Most DEFINITELY!!!!!! Klatt gives us A TON of information and validity about his views on the game, not over the top silly antics (ala Steven A on ESPN) in an attempt to draw attention to themselves and away from the topic at hand. Not all ex Players or Coaches make good analysts (ala Warren Sapp - Randy Moss - Mike Ditka - Marty Schoettenheimer.....etc), but Klatt breaks that mold!!!!!!!!
Joel, I like that you start your list at the end and work your way up. Much more interesting that way than the reverse like everyone else. You and Daniel Jeremiah on draft days will be a great follow.
Zach Wilson’s arm is next level. He is a supremely gifted thrower. The bonehead mistakes are exactly why he’s a complete bust. “Watch the throws he makes!” What about all the throws he doesn’t make? Stroud didn’t make the same kinds of mistakes at OSU that Maye made at UNC. It’s a high risk high reward situation.
Maye is definitely the riskiest top 7 QB. If Daniels can't quite be an elite QB he's still an elite runner. Decision making is fantastic among McCarthy, Penix and Nix. Rattler has played in a pro style and his game vs Maye I thought he looked like the better player even getting sacked every play. Maybe is a project, he might work out or he might be Zach Wilson because his decision making can be rough to watch at times. Not as forgiving in the NFL as in college.
So what you're saying is that he needs Brian Daboll of the Giants. Just like Josh Allen who was pretty much the same prospect out of college. And he needed 3 years to grow and become the current Josh Allen.
Dumb comments with terrible examples that are not true. 1. Zack Wilson played in a Covid shortened Big 12 Conference season. Defenses aren't talented in the Big 12. 2. C.J. Stroud played with a great offensive line and great WR'S. Drake Maye had a terrible O-line and only one above average WR. Plus the NCAA held that WR out for several weeks. 3. Drake Maye's 2023 completion percentage was 63.3% His turnover worthy throws are very very low. 4. Drake Maye's WR's dropped several passes in EVERY 2023 GAME! Conclusion: Your comments on Drake Maye are not very intelligent.
Kamari Lassiter is so underrated. He was either 1 or 2 in completion percentage amongst corner straight lock down in man to man and can play in the slot or outside the numbers
@@oryan404yeah I’m tired of hearing about mhj.. Joel saying he’s the best receiver he’s ever covered is plain ridiculous.. wasn’t even the best receiver this year
Drake Maye at #5 is the most insane thing that I've ever heard. I will tell you why he will get someone fired. He went freaking 8-5, He competed for nothing, he played South Car, AppSt, Minn Pitt, Syrr, Campbel, Duke. He did not win when it mattered most. I think if Klatt screams loud enough he will convince himself of this insane take. I've watched the tape and at the most critical moments he came up short. Drake Maye is not even the top 25 best player in the draft let alone #5
I do think Maye will absolutely succeed in the NFL. He has the size and IQ. His weaknesses can be corrected. He is keeping himself out of the media so his stock is not rising like it should be. I do not think McCarthy is as valuable as recent media coverage says he is. He certainly will not have the time in the backfield in the NFL he had in college but, we will all see in 2-3 years how they have done.
I the don’t think it’s media making JJ it’s the NFL. They look at who his coach was in college and the system he played in. They also look at his age which he is younger then Maye and doesn’t make same mistakes and has good mechanics and footwork.
Thank you Joel. I met you at the Denver airport last year, before the draft. I said hello while we were waiting for our flight to John Wayne. I brought up Kendre Miller and Charlie Jones. You were really cool.
What’s crazy is you say you don’t know why anyone is gonna knock drake maye yet you knock Jayden for an injury concern and he doesn’t have a injury history! Absolutely crazy! Your biased for some reason it sure why but you are! You can’t knock someone for something they’ve never had!!!!
What’s up Klatt! You should do a top 50 returning/new prospect players for the 24/25 season. Or 25 offensive players and explain why then 25 defensive players and explain why. Much love, i appreciate you!
