For the love of god, will you guys learn how to really air down, watching these videos drive me crazy, lol I use to teach off roading, and how important airing down is. Its all about control, if you have to floor it, smoke the tires to climb something.....you do not have control any more. Taking a tire from street pressure to 15 psi can increase traction up to 400%, helping prevent wheel spin. And keep in mind, traction is way more important then ground clearance. A Truck tire with a "P" rating I would air down around 25 psi, and never go below 20 psi. Once you upgrade to an off road tire (like you have here) with an 8 or 10 ply rating, full size trucks drop down around 15 psi, a jeep around 8-12 psi, any lower you could through a bead, but it takes a lot more force then you would think to do so. And if you can't fully air up to get home, those same tire you can run on the road till you get home to fill up fully, at 20 psi, with no issues as long as you are smart about it. Try redoing this climb slower and at 15 psi and see the results, just some constructive criticism :)
@@richfarfugnuven6308 Agree... And I'm not quite sure why Ford didn't get after it and put more shit on the Tremor that would give it an apples to apples shot. Like...why deliberately design a truck to compete against the Powerwagon, that isn't equipped to compete against it.
Tremor =diesel.... add a locker to the front of the ford= no competition at this point. I have an 08 super duty with OX LOCKERS front and rear and my friend Wayne has a power wagon and in Idaho; fuel, distance and being able to tow is key. Power wagon diesel please
@I know you are right, And I just got owned but: If someone can have fun off road and get good MPG with it,why not? Especially if you want to drive it more than just off road.
I would have loved to see what the stock Rebel would do going up the hill vs. the Rebel Rouser. That would have been something measurable that we could relate in the video.
Since you’re comparing it to the Raptor, why aren’t you running your Rebel Rouser in the terrain for which the Raptor was designed: Baja? Raptors aren’t trail trucks. They’re built to go fast through high-speed baja-type conditions. How well does the Rouser stack up against the Raptor in the Raptor’s home turf?
@@CmonsterFreak - Oh, I agree the Raptor is an awesome, multi-talented truck. But when Ford introduced the Raptor, they stated that the design goal was to make the best production baja truck possible. The leaf springs are just a result of it still being an F-150 and it simply wasn't cost-effective to produce a Raptor-specific coil-sprung rear suspension (which would require a different frame, control arms, rear axle assembly, and more) for a limited-production model. Besides, Ford loves leaf-spring suspensions ... I mean, it took them how long -- 50+ years? -- to give the Mustang an independent (non-leaf-spring) rear? The point of my comment was more that anyone can add a bunch of aftermarket suspension stuff and better tires to a Rebel (or any other truck) and best the Raptor in a rock crawl. That isn't the Raptor's forte. It'd be sorta like claiming that you're a better athlete than Tom Brady because you beat his bowling score. That's not the sport he spent his lifetime mastering. So, if TFL wants to show that they've made a true Raptor-beater, they should compare them head-to-head in the kind of terrain that the Raptor was designed to excel in ... and still not ruin the Rebel for everyday use, not risk its warranty, its ride and handling, etc. Don't get me wrong: the Rebel's a cool truck, too, and TFL upgrades have given their Rebel Rouser a more attractive appearance and improved capabilities, but my contention would be that it's still not as good as the Raptor in baja terrain, and I suspect it's not as good as a Raptor, overall, either.
I love how in most other videos, everyone trash talks the ram and says the raptor is sooo much better, but as soon as this video says the ram did better, everyone's changed to "oh it's meant for desert running not rock crawling". Whatever, y'all just dont want to admit this ram is better for more than likely 10-15k less than a stock raptor smh
haha. delusional. they had to add a level/lift kit with falcon shocks and bigger tires to get it to do better. add about 15k for all that. stock rebel would not do that well
@@jamescalvert240 what do you mean delusional? Even after the mods, it's still far cheaper than a raptor, and outperformed it too. That's what the original comment said, but I guess reading comprehension isn't a strong suit of yours, especially considering it took over a year for your response 😂
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I downsized from a 2015 Z71 Chevy doublecab to a Jeep Gladiator Rubicon. Kept the Gladiator for 4 months and missed having a full size truck so..out with the Gladiator and in with a new 2020 Ram Rebel Crew Cab. The Rebel is so much more truck! Looks awesome, luxurious on the inside, super quiet ride, gobs of power with the Hemi and eight speed tranny, amazing 12" nav/infotainment center, enormous back seat room, etc. etc. The Gladiator Rubicon was cool but..the Rebel is bad azz!! Loving the Rebel so far!
I need to rewatch. Several times you mentioned Raptor was better, but your final conclusion was Rebel. I’m confused, was it because of the sponsorship?
