Slovenia's Specialized Bullpup: the F2000S

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    When the Slovenian Army decided to adopt a new infantry rifle in the mid-2000s, the Arex Defense company decided to submit the F-2000 into the trials. The H&K G36 was widely expected to be the winner, but Arex had already been involved in making F2000 parts as a subcontractor for FN, and wanted a chance at a domestic-production rifle for Slovenia.
    The one major hurdle was that the Army tender required the rifle to have a carry handle, which the F2000 does not. At the request of Arex, FN agreed to design a version of the rifle with such a feature, but balked at the extremely tight time frame required. So instead, Arex made their own new upper receiver for the F2000, with an elevated picatinny optics rail and a carry handle beneath. This was entered into the rifle trials and ended up winning. A contract for 6500 of the guns was issued, and they were delivered in 2006-2007. The final design was designated the F2000S by FN (not to be confused with the civilian-sale semiautomatic FS2000).
    Thanks to Arex Defense for giving me access to this rifle to film, and thanks to Polenar Tactical for hosting me in Slovenia!
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Комментарии • 885

  • @PokemonHaloFan
    @PokemonHaloFan Год назад +1425

    Back in the early 2000s this gun was in just about every videogame. Splinter Cell being the the one that comes to mind.

    • @MRFLAPPYTREE
      @MRFLAPPYTREE Год назад +67

      Do they make a sticky shocker attachment?

    • @juniorthomazini
      @juniorthomazini Год назад +10

      In Ghost Recon they were the standart

    • @Juozapas001
      @Juozapas001 Год назад +12

      ​@@MRFLAPPYTREE no, it was shot from GL1 grenade launcher

    • @Juozapas001
      @Juozapas001 Год назад +21

      They took it to fill most roles, OG model was basically standard F2000 (GL1 & 1.6x optic, with a suppressor) which worked like a marksman rifle (in-game had 2-6x zoom) then GL1 had wide array of stuff to deploy (non-lethal though)
      Later they redone the model to have like actual integrated suppressor (modeled after mk23 one i believe) and collapsible stock (i know from design perspective would've not worked because of the removed buttstock, so bolt would have nowhere to move) on top of making it "modular" as in making 4 configs of it besides GL1 2 stood out, "sniper" & "shotgun", the former added that 1.6x (1.5-3.5x now) replacing C-more red dot & adding bit over the suppressor, the latter horizontal grip with a SPAS-12 looking masterkey

    • @yeoremuthare677
      @yeoremuthare677 Год назад +4

      @@Juozapas001 Very informative, thank you!

  • @AshleyPomeroy
    @AshleyPomeroy Год назад +1313

    There was a period in the 2000s when games set in the near future had this and the XM8 as the standard NATO weapons, viz Stalker and ArmA 2 and so on. It's like there's a parallel future that never happened. And this is another video where Ian casually produces an extremely rare gun from just off camera.

    • @pjf674
      @pjf674 Год назад +51

      Was the gun in Splinter Cell based on this too? I'm guessing the sticky camera launcher was a bit of creative license.

    • @mathewogram
      @mathewogram Год назад +17

      Yes it was

    • @joes9732
      @joes9732 Год назад +47

      OG modern warfare 2 had the F2000. Modern warfare 3 had a weird south American rifle that had a canted magazine, called the FAD. I don't think it ever entered production as a service weapon.

    • @yewtewbstew547
      @yewtewbstew547 Год назад +41

      @@pjf674 Yep. It's called the SC-20K in that game, but it is actually referred to directly as the F2000 in one voice line during the CIA HQ mission. So they probably did originally plan to call it by its real name, but changed it later for whatever reason.

    • @N0sf3r4tuR1s3n
      @N0sf3r4tuR1s3n Год назад +18

      Yeah, then the militaries of the world decided that they're obsessed with AR-15 and AK variants, so bullpups are still not common issue. Though I guess the AUG has seen adoption by various countries, I think that Israel might still have the Tavor in its inventory.

  • @PsihoKekec
    @PsihoKekec Год назад +250

    The main reason for the carry handle requirement was because the army was not allowed to just write G36 in tender. But then they were informed by H&K that optics from german version are not part of the export version and suddenly they were willing to give other contenders a chance.

    • @Juozapas001
      @Juozapas001 Год назад +6

      They wanted integrated optics?

    • @5t3v0esque
      @5t3v0esque Год назад +40

      ​@Juozapas001 I'd say most of the shortcomings of the G36s integrated optics system are in hindsight. In the 90s/2000s before picatinny was widely known it seemed like a great concept, though it pales in comparison to what we have now.

    • @sinisatrlin840
      @sinisatrlin840 Год назад +35

      In the end Slovenian military ended up with excellent primary weapon and local company and local people got their share of work and benefit. Nije svako zlo za zlo

    • @PsihoKekec
      @PsihoKekec Год назад +4

      @@Juozapas001 It was a really popular concept back then.

    • @Juozapas001
      @Juozapas001 Год назад +1

      @@PsihoKekec among procurement circles perhaps :D

  • @theladyfingers___
    @theladyfingers___ Год назад +595

    It really looks like a prop from a '90s sci-fi movie. The furniture just stuck on to hide the real gun underneath.