I love Klatt and this is one of the better big boards I've seen, but there are a few rankings that I strongly disagree with them being at least 12-15 spots off from where I have them: Too High- -JC Latham (I have him 40th, don't get the hype on him at all outside of the size) -Chop Robinson (36th, love the upside but no production and clearly a project) -Michael Penix (58th, good arm talent, don't love the processing, inability to throw from outside the pocket) -Tyler Guyton (44th, just not a ton of good tape and seems like a medium upside project) -Troy Franklin (67th, I'm simply wayy lower than consensus on his tape and I think his athleticism is slightly overestimated) -Zach Frazier (51st, good prospect but lower upside and he gets buried a bit by how much I love Barton and JPJ) -Xavier Worthy (49th, I'm scared he's too light and becomes just a faster Jalin Hyatt. Bad feel against zone coverage too) -Ja'tavion Sanders (69th, his testing numbers have pushed him down the board for me, but I do like the tape) -Tyler Nubin (77th, I just don't know if he's a good enough athlete at safety - 2.91 RAS) Too Low- -Ladd Mcconkey (26th, I swear if this kid was black he'd be a consensus top 15 prospect lol. Insane route running, fantastic RAS, great athlete) -Graham Barton (18th, I think as a center he's up there with Tyler Linderbaum and Creed Humphrey as the best in years) -Cooper Dejean (11th, His testing put him over the top for me. Him and Quinyon are 1a and 1b CBs) - Joe Alt (5th, not a huge difference from Joel, but having Fashanu over him is... strange to me) - Malik Nabers (4th, he's the best WR prospect I've seen not named MHJ since at least J'Marr) Not Ranked- -Xavier Leggette (38th, Was very surprised to see Pearsall over Leggette. Love both, but Leggette is phenomenal) -Jonah Ellis (41st, For the life of me I don't know why this kid hasn't gotten more buzz) -A couple others, but those were the main two that stood out to me.
I like Joel other then the cheap swipe he took at Colorado State during the “Coach Prime” adulation tour. But a good guy nonetheless. And valuable info from a guy steeped in the college football scene who by his own words watches not only tons of games but also film on those individual players. Keep up the good work Joel. And even though I’m not a Michigan fan it makes sense giving some of these guys love that others have not when they simply dominated college football this year. Probably some steals from that underrated group.
Dang I think these rankings are spot on! The only change I would make is probably having Mckonkey higher and Coleman lower. Glad to see an analyst not buying into the “Bash Drake Maye” bandwagon. Dude is a stud and as a Commanders fan, I will be pretty mad if we pass on him.
Jets are currently at the 10 spot in the first round, but hearing rumors they may move back for Colts to move up. I haven’t heard anyone talk about the Jets drafting a QB. Aaron is at the point he has at most a couple of years if he doesn’t get hurt again. They need their next QB now.
The people who keep crying that their not sold on Drake May, don't understand the QB position, and don't know arm talent when they see it. Drake May was North Carolina. They wouldn't have done half of what they did without him. The mistakes Drake made were from the fact that he didn't have a great team, or elite receivers around him, so he was trying to do everything because he's competitive and wants to win. Had he, with that arm, had Washingtons receivers, or the Texas receivers, or the LSU receivers, then we would probably be talking about a Heisman and an all time great season for a QB. He has elite arm strength and accuracy, can make every throw, and can anticipate throws, throw to spots, and throw receivers open.
What has changed in the past month that made you move jj mccarthy above penix from your qb rankings from a month ago where you ranked penix as the 4th qb and McCarthy as the 5th qb? I get confused by players rising and falling so much when no games have been played
I’m a huge fan of you and the show. Great content as always. But you gotta take some risks man, you can’t just say that you love all the QB’s. You gotta think at least one of them will bust. In reality, 3-4 of them will
@@willzinc6137 dropping form 5 to 9 doesn't really hurt your stock. I'm talking really hurting your stock going from 5 to 20 for example. Either way they get drafted and paid.
Very rational picks. Respect. But of course it's based on top 50 players not on team needs and how they will draft. I expect QBs will be in demand and go higher than predicted here. Penix will go high in the draft, although Raiders wish he would fall to #13.
I respect the heck out of you Joel but I'm floored you love Maye this much. I've been telling all my buddies "just go watch the tape" too but for the opposite reason, I think he's a nightmare. Inconsistent mechanics, misses easy throws every drive. What am I missing!?
Joel, I get Maye to Washington but do you trust Kingsberry and Quinn w/his development? Long term. Not just a flash in the pan like Kyler’s first couple seasons w/Kingsberry? I know the new regime in Washington. Just curious. Is maye one of the guys who can overcome franchise turmoil ?like a mahomes, Burrow, id argue Allen in Buffalo too. They had maybe 2 winning seasons in the last 10 yrs before his rookie yr
What franchise turmoil exactly Dan Snyder is gone. Cliff said he not running same offense he did with AZ. He said plans builds offense around players. Our new owner is committed to changing this team around and not being in the way. Willing to spend whatever to make sure players have what they need in terms training and health. Dan is a good coach and leader of men players want to play for. He brought in a great coach staff that develops players. Heck he is the reason Parsons is who he is as a player. He went from just a MLB to Von Miller basically, and Parsons said this himself. I’m 50/50 on Maye and Jayden I don’t care which at this point.
