You should add "Versa finish" to the title of the video. A lot of people are probably searching youtube for this style. I found this video by accident but was looking for versa finish videos a few weeks ago without much luck on detailed videos. This is definitely the best one
I just finished my versatube 12 by 36 RV shelter last September. It is enclosed on three sides with the front open and a man door in the back. I was able to build it completely by myself, but being 66 years old, it took me longer than I expected.
I was watching this on my tv on a guest account and I was so impressed that I had to come and comment. I have never seen a creator of your size and the editing skill of a bigger content creator. I don't know how I was recommended your Channel, but I'm glad I was.
@@lancecluster Yeah, it's been a ton of work to get it to this point. And now it's time for all the fussy little details that are going to drag the process out. But I'm excited for the finished product.
Wow! Well done, both the construction and the video. That lift is absolutely the way to go. My knees were crying thinking about the up and down ladder trips required. Looking forward to the completion. Thanks.
@@sambrown8224 nice. The Versa Finish thing is relatively new from VersaTube, so you don’t see many of them yet. Glad this was helpful. What kind of siding will you use?
@@sambrown8224 That ZIP stuff looks pretty cool. I was planning on doing that until I found out that I could just use T1-11 without sheathing underneath, and save a couple thousand bucks.
I have no intentions of building a similar structure, but I loved the video. Clean, easy and chill. Without ever seing your channel before this video had already won me over, and then you mention the Volvo stuff. It's like I want to subscribe, then unsubscribe just to be able to subscribe again. Great work!
Thanks! Yeah, I was on the fence about these until they came out with the Versa Finish option. After having built it, though, I bet it would be cheaper to just get the standard one and add extra 2x4 wall girts.
@tfrasca142 i bet but it will look much better though! Not a fan of roofing sheet metal everywhere, want to use something like hardy board so it can match house that i dont have yet😄 but hoping it all matches and i like how hardy board looks too
Yo my dude! Really happy to have your channel recommended today, great video and incredible editing. I'm currently in the process of constructing a small 14x16 workshop and the marathon finish before winter sets in is a challenge. Couldn't do it without the help of my father and some friends. Cheers mate!
Great overview of the initial process. Seems very doable, if a bit time consuming for a single individual with only occasional second/third hands. Planning on something similar in a year or two but likely will only do a 12x21 or so. Maybe that size will be easier to manage. Looking forward to how it progresses.
Been considering one of these for some time now. Very well done video buddy. I just subbed. Based on the numbers and the size of your channel, a lot of folks agree with me!
I made several call to Versa Tube and I have to report the experience was less than positive. Calls had to be redirected to other departments, engineering had to be involved. I had planned on building a very similar building to yours 7:19 . But they just couldnt get the job done. After about three weeks I eventually gave up and contracted a local company that built the steel frame to order, poured the concrete, and assembled everything for about the same price as I was quoted for a tube frame that did not reflect what I asked for. I am happy that your project went well.
That’s a bummer, but it sounds like it worked out pretty well for you in the end. My experience with VT customer service has been ok, I guess. I had some questions they couldn’t answer about the VersaFinish kit, since it was “a new thing” for them. I really wanted overhangs and the ability to use wood sheathing on the roof and sides, and none of the local garage/carport type contractors could do that for me.
Great video, I am in the process of buying a place, but it has an HOA, so the details on a versafinish install are really helpful. Would be great if you can share your all in cost when it is all said and done.
@johndeninger8905 it is very common where I live, even in rural areas. I got a really good deal on a new build with some acreage, more space for less money than a used home. The good news is that the rules are fairly relaxed.
Great video. Im on my second versa tube building and will definitely use the marking tip while the frame is on the ground. Was a pain doing it after. Now you got me thinking on full osb i stead of just strapping.
@tfrasca142 The guy I dealt with was great. Everything was clearly marked. Nothing came close in price either for me. Had my drawings so passed inspection easily. I'm on forming inspection today.
Always good to sheath your walls first for strength and then the roof sheathing, definitely good to go 5/8 sheathing on your roof if the span is 2’ on center. But I’m jealous, I want to to build one
I would have done walls first if I was doing this is the summer and it was guaranteed to be dry during the entire construction process. But having a roof first has been really nice. I asked the VersaTube people if it would be structurally sound this way and they confirmed.
I’m pretty much working on this thing in real time, so I hope to have the second video out in a couple weeks. Frame inspection is scheduled for Monday, then I can start sheathing the sides and progress should happen quickly from there.
This is the best way to build a garage. I have basically the same setup but with metal exterior. My family builds houses for a living and still we couldn’t come close to the cost savings of a metal building. I actually almost went even cheaper and got a hanger style building, those are super cheap as far as building a garage goes.
