I read a biography on Checo's younger years that said when Checo used to kart in Mexico, his dad wouldn't buy him new tires so he would always use his old tires or even get wasted tires that still had a bit of life on them from the other kart racers that had the resources to get new ones. The biography said that he did this so often that he even started to save tires during his races just to have them for the next one. I love Checo he's a real Mexican legend. And a shining bright light of hope in a country were bad news is heard of far too often. Venga Checo!!!!
Every time I remind myself how little 1 or 2 tenths of a second is, and how these drivers are measured according to such split second differences, how they can squeeze out a tenth or so in a given lap, I feel such awe at their driving abilities. They’re doing this precision driving at the absolute limit of the fastest cars in the world, while adjusting 3 or 4 car parameters per corner sequence, at extraordinary speeds, under high pressure, trying not to crash and possibly die, oh, and win points or a race for their team.
just surviving the race, not crashing, and taking care of all the car's settings and temperatures and stuff already sounds hard as fuck, and then they expect you to be fast too
@@daniel_svs this is exactly why they start racing at 8 or 9 years old, sometimes even younger Same for people who do other sports. Of course there are exceptions to this, but most of the people who make it to the grand stage in their respected sports, do so by starting to do the sport at a very young age
Checo had his tyre saving training at Force India where 1 stop was a defacto setting. Him and the Hulk were very good at it and they got some great results by doing that. Fantastic to see Checo carry that over to the Red Bull. :)
It went further back even, it was Kamui Kobayashi as his teammate who taught Sergio some tricks for tire saving as the Japanese is also titled the tire whisperer. This was said in an interview in 2020 I think
@@davidmusil4145 Checo has always been a tire master, since GP2 or even in his karting days. Kamui has nothing to do with it. In an interview before behind the grid, he mentions his ability with the tires.
@@SantiagoAntonutti In his debut in Australia 2011 Checo impressed the whole of F1 by making only one stop, including Kamui, who did not explain how Checo had done it. In GP2 he also had incredible races saving tires, that is, Kamui had no influence, Checo's Karting races also saved tires, it's a skill he has had since he was little.
Checo said he "learned a lot from Kobayashi on how to work with the tyres…" and Kamui explained the technique of choosing one turn/sector of the track where you go slower, while still pushing hard in the other sections of the track on Beyond the Grid. What Perez actually has, is a special ability to go very fast & very long on the hard tyres. He’s essentially getting medium tyre performance, out a hard tyre. I don’t know how he does it… his pace increases slightly, then it just stays there forever!! Meanwhile, everyone else is losing lap time & tyre performance.
@@sheepbeep5247 Helmut mentioned it in an interview, he left it as a "maybe" though and that the gearbox was almost at the end of its life, only Red Bull knows why right now or someone more knowledgeable than me xD
Love the recognition you’re giving to Checo, I remember in Turkey in one of his first races most people were on 3 stops and he had only one 😂 everyone thought the transmission was wrong
Tbh I haven't seen much of the tyre whisperer thing this year. Max seems to nearly be doing a better job at it so far in 2022, which is strange. Come to think of it, even last year some races Perez didn't really make them last that much longer. Hope Perez gets to his tyre whisperer skills back to his RP/FI days
At the other teams he raced for, they would have to try those alternate strategies more often for a chance at points. At RB, they have the pace to be out in the front and win on pace more often then a crazy strategy gamble.
you get a glimpse of that by watching them roll on a formation lap, or an out lap in quali... during the race, temp on tires goes up by cornering fast (locking them up is not a choice, as it squares them)
Love every Vid guys. Thanks so much! As an automotive technician for 25 years I was drawn to F1 for the technology aspect 22 years ago and have only missed one race since then. I LOVE. learning about the Tech of F1
You know why I rate your channel the highest amongst f1 RUclipsrs. You’re not click baiting. Everyone in the community tries to make your kind of videos, but really they end up taking the piss. They should probably make shorts. Because this is a type of video that needs prior knowledge to understand the phenomenon in full depth. 😂 People are making videos about post conferences trying to do In depth about off topic issues. Anyway continue to be you mate. Fingers crossed for 10k new subscribers🤣we all want to see what happened.
Please make a video about Vettels driving style. People say he likes oversteer, while other say he likes understeer. And does Vettel like a stiff front spring and front roll bar, while softer on the rear? And is he very good on street circuits, because of the soft rear in combinaton of the v-line? And does he like much rear wing or consistent rear downforce or both?
From what i know he likes a car that has a strong rear end becouse he is quite early on the throttle. Thats why he was so good at redbull with the double and/or blown defuser. And thats why he had so many spins in in the ferraris btween 2018-2020. These cars had problems with stalling rear end and were built for mostly straight line speed
@@S85B50Engine the tyres were much harder back then. Thats why sennas technique was so fast. He whould use thottle blips to rotate the car and becouse the tyres were harder he whouldnt have to save them
Actually, it was the Lotus car that was nice to the tires. It was horrible over 1 lap pace but great in the races, especially when they raced at track with high degradation.
@@GameOver-nm2us did you know that the car can help taking care of the tyres? I think the ferrari in 2019 had problems with front grip as the car was very harsh with the front tyres. The car does matter in things like this lol
@@moustaxx_7390 did you know that the driver help with...uhh...idk, DRIVING THE CAR, did you know thsy if you grt a less talented person to drive the car that Kimi drove it wonbe the same? Did you know that?
