Imagine the pressure sitting at a drum set auditioning, surrounded by the members of Dream Theater just staring you down judging every little nuance of your playing
@Aeternalis Armentarius my band teacher says I should apply to Berkeley, since I have the “chops”. I’ll be damned if I go to that communist breeding ground
@@Toleyshreds Bro aren't you confused on this one? There is UC Berkeley, which is a campus of University of California, and is supposed to be about as left-leaning as it gets, then there is Berklee College of Music, Boston, Massachusetts, where the founding members of DT attended. Besides, if you're gonna go somewhere, then just do it. Everyone has different politics and all universities around the world have a lot of vigorous debate. You can become a part of it or ignore it and focus on your studies. Don't let that hold you back if you think studying somewhere is going to help you in your career and life.
Why is this something to be celebrated? Good job on choosing to use a grip that is pointless and offers zero advantages? Good job on making your drum teacher proud?
@@ChiefSupreme6803 Okay, you humiliated the man, so I'm curious what you have to say about this whole audition thing. I'm guessing you have a lot more drumming experience than most of us poor people.
@@ChiefSupreme6803 He's the only one who plays like that among the other drummers. though he may not be the one who plays the best but he's unique and that matters too...
I am only commenting on the grip. I love his playing. The audition is cool but these specialized drummers seem to have little use to most popular musicians unless they simplify everything. I want to see the crazy solos. He might be too technical even for Dream Theater.
This is almost 10 years old, I know nothing about the band, nor the drummers, nor the genre of music...but very clearly the German guy in the Cookie Monster t-shirt was best.
Marco is an incredible drummer, and a lot of people will say that he should've gotten the job. If I were you I'd watch The Aristocrats - Boing, We'll Do It Live! concert (probably in the recommended videos for this video) for some crazy drumming!
In the end it was a contest between Mike Mangini and Marco. He was asked if he was ready to be employed full time, as DT is a "full time" project. He wasn't. He didn't want to commit 99.9% of his time to Dream Theater, so they went with Mangini. Minnemann was my favorite, too, by a long shot. In my opinion he would have been a breath of fresh air, as opposed to Mangini who is too similar in style to Portnoy, while also kinda worse overall (except for raw speed).
marco minnemann was DTs first choice, but they asked for exclusivity so he turned them down. I'm glad he did, he is a creative mind and a beast of a drummer that needs freedom to expand. i love him.
He personally said this to me after an Aristocrats concert many years ago. He wanted to keep doing his clinics and side projects, but DT wanted him exclusively.
Kinda weird that they had those stipulations given the nature of Portnoy's departure (and even he had lots of side projects, as do all the members of the band). Shame as Marco had the best feel - Mangini is good but I find his playing on the DT records to be stiff and robotic, and ADTOE aside his sound after that is mainly triggers.
@@ayanaminorei9072Was Marco in the Aristocrats at this point? The guy is such a crazy drummer, he toured with Necrophagist in addition to playing with Gilbert and Steven Wilson
@@RohannvanRensburgYes, this conversation happened after an Aristocrats concert that I attended. The band was hanging out with the fans and I had a chance to chat with Marco for 5 minutes or so. Really nice guy, as you can imagine.
Dream Theater covered Metallica while Metallica might be vaguely aware of who DT is Lars wrote good songs, something these guys will never understand All those years are Berklee learning technique but printing unlistenable music frustrates them That’s the difference
@@antonionovi1706 Exactly. They knew him well, he was proficient, willing and also a local guy, which is important logistically. Still, about half of DT's audience are guitarists and the second is drummers (real or air :D ), so they needed some kind of vehicle to try and keep the Portnoy fans. That was a pretty good ploy.
Individual artistry beats band chemistry, mainly Kevin Moore. They could have all average players with him it would be art rather than a stale circus act.
I think Mangini is the worst option regarding the musical feeling. I would've gone with Minemann. DT would simply write better music with him. Hell i stopped listening to DT after Mangini joined.
marco was wayy beyond, but goddamn those guy finished the song at 6:57 was WAYYY MORE, remind me of portnoy. just look the way hes kickin those bassdrum and that long hair. even myung was smiling !
They tried to hire Marco first. But Marco had just started with Guthrie and told them he wouldn’t be able to be exclusive to only DT. So Mangini got the job
I feel like I was watching the metal equivalent of Americas Got Talent. I kept waiting for Simon to come out and say "Your blast beats were trash, your timing was off, and you act like you're scared of the crash. Are you trying out for Avril Lavigne or Dream Theater? Its gonna be a no for me."
@WhoDarestheMAN gamer The thing about Marco that makes him so valuable is his outstanding musicality. Imho projects he's joined have suddenly become a level or two better - be it that one Plini EP he played on or the two Steven Wilson Albums etc.
@WhoDarestheMAN gamer Music is about music not how you can play in 22/8 and chop your rudiments all over the kit at 300bpm. Marco has a musicality that Lang doesn't have. Music always wins. Phil Collins can't do what Lang does but everyone remembers his drum parts and nobody will remember a single thing Lang has done.
@WhoDarestheMAN gamer No, re read carefully, i didn't say no musicality, i said Marco has musicality he doesn't. Reading is cool. Also, 'he would spank him' as if they're boxers or football teams. Music isn't a competition, but if it was, it would be judged on actual music and not drum chops, which is why you linking to this tuneless song that nobody would buy and listen to is an example that you're putting drum technicality over musicality. Good for you son. See everything Marco has done with Steven Wilson. Thanks for playing, bye.
@WhoDarestheMAN gamer "Marco has *a* musicality that Lang doesn't have." Learn to read and understand or go get checked to see if you're on the spectrum.
I’ll take Minnemann over Lang anyday. Lang is all flash not very much substance IMO. Great drummer but not on Minnemann’s level at all especially when you factor in musicality
Marco looks the most relaxed. When I watch him I actually think I would be able to sit down and play all that stuff - he makes it look as if it's that easy.
@@tested211 For him it is. Steven Wilson sent him for The Raven songs and Marco sent him drums parts back the next day. And I think it was even a New Year's Eve or so. SW was blown away. The recording sessions are here on YT where he mentions it.
