FAMAS G2: The French Navy Updates its Bullpup

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    The FAMAS rifle was originally adopted for use with 55 grain ammunition, with a 1:12 inch rifling twist rate and, of course, a proprietary 25-round magazine. This was the F1 pattern. Further development of the rifle with an eye toward international sale led to the G1 pattern, with a 1:9 inch twist suited to the Belgian SS109 62 grain projectile adopted by NATO, as well as the use of NATO-standard magazines (specifically FNC magazines). While the French Army was quite satisfied with its F1 rifles, the French Navy decided to modernize in the early 1990s.
    The commercial G1 rifle had been economized by removing many of the extra features like bipod legs and grenade launching hardware, and the Navy wanted those elements reinstated. GIAt did that, and the result was the FAMAS G2. A total of 10,000 were manufactured for the French Navy, and they are the last FAMAS rifles to be produced before the St Etienne production facility was shut down and GIAT left the small arms business entirely.
    Thanks to the French Ministry of the Interior for allowing me access to this very scarce rifle to show you!
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  • @benfurriel4519
    @benfurriel4519 4 года назад +1857

    It's great that government's are recognizing Ian's value as a firearms 'communicator'

    • @andrewince8824
      @andrewince8824 4 года назад +163

      Atop that, Ian is ensuring that history is preserved.

    • @origami26
      @origami26 4 года назад +160

      and for the FRENCH government to do this, let me tell you that it's exceptional. I suspect an inside job here ^^

    • @yetanother7690
      @yetanother7690 4 года назад +46

      @@origami26 Forgotten Weapons was an inside job!

    • @thomaskok5773
      @thomaskok5773 4 года назад +9

      amen to that

    • @provenancemachining
      @provenancemachining 4 года назад +64

      He has both an extensive research history as well as an engineering background. He actually use to do gunsmithing videos at one point, I wish he continued with them.

  • @AllAboutMiims
    @AllAboutMiims 4 года назад +995

    I have to admit, i'm impressed that the French ministry for the interior give Ian such access, respect to those who see the benefit.

    • @ThePopeOfAwesomeness
      @ThePopeOfAwesomeness 4 года назад +38

      Anything for Jesus

    • @p7j5
      @p7j5 4 года назад +151

      They're still looking for a way to get him out of the room without resorting to lethal force tho

    • @adrien9075
      @adrien9075 4 года назад +28

      I am impressed they invited a dumb fitness youtuber you want to slap everytime he opens his mouth before Ian.... If there is someone to invite, it s Ian, for general knowledge and expertise. I think there is no better (cool dude, expert, passionnate and invested on what he does).

    • @JenniferinIllinois
      @JenniferinIllinois 4 года назад +21

      How do we know he was actually given access or he just snuck in one night after everybody went home? Hehehe.

    • @antoineandre2178
      @antoineandre2178 4 года назад +5

      @@p7j5 haha tibo in shape

  • @ech0828
    @ech0828 4 года назад +2164

    Ian: I know this may be nitpicky Everyone: Sir we are here for the nitpickys

    • @AmronFortis
      @AmronFortis 4 года назад +53

      Que Obi-wan: "That's why I'm here."

    • @classicbandgeek
      @classicbandgeek 4 года назад +17

      @@AmronFortis *Cue

    • @Taistelukalkkuna
      @Taistelukalkkuna 4 года назад +15

      @@classicbandgeek Que?

    • @chefcow
      @chefcow 4 года назад +6

      @@AmronFortis quote?

    • @ivanivanovic5586
      @ivanivanovic5586 4 года назад +6

      That we are, indeed.Especially if we can see how it works internally.

  • @il6993
    @il6993 4 года назад +767

    Ian and a FAMAS,
    Name a more iconic duo

    • @theincrediblefox
      @theincrediblefox 4 года назад +89

      I'd argue, theres a case to be made for Carl and the wheelbarrow full of mud.

    • @trungtonquang7627
      @trungtonquang7627 4 года назад +21

      Tom and Jerry

    • @theVulcanGuy
      @theVulcanGuy 4 года назад +4

      The FAMAS and the ghost mud.

    • @aliascent
      @aliascent 4 года назад +44

      Ian and 7.62 French Long.

    • @jannetu88
      @jannetu88 4 года назад +9

      Ian and Cobray Terminator.

  • @vincentkermorgant
    @vincentkermorgant 4 года назад +230

    Small correction : The magazine release on the F1 that Ian is showing in this video is not a prototype part, it is the original magazine release that was installed on the "A" prefix batch of the Famas. In service it was found to be problematic and a different one was used on all subsequent batches. One important aspect of the Famas for the french navy was the ability to use foreign made ammunition for commando type actions. In reality the G2 version was only actively used by the Fusiliers Marins (Marines) and the Commandos Marine (Navy seals). Batches of around 200 pieces were kept onboard the major surface vessels where they stayed brand new ;)

    • @vincentkermorgant
      @vincentkermorgant 4 года назад +20

      @@nirfz When i got my G2, we were trained to change the magazines with the left hand going below the buttstock. It wasn't ideal...

    • @mawithewese
      @mawithewese 4 года назад +2

      @@vincentkermorgant l equivalent des marines americains ce serais plutot les RIma non ?

    • @Lowlandlord
      @Lowlandlord 4 года назад +7

      The Commandos are Commandos, not Navy SEALS. They trace their lineage to the British Marine Commandos (of which they were a founding part, first Commandos to touch the beach during D-Day were French). Nothing against the SEALS, but they have a rather different lineage.

    • @practicalshooter6517
      @practicalshooter6517 4 года назад +1

      Tres bon Anglais pour un Breton

    • @solidtoto
      @solidtoto 4 года назад +5

      The NAVY still "uses" these G2 for the ships' guards and emergency self defense situations (sudden attacks from fast boats where you don't have time to load the .50cal for example, just take a helmet, a Famas and a bulletproof vest and shoot the bad guys!)

  • @davidweikle9921
    @davidweikle9921 4 года назад +51

    My unit (1st Battalion, 8th Marines, 2nd Marine Division) trained alongside some French Marines in 2007, as part of our workup to deploying to Iraq later that year. Everyone was impressed with the FAMAS and all of it features, particularly how quickly the ejection ports could be switched. The lefties wanted that capability in their rifle.

