I had a 2013 Ram 1500 5.7Hemi and I did the IHC 4"6" drop kit. That was an absolute nightmare on that rear end. Now I have a 2009 Silverado 5.3 Vortec, and I’m about to lower this one with a 3"5" drop. I actually really don’t wanna do a 4"6" kit again I WILL SAY THIS, THE RAM IS A PAIN IN THE ASS DOING IT IN YOUR DRIVEWAY. With the IHC 4"6" kit you HAVE to cut off the rear brackets OFF the rear end. Itself. That was the most annoying part but I do appreciate dodge doing the rear suspension as they did and the disc brakes in the rear too. And also the IHC Kit you’re able to use the STOCK front shocks and springs. It was just control arm drop cups
Actually, a panhard bar never centers the axle, rather it shoves it off to the side as the suspension compresses. A watts link however does hold the axle in the center.
You make it look so easy to remove the springs from the Silverado. Mine are riveted in at the front of the spring, can't just unbolt them. And the rear might as well be, too, those bushings are brutal to get free.
@@SK-sq9mf The leaf bracket to the frame would have to be cut to change the height of the front of the leaf packs. The rear of the leaf pack mount was ultra-hard to get free. That part you use drop shackles, which cause the pack to sit angled heel-up. Important to use pinion shims as well for the driveshaft to sit right.
@@hondaservicecenter Nice. 4" drop is probably just right. I didn't go flip kit on my '11 long box, just drop shackles, 4x4 block + overload spring delete. Also cut front springs a touch. Maybe 1.5/3.5 drop
When you tighten the ball joints and tie rods you are supposed to hold the ball joint/tie rod in place and only turn the nut. That is why they have the hex on the end. Also you should not hit aluminum to release ball joints and tie rods. They have tools for that. You can use a pogo jack to put the suspension in the position where it will be on the ground before you tighten the bolts.
Ram hasn't had a sport truck since the SRT-10 in the early 2000s, guess there isn't enough of a market, and not surprising they wouldn't offer a lowering kit, probably not enough people would buy it.
All suspension bolts tightened with the wheels in the air leads to a LOT of binding when you put weight on the rubber. Wow, why do I keep watching these?
It should be noted that air springs will level your truck to eliminate squat. This is great for hauling but when towing, it does nothing to distribute weight. That's what a weight distributing hitch is for.
@@gmcdenali7178 Agreed. But it does not reduce the load on the rear axle of the tow vehicle, or increase the load on the front axle... or the trailer's axle(s).
Many of the trucks fresh off the production line are unnecessarily jacked up, I think I’d just lower the truck to reach a more traditional ride height.
I don’t know what y’all thought removing the bump stops was needed. Because when I did my 4"6" drop kit from IHC never took the bump stop cups off, I took the bump stop bushings themselves but NEVER had frame touch rear end at all
Looks to me like 2 pieces of metal welded to the frame to form the shackle and were the 2 pieces don't meet there is some rust.If it was rotten metal it would be puffed out and scaly.
hello i have a 2014 silverado 1500 5.3L Z771 LT. at the moment the front have 3 inch drop by 2 inch drop spindles with oem coilover springs and belltech struts to give me a 1 inch drop. im leaning on the drivers side. plz help me thank you so much
@Mike Anderson i know people that lowered there trucks like this and then used then to haul things snd overloaded them all the weight is being carried on the ubolts ive seen them notch the frame and wound up cracking in the notch also
Mr Sunshines moving all that weight down a couple inches means there’s less leverage for it to pull or roll the body during cornering, it actually makes a big difference, now to keep it realistic, it’s still a truck, it’s not going to hang with a sports car, but it really livens them up.
@@Bushspaperplanes bro I don’t mean a full notch like the kits u get but you do need to clear about 2” of frame I know this bc Iv seen it if you do it correctly so no not negative
dont worry both trucks will be back within a few weeks needing new supension n tires from the excessive pressure put on them thanks to the kits installed! Expect to see these trucks in the shop alot now
Let's spend all this money on parts and put in the rusty and going to fail soon wheel bearings/hubs..... The time you waste unbolting that hunk is not a savings over doing it again later. Guess Moog was not a sponsor.
I know, right? I lived in Houston back in 87, and so many people were driving brand new trucks modified so they can dance the boxes! Very creative, but they were welfare cases that spent EVERYTHING to get STATUS. I stared at mine for 5 years before I was able to purchase it. It's a diamond in the rough, just needs polishing
That Silverado probably pretty cheap... we mod vehicles to make them more enjoyable... I understand where ur coming from but for us it's so much better
It's an opinion jackass... and the main point I see is handling... more fun to drive cuz they handle way better. I know cuz I got a lowered truck and it turns way better
Why are americans so obsessed with trucks, when they never even use them for truck needs. Don't need a truck to drive your kids to karate practice and go to the grocery store...