I'm very happy Marco is where he is now. The playing in the Aristocrats is just on a level that fits Marco. That band communicates through notes to each other. Amazing to watch.
I saw Necrophagist live once in my life and Marco Minnemann was drummin for them. The entire venue stopped talking and were in awe when he dropped a massive 10 min drum solo on us. He's an animal. I love his style.
@@Conundrums._ I didn't say Mangini is bad. I've learned a lot from him. I just think Marco was a better fit for DT. But it's DT's decision. They probably didn't want someone who can steal their thunder.
I was at a Marco Minnemann workshop a few years ago, he said DT wanted him to become a full member but that meant no other bands and DT as his top priority. He didn't want that, so they went with Mangini instead.
@@Sebuguitar yup. saw them a week ago.. he grew on that band. Mangini is 10 times better than he was in this audition now and he still was one of the best in the audition
@@Sebuguitar mangini in this audition vs him live is very different... For this audition he turned it up to 11 ... Check out his recent live shows .. you'll know what I mean, he's good but sounds very... Mechanical I guess..
Not trying to discredit you or anything but maybe you misunderstood what Minnemann said? If anything, the guys probably knew that they wanted Mangini from the get go (roddy sorta confirmed this in an interview)
@@Retroman1 yeah, they wanted him to leave all his other projects to be in DT. He didn’t wanna leave his boys behind. Glad he did because we’d never have his new stuff.
Minneman said that he didn't wanted to be part of the band from the start, something along the lines that it wasn't his style, he just did it for the lols
@@goodbass123 The funniest part is Marco's video here wasn't even a real audition for the band that day. Jordan actually invited Marco to come jam with the band while they were doing tryouts, Marco said it would be really cool to be in the band, but had zero intentions of being in the band at all, he expressed that several times. He did an interview about it saying how they made his jam session with the band look like he auditioned for the band and he clearly didn't. He also told them to take his audition down because it wasn't an audition at all, they just made it seem like one and he wasn't happy about it.
They actually chose Marco first instead of Mike Mangini. But the new drummer had to sign a contract stipulating that they couldn't play in any other band except Dream Theater. So Marco turned down the offer because of that very reason. The second choice was Mike.
That's news to me about Marco being first pick, and turning down the gig!!! Thanks for the FYI. (Where did you get that information?) As a killer drummer myself, I thought Marco was clearly the most musical drummer, with no less chops. Plus, Marco seemed like a matter-of-fact guy, free of any egoentric tendecies. Mangini, on the other hand, acted like a 'drama queen' while waiting for the audition results. Bottom line, though, all the contestants did a great job at the audition.
@@JRM---516 I read it from Marco himself in an interview he's done. I tried to find it for you but it's been a while. You can read a lot of other interviews where he says basically the same thing. That he didn't really know any of DT songs before hand which just shows how freaking good of a drummer her is. Here is a similar part I found in an interview which isn't the same one but it pretty much sums it up. I mean, coming from the man himself. Pretty hard to deny right ? ''There might be something along those lines that we could collaborate, but if I had been in Dream Theater, I would have have to give up the most of my activities like The Aristocrats, which are my band and that’s my home''.
The reason I like Mike Mangini the best is because I no longer have to relearn the names of all the members. it's still Mike, James, John, John and Jordan
tbh, he is the best drummer in this video, but he's not who I would go with if I was them. IMO Mike Mangini and Marco fit them better. Thomas is a better drummer tho
Justin Laurente Yeah, i mean wouldn’t have been called to the audition if he would be a useless drummer. He just had a really bad day. Also he weren’t really used to their way of jamming and creating music collectively. He usually writes the music himself.
Definitely Marco Minnemann. But he wasn't chosen because the band asked him what songs if theirs he like and he couldn't name any lol. He's more of a session musician
Ryan Hosier Nah, more like he was there just to punk DT that their songs are pieces of cake for him lol. Trust me he went there just to humiliate those guys that he's easily the best drummer around fundamentally and technically. I don't think he was serious about getting the job at DT lol 😆
they picked mike mangini because he is technically an amazing drummer and he didn't make any mistakes,he is a smart drummer.For me mike mangini is the best for dream theater
Reyna Mae Maranga Is that why he sounds like a drum machine? If that's what DT needs they might as well just program the drums with Superior Drummer or something. The best for DT is still Portnoy.
Dude my eyes lit up when i saw Derek roddy then was totally let down they didn't like him but i mean he said himself hes primarily an extreme metal drummer and didn't really prepare. Hes still awesome though.
I'm pretty sure the audio wasn't captured properly from that audition, so - unlike the others - we're hearing the audio from the camera. You think it wasn't loud as fuck with those other drummers? It would have sounded just as overpowering standing there; but DT are using in-ear monitors, so they get the balance they want.
Probably one of the most interesting "reality shows". All the guys auditioning are insanely skilled. And there's just no way you can just "wing it" auditioning for DT.
+rudessdfdf And cause he's also boring and tasteless. No feel or emotion, all tech. Also implying that Mike, Virgil and Marco aren't monsters. Eh... at least those 4 are all better than Portnoy haha
Thomas Lang is like a drumming terminator sent from the future to break sticks like twigs and crush DW 9000 pedals with his ultrafast double-bass technique. Love that guy!
I think if not Mangini...Wildoer would have been my choice...very smooth and easy yet powerful and right on cue...there others were much too choppy in their transitioning to play as an ensemble with DT. Mangini and Wildoer had the best flow and fit right in there...
I really think they screwed up picking Mangini, as fine of a drummer as he is. I just think that Marco is what they needed to inject some soul back into the band's music. I haven't heard anything I like from them since Portnoy left, and I've really tried. Mangini can play anything, but he plays it like a robot. I know that's cliche now, but it's true.
marco was wayy beyond, but goddamn those guy finished the song at 6:57 was WAYYY MORE, remind me of portnoy. just look the way hes kickin those bassdrum and that long hair. even myung was smiling !
Erik MetalyRock Lmao you're offened or what? Everyone was aware Marco was one of the best drummers in the world, even far greater than Mike Portnoy. Marco went to audition just to punk the band that their songs were too easy for him. He fucking nailed it without even trying. DT knew Marco was meant for something greater than this. Marco drumming skill is far superior than to play with DT. The band would hold him back.
