FOX, BRA & Air Combat Terminology | Koala Explains: Missile Types & Brevity Codes
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- Опубликовано: 22 май 2024
- Military pilots use a lot of lingo to succinctly convey information about targets and engagements, directives, etcetera. Today, we'll go over some of the most common and most important of such "Brevity codes", explaining what they mean and when they're used, and the difference between the missiles and systems they refer to.
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00:00 Intro
01:15 Basic Terms
05:08 Weapons Codes (FOX 1, 2 and 3)
11:34 Active Combat Terminology
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Few extra notes:
Bingo is a level of poundage of fuel calculated and set by the pilot before the mission and changes based upon many factors, mostly the distance between the target area and runway. For example you set your bingo at 2,000 lbs. once you have less than 2,000 lbs of fuel in your tank(s) you’ll get blaring in your ears telling you “bingo”.
Bingo is the minimum amount of fuel required to return to base with a little extra for safety. When you hit bingo you need to disengage and bug out to home plate. There’s another higher point, Joker, which is used to let the pilot know that they need to finish up their engagement and not take a new one.
While you don’t often fire upon bogeys no matter how much Hollywood tries to convince us, there are certain cases, called outlaw, where a bogey becomes a valid target under specific ROE, usually a combination of point-of-origin (where the aircraft took off from, entered picture from) and aircraft type. This is quite rare but there is a brevity code for it should the need arise.
An important brevity code to know in complex modern aircraft is bent, meaning inoperative or broken. Hard bent means it’s really fucked and not going to fixed until you’re in the garage apologizing to maint with a couple six packs.
Also, the Russians don’t have an official brevity code system like US/NATO, opting for loosely standardized long form, but individual units may have slang that functions similarly.
Yeah a good example from a game is mw2 the snowmobile mission they say “bingo fuel” and not having enough to get back
There’s a lot more said the gist of it is him just saying they are at bingo fuel and will not have enough to get back if they wait any longer essentially meaning they hit the minimum fuel they can use to get back to base
Joker is typically 15-30 min to bingo depending on fuel usage. Bent is most often used for Radar issues, as well as midnight and sunrise. Timber sweet/sour is for link issues.
It's BRAA, two A's (you have it right in the vid but wrong in the title)
what does the 4th A in the "BRAA" message mean, bearing-range-altitude... A___?
Real life: “Do not attack foreign fighters in our airspace if it doesn’t fire first, it’s probably lost”
Ace combat: “Hippity hoppity get the fuck off my property”
Hippity hoppity, its time for fox 3ery
Hippity hoppity machine gun go poppity
Depends on how far along in the game you are. Second half is usually telling them to fuck off their own property
Ace Combat: "The IFF marks you as red, I diagnose you with dead"
when you ran out of missles
hahah machine gun go BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRTTTTTTT
To be a pilot and see your fox 2 follow its dreams and chase the forbidden heat signature must bring a tear to your eyes.
Fox 2 joins the space program
The fox-2 when it sees a flare be like
Brothor I crave the forbidden heat signature
What’s the forbidden heat signature
@@TheEaglePilot the biggest heat signature of them all. The Sun.
Don't forget Winchester, which is very eloquent code for;
"I'm out of useful ammo, specific ammo, or ammo in general. Please fucking help."
Or in case of it being an A-10 pilot saying that is the sign of a day gone very well.
@@Ko_Kasumi That, or that you just bombed 3 afghani weddings a civilian truck transporting 3 bricks and the rest dropped onto random holes in the ground you though might have enemies inside wasting half a million dollars in munitions.
@@250Skyer250 in the case of the A-10 specifically, that's not so accurate. Now, if we're talking about all the F-15s flying over there you're more than likely right, unfortunately.
@@250Skyer250 is that not a good day?
Joking don't kill me
Most ordinance we use usually cost about 30k a pop.
Throwback to a time almost 30 years ago, when I was a radar operator in the navy. I didn't expect this to trigger long forgotten impulses inside of me. Like hands twitching to assume positions they didn't need to take for decades. Weird ...
it was your training because you trained constantly it allows you to do by muscle memory
Navy training, so good I can do anything wasted. Roof Rat. Coral Sea, Shifty Kitty, Ranger and The Big E.
@@mikeintampa1
Air Force training.....so good that when you're involved in joint command exercises you spend 30% of your time fixing everyone elses shit because the other branches can't.
@@mikeintampa1
Are you sure those aren't yoga positions?
@@mrfreezeable2930 muscle memory still keeps you tactically effective Good Sir and thank you for your service
I’m reading up on this to play VTOL VR with full realism. The thing I’m scared of is in multiplayer if a friendly locks onto me and I say “Buddy Spike” And they don’t understand and I just hear “Fox 3” Followed by an incoming missile alert.
*Looks at share button 👀
@@ArmorCast Aight now that was a good plug lmao
@@ArmorCast because of that im sharing this video
I love vtol vr but the multiplayer is full of early teenage kids having no clue.
That just means you got "Frendly Fuqued".....