En lo personal no me gustan las camionetas con suspensión baja... Se ven desproporcionadas, pierden armonía, incluso automóviles qué de fabrica se ven bien, los terminan bajando, quedan horribles...
Title should read. How to ruin/destroy trucks! i myself never understod why anyone in the right mind would want to lift a truck let alone lower it...guess ppl just like wasting money on suspension parts and new tires wearing out alot faster...wish i had a shit ton of money to buy a new set of tires every 6-8 months. But then again being a tech myself at my local dealership...i love seeing crap like this because it brings in easy gravy work on a monthly basis when customers come in crying n whining there ride is shit or they got noise from destroyed tires due to there lift/drop or constantly wearing out of suspension parts due to excessive stress put on them from the lift/drop!
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I had a 2013 Ram 1500 5.7Hemi and I did the IHC 4"6" drop kit. That was an absolute nightmare on that rear end. Now I have a 2009 Silverado 5.3 Vortec, and I’m about to lower this one with a 3"5" drop. I actually really don’t wanna do a 4"6" kit again
I WILL SAY THIS, THE RAM IS A PAIN IN THE ASS DOING IT IN YOUR DRIVEWAY. With the IHC 4"6" kit you HAVE to cut off the rear brackets OFF the rear end. Itself. That was the most annoying part but I do appreciate dodge doing the rear suspension as they did and the disc brakes in the rear too. And also the IHC Kit you’re able to use the STOCK front shocks and springs. It was just control arm drop cups
Woah that bad 😨
Nice job, looks good .Thanks for sharing.
5:35 “since we’re already in there” is why my wife doesn’t know how much it all costs 😂
Actually, a panhard bar never centers the axle, rather it shoves it off to the side as the suspension compresses. A watts link however does hold the axle in the center.
Great information
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You make it look so easy to remove the springs from the Silverado. Mine are riveted in at the front of the spring, can't just unbolt them. And the rear might as well be, too, those bushings are brutal to get free.
Woah riveted?!?
@@SK-sq9mf The leaf bracket to the frame would have to be cut to change the height of the front of the leaf packs. The rear of the leaf pack mount was ultra-hard to get free. That part you use drop shackles, which cause the pack to sit angled heel-up. Important to use pinion shims as well for the driveshaft to sit right.
My 05 crew cab has welded front leaf hanger.. i just used a flip kit, 2" rear leaf lift hangers and stock shackles for a 4 inch drop
@@hondaservicecenter Nice. 4" drop is probably just right. I didn't go flip kit on my '11 long box, just drop shackles, 4x4 block + overload spring delete. Also cut front springs a touch. Maybe 1.5/3.5 drop
@@KF1 I cut 1 coil on the front rides good
I think tho may be one of the only vids I’ve seen where they actually stake nuts.
When you tighten the ball joints and tie rods you are supposed to hold the ball joint/tie rod in place and only turn the nut. That is why they have the hex on the end. Also you should not hit aluminum to release ball joints and tie rods. They have tools for that. You can use a pogo jack to put the suspension in the position where it will be on the ground before you tighten the bolts.
I would never dare hit a ball joint. Nope. 🤫
Props if these are the hosts personal trucks and I'm really liking the 2013 ram stance.
Why didn't Ram do this from the factory?
Ram hasn't had a sport truck since the SRT-10 in the early 2000s, guess there isn't enough of a market, and not surprising they wouldn't offer a lowering kit, probably not enough people would buy it.
@@Spinal2111 yeah, most people buy rams for work
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I love that they left in the, wanna do that again?
Love this information
I remember the 90's, yeah the huge fad of race trucks! 🤣
Wish my ball joints and hubs came out like that
All suspension bolts tightened with the wheels in the air leads to a LOT of binding when you put weight on the rubber. Wow, why do I keep watching these?
Hey PowerNation I love your comments section on this vid. Real shit storm lmao
It should be noted that air springs will level your truck to eliminate squat. This is great for hauling but when towing, it does nothing to distribute weight. That's what a weight distributing hitch is for.
Helps prevent squat from tongue weight
@@gmcdenali7178 Agreed. But it does not reduce the load on the rear axle of the tow vehicle, or increase the load on the front axle... or the trailer's axle(s).
