This video was probably disliked by the kids who searched for "extreme drumming" and thought this one would be yet another one-dimensional 300BPM doublekicking, with endless blast beats and single stroke rolls. Instead, they found a progressive fusion jazz MONSTER, with impecable technique, chock-full of dynamics polyrhytmic playing with odd time signatures...and disliked it for not being able to yet comprehend what they saw. :)
Wouldn't call it uninteresting going fast and doing crazy shit becase those drummers are excellent in their own right but.... when i first started playing bass i would play to marco doing those solo videos and just try to keep up. I like them all why can't we all just be friends! lol
I'm near certain the whole thing was just for attention. Even though they might not have told Mangini cause his reaction was pretty genuine. But I'm pretty sure they just brought all the other big names in just to get people to tune back in even though Portnoy left. Maybe not but like it would seem like an unbelievably obvious choice if it were real.
As a drummer, I can say this guy is one of the best I've ever heard. His rhythmic sense KICKS ASS! Never even heard about him until a few months ago, can't believe it.
PintoconLacras Honestly, I've been a Dream Theater for years and don't really like the new direction that they have taken. Feels too straightforward to me. Don't get me wrong, Mangini is a great player (probably better than Portnoy) but I feel like the band lost something in Portnoy.
Jared Fitzgerald First of all, Dream Theater lost a great composer, technique isn't all. And second, Portnoy have a groove that Mangini hasn't, seems like a midi version of Portnoy, plays really good but with less feeling. If the composition is based on velocity and technique results in music for musicians, and listen that music to enjoy ends in a great effort. SORRY about my English if something is wrong. By the way... Minnemann + Steven Wilson is the perfect combination.
Marco, is a mad man, i've been playin drums a long time....got heros like Buddy Rich, Billy Cobham, Bill Bruford, Bonzo, Neil Peart, Dennis Chambers, then i found Marco......i am in AWE!!!....He's VERY special!!..hope he has a LONG carreer, so i may enjoy him fer years!!!
I think i got it....the count is.... ...eleventeen,69,elevendy,0.5,16'2/3s,3 and half years old,1-2-buckle my shoe,-1,1+-1,balls,tree fidy,and one half quarter note of two thirty second note quadtriplet double standard hexatuplet number 2 poops over 3/4 56 single double buzz flutters x2
+Rob Warrilow It was tricky to figure out... I first thought it was 1 ,7 ,double elevendy sixpence a pocket full of rye but after the top underside bottom of the slantways ride groove came in I realized it was 1, 2 buckle my shoe
I once made Marco a cup of coffee. " How many sugars?" I asked. "Three" came the reply, " but I want you to add them to the coffee in 7/8 time, with accents on the 4 and the 7". He ended up wearing the fucking coffee, but I did manage to throw it at him in 3/4. By the way, this joke is easier to understand when accompanied by a click track.
It's a pleasure to hear performance at this level, and a genre that raises music reminiscences heard only in the highest performances of all time. compliments
I kinda agree for Thomas Lang, but I discovered Marco Minnemann with his work with Steven Wilson (some lives available on YT) and Guthrie Govan with the Aristocrats. Both projects very very musical :) Check it out!
MikroXdrums i've heard Aristocrats - but i don't find them very interesting honestly. Marco's drumming there nothing particular - maybe i've heard the wrong songs? would be glad if you post a link on interesting stuff they play - i obviously could miss smth
I don't think Mangini or Minneman, or even Harrison are any people any of us can say "I see nothing so and so can or can't do"....All three are just amazing musicians, none better than the other, just different. And thank god for that. Harrison has been my favorite drummer for quite a while now, and I have developed quite the love for Marco's playing. Mangini hasn't grown on me yet, but I still can't say any of them is better than the other. Keep up the amazing drumming gents, Cheers!
Marco and Paul Gilbert are a match made in heaven. No two individuals have more fun playing music than them, also they're both absolute monsters in case that needed stating.
Love Marco's playing overall, though my favorite part of this particular video is from 4:05-4:10 simply because he hits that gong drum so many times lol. I love how that thing sounds! :D
I saw this guy up in West LA one time ..hes insane...and amazing personality very humble and friendly dude..I told my daddy, i wanna be like markos when I grw up
This dude is the bestest. Seriously. I've watched a ton of drummers and this guy is the cake that takes it. Sure, other guys are faster, but... Faster don't necessarily mean Better.