    • @freezetasticvoyage19
      @freezetasticvoyage19 8 месяцев назад

      It's a shame. Since south paws are there, they should have had m-16s with the ejection port on the left. Plus, I never liked the f-16 because it's control stick is on the right-hand side only, correct me if I'm wrong.

  • @theobuzat9091
    @theobuzat9091 4 года назад +777

    The worst part about the FAMAS, is when they are going to be fully replaced by the HK-416F-S/C, they are going to be destroyed, exept maybe for a few....Thanks Ian for this video, I still can't believe how you got in touch with the Ministère de l'Intérieur...just BRAVO.
    Oh yes, I'm still waiting on a AA-52 video, I know you filmed one...please Ian
    Edit: 400 (!!!) likes, just whoa and also thank you for the nice and peaceful conversation in the comments bellow, *THANK YOU*

    •  4 года назад +75

      Many will be kept in storage for the reserves

    • @origami26
      @origami26 4 года назад +51

      why won't they convert them to semi and sell them on the civilian market? It wouldn't be a complete loss of money

    • @A_L_E_G_S
      @A_L_E_G_S 4 года назад +104

      @@origami26 lots of EU countries dont allow sales of converted military rifles.. I guess the hassle bringing it to the US wouldnt be any better..

    • @TexasSpectre
      @TexasSpectre 4 года назад +117

      @@origami26 Because the largest civilian market in the world, the US, does not allow for de-converted machine guns. Per ATF, once a machine gun, always a machine gun (receiver). They would have to be imported as parts kits or converted to parts kits upon import, then built upon a new semi-auto only receiver and associated parts. I doubt there would be enough interest in the US to justify someone making new receivers and ATF-acceptable semi-only parts; same thing that's happened with retired FNCs and other classic Cold War rifles.

    • @armr6937
      @armr6937 4 года назад +52

      HK? Even the French? 4th Reich did what the 3rd couldn't...

  • @KhanSeb
    @KhanSeb 4 года назад +180

    Thanks a lot for the video. It's very hard to find informations on the FAMAS G2, even if you're a French speaking French person.

  • @jeffreywacker3598
    @jeffreywacker3598 4 года назад +319

    "WHOSE FOOTPRINTS ARE THESE?!?!?!"

    • @HolTukIj
      @HolTukIj 4 года назад +23

      "Snake?"

    • @viridisxiv766
      @viridisxiv766 4 года назад +20

      @@HolTukIj SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE!

    • @blackore64
      @blackore64 4 года назад +20

      HUH WHAT WAS THAT NOISE???

    • @clinteastwoodwannabe
      @clinteastwoodwannabe 4 года назад +19

      "IT'S JUST A BOX."

    • @TacBans
      @TacBans 4 года назад +21

      "They all have IQs over 180."
      "huh? what was that noise? who's footprints are these? what was that noise?"

  • @Zajuts149
    @Zajuts149 4 года назад +409

    If they're going to destroy most of these, I think the French government should engrave a pristine example as a presentation piece and send it via their ambassador in Washington DC to present to Ian in gratitude for his services of highlighting the history and technology of the French gun industry.

    • @averagewikipediaenthusiast3088
      @averagewikipediaenthusiast3088 4 года назад +46

      Nah. they should convert them to semi autos and sell them to the US, Switzerland, and other countries with lax gun laws

    • @colbunkmust
      @colbunkmust 4 года назад +23

      @Matthew Lu Uh, no, technically it can be done to comply but it involves cutting the receiver in half and welding it back together. the bigger issue would be importation back into the US to comply with 9/22r. Even in semi auto only rifle, importation of what would be classified as "non sporting" per atf regulation is a no go.

    • @Kookanoodles
      @Kookanoodles 4 года назад +2

      Make him a Knight in the National Order for Merit, I say.

    • @dbmail545
      @dbmail545 4 года назад +7

      It would have to be demilled to keep Ian from spending a lot of money and time to make it legal.

    • @delta2372
      @delta2372 4 года назад

      Why are they destroying the guns?

  • @-Seeker-
    @-Seeker- 4 года назад +158

    I wish Ian could get his hands on a FÉLIN rifle. That would be amazing.

    • @PapaSchultz74
      @PapaSchultz74 4 года назад +13

      Felin system sxxs. Its outdated, bulky and the battery life was some hours at max. a part for PR or night vision in rare occasions it was never actually used in the terrain. When the tv cameras where around the poor soldiers where told to go for the show and the never liked or used it

    • @Wewk1337
      @Wewk1337 4 года назад +57

      @@PapaSchultz74 I mean like 75% of the guns on this channel "suck", that's not the point.

    • @DC2022
      @DC2022 4 года назад +23

      Well, FELIN FAMAS is just a FAMAS F1 with a custom twist barrel (firing badly both M193 and M855 since they couldn't decide which ammunition would be selected, they selected both, yay!) made by Beretta with a life service of something like 5000 rounds so half you could expect (that's a third of a HK416's barrel for example) and the -crude- removal of PGMP and eco+ picatinny rail screwed on top of it, and grenade firing capability (the FELIN optics wouldn't endure a single APAV shot anyway). Some chinese plastic stick as foregrip command for FELIN optronic... It's even worse with the big fatty FELIN Scope who add kilometers of wire, batteries... A sad end I've to say.

    • @keithm5378
      @keithm5378 4 года назад +11

      There's also the Famas Valorise, and I think it'd be neat for him to take a look at both the FELIN Famas and the Valorise

    • @DC2022
      @DC2022 4 года назад +2

      @@keithm5378 difference between revalorisé and FELIN are close to none. just the FELIN stuff to be fitted and turning a slick assault rifle into a freaking piece of crap with no ergonomy and as practical as an anvil.

  • @richardpowell4281
    @richardpowell4281 4 года назад +372

    When we gonna see the Famas in a mud test Ian? The citizens demand it.

    • @richardtaylor1652
      @richardtaylor1652 4 года назад +54

      I believe he was asked that in a video on InRange and the answer was a polite 'no'.

    • @ham-mer-man2332
      @ham-mer-man2332 4 года назад +24

      Hind-D mud test after the FAMAS

    • @MongooseTacticool
      @MongooseTacticool 4 года назад +11

      @@ham-mer-man2332 They'll need a larger wheelbarrow!

