Explained: NATO SAM & AAA Systems 1934-1998 | DCS WORLD

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  • Опубликовано: 22 дек 2024

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  • @qfinck
    @qfinck 2 года назад +48

    If you watch the Linebacker again, you'll notice that it spun its turret and elevated the gun and launcher. At that position and elevation is the launcher pod reload position. IIRC, there are two guys in the back whose job is to pull the empties out of the launcher and put in new rounds. That's why the Linebacker didn't use its guns. It was reloading missles.
    Also, the Gepard is built on a Leopard I hull chassis so it's a beefy boy.

    • @vukpsodorov5446
      @vukpsodorov5446 2 года назад +2

      wasn't the leopard 1 chassis an early cold war MBT built for speed & maneuverability with relatively thin armor?
      i mean, i don't know what kind of ammo they've got in the flankers, but i'd imagine that there are ammo types with enough penetration to go through.

    • @92HazelMocha
      @92HazelMocha 2 года назад +4

      @@vukpsodorov5446 Thats a strong maybe; the leopard 1's armor was primarily to defeat autocannon rounds, and whether or not the flanker's gun would go through depends pretty heavily on exactly which ammo is loaded.

    • @qfinck
      @qfinck 2 года назад +1

      From what I can find the Leopard 1's armor was 70mm thick depending on location. To put that in perspective the M2A2 Bradley has about 14.5 mm of space laminate armor and that is supposed to be able to defend against 30mm autocannon fire.

    • @92HazelMocha
      @92HazelMocha 2 года назад +1

      @@qfinck It should be noted that all autocannon ammunition isn't the same, even for the same gun. For instance some soviet 30mm can easily peirce the front of an M2 Bradley but not the turret of the leopard.
      Also angle of impact and piece or armor hit play a large role in penetration, however this does not appear to be modeled within DCS.

    • @vukpsodorov5446
      @vukpsodorov5446 2 года назад +1

      @@qfinck well yes, 70mm in certain places. mostly the front. the sides, real, and especially the top is a lot thinner.
      that being said, while the bradley has thinner plates, it does use spaced & composite armor, whereas the leopard is made entirely of RHA.
      still, after digging around i wasn't able to find all that much info regarding the penetration of the Gsh-30-1's AP rounds, and the info i did find was against heavily angled (around 60 degrees ) plates at 1000+ meters, with about 15-20mm of penetration.

  • @wallyhiggens5369
    @wallyhiggens5369 2 года назад +20

    I just realized how hard it is to fight real SAM sites that have human operators making real decisions like holding fire until a jet is in a bad spot

    • @svetpolitikeratovaioruzja4695
      @svetpolitikeratovaioruzja4695 Год назад +3

      in reality you will have bombers going in while being covered by F16 with anti radiation missiles, and probably around +20-30 planes in the air, so turning radar on makes you a siting duck, just look at the bombing of Yugoslavia 99
      Over 800 SAMs were fired by Yugoslav forces at NATO aircraft, including 477 SA-6s and 124 confirmed MANPADS, for the downing of only two aircraft and several more damaged.
      now for this we could blame the crew of SAMs or NATO for not playing fair and using older planes in smaller numbers but reality is this
      In Ukraine we can see that if you have a lot of SAMs it works, but even then SAMs can't shot down everything

    • @germangamingvideos6069
      @germangamingvideos6069 5 месяцев назад

      @@svetpolitikeratovaioruzja4695 The problem in yugoslavia was the difference between quite modern stealth technology and extremly old (The Sa-6 was put into service in 1967) anti air technology

  • @LaCorvette
    @LaCorvette 2 года назад +18

    I approve of the Roland launcher at 12:48 exploding so hard, it briefly activated the switch window dialog and turned itself into the auto-cannon configuration.

  • @FATMAN_tactical
    @FATMAN_tactical 2 года назад +14

    12:00 the infantry guy with a Garand shooting too
    bless his cotton socks

  • @razvanmazilu6284
    @razvanmazilu6284 2 года назад +39

    I think the problem with the Patriot is less its capability and more its AI which blows its load at long range where the kill probability is low.