IMHO, I believe that Marco is one of the top 5 jazz/fusion/rock(ish) drummers alive today... I'm an old fart, and been a drummer for over 50 years. And while I could never compete with the likes of Mr. Minnemann, I DO know skills when I see them...Marco has got skills. He's got videos all over RUclips...check them out!!!
this guy makes me want to kill myself, knowing full well, that i will never reach such an amazing level in drumming. but fair fucking play! this is incredible.
You can use the "Audio EQ" Chrome Plugin ;) I use it all the time to filter nasty frequencies on youtube. Especially useful for longer videos like concerts to make it a lot easier on the ears on headphones
I love the sound of DW drums, but those Meinl Byzance series cymbals just sound like toy cymbals. Maybe it's just the way the mics are adjusted? Whatever the case, I liked the kit with the Zyldjian cymbals way better.
see...if you knew anything about professional musicians, you would know they don't have time to learn songs on a dare to post on youtube...if, however, you check out the more "technically" oriented guitar videos on my channel, I think that'll answer your question quite handily
John Lichtenberg I don't think it's bad, I actually quite like it. But personally I enjoy very complex music that goes all over the place.... 13/8 time signature here is a good representation of that haha. To each his own!
Don't misunderstand me if I say that Mike Mangini plays borring solos like a source of drumming robot. He is far better drummer than Portnoy. I think Marco Minneman could've be the best replasement for Mike Portnoy. Why? I is very important to work up your fillings or humor sence at drumming as well as playing awsome at the same time, enjoy yourself like it was for fun.Thing that Mike Mangini DOES NOT POSSES. Maybe Mangini was choosen becuse of chemistry.
They had good chemistry with Marco too. However, Marco wasn't a huge fan of DT unlike Mangini. That made the difference. Marco clarified it on an interview.
Mike Mangini played DT songs note for note. Minnemann CAN play them note for note but he actually wants to layer all kinds of other things and Petrucci said he was having trouble keeping up. Which is impressive in its own way
Diego Ruiz that is exactly what I wrote about on another Marco video. When I saw the auditions, it was clear that DT's decision as a band to choose Mangini, was based on personal reasons involving how well he clicked with the rest of the band
IMO he’s better. Buuut Mike Mangini was a better fit than Marco. He’s got the look, the skill, and the name. Marco definitely has the skill but not as big as mike is.
To reach this magnitude of drumming without "groove, soul, and feel" is simply wrong. You don't get that good without mastering all of those. Just because the rhythms are complex doesn't mean there is no feel. 1:40.
This doesn't match Gavin Harrison's or Steve Gadd's (etc) musicality, in my humble suck-drummer's opinion. But this was probably just a fun jam for Marco, it does look improvsed.
I would not like to always compare one drummer to another, because everyone has (of course I mean real drummers) their own style and a particular groove that always seems to spill it's way out. That's what makes each artist unique and special. Marco drums beautifully, and very intensely as well.
+Needles165 So fucking agreed. 99.9% don't give a fuck about his technical masturbation - people like listen to music which he doesn't play. Thomas Lang's foster brother.
He wanked through this entire video. I loved the studio version of every song on this DVD which was borderline chaotic already. But he tries so hard to show off in this DVD it turned me off to him forever. Doesn't help that he started making solo albums where he played every instrument and sang...and they are hoooooorrrrrible. Rip cool Marco.
Listen to the version of Scarified he did with Paul Gilbert, or his stuff with Steven Wilson on Hand. Cannot. Erase. That'll give you a better idea of his musical feel. Heads up: it's amazing.
This presents itself like a 1990s educational VHS. And I love it.
It was arround 1999 - 2001 time. His Live in LA dvd/vhs uses this setup and it was from 2001
If Zappa was alive today, he might give that man a call :-)
This dude is much out of Zappa's reach musically. Minus the black page Zappa didnt have very complex music
@@user-wh6sp6st8s That just isn't true.
@@Mincraftia100 to me Zappa sucks.. and music being subjective, is true
@@user-wh6sp6st8s I know enough Zappa and stuff Minnemann does. How can you conclude that? Explain. I am just curious.