I don't know much about off roading, is AEV a good brand? A neighbor of mine says their crap. Just curious. I want to eventually get an off road vehicle for fun. Would be good to know others opinions :)
Joseph Whiskey Beale - I agree. 3/4 tons and larger aren’t exactly the best at that type of terrain. It is also a learning thing for many on here, that the diesel is not a good idea. Phenomenal torque but that front end becomes a real issue with the weight, unless you are pointed straight up, basically.
Truck looks great! I have to say the Rebel and the Trail Boss are a very close tie. You said the same thing when you took the Trail Boss up the same hill [ I've never seen it this bad before]. I think both trucks are great.
Better is subjective especially as you stated that this trail changes a lot. What I'd like to know is a comparison to a similar optioned Raptor cost and the cost of this Rebel with it's upgrades.
@@jasonbobbiechristian7315 Interesting but to say it's as good as a Raptor you would need to do some high speed 4x4ing to see how it handles and to compare as well.
@@loganholmberg2295 I have a 2016 Rebel. Love the truck. Nowhere did I say it was as good af the Raptor. It's apple's and oranges when comparing any truck on the market to the Raptor.
@@jordangraf673 half of what you said is incorrect, interior is subjective are you talking about the new rebel? The panoramic roof is beautiful in the raptor, offroading is on another lever in the raptor. They literally say this in the video and they put 3000$ shocks and new tires on the rebel probably up there in price with the raptor stock.
As much as I love the entire crew, Andre, you're the best of the best. TFL has truly made me fall in love with off roading. I'll be getting a new to me FJ Cruiser soon. You guys should scoop up on of those beauties and show off what they can really do.
I couldn’t have been the only one to notice it, but why did the fog lights keep turning on and off? Great video, Toyo is an excellent tire, but the at2 while still a great tire, I would have thought you guys would have gone with the new RT version. Keep it up!
Erik G. If your headlights are on and fog lights are off the fog light will turn on on the side of the direction you are turning. It helps when you turn at night. I noticed my 19 Rebel doing that in a parking garage. I believe it is designed to help when cornering at night. I saw a 19 Rebel in a parking lot during daytime do the same thing.
25lbs isnt aired down. You could see in the video there was zero sidewall flex. And I know andre can say the TH sound since he does when he says 3... troof or dare????? Or truth or dare?
I'm not a big fan of Ford but when they made the raptor they did a hell of a job. I'd buy one. But v8 only. Ram needs to step there game up on the rebel. Still super nice truck.
Wow, what an amazing Red Ram truck! What’s more amazing is that I’m watching this video on RUclips while the movie Twister is playing on TV which featured another beautiful Red Ram truck which is when they first came out with these “truck like” design for the Ram and which is when I first fell in love with the Ram trucks.
What am I missing. A lot of upgrades were made to the stock and with it improved ability - expected. I can do the same to a 19XX and get phenomenal performance. The difference is I didn't start by shelling out $55,000.
great job, yet non of you reporters talk about the colossal problem Hemi owners are facing every day in regards to the lifters failing and the Hemi Tick . how about investigating this issue Andre, how about questioning Mopar if they fixed this problem and what was the reasons for this premature failure. it takes a well known channel to get answers as the common man gets the runaround from dodge and their dealers .
Yeah, that's not unexpected. There are a lot of issues from a lot of different cars that will crop up as they age, pages like this generally are only reviewing what it's like to drive a new car. They don't have them long enough to see what problems they will have 5 or 10 years down the line. Though I will say that TFL does have a handful of older, high mileage cars in their fleet that they have reported problems on, but it's only a small list of individual vehicles and not every vehicle is going to experience what technicians report as being common issues, some vehicles experience more than their share of issues for a variety of reasons. It's a difficult thing to report on and getting numbers together for an accurate failure rate report of such issues is difficult at best, especially as cars get up there in years and miles. Manufacturers are only accountable for such engine problem for the duration of their powertrain warranty. And even then they will do whatever they can to find technicalities to deny fixing it for free under warranty.
Why do the led running lights have that annoying flickering effect ive seen it doing this on other rides that u show .is the camera tripping on the light pattern?
It is the same effect you get when you look at a computer monitor through a camera. There is a refresh rate to them and it looks like they are flashing. We can't see it normally.
See, I was all excited to see if the Rebel could deal with Cliffhanger 2.0, but I’ll never know, Because you guys modified it. - There’s value in not modding the vehicles so that we can see what they are capable of.
Yeah right!! Why would they want to embarrass their heavily modified, sponsored truck with a stock, 10 year old Toureg lol. I agree, and I bet the VW would kill it
Terrence Jones it did not win the only difference was the rebel was stock and not lifted.. that why they said about the trail boss because it has a 2 inch lift so more clearance but if you take a lifted rebel . It will be different
Depends what you're doing. I Don't have one in my Sierra and I'm still happy with what it does off road. Sometimes I think people get to hung up on checking off capability options when you should just find what you like and can afford and just get out there with it. I use my Truck as a daily driver as well so not kitting it as a uber 4x4 makes it easier to live with.