@@grosbeakmc Yes
Nice show guys but Jeremy bumpus that wasn't a pre-wired solenoid that was a pre-wired relay.. but no worries great job guys 👍
Gimme the Silverado and I'll enjoy it
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Many of the trucks fresh off the production line are unnecessarily jacked up, I think I’d just lower the truck to reach a more traditional ride height.
Great video! Thanks for sharing, could you do a 3rd or 4th gen Ram, thank you!
They did that ram is a 4th gen
Oh Yeah, Lowrider - works for me!
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the new drop spindels are cast iron, the oe are alu, so adding unsprung weight, well that´s not the best way.
but i like the hemi he he
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I don’t know what y’all thought removing the bump stops was needed. Because when I did my 4"6" drop kit from IHC never took the bump stop cups off, I took the bump stop bushings themselves but NEVER had frame touch rear end at all
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Hell yeah dropped trucks🌚
All the khuuuuuuuzzzz saying it can get lower even more lower they want the frame scrapping the floor 💀😂😭🤣
At 10:20 I noticed that the frame by the shackle appears to be rotten. ????
Looks to me like 2 pieces of metal welded to the frame to form the shackle and were the 2 pieces don't meet there is some rust.If it was rotten metal it would be puffed out and scaly.
Saw that too. I'd be tempted to weld it closed
Where can I get the skinnier lower ball joint nut ? For the Silverado
Did you needed a 2 piece driveshaft for project white noice. Thanks
What's the rear sawy bar kit? It completely skipped that part..
Test drive? Hows the Chevy ride now?
What’s up fellas I have a 2010 4x4 Silverado family cab. What kit would I need to drop it
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hello i have a 2014 silverado 1500 5.3L Z771 LT. at the moment the front have 3 inch drop by 2 inch drop spindles with oem coilover springs and belltech struts to give me a 1 inch drop. im leaning on the drivers side. plz help me thank you so much
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good vid but not a lot of 2 wheel drives produced these days
Is the southern states they sell a ton of them plus they tow more. Ever notice most of the hot shot haulers use 2 wheel drive trucks.
That's literally not true at all. lol
james finnegan what world are you living in?
nk 2wd is it even a truck or an el camino?
@@suicidaljell It is... the cab and bed are not connected it's definitely not an El Camino
How did the alignment turn out on the Silverado,did u have any camber issues.
I dont like the axle flip on the chevy it puts all the weight on the u bolts instead of the springs
@Mike Anderson i know people that lowered there trucks like this and then used then to haul things snd overloaded them all the weight is being carried on the ubolts ive seen them notch the frame and wound up cracking in the notch also
What would you recommend to fix the Chevy lean in the front on my 00 Silverado?
Where are these trucks now? For sale???😀
Why didn't you finish project White noise.
All this nice shit and a harbor freight drill
Except an alignment
What is the purpose? Just to be noticed!
Mr Sunshines not much really, but they do handle a lot better, just more fun to drive.
Mr Sunshines moving all that weight down a couple inches means there’s less leverage for it to pull or roll the body during cornering, it actually makes a big difference, now to keep it realistic, it’s still a truck, it’s not going to hang with a sports car, but it really livens them up.
rk22cc why are sports cars so low? Handling!
Alot more fun to drive... if you know how to drive ya can drive em like a sports car
No “ c “ notch tho? Hmmm pretty sure you need that “c” notch to get full travel of rear suspension
Only if you’re bagging it. Otherwise it’s just fine
@@Bushspaperplanes even with out bags you need a small notch not a full on “c” notch maybe but you will still need room for the axle travel
@@jeffreybaker5835 negative bud.
@@Bushspaperplanes bro I don’t mean a full notch like the kits u get but you do need to clear about 2” of frame I know this bc Iv seen it if you do it correctly so no not negative
For anyone wondering the rams wheels are kmc slides 651
I'm not a huge ram guy but I will admit these are some really good looking wheels that they offer
Kmc makes those wheels with a multi pattern so they can fit other trucks I had them.on a 94 Chevy 1500 in 24x8 on front and 24x10 in rear
DemonSpeed should’ve left it with the stock wheels
Do not buy those airlifts (the 1000's) Yea, they have a warranty, but they'll pop over and over and you have to change them.
Ball joints looks worn on both trucks
dont worry both trucks will be back within a few weeks needing new supension n tires from the excessive pressure put on them thanks to the kits installed! Expect to see these trucks in the shop alot now
Scypheroth makes sense, does completely screw up the geometry. I mean, they have the tools and shop, wouldn’t take long to swap it
kunu98 60K miles on both, what do you expect?