Real life: Don’t shoot at anything unless we tell you to otherwise you could start WW3
Ace combat: Eh it’s probably hostile, FOX 3
Sees a refugee tent.
It propably has a commander in it.
@@theholypeanut8193 FOX 3 at that as well.
@@alinalexandru2466 Actually "rifle".
@@395leandro Nah, if you've played any Ace Combat game, you'd know that you shoot FOX 3 and FOX 2 at everything. Yes, both ground and air.
@@alinalexandru2466 Oh yeah, forgot it was Ace Combat we were talking about.
"Try not to shoot him, or you start the WW3"
Trigger: i missed the part where that's my problem *spam FOX 3*
MAGE 2!!!
Oh my God, Mother Goose One is down!
Yo, buddy. Still alive?
"There are pilots like you in every generation, and i've felled every last one of them"
@@Not_MissHina what does felled even mean?
@@thepolishtech1552 dunno, that's what mihaly said
AWACS: jet are coming, bearing 210 at altitude 10,000 feet, you can use your weapons.
Koala 1-1: two enemy aircraft, holding the bearing, launching Missiles guided by onboard radar.
You missed distance: 413 and you missed their heading: flanking
I stick to ground warfare, with a lot of middle fingers blaring like SPH SPAA SPAAA, SPM SPR, and so on,
And tally - i can see them
Correct:AWACS: “group 210, ten thousand, track east, hostile, two contacts.”
Kola 11: “contact, 210, ten thousand, spades, print Fulcrum, Fox Three.”
@@AmvC almost. Tally means have visual on trails and/or aircraft. You can have RADAR lock without tally. This is known as BVR.
Me fox1s are so useless
Koala: you can break a lock if you lock onto a friendly
Me with WT PTSD: fox 1's are national treasures
Just can’t go defensive or do an effective offensive crank when you use them or mad dog missiles
God I love the r60 with those nasty pulls but god damn those friendlies deciding to fall from orbit right in front of my target just to get their ass eaten by my r60
@@greggleason8467 Even worse, after eating -30k SL from killing friendly, the original target kills you...
Casually learned 40% of this in Ace Combat 7
Ace Combat 5
Heard it all while playing AC 4 and 5, learned it in 7
Agreed
Such amazing games
Agreed
Yeah the intro makes me want an AWACS in warthunder
Edit: find it strange how I can go back to time pre PC "BPC" if you will
We have that in DCS.
Yeah come and play dcs if you want some realism
@@shootingstar9040
Alright lend me $2000 so get a decent setup
@@sam8742 what do you mean “decent setup”? If you can launch war thunder, most likely you also able to launch DCS. DCS is not new game.
I wish we could set Bullseye points, seems very useful
17:45 "You're Spiked, and I'm ready to Fox 3".
Can be a dirty pick up line too 🤣
"try not to shoot him, you might start WW3"
**6 seconds later**
"MONARCH, FOX 3 FOX 3!"
*Nukes Cascadia… twice
@@ArmorCast nice
-Water under a bridge-
no no. Just go with Fox 2. I love his big juicy after burners.
Some Star Citizen fighter player are stating to use some of these brevity terms in Discord or game voice chat. Other terms are impossible to use due to lack of direction or coordinates not yet implemented in the game. The game as a substantial flight sim component to it along with complex combat flight dynamics.
I’m a big fan of star citizen, always wanted to see it lean more into the sim side of things 😄
I heard Rifle all the time when I worked with UAVs (Predators) but one code that we used to hear occasionally was "Winchester" when an attack aircraft (like a B-1) came back with all weapons expended. Whenever you heard Winchester, you knew it was a good day.
a good day for everyone except the reason that attack aircraft said winchester
Would it still be winchester if weapons were lost due to... Unfortunate technical problems?
Like a round of AA somehow ripping off the pylon on a missile?
@@lucasgamezz140 Probably not. The pilot would probably report issues with the aircraft.
YES! A re-release of the one that made me a “wee bastard”! My favorite vid on pretty much all time when it comes to military related vids! I don’t know why, but I just makes me happy learning/relearning this stuff!
“wee bastard” hahaha gold
AWACS: *Sees bogeys up ahead
B r u h
Lmao but thanks for the explanations and clarifications, great video mate!
“But can also lock onto the sun” this made me laugh so much harder than it should have
i hope some Upisnotjump viewer sees this, because
"DAMN YOU SUN!!!!!"
@@FiftyCharacters I saw it
Flash back to DCS, chasing a bandit, hearing the AIM-9 lock on tone, pulling the trigger only to watch the little boom stick track in to the Sun instead of the tailpipe of my intended target. A lesson was learned that day… that lesson being that I’m a slow learner, because I did the same damned thing again on the next turn 😂
@@CoffeeMatt10 😂😂😂
"Brother, I crave the forbidden heat signature"
this whole vid gives that scene in The Incredibles much more context to what Helen is saying, particularly the "buddy spike" callout.