@@GameOver-nm2us what kind of argument is that? lmfao Mercedes in 2013 was probably the fastest car over one lap but it ate those tires in the race. If Kimi was such a master at taking care of his tires, why didn't we see that in Ferrari or Alfa then?
He did well but it's not just to make them last but to do so whilst being competitive over and over , that's why Checo is considered amongst the best in tyre management, not to say a 10th place in a Williams is not considered a great finish Alex was great there, but then again Checo has done things like that over and over with podiums and recently even race wins, so not fair to say Albon is now the best at that just considering one race.
@@fmg182 Exactly, even back at Sauber his first f1 race he only pitted once and pushed like a sick man much like what people here are remembering about Gilles, and he got a 5th, he was later disqualified I don't remember why but he did that his first race in the category. He has shown that trait from the start.
I love this stuff guys and gals.. Thank you so much! Cheers! I'd love to see Vettel's tire skills back in t his championship days. As I'm sure you remember, he went to the Pirelli factory during the winter break and no one else did. Hence a masterful season understanding the tires and their properties. Thanks again.
When Checo was a child and competed in Kart, his limited resources limited him to use new tires every race, yet he still achieved great results in national competitions and it is said that this is the reason why he is so good at tire management.
As an engineer i have a slight critic. Saving your tires for a long stint is all about smoothening out the load of the tire, while still pushing enough load trough them to keep them at temperature. So the total amount of work around the lap stays roughly the same, to keep your laptime, but you avoid to high and to low. Especially g's. Lets start with braking. If we go from 300km/h to 100km/h we always dicipate the same amount of energy. But if we brake for longer we get several benefits. First and most important drag. Drag and downforce are work against the air, so we can dicipate energy from the car into the air. So win-win less energy in the car and we didn't even dicipate it trough the tire. 😁 we also make more dirty air something Lewis did a lot to Vettel. Second one is regenerative braking of the rear. Put's mechanical load trough the tire, but we convert the energy to electricity rather than heat. So this part of braking wont heat up the tire only the heat generated by friction will. A win for saving tires. Last is pure mechanical braking like at the front. If we brake for longer the brake has more time to convert the mechanical energy in the car to heat energy. So we can dicipate the same heat over a longer time but at lower temperatures. Here we have a synergy with downforce as well. At high downforce the tire will slide less. So we should do a lot of braking at high speed, and less braking at low speed so we keep a constant ratio of required g's and the max g's possible. This part is where Checo is so good and why he is so good in tire preservation and defending. Second thing is cornering. We want to apply smooth g's so we have to transition from braking into steering very smooth. Every tenth of a g we don't need for braking anymore we want to add in steering. Also we either want a longer route at the same optimal speed to get a flatter g graph, or we want the same optimal rotation but at a lower speed so the peak in g's wont hurt the tires. Usually you want a wider line with a faster exit speed to help you with tire preservation on the straight. Third is the straight: to keep it linked to the corner every tenth you don't need for turning anymore you wonna add to acceleration. So you actually pick up the throttle really early risking to go wide. You did not build up that much temperature in the brakes aka a lot of that energy has already left the car in form of hot air. So you can't afford to turn for too long without brake or gaß or you loose too much temperature! Remember we want things to be smooth. But most important for tire preservation on the straight: a tire rotates proportional to speed and a engine produces roughly the same power at every speed. So at low speed the engine will scrub the same tiny piece of tire along the surface for longer, until it can rest all the way around. So you don't want to put too much power into the rear at low speed and might boost your mid to top speed if you have a battery like F1. On the other hand your tire will cool down for an eternity at low speed. So we wont be at low speed for as little as possible. So try to exit the corner with as much speed as possible, so the tire is up rotating and will be hurt by the engine only for very small amount of times. And that for me is the reason why Max was so damn fast all season. He found the right sweetspot off bringing the brakes up to temperature, allow for fast rotation of the car at low speed and bring the car up to speed befor the tires get to cold to handle the power. Max and Sainz actually never fully lifted at some corners. They probably cranked up recovery braking and tried to max out the battery in the corner. Which you have to do if you coast a lot into a corner.I Despite you can calculate all of this stuff in neat differential equations that only the engineer who wrote them fully understands it really is a sport and art to cope with all of these compromises at the speed these things are going. I just wish they were allowed to play even more with the amount of energy they can recover and deploy while staying within a fuel limit. Makes the pace of a car far less predictable.
THANK YOU for this video. Ever since I got into F1 (end of last year) I've really struggled to understand tires, compounds, and wear. This was a fantastic explanation with great examples. Thank you!
I think Lewis convinced me he's a good driver when his tyre stayed fresher than everyone else when he was stuck in the back for one of the races. You could say a car configured properly, even if it has issues for winning, could aid in saving tyres, that'd be a good topic to explore.
I feel like Seb is being left out of this vid, might be intended, might be not. But I think he's also great at saving tires and extending his stints, some of the last GP's are proof for that :)
@@nobrakes7892 With this formulation I meant that he might be left out since driver isn't of the opinion that he is that good in saving tires or that he didnt mentioned him because he had enough examples, I don't know. But I'm of the opinion that he should be included.
Considering Max drives faster and holds tyres as long in the same car, I don't quite think there's any secret sauce to Pérez's tyre management. Checo is just a better driver at that than most of the grid, but not an unmatched prodigy of tyre management.