    • @Minutemman
      @Minutemman 2 года назад +2

      thats what I was thinking, because it is known to be a great site.

    • @tetraxis3011
      @tetraxis3011 Год назад +2

      @@Minutemman No it isn’t. It’s notorious for underperforming. Only the most recent variants can be called decent.

    • @mauer594
      @mauer594 Год назад

      lol. Lmao.

    • @ZeroOne-mp1qe
      @ZeroOne-mp1qe 2 месяца назад

      @@tetraxis3011 you jesting?

    • @tetraxis3011
      @tetraxis3011 2 месяца назад

      @@ZeroOne-mp1qe Nope. Patriot Blk1 sucked ass and Blk2 wasn’t much better at all. Blk3 is decent.

  • @firestarteronyoutube5542
    @firestarteronyoutube5542 2 года назад +20

    26:39 dad was part of the RAF Squadron who operated these out in the Desert in Gulf 1 and 2. The killer thing with Rapier is that it is just so insanely manouevrable. The gunners on Rapier were also drilled in firing them extremely well, so hit and kill was highly probable if a target came in kill zone. Fortunately in the Gulf Wars Iraq never managed to sortie over British Bases and so Rapier was never needed.
    It was used in the Falklands, but was hampered by poor crew skill (they hadn't done training on Rapier for a couple of months) and lack of spare parts, as well as difficulty tracking targets thanks to ground clutter around Falkland Sound.

  • @charlietheunicorn5383
    @charlietheunicorn5383 2 года назад +3

    The Jeep really makes these videos pop when watching, due to size comparison showing how big or small these systems are IRL.
    Kortana Scott and Simba GG.

  • @rubiconnn
    @rubiconnn 2 года назад +6

    Every time I see the Avenger I always think about how incredibly hot it must get inside of the gunner's cabin with that giant window while sitting out in the baking desert sun.

    • @davidcope3304
      @davidcope3304 2 года назад +3

      Got to sit in one. Ya it was lol. There is an ac unit in it but it's only for the equipment.

  • @vulgar_potato4992
    @vulgar_potato4992 2 года назад +5

    Last rant lol, the AI grinds my gears for patriot being a 14 series because we’d never fire at a target we know we wouldn’t hit, that being said though Patriot has been tailored more towards TBM’s.

    • @gotanon8958
      @gotanon8958 2 года назад

      The patriot AI is retarded its the first thing they need to fix...

  • @gmanadventurer8892
    @gmanadventurer8892 2 года назад +20

    This game seems to discount all US weapons. But the Gepard looked like something out of the Terminator movies, can't wait to see it in some of the missions you do.

    • @johncarl5505
      @johncarl5505 2 года назад +2

      @@TeenTeenFpv Why?

    • @fqeagles21
      @fqeagles21 2 года назад

      @@TeenTeenFpv even Europe,the best System there is Aster

    • @fqeagles21
      @fqeagles21 2 года назад +4

      @@TeenTeenFpv Yeah Aegis with Spy-6 Is the best

    • @genierico
      @genierico 2 года назад +1

      @@TeenTeenFpv We do use NASAMs but only in certain places like Washington DC

    • @johndave117
      @johndave117 Год назад

      NATO bot mad that the game accurately shows USA air defense is lacking 🤣

  • @herethen
    @herethen 2 года назад +17

    DCS really must focus on the AI part of the “sim”. Sure the modules are great but without a proper AI it becomes so stale.
    Great video though 😁

  • @SolNacht
    @SolNacht 2 года назад +4

    I can see Cap hiding random Gepards in future matches, for that "Surprise" factor

  • @millermonsterair
    @millermonsterair 2 года назад +3

    anyone else remember an older flying "sim" called SU-27 Flanker that was on DOS, and what feels like forever ago? i noticed a few of these looked familiar and even though it took me a min, it hit me that i remember them from SU-27 Flanker. i used to love playing that "sim" and honestly, id love to get ahold of a copy of it and spend hours on it again.

