Oh sweet, sure beats the hilarious contraption I rigged up to paint my last project at Christmas time. 3487 projects in the queue before I'll be painting my jeep, hopefully I remember this ingenious idea at that time, what with being 125 years old by then and all haha
Great build ,I am at Work Near Ft Mac Plotting my build when i get home to BC,.Its great you have your son involved .I am curious why you put he plastic on the outside ? I was thinking all the nooks and crannies between wood and plastic are place for paint build up which could haunt you later when it flakes ? I was also thinking of a positive pressure Booth to keep dust out rather than the tendency to draw it in. Its great to see Canadian content.Your thoughts on having plastic on inside ?
Thanks for the comments. I'm not sure I ever gave plastic on the inside much thought. You could do it that way. The downsides I could see would depend how you fasten it. If you still wrap it like I did, it will withstand the negative pressure fine. The other downside is you can't fasten things like hooks, shelves and lights as easily. I did experience a lot of paint dust gathering in the wood etc. But it never affected my paint quality. I have a second video on this booth that might be worth watching.
I tried making my own once and the overspray made a cloud that took a while to dissapate. i was using one filter for the intake and another for the exhaust. I had the fan coming from the intake into the booth causing positive pressure. I don't know if I didn't use enough filters or what but I had a ton of dust getting circulated throughout the booth landing on my panels and the poverpray cloud took too long to clear. I had to run the fan on low because at medium there was took much dust. hopefully I just didn't use enough filters. I heard it doesn't matter if it's positive or negative pressure because i think proffessional booths are positive. I guess I can try your way because I need a new booth really soon
Positive pressure that pushes air in will always be less efficient than negative pressure that pulls air through. This is why all radiator fans on cars are now suckers compared to the pusher fans used in the 60s.
That is great advice. I think I have a revised design to vent out a window so I'll try that next. The charcoal is a good backup plan. I see they are around $50.
www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0040ZC5AO/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I'd recommend going no thinner than 4 mil. IF you want to re-use it for many years, I'd go 6 mil.
Nice work man! I am wondering how do you control the temperature of the inlet air or just let it be? I am worrying if the temp would be too cold for the paint during winter even I will be in a garage
Control would be a strong word. My garage is heated with a forced air, down draft furnace. So it has a thermostat outside of the paint booth and it reconciles there. I set it to around 20C when I'm painting. With the exhaust fans going, the furnace pretty much runs steady during the winter time. I didn't measure, but it would get down to 15C by the time the fumes had cleared. I try to close up the exhaust fan as quickly as I can once the fumes are gone to let the paint cure. I used fast dry products where I could and I didn't have any issues. It really all depends how much heat you can generate in your garage (and how cold it is outside).
I had exactly this issue when I painted a grp hardtop in December. I heated my homemade paint booth for 48 hours, it was nice and toasty. Started painting (2k direct gloss) and the mist built up pretty quick. Turned on my fan extraction, which worked fantastically well....but boy it got cold quick! Fortunately it didnt take long and I could tun the heaters back on with the extraction stopped it soon heated back up.
Really good video. I hope to do similar very soon. I have to mention this because I've seen this commented elsewhere but have you thought about the risk of igniting your fumes from one of the electrical appliances? Because you have negative pressure you are pulling the fumes past the fan. If a spark in the fan motor gets exposed to the fumes you could blow yourself up. this also goes for the lights and power strips you have in the booth. If you've already considered this then I apologise but just thought I'd mention it in case you are at risk. other than that. great setup. I'm thinking of going positive pressure.
Great question. So this was my primary concern about building a home paint booth. I worried about this a lot.... I researched it a lot and found very little data on it. This was the tipping point for me about working from home or renting a booth. In the end I accepted the risk. I did look into spark free fans, but they were extremely expensive. In the end, I felt that I would be safe due to the limited concentration of ignitable gases. I made sure I had a lot of high airflow to keep the fumes down. I have no scientific backing for this, but this was the logic I used. Don't paint too much at once. Get very high air flow. If the air is clear, you are safe. Unfortunately not a great reply, but this was my thought process. Positive pressure might work okay, but that is a whole conversation element on it's own.
So you just put filters up top and no fans blowing air in ? Thought you were supposed to put the filters on the exhaust and have the fan blowing in as well? How is it working out for you
There is a lot of debate about negative pressure vs positive pressure. After a lot of reading, I felt negative would work better in my situation. The primary issue with my approach is the potential for explosion. However I think high volume mitigates that issue, hence two large fans. In the end, I had an excellent quality paint job, so I'd say it worked fine. Just keep the air moving.