I was thinking the exact same. In Azerbaijan it was particularly obvious. Perez was in the lead at the start. But he could not pull away nor save his tyres. He can simply not manage his tyres when driving at a race winning pace. Max does this all the time, Lewis last year as well
One thing you overlooked here is that the compound for each track this year differs. For example, next race is Silverstone, now the hard compound used in Canada last weekend will be the soft compound in Silverstone. That's their commitment to f1 this season going above and beyond to make sure the cars are fast and safe.
this is not new for a while each compound had its own name and colour, so you could tell right away which 3 were at any given track. although their naming scheme was stupid, since it led to more compounds that were "soft" of some kind than any others. then in 2019 it was decided to switch to numbers for the compounds, and just name and colour them soft, medium and hard relative to the other compounds at that track.
Great video, but would just like to say that there are additional mechanisms on top of just the deformation grip you mention in the video (micro and macro features on the track surface and the tyre squishing into those to provide mechanical keying), including adhesion (literal molecular bonding between the tyre and the track surface, "stickiness" of the tyres, also affected by how they deform into the track surface, since it affects actual contact area) and tearing/wear generated grip. Yup, "tearing/wear" is also its own kind of grip type, as explained by inside racing technology: "High local stress can deform the internal structure of the rubber past the point of elastic recovery. When polymer bonds and crosslinks are stressed to failure the material can't recover completely, and this can cause tearing. Tearing absorbs energy, resulting in additional friction forces in the contact surface." These three are usually considered the main methods that tyres generate grip with, and each can react differently to track surfaces, temperatures, load, etc. A good example of this is wet weather, which can almost completely remove the adhesion effect (similarly to why sticky tape doesn't work well on damp or wet surfaces), leaving deformation and tearing as the main methods of generating grip.
As far as I'm aware most of the tire wizardy actually came from kobayashi, teaching checo. I read it online some time ago but i dont know how true that is
Already subscribed but I want to see one of your biggest mistakes. Or really any content that leans more directly on your actual experience. Keep up the great work.
@@bokebryant3985 this year's tires are more durable so I think alot of drivers are finding it easier to manage their tires look at albon in Australia, that would have never been possible with the previous gen of tires
Some say he developed that technique whilst his earlier karting days as he very often had to race on used rubber, so he learned how to get the most out of each set of tyres to overcome low budget constraints.
this is very informative video. i saw on some old videos that shows tyre temperature thru the thermal cameras. why we don't see that anymore? also, how pit wall asses the status of tyres while the cars on tracks?
I actually think a driver who's often overlooked when talking about saving tires is Seb. He had quite a few instances of running reeeeally long while remaining at competetive speed in the last few seasons. And I can't help but think that for him it's an acquired rather than a "natural" skill. When he's was sort of competing against Hamiltion for the championship there were a few races where Ham beat him based on being better a saving tires and I really think since then Seb has become much much better at it to the point where I would probably put him above Max in a ranking about this particular skill (not above Checo though and maybe on par with Ham).
This is so true. Driver's saving the Tyre by sacrificing a little bit of lap time during the race! So we can't compare which driver is faster during the race. Some driver push too hard on their tyre, he get a fast lap but he would either need an extra pit stop or he will face tyre problem later.
It's not just going blistering fast... certain drivers like Clark, Stewart, Lauda and Piquet had a knack for conserving not only the tyres but the entire car, a very important thing from the 1980s back because cars broke down so much more (wait, 2022 is looking like that!). Piquet, for example was known to his mechanics for having a car in infinitely better shape than most of his teammates, not counting Lauda, at the end of each race. One item that was especially susceptible to breakage were the pre sequential gearboxes, and the four drivers cited above were particularly good at preserving them. Villeneuve comes to mind here; super fast, but a godzilla inside the cockpit.
Interestingly, at Melbourne this year, Lewis got even better life out of his first set. At around lap 20 he was actually able to put Checo under some pressure.
So, is it a good idea to push harder on left hand turns on a track mostly having right handers? Does checo's tyre saving ability has to do with setup or its just purely driving style?
Great vid as usual. Is this something which could impact drivers simply because the teams don't understand it: Team player vs a driver who is much more individual and head strong?
Yeah but i would say lewis is better, he saves tyres and he also has that raw pace somehow. In spanish gp this year, after lap 1 pitstop, he was on a 2 stop strategy (that didnt work out that well for many) but lewis aced it (and when he had the soft tyres at one point, he kept stringing fastest laps together and that didnt affect tyre life that much)
Another thing that is not mentioned and that is said in a report about Checo's life in Mexico made in 2011, is that when he started in Karting they did not have much money to invest in tires for the Kart, so his father had races where he had to use tires for two or three more races to save costs, definitely the ability to take care of tires had to be learned almost forced as a child
Tyre management thats not only making them last long, it’s a general skill and sensibility with the throttle, feeling of the car in general that allows you to work with tyres and find the grip in all conditions, with all types of tyres, control the temperature… It’s an overall feeling, and the driver who delivers master class the last few races on tyres is Verstappen… And since the begenning ! His first F1 win was in Spain on a race of tyre management…
Button was kinda good with the tires but he said sometimes he was too smooth, his tires got cold and he almost never was able to get them back to the optimum temps.
please do put more info on you in a video whether it be next video or not, you’ve had an amazing career and i’ve watched others videos on your career and found it very interesting, would be great to hear it from your point of view
Today in an interview in Spanish Checo mentions that the tire degradation problems he had in Monaco and Baku were due to the fact that his driving style to take care of tires was the same as in other teams but that in RedBull it must be different. And that it has nothing to do with a set-up more focused on qualifying than on the race.
