You can buy older F1 tires/tyres from before the Pirelli era but they are usually tables and chairs now AND they have to be treated because the rubber off-gasses can be toxic and generally horrible in the home.
@@Ale-bj7ndpossibly just need to put them through a heat cycle to burn off the chemicals on the surface after production? I guess that means an oven unless someone has a spare F1 car to do a few practice starts🤣
Well the tyres arent the problem, the actual problem is the spray and thanks to F1 being most focused on safety, they wouldn't want another Belgium 1998 happening.
It is absolutely comical that F1 has all this talk about being 'carbon neutral' and 'net zero' yet each car is allocated 18 sets of tires with many of them being thrown away if not used. I'm the last person to toot the environmental horn but F1 is living in fantasy land with their PR lie that is net zero. Excellent video and very informative as always. Well done.
I think they dropped the 'net 0 by 2030' goal because I don't see it anywhere. It used to be visible behind the podium finishers during interviews but it's not anymore.
Same with the calendar. The fact that we have Monaco, hop to the other side of the world for Canada, and then back for Spain makes no sense at all if you’re pushing such a message
@@Racemannetje That's because F1 teams have more than one copy of everything. While one shipment goes from Monaco to Spain, another shipment goes from Miami to Canada. That's why geographically close curcuits are not next to each other on the calendar. To learn more, watch the video *"The insane logistics of Formula 1".*
@@RacemannetjeCanada didn’t want to change the terms of their contract. When it’s renewed, I’m sure the date will change to fit in either the stream lined calendar.
When i was 8 , 50+ yrs ago, at a reverse direction sprint at knockhill , watching the men at work on a F5000 Lola , i asked how heavy are the rear tyres , they said come and try to lift it , wow , not really any heavier than my dads cortina wheel that we changed the week before . I felt as strong as Superman. 🎉
2:58 This part of tires as a set, is crucial to understand that when a driver flat spots a front tire, they essetially screw up an entire set of tires.
I think these tyres are a marvel of engineering. Sometimes you'll see a cut-through visual of a tyre and that's already incredible to see. The various materials used or just even the different mixture of a compound. When was the last time we saw a tyre blow due to tyre wear? These days the puncture comes from a collision with a car or an object on the track. I can appreciate this level of detail, engineering, and care. Thanks for the video :)
Who remembers that race in America i think where the Michelin tyres were failing and they had to tell the teams their tyres weren't safe to race on so only the cars on Bridgestones "raced". What a shamozzel that was.
@@mikecrimlis3366 I remember the winner was extremely happy. Don't remember who it was though. He was celebrating his ass off and hardly anybody was there.
Yep, Pirelli isn't the only one that makes F1 tires. It was 6 cars with 4 of them staying out of the way of the Ferraris. Very exciting... lol 2005, Vegas?
In the early 90’s some friends started a business selling a range of boots that had F1 tyres for the soles. I used to sell them at Touring car meetings. One problem was that they used to leave skid marks on kitchen floors!
I have a Rear Wet used by Alain Prost at Silverstone in a test. Not saying how I got it but I was there at the test that day and discovered it was in my boot (Trunk) when I got home It was cleaned and treated and is in daily use as a coffe table
@@chrisallen2005 You are the kind of person who thinks a V8 engine block coffee table that doubles as a wine bottle holder is *not* attractive in the living room, alright m8, thx for the interesting info, have a nice day.
Done some work at a factory about 20 yrs ago and the boss proudly showed me his race used Mark Blundell driven Tyrrell rear slick tyre, ist surprised me when I ran my hand over it, when cold it was more plastic feeling than rubber, if u flicked it with your finger it was like hitting a thick drum skin than a rubber compound tyre, it made a sound like a drum too,
i remember as a kid going to nascar shops with my parents, they were happy to give you a used race tire. two of them with a round glass top makes a nice table.
Before they cut tire beads, race car tires could be found. I got mine for free for years from the Parnelli Jones Firestone store in Torrance. Then things got tough with Firestone orders to cut beads. But I made friends with mechanics there and could usually find tires for my old street driven corvette.
Fantastic insight into the life of an F1 tyre! Unfortunately, a large proportion of the microplastics in the ocean come from tyres, so its a shame that F1 goes through so many. I wonder if the amount of microplastics would be different for an F1 tyre vs a normal road car tyre (different rubber compound, etc.)?