@@Rondo2ooo and that's when he guy went silent
How in the world does this guy commit all that stuff to memory, let alone play it so flawlessly? Utterly, utterly incredible.
Insane.
Practice
A labor of love and passion plus enthusiasm.
This video was probably disliked by the kids who searched for "extreme drumming" and thought this one would be yet another one-dimensional 300BPM doublekicking, with endless blast beats and single stroke rolls. Instead, they found a progressive fusion jazz MONSTER, with impecable technique, chock-full of dynamics polyrhytmic playing with odd time signatures...and disliked it for not being able to yet comprehend what they saw.
:)
Marco is a drumming whiz. Awesome musicality
His "Blues Fuckers" solo is a masterpiece, my personal favourite
Absolutely true
Wouldn't call it uninteresting going fast and doing crazy shit becase those drummers are excellent in their own right but.... when i first started playing bass i would play to marco doing those solo videos and just try to keep up. I like them all why can't we all just be friends! lol
+kipster808 lol
I have been playing drums for 15 years ,after watching something like this ,my drums are for sale thanks Marco,your amazing....
*You’re
Keep playing.
Все хороши.
Но Томас Ланг ..сори круче
Never compare and believe in your skills and level.
Already at the auditions I thought Dream Theater was wrong. Now, I can say they were definitely wrong. Marco is superb.
Actually you're wrong here, Dream Theater were right in not choosing Marco Minneman coz he is at a level way too higher for them 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
@@shantanudhiman8194 I can definitely agree with that
I'm near certain the whole thing was just for attention. Even though they might not have told Mangini cause his reaction was pretty genuine. But I'm pretty sure they just brought all the other big names in just to get people to tune back in even though Portnoy left. Maybe not but like it would seem like an unbelievably obvious choice if it were real.
@@johnnybigmac5756 search for Thomas Lang's comment on the audition.
It's not about skill, he just doesn't vibe with the rest of the band
As a drummer, I can say this guy is one of the best I've ever heard. His rhythmic sense KICKS ASS! Never even heard about him until a few months ago, can't believe it.
This guy is beyond amazing!!!
Incredible. Simply incredible.
Can't believe that I was the drummer in a Reggae-band after he had left. This man is miles ahead. Respect where respect is due!!!
Proof that he is way ahead of this time! So Unique - and a great person!
He looks so different without the beard.
Luis Gutiérrez he still makes me laugh with those funny faces he makes when he changes up.
Perfect drummer for AC/DC
NO, perfect drummer for dream theater
No lmao perfect for aristocrats and Steven Wilson
Perfect drummer for The Aristocrats and Joe Satriani.
Actually lol-ed
Spirit hahaha :)
No solo el talento, sino la creatividad que le podría haber aportado a Dream Theater este muchacho.
He was young here, I remember buying this DVD in the music store. I cannot believe how good he was even at a younger age. Insane.
I can't even air drum like that!
The ultimate Zappa drummer: if only.
If Frank was still with us would say to him...."you're in da band"
Like he did with Steve Vai after teasing him...
Dream theater didnt deserve you.
PintoconLacras Honestly, I've been a Dream Theater for years and don't really like the new direction that they have taken. Feels too straightforward to me. Don't get me wrong, Mangini is a great player (probably better than Portnoy) but I feel like the band lost something in Portnoy.
Jared Fitzgerald First of all, Dream Theater lost a great composer, technique isn't all. And second, Portnoy have a groove that Mangini hasn't, seems like a midi version of Portnoy, plays really good but with less feeling. If the composition is based on velocity and technique results in music for musicians, and listen that music to enjoy ends in a great effort. SORRY about my English if something is wrong.
By the way... Minnemann + Steven Wilson is the perfect combination.
+PintoconLacras It's not like DT didn't want him.
Fuck you you peice of Mike portnoy shit
Colmill052 o
Marco, is a mad man, i've been playin drums a long time....got heros like Buddy Rich, Billy Cobham, Bill Bruford, Bonzo, Neil Peart, Dennis Chambers, then i found Marco......i am in AWE!!!....He's VERY special!!..hope he has a LONG carreer, so i may enjoy him fer years!!!
this is nothing short of amazing. love this guy's work!
Todos los días veo este video, es perfecto!
marco, you're an alien !