  • @tomsoki5738
    @tomsoki5738 2 года назад +31

    Stop telling them when it fires, especially with the IR ones. It’s supposed to be somewhat real and doing that makes it WAY easier to avoid

    • @MGZetta
      @MGZetta 2 года назад +1

      They just did what they did with Russian SAMs. Whether you like it or not the rule is to start dodging when the first bullet or missile is fired. If it was realistic, they would've used more Russian launchers instead of just one. Lol.

  • @formallyknownasj.a.2074
    @formallyknownasj.a.2074 2 года назад +2

    I love how there’s cows out in the fields with the SAMs. That way, once the SAMs are destroyed you can have a bbq.

  • @hartzaden
    @hartzaden 2 года назад +5

    with the a hawk battery, it can guide any number of missiles to a single target per fire control radar, a normal site is 2 FCRs for six launchers.

  • @philiphall2675
    @philiphall2675 2 года назад +4

    You really need to divide these into two types. Short range anti-helicopter "chopper poppers" and the strategic Sams.

  • @tionstav5799
    @tionstav5799 2 года назад +4

    Surprised they don't have the Nike sites.
    MIM-3 Ajax was the worlds first operational and deployed sam, It's a wacky 2 stage much like the soviet S-75.

  • @erikerice9068
    @erikerice9068 2 года назад +7

    Outside of Shilka, the Gepard is probably the coolest AAA unit.

    • @johngezon1220
      @johngezon1220 2 года назад +1

      ***Cries in Sgt York***

    • @erikerice9068
      @erikerice9068 2 года назад

      @@johngezon1220 Woooow!!!! What a disaster that project was.🙄

  • @henrymann8122
    @henrymann8122 2 года назад +1

    Thanks

  • @kanagawakenji7
    @kanagawakenji7 2 года назад +8

    Question, why do you give verbal warning of a missile being fired each time? Shouldn't they be relying on visual cues and their plane's systems?

  • @calmterror
    @calmterror 2 года назад +16

    This shows there is something weird with the patriot AI it is completely useless in DCS . I think it needs fixing

    • @Rover200Power
      @Rover200Power 2 года назад +8

      To be more accurate it should only target friendly aircraft.

    • @schweizerluchs7146
      @schweizerluchs7146 2 года назад +1

      The engagement range is just too far out. So it won't wait to get higher Pk shots.

    • @vasiliymedvedev1532
      @vasiliymedvedev1532 2 года назад

      This is reality, Sam systems very expensive with questionable effectiveness

    • @agsystems8220
      @agsystems8220 2 года назад +1

      It's an area control system, and was reacted to every time. A good chunk of it's mission is anti ballistic missile, and those didn't to react till very recently. If the system gets a firing solution on a target that doesn't react*, it will usually work (at least in theory).
      Nato has always been more reliant on it's interceptors, so if the system delays an adversary it can be regarded as a success. Granted, it probably would still have been better to have fewer missiles in the air at a time for that role, but the low pk isn't necessarily ineffective.
      *Down side to this is that non military aircraft are the ones unlikely to react.

    • @TrojanHell
      @TrojanHell 2 года назад +2

      @@vasiliymedvedev1532 Like all systems, it depends on operator proficiency. To name a cheesy example, there is this movie about the incident with US plane over Yugoslavia where the radar operator turns off the radar to give the intruding American plane a false sense of security. If the operator is a noob, they might fire everything they've got the moment they see a threat without knowing if they have a realistic hit probability.

  • @Duvstep910
    @Duvstep910 2 года назад +2

    +Grim Reapers I think the reason the Vulcan fired once and stopped at first was because it couldnt calculate the lead needed while kortana was flying directly overhead; would be a waste of ammo

  • @rmp5s
    @rmp5s 2 года назад +2

    Probably your best video series, man!
    19:13 - Hahaha...I love how dude's like, "NOPE!! I'M OUT!!" 😆

  • @jamesp8164
    @jamesp8164 2 года назад +5

    I am actually impressed that 50 cal MGs can reach 15k feet.

  • @montys420-
    @montys420- 2 года назад +21

    Stinger missile seeker has an IR and UV tracking abilities so it ignores counter measures and hits what's not admitting UV I.e a jet in the sky, however not sure when this seeker was put into service it could've been later then 89

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  2 года назад +4

      thxx

    • @akshaykkulkarni6100
      @akshaykkulkarni6100 2 года назад

      Russians have caught up , DIRCM is implemented on the Su-57 ,not sure on other planes though.