Great video! Thanks! I was also wondering: how much of the current way of driving in F1 is just because of physics and rules -the cars move in the most efficient way possible within the limitations and that determines almost all driving decisions? Or does a degree of style or fashion also play into this? I mean would it be reasonable to think that in a decade or so, even within the same kind of limitations, common driving styles could be drastically different? Are there new strategies to be discovered here or are we just juggling known possibilities? I would be very curious to know how you think about this.
F1 requests that the tires degrade on purpose. They could last the whole race buts it's done on purpose to keep the race interesting. At least this aspect will be similar in the future.
Lewis. Checho and Max know when losing a tenth on one corner will save your tyres enough to be two tenths faster overall on the next lap. Thats their genius.
Who's driving style do you want me to break down next?
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George Russell
Bring back Fernando's as it got blocked
Vettel, Kimi, Button or Russell would be great, very informative video as always 🏎💨💯
Alain Prost please
Tiger Woods.
Legend says, Checo has never bought tires for his road cars
I do wonder if Pirelli give him free tyres
@@Colby_0-3_IRL_and_title_fights y does pirelli need to give him tires hes the master of defense
That's a lewis hamilton thing
FYI age is almost as important as treadwear on tires, that would be dangerous
Some say...
If not for mandatory pit stops, Checo would still be running the tyres he had at the 2011 Australian Grand Prix.
Ah man this is gold 😂😂😂
Yeah! I remember, P7 and disqualified in his first race on F1. 🙂🇲🇽 🏎️
@@joseloredo3615 why didn't he pit?
@@cricstar2087 both Saubers were disqualified for an illegal rear wing
@@nbain66 oh ok ty
I read a biography on Checo's younger years that said when Checo used to kart in Mexico, his dad wouldn't buy him new tires so he would always use his old tires or even get wasted tires that still had a bit of life on them from the other kart racers that had the resources to get new ones. The biography said that he did this so often that he even started to save tires during his races just to have them for the next one. I love Checo he's a real Mexican legend. And a shining bright light of hope in a country were bad news is heard of far too often. Venga Checo!!!!
Where can i find this biography? Id love to read it (:
@@MrQuequito Ditto!
Its more like "Vamos Checo"
Every time I remind myself how little 1 or 2 tenths of a second is, and how these drivers are measured according to such split second differences, how they can squeeze out a tenth or so in a given lap, I feel such awe at their driving abilities. They’re doing this precision driving at the absolute limit of the fastest cars in the world, while adjusting 3 or 4 car parameters per corner sequence, at extraordinary speeds, under high pressure, trying not to crash and possibly die, oh, and win points or a race for their team.
Most people can’t think that deep.
While racing they are actually few seconds slower than quali ... Enough time
It becomes natural doing all this things. It takes training
just surviving the race, not crashing, and taking care of all the car's settings and temperatures and stuff already sounds hard as fuck, and then they expect you to be fast too
@@daniel_svs this is exactly why they start racing at 8 or 9 years old, sometimes even younger
Same for people who do other sports. Of course there are exceptions to this, but most of the people who make it to the grand stage in their respected sports, do so by starting to do the sport at a very young age
Checo had his tyre saving training at Force India where 1 stop was a defacto setting. Him and the Hulk were very good at it and they got some great results by doing that. Fantastic to see Checo carry that over to the Red Bull. :)
It went further back even, it was Kamui Kobayashi as his teammate who taught Sergio some tricks for tire saving as the Japanese is also titled the tire whisperer. This was said in an interview in 2020 I think
@@SantiagoAntonutti Yeah I remember him saying that on the Beyond the grid podcast
@@davidmusil4145 Checo has always been a tire master, since GP2 or even in his karting days. Kamui has nothing to do with it. In an interview before behind the grid, he mentions his ability with the tires.
@@SantiagoAntonutti In his debut in Australia 2011 Checo impressed the whole of F1 by making only one stop, including Kamui, who did not explain how Checo had done it. In GP2 he also had incredible races saving tires, that is, Kamui had no influence, Checo's Karting races also saved tires, it's a skill he has had since he was little.
I guess you mean "default" not "defacto".
Checo said he "learned a lot from Kobayashi on how to work with the tyres…" and Kamui explained the technique of choosing one turn/sector of the track where you go slower, while still pushing hard in the other sections of the track on Beyond the Grid. What Perez actually has, is a special ability to go very fast & very long on the hard tyres. He’s essentially getting medium tyre performance, out a hard tyre. I don’t know how he does it… his pace increases slightly, then it just stays there forever!! Meanwhile, everyone else is losing lap time & tyre performance.
If only his engine lasted longer than the tires.
It was a gearbox problem not engine and tht too maybe coz of his crash in qualifying
It was the gearbox but yeah lol
@@goureesankar in Canada he hit the nose only into the barrier so how does he break the grearbox
@@sheepbeep5247 Helmut mentioned it in an interview, he left it as a "maybe" though and that the gearbox was almost at the end of its life, only Red Bull knows why right now or someone more knowledgeable than me xD
@@sheepbeep5247 the force of the crash can cause internal damage, even if looks intact.