    • @lieutenantcoloneltanyavond8273
      @lieutenantcoloneltanyavond8273 4 года назад +37

      When you find a madlad who will give them a FAMAS to mudtest. Ian, understandably so, is not really willing so sacrifice his :D They are pretty expensive in US afaik.

    • @ArkhBaegor
      @ArkhBaegor 4 года назад +8

      @@peterclarke7240 The plural of FAMAS is FAMAS

  • @Flapjackbatter
    @Flapjackbatter 4 года назад +1409

    ... French ministry of the interior?! Really? Oh, wow.

    • @bombcat91
      @bombcat91 4 года назад +197

      It's the word to word translation of "Ministère de l’intérieur", not particularly good but it's the most commonly recognized. One more anglicized translation would be Ministry of Home Security, or Homeland Ministry.

    • @lockpinos
      @lockpinos 4 года назад +463

      @@bombcat91 Other gun youtubers: "Bud's gun shop..."
      Gun Jesus: "French Ministry of the Interior..."

    • @BeneathAcacia
      @BeneathAcacia 4 года назад +17

      bombcat91 thanks for the insight

    • @rabeandre2
      @rabeandre2 4 года назад +223

      @@bombcat91 The translation is not the point. The point is that Ian has actual foreign government ministries loaning him current use firearms to do videos on!

    • @Ealsante
      @Ealsante 4 года назад +51

      @@bombcat91 It's a perfectly fine translation :) some countries also have Ministries of Interior Affairs.

  • @Antoine-uo4eu
    @Antoine-uo4eu 4 года назад +98

    Sounds funny because I'm in the French Navy and I shot this gun yesterday ! Videos on the G2 are rare ! :)
    The French navy is replacing this weapon with the HK416 (same for the French Army), I don't know what they will do with the G2s...

    • @Kookanoodles
      @Kookanoodles 4 года назад +14

      Maybe put them in storage or give them to the Gendarmerie? In any case it'll take some time to replace them all because I imagine the Army will get priority for the new HKs before the Navy. I saw during the launch of the Suffren that the Fusiliers marins already had HK416s.

    • @brvtalbeastboi5910
      @brvtalbeastboi5910 4 года назад +12

      It's a a damn shame honestly.

    • @McTrollenstein
      @McTrollenstein 4 года назад +8

      They'll probably just keep them in the armory. Same story with the Mk 14 and our M4s which are slowly being phased out for the SCAR. In certain branches of course.

    • @DC2022
      @DC2022 4 года назад +8

      yup, put on reserve and museum. Gendarmerie is issued with H&K rifles too (mainly G36). Probably flattened and cut in something like twenty/thirty years in the future I guess like they did with obsolete and decomissioned weapons before.

    • @BFOP15
      @BFOP15 4 года назад +6

      @@DC2022 : There are very few G36 in the Gendarmerie. They are for the PSIG Sabre only. ( Gendarmerie départementale)
      Most of the PSiG and brigades are issued Hk UMP submachine gun.
      In the Gendarmerie Mobile each Gendarme has his Famas as an individual weapon ( like for the Sp2022 handgun)
      For the moment the replacement of Famas in Gendarmerie Mobile is not planned.
      Gendarmerie Mobile has also some Hk mp5 as a collective weapon.

  • @godzilla1463
    @godzilla1463 4 года назад +588

    Designer: How many sights do you want on the rifle? 3? 4?
    French Military: Yes.

    • @easterriot1916
      @easterriot1916 4 года назад +5

      I was just thinking something along those lines... very convoluted bunch of sights....

    • @cycadaacolyte6349
      @cycadaacolyte6349 4 года назад +37

      French Military: Oui

    • @dsheshin
      @dsheshin 4 года назад +22

      Im imagining a nervous soldier flipping grenade sights in haste and accidentally taking down a plane with a burst

    • @jeremyl.8214
      @jeremyl.8214 4 года назад +18

      In practical use the sights are very good. The 3 option for the rear aperture are perfect. The grenade stuff are out of the way.
      It's a good weapon but a pain in the ass to clean, too many little spots with difficult access to them. And you have to use your left hand to disangage the safety to semi auto.
      A french guy (so I don't write perfect english).

    • @richardtravalini5079
      @richardtravalini5079 3 года назад

      so true

  • @bdasf2214
    @bdasf2214 4 года назад +47

    Vive la France! Très content que le Mininstère de l'Intérieur vous donne accès directement à certaines armes à feu et de voir que la qualité de vos recherches est appréciée à sa juste valeur!

    • @caliaromain7612
      @caliaromain7612 4 года назад +4

      Plutot etonnant de la part du Ministere de l'Interieur, mais c'est une bonne surprise effectivement. Ca fait plaisir de voir que des francais suive cette chaine.

  • @pdalia
    @pdalia 4 года назад +14

    Such good memories , I’ve fired it almost 25 years ago and still have the plastic feeling of the rifle ... such a superb and extremely well made gun , cheers to the French 🇫🇷

  • @RonJeremy514
    @RonJeremy514 4 года назад +193

    I love when Gun Jesus pops out of nowhere with a video like this about french weaponry, with the french ministry of the interior's approval. Because us regular french would never have such authorizations. Our people's lord and savior!

    • @PapaSchultz74
      @PapaSchultz74 4 года назад +5

      Actually the video is quite old, same time i imagine as the other vids on his french trip. Ian was just teasing a bit holding it out for actual rainy days. 😊😊

    • @davidlacoste
      @davidlacoste 4 года назад +7

      Amazing that he was apparently invited by the ministry of interior. There are still smart people there apparently.

    • @RonJeremy514
      @RonJeremy514 4 года назад +2

      @@davidlacoste I would definitely trade our current minister with Ian permanently without hesitation.

    • @davidlacoste
      @davidlacoste 4 года назад +9

      @@RonJeremy514 Who wouldn't?!
      We could trade Castaner for a goat and that would be a good deal for us. For a Gun Jesus, i'm ready to trade the whole government. Le gouvernÉment français, toujours à la pointe du pire.

    • @europeansovietunion7372
      @europeansovietunion7372 4 года назад +3

      @@owlman4167 Sorry not impressed. You're not Gun Jesus.