    • @MandolinMagi
      @MandolinMagi 2 года назад +3

      IR/UV was the 1983 -92B model, Stinger POST. Followed by the 1989 -92C/RMP and the D and E.

  • @smithclk
    @smithclk 2 года назад

    Thanks!

  • @killer115ish
    @killer115ish 2 года назад +14

    The difference between this and the Russian sam's is astounding, the strongest sam battery is the patriot, which in DCS (and maybe in real life) is hardly a threat. Which is usually compared to an SA-10, just worse in every category. Makes the PVP servers super weird with SAM balance.
    Just to quote my favorite line from the vid: "Warn me when there's an actual sam coming and not a Patriot."

    • @alf3071
      @alf3071 2 года назад

      why does patriot suck so much? I hope it doesn't suck irl lol

    • @rotary7372
      @rotary7372 2 года назад +6

      @@TeenTeenFpv When you own the air there isn't a big need for these systems. As Russia is showing currently the US really has no air threat.

    • @MarkoDash
      @MarkoDash 2 года назад

      @@alf3071 incoming missiles dont dodge

    • @rotary7372
      @rotary7372 2 года назад +5

      @@TeenTeenFpv Welp. Vietnam was almost 60 years ago where pilot training and missile maintenance changed the scene. Guns changed nothing. Since that time aircraft and weapons have vastly improved and US pilots get all the flight time they can stomach. We are seeing in Ukraine right now that the Russian air force is dog shit and the planes aren't living up to the sales pitches and DCS reality.
      For all the shit people give the US military, rightly so sometimes, it has shown that as far as air combat goes the US dominates and no air force can stand up to it.
      If the US needed better ground based air defense they would have it.

    • @thedausthed
      @thedausthed 2 года назад +2

      @@TeenTeenFpv You have no idea what you are talking about! There was barely any US gun kills in Vietnam even after they added it back!

  • @bastifantasti82
    @bastifantasti82 2 года назад +3

    As someone who served in a Gepard Battalion, I am very sad that they are no longer in service in the German Bundeswehr.

  • @TheKythia
    @TheKythia 2 года назад +5

    Hot damn that Gepard!

  • @Hewitt_himself
    @Hewitt_himself 2 года назад +2

    Its more that the soviets decided to make a lot of their SAM and RADAR posts mobile to adjust for the seasons, building a chain of fixed sites through Siberia (or the Ural mountains) would be a monumental task compared to driving crews out from artic bases to SAM posts

  • @samr7609
    @samr7609 2 года назад +7

    I would be interested in seeing one about Chinese SAMs. Great Vid Cap.

    • @cassius_eu5970
      @cassius_eu5970 2 года назад +2

      Hell yeah that would be awesome!

    • @samr7609
      @samr7609 2 года назад +1

      @@cassius_eu5970 agreed!

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  2 года назад +4

      They are just Russian SAMs re-named to "HQ" series numbers.

    • @samr7609
      @samr7609 2 года назад

      @@grimreapers go figure, I would have thought they would have been using indigenous SAMs

  • @jasonbewley4776
    @jasonbewley4776 2 года назад +2

    Funny lol I was the radar guy for the avengers and the m6 linebacker

  • @dirkaminimo4836
    @dirkaminimo4836 2 года назад +6

    Cortana has some serious skills!! I like watching her in all the other videos. More display of her skills please

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  2 года назад

      Yeh she did good.

    • @krismurphy7711
      @krismurphy7711 2 года назад

      Skip that, what's her phone number or email address???!!!

  • @davidcope3304
    @davidcope3304 2 года назад +1

    I haven't played around with the campaign stuff yet but is the newer stuff like the C-Ram or the THAAD in game?

  • @kenhelmers2603
    @kenhelmers2603 2 года назад +1

    Interesting and fun to watch! Thanks GR

  • @rnash999
    @rnash999 2 года назад +2

    Clam Shell, Low Blow and Square Pair all have CW antennas as a part of the system. Probably more do but I only looked up those three from the previous SAM overview video.