Hi does your boy have adhd or asd both my kids do Loved the video funny to see that you allowed your son to touch your face without missing a beat (funny because I have people comment on how i do it also ) It just becomes normal ,people just don't understand
Such a well timed question! I actually just re-assembled the paint bay a second time and used a single fan this time. I have found it's simply not enough. If you are painting something as large as a vehicle, you want two fans. The big reason is you want to keep the concentration of ignitable gases to a minimum. Airflow could quite literally save you. I just use garden variety box fans. However if you could get access to an old belt driven furnace fan, that would be the cat's meow. In that way you get the motor out of the paint fumes.
Love it but nothing will remove the smell. Reducer is essentially a gas when it comes out of paint no filter can remove it. But your neighbors aren't in your driveway so you should be fine.
Each of the 6 panels are stand alone. I stack the 4 8x8s together and I stack the 2 10x8s together. Kinda like books on a shelf. Then I move each stack outside and put between my garage and the fence. Unfortunately the plastic did not survive the elements over 3 years of sun, wind and ice. I think I would have been better off with 6 mil plastic. Perhaps something UV protected. OR I could wrap them in a tarp. Unfortunately I can't include a picture. photos.app.goo.gl/ZTCGwKyoxMbsFoBu5 photos.app.goo.gl/NSbdFTsUaDyZjGey9
@@johnniemo Did the same for the front panel of my paint booth. Weather shredded the plastic! Cheap to replace, and dont think I want to re-use plastic that's been outside.
@@kevinwells768 I did re-wrap it with UV plastic at 6mil. Although it's not a great expense to re-do it, I find that the effort is annoying. If you only paint every 5 years, then sure. Will see how long this new stuff holds up.
I was lame enough to stoke the far side of my 40x 40 garrages wood heater.then close it down.raise the shop door just above my fan. Which no longer runs. It was a large belt driven fan.30 inch i guess. Id block the roll up door on either side of the fan.
Jurassic Jack is the MAN!!! Reminds me of my boy.
Boom! Can't wait to try this thanks!
Watch my second video too. I discovered a few things when going to re-use it.
Oh sweet, sure beats the hilarious contraption I rigged up to paint my last project at Christmas time. 3487 projects in the queue before I'll be painting my jeep, hopefully I remember this ingenious idea at that time, what with being 125 years old by then and all haha
Thanks for your input
Great build ,I am at Work Near Ft Mac Plotting my build when i get home to BC,.Its great you have your son involved .I am curious why you put he plastic on the outside ? I was thinking all the nooks and crannies between wood and plastic are place for paint build up which could haunt you later when it flakes ? I was also thinking of a positive pressure Booth to keep dust out rather than the tendency to draw it in. Its great to see Canadian content.Your thoughts on having plastic on inside ?
Thanks for the comments. I'm not sure I ever gave plastic on the inside much thought. You could do it that way. The downsides I could see would depend how you fasten it. If you still wrap it like I did, it will withstand the negative pressure fine. The other downside is you can't fasten things like hooks, shelves and lights as easily. I did experience a lot of paint dust gathering in the wood etc. But it never affected my paint quality. I have a second video on this booth that might be worth watching.
I tried making my own once and the overspray made a cloud that took a while to dissapate. i was using one filter for the intake and another for the exhaust. I had the fan coming from the intake into the booth causing positive pressure. I don't know if I didn't use enough filters or what but I had a ton of dust getting circulated throughout the booth landing on my panels and the poverpray cloud took too long to clear. I had to run the fan on low because at medium there was took much dust. hopefully I just didn't use enough filters. I heard it doesn't matter if it's positive or negative pressure because i think proffessional booths are positive. I guess I can try your way because I need a new booth really soon
I always had luck with negative pressure in a cross draft. So just a huge exhaust fan that sucks air through the front door, that’s a filter.
Positive pressure that pushes air in will always be less efficient than negative pressure that pulls air through. This is why all radiator fans on cars are now suckers compared to the pusher fans used in the 60s.
The filters you have will remove the particulates, but you need an activated charcoal filter along with it, to remove the hazardous materials.
That is great advice. I think I have a revised design to vent out a window so I'll try that next. The charcoal is a good backup plan. I see they are around $50.
Hi good job hey boss where did u get the plastic?
www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0040ZC5AO/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I'd recommend going no thinner than 4 mil. IF you want to re-use it for many years, I'd go 6 mil.
Nice work man! I am wondering how do you control the temperature of the inlet air or just let it be? I am worrying if the temp would be too cold for the paint during winter even I will be in a garage
Control would be a strong word. My garage is heated with a forced air, down draft furnace. So it has a thermostat outside of the paint booth and it reconciles there. I set it to around 20C when I'm painting. With the exhaust fans going, the furnace pretty much runs steady during the winter time. I didn't measure, but it would get down to 15C by the time the fumes had cleared. I try to close up the exhaust fan as quickly as I can once the fumes are gone to let the paint cure. I used fast dry products where I could and I didn't have any issues. It really all depends how much heat you can generate in your garage (and how cold it is outside).