    • @VincitOmniaVeritas7
      @VincitOmniaVeritas7 Год назад +37

      Very true. Reminds me of the M41A space marine rifle from Aliens: I would never have guessed there’s a Thompson SMG below all that polymer.

    • @rollertoaster812
      @rollertoaster812 Год назад +16

      I've always thought so. A very cool gun, and one of the few truly ambidextrous bullpups. Which is a big deal to me, being a lefty like Ian!

    • @oktayyildirim2911
      @oktayyildirim2911 Год назад +16

      I really appreciate you putting the apostrophe in the right place in "'90s".

    • @Player-lu5lw
      @Player-lu5lw Год назад +5

      With the acoustics from the range, it even sounds like a laser gun!

    • @Pavia1525
      @Pavia1525 Год назад +7

      Starship Troopers. Service guarantees Citizenship!
      Would you like to know more?

  • @amberanubis8336
    @amberanubis8336 Год назад +166

    I used it when i was in Slovenian army. Its very accurate and comfortable to shoot. Negatives are mostly certain plastic parts which can break and it can be quite prone to stoppages when you are geting used to it. Still i enjoyed it and i think it doesnt deserve all the hate that it gets

    • @czwarty7878
      @czwarty7878 Год назад +4

      Do you remember what kinds of stoppages it had? And for "when you are getting used to it" so it's depending on handling maybe, like pistols?

    • @blahorgaslisk7763
      @blahorgaslisk7763 Год назад +16

      A lot of the time it's the look that makes people hate on it. Melted plastic toy and tactical tuna are things I've heard it called.
      Personally I don't really care what a gun looks like as long as it serves a purpose. In this case what I see is a gun that seems to have very little in the way of details that could snag on camouflage net and the like. This is something I would definitely have appreciated back when I did my military service.
      Other than that I can't really say anything about it as I have never held the gun.

    • @czwarty7878
      @czwarty7878 Год назад +7

      @@blahorgaslisk7763 yeah basically it's the "mattel argument" like with M16 all over again, or the Glock, same old song

    • @RedSntDK
      @RedSntDK Год назад +3

      That was my thought when I looked at it, the crevices you need to get into to remove mud is by far the thing you remember the most after a stint in the army, or at least it was for me.

    • @awfultruth6216
      @awfultruth6216 Год назад +2

      You named only couple problems it has. I trained with the M70 and tried for some time the F2000 (Civilian version) and I would pick an upgraded M70 anytime over the F2000. I consider the F2000 as an overly complicated, full-of-weak-points-and-liabilities rifle. IMO, we would have done much better by just upgrading the M70. Switching to the 5.56, increasing the sight radius (And upgrading the sighs and adding a picatinny rail),

  • @alesk2607
    @alesk2607 Год назад +322

    As a slovenian i didnt even know we have this type of industry in our country. love the work that you do.

    • @JohnADoe-pg1qk
      @JohnADoe-pg1qk Год назад +22

      It's just not a company you see advertised at a bus stop or on TV. 😁

    • @gvs6462
      @gvs6462 Год назад +7

      Slovenia does not exist. You mean Russia.

    • @DirkusTurkess
      @DirkusTurkess Год назад +23

      @@gvs6462 I think you mean North East Italy.

    • @g54b95
      @g54b95 Год назад +16

      I'm part Slovenian. This part of the world and our people make excellent guns.

    • @zanpajntar1
      @zanpajntar1 Год назад +3

      Same

  • @vettepilot427
    @vettepilot427 Год назад +428

    I have a civilian FS2000. It’s really an underrated rifle. It has always been reliable, accurate, and comfortable to shoot. The brass ejection is convenient, especially when you’re at a range. I can’t speak to how the rifle performs in combat conditions, but it’s been a fun rifle to own and shoot.

    • @norikotakaya14292
      @norikotakaya14292 Год назад +104

      Don't ever sell it. They're collector's items now. FNH stopped producing them for the civilian market some time ago. Buying a used one now can fetch a pretty price.

    • @tonyrandall3146
      @tonyrandall3146 Год назад +13

      What does a civvie need an FS2000 for?

    • @KingdomOfDimensions
      @KingdomOfDimensions Год назад +231

      ​@@tonyrandall3146 The security of a free state.

    • @Juozapas001
      @Juozapas001 Год назад +33

      We'll see what ukrainians have to say about them, some made their way in i heard

    • @maxbreadman6790
      @maxbreadman6790 Год назад +50

      @@KingdomOfDimensions cringe

  • @zXPeterz14
    @zXPeterz14 Год назад +243

    Its crazy how much the aesthetics of the gun are improved (imo) with just a small adjustment to the height of the rail

    • @oktayyildirim2911
      @oktayyildirim2911 Год назад +15

      I agree! Such a minute change, but it looks so much nicer.

    • @czwarty7878
      @czwarty7878 Год назад +8

      True, and it's both useful, ergonomic and looks great. I'm truly surprised FN didn't decide to simply include it in their own model, it's just such an obvious thing to do

    • @RyTrapp0
      @RyTrapp0 Год назад +3

      Yup, unexpected improvement!