@@jessejuarez559 I mean definitely get that mindset of Washington ,for the last 20 years you be right heck last year you be right. New owner basically cleaned house old players that have been hear since 2017 were pretty shocked by the new atmosphere. Saying everyone is far more positive. The coaches are forcing everyone to get know each other, because there needs to be family environment, build that camaraderie with teammates. I’m loving what I’m hearing. Ron good guy but had to much responsibility and wasn’t good at getting coaches around him. His drafting was also bad you could predict who was going to pick and was always a reach.
Offense: 1. Caleb Williams 2. Marvin Harrison jr 3. Malik nabers 4. Rome odunze 5. Drake maye 6. Brock bowers 7. Jayden Daniels 8. Joe Alt 9. Brian Thomas jr 10. Ladd mckonkey
I love the list I respect you more then any other analyst out there but Joel I don’t understand all the love for jj McCarthy I really don’t I’m splitting hairs here but I don’t think he’s better then Bo or penix imo #14 for a guy we never really seen have to go win the game. He reminds me of the few Ohio state players that never had to either that got drafted high and never panned out. Still think he’s the number 6 but I’d easily drop him to 30 range imo love the show klatt much respect
Really like the list. I’m super high on Ladd because of his ability to separate and his great hands. Hoping the chiefs don’t grab him at 32 or the league could be in trouble with him in Andy Reid’s system catching passes from Mahomes.
After ACTUALLY WATCHING DRAKE MAYE TAPE i can tell you this much - yes, you do occasionally (kinda rarely) see unbelievable throws, the kind that you rewind a few times and still can't believe. BUT the guy is missing like 30% of his check down throws(literally up to 10 yards), he stares down wide open receivers and doesn't throw the ball to them, almost half of his plays he's just watching his first read and waiting for him to get opened. If football was about having 5 tries to make an unbelievable throw, he would be the number 1 pick hands down, but it simply isn't. With all of that said, teaching a QB the "easy" stuff is after all possible, while teaching one how to throw a " 60 yard, running full speed sideways, off of one leg bomb" isn't.
Great stuff Klatt as a Broncos fan, Bo Nix is the guy I would like to see us draft. Not only a good fit, but dont have to give up the franchise to move up and get him with such risk involved (cough cough, McCarthy). One thing that makes me curious, is that we have brought in Jayden, JJ, Penix for private work out, and not Nix. Is there lack of interest, smoke,......or is the private work out not needed?
"cough, cough McCarthy"....sounds like you didn't watch him play. All the incisive insight of Mel Kiper with Tom Brady, "Does not have the total package of skills for an NFL quarterback." How'd that work out...?
@@buckhorncortez They are wrong on a lot of these guys, every year. Of course Brady endorses him, he's a wolverine. There are just way too many question marks (in my opinion), to give up the farm to move up for him. If the kid is there at 12, awesome. If not....no thanks. :) (and a lot of that has to do with the Broncos previous terrible mistakes that have placed us in this hole). I am not trying to attack JJ as a player, I just think there is more of a chance he ends up a Zack Wilson like talent, than a Tom Brady lol. (and if someone moves up giving up all their draft assets, that talent better be closer to Tom Brady)!
See Joel your "just watch the tape" mantra doesn't move the needle in regards to Drake Maye. I can say the same thing about Penix. Are we forgetting the most important part of playing QB is between the ears? Pre snap movement and reads, post snap reads, moving through progressions at lightning speed, moving defenders with your eyes, freezing defenders in zone, looking off safeties, all things Penix does way better than CW, Maye, and anyone else. I don't care about the throws "he can make" when he misses 4-5 easy plays in between those great throws. Jay Cutler made some beautiful throws but that didn't make him a great QB. Maye looks like a scared deer in the pocket at times, is more hesitant than CW moving through progressions( which is saying a lot), and he drifts to his throwing side constantly creating his own pressure. He's very raw. If Washington takes him with a Kliff offense he'll bust in two years, I hate to say it. You and other analysts are right when you say, "we're overthinking it", but you're referencing it for the wrong player. Penix will be QB1 of this class sooner than later in the NFL because he's already playing QB at a high cerebral level. He's playing chess while these guys are playing checkers and he's gonna make a lot of teams look real stupid.
@@samc231 explain how “I’m trippin”. That’s the point, is he glosses over some(not all) of Mayes shortcomings and it’s all excusable because he makes beautiful throws on tape? That’s crazy. Playing QB is soooo much more complex than making pretty highlight throws.
If you say it’s the deepest draft you’ve covered, why is everyone saying there’s no depth in the later rounds because of all the players staying in college because of the extra Covid eligibility years?