Marco's drumming is so dynamic with so many hits and he seems to have his own style from what I'm hearing what a great talent .
is incredible
I think i got it....the count is.... ...eleventeen,69,elevendy,0.5,16'2/3s,3 and half years old,1-2-buckle my shoe,-1,1+-1,balls,tree fidy,and one half quarter note of two thirty second note quadtriplet double standard hexatuplet number 2 poops over 3/4 56 single double buzz flutters x2
+tweevers2
NEVER would have got that !
Apart from the shoe buckling bit !
+Rob Warrilow It was tricky to figure out... I first thought it was 1 ,7 ,double elevendy sixpence a pocket full of rye but after the top underside bottom of the slantways ride groove came in I realized it was 1, 2 buckle my shoe
+tweevers2
Not onety,twoty, threety, pie n chips aplenty at all then !
tweevers2 That sounded like a Captain Beefheart song to me.
I once made Marco a cup of coffee. " How many sugars?" I asked. "Three" came the reply, " but I want you to add them to the coffee in 7/8 time, with accents on the 4 and the 7". He ended up wearing the fucking coffee, but I did manage to throw it at him in 3/4. By the way, this joke is easier to understand when accompanied by a click track.
Marco is a great drummer. Just listen to his work with Steven Wilson
Steven wilson, paul gilbert, Joe satriani, the aristocrats....
His stuff with Necrophagist was fucking sick too and the stuff with the aristocrats.
such an enjoyable experience to watch and listen, thanks.
Oh, old school editing...you never cease to amaze me...
To all guitarists out there this is shredding on drums!
you are truly the best drummer i have ever seen
BEAUTIFUL ENGINEERING AND MARCO"S PERFORMANCE- BRILLIANT
It's a pleasure to hear performance at this level, and a genre that raises music reminiscences heard only in the highest performances of all time.
compliments
And Marco wins the game.. Woooooooooot Drum Hero 2016
Marco is a fucking beast, Jeez this was fucking amazing...!!
This guy is such a joy to watch......stunning!!!
I had this dvd and played it on repeat for about 2 years lolx amazing drummer
"Hey, let's make a totally annoying song but absolutely slay on drums so no one can complain."
I guess that worked out pretty well haha.
Yep.
What song 🤣
Why so many persons dislike this guy? I don't understand. I'd like to play as he does!
what? no one dislike Marco.. is like the coolest person ever and one of the best drummers in the world
Where is writen "Mike Mangine is the best" on this video?
While being amazing technically like Lang does they are both mediocre musically. People don't listen technical etudes, they listen music.
I kinda agree for Thomas Lang, but I discovered Marco Minnemann with his work with Steven Wilson (some lives available on YT) and Guthrie Govan with the Aristocrats. Both projects very very musical :) Check it out!
MikroXdrums
i've heard Aristocrats - but i don't find them very interesting honestly. Marco's drumming there nothing particular - maybe i've heard the wrong songs? would be glad if you post a link on interesting stuff they play - i obviously could miss smth
This is unreal..!!! What a pleasure to watch!
Watch, yes! Listen to? Another story.
How could you not like this? Incredible
I don't think Mangini or Minneman, or even Harrison are any people any of us can say "I see nothing so and so can or can't do"....All three are just amazing musicians, none better than the other, just different. And thank god for that. Harrison has been my favorite drummer for quite a while now, and I have developed quite the love for Marco's playing. Mangini hasn't grown on me yet, but I still can't say any of them is better than the other. Keep up the amazing drumming gents, Cheers!
Well said
If Christian Bale knew how to play drums... I swear, the resemblance is uncanny. Also, nice look at his past endorsement with Meinl. Good times!
+Cameron Alidor Christian Bale actually learned some basic stuff pretty recently for a movie as far as I know :D
+scarabaeus Christian Bale is rather legendary for going above and beyond to get into character 😂
Well, it's an improvement from his Tom Green look.
i don’t get where you see this. the resemblance is like nonexistent lol
i couldnt see less christian bale if i tried. how do you see that lol? he looks more like aunt gemima than christian bale lol
Wow!! That drumming deserves some award winning excellence!!!!
Marco and Paul Gilbert are a match made in heaven. No two individuals have more fun playing music than them, also they're both absolute monsters in case that needed stating.