  • @markstott6689
    @markstott6689 2 года назад +19

    That was fun. There were a few surprises, in particular the Rapier. It did well against A4's 40 years ago but I'd assumed it was well past its sell by date. Even so it's going out of service this year.
    I still think the Russian SAM's are scarier.

    • @firestarteronyoutube5542
      @firestarteronyoutube5542 2 года назад +2

      You'd be surprised what crew skill does. The emphasis with Rapier was on crew skill, much like Starstreak on the Stormer HVM (Army)
      The operators are exceptionally skilled, as they have no proxy fuse, but their missiles are exceptionally fast and manouevrable. It's a tradeoff but the crews can afford to do that because they're trained exceptionally well.

    • @6105boe
      @6105boe 2 года назад +2

      @@firestarteronyoutube5542 crew skill is a good point, I hadn't thought of that in the context of SAM sites. Wonder how well trained russia's SAM crews are if their pilots are so inexperienced and how much of a difference that makes currently.

    • @RoamingAdhocrat
      @RoamingAdhocrat 2 года назад +1

      @@6105boe Well, they thought a cruising 777 was an enemy strike aircraft, so…

    • @genierico
      @genierico 2 года назад +1

      Rapier was basically redesigned in the 1990s. This was the Rapier FSC / 2k which is the 1990s model.

    • @elektrotehnik94
      @elektrotehnik94 2 года назад +1

      You guys thinking any country would model their top-notch equipment realistically in-game is toddler-naive.
      It's a game for mass consumption. All you see is 20 years old tech (or more), with likely heavily modified real performance, managed by a VERY dumb AI.

  • @nigeldepledge3790
    @nigeldepledge3790 2 года назад +1

    Good one!
    For added comedy, they should put the Blowpipe MANPAD in the game : IIUC, no-one could ever hit anything with it.

  • @rothgartheviking858
    @rothgartheviking858 2 года назад +1

    Great video. Fun to watch :)

  • @ryanpayne7707
    @ryanpayne7707 2 года назад +1

    25:20: But does the bubble have A/C?

  • @ludwigbeilschmidt3766
    @ludwigbeilschmidt3766 2 года назад +2

    Bless you and thank you very much!

  • @TinfoilHatWearer
    @TinfoilHatWearer 2 года назад +1

    This was great.. Exactly what I asked for.. I'm one of your loyal subscribers that doesn't play the game.. And I'm pretty disappointed that there are so few anti air from NATO and America... I thought it woulda been way more.

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  2 года назад

      NATO is not very reliant on SAMS, hence why we don't really need many in game.

  • @domdecoco5915
    @domdecoco5915 2 года назад +2

    Love the SAM videos!

  • @AndrewMurrell
    @AndrewMurrell 2 года назад +1

    So if you didn't tell them the IR missles are coming, how would they do? Usually I get hit from the side when I can't see it coming.

  • @pootmahgoots8482
    @pootmahgoots8482 2 года назад +1

    Krieger: "And the best part is he's learning." *Pats Gepard*

  • @ShadyHunter187
    @ShadyHunter187 2 года назад +2

    Much respect✊ from US definitely subscribing to our NATO Ally!

  • @jamesorth6460
    @jamesorth6460 2 года назад +2

    How does the cow AA work

  • @iankphone
    @iankphone 2 года назад +1

    Do the WW2 units model radio proximity fuses?

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  2 года назад

      WWII timer fuses only in game.

  • @steves8482
    @steves8482 2 года назад +1

    Gepard rules! Love the scary G. I. / cow hybrid centaur soldier at 15:00...

  • @johnpyatt4579
    @johnpyatt4579 2 года назад +2

    Glad I found this channel, looks like a lot of prep work goes into these videos. Have you ever tried the flight described in the start of 'Where Eagles Dare'? Snow, darkness, over Swiss air space no light, it may be a challenge!

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  2 года назад +1

      Cool idea

    • @jannegrey
      @jannegrey Год назад

      If you are talking about the flight that pilot says: "Some Messerschmidt is giving me a bad name on purpose by flying over the Swiss airspace" - then yeah it is based on real flights. Both sides "skirted" the Swiss Air border. Sometimes quite deeply. Of course they couldn't really protest if such plane was shot down by Swiss AA or CAP. Ans Swiss made so many protests that I thing papers would fill large room to the ceiling.