Nor Priest Marco maybe technically superior to portnoy. But portnoy's creativity far exceeds anyone imo. Also Petrucci and Rudess are regarded as some of the best muscians for their instruments and DT is extremely technical I don't think anyone is too good for DT
Cameron5540 Virgil is more of a session drummer and traditionally more of a "light touch" player. He's an incredible drummer and it was cool to see him play DT but it's definitely not his style. They are right not to pick him for the gig.
He's not very good at proggy stuff, he himself has said it a couple times. However, he's a remarkable metal drummer with some good ideas for fills. Also the dude is freakishly strong. I've once attended one of his drum clinics and it was like a freaking earthquake.
A cookie monster shirt at an audition? Just implies he's a goofball. He doesn't look right for this band. It was Mangini all the time. This music blows anyway.
@@vintagemxer9165 You realize the cookie monster guy had bigger talent than all those fuckheads. Sure he won't stay with DT cuz he knows he's too good for the band 😆
I would love to see Marco in dt, he would bring something very different than mangini. If you watch his stuff, this man doesn't stop trying to improve, he just keeps getting better
The best was Virgil, but Mike sounded more like DT all the way. When you have a band like Dream Theater is important to sound similar to what the fans are used to.
there's no question. Mangini is certainly great, but he's not like Marco Minneman. And the fact that we could have had a Dream Theater with Marco Minneman, and now we don't, makes me depressed.
I'm not a drummer, I don't know who's the best. All seem talented but after watching all the guys, I have to say I loved Minnemann's drumming, flawless and super energetic!!
If he was REALLY humble, he would not have even tried to get into the DT... Mike Mangini simply toyed with the songs as if they were easy, deserved the spot!
Cristian Nunes sure, decline the chance to play with the best band in the world simply because every other drummer in the audition is better than you. Smart.
It's wild to see Thomas Lang auditioning for anything lol the guy can quite literally play anything and is easily one of the best drummers of all time. Thomas and Marco were never getting chosen though. They had way too many side gigs going on.
Jeremy Johnson I’m sure it was the right choice for him, but damn I would have loved to hear a DT album with Marco Minneman on drums, next level creativity....
@@djjazzyjeff1232 maybe if you were just some random off the street but these are all recognized professionals with nothing to prove to anybody, just seeing if their styles mesh well.
@@djjazzyjeff1232 Marco could wear a pink lace bra and not one musician would say a damn thing. He is a drummer, one of the greatest on the planet. His cookie monster shirt is fitting when trying out for this Olympic bs. Cookie monster> V neck all day everyday, he was the best drummer auditioning, he turned the spot down. Bow to cookie monster immediately
My favorite drummer out of these guys is Marco . He is a very musical and a Creative drummer , Just listen to him on Steven Wilson's Raven that Refused to Sing . He brought so much to that album . but still I think Mike Mangini was the fit for DT .
I remember seeing Mangini as the first one to audition and thought, how is anyone going to top that? Then I seen Marco, and thought, holy crap he is bad ass! This was the first time I heard Marco and have been a fan ever since. He’s just incredible!
Imagine the pressure sitting at a drum set auditioning, surrounded by the members of Dream Theater just staring you down judging every little nuance of your playing
uh yeah can u say bugging out
Especially since these guys are some of the best on the planet. Two berkeley students who know the craft in and out. Terrifying
@@Toleyshreds Mike Mangini had it easy, he was a teacher at Berkeley!
@Aeternalis Armentarius my band teacher says I should apply to Berkeley, since I have the “chops”. I’ll be damned if I go to that communist breeding ground
@@Toleyshreds Bro aren't you confused on this one? There is UC Berkeley, which is a campus of University of California, and is supposed to be about as left-leaning as it gets, then there is Berklee College of Music, Boston, Massachusetts, where the founding members of DT attended.
Besides, if you're gonna go somewhere, then just do it. Everyone has different politics and all universities around the world have a lot of vigorous debate. You can become a part of it or ignore it and focus on your studies. Don't let that hold you back if you think studying somewhere is going to help you in your career and life.
Massive props to Virgil for playing Dream Theater with TRADITIONAL GRIP!!!
Why is this something to be celebrated? Good job on choosing to use a grip that is pointless and offers zero advantages? Good job on making your drum teacher proud?
@@ChiefSupreme6803get lost kid
@@ChiefSupreme6803 Okay, you humiliated the man, so I'm curious what you have to say about this whole audition thing. I'm guessing you have a lot more drumming experience than most of us poor people.
@@ChiefSupreme6803 He's the only one who plays like that among the other drummers. though he may not be the one who plays the best but he's unique and that matters too...
I am only commenting on the grip. I love his playing. The audition is cool but these specialized drummers seem to have little use to most popular musicians unless they simplify everything. I want to see the crazy solos. He might be too technical even for Dream Theater.
This is almost 10 years old, I know nothing about the band, nor the drummers, nor the genre of music...but very clearly the German guy in the Cookie Monster t-shirt was best.
Marco is an incredible drummer, and a lot of people will say that he should've gotten the job. If I were you I'd watch The Aristocrats - Boing, We'll Do It Live! concert (probably in the recommended videos for this video) for some crazy drumming!
In the end it was a contest between Mike Mangini and Marco. He was asked if he was ready to be employed full time, as DT is a "full time" project. He wasn't. He didn't want to commit 99.9% of his time to Dream Theater, so they went with Mangini.
Minnemann was my favorite, too, by a long shot. In my opinion he would have been a breath of fresh air, as opposed to Mangini who is too similar in style to Portnoy, while also kinda worse overall (except for raw speed).
Hard to compare these guys but Thomas Lang is one of the greatest drummers of all time. His solos are insane.. Marco is up there too though.
+1
What made him the best?
marco minnemann was DTs first choice, but they asked for exclusivity so he turned them down. I'm glad he did, he is a creative mind and a beast of a drummer that needs freedom to expand. i love him.
source ?..