I looked at those hangar/quonset hut style buildings too. They're cool but I didn't want to lose that much space on the side walls. I also have a max height restriction with the city, so to make it tall enough for a lift off to the side, the middle was going to be like 20 feet tall.
Thank you. I’m working on the next video now, but I’m in the fiddle little details phase, so progress is slowing down. I want to get the video out this month, though.
I was debating going with a Versatube building (25x36x10, hoa limits me to 900sqft😢) Ill have to get a hold of them to see if a 10' lean-to is possibe with one of these. Great video and I look forward to the next one!
12:35 You mention an expanding collet but even when you hand tighten it seems so loose it looks like a placebo bolt. Maybe the hole was a little too wide?
I think if I was starting today, I’d build something out of wood. I’m doing the siding and finishing out the interior now, and the metal frame does make it more complicated.
Curious how thick is your cement slab? Great video, thanks for sharing as I’m looking to build my own shop like this. Please do a second video, would love to see how it turns out.
Thanks, glad it’s relevant to your interests. I have a second video in the works. Slab is 4” with a 12x16” footer. Also one section that’s 6” thick where the lift will go.
Great video! I’m looking forward to your future videos showing electrical and any plumbing you may add. Did you get a permit for the build? I’m wondering how difficult it would be. Thanks for the great content!
Thanks! I’ll be starting the electrical in the next week or so. No real plans for plumbing, at least not yet. In the second video I briefly talked about the permitting part of this. It’s basically the reason I went with a metal frame. Versatube has an option to buy stamped engineering drawings, and that made getting the structural permit super easy.
Don't know total cost yet, but it's likely close to 30k before electrical and a bunch of little things. I had quotes for 12k (not including the 11k slab) to assemble an all steel building, but the quality wasn't great, and I don't want steel siding anyway.
Always wondered about these kits. Thanks for the info. I still think "Dream Shop" is over used on youtube. If it was a dream shop you would not be building it. I like to call it a realistic shop build. I am in the middle of my 60'x60'x20' realistic shop build. The car lift went in yesterday. Great video.
Hi, Great video! Could you break down the price of concrete slabs, garage frame and extra stuff if possible. Highly appreciated it! Thank you and keep up the good work! 👍👍
Hello fellow Oregonian! Just stumbled over this vid. Reminds me of the cold-formed/extruded building I put up a couple years ago; similar size as well. The CF construction process is slightly different in some ways, but the overall process looks to be pretty similar. Gives me a bit of PTSD watching you put in the self tappers! ha Was surprised to see you are going with OSB/T1. I went with metal sheathing, both roof & walls. My building is fully batt insulated so it took some head scratching to determine how to do it, but mine turned out pretty good and no condensation so far. I'm in Central OR tho and in a drier climate (your trees suggest you're in the valley) but even heating/cooling inside doesn't cause issues. Looks good; subscribed and looking forward to your progress.
Yup, I'm right on the Willamette. We have a small garden shed with all metal siding and roof and the condensation is insane in there in the winter. I'm sure I could have used metal siding panels and insulated enough to prevent condensation there, but for the roof I really like the more solid decking that the OSB under the metal provides. I wasn't crazy about walking around up there with just the metal panels.
@@tfrasca I honestly was sketched out by the idea of walking around on that thin metal roofing, but honestly once you put a couple of starter screws in, to hold it to the purlins, it's shockingly stout. I had to do a lot of walking around up there and it doesn't even deform as best I can tell... and I'm a fairly large dude, too! It's been engineered to take snow loads so it's going to be a lot stronger than we'd ever imagine using such thin material.
@@tfrasca Good question; I had to look this up on my quote. 26G. A few other 'specs' from my supplier's quote in case it's useful to you (I'm not sure what some of it means tho): "20 psf ground snow load, 20 psf min. roof snow load. 120 mph wind speed, exposure ‘C’. 2018 IBC"
@@zippyslug31 Nice. Before I decided to use OSB roof decking, I was going to get 26g, but with the OSB, I was able to order 29g and save a bit on the steel. Are those specs for the roofing material or the frame of the building? Versatube built the frame of mine to the appropriate wind and snow loads, but I didn't think roof material used specs like that. I think my building is 41.4 psf ground snow, 25 psf roof snow, and 124 mph winds. Well over what my area requires.
@@tfrasca try to find in your country/city kind a anti-corrosion industrial wax. Few weeks ago I was waxing aluminium football gate for my son. Looks exactly as your garage - join by join block. But I wax all screws and holes.
So when you get done and you start fitting out the shop, can you hang shelves on the wall or will it have to be free-standing shelving units? I would worry about th weight of the stuff bending the metal that is already supporting wall & ceiling.