The Raptor is the bar that everyone tries to accomplish. TFL needs to compare the trailboss, rebel, and fx4 f-150, as they are all a comparable platform.
Nathan Gregory we are talking about the TFL guys, they are trying to make a “Raptor Fighter”, but they aren’t even close. Rebel was a poor choice, outdated engine with pretty cosmetics.
I disagree about outdated motor. GM still has that tired 5.3 that is almost 20 years old. Pretty cosmetics? When's the last time you bought a vehicle based solely on price and performance? There is ALWAYS some sort of cosmetic look that draws a person to a vehicle. Look at people that bought that God awful Pontiac Aztec, dam sure wasn't due to performance, warranty, or value.
I like the new content of your latest videos. This Ram video along with the Toyota Land Cruiser videos are MUCH more interesting than watching you take the Gauntlet hill time after time looking for fuel economy numbers. While those are beneficial to some people, they are not always the most interesting to watch. This was a great video. Thanks!!!
Hey Andre’!! Oh I know it’s s beautiful day in Colorado our on the trail. But I would never leave the windows open with all that dust swirling around ! Man that fine dust can and will get into places you’ll never be able to clean out of! Whenever I go off roading, no matter the weather, I alway keep the windows up and the HVAC Systems Recirculation Mode Active to keep it all out of the Systems ducts. But for trail running a full sized truck will never be as good as a midsized like ZR2!
So tell us the total cost to make better than zee raptor.. and inc the truck cost in it vs the stock I think raptor you used.. so the real world could see what it takes to make it better and the cost to do so... in total...
Firstjimmy Lasthedgecock dude this falcons are very good... to the point that I’m getting them for my truck ... fox are great but to expensive I think... this falcon come set up for a the rebel
Rouser Rebel may make it up once or twice but the Raptor is in another category. Stronger built, wider, better suspension the whole nine yards. The Rebel did a good job no doubt but what is the sustainability of this vehicle of doing it over and over.. Dodge, excuse me I mean Fiat does have a bad record in that category.
Fiat has zero to do with this. It's the same truck that they sold before fiat bought ram. All fiat has done is change lights fenders and interior and better transmission options. All fiat is ,is a different downer that changed small things. And as you can sense fiat has made the changes the rams sells have went up ALOT. Like I said still 90% of ram parts and design nothing mechanical made by fiat.
HolyGrail 95 Hopefully Fiat can make improvements and not mess up a good thing, there quality control stinks overseas. Just a little sad that long time American company sells out to foreign markets, first Daimler-Benz now Fiat. Wonder why no one can make a go of it?
@@noniespam I agree with you fiat is junk. It is very stupid another country owns American made companys. The dodge brother probably rolled over in their graves. I've owned dodges my whole life and I love them. I've owned quite a bit of chevys and loved them. All the fords I've owned turned me again them. I'll never buy another Ford. But I do agree we need it back over here on our us soil
You guys are on fire! Love where your going with the whole show. I love the Ram Rouser, but my money and wife say TRD Pro. So I'm still thinking about it.
I would like to see vehicles tested with a full payload or half payload . More than likely half payload is more reasonable for off -road . I believe the Rebel's payload is 1850 lbs ; not counting trailer tongue weight which according to Dodge for a ball hitch is 10% and 5th wheel is 15% of max towing weight . Im not sure if tongue weight can be figured into max payload if not towing .
The Fast Lane Truck geez man throw a lift on it and a good set of tires lol. There is a reason why them old Suzuki’s are in high demand among the off road crowd lol
I'm not sure if its the tires, not being KO2s or if it's just heavy (why the power wagon couldn't do it) but that seemed much harder than it should of been.
Great job Andre! The Rebel did a good job of climbing. I would like one, nut my 18 Laramie will have to do at this time. I love my Laramie, but not for climbing mountains. I'll use my Can Am Rock Climber for that!
Love this build, and I love my '19 Rebel. But I have to admit, the Raptor still has us in a few places. That front torque sensing locker being a key example. With that said, wouldn't trade my Rebel for a Raptor ever.
Well said brother ! Went with a rebel 12 myself and was looking in to the raptor, but that v6 along with the issues with that engine that I have seen just in 30k made me stay away. With proper mods and a decent driver the rebel can stand next to raptor anyday and sound better in the process.
You should be ok clearing almost everything.. probably need beggar tires like 35s so it will higher.... haha unlike a the trailboss a lot even though I owned a rebel but I’m starting to build I with the falcons and bigger tires
Great content and overall performance of your newly upgraded Ram Rebel Rouser. I myself purchased a fully loaded 2019 Rebel 12 with Airlift Suspension and absolutely loving it. Have you measured any power (HP/Torque) gained from the performance upgrades? Dyno? Would it be possible if you can provide the links to the Mopar upgrades that you added to your Rebel? I’m interested in the Ram Bar, Ram Airflow, Falcon Shocks, Performance Exhaust kit. Thank you.