He personally said this to me after an Aristocrats concert many years ago. He wanted to keep doing his clinics and side projects, but DT wanted him exclusively.
Kinda weird that they had those stipulations given the nature of Portnoy's departure (and even he had lots of side projects, as do all the members of the band). Shame as Marco had the best feel - Mangini is good but I find his playing on the DT records to be stiff and robotic, and ADTOE aside his sound after that is mainly triggers.
@@ayanaminorei9072Was Marco in the Aristocrats at this point? The guy is such a crazy drummer, he toured with Necrophagist in addition to playing with Gilbert and Steven Wilson
@@RohannvanRensburgYes, this conversation happened after an Aristocrats concert that I attended. The band was hanging out with the fans and I had a chance to chat with Marco for 5 minutes or so. Really nice guy, as you can imagine.
They should have invited Lars to try, just for laughs
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yeah, and then Lars should ask to compare the albums sold and the respective stories... you know ... to laugh a little
He'd still be sitting outside the audition room, because he wouldn't know when to come in...
@@graemepatterson This joke should be at the top
Dream Theater covered Metallica while Metallica might be vaguely aware of who DT is
Lars wrote good songs, something these guys will never understand
All those years are Berklee learning technique but printing unlistenable music frustrates them
That’s the difference
Biggest lesson from this: band chemistry beats individual virtuosity all day.
I think this was only a promotional show and Mangini was already choosen.
@@antonionovi1706 Exactly. They knew him well, he was proficient, willing and also a local guy, which is important logistically. Still, about half of DT's audience are guitarists and the second is drummers (real or air :D ), so they needed some kind of vehicle to try and keep the Portnoy fans. That was a pretty good ploy.
Not only that, but Marco had some extra demands and the band didn't it. Marco was by far the best drummer ofc
Individual artistry beats band chemistry, mainly Kevin Moore. They could have all average players with him it would be art rather than a stale circus act.
Same hapenned with Trujillo in Metallica....
Best for the band: Mangini.
Best overall: Minnemann.
I think Mangini is the worst option regarding the musical feeling. I would've gone with Minemann. DT would simply write better music with him. Hell i stopped listening to DT after Mangini joined.
well, i think minnemann is the best for the band and best overall...
Y'think? I think he'd be bored really quick playing with DT.
I think the same..
Mangini have played with them way before the audition, so they wanted him
3:22 Drummers when the guitarist is tuning
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Laughing so hard it made me cough
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I do it all the time !
😂😂😂😂 Facts!! It never fails!! Hahaha ❤This!!!
I just love how Marco showed up in a fucking cookiemonster shirt
He’s that cool
Yes!
Marco definitley allows his playing to speak for him...he's a different kind for sure
they could have ventured to satanic reggae prog genre with him and still have the smiles
I hate how he dresses
Last drummer made John Myung smile....he should be the chosen one. He's made the impossible... .
marco was wayy beyond, but goddamn those guy finished the song at 6:57 was WAYYY MORE, remind me of portnoy. just look the way hes kickin those bassdrum and that long hair. even myung was smiling !
@Reed Tard mike mangini. damn you never heard of dream teather do u ?
Ya. He's also one of the three that the band considers to hire.
They tried to hire Marco first. But Marco had just started with Guthrie and told them he wouldn’t be able to be exclusive to only DT. So Mangini got the job
@@jeremyjohnson9222 How did you know?
At 3:57 it took me a few seconds to realize that "Necrophagist" was the band he played with, and not one of his hobbies
XD
LMAOO
Kinkshaming IS NOT OK!
Lmao
Im dying!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Mangini: Black shirt
Lang: Black Shirt
Roddy: Black shirt
Marco: CooKiE MoNSteR!!👁👄👁
The reason Marco got rejected
Marco go
@@ichalmeong7071 marco rejected DT actually
@@illidanstr8402 He did? Cause I thought he was the best by far and would have been the best fit by far
Marco is with a better band now, The Aristocrats
I feel like I was watching the metal equivalent of Americas Got Talent. I kept waiting for Simon to come out and say "Your blast beats were trash, your timing was off, and you act like you're scared of the crash. Are you trying out for Avril Lavigne or Dream Theater? Its gonna be a no for me."
This is an amazing idea
😂
LMFAO!!!!!!!!
Randy Jackson: “it’s a no from me dawg”
Benny greb?
Minnemann is the type of drummer every band could pray for. Such a master!
@WhoDarestheMAN gamer The thing about Marco that makes him so valuable is his outstanding musicality. Imho projects he's joined have suddenly become a level or two better - be it that one Plini EP he played on or the two Steven Wilson Albums etc.
@WhoDarestheMAN gamer Music is about music not how you can play in 22/8 and chop your rudiments all over the kit at 300bpm. Marco has a musicality that Lang doesn't have. Music always wins.
Phil Collins can't do what Lang does but everyone remembers his drum parts and nobody will remember a single thing Lang has done.
@WhoDarestheMAN gamer No, re read carefully, i didn't say no musicality, i said Marco has musicality he doesn't.
Reading is cool.
Also, 'he would spank him' as if they're boxers or football teams. Music isn't a competition, but if it was, it would be judged on actual music and not drum chops, which is why you linking to this tuneless song that nobody would buy and listen to is an example that you're putting drum technicality over musicality. Good for you son.
See everything Marco has done with Steven Wilson.
Thanks for playing, bye.
@WhoDarestheMAN gamer "Marco has *a* musicality that Lang doesn't have."
Learn to read and understand or go get checked to see if you're on the spectrum.
I’ll take Minnemann over Lang anyday. Lang is all flash not very much substance IMO. Great drummer but not on Minnemann’s level at all especially when you factor in musicality
marco is so badass that he can rip through one of the most complex songs in progressive rock/metal history wearing a cookie monster tshirt
Marco looks the most relaxed. When I watch him I actually think I would be able to sit down and play all that stuff - he makes it look as if it's that easy.
@@tested211 For him it is. Steven Wilson sent him for The Raven songs and Marco sent him drums parts back the next day. And I think it was even a New Year's Eve or so. SW was blown away. The recording sessions are here on YT where he mentions it.