Tires came from materials in the Earth and eventually return to the Earth. The cycle of life, one of the fundamental laws of the universe, decay of all things, can't be broken. Think, instead of reacting to what you're told to be afraid of in life...
Think about how much tire pollution is created by EVs. They're much heavier than ICE vehicles and run through tires much quicker and that wear ends up in the environment.
It’d be cool if teams could mix match different tire grades when they’re racing. Example being hards on the front and mediums on the rear. It’d make tire selection strategy so super interesting
They should be allowed to Mix/Match any combination for more tactical options or at least tires of the same compound. Now one flat spot from a hard break manouver ruins the entire set. That is hard to understand.
I have an unused competition Pirelli medium tyre on a 13inch Enkei front rim from a Mclaren Mp4-26 that I made into a table. I made a base for it and put some 6 inch legs on it, LED lights in the middle of the rim and a glass top. It looks great
That raw materiel is VERY proprietary to say the least! It would be extremely careless of Pirelli to just hand their competitors their cutting edge technology as a souvenir. 😉
After the French GP in 1999, Tora Takagi was disqualified because his teammates tyres were erroneously put on his car. How would the FIA know this has happened?
I have an old Pirelli supersoft tire with all the barcodes still on it. Does anyone know how I can check which driver used the tire? Unfortunately, emailing Pirelli doesn't work
I had a IMSA race tire coffee table in my 20s. Every girl I’d bring over would say the same thing when they walked in my apartment: “what’s that smell?” Seriously, your place will smell like a tire shop.
you can walk the track and pick up rubber, there goes the intellectual property thought. As far as other suppliers, no one wants back in. Michelin said no, Perrelli is it at the moment
So the FIA has the same replacement policy as Discount Tire: “Oh, you have a thumbtack in a single tire? It’s dangerous to replace just one and can’t patch it, so you need to buy 4 new tires.” *This is a joke, obviously race cars need matched tires. Please don’t @ me about how I don’t know anything about tires. Just a comment about how commercial tire shops try to boost their own sales.
Over 10 years ago, I was able to find someone who lives in the same state as me in the US, who had some F1 tires. He wanted $800 per tire. I walked away without one.
I mean yeah you could look at it as Pirelli protecting their intellectual property. Or you could see it as Pirelli protecting their monopoly on the market.
Meanwhile, used NASCAR tires are surprisingly easy to get a hold of (many teams will sell them to you directly) and not even particularly expensive, especially if you live near any of the team shops. And there's a whole collectors market for race used sheet metal as well...
I Used to work at Bridgestone motorsport on the F1 in the early 2000s and all the tyres went to a Michelin owned recycling centre in Ashbourne in Derbyshire. You have no chance of getting one as we had to watch every tyre be scrapped. Other than that you’re factual correct in every aspect.
How do the cars and the team's equipment know which pressure sensors to connect with? There's wireless (I think) pressure sensors on all the rims, so I'm guessing someone has tell the equipment that there's a new set on the car and it the car needs to display the pressures for the new set and not the old. I guess there's a lot of simple ways to get the correct tires displayed, I'm just curious about how they actually do about doing this. I'm also interested in how, and how long it takes, to correctly get all of the wireless connections set up each day.
It is interesting to consider that ALL racing tire (tyre) manufacturers do this. And then to consider IMSA, where they have multiple manufacturers across the classes. They must keep VERY close track of all of those tires!
In the late 1960s in Los Angeles we would go to the back door of Shelby enterprises,,$40 a tire for used road racing slicks, we told them we were using them at Lions drag strip four our street drag cars,,well that's at least what we told them...
I though they were taken back to the plant in Didcot, can't see any information saying that they aren't, where did you hear that they are not taken back there?
It's a big misconception, it's just where the tyres are organised and sent out from - not just for Formula 1 but many other categories. All my info is taken from my meetings with Pirelli, and those who currently work within the paddock!
For f1 fans who wanted tyres but Pirelli are scared of competitors... Why not sell older tyres because they improve every year or give us compounds that aren't used anymore eg the pink banded supersofts snd so on before the c series rebrand even
F1 tyres are shredded under strict security at 1 of 2 facilities one in Manchester 1 in Birmingham, the shredded rubber is then trucked to a cement works at caldon low in Derbyshire and used for fuel in the kilns.