Love Joel but can’t get over the fact that we never talked about JJ all season being a day 1 pick… nevermind a top 10 pick… look at his stats against the top team she played…. Outside Alabama he never threw over 200 yards against ranked teams…
Hey what’s up Joel as a day 1 it’s been fun seeing your platform grow to where it is now. 2 questions 1. I can hear your passion whenever you talk about Troy Franklin just curious who would you Comp him as? Would you say he’s closer to Stefon Diggs? 2. Last question as a gators fan how far are we actually from getting close to a championship program again in your opinion? #gogators #ItWasAnEpicDayInCollegeFootball
Drake Maye's ceiling is Daniel Jones and his floor is being a backup in XFL. Number 3 player in the draft is absolutely absurd. Klatt should be embarassed for that take.
Maye's tape is what has made scouts and the draft community cool on him. If you just watch highlights yeah he's special. But in full games he has major red flags.
kind of odd what he said about maye. "just watch the tape". i mean thats what chris simms and kurt warner only do.... as casual fans, drake maye's highlight tape is awesome. but thats not what simms and warner do.
Joel you are the man! More of you on tv needed. Less of the ESPN types (loud, obnoxious, clickbait takes).
Oh yeah hes the antiespn
For reals
Most DEFINITELY!!!!!! Klatt gives us A TON of information and validity about his views on the game, not over the top silly antics (ala Steven A on ESPN) in an attempt to draw attention to themselves and away from the topic at hand. Not all ex Players or Coaches make good analysts (ala Warren Sapp - Randy Moss - Mike Ditka - Marty Schoettenheimer.....etc), but Klatt breaks that mold!!!!!!!!
You can just say Stephen A. We all know, and we all agree
@@96256ifyhe is just one of several
Joel Klatt is a good listen. Not obnoxious. Articulate. Knowledgeable.
Joel you are crushing it in the booth on those ufl games.
Joel, you are simply the best in the business.
what’s up brother ☝🏻
☝️*
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Joel, I like that you start your list at the end and work your way up. Much more interesting that way than the reverse like everyone else. You and Daniel Jeremiah on draft days will be a great follow.
Zach Wilson’s arm is next level. He is a supremely gifted thrower. The bonehead mistakes are exactly why he’s a complete bust. “Watch the throws he makes!” What about all the throws he doesn’t make? Stroud didn’t make the same kinds of mistakes at OSU that Maye made at UNC. It’s a high risk high reward situation.
Agreed. He needs a great QB coach, or Maye will be the next Zach Wilson...
Maye is definitely the riskiest top 7 QB. If Daniels can't quite be an elite QB he's still an elite runner. Decision making is fantastic among McCarthy, Penix and Nix. Rattler has played in a pro style and his game vs Maye I thought he looked like the better player even getting sacked every play. Maybe is a project, he might work out or he might be Zach Wilson because his decision making can be rough to watch at times. Not as forgiving in the NFL as in college.
The risk is even higher than with Zach Wilson. His mechanics are more inconsistent which leads to him missing easy layups
So what you're saying is that he needs Brian Daboll of the Giants. Just like Josh Allen who was pretty much the same prospect out of college. And he needed 3 years to grow and become the current Josh Allen.
Dumb comments with terrible examples that are not true.
1. Zack Wilson played in a Covid shortened Big 12 Conference season. Defenses aren't talented in the Big 12.
2. C.J. Stroud played with a great offensive line and great WR'S. Drake Maye had a terrible O-line and only one above average WR. Plus the NCAA held that WR out for several weeks.
3. Drake Maye's 2023 completion percentage was 63.3% His turnover worthy throws are very very low.
4. Drake Maye's WR's dropped several passes in EVERY 2023 GAME!
Conclusion: Your comments on Drake Maye are not very intelligent.
Kamari Lassiter is so underrated. He was either 1 or 2 in completion percentage amongst corner straight lock down in man to man and can play in the slot or outside the numbers
Morning Joel! Love this time of year 🎉
If Harrison is the #2 player in the draft, Notre Dames CB who covered him must be the best of all time.
TRUE....lol he held Harrison to like three or four catches with about 20 to 25 yards.
@@oryan404yeah I’m tired of hearing about mhj.. Joel saying he’s the best receiver he’s ever covered is plain ridiculous.. wasn’t even the best receiver this year
Drake Maye at #5 is the most insane thing that I've ever heard. I will tell you why he will get someone fired. He went freaking 8-5, He competed for nothing, he played South Car, AppSt, Minn Pitt, Syrr, Campbel, Duke. He did not win when it mattered most. I think if Klatt screams loud enough he will convince himself of this insane take. I've watched the tape and at the most critical moments he came up short. Drake Maye is not even the top 25 best player in the draft let alone #5
Hearing “here’s what I love about Bo Nix … his FEET” got me 😂😂
I’m glad I’m not the only one who caught that, I had to pause the video😂
Joel is the man... best overall talent insights and no BS. Your rock, Joel!