He is a living and uderratted drummer legend of current generation .. but his style is lot different than DT's style
When I saw Marco playing dance of eternity he was fucking killing it
All of these drummers can play anything DT might throw at them with ease.
I'm very happy Marco is where he is now. The playing in the Aristocrats is just on a level that fits Marco. That band communicates through notes to each other. Amazing to watch.
I'm happy too! I think Mangini fits very well in DT.... that's life ... if you didn't succeed with DT it works with Kreator or Necrophagist:))
Better than Dream Theater!
True. Marco is too good for DT back then and especially now.
He needed to be somewhere where he can improvise
@@rlnwvr calm down
They chose Mangini because they already had "MIKE" stenciled on some of the equipment.
LMAO, best reason truly.
Jajajajajaja true true
Lmfao 😅👌
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Lol coud be...still i think it is because he was a teacher...
I saw Necrophagist live once in my life and Marco Minnemann was drummin for them.
The entire venue stopped talking and were in awe when he dropped a massive 10 min drum solo on us.
He's an animal. I love his style.
Robert Walsh God that was a match made in heaven. Still waiting on that new Necrophagist album🤣🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀
Fuckin NECROPHAGIST! Yes!
Indeed Marco is totally Amazing...
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Saw him with kreator, same thing.
@@MPrint67 well my friend we are on the same boat but I guess we will turn old until it comes...
Top 3:
1. Marco Minnemann
2. Thomas Lang
3. Mike Mangini
Yeah man i repport. To me Thomas lang would be the drummer and not being possible he would be marco minemann.
Yeah minnemann would have been suc ha good fit for them
Iskalder I’m really glad they didn’t pick him. He blew my mind seeing him play with the Aristocrats.
And Donati?
minnemann
lang
donati
imho
Mike Mangini is a Good drummer, but that guy Marco just put everything into it, and he was so happy and energetic!
Yep. That dude is incredible. I like the accidental trick at the end of Scarified with Paul Gilbert. ruclips.net/video/yfXeO_Ff_Wc/видео.html
Man, mangini just acting here! Cause he's a totally robot!! Any of the other drummers will be ok. I don't hear DT since Mangini was joined.
@@bulloozer5552 Mangini is one of the most robotic drummers on earth. There’s a lot a people who don’t realize how good he is.
@@Conundrums._ I didn't say Mangini is bad. I've learned a lot from him. I just think Marco was a better fit for DT. But it's DT's decision. They probably didn't want someone who can steal their thunder.
@@bulloozer5552 the reason why is Bc DT wanted him to be full time DT and he didn’t want to
John Myung's level of silence
But laughed at Wildoer Performance!
Irene .W. Isn’t that a John Myung composition?
He didn't want to be dishonorabuuu
I was at a Marco Minnemann workshop a few years ago, he said DT wanted him to become a full member but that meant no other bands and DT as his top priority. He didn't want that, so they went with Mangini instead.
I loved MAngini in this, idk how ppl can rate him the worst out of them all... He was really living and feeling it
@@Sebuguitar yup. saw them a week ago.. he grew on that band. Mangini is 10 times better than he was in this audition now and he still was one of the best in the audition
@@Sebuguitar mangini in this audition vs him live is very different... For this audition he turned it up to 11 ... Check out his recent live shows .. you'll know what I mean, he's good but sounds very... Mechanical I guess..
Not trying to discredit you or anything but maybe you misunderstood what Minnemann said? If anything, the guys probably knew that they wanted Mangini from the get go (roddy sorta confirmed this in an interview)
He's a liar
I feel like Marco would've put some sense of humor back into that band
All these years and i still think they should have picked Marco
Agreed
They did. He turned them down...
@@jordy2x_ really? That's so interesting.
@@Retroman1 yeah, they wanted him to leave all his other projects to be in DT. He didn’t wanna leave his boys behind. Glad he did because we’d never have his new stuff.
Minneman said that he didn't wanted to be part of the band from the start, something along the lines that it wasn't his style, he just did it for the lols
The dude who played for paul gilbert kind of looks like paul gilbert
thereal MCPM at least two of the drummers played with Paul
ironblud Cool. I’m talking about the one that looks like him.
@@ironblud he's talking about Marco
His in Aristocrats now. With the great guitarist Guthrie Govan.
Truest of the true
0:08 Mike Mangini
1:58 Thomas Lange
2:46 Derek Roddy
3:29 Virgil Donati
3:57 Marco Minnemann
5:25 Aquiles Priester
6:15 Peter Wildoer
What is the name of the song marco plays?
@@goodbass123 A Nightmare To Remember by Dream Theater
Qq
What name intro song for Aquiles priester ?
@@goodbass123 The funniest part is Marco's video here wasn't even a real audition for the band that day. Jordan actually invited Marco to come jam with the band while they were doing tryouts, Marco said it would be really cool to be in the band, but had zero intentions of being in the band at all, he expressed that several times. He did an interview about it saying how they made his jam session with the band look like he auditioned for the band and he clearly didn't. He also told them to take his audition down because it wasn't an audition at all, they just made it seem like one and he wasn't happy about it.
THOMAS LANG..ABSOLUTELY..CLEAN..PERFECT..SIMPLE..BEAUTY
virgil too, es a drummer from not around here
They actually chose Marco first instead of Mike Mangini. But the new drummer had to sign a contract stipulating that they couldn't play in any other band except Dream Theater. So Marco turned down the offer because of that very reason. The second choice was Mike.
Does it include also that they can't make solo albums like the guitar players most do??? Just curious.
@@さぼせんぱい I do not know the answer about solo album. I do know that it involved other « projects ». So I don’t know.
That's news to me about Marco being first pick, and turning down the gig!!! Thanks for the FYI. (Where did you get that information?) As a killer drummer myself, I thought Marco was clearly the most musical drummer, with no less chops. Plus, Marco seemed like a matter-of-fact guy, free of any egoentric tendecies. Mangini, on the other hand, acted like a 'drama queen' while waiting for the audition results. Bottom line, though, all the contestants did a great job at the audition.