I don't know for sure, but I would assume VersaTube would tell you "no". Maybe that would just be to cover themselves in the event of a failure, but I do know that all buildings flex a bit to meet wind requirements, etc. If it was welded, those natural flex joints wouldn't move, and may crack? But really, the bummer about welding the joints would be grinding off all the galvanization before you weld so you don't die from the fumes.
@@tfrasca Yeah, that makes sense. Thank you for the video. I always keep my eyes peeled for different ways to get a workshop. This could be a candidate.
Extend the deck on the sissor, and load 3-4 sheets on the extended deck. Than unload them where needed. Less time going up and down with a single sheet of wood. But nice job.
It's funny that this is considered strange in the states. Kit sheds are the normal thing in Australia from stratco etc. They use c channel extrude and i have a single truss every 2.5m. most builds over there are timber for some reason? Also we love corrugated galvanized sheets in the suburbs. And we use tin roofs with reflective insulation rolls. I don't get why you use wood.
I wouldn’t say it’s strange, but it’s definitely nothing I’ve ever done before. I don’t know why we use so much wood for framing over here. Maybe something to do with the availability of timber? The main reason I’m using wood siding and OSB under the roof is to cut down on condensation, which is a huge issue with metal siding.
Who made up that these are strange in the US? Metal frame out buildings are everywhere near me. The US isn’t a small European monolithic fiefdom as much as people in other countries try to imagine it is. Different areas will have different building methods used. US and Canada have massive timber resources and industries making building with lumber common. The cost of material, speed to build, resistance to condensation, and how easy it is to make alterations vs other construction methods can contribute to its use.
This is pretty normal in a lot of the U.S.. Other places will opt for timber framing due to local costs. Australia and the U.S. are basically the same, but we made good vehicles illegal.
Impressive Giant Erector set! why not putting in reliefdoors in the roof and anchored X braces along the walls like in norwegian barns to be hurrica proof? you have sales in Europe ?
I’m in the Western US, so no hurricanes. But it is rated for 124 mph wind (though I have a hard time believing that). Anchored x braces are self-explanatory, but what are these relief doors in the roof?
@ Hi the reliefdoors can relief over or underpressure so the roof can't lift off in extreme winds, normally hinged on the top and swinginging both ways and sized relative to interior volume
I contacted my city with the basic dimensions of the building, and they said it’s permittable, but that I’d need to provide stamped engineering drawings. So with that info, I got the slab poured and ordered the frame kit. Versatube charged me about $700 for the drawings, which took about a month. As soon as I forwarded those to the city planning department, the permit was issued. Framing inspection is on Monday, and I don’t expect any problems.
25 psf roof snow, and I think 40 something ground snow. I told them where it was being built and permitted, and they make sure it meets the specs. Sometimes they have to put the verticals 4’ OC instead of 5’, or they make the knee braces really long.
I think stick built framing could have been a couple thousand dollars cheaper than the VersaFinish frame. But I would have had to find a local engineer to draw and stamp all the plans, whereas the VersaTube process has that step included for a better price than sourcing it myself. Now that I’m doing the siding, I do wish the framing was wood. So many self-tapping screws…
I’m hoping it’ll come in just under 30k. But that may be optimistic. Definitely considerably more expensive than just getting a standard VersaTube with all metal siding.
@tfrasca142 I can appreciate that. I live in a neighborhood that would be very upset by just a metal building in my yard. I would unfortunately have to go your route as well.
I go over that a bit in the 2nd shop build video. Basically I have no contractor experience and dealing with all the engineering/permitting stuff seemed like a big hassle for a stick build. With this metal kit, I just paid a bit extra for the stamped drawings, and got my permit issued with no questions asked.
10 grand just for the frame? So plus another 10 for the slab, 5 for the outer shell, 5 for all the ancillary stuff like windows, gutters, shingles, insulation, doors then another 5 for electric service and cabling..5 for the interior and odds n ends. and those numbers are on the cheap side of things.. sound about right though? 40-45k$ all said and done?
That’s the first “I don’t like your music” comment that’s actually been funny. But luckily for you, there’s a lot of other music that you can use for your own videos. Hope this helped.
It dropped a couple really big limbs and was getting dangerous. Not to mention, we were spending 4 months of the year picking up hundreds of apples a week of the ground. We were going to take it down to the stump, but the arborist thought it might live if we just chopped it 1/2 way up. All the leaves that are on it now have grown since it was cut, so it looks like it'll live for a bit longer.
If you want metal siding and don’t want any sheathing under the metal roof, then order that one. I got this one for the reasons mentioned in the video.
The editing, quality work and calm voiceover. Love it, great job 👍🏼
You should add "Versa finish" to the title of the video.