  • @johnprice5784
    @johnprice5784 4 года назад +10

    I have had an airsoft F1 for 20 years and never realized that the trigger guard pivoted forward for when using gloves, well you live and learn, thanks Ian.

  • @GunsNGames1
    @GunsNGames1 4 года назад +105

    That's a gorgeous rifle, the FAMAS is just beautiful.

    • @cbrug6992
      @cbrug6992 4 года назад +4

      Not my style but I can appreciate it.

    • @richardpowell4281
      @richardpowell4281 4 года назад +5

      Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

    • @richardtaylor1652
      @richardtaylor1652 4 года назад +6

      I think it is a nice looking bullpup. Looks more robust than the AUG and less bulky than the SA80 series. Looks like a rifle which was well thought out from the start when compared to other bullpup designs.

    • @MrKalash19
      @MrKalash19 4 года назад

      i call it Farm Ass for that reason

    • @jonprince3237
      @jonprince3237 4 года назад

      @@richardtaylor1652 and yet it's not any of those things. The AUG is by far the best, the SA80 is fat and bulky, but the Fa Mas has without doubt the worst ergonomics of the three, it's genuinely painful to use.

  • @RezaQin
    @RezaQin 4 года назад +125

    Imagine if all those import restrictions were lifted along with the NFA.

    • @Celebmacil
      @Celebmacil 4 года назад +30

      Ah yes, that way it would just be the French government refusing to sell the rifle that would prevent your owning one. ;)

    • @The27Spartan
      @The27Spartan 4 года назад +2

      I have a better idea. Just migrate to France, integrate, join the military and there you go!

    • @alexanderstrickland9036
      @alexanderstrickland9036 4 года назад +11

      The27Spartan you don’t have to integrate. Just join their foreign legion

    • @WALTERBROADDUS
      @WALTERBROADDUS 4 года назад

      Try dreaming about things that could happen.

    • @dothwalrus370
      @dothwalrus370 4 года назад

      @@The27Spartan They replaced the FAMAS with the HK416 so that won't solve the problem.

  • @dcnumber9
    @dcnumber9 4 года назад +90

    when ian started talking about mittens in cold weather my brain went to shadow moses

    • @TheGreatSmitzJoey
      @TheGreatSmitzJoey 4 года назад +6

      "Five-five sixers and pineapples"

    • @OptimusSledge
      @OptimusSledge 4 года назад +1

      Harasho! Good, you found a SOCOM.

    • @HPSmugscraft
      @HPSmugscraft 4 года назад +3

      A Hind D?

    • @LordKalte
      @LordKalte 4 года назад

      @@HPSmugscraft Colonel, what's a russian gunship doing here?

    • @pcy623
      @pcy623 4 года назад

      @@HPSmugscraft In this weather?!

  • @GigAnonymous
    @GigAnonymous 4 года назад +213

    11:20 "these are very rare rifles outside of Franc" - incorrect. They are very rare rifle, period. Most French gun enthusiasts (like me) would sell a liver or a relative to get their hand on a FAMAS... most of the 'civilian' sales were made in the US, converted select-fire firearms are now essentially impossible to get as a civy and all the FAMAS in the army will be destroyed after being replaced by the HK... a tragedy, really.

    • @krautandsalo
      @krautandsalo 4 года назад +24

      When the Bundeswehr decided to destroy most of their G3s, they were cut using plasmacutters. Since there were so many rifles to be destroyed, they simply weighed the rifles going into the workshop and weighed the scrap coming out.
      Since this method of destruction removes a certain amount of material there was a certain amount of leeway in how much the scrap had to weigh.
      Meaning, that this leeway was used to take working rifles as souvenirs by the workers.
      (At least that's what my seargent in the army told me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯)
      So there is hope that the French might use the same system, and some guns might be saved.

    • @itstheeconomy2101
      @itstheeconomy2101 4 года назад +42

      "the FAMAS in the army will be destroyed after being replaced by the HK"
      This is the French administration we're talking about. They simply cannot commit the unpardonable crime of breaking with their long tradition of rigorous abject bureaucratic inefficacy.

    • @Le_Church
      @Le_Church 4 года назад +8

      Its a tragedy for the french manufacture of arms but changing a rifle obselete because of its lack of modularity, sharing ammo with friendlies and choosing a rifle that used to be used mostly by sof, its a good move. Its too bad France is doing it while the US is looking at other types of ammunition, when picatinny rails are being phased out for mlok(or keymod configuration). But then again, it is typically french to join the party late. We're still rocking CE and patrols still are not trigger ready if they were to be engaged after all the 'recent' Paris attacks.

    • @loyp4328
      @loyp4328 4 года назад

      Quite a few were made in .222 Remington (at least F1 ones)

    • @GigAnonymous
      @GigAnonymous 4 года назад +7

      They might be saved, but there's pretty much no chance of them ever being legal to use for sport shooters. And really you don't want to get caught with an unregistered A category firearm, if you ever want to be allowed to go anywhere a firing range ever again...

  • @Zeiphyrus
    @Zeiphyrus 4 года назад +24

    You can feel how Ian is excited to get his hands on the french hardware :D

  • @jan-hendrikbussmann4644
    @jan-hendrikbussmann4644 4 года назад +12

    Can there be any greater recognition for a RUclipsr's work than a federal ministry allowing you access to one of their guns? It's great to see that the reach you have matches the quality of your work, Ian.

  • @milesfinch
    @milesfinch 4 года назад +31

    The FAMAS is the Swiss army knife of the assault rifle world, i bloody love it.

    • @MrBandholm
      @MrBandholm 4 года назад +1

      I sometimes think that Ian has made the FAMAS 100% more interesting for most people, simply by loving it :)

  • @DrPikouz
    @DrPikouz 4 года назад +8

    Regarding the grenade sights :
    - the indirect fire one has two positions, 45° and 74° ; you are not allowed to use the latter in "times of peace" (i.e. not for training) due to risks of the grenade coming back towards you in case of strong winds
    - the direct fire one, as far as I know, has been removed on most FAMAS, and is replaced by disposable sights that you tack on the front sight of the rifle itself. Those disposable sights come with the grenades themselves in the newer batches. Which is a problem when you have to shoot older rifle grenade batches that come without those grenade sights (but still come with 7.5 mm bullets to shoot with the MAS 49-56, very old batches indeed) and no one manages to aim their grenade properly.
    Hope those precisions were of interest.