With the latest tyre technology, they can recycle used rubber and even make condoms from racing slicks. From an average-size slick, they can make 365 condoms from a Goodyear. That's an open-source joke, so feel free to bounce it around. Thanks for a great presentation, Matt.
how could it be enviroment friendly to produce a tire from raw materials that takes energy to produce and if the tire is not used burn more diesel in a truck to ship the tires back to a plant and shred them and just burn the rubber?
The used tires are burned, because they are NOT steel belted. If all car tires were not steel belted the great mass of tire graveyards would not exist. Bann steel belted tires for cars....Then the tires could be recycled or burned for energy.
F1: "We have these amazing tires to race on heavy rain, latest technology guys!" Any person: "Cool! So the drivers can race on wet conditions too!" F1: "No, we don't race on rain for safety reasons."
I love people saying Pirelli is trying to make the best racing tires out there. Pirellis are awful in every series they run in, most other major mfgs make significantly better tires in literally every application
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You can buy older F1 tires/tyres from before the Pirelli era but they are usually tables and chairs now AND they have to be treated because the rubber off-gasses can be toxic and generally horrible in the home.
How do you treat them? I have a couple Porsche tyres I wanted to make tables
@@Ale-bj7ndpossibly just need to put them through a heat cycle to burn off the chemicals on the surface after production?
I guess that means an oven unless someone has a spare F1 car to do a few practice starts🤣
@@MIEJ4 they were actually used in Monza
that sounds like spin to me
@@Ale-bj7nd You can't, the compounds that keep the tyres soft will take decades to off-gas.
Why do they even make wet tyres anymore, nowadays any session will get cancelled as soon as the intermediates go on.
They do make wet tires!
@@procatprocat9647 yeah but that isn't the question
@@procatprocat9647 they said "why do they make wet tyres" not "why dont they make wet tyres"
@@procatprocat9647
Learn to read
Well the tyres arent the problem, the actual problem is the spray and thanks to F1 being most focused on safety, they wouldn't want another Belgium 1998 happening.
It is absolutely comical that F1 has all this talk about being 'carbon neutral' and 'net zero' yet each car is allocated 18 sets of tires with many of them being thrown away if not used. I'm the last person to toot the environmental horn but F1 is living in fantasy land with their PR lie that is net zero. Excellent video and very informative as always. Well done.
everything today resolves arround lies
I think they dropped the 'net 0 by 2030' goal because I don't see it anywhere. It used to be visible behind the podium finishers during interviews but it's not anymore.
Same with the calendar. The fact that we have Monaco, hop to the other side of the world for Canada, and then back for Spain makes no sense at all if you’re pushing such a message
@@Racemannetje That's because F1 teams have more than one copy of everything. While one shipment goes from Monaco to Spain, another shipment goes from Miami to Canada. That's why geographically close curcuits are not next to each other on the calendar. To learn more, watch the video *"The insane logistics of Formula 1".*
@@RacemannetjeCanada didn’t want to change the terms of their contract. When it’s renewed, I’m sure the date will change to fit in either the stream lined calendar.
When i was 8 , 50+ yrs ago, at a reverse direction sprint at knockhill , watching the men at work on a F5000 Lola , i asked how heavy are the rear tyres , they said come and try to lift it , wow , not really any heavier than my dads cortina wheel that we changed the week before . I felt as strong as Superman. 🎉
2:58 This part of tires as a set, is crucial to understand that when a driver flat spots a front tire, they essetially screw up an entire set of tires.
Were some other race series can still mix and match.
F1 loves complicated unnecessary money waisting procedures and process
Calling shenanigans on F1 carbon neutral .
Just google carbon neutral, It's easy to learn just how bad it really is, carbon neutral means nothing since you can jusr pay for the statistics of it
I think these tyres are a marvel of engineering. Sometimes you'll see a cut-through visual of a tyre and that's already incredible to see. The various materials used or just even the different mixture of a compound. When was the last time we saw a tyre blow due to tyre wear? These days the puncture comes from a collision with a car or an object on the track.
I can appreciate this level of detail, engineering, and care. Thanks for the video :)
Who remembers that race in America i think where the Michelin tyres were failing and they had to tell the teams their tyres weren't safe to race on so only the cars on Bridgestones "raced". What a shamozzel that was.