A small lift and good tires can do wonders off-road.
Joseph Whiskey Beale the duratracs we’re better
Dealers should offer the Ram Rebel Rouser package!
The size of the shaft is always important ;)
Well spoken. Helps with performance and getting serviced too. Oh, and having a truck helps too.
Dont want to get shafted
That’s what she said.
For the love of god, will you guys learn how to really air down, watching these videos drive me crazy, lol
I use to teach off roading, and how important airing down is. Its all about control, if you have to floor it, smoke the tires to climb something.....you do not have control any more. Taking a tire from street pressure to 15 psi can increase traction up to 400%, helping prevent wheel spin. And keep in mind, traction is way more important then ground clearance.
A Truck tire with a "P" rating I would air down around 25 psi, and never go below 20 psi. Once you upgrade to an off road tire (like you have here) with an 8 or 10 ply rating, full size trucks drop down around 15 psi, a jeep around 8-12 psi, any lower you could through a bead, but it takes a lot more force then you would think to do so. And if you can't fully air up to get home, those same tire you can run on the road till you get home to fill up fully, at 20 psi, with no issues as long as you are smart about it. Try redoing this climb slower and at 15 psi and see the results, just some constructive criticism :)
I agree 100, however, a good truck and driver picking a good line helps tremendously!
This was the first thing I noticed, he did say he was dropping to 25lbs but didn’t seem like enough.
the reason the dont do it is because the tire being that low can come off of the rim and damage things
@@idonthaveaname2719 those are beadlocks so they wont. most offroad tired and rims have beadlocks on em to prevent tires coming off when airing down
@@jamescalvert240 if you watched the previous vid, you would see they didnt use them as bead locks
The Raptor must be a really great truck because everyone is trying to match it or beat it.
Powerwagon don't care.....about your stupid Raptor......
@@richfarfugnuven6308 Ford tremor doesn't care about your powerwagon.
@@Blessedandfortunate look at RTI scores. The Powerwagon score is much higher than the tremor, and I own 2 Ford Powerstroke trucks.
@@richfarfugnuven6308
Agree... And I'm not quite sure why Ford didn't get after it and put more shit on the Tremor that would give it an apples to apples shot. Like...why deliberately design a truck to compete against the Powerwagon, that isn't equipped to compete against it.
Tremor =diesel.... add a locker to the front of the ford= no competition at this point. I have an 08 super duty with OX LOCKERS front and rear and my friend Wayne has a power wagon and in Idaho; fuel, distance and being able to tow is key. Power wagon diesel please
Andre!!! Such a kid up there, don’t ever lose that buddy!
Stay safe, you and the team!
Nice video. One thing I would like to see is a video on the fuel economy impacts for the upgrades.
MPG-LOL It's smiles per gallon, not miles per gallon.
@I know you are right, And I just got owned but: If someone can have fun off road and get good MPG with it,why not? Especially if you want to drive it more than just off road.
I would have loved to see what the stock Rebel would do going up the hill vs. the Rebel Rouser. That would have been something measurable that we could relate in the video.
Andre "good lord I hope I remembered to pack my astronaut diapers for when I doo doo going up this hill" Smirnov
That V8 sound makes it better than the raptor. Ford said the next gen raptor will come with a V8. Waiting to see which block it gets.
7.3? 🤞
Since you’re comparing it to the Raptor, why aren’t you running your Rebel Rouser in the terrain for which the Raptor was designed: Baja? Raptors aren’t trail trucks. They’re built to go fast through high-speed baja-type conditions. How well does the Rouser stack up against the Raptor in the Raptor’s home turf?
The raptor can do it all. If it was truly designed specifically for baja wouldn’t they have ditched the ancient leaf spring suspension in the back?
@@CmonsterFreak - Oh, I agree the Raptor is an awesome, multi-talented truck. But when Ford introduced the Raptor, they stated that the design goal was to make the best production baja truck possible. The leaf springs are just a result of it still being an F-150 and it simply wasn't cost-effective to produce a Raptor-specific coil-sprung rear suspension (which would require a different frame, control arms, rear axle assembly, and more) for a limited-production model. Besides, Ford loves leaf-spring suspensions ... I mean, it took them how long -- 50+ years? -- to give the Mustang an independent (non-leaf-spring) rear? The point of my comment was more that anyone can add a bunch of aftermarket suspension stuff and better tires to a Rebel (or any other truck) and best the Raptor in a rock crawl. That isn't the Raptor's forte. It'd be sorta like claiming that you're a better athlete than Tom Brady because you beat his bowling score. That's not the sport he spent his lifetime mastering. So, if TFL wants to show that they've made a true Raptor-beater, they should compare them head-to-head in the kind of terrain that the Raptor was designed to excel in ... and still not ruin the Rebel for everyday use, not risk its warranty, its ride and handling, etc. Don't get me wrong: the Rebel's a cool truck, too, and TFL upgrades have given their Rebel Rouser a more attractive appearance and improved capabilities, but my contention would be that it's still not as good as the Raptor in baja terrain, and I suspect it's not as good as a Raptor, overall, either.