I had exactly this issue when I painted a grp hardtop in December. I heated my homemade paint booth for 48 hours, it was nice and toasty. Started painting (2k direct gloss) and the mist built up pretty quick. Turned on my fan extraction, which worked fantastically well....but boy it got cold quick! Fortunately it didnt take long and I could tun the heaters back on with the extraction stopped it soon heated back up.
Really good video. I hope to do similar very soon. I have to mention this because I've seen this commented elsewhere but have you thought about the risk of igniting your fumes from one of the electrical appliances? Because you have negative pressure you are pulling the fumes past the fan. If a spark in the fan motor gets exposed to the fumes you could blow yourself up. this also goes for the lights and power strips you have in the booth. If you've already considered this then I apologise but just thought I'd mention it in case you are at risk. other than that. great setup. I'm thinking of going positive pressure.
Great question. So this was my primary concern about building a home paint booth. I worried about this a lot.... I researched it a lot and found very little data on it. This was the tipping point for me about working from home or renting a booth. In the end I accepted the risk. I did look into spark free fans, but they were extremely expensive. In the end, I felt that I would be safe due to the limited concentration of ignitable gases. I made sure I had a lot of high airflow to keep the fumes down. I have no scientific backing for this, but this was the logic I used. Don't paint too much at once. Get very high air flow. If the air is clear, you are safe. Unfortunately not a great reply, but this was my thought process. Positive pressure might work okay, but that is a whole conversation element on it's own.
@@johnniemo that's cool, I just wanted to bring it up in case you had not thought about it and went kaboom
:D
I never even thought of this, but I think ten feet wide is closer than I would like when I paint my Vette. I'm thinking 11-12 feet. Hmm
So you just put filters up top and no fans blowing air in ? Thought you were supposed to put the filters on the exhaust and have the fan blowing in as well? How is it working out for you
There is a lot of debate about negative pressure vs positive pressure. After a lot of reading, I felt negative would work better in my situation. The primary issue with my approach is the potential for explosion. However I think high volume mitigates that issue, hence two large fans. In the end, I had an excellent quality paint job, so I'd say it worked fine. Just keep the air moving.
Hi does your boy have adhd or asd both my kids do
Loved the video funny to see that you allowed your son to touch your face without missing a beat (funny because I have people comment on how i do it also )
It just becomes normal ,people just don't understand
Ha! Yes, he's on the spectrum. However it seems to be amplified when he's on camera. He doesn't usually behave that way.
What fans do you use to blow the fumes out?
Do you recommend if I should get 1 or 2 fans as one for blow air in and one for blow fumes out?
Such a well timed question! I actually just re-assembled the paint bay a second time and used a single fan this time. I have found it's simply not enough. If you are painting something as large as a vehicle, you want two fans. The big reason is you want to keep the concentration of ignitable gases to a minimum. Airflow could quite literally save you.
I just use garden variety box fans. However if you could get access to an old belt driven furnace fan, that would be the cat's meow. In that way you get the motor out of the paint fumes.
Love it but nothing will remove the smell. Reducer is essentially a gas when it comes out of paint no filter can remove it. But your neighbors aren't in your driveway so you should be fine.
How you disassemble and store this when not in use?
Each of the 6 panels are stand alone. I stack the 4 8x8s together and I stack the 2 10x8s together. Kinda like books on a shelf. Then I move each stack outside and put between my garage and the fence.
Unfortunately the plastic did not survive the elements over 3 years of sun, wind and ice. I think I would have been better off with 6 mil plastic. Perhaps something UV protected. OR I could wrap them in a tarp.
Unfortunately I can't include a picture.
photos.app.goo.gl/ZTCGwKyoxMbsFoBu5
photos.app.goo.gl/NSbdFTsUaDyZjGey9
@@johnniemo Did the same for the front panel of my paint booth. Weather shredded the plastic! Cheap to replace, and dont think I want to re-use plastic that's been outside.
@@kevinwells768 I did re-wrap it with UV plastic at 6mil. Although it's not a great expense to re-do it, I find that the effort is annoying. If you only paint every 5 years, then sure. Will see how long this new stuff holds up.
Do you have the fan blowing the Air into the booth from one end and just have an exhaust panel at the other end?
I just have two fans blowing out. The in side is filtered but is passive.
I was lame enough to stoke the far side of my 40x 40 garrages wood heater.then close it down.raise the shop door just above my fan.
Which no longer runs.
It was a large belt driven fan.30 inch i guess.
Id block the roll up door on either side of the fan.
Jurassic Jack appearance/courtesy, Xanax.
Just wait till that 27psi hits it
I painted a number of panels right up against the wall this fall. Worked well.
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That kids a bratt