  • @UH1Phil
    @UH1Phil Год назад +81

    The F2000s slow puking of spent brass will never get old. Also, too bad we didn't get to see Ian try the carry handle, to see it it's as good as the Famas :D

    • @czwarty7878
      @czwarty7878 Год назад +3

      Yeah it's somewhat shallow and I was wondering if it maybe becomes uncomfortable with this kind of optics mounted above? Seeing it actually handled would make it clearer

    • @shooteveryday1841
      @shooteveryday1841 Год назад +2

      As the owner of a PS 90 and anAUG- I don’t see why the thumb hole in the stock was not appropriate as a carry handle. They work just fine for me.

  • @pureevilclutch
    @pureevilclutch Год назад +28

    Just as a fun little detail about Slovenian adoption of F2000, the case ejector port and charging handle were replaced with more durable materials beacuse they were breaking in cold temperatures.

  • @SonicXRox
    @SonicXRox Год назад +21

    Had the pleasure of using the F2000s in basic. It handles well and is comfortable to carry on long hikes. I loved it!

  • @norikotakaya14292
    @norikotakaya14292 Год назад +74

    I own the civilian version of the F2000 and really enjoy it very much. Very accurate rifle, even with the iron sights and I always draw a crowd when I go to the range. Everyone wants to see the "space gun" as they call it. I've had offers from people to buy it from me because FNH no longer produces it for the civilian market, but I'm not parting with it.

  • @AllAboutSurvival
    @AllAboutSurvival Год назад +143

    it’s impressive to see how Arex Defense adapted the F2000 to meet the specific requirements of the Slovenian Army. Great content as always Ian and team!

  • @alasiadarthe001actual9
    @alasiadarthe001actual9 Год назад +190

    It even makes laser sounds at the range. Honestly I looks like a laser gun.

    • @AshleyPomeroy
      @AshleyPomeroy Год назад +18

      Spang! It sounds like the seismic charge from Attack of the Clones.

    • @mathewogram
      @mathewogram Год назад +31

      That's the sound of the bang reverberating off the walls and interacting with the mic.

    • @Kataquan
      @Kataquan Год назад +19

      If you slammed a door really loudly it would probably make the same noise at that range lmao

    • @Azukaae
      @Azukaae Год назад +2

      The same sound effect also exist in AKB-15 video

    • @JaenEngineering
      @JaenEngineering Год назад +7

      Guys, I don't think anyone actually thinks that's how the report of the gun sounds and are aware that's it's due to reverberation in the room. Still sounds sci-fi as hell though.

  • @beanhavok2287
    @beanhavok2287 Год назад +25

    Got a chance to hold one of these back in the 2010s, despite it's look it fits amazingly well in the hand.

    • @ostiariusalpha
      @ostiariusalpha Год назад +7

      The fat butt pad also distributes recoil rather nicely.

  • @Larcona_
    @Larcona_ Год назад +8

    Hey Ian, I've missed some videos being in BMT, but I'm excited to start catching up. Wanted to show some support and say thanks for all the content over the years.

  • @TooDeepForSleep
    @TooDeepForSleep Год назад +12

    OMG my country again! Thanks Ian :)

  • @cB-sr9kd
    @cB-sr9kd Год назад +17

    Fully-grown P90.

  • @zoltankorossy2957
    @zoltankorossy2957 Год назад +9

    The Tactical Tuna, now with more tactical!

    • @WALTERBROADDUS
      @WALTERBROADDUS Год назад +2

      😂🐟 it does sort of remind you of a gun / tuna fish.

    • @ostiariusalpha
      @ostiariusalpha Год назад +2

      Yes, we that own some version of this rifle do love our mildly insulting nicknames for it. The factory BUIS section are the ratface sights, because that's the kind of head shape required to use them comfortably. The chamber observation port is called the toilet lid. And so on.

  • @TheLoraxshadenough
    @TheLoraxshadenough Год назад +68

    Always loved the f2000, but the raised rail honestly makes it look even better.

  • @WardenWolf
    @WardenWolf Год назад +6

    That looks like a super nice rifle, and one of the few bullpups that is lefty-friendly without replacing parts.

  • @thegael1996
    @thegael1996 Год назад +32

    I've been obsessed with the Slovenian F2000 for years as i think it's one of the coolest looking guns ever adopted. The pictures I see of the Slovenian army using it just looks so badass and sci-fi.

    • @czwarty7878
      @czwarty7878 Год назад +3

      Same. It's just such an interesting gun, looks so futuristic yet is quite simple inside, and the fact that it's looks is not just for show but is purposefuly design that way for ergonomics and sealing from outside elements, providing a comfortable and reliable gun. I really think this design has a lot to offer that simply couldn't break through in it's time, and will make a comeback some time in the future in perfected form

    • @sjoormen1
      @sjoormen1 Год назад +1

      yes a lot of things here are fiction...