I agree. But if you are locked up from the ground, it is called mud per this video. So I think she should have said 'mud spiked' as I believe it was a ground based RADAR and missiles that were fired at her. Syndrome could have had air assets to lock her up and ground based missiles to fire I guess.
@@steveaustin2686 she's assuming it's a friendly, so a buddy spike. Mud is a hostile ground radar.
@@SuwinTzi Ah, you are right
In case someone has not seen this awesome scene: ruclips.net/video/5bBFsLUe8Ec/видео.html
So glad to have found this channel. While I have a lot of latitude as a professional military science fiction writer I'm always working to better reflect the modern military so I appreciate this comprehensive list of brevity codes and their use in a sentence (because shock horror a list of brevity codes doesn't explain what that sentence looks like)
what have you written? I’m always on the lookout for new things to read.
That's awesome! Where can I get some of your works?
The reason you use "Bullseye" is so you can give a position or bearing using a point the enemy does not know, rather than your own, potentially giving away your position is your chatter is monitored by the enemy.
Also, you use Bullseye calls when providing calls to multiple fighter sections.
Most if not all coms are encrypted bull is so everyone is on the same page
But you would be able to know the bullseye after 2 calls. Right?
@@wirytiox1577
Actually the bullseye (bullseyes) is established before the mission. For example, you may have Bravo-Echo Zero-One (BE-01) to Bravo-Echo Zero-Seven (BE-07) pre-planned. During the mission, you can say dozen plus enemy Tangos. Bravo-Echo Zero-Two at zero-four-two degrees, 20 kilometers. Someone will then get out the map, find Bravo-Echo Zero-Two (BE-02), draw a line from it 42 degrees from North, and measure out 20 kilometers from BE-02. By using an external reference point, you did not give away your location.
@@ycplum7062 i have to say this. im sorry, my brain is too small for all that. but im thankfull that you took the time to explain it.
I knew most of these, but not that initial set of identifiers. Fast mover is obviously a jet, but I thought bogey and bandit were somewhat interchangeable, never thought to look those up. Never gonna use this knowledge for anything except watching old movies and talking to myself in War Thunder, but I love it anyway!
EDIT: Oh, I also didn't know about the air-to-surface codes. I remember in Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2, a couple F-15s launch some HARMs at a target and say "Fox-3" and I was always wondering why they were using an air-to-air code.
same and talking to others in war thunder and see how confused they get
I thought booger was unknown target but bandit was hostile targets that you can shoot immediately
Apparently bandits are just we know who they are and we don’t like them
But don’t kill them
@@colindiver6657 Confuse all the War Thunder players, but in DCS you get confused yourself because of how much more brevity that everyone uses that you never even knew existed
Just remember unlike in real life, there is pretty much no ambiguity about targets in War Thunder, COD, Arma, and the majority of DCS scenarios - if a contact is not a friendly, the only other option is that it is an active enemy targets with licence to kill.
Well COD wasn't that accurate anyways
While they did launch an amraam, amraam isn't for aa platforms. Instead they should be using the maverick, which in this case will be Rifle. And did COD use the mudhen or the C variant? Cuz 15C can't conduct AGM attacks , thus can't use maverick
pilots give each other call signs not as compliments but as insults. so a pilot with a call sign of “killer” is a danger to the team likely due to a near-fatal friendly fire incident and “maverick” is an air to ground missile meaning a bad pilot that is likely to crash.
I think "Wedge" is supposed to be one the gravest of insulting callsigns. Whereas most of the others appear to be good-natured ribbing and reminders not to do the mistake that earned your callsign again, "Wedge" seems to be given to the one true fuck up of the unit.
I mean I would to
Hey killer you mind not To target the civilian van?
Killer: I AM TRYING!
@@patchmoulton5438 Probably wedged a plane in a mountain
Or Maverick as in doesn’t follow orders or Moover because he blew up some cows
@@jameson1239 i would think calling a pilot “Maverick” cause he doesn’t follow orders would probably not so much remind him to follow orders as it would make him feel like he was a boss for not following orders. being a loose cannon wouldn’t get you called “Cannon”. it would get you called “Lucy”. its more likely you could get called “Maverick” by firing one of your Mavericks at an aerial target when you were supposed to be firing a sidewinder at it.
Fun fact about HARMs is that they're the main reason B-52's don't have tail guns anymore. One of them got its tail blown off by one during Desert Storm and they decided afterwards that they really didn't need those things anymore.
The tail gun malfunctioned or something?
@@doggo_woo an AGM-88 HARM mistook its search radar for an Iraqi SAM and hit it.
The B-52H rolled out in the early 60's, there was no tail gun for almost thirty years before that incident.
I’m impressed I was expecting just a reupload of the previous video which would have been fine but this is nice and refined. Also the gibberish means “people over there you can shoot them”
thank god you released this. my friend's gonna buy the F-14 in DCS to be my RIO. was dreading having to teach him this stuff. now i can just send him this video.