@@JRM---516 I read it from Marco himself in an interview he's done. I tried to find it for you but it's been a while. You can read a lot of other interviews where he says basically the same thing. That he didn't really know any of DT songs before hand which just shows how freaking good of a drummer her is. Here is a similar part I found in an interview which isn't the same one but it pretty much sums it up. I mean, coming from the man himself. Pretty hard to deny right ? ''There might be something along those lines that we could collaborate, but if I had been in Dream Theater, I would have have to give up the most of my activities like The Aristocrats, which are my band and that’s my home''.
@No No TRUUEE LOL
The reason I like Mike Mangini the best is because I no longer have to relearn the names of all the members. it's still Mike, James, John, John and Jordan
Strange reason : it s a joke maybe
NSA RUHERE no, he means it
RockandMetal645 might be the same reason why the band chose him.
RockandMetal645 might be the same reason why the band chose him.
Derek of course, they already had the tshirts with those names hahahaha
Thomas Lang, the Cristiano Ronaldo of drumming. So mechanical, a machine like beast
Messi Matt Garska sorry.
Seriously there’s no other drummer that is more respectable than Thomas lang
@@zackbetterton489 I agree. However check El Estepario Siberiano. There's something coming up.
@@diegopelozo2679 LOL Messi is better than Ronaldo, and Thomas Lang is better than Matt Garska
tbh, he is the best drummer in this video, but he's not who I would go with if I was them. IMO Mike Mangini and Marco fit them better. Thomas is a better drummer tho
nice,when are they gonna do vocalists auditions?
+mrhungrybutawesome this made me lol, probably when JP and JM left the band
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaaaahahahahahahahahahaHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAHAHAHAHHA
+mrhungrybutawesome You nailed it man !!!!
+mrhungrybutawesome hahahahaha whens the NEXT drummer audition? they chose the wrong one
lollll 😂😂😂😂
Marco is crazy good... brilliant musician with tons of energy.
Lang is better.
Holy shit! That was a bunch of really good drummers!
That was my takeaway
YES!
Its a shame the music is so shit because they are incredible drummer's
I feel bad for Priester. He fucked up really bad on that one.
Justin Laurente Yeah, i mean wouldn’t have been called to the audition if he would be a useless drummer. He just had a really bad day. Also he weren’t really used to their way of jamming and creating music collectively. He usually writes the music himself.
Definitely Marco Minnemann. But he wasn't chosen because the band asked him what songs if theirs he like and he couldn't name any lol. He's more of a session musician
what did he think of kreator then?
Ryan Hosier
Nah, more like he was there just to punk DT that their songs are pieces of cake for him lol.
Trust me he went there just to humiliate those guys that he's easily the best drummer around fundamentally and technically. I don't think he was serious about getting the job at DT lol 😆
they picked mike mangini because he is technically an amazing drummer and he didn't make any mistakes,he is a smart drummer.For me mike mangini is the best for dream theater
Captain Falcon Marco Minnemann young? He's 47 years old :)
Reyna Mae Maranga Is that why he sounds like a drum machine? If that's what DT needs they might as well just program the drums with Superior Drummer or something. The best for DT is still Portnoy.
Virgil’s flare is stunning. I’ve been blown away by listening to his chops since the late 80’s. There’s a film loosely based on his experience.
And his foot chops are KILLER. Everyone forgets he has AMAZING kick work.
Who?
I love Marco, his vibes are so damn good, but all these drummers seem like great dudes and great players.
he would honestly be lowering himself by joining dream theater
😂 blast beats so loud that you can’t hear anyone else.
Dude my eyes lit up when i saw Derek roddy then was totally let down they didn't like him but i mean he said himself hes primarily an extreme metal drummer and didn't really prepare. Hes still awesome though.
@@rsaldivar8 What Derek Roddy did is just a shame! No DT song need blastbeats....
@@stripedfrog1122 yeah i know i just like Derek roddy thats all
@@rsaldivar8 same reaction lol. Although you KNOW it's never gonna go together, you just want to see it unfold
@@stripedfrog1122 maybe it was just a jam moment
Derek was gone the moment he started doing blast-beats.
You can't be louder than the egos hiring you.
I'm a huge fan of his drumming but in this video I was like WHAT THE FUCK IS HE DOING
I didn't think someone could be louder than Mike P lol
I'm pretty sure the audio wasn't captured properly from that audition, so - unlike the others - we're hearing the audio from the camera. You think it wasn't loud as fuck with those other drummers? It would have sounded just as overpowering standing there; but DT are using in-ear monitors, so they get the balance they want.
Embarrassing for sure.
I legit started bursting out laughing when that part happened. His loud ass blast beats just drowning the entire band out lmao.
take it away Marcoooooooo
*Scarified starts playing*
a true Kreator
@
Егор Клёнов лол, час назад смотрел твоё видео по baldur's gate :) интернет тесен
Man, this reference made me laugh so much.
Necrophagist :'(
I'm so glad I got the chance to see Marco live with the aristocrats last month, such a phenomenal drummer!
5:01 Damn Christian bale and his method acting
His German accent is phenomenal. Even better than his American accent in American Psycho imo.
i mean ruclips.net/video/i7OfuoyFL00/видео.html
The dark knight
Or.. could this be Michael Cera from the future?
I'm so glad that Marco didn't get it, he's in a better place now, with Steven Wilson and Guthrie Govan.
+Wecu Snow - Exactly what I said! The Aristocrats are so fricken good! Guthrie is amazing and needs a drummer like Marco.
+Wecu Snow Never thought of it that way !
+Wecu Snow who is the drummer for dream theater ..?? who they selected??
rabin rai mike mangini
i totally agree with you. At least Steven is releasing great music
fucking Marco with the Cookie monster shirt to a band audition. Classic Marco
it's joke like your profile
How did you get here lmao
Probably one of the most interesting "reality shows". All the guys auditioning are insanely skilled. And there's just no way you can just "wing it" auditioning for DT.
4:00 "what shirt should I put on for the interview?" "Fuck it, throw on the cookie monster one" LMAOOOOOOO
Lmao comment made my day
That's exactly the reason why he didn't get the part
@@tomasferminades9536 yeah he should've just worn a Big Bird t shirt instead.
@@tomasferminades9536 he didn't get the part because DT are dickheads and they wanted a drum machine.