Best music for a romantic evening. Gets the girls in the mood right away 😂
94 people still trying to learn Barker's stuff xD Marco is one of the best drummers.
95. And it has nothing to do with his skills. Cause he obviously has those.
LMFAO!!! Anyone wanting to learn Barker's stuff obviously has no clue
Brilliant! Those metric modulations ❤
One of my all time faves.
Shredding of the highest order!!!!!!!!!
Love Marco's playing overall, though my favorite part of this particular video is from 4:05-4:10 simply because he hits that gong drum so many times lol. I love how that thing sounds! :D
I saw this guy up in West LA one time ..hes insane...and amazing personality very humble and friendly dude..I told my daddy, i wanna be like markos when I grw up
WOW never saw this holy cow!!!! and Happy Birthday too.
It sounds like Brand X
This dude is the bestest. Seriously. I've watched a ton of drummers and this guy is the cake that takes it. Sure, other guys are faster, but... Faster don't necessarily mean Better.
He can also play very fast just look for the live videos where he was playing for Necrophagist
+lolcano234 he said faster doesn't mean better
I think he is great, but would rather listen to Benny Greb. I just love Greb's pacing, grooves and tone.
Playing at odd time signatures also don't necessarily mean better
marco is massively talented in the musical setting too, not just technically. tony royster jr lol, not that great a drummer
IMHO, I believe that Marco is one of the top 5 jazz/fusion/rock(ish) drummers alive today... I'm an old fart, and been a drummer for over 50 years. And while I could never compete with the likes of Mr. Minnemann, I DO know skills when I see them...Marco has got skills. He's got videos all over RUclips...check them out!!!
Sheesh! He’s so darn good!
I’m working through his book, it’s challenging and fun!
Marco is the man!
this inspired me to stop playing the drums!
I run DW5000's too, mine sure don't seem to be that responsive!
one of my fav drummers
one of my favorite drummer
3:40 Somebody's a Haake fan
Daniel Calderon I think this video came out before Bleed
He's like Paul Gilbert on drums
oh the odd meters in each limb in mph is sooooooo amazingly fun to hear and watch performed... thank you for taking me on the trip...
I' ve met him in 1999 in Montreal drum fest got his autograph hes such a nice guy ground to eart, simple.. Génius !
He seems very chill. And that's nice!
this guy makes me want to kill myself, knowing full well, that i will never reach such an amazing level in drumming. but fair fucking play! this is incredible.
Excellent drumming video. But that excessive treble EQ boost on the entire video sounds horrible imo.
true...was wondering what was that sound
You can use the "Audio EQ" Chrome Plugin ;) I use it all the time to filter nasty frequencies on youtube. Especially useful for longer videos like concerts to make it a lot easier on the ears on headphones
Now for the real nerdy question. Which frequency was kicking my head off!?
5kHz
6kHz
3kHz
Or 4kHz?
Looks like we don't have any engineers in the group here. Not surprising.
i have the original dvd sound isnt much better. horrible sounding dvd but drumming is nuts.
Simply stunning
when the video finished i stare at the screen for a few seconds waiting for more... Your a beast Minnemann
But can he make it sound *good*?
Why would anyone want a china that high
Very Very Nice Drumming. Thnx. For Posting. Drums are cool
Amazing drumtechnic,love it!!!
札幌drummer
I love the sound of DW drums, but those Meinl Byzance series cymbals just sound like toy cymbals. Maybe it's just the way the mics are adjusted? Whatever the case, I liked the kit with the Zyldjian cymbals way better.
IF, you could find OLD K's (1950 issue) they are the ticket for sonic explosions and "shimmer".
Sounds awesome !
Ill never understand how dream theater passed up Marco and Lang. Baffles me.
Looks like Christian Bale in this video.
Haha! I think he always looks like Christian Bale.
the music itself is vomitous but my god...marco is such a monster player
see...if you knew anything about professional musicians, you would know they don't have time to learn songs on a dare to post on youtube...if, however, you check out the more "technically" oriented guitar videos on my channel, I think that'll answer your question quite handily
right...ok rick...whatever you say...
manifestgtr well, I for the record think the musicianship is really high level, but the music is fucking annoying and horrible and useless.
finally....someone who gets it...it's always nice on that rare occasion when you run into someone with an actual brain on youtube
John Lichtenberg
I don't think it's bad, I actually quite like it. But personally I enjoy very complex music that goes all over the place.... 13/8 time signature here is a good representation of that haha. To each his own!