A lot of people are probably searching youtube for this style. I found this video by accident but was looking for versa finish videos a few weeks ago without much luck on detailed videos. This is definitely the best one
Thanks, and good call on adding Versa Finish. I wasn't sure how popular this style would be compared to your average Versa Tube.
I just finished my versatube 12 by 36 RV shelter last September. It is enclosed on three sides with the front open and a man door in the back. I was able to build it completely by myself, but being 66 years old, it took me longer than I expected.
I’m impressed that you were able to raise the trusses alone. Well done.
I was watching this on my tv on a guest account and I was so impressed that I had to come and comment. I have never seen a creator of your size and the editing skill of a bigger content creator. I don't know how I was recommended your Channel, but I'm glad I was.
Wow, that's cool to hear. Thanks!
@@tfrasca but its a fact. true content right here
Agreed! You have so much potential man, please keep posting 🙏🏻
Did you put a barrier between truss and concrete
@@philipherring6981 Yes, I used a foam sill gasket.
Have seen ads for these buildings for years. Neat to see one go up. Well done video. Thanks
Same here. I was slowly worn down by the ads and eventually just had to try it.
@@tfrasca You certainly made it look easier than I am sure it actually was. Looks like it will work out well for you.
@@lancecluster Yeah, it's been a ton of work to get it to this point. And now it's time for all the fussy little details that are going to drag the process out. But I'm excited for the finished product.
Wow! Well done, both the construction and the video. That lift is absolutely the way to go. My knees were crying thinking about the up and down ladder trips required. Looking forward to the completion. Thanks.
Thanks! I’m already looking forward to the next time I have an excuse to rent a lift. Maybe when it’s time to install the roll up door…
Great DIY video, clear, concise and without a lot of unnecessary jibberjabber...
I have this exact kit coming. I also plan on wood sheathing. Thanks on posting so I know what to expect.
@@sambrown8224 nice. The Versa Finish thing is relatively new from VersaTube, so you don’t see many of them yet. Glad this was helpful.
What kind of siding will you use?
@@tfrasca I'm planning on using the ZIP system to seal it all up and then cover it with siding to match my house.
@@sambrown8224 That ZIP stuff looks pretty cool. I was planning on doing that until I found out that I could just use T1-11 without sheathing underneath, and save a couple thousand bucks.
@@tfrasca That sounds like a great idea
I have no intentions of building a similar structure, but I loved the video. Clean, easy and chill. Without ever seing your channel before this video had already won me over, and then you mention the Volvo stuff. It's like I want to subscribe, then unsubscribe just to be able to subscribe again.
Great work!
Thanks! Glad to see there’s some overlap between metal accessory buildings and turbo bricks.
Awesome. I am doing the same thing, 27x39x10. I have all the OSB on the walls and roof, sides wrap, will be wrapping the roof tomorrow.
Metal framing is nice. Insulation and venting is Paramount. Please elaborate on your wrapping.
Great video! You answered my question on how to do one with proper siding rather than roofing on the walls like they are always shown
Thanks! Yeah, I was on the fence about these until they came out with the Versa Finish option. After having built it, though, I bet it would be cheaper to just get the standard one and add extra 2x4 wall girts.
@tfrasca142 i bet but it will look much better though! Not a fan of roofing sheet metal everywhere, want to use something like hardy board so it can match house that i dont have yet😄 but hoping it all matches and i like how hardy board looks too
Came here for ifted 944, stayed for Volvo engine rebuild...and now here for this too! Great channel
Thanks!
Had no idea that versatube existed. Seems like a good system
Excellent! Thanks for introducing me to a non-attached garage option I never new existed.
@@shortattentionspangarage1312 I’m here to serve.
Bank accounts will not thank him 😂
Now that you've watched this video, I bet you'll start getting VersaTube ads thrown at you from every direction. That's how they got me.
Nice job . Wow, by yourself, mostly. Big project.
absolutely my type of content - dream garage :) greetings from Poland !
Oh great another dyi idea! I can see the look on my wife's face! Very nice !
@@rcdogmanduh4440 Sorry about that!
About time… so much room for activities
Love your choice of music 🎶 brother. I do enjoy jazz, but don't get to hear it much on RUclips. 😮x
Glad to hear it, thanks!
Yo my dude! Really happy to have your channel recommended today, great video and incredible editing. I'm currently in the process of constructing a small 14x16 workshop and the marathon finish before winter sets in is a challenge. Couldn't do it without the help of my father and some friends. Cheers mate!
Thanks! Glad to commiserate with others who put off shop builds until fall…
Great overview of the initial process. Seems very doable, if a bit time consuming for a single individual with only occasional second/third hands. Planning on something similar in a year or two but likely will only do a 12x21 or so. Maybe that size will be easier to manage. Looking forward to how it progresses.