  • @DVGTS1
    @DVGTS1 Год назад +39

    As a Belgian, I actually prefer this upper on the F2000. Not only does it look better, it's actually more comfortable to aim with, and the carry handle is an added bonus. I wish that upper was available as a parts kit for the FS2000.

    • @davidcox3076
      @davidcox3076 Год назад +2

      That would have been a good idea. FN couldn't make the handle in time for the Slovenian project. But why not go ahead and make the new upper and sell a kit later? You would think between the military and civilian users there would be a market for one.

  • @Taistelukalkkuna
    @Taistelukalkkuna Год назад +8

    "I am not like other F2000´s."
    - Slovenian F2000 -

  • @jcarter855
    @jcarter855 Год назад +12

    Tactical Tuna!! Its actually pretty solid.

  • @VincitOmniaVeritas7
    @VincitOmniaVeritas7 Год назад +31

    I had the chance to shoot a full auto F2000 last December. Cool factor aside, couldn’t go through a full mag without stoppages. And I’ve used staplers with better triggers.

    • @ostiariusalpha
      @ostiariusalpha Год назад +15

      The F2000 is an extremely magazine sensitive rifle, the feed lips have to be in perfect condition. Unfortunately, it is only designed to accept aluminum mags, which are notorious for developing feed lip issues. I had to go through a couple dozen aluminum mags just to find a few that my own FS2000 would not have malfunctions with. And yes, the trigger feels like a Nintendo Zapper light gun.

    • @Lexicon_
      @Lexicon_ Год назад +8

      My experience is that the trigger is weird, but actually not that bad once you get a feel for it. The trigger pull is just long, but you can feel the break point easily enough for more precise shooting where required.

    • @norikotakaya14292
      @norikotakaya14292 Год назад +14

      ​@@ostiariusalpha It's not just a feed lip issue with the aluminum mags. There were also problems with the followers tilting. Even the updated anti-tilt followers in GI issue aluminum mags sucked. When Magpul released their anti-tilt followers I put them in all of my aluminum mags and never had another feed issue with my FS2000.

    • @ostiariusalpha
      @ostiariusalpha Год назад +2

      @@norikotakaya14292 Yep, black follower is an automatic no-go.

  • @zzyzx0069
    @zzyzx0069 Год назад +8

    Why would they need 2yrs to redesign? Were there any shortcomings for have a raised sight and optic outside of larger distance between barrel and line of site?
    If you hadn't told us it was put together in a matter of weeks I'd have sworn this was an optional configuration. Looks elegant and retains perfect functionality.

    • @WALTERBROADDUS
      @WALTERBROADDUS Год назад

      You're thinking outside the box.📦 😏

    • @aaronfarnsworth7653
      @aaronfarnsworth7653 Год назад +5

      Probably an excuse to justify charging a bunch of extra time and materials R&D costs. Or they hoped that the long timetable and Slovenian impatience would combine to just make them accept what FN already produce.

    • @kmech3rd
      @kmech3rd Год назад +4

      Big companies are inflexible, and it takes 3 forevers to get through the process. I'll bet the redesign involved one engineer, one machinist, and one draftsman, all with the desire to Get It Done.

  • @STRAKAZulu
    @STRAKAZulu Год назад +9

    Neat little variant of the Tactical Tuna!

  • @j4pp1n3
    @j4pp1n3 Год назад +1

    5:49 Ian treating the gun like an extention of his 3rd arm. Sign of a true pro.

  • @mdlassel
    @mdlassel Год назад +2

    the bullpul + carry handle combo looks awesome.

  • @velvetine74
    @velvetine74 Год назад +19

    I never understood why this bullpup wasn't more widely adopted, I guess it just sort of popped up at the same time as a lot of other bullpups and they all had to compete with each other globally. Always loved the unique front ejection!

    • @tbhbrievodarchive5857
      @tbhbrievodarchive5857 Год назад +7

      The trigger is better at AR platforms - since on this bulpup the trigger assembly is long way from firing pin it has that mushy trigger that bulpups were often associated with. This is something that can be solved - I think tavor has nice trigger. Second is the challenging way to clear malfunctions. In Ar style platfomr you can reach your trigger in a action or rock
      a bolt really violently to help clear stoppage. But with bulpup you don't have that luxury due to enclosed nature of the firing action assembly.
      But this beauties truly shine in Urban environment aka CQB. I wish FN would have will and innovation to improve this rifle.

    • @awfultruth6216
      @awfultruth6216 Год назад

      Because it sucks!

    • @vLaD3r5
      @vLaD3r5 Год назад

      @@awfultruth6216 look at the comment above yours and then back at your own and you will see projecting your inadequacies on the gun just shows everyone how intelligent you are. Given a grade out of 10 your brain gets a -7 and a see me after class note. do better or shut up

    • @Ukraineaissance2014
      @Ukraineaissance2014 Год назад

      ​​@@tbhbrievodarchive5857ts conversions to bullpups which have a bad trigger due to the distance. Standard bullpups designed to be bullpups dont have that issue.

  • @viceconsulimhotepienenobed1573
    @viceconsulimhotepienenobed1573 Год назад +22

    This redesign is very clever and simple. Really smart guys.