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 4 года назад +137

    We should award Ian for removing the ‘very annoying’ stereotype of French history and weapons.

    • @thesturm8686
      @thesturm8686 4 года назад +14

      Ikr, i gain more respect for the french thanks to him

    • @S3Cs4uN8
      @S3Cs4uN8 4 года назад +27

      @@thesturm8686 Hell just a cursory overview of European history paints France as a military juggernaut for nearly 1000 years.

    • @ohmygoditisspider7953
      @ohmygoditisspider7953 3 года назад +5

      @@S3Cs4uN8 any time someone claims the stereotype of the frogs as cheese eating surrender monkeys, i link the wiki article for the coalition wars and draw focus on the fact that these occured on the tail end of the revolution

    • @RedOrm68
      @RedOrm68 3 года назад +5

      With the French it is always a a case of admire and dislike.
      You have to admire the staunch independence / stubbornness the French display in doctrine and design, like military weapon systems. Or their military aircraft. Or the Citroën DS.
      The right to staunch independence / stubbornness is not often extended to other countries, though, be they adversaries or allies. I don't like that about the French.

    • @spikespa5208
      @spikespa5208 3 года назад +1

      @@RedOrm68 Same can be said of many countries.

  • @Le_Church
    @Le_Church 4 года назад +324

    I hate when Ian is in France and we dont hang out.

    • @Kebbab.213
      @Kebbab.213 4 года назад +13

      Dommage

    • @thompkins6796
      @thompkins6796 4 года назад +3

      I used to live around Rock Island and I found this channel right when I moved ☹️

    • @dsheshin
      @dsheshin 4 года назад +1

      I feel it bro. Same about Russia. Oh wait Ian hasn't yet been in Russia

  • @Ian-oe9wp
    @Ian-oe9wp 4 года назад +129

    steyr acr fires : flechettes
    famas fires : baguettes

    • @briansmithwins
      @briansmithwins 4 года назад +9

      High explosive and anti tank baguettes

    • @bisque
      @bisque 4 года назад

      Hon hon hon oui oui baguette

    • @BillHel
      @BillHel 4 года назад +3

      Stale baguette > depleted uranium

  • @enricopaolocoronado2511
    @enricopaolocoronado2511 4 года назад +73

    Ah, the FAMAS. Standard issue rifle of Genome Soldiers stationed at Shadow Moses Island.

  • @alexhazlett9587
    @alexhazlett9587 4 года назад +1

    Thank you, Ian, a very cool variant! I was a Marine (so a trained basic shooter), I've always had friends with guns, i have shot various firearms but the only one i owned was a reenactor's 13th century 1-inch bore, approximately one ounce projectile (we fired blanks for ceremony, but it had been fired with solid shot before I had it) 'tube on a stick' hand cannon. Watching your videos has really taught me a lot about firearms mechanisms and function.

  • @thejoojoo9999
    @thejoojoo9999 4 года назад +44

    Hey Ian, on the topic of modern military rifles, could you review the Sig550 (also known as FASS90/STG90) ?
    I have just finished my mandatory military service here in Switzerland and I've noticed you have reviewed many former service rifles of the Swiss army and many Sig Sauer rifles (even variants of the Sig550), but never the actual Swiss service rifle.
    Having carried it all day long for the past few months, I have heard many different opinions on how exactly it compares to other rifles in the world, how good of a gun it is and even how exactly it functions (sadly, our NCOs and Officers only know how to handle and maintain the rifle but not how it mechanically really works).
    I'd love to hear your opinion and explanations on the subject !
    Salutations de Suisse

    • @BicyclesMayUseFullLane
      @BicyclesMayUseFullLane 4 года назад +2

      You'll probably have better luck getting the folks at BotR to do one for Stgw 90, given that they actually live in Switzerland. Though it seems they are more focused on slightly older firearms. But who knows, maybe with enough prodding, they'll do one.

    • @viggenguy4411
      @viggenguy4411 4 года назад +4

      @@BicyclesMayUseFullLane Bloke has said that he doesn't really like the Stgw90. Too boring given how common they are in Switzerland.

    • @vincentkermorgant
      @vincentkermorgant 4 года назад +1

      I owned a Fass90 converted to semi for a while. It works but it's really not anything extraordinary. Just a glorified AK47...

  • @GageTM
    @GageTM 4 года назад +7

    I love how nonchalant he is about having the French Ministry of the Interior give him a Military exclusive rifle to analyze

    • @onpsxmember
      @onpsxmember 4 года назад

      If you backtrack and find the first time they gave him access, I think he mentions it shortly.

  • @ktwei
    @ktwei 4 года назад +79

    Genome soldiers are paying attention.

    • @Bee-N64
      @Bee-N64 4 года назад +11

      Who's footprints are these...?

    • @KhanSeb
      @KhanSeb 4 года назад +6

      Fun fact : the FAMAS in Metal Gear Solid are actually based on the FAMAS "SV", an airsoft version made by the Japanese Airsoft Company Tokyo Marui. Those FAMAS have the G2 trigger guard and the F1 magazines.

    • @rxh-kq6lh
      @rxh-kq6lh 4 года назад +3

      @@KhanSeb The "Famas SV" is a Famas G1 and nothing else. G1 was a mix between the F1 and G2, body of the G2 and magazine well of the G1, that was supposed to be manufactured in Belgium by FN Herstal in 1990-1992 when FNH was owned by GIAT Industries. It never happened on a large scale as there was no demand for such a weapon, I believe only a few dozens maximum of them were made in total.

    • @WozWozEre
      @WozWozEre 4 года назад +8

      "Five five sixers and pineapples"

    • @KhanSeb
      @KhanSeb 4 года назад

      @@rxh-kq6lh According to what Ian is saying in this video ( 3:03 ) the real FAMAS G1 use Stanag magazines.

  • @Shadowofthesoldier
    @Shadowofthesoldier 4 года назад +46

    How did you gain access to the armory of the French Ministry of Interior ? Guess, there must be some gun-nuts fans of your work in there too !
    So Happy to finally see you making a video on the G2. That's cool !
    Little edit : I know for having made historical researchs on old military vehicles that they are very open and easy to reach for inquiries though.