Glad it was helpful. A 12x21 should almost be doable solo. Definitely if you get a scissor lift. Have fun with your project.
I’m looking at doing a 24x36x12 versatube shop as well! Great video, can’t wait for the rest of the build!
There are dozens of us!
Very cool video. I am looking forward to the rest of the build videos! Good job man!
Very nice build
Been considering one of these for some time now. Very well done video buddy. I just subbed. Based on the numbers and the size of your channel, a lot of folks agree with me!
I made several call to Versa Tube and I have to report the experience was less than positive. Calls had to be redirected to other departments, engineering had to be involved. I had planned on building a very similar building to yours 7:19 . But they just couldnt get the job done. After about three weeks I eventually gave up and contracted a local company that built the steel frame to order, poured the concrete, and assembled everything for about the same price as I was quoted for a tube frame that did not reflect what I asked for.
I am happy that your project went well.
That’s a bummer, but it sounds like it worked out pretty well for you in the end. My experience with VT customer service has been ok, I guess. I had some questions they couldn’t answer about the VersaFinish kit, since it was “a new thing” for them. I really wanted overhangs and the ability to use wood sheathing on the roof and sides, and none of the local garage/carport type contractors could do that for me.
Great video and should make for a fine shop, -subbed to see it through!
@@GrandTouringConcepts thanks!
Great video, I am in the process of buying a place, but it has an HOA, so the details on a versafinish install are really helpful. Would be great if you can share your all in cost when it is all said and done.
Yeah, I'll try to tally it all up when I'm "finished". Goal is 30k.
Why would anyone buy into a HOA 😵💫😵💫😵💫
@johndeninger8905 it is very common where I live, even in rural areas. I got a really good deal on a new build with some acreage, more space for less money than a used home. The good news is that the rules are fairly relaxed.
Fun stumbling on your channel! Enjoying the cars and this build!
Thanks!
Smashing it with the videos mate! 👍
Great video - well done!
Great video. Im on my second versa tube building and will definitely use the marking tip while the frame is on the ground. Was a pain doing it after. Now you got me thinking on full osb i stead of just strapping.
Yeah, marking the trusses was a good call. I assume you like your first VT building if you’re building a second one, so that’s good to hear.
@tfrasca142 The guy I dealt with was great. Everything was clearly marked. Nothing came close in price either for me. Had my drawings so passed inspection easily. I'm on forming inspection today.
Always good to sheath your walls first for strength and then the roof sheathing, definitely good to go 5/8 sheathing on your roof if the span is 2’ on center. But I’m jealous, I want to to build one
I would have done walls first if I was doing this is the summer and it was guaranteed to be dry during the entire construction process. But having a roof first has been really nice. I asked the VersaTube people if it would be structurally sound this way and they confirmed.
Thanks for sharing this man. Appreciate you showing the details.
Really enjoyed the vid. Can’t wait to see it finished up
Thanks, more to come soon!
NIce. I like to do a metal shop as well, but I have a wooden framed shop now, so I might just add on to it LOL
Amazingly well made video! Stoked to see the continuation! :)
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!
Came for the shop, stayed for the other content. Win/win.
Really cool. Thanks for sharing this.
Scissor lift, plywood leap frog got my like.
Bro, thanks so much for making this video. It's incredibly helpful!
I'm so pumped for you!
Thanks for a amazing video!!!
Great video! Love all your stuff
Thanks so much!
Sir, you just earned a new sub. Nice video and awesome job.
Thanks!
Nice work
So badass, Tyler.
Great Video. Love the edit
Appreciate it!
great video very descriptive
Great build, when will the continuation be posted?
I’m pretty much working on this thing in real time, so I hope to have the second video out in a couple weeks. Frame inspection is scheduled for Monday, then I can start sheathing the sides and progress should happen quickly from there.
This is the best way to build a garage. I have basically the same setup but with metal exterior. My family builds houses for a living and still we couldn’t come close to the cost savings of a metal building. I actually almost went even cheaper and got a hanger style building, those are super cheap as far as building a garage goes.
I looked at those hangar/quonset hut style buildings too. They're cool but I didn't want to lose that much space on the side walls. I also have a max height restriction with the city, so to make it tall enough for a lift off to the side, the middle was going to be like 20 feet tall.
I’m still waiting for part 2!!
Me too! I have what I would call most of a video edited. Just need to wrap up a few things.
My complements on your installation and videography. Are you doing a follow up on the final phases of the build? Thanks!
Thank you. I’m working on the next video now, but I’m in the fiddle little details phase, so progress is slowing down. I want to get the video out this month, though.