  • @nosnhoj99
    @nosnhoj99 Год назад +5

    My old friend called this the boat gun from call of duty

  • @MD-gb2nf
    @MD-gb2nf Год назад +5

    In middle and eastern europe, saying that something is impossible is an personal offence

  • @Bacteriophagebs
    @Bacteriophagebs Год назад +6

    I never realized how thick the F2000 was. It looks like you could take the shell off and there'd still be a complete gun inside. No wonder they wanted a carry handle!

    • @Chilicharger665
      @Chilicharger665 Год назад

      It is a polymer shell over all the working guts.

    • @Bacteriophagebs
      @Bacteriophagebs Год назад

      @@Chilicharger665 And would all those guts still work if you took the shell off? No, they would not.

    • @astra6485
      @astra6485 Год назад

      In my opinion the f2000 is both the ugliest and most beautiful I have seen

    • @Chilicharger665
      @Chilicharger665 Год назад

      @@Bacteriophagebs what does that have to do with anything?

    • @Bacteriophagebs
      @Bacteriophagebs Год назад

      @@Chilicharger665 It's not a complete gun if it won't work. I said that it looks like you could take the shell off and there'd be a complete gun inside.

  • @1113jackchen
    @1113jackchen Год назад +6

    Knowing the provenance behind this special variant just made the AX serial number look sooo much cooler lol
    Really hoping that one day gun companies can realize just by putting an X in the name doesn't necessarily make the gun look more appealing...

  • @calvinator555
    @calvinator555 Год назад +16

    Sam Fisher's rifle from Splinter Cell.

    • @hornmonk3zit
      @hornmonk3zit Год назад +3

      The SC-20K which was integrally suppressed and had a silenced underbarrel multipurpose launcher. Tom Clancy ate, drank, breathed, slept, and nutted tactically.

    • @johnstarke5981
      @johnstarke5981 2 месяца назад

      ​@@hornmonk3zitvery well put lol.

  • @mikhailgregovszki7478
    @mikhailgregovszki7478 Год назад +3

    I always thought these were underrated... I think really the only big thing missing was last round bolt hold, which probably didn't help it in competition. I've fired two of these owned by others at ranges and they feel perfect in my hands, very comfortable and natural. My favorite thing was the fire selector, which I know some people didn't like.

  • @thisguy41487
    @thisguy41487 Год назад +7

    I had no idea this variant even existed. Great stuff!

  • @daleford8621
    @daleford8621 Год назад +1

    I had the pleasure of renting a f2000 at one of the local ranges, it's a very comfortable and accurate rifle. As a left handed shooter I really appreciate the ambidextrous controls and forward ejection system on it. I wish this rifle had caught on more so they weren't so expensive.

  • @Viper2132
    @Viper2132 Год назад +14

    I love that carry handle! They should see about importing that into the US

  • @Gunbudder
    @Gunbudder Год назад +20

    its a lefty bullpup so how can you not love it?! my local gun shop still has one of these on the wall and its been there for probably 15 years now lol. it is such a cool gun

    • @Lexicon_
      @Lexicon_ Год назад +1

      Where? If it's new, I'd buy a second one.

  • @AppliedGats
    @AppliedGats Год назад +3

    Everything Ian says about arex makes them look cooler. What a baller move to 1up fn herstal in 6 weeks.

  • @JoshuaNicoll
    @JoshuaNicoll Год назад +33

    I think the Solvenian one is a bit better, the location of the optic looks more comfortable.

    • @Filo127
      @Filo127 Год назад +4

      Guess the Solved that problem

    • @ostiariusalpha
      @ostiariusalpha Год назад +1

      Indeed, the standard F2000 optic rail height seems more intended for soldier with rat-shaped faces. On my own FS2000, crushing my square Swedish face down to look through the factory sights is not easy.

  • @kudosensei
    @kudosensei Год назад

    So that's what living inside of a bouncy ball would sound like, an acoustic masterpiece.

  • @michaelhill6451
    @michaelhill6451 Год назад +2

    The F2000...When someone decided to turn a fish into a gun.

  • @manganvbg90
    @manganvbg90 Год назад +2

    FN says redesign takes two years. Chad eastern european cnc worker: ill have it ready this afternoon if you buy me Vodka 😅

    • @andrazlogar861
      @andrazlogar861 Год назад +1

      Here in slovenia 🇸🇮, vodka is really not a thing.

    • @mbrackeva
      @mbrackeva Год назад +1

      @@andrazlogar861 He's probably American... and has no idea that Slovenia borders Austria and Italy...

    • @manganvbg90
      @manganvbg90 Год назад

      @@andrazlogar861 beer then:p. closest ive been to slovenia is Slovakia, and vodka was very present there 😛

    • @manganvbg90
      @manganvbg90 Год назад +1

      @@mbrackeva how ignorant of you to assume im american, im Swedish…. But Poland borders germany and Czechia, beer nations. And vodka is strong presence there

  • @paleoph6168
    @paleoph6168 Год назад +3

    First the SAR-80 and then the F2000S. Cool that Slovenia uses exotic designs!