Love the recognition you’re giving to Checo, I remember in Turkey in one of his first races most people were on 3 stops and he had only one 😂 everyone thought the transmission was wrong
Tbh I haven't seen much of the tyre whisperer thing this year. Max seems to nearly be doing a better job at it so far in 2022, which is strange. Come to think of it, even last year some races Perez didn't really make them last that much longer. Hope Perez gets to his tyre whisperer skills back to his RP/FI days
Because max always been excellent in tire saving it's why he won his first race in red bull in spain.
In Monaco he did a decent job, for what that's worth.
At the other teams he raced for, they would have to try those alternate strategies more often for a chance at points. At RB, they have the pace to be out in the front and win on pace more often then a crazy strategy gamble.
@@bradweinberger6907 Dunno, I think in Monaco he also burned quite quickly through his tyres but Monaco being Monaco still nobody could overtake him.
Alex Albon is the actual tyre whisperer
Finally someone explained this! Can you make another video explaining how to put temp on the tires and manage that please!
a few drift would turn them tires worm as haile berry's private area
you get a glimpse of that by watching them roll on a formation lap, or an out lap in quali... during the race, temp on tires goes up by cornering fast (locking them up is not a choice, as it squares them)
Love every Vid guys. Thanks so much!
As an automotive technician for 25 years I was drawn to F1 for the technology aspect 22 years ago and have only missed one race since then. I LOVE. learning about the Tech of F1
You know why I rate your channel the highest amongst f1 RUclipsrs. You’re not click baiting. Everyone in the community tries to make your kind of videos, but really they end up taking the piss. They should probably make shorts. Because this is a type of video that needs prior knowledge to understand the phenomenon in full depth. 😂
People are making videos about post conferences trying to do In depth about off topic issues.
Anyway continue to be you mate.
Fingers crossed for 10k new subscribers🤣we all want to see what happened.
Well said.
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Please make a video about Vettels driving style. People say he likes oversteer, while other say he likes understeer. And does Vettel like a stiff front spring and front roll bar, while softer on the rear? And is he very good on street circuits, because of the soft rear in combinaton of the v-line? And does he like much rear wing or consistent rear downforce or both?
From what i know he likes a car that has a strong rear end becouse he is quite early on the throttle. Thats why he was so good at redbull with the double and/or blown defuser. And thats why he had so many spins in in the ferraris btween 2018-2020. These cars had problems with stalling rear end and were built for mostly straight line speed
It'd be great if we could hear it from the drivers themselves.
I second this request.
@@foxy126pl6 Basically he has a heavy foot
There's Checo defending and saving tyres, and then there's what Gilles Villeneuve would do back then.
lol the original drift king
@@horissores he would get the tyres to slide and last forever at the same time, he was on another level
@@S85B50Engine also tyre compounds lasted much longer back then. Not like the pirellis
@@S85B50Engine the tyres were much harder back then. Thats why sennas technique was so fast. He whould use thottle blips to rotate the car and becouse the tyres were harder he whouldnt have to save them
@@foxy126pl6 and yet Villeneuve was a lot softer on the tyres, even with the harder compounds
I feel Raikkonen was also very good at it during his time at lotus
Actually, it was the Lotus car that was nice to the tires. It was horrible over 1 lap pace but great in the races, especially when they raced at track with high degradation.
@@rooftopv4664 ahh yes cuz the car drives itself
@@GameOver-nm2us did you know that the car can help taking care of the tyres? I think the ferrari in 2019 had problems with front grip as the car was very harsh with the front tyres. The car does matter in things like this lol
@@moustaxx_7390 did you know that the driver help with...uhh...idk, DRIVING THE CAR, did you know thsy if you grt a less talented person to drive the car that Kimi drove it wonbe the same? Did you know that?
@@GameOver-nm2us what kind of argument is that? lmfao
Mercedes in 2013 was probably the fastest car over one lap but it ate those tires in the race.
If Kimi was such a master at taking care of his tires, why didn't we see that in Ferrari or Alfa then?
Great timing posting this after the awful weekend he endured at Canada ^^
Not tire related per se. At least in the race.
Absolute pain for everyone
@@bradweinberger6907 of course, still absolute pain for any fan
:’(
Lovely content! Thanks for the explanation :) I'd love to see more about techniques to steering, throttle, and braking. Mostly with today's drivers.
doesn't really make sense tho given what happened in baku.
I thought Albon eclipsed that in this year's Australian GP by running almost the entire race in 1 tyre.
Albon is Far Superior
He only pitted because you can't finish a race without pits
He did well but it's not just to make them last but to do so whilst being competitive over and over , that's why Checo is considered amongst the best in tyre management, not to say a 10th place in a Williams is not considered a great finish Alex was great there, but then again Checo has done things like that over and over with podiums and recently even race wins, so not fair to say Albon is now the best at that just considering one race.
@@sergioalejandrorubioflores8905 yeah, and Checo got those podiums and even fastest laps with Sahara Force India
@@fmg182 Exactly, even back at Sauber his first f1 race he only pitted once and pushed like a sick man much like what people here are remembering about Gilles, and he got a 5th, he was later disqualified I don't remember why but he did that his first race in the category. He has shown that trait from the start.
Checo running around Turkey with the good ol' interslicks was a thing of beauty.
I love this stuff guys and gals.. Thank you so much! Cheers!