Mikey, Colson, JJ, Wilson, ALL the Oline bois, not just michigan wolverines, bona fide Michigan Men 😤
I'm a Michigan fan myself but Michigan Men...what does that even mean?
@blud7065 you're not a michigan fan
Bona fide 6 year senior team who cheated for 3 of those 6 and was 2-4 in 2020. Every player and coach will be exposed at the next level lol
Great show Joel need more of this kind of stuff
Great Job always Joe Klatt love your Breakdowns Analysis on your Thoughts on Draft Prospects and Football College NFL
I do think Maye will absolutely succeed in the NFL. He has the size and IQ. His weaknesses can be corrected. He is keeping himself out of the media so his stock is not rising like it should be. I do not think McCarthy is as valuable as recent media coverage says he is. He certainly will not have the time in the backfield in the NFL he had in college but, we will all see in 2-3 years how they have done.
I the don’t think it’s media making JJ it’s the NFL. They look at who his coach was in college and the system he played in. They also look at his age which he is younger then Maye and doesn’t make same mistakes and has good mechanics and footwork.
If Maye goes to Washington and Nix goes to Minnesota. Who has a better career?
Thank you Joel. I met you at the Denver airport last year, before the draft. I said hello while we were waiting for our flight to John Wayne. I brought up Kendre Miller and Charlie Jones. You were really cool.
What’s up brother ☝️
Nice reference Joel
That was an odd 'highlight' for Penix (completion off a tipped pass).
I'd have to say that Vince Young was a better college QB than Caleb Williams.
Where's Corum Joel??
Not too many RB’s here in the top 50, round 3 gonna be RB heavy
All these qb's could be great at the next level. Imo where they land matters more.
Thank You Father Klatt
What up brother got me liking the video right away.
Respect. most of your list but your drinking the cool-aid on Drake Maye...Ive seen Pinnex Jr make Those same throws.....but hey u could be right
What’s crazy is you say you don’t know why anyone is gonna knock drake maye yet you knock Jayden for an injury concern and he doesn’t have a injury history! Absolutely crazy! Your biased for some reason it sure why but you are! You can’t knock someone for something they’ve never had!!!!
What’s up Klatt! You should do a top 50 returning/new prospect players for the 24/25 season. Or 25 offensive players and explain why then 25 defensive players and explain why.
Much love, i appreciate you!
I love Klatt and this is one of the better big boards I've seen, but there are a few rankings that I strongly disagree with them being at least 12-15 spots off from where I have them:
Too High-
-JC Latham (I have him 40th, don't get the hype on him at all outside of the size)
-Chop Robinson (36th, love the upside but no production and clearly a project)
-Michael Penix (58th, good arm talent, don't love the processing, inability to throw from outside the pocket)
-Tyler Guyton (44th, just not a ton of good tape and seems like a medium upside project)
-Troy Franklin (67th, I'm simply wayy lower than consensus on his tape and I think his athleticism is slightly overestimated)
-Zach Frazier (51st, good prospect but lower upside and he gets buried a bit by how much I love Barton and JPJ)
-Xavier Worthy (49th, I'm scared he's too light and becomes just a faster Jalin Hyatt. Bad feel against zone coverage too)
-Ja'tavion Sanders (69th, his testing numbers have pushed him down the board for me, but I do like the tape)
-Tyler Nubin (77th, I just don't know if he's a good enough athlete at safety - 2.91 RAS)
Too Low-
-Ladd Mcconkey (26th, I swear if this kid was black he'd be a consensus top 15 prospect lol. Insane route running, fantastic RAS, great athlete)
-Graham Barton (18th, I think as a center he's up there with Tyler Linderbaum and Creed Humphrey as the best in years)
-Cooper Dejean (11th, His testing put him over the top for me. Him and Quinyon are 1a and 1b CBs)
- Joe Alt (5th, not a huge difference from Joel, but having Fashanu over him is... strange to me)
- Malik Nabers (4th, he's the best WR prospect I've seen not named MHJ since at least J'Marr)
Not Ranked-
-Xavier Leggette (38th, Was very surprised to see Pearsall over Leggette. Love both, but Leggette is phenomenal)
-Jonah Ellis (41st, For the life of me I don't know why this kid hasn't gotten more buzz)
-A couple others, but those were the main two that stood out to me.
I like Joel other then the cheap swipe he took at Colorado State during the “Coach Prime” adulation tour. But a good guy nonetheless. And valuable info from a guy steeped in the college football scene who by his own words watches not only tons of games but also film on those individual players. Keep up the good work Joel. And even though I’m not a Michigan fan it makes sense giving some of these guys love that others have not when they simply dominated college football this year. Probably some steals from that underrated group.