I love how in most other videos, everyone trash talks the ram and says the raptor is sooo much better, but as soon as this video says the ram did better, everyone's changed to "oh it's meant for desert running not rock crawling". Whatever, y'all just dont want to admit this ram is better for more than likely 10-15k less than a stock raptor smh
Agreed, I live in the mountains and I think the Powerwagon is better. If I lived in the desert, I would want a Raptor.
haha. delusional. they had to add a level/lift kit with falcon shocks and bigger tires to get it to do better. add about 15k for all that. stock rebel would not do that well
@@jamescalvert240 what do you mean delusional? Even after the mods, it's still far cheaper than a raptor, and outperformed it too. That's what the original comment said, but I guess reading comprehension isn't a strong suit of yours, especially considering it took over a year for your response 😂
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I downsized from a 2015 Z71 Chevy doublecab to a Jeep Gladiator Rubicon. Kept the Gladiator for 4 months and missed having a full size truck so..out with the Gladiator and in with a new 2020 Ram Rebel Crew Cab. The Rebel is so much more truck! Looks awesome, luxurious on the inside, super quiet ride, gobs of power with the Hemi and eight speed tranny, amazing 12" nav/infotainment center, enormous back seat room, etc. etc. The Gladiator Rubicon was cool but..the Rebel is bad azz!! Loving the Rebel so far!
That bedbar is the reason it made it
Awesome video and climb Andre. Great build on the Ram Rebel, it did the job it was supposed to do.
I need to rewatch. Several times you mentioned Raptor was better, but your final conclusion was Rebel. I’m confused, was it because of the sponsorship?
I hope AEV will bring out a suspension kit for the 2019 Ram Rebel!
I don't know much about off roading, is AEV a good brand? A neighbor of mine says their crap.
Just curious. I want to eventually get an off road vehicle for fun. Would be good to know others opinions :)
I asked them on one of here Instagram post and they replied saying that were currently working on new gen Ram kits
Point Break I don’t know what your neighbor’s problem is with AEV. Just ask anyone in the off-roading community, AEV is the finest money can buy.
@@GregKittle Probably a bad experience. He's a little weird so honestly I should just have ignored him 😂
I remember awhile back Nathan tried to go up 'dare' in a PowerWagon but could not make it... however this thing did it... So congratulations!
Too heavy was the problem there
Joseph Whiskey Beale - I agree. 3/4 tons and larger aren’t exactly the best at that type of terrain. It is also a learning thing for many on here, that the diesel is not a good idea. Phenomenal torque but that front end becomes a real issue with the weight, unless you are pointed straight up, basically.
Power Wagon had 33 inch tires. If upgraded to the same size as the Rebel here it would likely out perform it.
Low speed rock crawling is not what the Raptor is about, but big open desert high speed running.
gpage well anything can do that.
@@Greg-op7lg As well as the Raptor?
Truck looks great! I have to say the Rebel and the Trail Boss are a very close tie. You said the same thing when you took the Trail Boss up the same hill [ I've never seen it this bad before]. I think both trucks are great.
Sooo the Rebel needed a lift and bigger tires to make it up cliff hanger 2.0.?
But the Trail Boss did it stock. .....
Apparently the rebel already did it, remember that 79.5 score when they comparing the Raptor? The upgrades just improved the score.
Way to go Ram! Shows what a great platform that is!
Better is subjective especially as you stated that this trail changes a lot. What I'd like to know is a comparison to a similar optioned Raptor cost and the cost of this Rebel with it's upgrades.
That rebel with the upgrades is still about 20k less than a raptor.
@@jasonbobbiechristian7315 Interesting but to say it's as good as a Raptor you would need to do some high speed 4x4ing to see how it handles and to compare as well.
@@loganholmberg2295 I have a 2016 Rebel. Love the truck. Nowhere did I say it was as good af the Raptor. It's apple's and oranges when comparing any truck on the market to the Raptor.
Thanks Andre... that Ram never missed a beat..nice driving.
I own a 2016 ram so I’m not surprised at all. The full coil suspension on the ram is impeccable off road... on road too actually
Well done. Good looking, capable truck with every day utility.
Take it desert racing, that's what the Raptor was built for not rock crawling!
ratsv who the hell desert races ? Everyday use the Ram wins hands down.
The Raptor would do better than most trucks in the desert but not as great as everybody would like.
@@ebsell the rebel can tow more, has a better interior, is cheaper, and is just as good off-roading at everything except high speed stuff.
@@jordangraf673 half of what you said is incorrect, interior is subjective are you talking about the new rebel? The panoramic roof is beautiful in the raptor, offroading is on another lever in the raptor. They literally say this in the video and they put 3000$ shocks and new tires on the rebel probably up there in price with the raptor stock.