I'd love to see Vettel's tire skills back in t
his championship days. As I'm sure you remember, he went to the Pirelli factory during the winter break and no one else did. Hence a masterful season understanding the tires and their properties.
Thanks again.
I was waiting for this video for a long time 😍😍😍 Saludos From Checo's Home Land
Thanks!
This guy explains stuff so clearly and simply 👍🏽
Abu Dhabi last year Lewis did an insane job with those old hards, even max with fresh mediums couldn't even keep up
When Checo was a child and competed in Kart, his limited resources limited him to use new tires every race, yet he still achieved great results in national competitions and it is said that this is the reason why he is so good at tire management.
Legend has it that Checo's been using the same rubber in bed since 10 years!
Good one 😂
As an engineer i have a slight critic.
Saving your tires for a long stint is all about smoothening out the load of the tire, while still pushing enough load trough them to keep them at temperature. So the total amount of work around the lap stays roughly the same, to keep your laptime, but you avoid to high and to low. Especially g's.
Lets start with braking. If we go from 300km/h to 100km/h we always dicipate the same amount of energy. But if we brake for longer we get several benefits. First and most important drag. Drag and downforce are work against the air, so we can dicipate energy from the car into the air. So win-win less energy in the car and we didn't even dicipate it trough the tire. 😁 we also make more dirty air something Lewis did a lot to Vettel. Second one is regenerative braking of the rear. Put's mechanical load trough the tire, but we convert the energy to electricity rather than heat. So this part of braking wont heat up the tire only the heat generated by friction will. A win for saving tires. Last is pure mechanical braking like at the front. If we brake for longer the brake has more time to convert the mechanical energy in the car to heat energy. So we can dicipate the same heat over a longer time but at lower temperatures. Here we have a synergy with downforce as well. At high downforce the tire will slide less. So we should do a lot of braking at high speed, and less braking at low speed so we keep a constant ratio of required g's and the max g's possible. This part is where Checo is so good and why he is so good in tire preservation and defending.
Second thing is cornering. We want to apply smooth g's so we have to transition from braking into steering very smooth. Every tenth of a g we don't need for braking anymore we want to add in steering. Also we either want a longer route at the same optimal speed to get a flatter g graph, or we want the same optimal rotation but at a lower speed so the peak in g's wont hurt the tires. Usually you want a wider line with a faster exit speed to help you with tire preservation on the straight.
Third is the straight: to keep it linked to the corner every tenth you don't need for turning anymore you wonna add to acceleration. So you actually pick up the throttle really early risking to go wide. You did not build up that much temperature in the brakes aka a lot of that energy has already left the car in form of hot air. So you can't afford to turn for too long without brake or gaß or you loose too much temperature! Remember we want things to be smooth. But most important for tire preservation on the straight: a tire rotates proportional to speed and a engine produces roughly the same power at every speed. So at low speed the engine will scrub the same tiny piece of tire along the surface for longer, until it can rest all the way around. So you don't want to put too much power into the rear at low speed and might boost your mid to top speed if you have a battery like F1. On the other hand your tire will cool down for an eternity at low speed. So we wont be at low speed for as little as possible. So try to exit the corner with as much speed as possible, so the tire is up rotating and will be hurt by the engine only for very small amount of times.
And that for me is the reason why Max was so damn fast all season. He found the right sweetspot off bringing the brakes up to temperature, allow for fast rotation of the car at low speed and bring the car up to speed befor the tires get to cold to handle the power. Max and Sainz actually never fully lifted at some corners. They probably cranked up recovery braking and tried to max out the battery in the corner. Which you have to do if you coast a lot into a corner.I
Despite you can calculate all of this stuff in neat differential equations that only the engineer who wrote them fully understands it really is a sport and art to cope with all of these compromises at the speed these things are going. I just wish they were allowed to play even more with the amount of energy they can recover and deploy while staying within a fuel limit. Makes the pace of a car far less predictable.
THANK YOU for this video. Ever since I got into F1 (end of last year) I've really struggled to understand tires, compounds, and wear. This was a fantastic explanation with great examples. Thank you!
And once again I think this helped checo this passed weekend from last to second. 🇲🇽 vamos checo
Admit it, a video about Checo, especially about his incredible tyre management, was long overdue.
Clicked faster than tsunoda getting out of the pits 🔥
Respect to you Driver61 you broke it down so well 🙌🏾👏🏾👏🏾
I loved the thermal images that skyf1 used to show how hot/cold the tyres were
I think Lewis convinced me he's a good driver when his tyre stayed fresher than everyone else when he was stuck in the back for one of the races. You could say a car configured properly, even if it has issues for winning, could aid in saving tyres, that'd be a good topic to explore.
1 of 10,000 new subs. Have been watching for a while apologizing now for now having clicked. Let’s see the error. Love the analysis
insane that they're doing all this while keeping a formula 1 car on track. respect.
I feel like Seb is being left out of this vid, might be intended, might be not. But I think he's also great at saving tires and extending his stints, some of the last GP's are proof for that :)
not very impresive, with his pace
"might be intended" every thing isnt a conspiracy
@@nobrakes7892 With this formulation I meant that he might be left out since driver isn't of the opinion that he is that good in saving tires or that he didnt mentioned him because he had enough examples, I don't know. But I'm of the opinion that he should be included.
Alonso too, all great drivers are experts at doing so
@@jako7110 maybe 10 yrs ago, but now he should be in a retirementhome playing bingo. Give us piastri
I just love those breakdowns of driving styles!