  • @NaysayKen
    @NaysayKen Год назад +9

    Sam Fishers signature rifle from Splinter Cell, always wondered what the real version was like from playing those games also didn’t realise that it’s from Slovenia either great vid as always.

    • @Shrikinator
      @Shrikinator Год назад +8

      It's not. It's based on the FN F2000 by FN Herstal. FN Herstal is Belgian, with Herstal being the name of a city close to Liège. They've been in business since 1889.

    • @NaysayKen
      @NaysayKen Год назад

      @@Shrikinator so it is, very similar though.

  • @jameslockard929
    @jameslockard929 Год назад +2

    I remember watching a CSI EPISODE which was a part of a 3 episode story arc. It involved bull pups stolen from a testing armory and a 5 man execution squad of mercenaries. The 2000 model your presenting resembles the wepon in the episode. Most TV viewers has never seen such a powerful compact design. Thanks for your channel I've seen small caliber bull pups and even 50 cal. Bull pups.😮😮 6:12

  • @MrBandholm
    @MrBandholm Год назад +21

    Looks a lot like one of the guns from Starship Troopers!

  • @jcat96
    @jcat96 Год назад +1

    There was an FS2000 in my local gun shop for $2100 probably 10 years ago when i was a teen. Looked and felt like it could handle amazingly

  • @TheSnivilous
    @TheSnivilous Год назад

    I love the approach of "fine I'll do it myself"

  • @cryptkeeper
    @cryptkeeper Год назад +4

    Range gun shots sound like they were ripped from the original Half Life lol

  • @shred1894
    @shred1894 Год назад +21

    ngl I kinda hope bullpups start getting popular again so we can actually see some of these platforms live long enough to mature and become viable alternatives to standard layout rifles.

    • @alcedob.5850
      @alcedob.5850 Год назад +7

      As far I am aware, the Croation VHS-2 and the Israeli TAR-21 were successful enough to be still used. Maybe we will see some development on them later

    • @RichardEnglander
      @RichardEnglander Год назад +2

      I like them, but it is often the trigger feel that lets them down

    • @dagnaldblumbf1882
      @dagnaldblumbf1882 Год назад +3

      So true, Moon Man.

    • @alcedob.5850
      @alcedob.5850 Год назад

      @@RichardEnglander maybe an electronic trigger could fix that but it makes it unlikely for a military use

    • @hornmonk3zit
      @hornmonk3zit Год назад +1

      @@alcedob.5850 It also likely makes it illegal in the US commercial market.

  • @neilcook4686
    @neilcook4686 Год назад +7

    Is it just me, or is anyone else checking the background for Mr Polenar Tactical peeping out from behind one of the pillars?

    • @snajperSLO
      @snajperSLO Год назад +2

      Nah... it's just you! I was looking around for Manca.

    • @joshwagner4368
      @joshwagner4368 Год назад +1

      It wasn't just you. Instead he was sneakily standing in the background at the range.

    • @therogers4432
      @therogers4432 Год назад

      I was about to comment "WTF? -No Background Ziga? 😔" when I saw your comment...
      Great minds think alike, or fools never differ...?
      Also, I'd like to see a Background Manca appear in one of Ian's videos too... 😊😍😘

  • @kadewiedeman3127
    @kadewiedeman3127 Год назад

    something about the reverb of an indoor range just makes my brain release the happy chemicals.

  • @Ironclockwork
    @Ironclockwork Год назад +1

    *FN tells Arex that it isn't possible to redesign the F2000 to have a carry handle in four weeks*
    Arex: "FINE. I'LL DO IT MYSELF."

  • @TheCaptainbigboy
    @TheCaptainbigboy Год назад

    I love how Ian smiles pretty much time he shoots a gun. As he has a fairly staid demeanor, but he’s never “too cool” doing something most of us never will- firing a full auto weapon.

  • @nomad_boreal
    @nomad_boreal Год назад

    I love the acoustics in that firing range. Could get some awesome drum sounds from its use.

  • @boomdelted
    @boomdelted Год назад

    that last casing just dropping out casually xD

  • @chrisspencer6502
    @chrisspencer6502 Год назад

    How convenient I was watching an old q&a last night about bill pups

  • @jamesrasmussen1186
    @jamesrasmussen1186 Год назад +8

    Saw these when I was over in Croatia and Slovenia for a training exercise. Didn't realize at the time that theirs was modified from the base model.

  • @blazjurkovic4056
    @blazjurkovic4056 Год назад +2

    Arex deserves more recognition.

  • @CurtHowland
    @CurtHowland Год назад

    I went and found the 10 year old video about the F2000, oh, how video production has improved!

  • @Joshua_N-A
    @Joshua_N-A Год назад +1

    The standard issue rifle when you wanna give the Covenant their bomb back.
    *Blow Me Away starts to play*

  • @jonathonspears7736
    @jonathonspears7736 Год назад +17

    My experience with the F2000 is that while exceptionally ergonomic, i find it difficult to use in the prone position. The higher pic rail on this model does seem to be an improvement if i an being honest though.