@@drivinforalivin6945 The interior may be subjective, but anyone with half a brain would agree that the new RAM interiors are better.
Great job 😎 ram I love the video
As much as I love the entire crew, Andre, you're the best of the best. TFL has truly made me fall in love with off roading. I'll be getting a new to me FJ Cruiser soon. You guys should scoop up on of those beauties and show off what they can really do.
I couldn’t have been the only one to notice it, but why did the fog lights keep turning on and off? Great video, Toyo is an excellent tire, but the at2 while still a great tire, I would have thought you guys would have gone with the new RT version. Keep it up!
Erik G. If your headlights are on and fog lights are off the fog light will turn on on the side of the direction you are turning. It helps when you turn at night. I noticed my 19 Rebel doing that in a parking garage. I believe it is designed to help when cornering at night. I saw a 19 Rebel in a parking lot during daytime do the same thing.
deez nutz gotcha so it’s just like the old school vehicle cornering lights except it works off steering wheel position instead of the old blinka’
They should use a 6.4 in a rebel and have next step up with the hellcat motor
The ram rebel TRX will have the Hellcat motor.
I Believe it’s in the works now. lot of testing .
25lbs isnt aired down. You could see in the video there was zero sidewall flex. And I know andre can say the TH sound since he does when he says 3... troof or dare????? Or truth or dare?
I would love to see a stock rebel with the sir suspension go up cliffhanger 2.0
I'm not a big fan of Ford but when they made the raptor they did a hell of a job. I'd buy one. But v8 only. Ram needs to step there game up on the rebel. Still super nice truck.
7.3 v8 raptor next year its perfect
Wow, what an amazing Red Ram truck! What’s more amazing is that I’m watching this video on RUclips while the movie Twister is playing on TV which featured another beautiful Red Ram truck which is when they first came out with these “truck like” design for the Ram and which is when I first fell in love with the Ram trucks.
What am I missing.
A lot of upgrades were made to the stock and with it improved ability - expected.
I can do the same to a 19XX and get phenomenal performance.
The difference is I didn't start by shelling out $55,000.
Ok ?good job and grats i guess?
OMG enough with the DAMMM Raptor already.... not in the same ball park, distant cousins if anything
RegularGuy76 I agree. It’s a nice truck but it will never be a raptor or come close.
great job, yet non of you reporters talk about the colossal problem Hemi owners are facing every day in regards to the lifters failing and the Hemi Tick . how about investigating this issue Andre, how about questioning Mopar if they fixed this problem and what was the reasons for this premature failure. it takes a well known channel to get answers as the common man gets the runaround from dodge and their dealers .
Yeah, that's not unexpected. There are a lot of issues from a lot of different cars that will crop up as they age, pages like this generally are only reviewing what it's like to drive a new car. They don't have them long enough to see what problems they will have 5 or 10 years down the line. Though I will say that TFL does have a handful of older, high mileage cars in their fleet that they have reported problems on, but it's only a small list of individual vehicles and not every vehicle is going to experience what technicians report as being common issues, some vehicles experience more than their share of issues for a variety of reasons.
It's a difficult thing to report on and getting numbers together for an accurate failure rate report of such issues is difficult at best, especially as cars get up there in years and miles. Manufacturers are only accountable for such engine problem for the duration of their powertrain warranty. And even then they will do whatever they can to find technicalities to deny fixing it for free under warranty.
Awesome video. Nice rig. looks and sound good. TRX is going to be epic. Gladiator with a hellcrate engine. Good times in the truck world boys.
Why do the led running lights have that annoying flickering effect ive seen it doing this on other rides that u show .is the camera tripping on the light pattern?
It is the same effect you get when you look at a computer monitor through a camera. There is a refresh rate to them and it looks like they are flashing. We can't see it normally.
It looks like a gen1 avalanche
With that annoying sport bar it sure does
No no 😭
Yeah but those were still cool trucks. The looks were subjective (not a fan myself) but the Avalanche had some unique options.
Yea, that sports bar is fugly
@@MarkPharaoh I agree and its a touchy subject with Avalanche owners lol. Easiest way to make hate you.
Love everything but those damn lights on the light bar. Looks like an alien 👽
I’m still not convinced by those tires :v ko2 or duratrac
I would really enjoy like other hundreds of thousands of viewers to se your VW Touareg 2004 with similar adequate tires doing the same trail.
See, I was all excited to see if the Rebel could deal with Cliffhanger 2.0, but I’ll never know, Because you guys modified it. - There’s value in not modding the vehicles so that we can see what they are capable of.
Take the VW Touareg up it!
I would love to see this.
Yes please
Yeah right!! Why would they want to embarrass their heavily modified, sponsored truck with a stock, 10 year old Toureg lol. I agree, and I bet the VW would kill it
Mountain Man Jim I thought it already had! 😂
@@geodrome nah, they took the VW up the new hill. Rocky top trail
Raptor its a ......Raptor! 💪👌
I don’t get why they don’t put some kind of front diff on these trucks. Do the Torsen like Ford and some Toyota products
Which Toyota has a torsen front diff?