Great breakdown of top 50👏👏👏
Joel, love the show. Just recently started watching this draft season. One question, do you think Sweat drops out of your top 50 after the dui?
Dang I think these rankings are spot on! The only change I would make is probably having Mckonkey higher and Coleman lower.
Glad to see an analyst not buying into the “Bash Drake Maye” bandwagon. Dude is a stud and as a Commanders fan, I will be pretty mad if we pass on him.
“Drake Maye will get you fired” 😂
Love listening to you, man. I remember when you attended Pomona High School. Seems like forever ago.
WHATS UP JOEL ☝🏼
3:40 agreed. Roman is top 50. How he dropped to 3rd round baffles me. This dude is a straight up dawg. Steelers got a good one💯
I feel like the QB hysteria means people arent talking enough about Bowers and some defensive guys.
The texas Dtackle is awesome. He cooked bama
Byron Murphy is the best DL in this draft period!
QB and WR Hysteria!!!
I think Brock Bowers is the #3 player in the entire draft?
1. Caleb Williams
2. MHJ
3. Brock Bowers
Thanks Joel, great breakdown video
This a good list! Only thing is I can't take rome over nabers I love rome but nabers more complete and explosive
Sketch has made it to Joel
*X Weaver from CU is better than a few of those late picks you got there… Had a better season (while healthy) than most of them too*
LOL KLATT IS AN EX COLORADO QB. HE WOULD PUT WEAVER THERE IF IT WERE CLOSE. I DONT BELIEVE HES GETTING DRAFTED UNTIL 6TH OR 7TH IF HES LUCKY
Jets are currently at the 10 spot in the first round, but hearing rumors they may move back for Colts to move up. I haven’t heard anyone talk about the Jets drafting a QB. Aaron is at the point he has at most a couple of years if he doesn’t get hurt again. They need their next QB now.
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Drake Maye = Mac Jones 2.0! Lol ..I never seen a bad highlight tape!!!
Do you think Zinter would be on there with no injury?
Joel what film database do you use?
The people who keep crying that their not sold on Drake May, don't understand the QB position, and don't know arm talent when they see it. Drake May was North Carolina. They wouldn't have done half of what they did without him. The mistakes Drake made were from the fact that he didn't have a great team, or elite receivers around him, so he was trying to do everything because he's competitive and wants to win. Had he, with that arm, had Washingtons receivers, or the Texas receivers, or the LSU receivers, then we would probably be talking about a Heisman and an all time great season for a QB. He has elite arm strength and accuracy, can make every throw, and can anticipate throws, throw to spots, and throw receivers open.
What has changed in the past month that made you move jj mccarthy above penix from your qb rankings from a month ago where you ranked penix as the 4th qb and McCarthy as the 5th qb? I get confused by players rising and falling so much when no games have been played
Great stuff as always Joel
I’m a huge fan of you and the show. Great content as always. But you gotta take some risks man, you can’t just say that you love all the QB’s. You gotta think at least one of them will bust. In reality, 3-4 of them will
Joel ur show is the best. Ppl don’t even know. Sweat droppin out that top 50 asap
Carter's fatal crash while driving reckless and drag racing didn't hurt his draft stock.
@@rogwarrior1018 it didn’t “crash” but he def fell a little bit. He was the number one prospect. He fell to 10 and lost some millions
@@rogwarrior1018 It did hurt his stock. He went at 9. Would've 100% been top 5 without that crash.
@@willzinc6137 dropping form 5 to 9 doesn't really hurt your stock. I'm talking really hurting your stock going from 5 to 20 for example. Either way they get drafted and paid.
T'Vondre Sweat likes to day drink. I remember those days. Cheers, Joel!...💯
Can you do a top 3-5 for each position ? I know it’s gonna be long but we have about 3 weeks left till draft haha
Ya I'd love to see tiers by position.
Very rational picks. Respect. But of course it's based on top 50 players not on team needs and how they will draft. I expect QBs will be in demand and go higher than predicted here. Penix will go high in the draft, although Raiders wish he would fall to #13.
Wow. Surprised you don’t have Spencer Rattler in the top 50. Not a first round but definitely a second round pick.
Was hoping Corum could sneak into your top 50, but it's understandable. Hoping he will go somewhere that values him
I respect the heck out of you Joel but I'm floored you love Maye this much. I've been telling all my buddies "just go watch the tape" too but for the opposite reason, I think he's a nightmare. Inconsistent mechanics, misses easy throws every drive. What am I missing!?
Payton Wilson and co DESTROYED drake maye and Payton was the best LB in football last year but not in the top 50?! What’s missing on film klatt?