Learned most of the crash course basics in HAWX and Ace Combat 7. They’ve gotten really accurate with the terms as far as I can see. Also, I’m so happy that there are lots of AC fans here. Lol
Nearly 40 years ago I was an anti aircraft missile operator and was an AA Tactical Controler 10 years later. Waiting for Soviet bombers to emerge over the horizon. And some Argentine too. Very different terminology used by us but nice to hear it from the other end. Nice vid mate.
F-14 flexing: AIM-54 can receive initial guidance information from another linked F-14 or the awacs through the launching F-14's datalink.
I recall this being public knowledge back in the 90s when Fleet Defender was released. This is magic enough that I dont think they advertise any other aircraft doing it.
According to Wikipedia, the latest AMRAAM has a ~80nm range. It being an active radar guided missile, I think it could receive instructions via Link 16.
AMRAAM and JTAM can guide on link. The capability was developed for the Phoenix, but was never actually put into service (I believe because it and the Tomcat had already been planned to be retired)
The "vampire" call is also pretty chilling in Tom Clancy's Red Storm Rising.
instant goosebumps 😬
Different combat medium, but it's up there with 'fish in the water'.
Considering the vampire call starting at 11:05 is a F-14 pilot calling that multiple Kelt missiles launched by Backfire bombers were closing in on a US carrier, I'm pretty sure that sequence was taken pretty much whole cloth from Red Storm rising.
Regarding "Spike": Your RWR tells you if a radar is in search or tracking mode. If another plane is being tracked and you're along the same axis to the radar, you'll get a 'spike'.
With that and RWR blind spots in mind, it can come very useful.
9:09 To expand upon the "pitbull for the AIM-54 Phoenix was about 10 miles" comment: the AIM-54 had 3 different pitbull ranges that were determined by a target size switch that the RIO could change. When set for a small target (generally fighter sized) it would go active at 7 nautical miles, for a medium sized target (think a smaller transport aircraft or a larger attack aircraft) it was 10 nautical miles, and for a large aircraft (something like a big bomber) it was 13 nautical miles.
It could also be sent as pitbull off the rails in “Phoenix active” mode
@@oceanforth21 it wasnt “sent pitbull off the rails” in Phoenix active mode, it was shot maddog. Pitbull is specifically when the missile seeker goes active when switching from cruise to terminal flight. Maddog is when it gets sent off the rail active.
It would also be launched maddog if the acm cover was flipped up, the range to target was shorter than 10 miles, or it was shot using a P-STT lock.
@@MCF2233 maddog is when it gets sent with the ability for post acquirance actually
@@oceanforth21 what do you mean by post acquirance? Like the missile can acquire a new lock after its lost its original, or do you mean that it acquires a lock after launch?
If you mean the former, then you're wrong. Maddog mean that the missile is immediately actively searching for a target and locking onto the first thing it sees. The reason its called maddog is because pilots and the people who came up with the mode compared it to releasing a mad dog and just letting it chase the first thing it sees. It just goes and tries to attack the first thing it sees and it can only be affected by pointing it in a certain direction.
If you mean the latter, you're kind of right. any missile being launched maddog has to lock on post launch because it cant have its radar on and transmitting while its still in a position where it could acquire on the aircraft that launched it or irradiate the crew of the aircraft that launched it with its radar emissions. So to avoid those things the missiles radar is only activated once it is under thrust and it has traveled a short distance. this also solves the problem of the missile needing to have a clear line of sight on its target to acquire a lock, which things like the MAK-79 aerodynamic fairings in the case of the phoenix, the fuselage of the aircraft itself for the AMRAAM, or other weapons infront of the missile for both of them can cause.
But besides technicalities, Maddog = missile active straight off the mothership aircraft and not being controlled by said aircraft possibly besides an initial angle to look down, and pitbull = the missile going active after being guided in on a target by its mothership aircraft.
@@MCF2233 yeah then you’re wrong about what Phoenix active is, Phoenix active instantly launches the missile in an active state and it is never guided by the radar, but it does acquire only the target locked by the radar upon launch, it is not a maddog mode
I was an AT (Aviation Electronics Technician) in the Navy so I can add another term: Does not work in OFF position (On For Flight). It's a dad joke but it still makes me laugh.
Or 'Off Full Force'
We called it "official mode."
Rifle and Magnum are my favorite callouts. Pickles are pretty good, too. Kosher Pickles in particular.
Me as ArmA 3 Air Superiority fighter: "Command, there are other aircraft in MY airspace, turning on the fireworks now"
"FOX 3, FOX 3!"
That intro had me saying "Fox 3" inside the first 10 words lol
Typically when a friendly asks for a bogey dope, unless the aircraft is declared hostile or can be engaged, when you give BRAA for aspect you simple use cardinal direction like “track north” you reserve terms like “hot” for when the aircraft is hostile.
So much fast moving information, almost 19 minutes long seems like three or four minutes.
Usually a 19 minute video seems like three or four hours and I am yelling at the phone “get to the point“ but not in this case.
Excellent video I enjoyed it a lot.