    • @galtur5241
      @galtur5241 4 года назад +5

      I think he sayied in a Q&A that they reached out to him

    • @garysimpson3900
      @garysimpson3900 4 года назад +3

      His series of articles last year about French military rifles from Chassepot to Mas has clearly earned him some kudos & standing with the French military.

    • @DC2022
      @DC2022 4 года назад +1

      Depends. For example you can quite easily access to the Centre des Archives de l'Armement et du Personnel Civil in Châtellerault where you can find the precious blue prints and archives of tanks but that's another story for other departments and Ministry.

    • @practicalshooter6517
      @practicalshooter6517 4 года назад

      Simple, write a book about French guns, it opens doors to all of France.

  • @SpartanXfive
    @SpartanXfive 4 года назад +6

    Really Impressive that you get to access to this G2. Congratulations for such recognition from a french ministry.
    I guess now, we, French people can wait for a French version of your book ? Seriously, do you plan a translation ?

    • @DC2022
      @DC2022 4 года назад +1

      I would love to see this come true. Because the shipping fees were just atrocious, almost the cost of the book.

    • @methodeetrigueur1164
      @methodeetrigueur1164 4 года назад

      Ce serait effectivement excellent et intéressant d’avoir ce livre traduit en français.

  • @marechalfoch2270
    @marechalfoch2270 4 года назад +3

    7:38 , look like you remember my comment on the F1 video about pulling the lever in order to push the pin of the bolt ahaha , and great video as usual

  • @flashbaNg89
    @flashbaNg89 4 года назад +3

    I love your videos on the Famas Ian. Really hope you managed to put your hands on a Valorisé/Félin version :)

  • @dex6147
    @dex6147 4 года назад

    Thank you for showing the sight picture Ian! I asked you if you could, when you posted another FAMAS video a while back. You're attention to detail is as great as you're attention to your viewers.

  • @charlesstoeng9166
    @charlesstoeng9166 4 года назад +3

    A reliable, practical and handy weapon that has served it's time and always been up to expectations.

  • @mikeofwar2684
    @mikeofwar2684 4 года назад +4

    7:38 That sound was satisfying as hell

  • @Piotwor
    @Piotwor 4 года назад +20

    Such a shame the French sold their armories and can't keep making these. Gorgeous rifles.

    • @MrBandholm
      @MrBandholm 4 года назад

      I suspect that had France been a bit more flexible and open about their rifles, that a lot of other nations would have adopted the Famas, nations with small but elite military units, would likely be more interested in something like a FAMAS, than the AR-family, due to the ARs for a long time needing both a long rifle and a carbine.

    • @PapaSchultz74
      @PapaSchultz74 4 года назад

      THALES and Nexter are stil french conglomerates that make weapons. THALES makes the excelent f90 in Australia and Nexter owns FNH. So there stil a litle hope

    • @DC2022
      @DC2022 4 года назад

      @@PapaSchultz74 NEXTER does NOT own FNH. GIAT owned it but it was sold back to Belgium just before 2000. This was a real money pit mainly due to belgium.
      But France doesn't really car about small arms. They don't see this industry as a strategic need, so they don't invest on this sector, focusing on more expensive and critical parts of army like vehicles (but even then, they started a joint venture with KMW, KNDS, to build the next MBT of german and french armies and are doing the same with next gen fighter)

    • @HatsuneM1ku01
      @HatsuneM1ku01 4 года назад

      Maybe psa can get in on making some since they are on the trend of making clone rifles for affordable prices

    • @PapaSchultz74
      @PapaSchultz74 4 года назад

      @@DC2022 my bad i had not folowed their developement since GIAT owned them. Well in a way wallonie region is a bit french 😉

  • @leonardokonasugawa8640
    @leonardokonasugawa8640 4 года назад +3

    I was expecting a video about the FAMAS G2. Finally!

  • @mrjohnbrush
    @mrjohnbrush 4 года назад +13

    Too bad the French army didn't adopt this version of the FAMAS. As usual, great video. Thanks Ian!

    • @MrHat.
      @MrHat. 4 года назад +2

      I wish Ian did mention this, but when NATO picked their 5.56 round, France actually left NATO so they basically didn't have to comply with NATO standards

    • @Jehty_
      @Jehty_ 4 года назад +3

      @@MrHat. nope.
      5.56 was standardized in 1980.
      France withdrew from the integrated NATO command in 1966.
      So France never left the NATO, and their withdrawal was a few years before the 5.56×45mm NATO was even developed.

    • @vincentkermorgant
      @vincentkermorgant 4 года назад +3

      @@MrHat. Not exactly. The MAS developped the FAMAS around the time when the Vietnam war was ending and France made a bet that the new M193 5,56mm would become the new Nato standard. The design and specs were finalized around 1975, a time when the US was still using the M193. By the time production started (1977 IIRC) the S109 wasn't adopted yet. Once production started, that was it. No change of ammunition when millions of rounds were produced yearly for a conscription army. Fun fact : If Belgium had purchased Mirage F1 instead of F16s, the FAMAS would have never been adopted and the french army would have used the FNC instead (it was part of the proposed deal)

    • @mrjohnbrush
      @mrjohnbrush 4 года назад

      Thank you for you insights! Very interesting 👍

  • @chopinbloc
    @chopinbloc 4 года назад +1

    Were the night sights radium or tritium?

  • @mrpirate6187
    @mrpirate6187 4 года назад +8

    He definitely tried to negotiate a price with them.

  • @Meldonator
    @Meldonator 4 года назад +1

    Funny the Ministère de l'Intérieur (in charge of the Police to make it short) has some G2 since the Marine Nationale is under the Ministère de la Défense... but that's, like always, a really interesting video about a really piece of gun jewelry (everything in those guns was well thought, even the sling. too bad the F1 magazines were not up to the standards of the rifles)

  • @rrphantom8194
    @rrphantom8194 4 года назад +46

    Imagine if this video sets a new diplomatic conflict and every country give Ian a unit of their native rifle to show it's better than the others

    • @OptimusSledge
      @OptimusSledge 4 года назад +10

      I really hope Britain doesn't take part, the SA80 would just embarrass us.