I love watching him play.
Outstanding!
How does one remember all that?!
Jake Boggess I think there's a 20% improvvisation in there ..... but it's INSANE .... yes ...
The same way you remember thousands of words. You learn a little at a time, and over years, you have an active vocabulary at your fingertips.
They don't.
Thank God his talent wasn't wasted on Wank Theater.
Master class for sure!
He's amazing, and fun to watch
Yes he is!!!
he looks like Christian Bale here
Niccolò M. Nah in your mind perhaps ..
I thought the same :)
Exactly!
Acts like a psycho too😉
Don't misunderstand me if I say that Mike Mangini plays borring solos like a source of drumming robot. He is far better drummer than Portnoy. I think Marco Minneman could've be the best replasement for Mike Portnoy. Why? I is very important to work up your fillings or humor sence at drumming as well as playing awsome at the same time, enjoy yourself like it was for fun.Thing that Mike Mangini DOES NOT POSSES. Maybe Mangini was choosen becuse of chemistry.
They had good chemistry with Marco too. However, Marco wasn't a huge fan of DT unlike Mangini. That made the difference. Marco clarified it on an interview.
+Mark Joshua De Fiesta you're right man
Mike Mangini played DT songs note for note. Minnemann CAN play them note for note but he actually wants to layer all kinds of other things and Petrucci said he was having trouble keeping up. Which is impressive in its own way
Diego Ruiz that is exactly what I wrote about on another Marco video. When I saw the auditions, it was clear that DT's decision as a band to choose Mangini, was based on personal reasons involving how well he clicked with the rest of the band
IMO he’s better. Buuut Mike Mangini was a better fit than Marco. He’s got the look, the skill, and the name. Marco definitely has the skill but not as big as mike is.
Ridiculously good, and he gets a huge sound out of that tiny kick :)
Marco is a freak from another planet........crazy skills.
To reach this magnitude of drumming without "groove, soul, and feel" is simply wrong. You don't get that good without mastering all of those. Just because the rhythms are complex doesn't mean there is no feel. 1:40.
This doesn't match Gavin Harrison's or Steve Gadd's (etc) musicality, in my humble suck-drummer's opinion. But this was probably just a fun jam for Marco, it does look improvsed.
jijst5 Well he does drum for Steven Wilson's band anyway hahaha
try Eric Harland. that man knows rhythm every which way.
I would not like to always compare one drummer to another, because everyone has (of course I mean real drummers) their own style and a particular groove that always seems to spill it's way out. That's what makes each artist unique and special. Marco drums beautifully, and very intensely as well.
I dunno. Lars Ulrich is pretty universal suckass.
Jijst5 🙄 comments like yours. Nonsense
aaaahhhhh!!...just amazing!
Truly one of the best in the world!
That's some of the worst music I've ever heard. Drumming was fine.
That was surprisingly very annoying to listen to.
+Needles165 and i thought i was the only one. Might be technically very good and shit. but sounds awful as fuck.
+Needles165 So fucking agreed. 99.9% don't give a fuck about his technical masturbation - people like listen to music which he doesn't play. Thomas Lang's foster brother.
Needles165 let me guess what's good? Muse
He wanked through this entire video. I loved the studio version of every song on this DVD which was borderline chaotic already. But he tries so hard to show off in this DVD it turned me off to him forever. Doesn't help that he started making solo albums where he played every instrument and sang...and they are hoooooorrrrrible. Rip cool Marco.
stunning
Gracias Marco!!!
Technically superb. A billion notes per second. Every bar is a solo. Fantastic drummer. But no music!
Listen to the version of Scarified he did with Paul Gilbert, or his stuff with Steven Wilson on Hand. Cannot. Erase. That'll give you a better idea of his musical feel. Heads up: it's amazing.
It may not be lack of understanding in ALL cases. Just sayin' , as they say.
@@miguelkristonguitarairsoft lolllllll
best video from Minemann. one of the best drummers in the world.
I could watch this guy play for hours!
This is truly out of the world! Thomas Lang combined with Simon Philips.