I was looking for terms like 1 circle or 2 circle, refering to manouvers in air to air combat...
Other POI's - Points of Interest
AIM - Air Intercept Missile
AAM - Air to Air
SAM - Surface to Air
FOD - Forign Object Debris
B - Bomber (B17)
F - Fighter
P - Patrol
C - Cargo
SR - Stealth Recon
X - Experimental
K - Tanker
E - Electronics
T - Trainer
Nice
remember though 'P' used to be Pursuit, the American name for what the rest of the world called a 'fighter'. They only changed from P to F in 1947, before that all their fighters were designated 'P'. The most famous plane to use both designations was the Mustang, flying as the P51 in WW2 and the F51 in Korea.....
@@Debbiebabe69 Wow interesting. and even more interesting a female who knows about it all. I am in the wrong country.
[shoots down active threat as it crosses border]
UN: "nooooo...don't do thaaaat..."
What’s the Un gonna do, their job? Fat fuckin chance.
Didn’t expect to see this kind of video, actually liked it. splendid work!
So basically FOX are :
Firing Offensive X (where is the target, using weaponary type1, type 2, type 3 and maybe type 4, if not using gun on FOX4).
BRA : B is Bearing, R is Range, A is Altitude
i think i need remember this one
@5:48 "FOX1 FOX1, Aw Jesus" that was hilarious
Excellent video and a good look into the lingo fighter pilots use.
Thank you! this will help so much in coordinating with fellow commuters in fending off the several SAAB 37 Viggens that regularly engage us on the way to school!
this was very educational, nice one!
Love the little audio clips you put in as examples, great!
Ah, yeah, this takes me back to when I used to play Strike Fighters 2. That's where I learned some of these codes, still didn't understand all of them... Great video!
Angels should only be used for friendly contacts. A typical call from AWACS (Magic callsign used below) giving a PICTURE might be something like this: "Magic, Three group Ladder, 15 deep. Lead group Bullseye 320 - 20 - 32000, track south, three contacts, swept North West, Hostile. Middle group 16000, two contacts line abreast, Hostile. Trail group 4000, single contact, bogey."
So the picture here is that there are three distinct groups in 15 mile long trail (a ladder) heading in the same direction. Lead group is given an anchor with the bullseye format and the middle and trail groups are in relation to the lead group. The first (lead) group has three enemy (Hostile) aircraft flying in an echelon NW formation (swept) within 3NM of each other and their altitude is 32000ft. The second (middle) group is a pair of enemy aircraft (Hostile) in a line abreast formation (side by side within 3NM) at 16000ft and they are Hostile. The third group (trail) is a single unidentified aircraft flying at 4000ft.
You are correct. Angels should only be used for friendly aircraft, altitude for everything else.
Just a clarification. The Skyflash missile is no longer in-service with the RAF. It was last deployed on the Tornado F3 which went out of service in 2011.
The Eurofighter Typhoon Captor radar is not equipped with an Illuminator Transmitter. The original development model had an Illuminator option to support the Italian aircraft which was to use the Aspide semi-active missile (an Italian Sparrow), but this option was withdrawn.
I was the Programme Manager for the Skyflash missile trials at Naval Air Station Point Mugu. The missile was so accurate we took out 4 QF4 Phantom drones, much to the displeasure of the USN.
I was also part of the Euroradar management team for the Captor radar (previously known as ECR 90).
Fox-1: Semi-active radar guided missile that uses the aircraft's onboard radar to see the target meaning you have to keep the lock on enemy aircraft to hit 'em. Example: AIM-7 Sparrow range: max 43 miles.
Fox-2 : Passive self guided IR homing missile that tracks the IR signature of the enemy aircraft. Example: AIM-9X Sidewinder range: 22 miles
Fox-3 : Active radar homing missile the missile has onboard radar meaning you can lose the lock and still hit the target as the missile still has lock with its own radar. Example : AIM-120 AMRAAM range: 50 miles
Also, for at least the AMRAAM, you don't actually need a hard lock in the first place. There's a radar mode that will just scan a smaller area of the sky, and that still sees the enemy aircraft often enough to update guidance to the AMRAAM. It wouldn't work for a sparrow, but only seeing something every 2 seconds lets an AMRAAM know where to look with the seeker, and it can just guide itself in from there on out.
Let us not forget Fox-4 : I rammed the darn thing.
PFFFT AIM120 RANGE IS _SO_ NOT 100 MILES
You're thinking of the Phoenix... which didn't even have that much range.
thanks mario very cool👍
Or in its simplest terms:
Fox 1 = remote guided missile.
Fox 2 = heat seeker.
Fox 3 = homer.
I already knew most of these because they are sort of necessary to understand Red Storm Rising, but it was cool to learn ones I had never heard of.
Also, contact is the same in subs and a track is called a Sierra there.
According to Sub Briefs, it's dependent on how you see the contact in question.