@@bobajanfettsolo9143 They completely missed on Marco. He has way more soul and creativity
Fell in love with wearing the cookie monster shirt to that serious audition. Cool guy!
they didnt take Lang , cause they were scare of him.... he is the real monster.
rudessdfdf agree
rudessdfdf druminator
rudessdfdf thomas lang rapes drums.
rudessdfdf He's a power-hose.
+rudessdfdf And cause he's also boring and tasteless. No feel or emotion, all tech. Also implying that Mike, Virgil and Marco aren't monsters. Eh... at least those 4 are all better than Portnoy haha
I've seen once Marco playing for Kreator. God it was amazing, that guy tooks everything to another level.
Thomas Lang is like a drumming terminator sent from the future to break sticks like twigs and crush DW 9000 pedals with his ultrafast double-bass technique. Love that guy!
Haha exactly what i thought :'D
Druminator
Hell yeah Thomas is awesome
Neil oh come on!
Neil shut up
Marco Minnemann is a TITAN of drums!
Marvelous energy...
Am I the only one who loved Peter Wildoer? really great playing and tone
No man. His work in James Labrie Project was absolutely phenomenal. I respect him for his foot work \\m//
No! Peter is my favourite, what a great drummer!!!
One of the Best! among Marco and Thomas. Monster! Salute and Respect!
I think if not Mangini...Wildoer would have been my choice...very smooth and easy yet powerful and right on cue...there others were much too choppy in their transitioning to play as an ensemble with DT. Mangini and Wildoer had the best flow and fit right in there...
I'm with you ... Wildoer was amazing - my personal fav.
When Marco plays... it just *HITS* different.
What is the 2 nd song of marcos??
@@sabbirahmed-uu5nr Doesn't matter, it won't sound as good without Marco playing it.
I really think they screwed up picking Mangini, as fine of a drummer as he is. I just think that Marco is what they needed to inject some soul back into the band's music. I haven't heard anything I like from them since Portnoy left, and I've really tried.
Mangini can play anything, but he plays it like a robot. I know that's cliche now, but it's true.
3:17 -- > Haha his blast beats :D "dagdagdagdagdagdag!" not sure that was what they were looking for :p
i think Roddy knew he wasn't getting the gig so just showed what he can do, although there is a blastbeat in nightmare to remember
he really didn't belong in that audition haha
one of the songs had that beat so im pretty sure thats what they were looking for
LOL 😂
That’s what a blast beat is ..
All these guys are incredible, but it’s Virgil for me. Slayed it, with traditional grip!
It's like Carl Palmer playing for Queensryche. Talented but not for them.
its 2020 and god knows how many times ive watched this video, never gets old !!
Thank you MM! 🙌🏽
Marco Minnemann has Portnoy's vibe. I vote for him but who cares )))
agree, I was pulling for Marco...he has way more feel
marco was wayy beyond, but goddamn those guy finished the song at 6:57 was WAYYY MORE, remind me of portnoy. just look the way hes kickin those bassdrum and that long hair. even myung was smiling !
also extra points for the shirt
You know you're a freak drummer when you're too good for DT. Hats off to Minneman.
He's not too good for DT smh
Erik MetalyRock
Lmao you're offened or what?
Everyone was aware Marco was one of the best drummers in the world, even far greater than Mike Portnoy.
Marco went to audition just to punk the band that their songs were too easy for him. He fucking nailed it without even trying. DT knew Marco was meant for something greater than this. Marco drumming skill is far superior than to play with DT. The band would hold him back.
Nor Priest okay
Yeah, but they just needed a drummer for DT, nothing more.
XD
Nor Priest Marco maybe technically superior to portnoy. But portnoy's creativity far exceeds anyone imo. Also Petrucci and Rudess are regarded as some of the best muscians for their instruments and DT is extremely technical I don't think anyone is too good for DT
I almost feel like DT wanted Mangini in the first place, but just wanted to make shure he's the guy so they held an audition...
Yeah I agree
Yup
Nice one. You made world class drummers seem like big brother contestants. It's emabrrasing.
6:51.... great arrangment, Myung loved it!, he smiled ...
There are even rumors he once spoke. But I guess that's just another legend around myung
What song is this tho?
6:07 not quite my tempo
😂😂😂 I get the reference
I thought the same when I saw Rudess's face
Damn I didnt even notice that at first. How did i not see that lmao
dude wanted to up the tempo
*_ARE YOU RUSHING OR ARE YOU DRAGGING???_*
Virgil donati was my favorite, playing stuff like that the way he was holding the stick just looks super awesome
Check the young new drummer of Angra : Bruno Valverde, looking foward.
I was really surprised to see a Metal drummer hold traditional grip.
Virgil Donati is not a metal drummer. He is a much more allround player. Watch some of his videos.
Cameron5540 Virgil is more of a session drummer and traditionally more of a "light touch" player. He's an incredible drummer and it was cool to see him play DT but it's definitely not his style. They are right not to pick him for the gig.
Virgil used to be in a DT cover band, i cant figure out how its definitely not his style...
The amount of musical joy while playing says it all. This guy was having fun and I think we all had fun watching him play , winner for me
they are all excellent... must be a pain in the ass to chose
Thomas Lang is levels upon levels beyond the others. He just doesn't have the hair.
This
or the time to learn a song...
He was my favorite too, the dynamics man.
The best of them all refused to go! Check out Bobby Jarzombek!
No, but you're about the hair
6:04
I feel bad, you can see the pain in his eyes
Man, I felt so bad for him. The work that guy did on Angra was amazing, I was hoping he could get into DT.
He's not very good at proggy stuff, he himself has said it a couple times. However, he's a remarkable metal drummer with some good ideas for fills. Also the dude is freakishly strong. I've once attended one of his drum clinics and it was like a freaking earthquake.
All these drummers are just insanely amazing.
Cookie monster guy shoulda won. Mangini wasn't bad but, for sure not better
he did win but he didnt want to leave his other bands and Dream Theater wanted a full commitment
A cookie monster shirt at an audition? Just implies he's a goofball. He doesn't look right for this band. It was Mangini all the time. This music blows anyway.