ACPHOTO figures they swap them out if they’re that loose. It already was dismantled on the lift
Let's spend all this money on parts and put in the rusty and going to fail soon wheel bearings/hubs..... The time you waste unbolting that hunk is not a savings over doing it again later. Guess Moog was not a sponsor.
Exterior rust doesn’t mean the bearing is failing.
Dropping your truck is like dropping a baby
Wouldn't it be a cheaper, simpler, stronger design to just supply a shorter panhard bar?
or an adjustable one
einar even better, yes!
That Silverado is a nice truck but ur loosing quite a bit of power with that exhaust
i never understood paying thousands to modify a vehicle vs. paying it off. meh to each is their own.
I know, right? I lived in Houston back in 87, and so many people were driving brand new trucks modified so they can dance the boxes! Very creative, but they were welfare cases that spent EVERYTHING to get STATUS.
I stared at mine for 5 years before I was able to purchase it. It's a diamond in the rough, just needs polishing
That Silverado probably pretty cheap... we mod vehicles to make them more enjoyable... I understand where ur coming from but for us it's so much better
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The dodge looks better. The Chevy still looks like a fleet truck
I have a 2013 GMC 4x4, 1500, can my truck be droped 2" on front and 4" on the rear?
Check on summit racing. I know they sell drop kits for all trucks.
@@gregp.3725 ok thanks
No problem. Hope you find what you are looking for
Why would you want to drop a 4x4?
@@bmstylee Well its the truck i have when i injured my knees and want it easier to get in and out of.
How much do u guys charge to check my 07 tahoe. I need to get it back to them glory days
Them truck are not on the ground
Paint the bare metal? Don’t you mean wax it?
2/4 drop, what a waste. go big or go homeee
Some people like to use their truck for work and still look good
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Why didn’t you put new wheels on white noise? Ugly ass factory wheels 🤮
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What?
I don't see the purpose of lowering a truck - I realize some might think it's cool
but IT"S NOT
Good thing it’s not your truck or money.
Easier to get in and out off, easier to put things in the bed, lots of reasons plus it does look nice.
I'm disabled & I have a 2012 Colorado.. dropping it would make it easier to get into
It's an opinion jackass... and the main point I see is handling... more fun to drive cuz they handle way better. I know cuz I got a lowered truck and it turns way better
Why are americans so obsessed with trucks, when they never even use them for truck needs. Don't need a truck to drive your kids to karate practice and go to the grocery store...
Because we can. So what. Keep crying.
I use mine for hauling MX bikes and pulling either a boat or a trailer at times.
It's a lot easier to bang my wife in a crew cab truck versus a tiny little civic. Js 😁
Mason Comeaux hahahaha isn’t that the truth.
ACPHOTO why are you even watching the fucking video then?
En lo personal no me gustan las camionetas con suspensión baja... Se ven desproporcionadas, pierden armonía, incluso automóviles qué de fabrica se ven bien, los terminan bajando, quedan horribles...
Lowrider
That makes your truck totally useless unless you are a city rat which I aint
Don't hate on low truck man.everyone has there prefance on how they like there truck.
@@dsiner1obslifedziner157 Fk off. "there prefance on how they like there truck" aye? Apparently English is a subjective language as well.
Just cause you like drop trucks dont make you a "city rat",everyone has there prefance on how they like there truck.
@@dsiner1obslifedziner157 Dumbass, no one except an illiterate ghetto rat like yourself has expressed a "prefance" for "there" drop trucks.
@@sdushdiu stay off the channel you punk Bitch, you probably don't kno anything, about truck performance.
Title should read. How to ruin/destroy trucks!
i myself never understod why anyone in the right mind would want to lift a truck let alone lower it...guess ppl just like wasting money on suspension parts and new tires wearing out alot faster...wish i had a shit ton of money to buy a new set of tires every 6-8 months.
But then again being a tech myself at my local dealership...i love seeing crap like this because it brings in easy gravy work on a monthly basis when customers come in crying n whining there ride is shit or they got noise from destroyed tires due to there lift/drop or constantly wearing out of suspension parts due to excessive stress put on them from the lift/drop!
Quite simple, a lifted truck is fun as a toy. Lowered is dumb but lifted is good for off road purposes. Just don't use it as a daily driver.
Lowering the car is not the problem bad alignment is what is what gives you uneven tyrewear.
@@einar8019 you misunderstand me, lowering a truck is completely useless. That is all
@@cpfaclan3681 why ? Cause some dumbass on the internet said Soo lmao fucken dumbass .
@@beto_lsx497 no because it has no beneficial gain to the truck😂 A trucks purpose is to be a hauler. Not a race car