(S) Sierra - detected by sonar
(R) Romeo - detected by RADAR
(E) Echo - detected by ESM
(V) Victor - detected by visual observation (periscope or bridge)
(M) Master - upgraded to this if detected by more than one sensor type
Love this video Koala, explained most of the basics for people who don’t know.
Yo scp 173 is it you?
Thank you so much! I’ve now fully understood the ‘Fox’ terms!! ❤️
Excellent video. Thank you.
I've always wanted to get an early understanding in detail about this.
Persian gulf 1988
I remember hearing " vampire in bound." Still pucker when i hear it now.
Dcs players be like: hold my beer
I knew all of this already, it was my time
Overlord 1-1: Request bogey dope
@@v0id683 ford 1, overlord, Bra 220, for 40, at 25000, flanking
Excellent video!! Very well done. Keep up the great work!!
Making a Macross/Robotech rpg and this video’s been super useful for explaining the language which I want to use as much as possible to make it authentic for my players.
More words I can confuse my friends with while in combat
that user name
a fellow IronBlood enjoyer as well
@@randominternetguy88 hello there
I was so confused when I read the notification on my phone because of your username
I love doing that, especially on a normal flight sim where my mates don't know squat. Just speaking arranged gibberish with complete confidence and stunning ur mates as they have no idea on how to respond.
Haven't played and seen AL in ages but screw u...Northern Parliament all the way
“Hostile at 121. Fox-2, ripple. Impact negligible. Repeat, impact negligible. This damn thing isn’t dying!”
*the last transmission of the Fairgraves Fighter Wing during their battle against our Sun*
Thanks for including the warthogs at the end. My second favorite fighter aircraft, only to the F4U Corsair. 3rd favorite fighter is the F4 Phantom. My brother was a crew chief in Nam on that aircraft. Favorite WWII bomber is the B17. I wish I had the plastic scale models I built when I was a kid of all these aircraft.
Good vid 👍🏻. Remember hearing a recording years back of, I think an F-15 driver in Desert Storm, shooting a heater and he made the call “Fox 2, all burners out!”. Always thought that was a cool call, dude was thinking.
Angels is friendlies only.
Bearing is NOT given in ten degree increments only.
BEAMING is perpendicular. Flanking is when they're between perpendicular and headed towards you (30-60 degrees)
Cease Fire means to not fire anything else. Any missiles currently tracking may continue to do so, but regardless of whether you're "done" with the engagement, you can't shoot again. (This wasn't necessarily incorrect in the video, but it was, in my opinion, unclear).
Bullseye isn't supposed to be shortened to Bull.
:1984:
Angels isn't just friendlies - hell, you can hear Angels callouts from the F-14 pilots in the example clip, which where VF-41 pilots going up against Libyan MiG's in '89 (keep in mind while they still used "Bogeys", they could pretty much guarantee those were Libyan fighters as soon as they detected them). You can also find examples of the same thing happening in the Persian Gulf in '91.
As for everything else, keep in mind this is all GENERAL stuff, so bearings are IN GENERAL rounded to the 10 degrees, Bullseye IN GENERAL can be shortened to bull or bulls (again, the example is from a real combat mission flown by F-16 pilots in Serbia), and flanking is IN GENERAL a side-aspect (more so with older radars where exact direction was difficult to tell, and it applies more when IN combat, given that flanking can also be an attempt to notch your radar, or defend against your missiles, etcetera)
@@ArmorCast "ANGELS: Height of FRIENDLY aircraft in
thousands of feet from mean sea level
(MSL)"
-The most recent ALSA Brevity manual I can find. Incorrect usage in the wild doesn't make it suddenly correct. It means it's incorrect and somebody slipped up on freq.
You didn't specify that you were speaking generally at any point I can recall; if you were, please link me to a time stamp, I'll happily apologize.
Flanking is indeed somewhat side aspect, but perpendicular is a specific word with a specific meaning, and "headed slightly towards you and slightly to the side" is not that meaning. Beaming is perpendicular. Flanking is not.
@@static_actual i was looking for this since i remember that Angels is for friendly Altitude, but i cant seem to remember what to use for unfriendly one. Do you know?
@@rifqitaqiuddin Unfriendly is just given in thousands of feet, no brevity.
AWACS
"We have jet aircraft inbound at a bearing of 210 degrees, 13 miles and 10000 feet, side on."
"You have permission to engage and destroy them."
Koala 1-1
"I understand. I can see two enemy aircraft, moving left to right sideways at 10 miles."
"I have fired two semi active radar guided homing missiles at the targets."
I watched Air Force One last night again, and I heard the fighter pilot say Fox 3 as he released a weapon, but I didn't know what it meant. Now I do. Thanks. Getting a sub from me.
👍 Great refresher for an old school Navy AIC. Thanks. I needed that.
Good video! But "nails" does not mean the enemy has detected you, it simply means that your RWR has picked up a radar signal. Remember that if you get hit by a radar signal it does not mean that that same signal wil make it all the way back to the sender. you can detect incoming radar signals from way further than the radar signal can give an accurate return.