  • @alansnyder4104
    @alansnyder4104 2 года назад +1

    @Cap. I don't know how to get video requests to you, so do it here.
    Would like to see A-10 flying low past various SAM sites to attack a target a few miles away. Maybe an adjust to your highway of death, but with a local SAM network.

  • @terryboyer1342
    @terryboyer1342 2 года назад +3

    "Of course it was Kortana!"

  • @jocelinopiazza5967
    @jocelinopiazza5967 2 года назад +1

    A video with the Chinese and European sam and aaa would be very welcome.

  • @Wrahns
    @Wrahns 2 года назад +1

    Geez Cortana is a good pilot. Anyone would be lucky to have her on their team.

  • @oysteink-q9c
    @oysteink-q9c Год назад

    The NASAMS is being upgraded with AIM-9X, IRIS-T and AMRAAM-ER missiles (basically Evolved Sea Sparrow with AMRAAM head). The upgrade will give both longer and short range improvements. Also keep in mind that the western systems have a very high degree of networking, which I believe the Russians lack. In other words, the NASAMS and the PATRIOT can network and automatically exchange tracking and firing data, together with data from airborne sensors like the E3 AWACS, E7 Wedgetail F22 and F35 (and basically every other NATO asset). This gives huge advantages.

  • @garymyers6638
    @garymyers6638 2 года назад +1

    The standard man pad technique is to wait for the target to pass and shoot from the side and back

  • @smacman68
    @smacman68 Год назад

    No dodging dodgy person. Your vocabulary is legendary Cap. From yours truly, valued viewington uington (spelling?)

  • @ManuelKahana
    @ManuelKahana 2 года назад +1

    Next time add Spyder, Iron Dome and David's Sling systems :)

  • @aztec0112
    @aztec0112 2 года назад +2

    In my own testing, against large and small aircraft, varying speeds and altitudes, flat terrain (the ocean), the Patriot missile system was essentially useless. SHORADS (Avenger) were more effective. This just confirmed everything I had gamed out. I remember a couple of scenarios GR did against the Roland and just got blotted out of the sky!

    • @vulgar_potato4992
      @vulgar_potato4992 2 года назад +4

      The biggest problem with patriot is that the AI handles the system way differently then how it is IRL. That being said Patriot has a far better track record against ballistic missiles

    • @aztec0112
      @aztec0112 2 года назад

      @@vulgar_potato4992 👍👍

  • @thegungadfly8930
    @thegungadfly8930 2 года назад +2

    Man, guys like Simba really support your channel. I hope he gets some piece of the action.

    • @vipvip-tf9rw
      @vipvip-tf9rw 2 года назад +2

      simba is mvp

    • @simba1113
      @simba1113 2 года назад +1

      we have a mutual agreement. Cap and GR does support me on other projects a little more off line.

    • @simba1113
      @simba1113 2 года назад +1

      @@vipvip-tf9rw Yes i am a mildly valued pilot ;) j/k thanks for the comments

    • @simba1113
      @simba1113 2 года назад +2

      @@TeenTeenFpv One simply dose not just plant his face into an object. he meticulously calculates a 100 variables like windspeed, angle of attack, amount of eye shadow applied, weight of the air craft, current location of constellation centurion 1, flap position, camera angle, latest 4 Instagram/twitter comments, golden globe award nominations, target altitude, rate of decent, canopy coefficient. All of these highly important and precise calculations have to be figured out before you can make an accurate face plant..

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  2 года назад +3

      GR would not function without Simba/Scott/RC/IW/Kelso/bendy... and about 10 others TBH.

  • @bigfootaviation8497
    @bigfootaviation8497 2 года назад +8

    Would be cool to see real tactics and not cheating like telling them where it’s firing or missiles away or kamikaze attacks.

    • @krismurphy7711
      @krismurphy7711 2 года назад +3

      Well in REAL scenario, they would jam on approach and launch HARMs until there were no radars left....THEN attack whatever target these systems were defending.

