneously appearing all over the place and converging together on the maps. It started in South America and spread from there
After living through 2020....there were probably parts of the world that managed to not suffer as much while the US collapsed into madness....then again, the thing that bugs me most about this particular zombie style is that it's a jungle fungus and I just don't see how it could survive the deserts of Arizona/the brutal cold of Wyoming
Well, at least while it's still in a human body, it's still at a stable temperature of about 98.6 F.
Considering our handling of CoVID-19, I reckon NZ had about a 25% chance of survival, depending on who's in power. Our borders are fairly easy to close off, though we are somewhat dependent on certain imports, and our economy is largely predicated on export and tourism.
Yeah, exactly. I feel like most island would have similar changes. Most Caribbean island, for example, closed the borders very very early and many island still have their borders closed until further notice, like St Kitts and Nevis.
In a situation like The Last of Us, the main issue for Caribbean islands wouldn’t be the disease but food shortages and the destruction of the tourism industry
The world building in tlou is on another level, the game continues to impress me with all the small details
The bison thing makes me think of the fact that part of the premise of the game/show is that global warming has caused the mutation of the cordyceps, so it makes sense that bison would migrate north and many people would as well.
I actually want a zombie game to not just switch 20 years later and the world is post-apocalyptic. Let's say there's a zombie game based on Paris. And then Paris and the rest of the world just slid into chaos. And that's the story. You just live and survive in the newly infected world. Not just travel 20 years later.
This would be so cool to see like how society dies, like what happens with nuclear power plants? Farms? Etc
Completely agree. My biggest pet peeve with the Zombie genre is that we rarely get to see or experience the initial outbreak and the Fall Of Civilization. Imagine an entire game similar to the first 20 Minute of TLOU.
Battersea power station wasn’t a power station anymore when the outbreak happened. It was being turned into homes instead.
I wonder why the chimneys were smoking....perhaps some of them could still be made to function.
i can actually find small signs of life in some of the other promotional arts mostly in the backgrounds on top of that the fact there is still fire going on in some of them like the paris one could also be a good indication that there are still people alive somewhere.. the olimpic ski jumping one too in the background it almost looks like in that building there is a light.. now it could be a reflection but the fact that it's a picture that looks like it's nearing evening hours it kind of makes sense.. on top of that you said it was 20 years after the outbreak.. a fire especially in a city wouldn't go on for that long.. in a forest yeah maybe but i'm guessing those are signs of the remnants of humanity
The flag on Buckingham Palace changed, there's also some scaffolding and a radar dish
Just a small thing about the spanish flu: while it wreck havoc around the world, it never "nearly" caused any colapse of any sort. It was a major, major crisis, maybe even worse than the recent pandemic, but certainly not a society ending event.
Does anyone have a "End of the world scenario" backpack? I.. i cant be the only one right?
I’ve had one since i was 12💀💀
I have one too
A backpack isn’t enough.
I do
@@baneofbanes yea im always torn between a backqack or to go full on "I am legend" with a hiuse and shit
I fear Portugal migth not have survived... still got happy to see a couple of promotional artwork depicting Portugal.
Why do you think so? I mean, I know Portugal isn't a very big country in terms of territory and population size, but I would like to know the specific factors that make you fear that outcome (Military, Health Security, Transportation, etc.). Just to know, of course.
@@gabrielomarturratorres5138 Portugal is in Europe and right there, with Spain, so of course Portugal will be bad, like the rest od Europe, I think New Zeland, Hawaii, Greenland and other islands will be safe.
@@wtfisthis96 Fair point. Kind of sad and tragic when you think about it. I personally don't like to think too much how my country would fare in such scenario, cause I'm pretty sure we would be one of the worst to respond adecuately to it (greetings from Chile 🇨🇱).
7:57 And civilians. Here in Poland at most only 1 out of 200 Poles have any amount of guns. At least there are still firearms without a need to register such as firearms with separate loading produced before 1885 or their replicas or air guns.
England being late to take action during a global pandemic is just too painfully accurate.....
You missed an opportunity to call this video "What Happened to the Rest of Us in the Last of Us?"
Feels so weird watching this video now, especially after waves after waves of Covid. Crazy.
It was posted like THE day of it being announced
@@purpleplanet128 just saw the video release date after reading your comment. Holy crap, dude.
A spinoff in a different country would be interesting to say the least, to see how the cordyceps impacted different nations and perhaps unique variations of infected thanks to the local climate! I remember they mentioned in the first game that 60 percent of the world was killed in the early days of the outbreak.
Being in America during this pandemic I’ve realized that if this game was real it’d play out the exact same way.
Heck you would even have people refusing to wear gas masks when there’s spores.
Idk which species is worse; you don’t see clickers screwing each other over
Ehhhh I don’t know about that. A cough for a few weeks is different from a super fungus that makes people eat each other. I’m sure people would be far more afraid.
@@Soulthief4056 or they’d just take a snake oil or false reassurance and refuse to follow any precautions or evacuation orders. Both denying the situation and denying help.
The third game should take you to another country.
Like Ellie finds out there’s people trying to make a cure in Japan, England or Australia and that’s where the game takes place.
I love theory’s like this because, in zombie games and etc. I am always curious of how the rest of the world handled the viruses. It’s scary but at the same time it’s so cool. Knowing and learning how other country’s are standing. Makes the games mysterious and amazing
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The should make a dlc(s) based in separate parts of the world that are near equivalent in size as the U.S such as eastern Europe, or Some parts of Asia. I’d definitely pay money to play something like that.
I found a highly likely that Endland as a island nation wouldn’t have to declare martial law as soon as if it shut its borders sooner than other nations, plus everyone I meet in England seem to be strong, and we actually have some gun problems in some city (where I live is a smaller city in a good location for setting up a QZ zone so I found a highly likely with the styling and the power of the United Kingdom would survive somewhat like America did.
Seeing how we handled covid19 I’m sure it would make it in, however the government could relocate to balmoral castle or or an aircraft carrier or even an overseas territory like the Falkland island. So mostly alright.
@@lukemcgahern2357 I agree with you, but also we have to remember there is a lot of strategical places in the British Isles itself, so it’s more likely for the Polish government to relocate to another smaller city less affected (kind of like how America did with Boston)
Also, you know what happened in London, the part where you are in the sewers with Sam and Henry, where the third note from Ish is, there are newspaper clippings saying that London is in a state of emergency, and the UK government has closed its borders for good
Well in Part II according to either Ellie or Dina, Jess always wanted to see the water falls up in Canada, a group of people who escaped San Diego by Boat on Outbreak day set their Destination for Vancouver and Vancouver confirmed that there weren’t many reports of infected there so it’s possible they could’ve survived, but the boat never made it there and it had to port in Seattle because people got sick, some already turned and a lady with bow and arrow skills killed all the sick people whether they were infected or not and the captain already locked that lady in her cabin and tied her up, they had a struggle and killed each other and by then so many people turned and were banging on the captains door and they both bled out and the captains last words were “could she have been right!” And it’s so coincidental how you released this video on my last day of school back in 2020 due to Covid Lockdown, it was my sophomore year of High school and I’m sure the only country who’s probably fully protected at a time like this is North Korea lolll
oh my god, I just stopped and paused this at "only killed a few thousand people so far".
This is early 2020.
It just says "2 years ago" and I just physically recoiled from my own computer screen. Gosh, I wish it'd only been a few thousand. I wish it'd been no one at all.