    • @dsheshin
      @dsheshin 4 года назад

      Waiting for Topol M review in a couple of years

    • @philswift1252
      @philswift1252 4 года назад +1

      OptimusSledge The A2 wouldn’t be too bad would it?

    • @alt5494
      @alt5494 4 года назад +2

      First step Ian's grey room dream✓

  • @TheAmazingCowpig
    @TheAmazingCowpig 4 года назад +2

    Our favorite French firearm fanboy gets another chance to do a FAMAS video, this time really from France itself! How far things have come!

  • @michaelplaczek9385
    @michaelplaczek9385 4 года назад +3

    Oh, the Famas, one of the few bullpups that actually work well

  • @malikbahri3749
    @malikbahri3749 4 года назад

    (and thank you Ian to make all this cool video on french weaponery)

  • @G1AGAIN
    @G1AGAIN 4 года назад +3

    It's starting to look like the battle rifle I don't know if I should be excited, amazed, worried, or scared

  • @HereticsRight
    @HereticsRight 4 года назад +1

    One note for Ian, maybe start bringing a small pen light with you for pointing out features in hard to see areas, especially inside barrels or tubes or places that don’t get much light. It could make pointing out a tiny lip a lot easier like in this video.

  • @5anjuro
    @5anjuro 4 года назад +41

    Things that reduce stress, anxiety, lower blood pressure, and bring world peace:
    - interacting with furry animals
    - a walk in the woods
    - listening to Ian talk about stuff

  • @daniellefevre2348
    @daniellefevre2348 Год назад +2

    I can just say, Ian, that I like the FAMAS G2 quite a lot! I don't think this 100% NATO-compatible French Navy bullpup assault rifle is going to be replaced by the HK416 in the coming years, which is good news. Special forces in the army, the navy and the air force use a variety of weapons, sometimes transformed according to their requirements. The HK416 is less romantic than the clairon, no doubt about it, but it already exists in various adaptations according to the customers' requirements... German practical sense and industrial power.... So it goes...

  • @DarthWinterMadness
    @DarthWinterMadness 4 года назад +4

    Hey Ian, thanks for the video.
    I'm curious to know when you filmed this video since travel between our countries is supposed to be shut off.
    Anyways, cheers from quarantined France! 🍻🇫🇷🇺🇸

    • @Roi8Arachnide
      @Roi8Arachnide 4 года назад +2

      He already posted the manurhin sniper revolver video from the same place a few months back. My guess is that he filmed all the videos in a day and uploads them progressively

    • @Wike1991
      @Wike1991 4 года назад +1

      He's stated in a past video he has a pretty big back log of videos in a queue. He'll film as many videos as some museum or collector will let him but not necessarily upload all of then immediately

    • @ForgottenWeapons
      @ForgottenWeapons  4 года назад +2

      Yes, I filmed this a while back. I have a FAMAS Commando video to post form the trip as well :)

  • @Aegishand
    @Aegishand 4 года назад +1

    Excellent content as usual it's a shame we may never see a new famas it's such an iconic firearm.

  • @ThatDeltaBravo
    @ThatDeltaBravo 4 года назад +9

    Damn! You know so much about French rifles. Have you ever considered writing a book on them? :P

    • @TreacherousFennec
      @TreacherousFennec 4 года назад +1

      Chassepot to famas, he already have one.

    • @davidlacoste
      @davidlacoste 4 года назад

      @@TreacherousFennec Yep, i'd hope we could buy it in France.

  • @alchemist889
    @alchemist889 4 года назад +2

    As a bullpup fan it really saddens me that we never got a commercial version of this iconic piece.

    • @excellenceetserenite9541
      @excellenceetserenite9541 11 месяцев назад

      MAS .223 pour les USA et MAS .222 pour le marché français en semi-automatique !

  • @exploreseafaring
    @exploreseafaring 4 года назад +4

    Scrolling through the comments with the sole intention of finding that one iconic question.
    "Is that a..."

  • @InfectiousFight
    @InfectiousFight 4 года назад

    I suspect the handguard change was for more than just mittens accommodation; full-length trigger guards like that are quite common on bullpup rifles and not on others; from what I've read it's to compensate for the lack of magazine well forward of the hand which normally helps prevent people from smashing their hands into doorframes, or rocks when going prone, etc. etc.

  • @theiviachine
    @theiviachine 4 года назад +5

    I love this gun. I wish someone like PSA would make a clone of the G2

  • @charleyfolkes
    @charleyfolkes 4 года назад

    Nicely done. I like how the camera looks at the gun as though we were getting to look at it like , ‘ let’s see the sight picture, ahh yes !’

  • @789french5
    @789french5 4 года назад +6

    I LIVE LIKE 45 MINUTES FROM ST ETIENNE: THE CITY THAT MAKES GUNS
    Please come and visit!

  • @InexorWoW
    @InexorWoW 4 года назад

    I did in fact see the change in rifling thank you very much.

  • @brvtalbeastboi5910
    @brvtalbeastboi5910 4 года назад +6

    Honestly I'm a bit sad the French are jumping on the bandwagon and replacing their rifles with HK's. I would have liked to see an updated famas

  • @vhlps
    @vhlps 4 года назад +2

    I've never shot one obviously, but I feel that the way the iron sights are built, it creates a type of "tunnel vision" that fucks up with your surroundings.

  • @MikaelKKarlsson
    @MikaelKKarlsson 4 года назад +9

    Enlarged handguard to accommodate for mittens in cold weather. Hmm, when have the french ever really fought in cold weather...
    OH NOES THEY'RE GOING FOR MOSCOW!

    • @otm646
      @otm646 4 года назад +1

      Afghanistan was cold AF. It's mountains on top of mountains.

  • @happisakshappiplace.6588
    @happisakshappiplace.6588 4 года назад +2

    Have to say out of all the bullpups around the Famas always looks 100% the business.

  • @Mixu.
    @Mixu. 4 года назад +5

    I know the design is kind of unconventional, but I for one think the gun looks beautiful. I could imagine it feeling nice too.

  • @CatcherSpartan
    @CatcherSpartan 4 года назад +1

    One of the coolest assault rifle bull pups out there. My personal favorite. Amazing to see one.