Legend says it that the first wheels ever invented are still running, fixed to Checo's minivan.
Considering Max drives faster and holds tyres as long in the same car, I don't quite think there's any secret sauce to Pérez's tyre management. Checo is just a better driver at that than most of the grid, but not an unmatched prodigy of tyre management.
I was thinking the exact same. In Azerbaijan it was particularly obvious. Perez was in the lead at the start. But he could not pull away nor save his tyres. He can simply not manage his tyres when driving at a race winning pace. Max does this all the time, Lewis last year as well
Very few people know this but checo has a special ability to collect discarded rubbers on track to make his tyres gripper.
After miami, i think its more than fair to say max is the best tyre manager on the grid by far.
One thing you overlooked here is that the compound for each track this year differs. For example, next race is Silverstone, now the hard compound used in Canada last weekend will be the soft compound in Silverstone. That's their commitment to f1 this season going above and beyond to make sure the cars are fast and safe.
this is not new
for a while each compound had its own name and colour, so you could tell right away which 3 were at any given track.
although their naming scheme was stupid, since it led to more compounds that were "soft" of some kind than any others.
then in 2019 it was decided to switch to numbers for the compounds, and just name and colour them soft, medium and hard relative to the other compounds at that track.
Great video, but would just like to say that there are additional mechanisms on top of just the deformation grip you mention in the video (micro and macro features on the track surface and the tyre squishing into those to provide mechanical keying), including adhesion (literal molecular bonding between the tyre and the track surface, "stickiness" of the tyres, also affected by how they deform into the track surface, since it affects actual contact area) and tearing/wear generated grip. Yup, "tearing/wear" is also its own kind of grip type, as explained by inside racing technology:
"High local stress can deform the internal structure of the rubber past the point of elastic recovery. When polymer bonds and crosslinks are stressed to failure the material can't recover completely, and this can cause tearing. Tearing absorbs energy, resulting in additional friction forces in the contact surface."
These three are usually considered the main methods that tyres generate grip with, and each can react differently to track surfaces, temperatures, load, etc. A good example of this is wet weather, which can almost completely remove the adhesion effect (similarly to why sticky tape doesn't work well on damp or wet surfaces), leaving deformation and tearing as the main methods of generating grip.
Miss the old checo.
That white RB was bloody gorgeous.
Check and hamilton are very good on breaking near corners , they are very clean and smooth drivers
It also saves tyres a great deal when you drive 1 sec lower lap times compared to your team mate.
Subbed to see the mistake. Plus it was about time since I’ve been enjoying your content.
Its said that checo had to manage tyres at very young age due to how expensive they were in mexico.
I don't think so, his formula career started in europe, I believe he only did karting in Mexico
@@moustaxx_7390 I don't know if this is true or not but karting tires are still expensive
@@mikebic71 yeah they are
As far as I'm aware most of the tire wizardy actually came from kobayashi, teaching checo. I read it online some time ago but i dont know how true that is
This really highlights just how skilled these drivers are
Already subscribed but I want to see one of your biggest mistakes. Or really any content that leans more directly on your actual experience. Keep up the great work.
I thought Verstappen and Hamilton were the masters on saving tires.
Hamilton, yes. Verstappen, are you kidding?
@@lorddrac_dontaskmetodance apparently max became a master too since this year, look at Miami and Imola
@@bokebryant3985 saudi as well
@@bokebryant3985 this year's tires are more durable so I think alot of drivers are finding it easier to manage their tires look at albon in Australia, that would have never been possible with the previous gen of tires
@@lorddrac_dontaskmetodance Max always been excelent in tire management it's why he won spain 2016 his first race in the car.
Some say he developed that technique whilst his earlier karting days as he very often had to race on used rubber, so he learned how to get the most out of each set of tyres to overcome low budget constraints.
this is very informative video.
i saw on some old videos that shows tyre temperature thru the thermal cameras.
why we don't see that anymore?
also, how pit wall asses the status of tyres while the cars on tracks?
I actually think a driver who's often overlooked when talking about saving tires is Seb.
He had quite a few instances of running reeeeally long while remaining at competetive speed in the last few seasons.
And I can't help but think that for him it's an acquired rather than a "natural" skill. When he's was sort of competing against Hamiltion for the championship there were a few races where Ham beat him based on being better a saving tires and I really think since then Seb has become much much better at it to the point where I would probably put him above Max in a ranking about this particular skill (not above Checo though and maybe on par with Ham).
This last race (Canada '22) he was awesome at it. They say his tires were no more than 10 laps old.
this aged well..... checo screwed up the tire management on his last fight for p2
This is so true. Driver's saving the Tyre by sacrificing a little bit of lap time during the race! So we can't compare which driver is faster during the race. Some driver push too hard on their tyre, he get a fast lap but he would either need an extra pit stop or he will face tyre problem later.
He did some extreme tyre management in Canada by DNFing before they could get any wear
speaking about checo, Can you break down why he was so slow in Baku after the VSC
Because actually he isnt that good.
He just did...
Because his job was done for the weekend after the ''No fighting'' call.