I was debating going with a Versatube building (25x36x10, hoa limits me to 900sqft😢) Ill have to get a hold of them to see if a 10' lean-to is possibe with one of these. Great video and I look forward to the next one!
I’m pretty sure there’s a lean-to option in the configuration thing on the VersaTube website.
Oh, a guy rocking a SAAB? Subbed.
hahahaha , this made me stop to comment .. hahaha " But the phillips head screw WILL strip out if you look at it wrong " hahahaha epic ..
12:35 You mention an expanding collet but even when you hand tighten it seems so loose it looks like a placebo bolt. Maybe the hole was a little too wide?
The collet expands when the but is torqued, which I guess I didn’t show in the video.
@@tfrasca forgot to update this, I saw that happen a while later in the video, but thank you for the response anyway!
When do you think your next video will be posted? I'm considering building one of these so this is great!
Thanksgiving and weather are going to slow things down, but hopefully I can have a meaningful update in 2-3 weeks.
Great video with just enough detail. I guess my question is would you build it again??
I think if I was starting today, I’d build something out of wood. I’m doing the siding and finishing out the interior now, and the metal frame does make it more complicated.
Curious how thick is your cement slab?
Great video, thanks for sharing as I’m looking to build my own shop like this. Please do a second video, would love to see how it turns out.
Thanks, glad it’s relevant to your interests. I have a second video in the works.
Slab is 4” with a 12x16” footer. Also one section that’s 6” thick where the lift will go.
He’ll yeah, you’re my hero 😂
Great video! I’m looking forward to your future videos showing electrical and any plumbing you may add.
Did you get a permit for the build? I’m wondering how difficult it would be.
Thanks for the great content!
Thanks! I’ll be starting the electrical in the next week or so. No real plans for plumbing, at least not yet. In the second video I briefly talked about the permitting part of this. It’s basically the reason I went with a metal frame. Versatube has an option to buy stamped engineering drawings, and that made getting the structural permit super easy.
Excellent video/demonstration. Pro tip: A pair of strap-on knee pads is a great investment. I use mine all the time.
Thanks. I actually have a set and can't stand them. I do sometimes use a foam pad that makes kneeling on concrete much more enjoyable.
@@tfrasca Try "No Cry" gardening knee pads. They're red and black in color. I'm on about my fourth set.
Nice building. Whats the difference between diy and having it built? What was the total cost with sheathing?
Don't know total cost yet, but it's likely close to 30k before electrical and a bunch of little things. I had quotes for 12k (not including the 11k slab) to assemble an all steel building, but the quality wasn't great, and I don't want steel siding anyway.
Always wondered about these kits. Thanks for the info. I still think "Dream Shop" is over used on youtube. If it was a dream shop you would not be building it. I like to call it a realistic shop build. I am in the middle of my 60'x60'x20' realistic shop build. The car lift went in yesterday. Great video.
Different people have different dreams, and I enjoy building things myself.
Hi, Great video! Could you break down the price of concrete slabs, garage frame and extra stuff if possible.
Highly appreciated it!
Thank you and keep up the good work! 👍👍
I'll try to tally up the cost so far in the next video.
@tfrasca Great! Thank you 👍
if stripping is an issue perhaps rivets or rivNUTs
Hello fellow Oregonian! Just stumbled over this vid. Reminds me of the cold-formed/extruded building I put up a couple years ago; similar size as well. The CF construction process is slightly different in some ways, but the overall process looks to be pretty similar. Gives me a bit of PTSD watching you put in the self tappers! ha Was surprised to see you are going with OSB/T1. I went with metal sheathing, both roof & walls. My building is fully batt insulated so it took some head scratching to determine how to do it, but mine turned out pretty good and no condensation so far. I'm in Central OR tho and in a drier climate (your trees suggest you're in the valley) but even heating/cooling inside doesn't cause issues.
Looks good; subscribed and looking forward to your progress.
Yup, I'm right on the Willamette. We have a small garden shed with all metal siding and roof and the condensation is insane in there in the winter. I'm sure I could have used metal siding panels and insulated enough to prevent condensation there, but for the roof I really like the more solid decking that the OSB under the metal provides. I wasn't crazy about walking around up there with just the metal panels.
@@tfrasca I honestly was sketched out by the idea of walking around on that thin metal roofing, but honestly once you put a couple of starter screws in, to hold it to the purlins, it's shockingly stout. I had to do a lot of walking around up there and it doesn't even deform as best I can tell... and I'm a fairly large dude, too! It's been engineered to take snow loads so it's going to be a lot stronger than we'd ever imagine using such thin material.
@@zippyslug31 That's cool to hear. Are your roof panels 29 or 26 gauge.?