  • @mattfleming86
    @mattfleming86 4 года назад +23

    I would love to see some real statistics regarding application of "dingus and doodads" immediately adjacent to the trigger (safeties, bolt catch, etc.) and how those affect the rate of AD/ND for weapons that have that feature. So many manufacturers have dabbled with the idea, and it seems that future generations often exclude it. Modern firearm theology does the whole "booger hook off bang switch" thing and yet companies still dabble in that real estate.

  • @bigornek
    @bigornek 4 года назад

    Being a retired "Marsouin" from the french Infanterie de Marine, I loved this gun! 'Ve tried a lot of others, but FAMAS has always been a favorite!

  • @gilbertopadilla3611
    @gilbertopadilla3611 4 года назад +3

    I think you've made it in the gun world when the French Ministry of the Interior starts lending you guns. Congrats Ian!

  • @loupiscanis9449
    @loupiscanis9449 4 года назад

    Thank you , Ian .

  • @jonbeck5945
    @jonbeck5945 4 года назад +3

    It would be awesome if someone would make these in the US. I’d love to have one. Even if it is shitty semi-auto. It would still be a cool rifle to own.

  • @fritzkuhne2055
    @fritzkuhne2055 4 года назад +2

    what an attractive rifle

  • @PaulBd78
    @PaulBd78 4 года назад +5

    I'm so sad my country is getting rid of this gun. It really embodies the french particularity when it comes to firearms, as well as it is a pledge of independance (whereas with the new HK416, we are now forced to rely on foreign supply).

  • @Awesomebongle
    @Awesomebongle 3 года назад +1

    I would love to see a video on the valorise variant. My personal favorate, but I dont see a lot of materail on it and was sure that was the current production famas

  • @dai2dai246
    @dai2dai246 4 года назад +3

    Hey, that's my rifle! Nice seeing it.

  • @94palerider
    @94palerider 4 года назад

    For i nfo the last model is the famas valorise or famas felin upgradre with a optronique system and a new barrel made by beretta. But due to the fail of felin this is now used simply with eotech sight.

  • @Villanuevac4
    @Villanuevac4 4 года назад +8

    Weapon suggestion: FIM-92 Stinger.

  • @camillecirrus3977
    @camillecirrus3977 4 года назад

    The Famas will forever be one of my favourite rifles of all time. And nothing can change my mind.

  • @its_dippy6779
    @its_dippy6779 4 года назад +68

    Gun Jesus himself has earned the favor of the French Ministry of the Interior.
    Suppose all that garble for .32 French Longue was not for naught.

    • @jimmytehgeek
      @jimmytehgeek 4 года назад +1

      No, the French Ministry of the Interior has earned Ian's favor

  • @jonbob2
    @jonbob2 4 года назад

    I wish the original FAMAS video was still on RUclips.

  • @ealtar
    @ealtar 4 года назад +9

    what about the famas "felin"

    • @adto5942
      @adto5942 4 года назад

      I think it is the next on the list.

    • @DC2022
      @DC2022 4 года назад +3

      prepare to be disapointed.

    • @cargaisontuba3361
      @cargaisontuba3361 4 года назад

      Famas "revalorisé" is better, it's the Famas felin without futuristic shit and it's quite good

    • @ealtar
      @ealtar 4 года назад

      @@cargaisontuba3361 ha yes ""futuristic"" 1992
      people don't be mean .. it's not like cheapo airsoft has better "chinisium" (plastic) than the felin hardware

    • @PetitAgent66
      @PetitAgent66 4 года назад

      it's the thing that killed felin and the manufacturer who made the FAMAS

  • @aaronorr5586
    @aaronorr5586 4 года назад

    The 1 in 7.7" twist was adopted to stabilize the M856 Tracer projectile, not so much the M855 projectile. To get the necessary flight characteristics of the light for construction tracer projectiles to pair with the M855 the tracer has a loooong bearing surface.

  • @romain5029
    @romain5029 4 года назад +3

    i am a simple frog. Gun jesus review the FAMAS, i like

  • @hw4075
    @hw4075 4 года назад

    Been waiting for this video for a long time

  • @2015071
    @2015071 4 года назад +4

    Psycho Mantis?

  • @mkvenner2
    @mkvenner2 4 года назад

    I have been eagerly awaiting this video for a long time.

  • @Nine-Ball
    @Nine-Ball 4 года назад +3

    "They're armed with 5.56ers and Pineapples."

    • @lawrencedear9403
      @lawrencedear9403 4 года назад

      “What’s a HIND-D doing in Alaska???”

    • @IAmBushid0
      @IAmBushid0 3 года назад

      Where can I find a Sniper rifle?

  • @akimlettner2984
    @akimlettner2984 4 года назад

    A nother plus for stg77 and the quick change barrels for length and rifling twist.

  • @djenei2564
    @djenei2564 4 года назад +3

    I hope my OCD gets cured by they making the magazine divisible by 3

    • @kalashnikov98
      @kalashnikov98 4 года назад +1

      DJenei it's to let them know it's out of ammunition

    • @PrototypeSpaceMonkey
      @PrototypeSpaceMonkey 4 года назад +1

      FAMAS: Prrp, Prrp, Prrp, Prrp, Prrp, Prrp, Prrp, Prrp, Bang!
      French soldier with OCD: "Merde"

    • @DC2022
      @DC2022 4 года назад

      Since most of 25rnd mags were fitted with only 21/22 ammunitions because shitty mags quality and lack of spare, even F1 could please your OCD ; )

  • @deck614
    @deck614 3 года назад

    Merci Monsieur! ;)
    I could not get any informations about these changings, even if I used to be a gun mechanics in the French Army in 1988-89...

  • @__-pz8uo
    @__-pz8uo 4 года назад +33

    finally , some french.

  • @blackflagqwerty
    @blackflagqwerty 4 года назад +2

    Been waiting for this one!

  • @eltadashi1
    @eltadashi1 4 года назад +6

    I´m shooting with this gun with unlimited ammo, while wearing my bandana.

  • @jonabotha1572
    @jonabotha1572 4 года назад +1

    hey can you set up a playlist for every country you ever covered i see there is some but not all thank you for just making the vids you do though there awsome