A couple have torsen centers, but I don't know of any Toyota with a front limited slip of any kind.
_HOON_ well it’s technically a Lexus but I believe the GX 470 has it. My cousin owns one and said his has the torsen front.
The truck is so long I think you still need an extra 2 inch suspension lift.
You guys should throw a super charger on this bad boy
Why does this video not show up in the video feed?
you need to do a comparison with the Chevy trail boss and the ram rebel
They did in MOAB. The Trail boss won
Terrence Jones now the rebel would win
Terrence Jones it did not win the only difference was the rebel was stock and not lifted.. that why they said about the trail boss because it has a 2 inch lift so more clearance but if you take a lifted rebel . It will be different
Why does this dude all ways sound like he out of breath? I mean like he pushed the truck up the hill from behind.
Loved it Andre! Best series on TFL yet. Want to see a rouser with an eco diesel🙏🏻🍻
Congrats ! You've definitely improved the truck. Best regards from El Paso, TX.
Bigger lift and a front locker
Great video! Off topic, it would be nice to compare the RAM 2500 Power Wagon to the 2020 GMC Sierra 2500 AT4 HD !
A TechGuy and the F250 Tremor! When it’s out.
@@shitloveaduck yes I forgot about it, you are right!
The raptor has a bigger item you make no mention too. It has a limited slip front diff. That is more important than anything you mention. Troof man.
Depends what you're doing. I Don't have one in my Sierra and I'm still happy with what it does off road. Sometimes I think people get to hung up on checking off capability options when you should just find what you like and can afford and just get out there with it. I use my Truck as a daily driver as well so not kitting it as a uber 4x4 makes it easier to live with.
I'm pretty sure it's a torsein, which imo is better than a locker.
@@okigojuryu you are correct. Darn little phones and auto correct..hahaha
Looks great! Maybe just a little bit more of a lift....But that's just my own personal view. Good job TFL
I like the video, but the Raptor was a bad comparison. They’re still nowhere close, maybe a Trail Boss would’ve been a better competitor?
Alann Mac I don’t get why they insist! I like them all but the raptor is the best factory truck out there. It’s also the most expensive
The Raptor is the bar that everyone tries to accomplish. TFL needs to compare the trailboss, rebel, and fx4 f-150, as they are all a comparable platform.
Nathan Gregory we are talking about the TFL guys, they are trying to make a “Raptor Fighter”, but they aren’t even close. Rebel was a poor choice, outdated engine with pretty cosmetics.
I disagree about outdated motor. GM still has that tired 5.3 that is almost 20 years old. Pretty cosmetics? When's the last time you bought a vehicle based solely on price and performance? There is ALWAYS some sort of cosmetic look that draws a person to a vehicle. Look at people that bought that God awful Pontiac Aztec, dam sure wasn't due to performance, warranty, or value.
I would still take a Raptor
Good climb Andre,..nice truck,...now!!
You guys have done s great job on that truck
I like the new content of your latest videos. This Ram video along with the Toyota Land Cruiser videos are MUCH more interesting than watching you take the Gauntlet hill time after time looking for fuel economy numbers. While those are beneficial to some people, they are not always the most interesting to watch. This was a great video. Thanks!!!
AWESOME !!!
Compare this video to the Trailboss Video. I saw this ram struggle alot more than the trailboss.
How the falcons feel? What about regular driving on the road in comparison
It will be great until the roller lifters seize up and grind down the cam lobes. That and the rust.
oak 1971 I really like the 5.7 hemi but that gave me a chuckle
close your eyes when you click this -> 00:59
Hey Andre’!! Oh I know it’s s beautiful day in Colorado our on the trail. But I would never leave the windows open with all that dust swirling around ! Man that fine dust can and will get into places you’ll never be able to clean out of! Whenever I go off roading, no matter the weather, I alway keep the windows up and the HVAC Systems Recirculation Mode Active to keep it all out of the Systems ducts. But for trail running a full sized truck will never be as good as a midsized like ZR2!
So tell us the total cost to make better than zee raptor.. and inc the truck cost in it vs the stock I think raptor you used.. so the real world could see what it takes to make it better and the cost to do so... in total...
I call the TRD Land Cruiser climb that course!!
Easy
Land Cruiser vs Tuareg
Yeah I'll still prefer the Raptor.
I still prefer an old XJ with a welded diff
Liked the video because I run Togo AT2’s on everything I own.
I all so love to see fox shocks add to the ram rebel.
Firstjimmy Lasthedgecock dude this falcons are very good... to the point that I’m getting them for my truck ... fox are great but to expensive I think... this falcon come set up for a the rebel
Cliffhanger 3.0: The Rebel Rouser’s Off-Road Index has improved over the stock, but we’re not gonna say.