  • @lucion511
    @lucion511 Год назад +11

    I wish FN would've kept the FS2000 in their product line. Should've picked one up when they were still available

    • @mathewogram
      @mathewogram Год назад +4

      I own one. Has to be one of my best rifles. The only issue is that when it jams (an extremely rare occurance) it is such a pain in the ass to clear. You have to field strip the whole thing and sometimes the jam will even prevent that

    • @EddieBlueHalen
      @EddieBlueHalen Год назад +1

      I have the FS2000 tactical (pic rail) model. I wisely bought multiple spare parts when they were available. I also added the aluminum tri-rail fore-end. The trigger is serviceable for anyone with experience. A true forgotten weapon.

    • @Lexicon_
      @Lexicon_ Год назад

      @@mathewogram Shoot, I've never had a jam that bad. Worst I've encountered was just having to pull the mag, run the charging handle, then reinsert mag and re-charge to clear.

    • @mathewogram
      @mathewogram Год назад

      @The Mighty Voice I think it was because the rounds I was putting through it, tbh. Was using some hot green tips, and I think it wasn't cycling well, so a brass got wedged between the action and the side of the gun. Took a bit of elbow grease but was able to clear it eventually. No problems since. I just use those green tips in my ar and hk53 now.

  • @crazyfvck
    @crazyfvck Год назад +2

    :) FN makes some neat stuff. I have a PS90 and an M249S, but I have never had the chance to fire an FS2000. That being said, I do have a Keltec RFB, which has a very similar forward eject systems for the spent cases. Other than that, it's a completely different setup, being chambered in 308, and based on the FAL internally.

  • @skipjack1952
    @skipjack1952 Год назад +12

    It looks simple, honest and a thoroughly thought out fire arm. I’m sure the people in the civilian army are happy to have it and thanks for a good job Berean you did another fantastic video.

    • @Rehteal
      @Rehteal Год назад +4

      I think the lack of ambi-controls was a substantial "oversight" for a bullpup, but you know, designs are based on what's needed/ requested at the time.

    • @xavierh.5102
      @xavierh.5102 Год назад +1

      ​@@Rehtealthe f2000 is ambidextrous, the only inconvenience for lefties is maybe the charging handle position.

    • @Rehteal
      @Rehteal Год назад

      @@xavierh.5102 I'm referring to the more modular version of ambidextrous controls, in that you can basically reverse the internals to make the gun a mirror image. The kind where it has either an ejection port on the bottom, or can have it toggled left or right.

    • @MrBelegus
      @MrBelegus Год назад

      As an operator on this weapon, I would not describe it as simple, at least not internally. It had a lot going on inside, some of it quite complicated, specially the ejection mechanism

  • @patrikhjorth3291
    @patrikhjorth3291 Год назад +2

    "It feels just like shooting a standard F2000, but with a slightly higher optics riser."
    I have to say, that was not entirely unexpected.

  • @bulskoo5441
    @bulskoo5441 Год назад +1

    looks like a good day of fishing

  • @ChuckMcGill_69
    @ChuckMcGill_69 11 месяцев назад

    I remember seeing the f200 for 1100 back in 2010. I wish I was old enough to bout one because the piece now is soooo insaaane. I’m still hooding to get one but I’m glad to see the f2000 is in a vid

  • @MexicoAdventurer
    @MexicoAdventurer Год назад +2

    I am not Slovenian, but I drank some Hella Slovenian wine 30 years ago.

  • @ericmitchell985
    @ericmitchell985 Год назад +5

    Honestly, I think the Slovenian version looks better, and also looks more comfortable.

    • @EddieBlueHalen
      @EddieBlueHalen Год назад +2

      I use LMT sights on my pic rail FS2000 to get a degree sight over bore distance.

  • @chipsdubbo5.56
    @chipsdubbo5.56 Год назад +1

    That's pretty neat that they took it into their own hands to modify

  • @NullElemental
    @NullElemental Год назад +1

    the smile at the end says it all, its a nice gun

  • @TactWendigo
    @TactWendigo 9 месяцев назад

    I still adore this rifle.

  • @innerlight7018
    @innerlight7018 Год назад

    Well made improvement. Makes sense.

  • @csorgatz
    @csorgatz Год назад

    Hi Ian, I was over in Slovenia 2 weeks ago and shot an IPSC math in in Ljubljana!!! Wish I cold have met up with you! :)

  • @xanafein8453
    @xanafein8453 Год назад

    As an owner of an fs2000, you have no idea how badly I want that top rail.

  • @shovelchop81bikeralex52
    @shovelchop81bikeralex52 Год назад +9

    I have a replica FN2000, beautifully balanced rifle to shoulder and great for us lefties too! So they required a carry handle...why? And then after all that fuss to create a clever solution for them, they then add an officially adopted optic that seems to have an eye relief which requires it to be mounted right where the carry handle is, making the handle useless..this makes sense how exactly? Lol. Still love this bullpup and its cartridge ejection system though.