🤣😂
It's great to see that you've received permission to use f1 imagery. The video quality has sky rocketed🚀
It's not just going blistering fast... certain drivers like Clark, Stewart, Lauda and Piquet had a knack for conserving not only the tyres but the entire car, a very important thing from the 1980s back because cars broke down so much more (wait, 2022 is looking like that!). Piquet, for example was known to his mechanics for having a car in infinitely better shape than most of his teammates, not counting Lauda, at the end of each race. One item that was especially susceptible to breakage were the pre sequential gearboxes, and the four drivers cited above were particularly good at preserving them. Villeneuve comes to mind here; super fast, but a godzilla inside the cockpit.
My driving style the save tyres is : shifting gears at low - mid rpm at corners and turning the steering wheel slowly to reduce friction .
From what we can see in the data - F1 drivers don't do this IRL. More from throttle modulation. It does work in games though.
@@Driver61 hey .you have bots spamming your comment section..
Can you please do something about it?
Ocon.. turkey 2020 no stop, and also master of saving his tyres..
Could've mentioned how Alonso uses/used extreme understeer to go through graining faster. Still, really good video, thanks
Nice video. Also USA 2021 was worth mentioning.
Checo is peaking and I couldn’t be happier for him!
Interestingly, at Melbourne this year, Lewis got even better life out of his first set. At around lap 20 he was actually able to put Checo under some pressure.
So, is it a good idea to push harder on left hand turns on a track mostly having right handers?
Does checo's tyre saving ability has to do with setup or its just purely driving style?
Yes to the first one, its not worth saving eg right front, when left front is the limitation
Me activating scenario 7 in austria sector 2 then
Great vid as usual. Is this something which could impact drivers simply because the teams don't understand it: Team player vs a driver who is much more individual and head strong?
Great video clips!
Great video!
those brake downs are incredible
Yeah but i would say lewis is better, he saves tyres and he also has that raw pace somehow.
In spanish gp this year, after lap 1 pitstop, he was on a 2 stop strategy (that didnt work out that well for many) but lewis aced it (and when he had the soft tyres at one point, he kept stringing fastest laps together and that didnt affect tyre life that much)
"My tyres are gone"
2 laps later
Lewis sets the purple 1st sector
@@foxy126pl6 that's the reason of why Lewis is the best on saving his tires
Yea that was the most underrated part of his drive that weekend.
Great video. That said, I really hate how tire management dominates F1 strategy these days.
Great explanation. Thanks, very interesting.
I was also in Turkey at Turn 1 last year. How did I fail to spot Scott
he learned watching hamilton
Drivers really are strategist in a sense
They are master of going super fast, clinical and consistent all the time.
Checo’s a better tyre manager imo
Is incredible how the little changes in aseleration and braking can make the tyres last longer
This reminds me of the Ford v Ferrari line
"If you push a machine to its limit, you need to have some sense of where that limit is"
Really well-made video
Another thing that is not mentioned and that is said in a report about Checo's life in Mexico made in 2011, is that when he started in Karting they did not have much money to invest in tires for the Kart, so his father had races where he had to use tires for two or three more races to save costs, definitely the ability to take care of tires had to be learned almost forced as a child
Tyre management thats not only making them last long, it’s a general skill and sensibility with the throttle, feeling of the car in general that allows you to work with tyres and find the grip in all conditions, with all types of tyres, control the temperature…
It’s an overall feeling, and the driver who delivers master class the last few races on tyres is Verstappen…
And since the begenning ! His first F1 win was in Spain on a race of tyre management…
Really agree with you. I think hamilton should be on the list as verstappen
What about Ocon last year.. finishing a whole race without any pitstop
Button was kinda good with the tires but he said sometimes he was too smooth, his tires got cold and he almost never was able to get them back to the optimum temps.
please do put more info on you in a video whether it be next video or not, you’ve had an amazing career and i’ve watched others videos on your career and found it very interesting, would be great to hear it from your point of view
Checo is a legend, and deserves to be a world champion this time!
Awesome information, Great video..
Weird timing on this episode when a week ago he had probably his worst race as far as tire wear
The timing is never great with these videos lmao
Yeah he hasn’t been that good at tire saving in 2022, if he has the pace of Max he doesn’t have the tire life of Max
Yeah. He Roasted his mediums in the first stint
That was due to his high degradation setup
Today in an interview in Spanish Checo mentions that the tire degradation problems he had in Monaco and Baku were due to the fact that his driving style to take care of tires was the same as in other teams but that in RedBull it must be different. And that it has nothing to do with a set-up more focused on qualifying than on the race.
Great video! Thanks! I was also wondering: how much of the current way of driving in F1 is just because of physics and rules -the cars move in the most efficient way possible within the limitations and that determines almost all driving decisions? Or does a degree of style or fashion also play into this? I mean would it be reasonable to think that in a decade or so, even within the same kind of limitations, common driving styles could be drastically different? Are there new strategies to be discovered here or are we just juggling known possibilities? I would be very curious to know how you think about this.
F1 requests that the tires degrade on purpose. They could last the whole race buts it's done on purpose to keep the race interesting. At least this aspect will be similar in the future.
Don't you forget about Ocon who passed through GP Turkey 2021 with single set of intermedium?
Checo and lewis are master at managing tires
Lewis. Checho and Max know when losing a tenth on one corner will save your tyres enough to be two tenths faster overall on the next lap.
Thats their genius.
Good lord that thumbnail game!!!
I've always wondered how they get the percentages for tire degradation to show on the little graphic
You missed the bit where Checo goes to the garage and tucks his tyres into their heated blankets and reads them a bedtime story every night.