Rouser Rebel may make it up once or twice but the Raptor is in another category. Stronger built, wider, better suspension the whole nine yards. The Rebel did a good job no doubt but what is the sustainability of this vehicle of doing it over and over.. Dodge, excuse me I mean Fiat does have a bad record in that category.
Fiat has zero to do with this. It's the same truck that they sold before fiat bought ram. All fiat has done is change lights fenders and interior and better transmission options. All fiat is ,is a different downer that changed small things. And as you can sense fiat has made the changes the rams sells have went up ALOT. Like I said still 90% of ram parts and design nothing mechanical made by fiat.
HolyGrail 95 Hopefully Fiat can make improvements and not mess up a good thing, there quality control stinks overseas. Just a little sad that long time American company sells out to foreign markets, first Daimler-Benz now Fiat. Wonder why no one can make a go of it?
@@noniespam I agree with you fiat is junk. It is very stupid another country owns American made companys. The dodge brother probably rolled over in their graves. I've owned dodges my whole life and I love them. I've owned quite a bit of chevys and loved them. All the fords I've owned turned me again them. I'll never buy another Ford. But I do agree we need it back over here on our us soil
Ok what’s with the fog lights randomly turning on but just one side?
I just moved out to Colorado I'm currently in grand junction I wanna take my jeep up 2.0 to see how bad it really is or do you guys over sell it
Andre, please..please..please..remove that sports bar! It makes it look like a old Chevy. Apart from that, the Rebel looks great.
You guys are on fire! Love where your going with the whole show. I love the Ram Rouser, but my money and wife say TRD Pro. So I'm still thinking about it.
Personally I would have gone with the MT instead of the AT version of those tires
Good built it was not to much and is still cheaper then a Raptor. I would wait for the TRX though
This needs to be a *GMC Sierra AT4 Duramax I6* to be cool.
I live in vietnam, so i don't understand almost your comments. Only thing i want to know is which is better!? Thanks for show me .
That sound is really marvelous......
I would like to see vehicles tested with a full payload or half payload . More than likely half payload is more reasonable for off -road . I believe the Rebel's payload is 1850 lbs ; not counting trailer tongue weight which according to Dodge for a ball hitch is 10% and 5th wheel is 15% of max towing weight . Im not sure if tongue weight can be figured into max payload if not towing .
Sad part is an old Suzuki would make it up that hill easier than either of them.
Nope, that's not the true, It barely made it up the much easier Penn Gulch: ruclips.net/video/rXvNjcBCGK8/видео.html
The Fast Lane Truck geez man throw a lift on it and a good set of tires lol. There is a reason why them old Suzuki’s are in high demand among the off road crowd lol
I'm not sure if its the tires, not being KO2s or if it's just heavy (why the power wagon couldn't do it) but that seemed much harder than it should of been.
Could a stock Frontier pro4x make it up that I wonder or is there not enough clearance?
That vehicle doesn't have enough clearance for that trail and doesn't wear adequate tires.
Great job Andre! The Rebel did a good job of climbing. I would like one, nut my 18 Laramie will have to do at this time. I love my Laramie, but not for climbing mountains. I'll use my Can Am Rock Climber for that!
Love this build, and I love my '19 Rebel. But I have to admit, the Raptor still has us in a few places. That front torque sensing locker being a key example. With that said, wouldn't trade my Rebel for a Raptor ever.
Well said brother ! Went with a rebel 12 myself and was looking in to the raptor, but that v6 along with the issues with that engine that I have seen just in 30k made me stay away. With proper mods and a decent driver the rebel can stand next to raptor anyday and sound better in the process.
Where is this trail? Since moving here to CO, I have wanted to take my '10 Titan up it. I want to see how it performs compared to a brand new rebel..
Just did a similar trail this weekend and the trailboss handled it well. Thank goodness for my transfer case plate. Need one for the gas tank though
Pech Michael & Christina trail boss is taller than a stock one two inch lift.... it’s good ...
You should be ok clearing almost everything.. probably need beggar tires like 35s so it will higher.... haha unlike a the trailboss a lot even though I owned a rebel but I’m starting to build I with the falcons and bigger tires
Great content and overall performance of your newly upgraded Ram Rebel Rouser. I myself purchased a fully loaded 2019 Rebel 12 with Airlift Suspension and absolutely loving it. Have you measured any power (HP/Torque) gained from the performance upgrades? Dyno? Would it be possible if you can provide the links to the Mopar upgrades that you added to your Rebel? I’m interested in the Ram Bar, Ram Airflow, Falcon Shocks, Performance Exhaust kit. Thank you.
The little Fiat that could! Go Rebel!
When Andre says rebel rouser, it reminds me of the hamburglar. Rabel rabel...
So why did he get rid of the air suspension?
Great video Andre. I have to admit I love this truck and the Raptor.