Joel, where do you rank Xavier Lagette? I try to compare your lists with Kiper's list. He's got him at 25.
Joel, I get Maye to Washington but do you trust Kingsberry and Quinn w/his development? Long term. Not just a flash in the pan like Kyler’s first couple seasons w/Kingsberry?
I know the new regime in Washington. Just curious. Is maye one of the guys who can overcome franchise turmoil ?like a mahomes, Burrow, id argue Allen in Buffalo too. They had maybe 2 winning seasons in the last 10 yrs before his rookie yr
What franchise turmoil exactly Dan Snyder is gone. Cliff said he not running same offense he did with AZ. He said plans builds offense around players.
Our new owner is committed to changing this team around and not being in the way. Willing to spend whatever to make sure players have what they need in terms training and health.
Dan is a good coach and leader of men players want to play for. He brought in a great coach staff that develops players. Heck he is the reason Parsons is who he is as a player. He went from just a MLB to Von Miller basically, and Parsons said this himself.
I’m 50/50 on Maye and Jayden I don’t care which at this point.
Good points. I should just let my previous thought on Washington out the window and see how it goes.
@@jessejuarez559 I mean definitely get that mindset of Washington ,for the last 20 years you be right heck last year you be right.
New owner basically cleaned house old players that have been hear since 2017 were pretty shocked by the new atmosphere. Saying everyone is far more positive. The coaches are forcing everyone to get know each other, because there needs to be family environment, build that camaraderie with teammates. I’m loving what I’m hearing.
Ron good guy but had to much responsibility and wasn’t good at getting coaches around him. His drafting was also bad you could predict who was going to pick and was always a reach.
Offense:
1. Caleb Williams
2. Marvin Harrison jr
3. Malik nabers
4. Rome odunze
5. Drake maye
6. Brock bowers
7. Jayden Daniels
8. Joe Alt
9. Brian Thomas jr
10. Ladd mckonkey
Marvin is better than Caleb and it ain't even close
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@@AlexCreedon-ce1hn yes easily 💯
I love the list I respect you more then any other analyst out there but Joel I don’t understand all the love for jj McCarthy I really don’t I’m splitting hairs here but I don’t think he’s better then Bo or penix imo #14 for a guy we never really seen have to go win the game. He reminds me of the few Ohio state players that never had to either that got drafted high and never panned out. Still think he’s the number 6 but I’d easily drop him to 30 range imo love the show klatt much respect
Does anyone else think that Alt is a little low? Seems very polished and ready to play at the next level...
Really like the list. I’m super high on Ladd because of his ability to separate and his great hands. Hoping the chiefs don’t grab him at 32 or the league could be in trouble with him in Andy Reid’s system catching passes from Mahomes.
After ACTUALLY WATCHING DRAKE MAYE TAPE i can tell you this much - yes, you do occasionally (kinda rarely) see unbelievable throws, the kind that you rewind a few times and still can't believe. BUT the guy is missing like 30% of his check down throws(literally up to 10 yards), he stares down wide open receivers and doesn't throw the ball to them, almost half of his plays he's just watching his first read and waiting for him to get opened. If football was about having 5 tries to make an unbelievable throw, he would be the number 1 pick hands down, but it simply isn't. With all of that said, teaching a QB the "easy" stuff is after all possible, while teaching one how to throw a " 60 yard, running full speed sideways, off of one leg bomb" isn't.
Great stuff Klatt
as a Broncos fan, Bo Nix is the guy I would like to see us draft. Not only a good fit, but dont have to give up the franchise to move up and get him with such risk involved (cough cough, McCarthy).
One thing that makes me curious, is that we have brought in Jayden, JJ, Penix for private work out, and not Nix. Is there lack of interest, smoke,......or is the private work out not needed?
"cough, cough McCarthy"....sounds like you didn't watch him play. All the incisive insight of Mel Kiper with Tom Brady, "Does not have the total package of skills for an NFL quarterback." How'd that work out...?
@@buckhorncortez They are wrong on a lot of these guys, every year. Of course Brady endorses him, he's a wolverine. There are just way too many question marks (in my opinion), to give up the farm to move up for him. If the kid is there at 12, awesome. If not....no thanks. :) (and a lot of that has to do with the Broncos previous terrible mistakes that have placed us in this hole). I am not trying to attack JJ as a player, I just think there is more of a chance he ends up a Zack Wilson like talent, than a Tom Brady lol. (and if someone moves up giving up all their draft assets, that talent better be closer to Tom Brady)!
How does Sweat's DUI over the weekend effect his draft? Does he slide to the 3rd round? 🤔
curious if this was recorded before that news broke?
He will probably drop and if he does drop to the 3rd (what I’m not sure about) you 100% take him.