Also, "mud" doesn't mean you have been locked or detected yet. for pretty much the same reason. "Nails" and "Mud" are just codes for when the RWR detects any incoming radar beams in search mode. If you call out "Spike" or "Mudspike" that means the radar is now tracking you and could potentially fire missiles at you.
Mudspike isn't a thing.
Nails is the A/A version of Dirt. (Radar in search)
Spiked is the A/A version of Mud. (Radar in track)
@@marlan__ mudspike is brevity for a tracking ground radar, look it up.
@@arjentromp12 It's not, lol. You look it up and realize that the only hits on Google you'll get is people in video game forums, or people specifically calling it out as wrong. If you look up the ATP 1-02.1 you'll realize it's not in there.
Why do I have a feeling if there’s gonna be some Air Force chap here in and studying for a big test
That would be me soon, hopefully.
I just saw Koala and planes. From Australia so i was sold bro. Subbed and liked
I feel so proud to know about half of this already from playing Jane's USAF back in the days👍
Wished you included Maddog.
Has there been a Maddog call out outside of training scenarios? I can't seem to find any evidence of that one being used.
@@patchmoulton5438 There is good reason for that. Boresighting missiles (which is what the mad dog code is mainly intended for) is tactically something the only reasons you would do would be if you were heavily outnumbered in the air (boresight everything you have at max range, scram back to base, and rearm), or if both belligerents had so many planes in the air it makes more sense to shoot at the mass of planes rather than waiting until you can lock up one specific plane.
NATO forces have never been outnumbered in the air (in fact pretty much every conflict they have been involved in, they have enjoyed air superiority at worst, air supremacy at best), and have never faced a mass of enemy planes so big that boresighting was a realistic option.
FOX One! (FOX One!) When you ain't got nothing left.
FOX Two! (FOX Two!) It's the heater in your chest.
FOX Three! (FOX Three!) The only friend you ever need...
*begins to sing along*
Someone drinks their coffee with a big ol' shot of Weed. :)
Thanks for the great summary and explanation.
This helps me a lot. Started getting into DCS.
Question: When you drop an AMRAAM in SRA/Boresight mode and the terminal seeker activates soon as it leaves the ship, do you say "Fox Three Mad Dog" or simply go with "Mad Dog"?
You also forgot to include the "egress" and "winchester" terminologies.
Excellent Video! Learned Cool Stuff 😎👌
I've read a few of these terms in Tom Clancy novels, but never did break away to research the context. Now I know a bit better, but I'll have to replay it whenever I get stuck. Thanks for helping this civvie out!
Just asking for some clarification, what is the brevity code for unguided rockets? In Project Wingman, they use "Nails, nails, nails" when launching multiple rockets; but here, Nails is used to indicate radar warning?
Yep. Nail's is related to radar warning
Where the confusion comes in is that the French actually call their air to surface rockets “nails”, due to their shape, but it’s not a brevity code.
As far as I’m aware, there isn’t one for rockets
@@ArmorCast This is all easily findable in the ALSA Brevity documents. Nails is correct for air to surface rockets.
@@static_actual Its weird to use a air to air term for air to ground but yeah its correct.
I’d be tempted to go with ‘rockets’ probably followed by ‘ripple’. It makes sense for forward firing unguided weapons to be called as they are, like ‘guns’.
We've been kind of adapting these in Star Citizen in a fighter combat based org and did have a question. Is there a brevity code for firing from a rocket pod? Is it just called "Rocket" or do you swap it out with 'Rifle' since that's for Air-to-ground missiles? I've been searching everywhere for this.
size 1 & 2 is "shotgun", size 3 is 'magnum' and size 4 is Rifle or maverick. What do you use for deep space BRA callouts?
@@ITZHA5H So in SC, there is atmospheric flying so BRAA pretty much works the same there. In space we usually want to set a bullseye and altitude will often become either an angle of attack (roughly given) or just a general above, at, or below based off of the "solar plane" (the general plane at which the planets in the solar system orbit). If you're above the solar plane, then you say either "above" or "high" and if you're below it then it's "below" or "low" and if you're pretty much level with the star then it's just "at." It isn't perfect but it works for the most part.
Unfortunately in SC they haven't implemented any kind of AWACS type ships yet (there are plans for ships with larger radar dishes that can spot enemies at much greater distances/scan for stealth ships etc but it has not been implemented yet so we gotta work with what we have.
I usually need this terminology to get through traffic. I have always wanted to fire sidewinders at cars that cut me off.
When it comes to brevity codes in movies, the one I like to listen to regularly is Helen Parr in The Impossibles. :)
(also I never knew Scottish Koala's existed. You learn something new every day)
The vid is exellent! Cant find the refference about the F-14 trailer with "Vampire" callouts. Every trailer is with music or smth, can someone pls link? C:
DCS: F-14 - Pre-Order / Gameplay Reveal Trailer, roughly 100 seconds in.
@@OniGanon Ty very much!
Finally someone who understands how frequent air to air combat really is in average daily life
Beautiful tutorial :) Thanks for sharing.