  • @zipxd_sng
    @zipxd_sng 2 года назад +1

    Remember that winwing technology is your ultimate hardware solution :) 68

  • @bruce4623
    @bruce4623 2 года назад +8

    Hi everyone! ( Hey Cortana 😉)
    I love seeing you guys using the Patriot....
    .
    I was with Patriot ( 1983-87 ) when we were still testing it, I was at Ft. Bliss/White Sands Missile Range with it putting it through it's pases before it came (officially ) online
    Than we ALL went over to Germany ( 1984 ) with it to become the 1st Active Patriot Unit in Giessen Germany
    .
    *PS:* It was a great system back in the day, better at anti-missile than anti-aircraft if
    you ask me 😋

  • @canadianragin
    @canadianragin 2 года назад +2

    Oh my god. The Gepard is my new hero.

    • @KortanaDCS
      @KortanaDCS 2 года назад +1

      Mine too! I couldn't believe the beating it took and kept fighting. Definitely going to bring S-24's for it next time

  • @jackwickham6469
    @jackwickham6469 2 года назад

    I love these Sam site videos they are the best

  • @fqeagles21
    @fqeagles21 2 года назад +1

    Is there a Mod for Patriot PAC-3 SME?

  • @christopherjohnson529
    @christopherjohnson529 2 года назад +2

    Love the idea of using a Jeep for tooling around and getting a sense of scale. But I'm a VR user, and the DCS Store says that Combined Arms doesn't support VR. Is that true that driving a jeep wouldn't be in VR? I've ejected and walked around aircraft to get a proper sense of their size using VR, would welcome being faster than the walking pilot.

    • @RoamingAdhocrat
      @RoamingAdhocrat 2 года назад

      feature request: rollerskates for ejected pilots

  • @tomriley5790
    @tomriley5790 2 года назад +1

    What happened to the Patriot?

  • @Blackcloud_Garage
    @Blackcloud_Garage 2 года назад +1

    Good stuff as always. Does Cortana have a channel?

  • @hartzaden
    @hartzaden 2 года назад +2

    of note the chapparel has 8 spare missiles it carrys with it, reloading takes for ever do to the missiles needing to have there fins attached

  • @johndave117
    @johndave117 Год назад +1

    16:00 the Gepard is glitched

  • @BreakingWildGaming
    @BreakingWildGaming 2 года назад +4

    Great little educational experience. Have you done a TFR mission in a Tornado, like they started doing in Gulf War I against airfields? British stopped doing low level missions because they were too dangerous. Can the Grim Reapers step up to the plate and knock out the enemy runways?

  • @BellicTaxi
    @BellicTaxi 2 года назад +2

    You should try this with three Stinger guys and without telling jets missile have fired.Telling jets Fox Two missiles are out removes one of their best strengths. (I also think the games Ai limits the utility of the patriots).

  • @christopherhanton6611
    @christopherhanton6611 2 года назад +1

    VERY GOOD VIDEO AND THE Flakpanzer Gepard IS MY PERSONAL FAV OF NATO AAA AND SAM SYSTEMS. NO ONE CAN BEAT THE MIGHT GEPARD. ALSO IT MEANS cheetah its French.

  • @BellicTaxi
    @BellicTaxi 2 года назад +1

    Performance of Rapier,Roland,Gepard and Nasam was Sweet beautiful European Systems ❤️.(Also Chaparral In-game model needs update 🤢).

  • @ROTNReaper
    @ROTNReaper 2 года назад +6

    The Patriot ECS should be placed behind the Radar and rhe epp should be off to the right side of the two if you're going for accuracy

  • @LNZT
    @LNZT 2 года назад +1

    gepard even op in DCS, war thunder it can kill, good maneuver, and it can kill planes so good.

  • @turbinia
    @turbinia 2 года назад +1

    Is it possible to do a naval version of this? Might be interesting.

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  2 года назад +1

      I did think this but TBH the actual naval SAMS in game are very sparse.