Who gives a shit what his personality is? As long as he's not a dick, which he clearly isn't.
@@vintagemxer9165
You realize the cookie monster guy had bigger talent than all those fuckheads.
Sure he won't stay with DT cuz he knows he's too good for the band 😆
@Nero
Then why he's there in the first place?
He just wanted to humiliated them? 😆
I would love to see Marco in dt, he would bring something very different than mangini. If you watch his stuff, this man doesn't stop trying to improve, he just keeps getting better
Marco Minnemann hands down....best guy to work with: Peter Wildoer!
The best was Virgil, but Mike sounded more like DT all the way. When you have a band like Dream Theater is important to sound similar to what the fans are used to.
This.
MARCO MINNEMANN IS THE BEST
Debatable.
+FRANCISCO FUENTES dont even have to listen and I agree. Man is a god
+FRANCISCO FUENTES Mangini hands down! Jus sayin
I think so too. I like Minnemann's snare sound, it is very good.
there's no question. Mangini is certainly great, but he's not like Marco Minneman. And the fact that we could have had a Dream Theater with Marco Minneman, and now we don't, makes me depressed.
I personally liked Donati the most, but yeah they all were really good
Everybody else has to struggle to keep up with Portnoy's parts, but Marco looks like he has to slow down.
Marco was my favourite, but the cookie monster shirt got him cut.
Guilherme Vitoriano Pereira Me it is Thomas
I heard it. Dude was definitely too fast at a couple different times. That was probably why they went with Mike... That and he looks like Kylo Ren
That’s some bomb ass additions. It’s your call pal. Glad I don’t have to make that one. Those guys can go!🤘
Marco Minnemann is the best
The best of them all refused to go, check out Bobby Jarzombek!
I'm not a drummer, I don't know who's the best. All seem talented but after watching all the guys, I have to say I loved Minnemann's drumming, flawless and super energetic!!
Technique: Virgil
Look: Thomas
Best Name: Mangini
Best Performance: Minnemann
So you liked Thomas, huh ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Shame: Aquiles
Cristian Nunes Too humble for DT
If he was REALLY humble, he would not have even tried to get into the DT... Mike Mangini simply toyed with the songs as if they were easy, deserved the spot!
Cristian Nunes sure, decline the chance to play with the best band in the world simply because every other drummer in the audition is better than you. Smart.
I was surprised Thomas never got the gig. Out of all the talented guys there, for me it came down to power. Thomas had the most in that department.
Thomas Lang, hand down, his technique is flawless!!
Yeah.. he made it look effortless heeheheh
He didn't do so well in the improv section though
They were all phenomenal. Lots of talent to choose from
I liked Marco best. Plays like a dream theater drummer. Looks, acts, and dresses like a primus drummer 😂
Tim and Jay never were show stealers
It's wild to see Thomas Lang auditioning for anything lol the guy can quite literally play anything and is easily one of the best drummers of all time.
Thomas and Marco were never getting chosen though. They had way too many side gigs going on.
@@Momoa786 Dave Weckl
@@jamesroboyleweckl is a great jazz drummer.
The best thing to happen from all this is Marco Met up with Guthrie
But he would have been the best choice for DT. Still, I'm glad we have him in The Aristocrats.
And virgil played with probably the best musician of the last 100 years Alan Holdsworth.
They really missed out on Marco, dude was a beast for the recent Joe Satriani tour.
They tried to hire him. He declined. See my other comments as to why
Jeremy Johnson I’m sure it was the right choice for him, but damn I would have loved to hear a DT album with Marco Minneman on drums, next level creativity....
Joakim Hines Bredahl absolutely
@@joakimhinesbredahl5781 True. But we got to hear two Steven Wilson albums with Marco Minnemann which were out of this world.
I love the way that James only gives compliments to every single drummer
I love that Marco wore a Cookie Monster shirt to the audition. LMFAO
Yeah great way to take yourself out of the running and make yourself seem like a joke.
@@djjazzyjeff1232 maybe if you were just some random off the street but these are all recognized professionals with nothing to prove to anybody, just seeing if their styles mesh well.
@@djjazzyjeff1232 Marco could wear a pink lace bra and not one musician would say a damn thing. He is a drummer, one of the greatest on the planet. His cookie monster shirt is fitting when trying out for this Olympic bs. Cookie monster> V neck all day everyday, he was the best drummer auditioning, he turned the spot down. Bow to cookie monster immediately
For me, Peter Wi
ldoer from Sweden amazing drummer ,hes sticks as unvanible..
nothing is more metal than wearing a cookie monster shirt
At this point Derek Roddy was just trolling. Lol what a legend
Hahaha, he was just in the neighborhood and stopped by for audition
He wanna take a break from 300bpm
Just glad that Marco didn't selected in this audition. Aristocrats would've been incomplete without this monster.
My favorite drummer out of these guys is Marco . He is a very musical and a Creative drummer , Just listen to him on Steven Wilson's Raven that Refused to Sing . He brought so much to that album . but still I think Mike Mangini was the fit for DT .
Cookie monster shirt wins hands down.
Do you know what song he was playing?
Alex Scarboro a nightmare to remember
@@umutonuralppolat9352 Thank you!
I remember seeing Mangini as the first one to audition and thought, how is anyone going to top that? Then I seen Marco, and thought, holy crap he is bad ass! This was the first time I heard Marco and have been a fan ever since. He’s just incredible!
Amazing drummer. I am glad he is not with DT as Marco is at his best when he is "free" like when playing with Guthri and Bryan.
@@GG-iu6xd I totally agree. I just liked his feeling over Mangini’s.
Was cool to see Marco do this. His own band is miles beyond Dream Theater. Overall I'm amazed at the talent level though.
6:54 I think we know who Myung liked.
+DarkMedicine HOLY SHIT JOHN MYUNG HAS THE ABILITY TO SMILE‽
1- Virgil
2- Mike
3- Thomas - Marco - Derek - Peter
4- Aquiles (bad day)
25 - Lars
I've always wondered why they didn't have Bobby Jarzombek audition...
+MaxxxwellC Bobby stated in other interviews he declined the invitation. He has his reasons.