@@elliotwilkinson8784 100% agree. That makes him an absolute steal if so!
Don't think he slides that far.
The Georgia kid the eagles took was in an accident racing that ended up with a death he slipped like 6 spots
@@sprintstothebathroomdaily2429 true that. great point
Finally someone has Ladd McConkey ranked properly, some analyst have been overrating him like crazy smh
Joel, enjoy your work
See Joel your "just watch the tape" mantra doesn't move the needle in regards to Drake Maye. I can say the same thing about Penix. Are we forgetting the most important part of playing QB is between the ears? Pre snap movement and reads, post snap reads, moving through progressions at lightning speed, moving defenders with your eyes, freezing defenders in zone, looking off safeties, all things Penix does way better than CW, Maye, and anyone else. I don't care about the throws "he can make" when he misses 4-5 easy plays in between those great throws. Jay Cutler made some beautiful throws but that didn't make him a great QB. Maye looks like a scared deer in the pocket at times, is more hesitant than CW moving through progressions( which is saying a lot), and he drifts to his throwing side constantly creating his own pressure. He's very raw. If Washington takes him with a Kliff offense he'll bust in two years, I hate to say it. You and other analysts are right when you say, "we're overthinking it", but you're referencing it for the wrong player. Penix will be QB1 of this class sooner than later in the NFL because he's already playing QB at a high cerebral level. He's playing chess while these guys are playing checkers and he's gonna make a lot of teams look real stupid.
Joel Klatt glosses over all of Drake May's shortcomings. He is a 'coach killer' but you're trippin' if you think Penix is QB1 !!
@@samc231 explain how “I’m trippin”. That’s the point, is he glosses over some(not all) of Mayes shortcomings and it’s all excusable because he makes beautiful throws on tape? That’s crazy. Playing QB is soooo much more complex than making pretty highlight throws.
9:05 Byron Mitchell lol... must be related to Adonai Murphy
Penix is a better qb than Daniels… and will have a better career.
DRAKE MAYE PREACH!!
Joel klatt just got JJ McCarthy drafted. 😁
JJ don't forget to get Joel some of that rookie salary. 😂
Naw, JJ's gonna go 3. Joel's actually kind of low on him at this point.
What a moronic statement.
What up brother ☝🏾
"I LOVE NIX. Here's what a love about Bo Nix. His feet."
~Joel Klatt
Leggette, Fiske, Beebe, Kneeland all are top 50 prospects
Shots fired at Chris Simms 😂 he has Maye as QB6
As he should.. he’s not as overrated as Caleb Williams
If you say it’s the deepest draft you’ve covered, why is everyone saying there’s no depth in the later rounds because of all the players staying in college because of the extra Covid eligibility years?
Mike Sanristil is a Michigan Legend
Love Joel but can’t get over the fact that we never talked about JJ all season being a day 1 pick… nevermind a top 10 pick… look at his stats against the top team she played…. Outside Alabama he never threw over 200 yards against ranked teams…
I’m watching this just thinking what is Seattle going to do at pick 16 🙏. Go Hawks!!
Would Brian Thomas be wr1 in last year’s draft?
You like Maye over Daniels, that’s fine. But putting Odunze over Nabers is actually insane
Sione Vaki, Utah is 51..watch the tape.
These evaluators exist to make Weather forecasters look good
Michigan Wolverines are the National Champions of College Football
Best LB in this class easy. He is flying on the field.
Drake Maye will make alot of ppl look bad for hyping him or hating him.
Hey what’s up Joel as a day 1 it’s been fun seeing your platform grow to where it is now.
2 questions
1. I can hear your passion whenever you talk about Troy Franklin just curious who would you Comp him as? Would you say he’s closer to Stefon Diggs?
2. Last question as a gators fan how far are we actually from getting close to a championship program again in your opinion? #gogators
#ItWasAnEpicDayInCollegeFootball
Drake Maye's ceiling is Daniel Jones and his floor is being a backup in XFL. Number 3 player in the draft is absolutely absurd. Klatt should be embarassed for that take.
Sure watch the throws Maye makes. But also watch the throws that he misses!! They're way too frequent and alarming for a top draft prospect
Maye's tape is what has made scouts and the draft community cool on him. If you just watch highlights yeah he's special. But in full games he has major red flags.
kind of odd what he said about maye. "just watch the tape". i mean thats what chris simms and kurt warner only do.... as casual fans, drake maye's highlight tape is awesome. but thats not what simms and warner do.
Sorta surprised that beast wr from S Caro isn’t top 50
What throw that maye or Williams can make that Penix can’t?
Am I really trippin I think penix is top 3 qb
The Xavier Legette disrespect is unreal