    • @boocomban
      @boocomban Год назад +1

      Because the shape of the rifle is prevent from carrry it by 1 hand when you not hold the pistol grip.hence, the carry handle help to carry the rifle so you dont have to hold the pistol grip all of time.
      Also it help in prone position, which bring the rifle more to the eyes level.
      Another reason is reduce the hot gas dissort the view. The original rifle have very low profile between the sight and the muzzle. Raise it up couple inches, help to reduce the disortion from the hot gas at the front of the muzzle, give it more clear view when you use iron sight.

    • @shovelchop81bikeralex52
      @shovelchop81bikeralex52 Год назад

      @@boocomban fair enough but aren't slings designed for exactly that purpose? It uses the same one point sling set up as the P90, its little brother.

    • @ayebraine
      @ayebraine Год назад

      Another commenter said that the carry handle in the army requirements were a part of laser-focusing the requirement to fit G36. Like if you want a specific product or company to win a bid, you describe the existing product / company very specifically, so that even if some other offer suddenly appears, it couldn't fit the requirements. But for one reason or another, the customer cooled off to the H&K's offer, and chose F2000 instead. And it wouldn't have been able to enter the bid unless it had this carry handle.

    • @shovelchop81bikeralex52
      @shovelchop81bikeralex52 Год назад

      @@ayebraine yeah but H&K specifically said that the rail on the G36 is not to be used as a carry handle since it's mostly polymer with a bit of steel sheet reinforcement. It's only to be used for lightweight optics and to protect the charging handle/cocking system, stop it getting snagged on kit, brush etc..

    • @boocomban
      @boocomban Год назад

      @@shovelchop81bikeralex52 the sling is also a problem on original F2000. Too close to the front sight so it block the front sight. Remember that F2000 designed to use it intergrated optic like AUg, tarvor as the rifle is a straight line from stock to muzzle.
      The carry handle solve this problem by raise the sight higher as well as moving the sling swivel further from the front sight.

  • @cobensalazar5492
    @cobensalazar5492 Год назад

    reallt cool to see one off rifles like this, and the story behind the carry handle was really cool.

  • @JoaoSoares-rs6ec
    @JoaoSoares-rs6ec Год назад

    literaly one of the best guns out there

  • @ecconomicus
    @ecconomicus Год назад

    Rumors says that there was one Slovenian soldier in summer of 2011 who used that carry handle to actually carry the gun.

  • @john050994
    @john050994 Год назад +10

    I think my favorite thing about the f2000 is that it has a bayonet lug that gives you a whopping 6 inches of extra reach on a gun that doesn't have a way to hold it like a spear. It's only slightly better than those pistol bayonets from shot show that one year.

    • @randomnobodovsky3692
      @randomnobodovsky3692 Год назад +5

      It's for the kind of crowd control when the crowd wants to kiss you.

    • @john050994
      @john050994 Год назад

      @@randomnobodovsky3692 lol

  • @tohthunder
    @tohthunder 3 месяца назад

    The problem with many bullpub design rifle is that the case ejection port is close to the user's eyes. When firing continuously, the excess gunpowder smoke irritated their eyes.
    This seems like a trivial matter. But it is very serious. When you are in the heat of battle.
    These things have happened to the Royal Thai Army that used to use the Tarvor as the new standard rifle and then retire the M16, but eventually the Army had to return to using the M16 as before.
    FN F2000 design is very clever. that makes the casing ejection port at the front of the gun.

  • @bigmock141
    @bigmock141 Год назад

    I can't believe that handle need two years to be integrated

  • @alexanderhikel2350
    @alexanderhikel2350 Год назад +9

    One time where the cool factor outsells the specs lol, and I love how FN was like no way and Slovenia just goes hold my beer mode

  • @TylerSnyder305
    @TylerSnyder305 Год назад +3

    Yet another more futuristic gun from the past 50 years that has far more prominence in video games than actual prominence in the real world.

  • @DarknessViper99
    @DarknessViper99 Год назад

    The OEM scope and underbarrel GL made this look even crazier than it already is.

  • @weeznaz8195
    @weeznaz8195 Год назад +1

    As an armchair bull pup enthusiast, the only thing I would want changed is that grip angle. I want something more neutral angled, such as the newer HK grips or the L85 grip angle.

  • @theeyesofryan
    @theeyesofryan Год назад +3

    The Tactical Tuna. At last.

  • @herrerajoey2
    @herrerajoey2 9 месяцев назад

    It brings me joy knowing I own a green FS2000

  • @vetbaitednv
    @vetbaitednv Год назад

    This gun objectively looks awesome

  • @thejerk4478
    @thejerk4478 Год назад +4

    I wish FN would bring back the F2000

  • @77gravity
    @77gravity Год назад

    That firing range seriously needs some sound-absorbing materials.

  • @Hydrazine1000
    @Hydrazine1000 Год назад

    Funny how, after those first introductory shots, my first thought is: Oh boy, that firing range needs to fix its acoustics! Get some obsorbtion panels up to cut down on the reverb/echo.

  • @bibblebob
    @bibblebob Год назад

    “It’ll take two years to build that”
    Bruh, it’s literally a riser on top of the rail

  • @skyecinnie
    @skyecinnie Год назад

    M9K Assault Rifles addon for GMod introduced me to this puppy