@@tfrasca Good question; I had to look this up on my quote. 26G. A few other 'specs' from my supplier's quote in case it's useful to you (I'm not sure what some of it means tho): "20 psf ground snow load, 20 psf min. roof snow load. 120 mph wind speed, exposure ‘C’. 2018 IBC"
@@zippyslug31 Nice. Before I decided to use OSB roof decking, I was going to get 26g, but with the OSB, I was able to order 29g and save a bit on the steel. Are those specs for the roofing material or the frame of the building? Versatube built the frame of mine to the appropriate wind and snow loads, but I didn't think roof material used specs like that. I think my building is 41.4 psf ground snow, 25 psf roof snow, and 124 mph winds. Well over what my area requires.
3:18 - this is was I thought before you said it - and my second idea was industrial WAX something from WURTH company.
@@DonDomel that’s a good idea. So far I’ve been wiping down any small rust spots and spraying WD40 on them for temporary prevention.
@@tfrasca try to find in your country/city kind a anti-corrosion industrial wax. Few weeks ago I was waxing aluminium football gate for my son. Looks exactly as your garage - join by join block. But I wax all screws and holes.
This is my kind of content.
So when you get done and you start fitting out the shop, can you hang shelves on the wall or will it have to be free-standing shelving units? I would worry about th weight of the stuff bending the metal that is already supporting wall & ceiling.
I think some shelving attached to the walls is ok. I'll ask Versatube directly though before I decide on that or shelving units.
Out of curiosity, do you know if these sections can be welded also? Just thinking about ways to add more strength to the structure.
I don't know for sure, but I would assume VersaTube would tell you "no". Maybe that would just be to cover themselves in the event of a failure, but I do know that all buildings flex a bit to meet wind requirements, etc. If it was welded, those natural flex joints wouldn't move, and may crack? But really, the bummer about welding the joints would be grinding off all the galvanization before you weld so you don't die from the fumes.
@@tfrasca Yeah, that makes sense. Thank you for the video. I always keep my eyes peeled for different ways to get a workshop. This could be a candidate.
Good video, is the frame (legs) on 5 foot centers.
Yes, 5’ centers.
Extend the deck on the sissor, and load 3-4 sheets on the extended deck. Than unload them where needed. Less time going up and down with a single sheet of wood. But nice job.
Ha, I realized the deck extends right as I was ready to return it to the rental place. Classic.
It's funny that this is considered strange in the states. Kit sheds are the normal thing in Australia from stratco etc. They use c channel extrude and i have a single truss every 2.5m. most builds over there are timber for some reason? Also we love corrugated galvanized sheets in the suburbs. And we use tin roofs with reflective insulation rolls. I don't get why you use wood.
I wouldn’t say it’s strange, but it’s definitely nothing I’ve ever done before. I don’t know why we use so much wood for framing over here. Maybe something to do with the availability of timber? The main reason I’m using wood siding and OSB under the roof is to cut down on condensation, which is a huge issue with metal siding.
Who made up that these are strange in the US? Metal frame out buildings are everywhere near me. The US isn’t a small European monolithic fiefdom as much as people in other countries try to imagine it is. Different areas will have different building methods used. US and Canada have massive timber resources and industries making building with lumber common. The cost of material, speed to build, resistance to condensation, and how easy it is to make alterations vs other construction methods can contribute to its use.
This is pretty normal in a lot of the U.S..
Other places will opt for timber framing due to local costs.
Australia and the U.S. are basically the same, but we made good vehicles illegal.
Well for starters you could frame this building out with dimensional lumber for 1/3 the cost of this galvanized metal.
@@anthonyhowery6573yeah, in the second video I kind of end up regretting not doing it all in wood.
What's the wind load rating on that building? Hope you will do a cost breakdown when you're done.
124 mph. I plan on doing a total cost breakdown, as depressing as that will be.
Impressive Giant Erector set! why not putting in reliefdoors in the roof and anchored X braces along the walls like in norwegian barns to be hurrica proof? you have sales in Europe ?
I’m in the Western US, so no hurricanes. But it is rated for 124 mph wind (though I have a hard time believing that). Anchored x braces are self-explanatory, but what are these relief doors in the roof?
@ Hi the reliefdoors can relief over or underpressure so the roof can't lift off in extreme winds, normally hinged on the top and swinginging both ways and sized relative to interior volume
@@samuelarduino nice. That’s kind of what I figured, but have never seen them here in the US.
Why didn't you extend the work platform on the scissor lift to give you more of a work area?
I didn’t even know that was a possibility until I was almost done.
@tfrasca142 😆 Next time then
Just curious, no sill seal on the long wall plates?
Yeah, all the sill plates got the foam sill gasket.