Excellent video!
I absolutely love this. I went from understanding maybe every third word/term to being able to decipher the code phrases at the start in one viewthrough. :D
AWACS: Jets (fast movers) inbound, bearing 210 (from AWACS perspective), distance 13 km, altitude 10,000 feet, travelling perpendicular to your (Koala's) heading. You are cleared to engage the targets (cleared hot).
Koala 1-1: Roger, I have visual on 2 confirmed enemies (bandits), travelling perpendicular to flank. Launching SARH missile (AWACS guided).
(Twice? This is the only part I didn't quite get. If they call out FOX multiple times, is that just for clarity, or can it actually mean they launch multiple missiles of the same type at once, or back to back?)
In this case, calling 'Fox 1' twice IS just for clarity. If you were launching multiple sidewinders for example, you might say "Fox 2, ripple" (kinda unnecessary), but you can't ripple fire SARH missiles anyway
I've known about brevity codes since I was a kid, but until seeing this, it never occurred to me that they'd come in very handy for MMO raiding and other multiplayer games. I wonder if top raiding guilds use them...
MMOs have their own brevity codes
Dot him up
Do the dance
Burn him
There are tons more that I'm missing but you get it. Unless the game has a large enough portion of the player base that already knows military brevity codes, it's easier to say "there's 3 with a healer at waterworks"
@@seizethemeansproduction some others that I know of include "raidwides", "stack", "spread", "cleave" and probably the most common one "adds"
@@arieltimeshrine8137 "melee needs to stack the adds and cleave them to 20 before they aggro on heals" is basically gibberish if you don't already a know a lot of terms and jargon
EVE Online lingo surpasses all.
@@Ranger1741 EVE Online, there you go. Because I'm not just talking about jargon any more than OP. I'm talking about brevity. Although, yes, I dind't quite realize it, but a lot of raid jargon CAN work as brevity codes, we have sort of an organic tradition rather than a curated system.
Excellent video, very informative
Considering my on screen "call sign" the Phantom video was especially nice!
DCS players: *use the calls correctly and with precision*
War thunder players: *FLIES IN WITH AFTERBURNERS STRAIGHT TO THE ENEMY WHILE BLASTING "DANGER ZONE" OR "FREE BIRD" AT FULL VOLUME ONLY TO GET OBLITERATED IMMEDIATELY AND RAGE QUIT*
What would be the brevity code for an Electro Optical Air to Air missile since it uses a whole different type of guidance?
There are no fully electro-optical air to air missiles as far as I’m aware. There are a couple of missiles that use electro optical sensors in CONJUNCTION with other guidance types, but they retain the Fox callout of their basic systems (Fox 2 or Fox 3).
Electro-optical air to ground missiles or SAMs are relatively widespread, but neither AGM’s nor SAMs are defined by guidance type (outside anti-radiation missiles having the Magnum callout).
One interesting thing would be laser guided AAM’s, I’m not sure if they’ve ever had a brevity callout since the US never used them as far as I’m aware. These codes ARE standard among Western nations, but the US are kinda the driving force
@@ArmorCast Beam riding missiles like the RBS right?
As soon as somebody makes one of those, I'd expect it to be a Fox 4
@@static_actual Fox 4 is the old callout for guns, so more likely it'd be called Fox 5, or just be given a new callout altogether
@@ArmorCast Now that's just straight up weird. Why on earth would they wait until ARH missile existed to come up with brevity for it, and then just... stop using that brevity? tf, NATO.
Oddly enough, this cleared up a scene in The Incredibles.
Thanks!
This video was a class a recess and homework all within 19 minutes
14:21 Getting locked by a sam is bad enough but as for those with me sitting in the rear seats of a Hind, it was unervingly terrifying especialy considering its a Helicopter with little room or options to evade and brake lock. Sudenly heard our pilot shouting and swearing while throwing the Hind into a hard bank, I rember hearing "Target as locked" while getting thrown around. we were Locked multiple times by an un-identified SAM launcher in afganistan, to this day It is unknown who exactly has locked us.
Fast movers inbound, BRAA: 210, for thirteen at angels 10, flanking
Jets detected. Bearing 210, range 13 at altitude 10000 feet, flanking
You are cleared hot, over
You are authorized to engage the target
Roger, tally two bantids. Flanking right at ten miles
Roger, visual contact with two not-engaged enemy aircraft. Flanking right at ten miles
Fox 1! Fox 1!
SARH missile launch code. We should repeat the code twice.
Yay I translated it
Nice job! Only thing is - that range is "210 FOR thirteen", not FOUR thirteen.
As in, 13 miles, not 413 miles! It certainly wouldn't be "tally" at that range!
@@ArmorCast oopsie, I saw that thing wrong. Thanks for the correction!
@@TheMemeDynamics Also, not fast moving target but jets. As was said, "fast movers" does not refer to the speed at all.
Excellent video.
I learned something, I wasn’t familiar with bullseye. I was just watching for fun but wasn’t expecting to hear something new but I did.
Thanks