  • @daiquylam3401
    @daiquylam3401 2 года назад +1

    Can you do another fly through the ha noi sam alley again? But this time using the most modern AA and AAA

  • @paulskowronski9509
    @paulskowronski9509 2 года назад

    the Vulcan gun is what we Americans call accuracy by volumes i..e put up a very dense and very large wall of rounds that is not so easily dodged. look clips of ciws or animations of the you'll know what I mean when I say a wall of lead is more cost effective than a missile 5:28 is when it actually starts working

  • @mrjava66
    @mrjava66 2 года назад +1

    "Wow! That's hard". That's what Cap said!

  • @iKumala
    @iKumala 2 года назад +2

    Great vid. Less kamikaze :)

  • @jantschierschky3461
    @jantschierschky3461 2 года назад +3

    Those US soldiers are brave, standing close to the launchers not afraid of the blast.

    • @PaletoB
      @PaletoB 2 года назад +1

      Dcs IA knows no fear.

    • @jantschierschky3461
      @jantschierschky3461 2 года назад

      @@PaletoB yes amazing not even go prone when fired upon.

  • @m1t2a1
    @m1t2a1 2 года назад +2

    Nike Hercules would be fun for a second.

  • @krismurphy7711
    @krismurphy7711 2 года назад +3

    CONCLUSION? Use standoff weapons!! There is a reason why they attack with HARMs first.

  • @Hairysteed
    @Hairysteed Год назад

    The Gepard is built on a Leopard 1 chassis. Leo 1 is not a thick skinned tank but it can certainly withstand autocannon fire.

  • @stevenlarratt3638
    @stevenlarratt3638 2 года назад +2

    The russian sams do not need to be as mobile as they wage war via roads on the asian continent so sizeis not amajor factor.
    The americans wage war on foreign shores so have developed systems to be more mobile and a smaller size so they can transport enough in volume to make enough of a dent to be effective... geography of the usa has so much influence on its systems its unbelievable

  • @MTBScotland
    @MTBScotland 2 года назад +1

    Rapier was pish in the falklands as well.

  • @TrojanHell
    @TrojanHell 2 года назад +1

    Gepard

  • @Craeshen
    @Craeshen 2 года назад

    so for a future redo go the full iads route and put multiple gepards in.

  • @frankbarnwell____
    @frankbarnwell____ 2 года назад +1

    The Atlanta class light cruiser?

  • @dipanshu4807
    @dipanshu4807 2 года назад

    I have quick question. I am new to DCS, not new but been here from sometime but never got much chance to play. I wanted to know, what's difference between DCS steam version and standalone?? I have steam version, should I move to standalone??
    It would be helpful if someone can tell more about this. 😅

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  2 года назад

      Standalone superior. Please use that.

  • @vulgar_potato4992
    @vulgar_potato4992 2 года назад +1

    Though yeah that’s the bane of a patriot battery, we have no short range air defense too cover the gap

  • @jamesd4013
    @jamesd4013 2 года назад +1

    Com'on....taking out the VULCAN with a Kamikasi

  • @phizzhead53
    @phizzhead53 Год назад

    Never point a radar speed gun at a military aircraft to see how fast its going, as its basicaly saying hey shoot me.

  • @CMB21497
    @CMB21497 2 года назад +1

    This sim over rates the Russian systems, and under rates the NATO systems. Patriot is a VERY good system.

    • @CaptinPelley
      @CaptinPelley 2 года назад

      the ai in the game is really stupid

  • @montys420-
    @montys420- 2 года назад +1

    Awesome it has NASAMS, is it able to communicate with link 16 in game like it can in rl?? Cause u can set up Awesome sambushes with NASAMS with link 16

    • @montys420-
      @montys420- 2 года назад +2

      @@TeenTeenFpv which is easy to do, cause the missile battery isn't emitting radiation and can sit quietly upto 15km/mls away from the actual search radar and talking via link 16

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  2 года назад +1

      Not sure but I am becoming worried about NASAMS now...

  • @chrismoule7242
    @chrismoule7242 2 года назад +1

    Flakpanzer Gepard: wow...

  • @potatokilr7789
    @potatokilr7789 8 месяцев назад

    14:05 wow the soldier with the bolt action rifle shot down the jet!!!111!1!!1!!