Really curious how the permitting process went for this
I contacted my city with the basic dimensions of the building, and they said it’s permittable, but that I’d need to provide stamped engineering drawings. So with that info, I got the slab poured and ordered the frame kit. Versatube charged me about $700 for the drawings, which took about a month. As soon as I forwarded those to the city planning department, the permit was issued. Framing inspection is on Monday, and I don’t expect any problems.
Great video Tyler…
What is the snow load rating for this??? I’m in Ontario, Canada.
25 psf roof snow, and I think 40 something ground snow. I told them where it was being built and permitted, and they make sure it meets the specs. Sometimes they have to put the verticals 4’ OC instead of 5’, or they make the knee braces really long.
Nice!
Do you feel like this was more affordable or easier than doing this with the traditional stick framing?
I think stick built framing could have been a couple thousand dollars cheaper than the VersaFinish frame. But I would have had to find a local engineer to draw and stamp all the plans, whereas the VersaTube process has that step included for a better price than sourcing it myself. Now that I’m doing the siding, I do wish the framing was wood. So many self-tapping screws…
Great video, production quality is top notch! Just curious though on estimated cost of the project so far
Thanks. So far we’re around 20k, with most of that being the foundation. Trying to budget 30k, but it’s looking like we may go over a bit.
This is awesome! Estimated total cost with concrste and all materials?
I’m hoping it’ll come in just under 30k. But that may be optimistic. Definitely considerably more expensive than just getting a standard VersaTube with all metal siding.
@tfrasca142 I can appreciate that. I live in a neighborhood that would be very upset by just a metal building in my yard. I would unfortunately have to go your route as well.
I get it. I don’t live in an HOA or anything, but I still thought an all metal building with no overhangs would look out of place.
Speaking of winter-what's the snow load rating?
To meet my local code, this building is rated to 25 psf roof snow load. 41 psf ground snow load.
@@tfrasca Many thanks-Jim
What did this cost? Doing it in wood seems like it would cost a lot more and probably last just as long
Wood is definitely more expensive, even though I’m using relatively cheap t1-11. Not sure on total cost yet, but it’ll probably top 30k.
Why did you choose to use metal instead of stick built?
I go over that a bit in the 2nd shop build video. Basically I have no contractor experience and dealing with all the engineering/permitting stuff seemed like a big hassle for a stick build. With this metal kit, I just paid a bit extra for the stamped drawings, and got my permit issued with no questions asked.
12:45 concrete gets fractionally stronger after 28 days.
can you post the video when you are trying the put insurance on the building?
You know, that part hasn’t even crossed my mind. Thanks for the reminder.
Can you tell me how you did the concrete pad? Cost?
I paid a contractor 11k to do that. It’s 4” thick (6” where the lift will go) with 12x16” footers. Rebar grid 18” OC.
10 grand just for the frame? So plus another 10 for the slab, 5 for the outer shell, 5 for all the ancillary stuff like windows, gutters, shingles, insulation, doors then another 5 for electric service and cabling..5 for the interior and odds n ends. and those numbers are on the cheap side of things.. sound about right though? 40-45k$ all said and done?
Frame was closer to 8, but most of your other estimates are pretty accurate. Except I don’t think I’ll be in it 5k for electrical.
Charlie Brown called... he wants his music back!!!!
That’s the first “I don’t like your music” comment that’s actually been funny. But luckily for you, there’s a lot of other music that you can use for your own videos. Hope this helped.
Wouldn't it be Linus that called?
@@operator8014 Honestly, if I could afford some real Vince Guaraldi tracks instead of this royalty-free stuff, I'd be pretty psyched.
How much did the slab cost, and specs?
I want to say it was 11k. 23x36 with a 12x16” footer. 4” thick except for 24 sq ft of 6” where the lift will go.
Why did you cut the top of the tree off?
It dropped a couple really big limbs and was getting dangerous. Not to mention, we were spending 4 months of the year picking up hundreds of apples a week of the ground. We were going to take it down to the stump, but the arborist thought it might live if we just chopped it 1/2 way up. All the leaves that are on it now have grown since it was cut, so it looks like it'll live for a bit longer.
9k kit?
After shipping and the stamped drawings, yeah.
How thick is the slab?
4” with 12x16” footers, rebar grid at 18” OC. And there’s a 6” section where the lift will go.
Why buy this when I can order one with all the precut metal siding and roof with all trim nneded?
If you want metal siding and don’t want any sheathing under the metal roof, then order that one. I got this one for the reasons mentioned in the video.
Sorry, I could only watch half of this. I'm going to start over and watch this with my wife. Thanks jerk. lol
#705 You would think they designed that a little better?
I agree.