Who can forget it?
@@mikecrimlis3366 I remember the winner was extremely happy. Don't remember who it was though. He was celebrating his ass off and hardly anybody was there.
It was Michael Scumacher. His only win that year.
@@KSparks80
Yep, Pirelli isn't the only one that makes F1 tires. It was 6 cars with 4 of them staying out of the way of the Ferraris. Very exciting... lol 2005, Vegas?
As always, it is a delight to watch your F1 videos. Insightful and fun
In the early 90’s some friends started a business selling a range of boots that had F1 tyres for the soles. I used to sell them at Touring car meetings. One problem was that they used to leave skid marks on kitchen floors!
I have a Rear Wet used by Alain Prost at Silverstone in a test. Not saying how I got it but I was there at the test that day and discovered it was in my boot (Trunk) when I got home
It was cleaned and treated and is in daily use as a coffe table
I have an old Goodyear F1 tyre with a circle glass plate on top as a couch table, love it :)
Our local barbershop has one of these. With the Goodyear F1. Big buggers aren’t they? Make a really cool bit of decoration though.
You are the kind of person who thinks a V8 engine block coffee table that doubles as a wine bottle holder is attractive in the living room.
@@chrisallen2005 You are the kind of person who thinks a V8 engine block coffee table that doubles as a wine bottle holder is *not* attractive in the living room, alright m8, thx for the interesting info, have a nice day.
@@chrisallen2005You are 18/19 with the cynicism of a bitter old man. Cheer tf up.
Done some work at a factory about 20 yrs ago and the boss proudly showed me his race used Mark Blundell driven Tyrrell rear slick tyre, ist surprised me when I ran my hand over it, when cold it was more plastic feeling than rubber, if u flicked it with your finger it was like hitting a thick drum skin than a rubber compound tyre, it made a sound like a drum too,
I don't need sleep, I need answers
Ooh, 3d graphics for the tyre compound explainers, nice.
i remember as a kid going to nascar shops with my parents, they were happy to give you a used race tire. two of them with a round glass top makes a nice table.
Informative vid!
Such a great video about something so key to an F1 weekend.
Thank you, this was very informative!!
Before they cut tire beads, race car tires could be found. I got mine for free for years from the Parnelli Jones Firestone store in Torrance. Then things got tough with Firestone orders to cut beads. But I made friends with mechanics there and could usually find tires for my old street driven corvette.
Another fantastic video from you Matt! Interesting
Fantastic insight into the life of an F1 tyre!
Unfortunately, a large proportion of the microplastics in the ocean come from tyres, so its a shame that F1 goes through so many. I wonder if the amount of microplastics would be different for an F1 tyre vs a normal road car tyre (different rubber compound, etc.)?
Tires came from materials in the Earth and eventually return to the Earth. The cycle of life, one of the fundamental laws of the universe, decay of all things, can't be broken. Think, instead of reacting to what you're told to be afraid of in life...
@@M8Stealth lmao what are you talking about. that's not how any of this works
@@M8Stealthmicroplastics don’t decay
Think about how much tire pollution is created by EVs. They're much heavier than ICE vehicles and run through tires much quicker and that wear ends up in the environment.
Wow. You are a natural born buzzkill.
Very insightful, thanks!
for some reason I always thought, after the race, the still usable tires would go to F2 and so on 😀
IDK why you'd think that
@@gamechip06 me neither :D
Or maybe the drivers could fit them to their road cars?
F1 tyres are too big for F2 cars
@@GreatJO some kids HAVE to wear their siblings clothes, no matter the fit :P
Glad I have my Goodyear Eagle F1 tyre as a coffee table (used for a test session at Silverstone 1994 by Tyrell purchased in 1997 )
Very informative. Thank you👍
It’d be cool if teams could mix match different tire grades when they’re racing. Example being hards on the front and mediums on the rear. It’d make tire selection strategy so super interesting
They should be allowed to Mix/Match any combination for more tactical options or at least tires of the same compound. Now one flat spot from a hard break manouver ruins the entire set. That is hard to understand.
The groves in the tyres also allow the rubber to move around more and therefore create more heat.
I was on a farm outside of Otorohanga in 2000 and they had an F1 grooved tyre on top of one of their silo pits.
I have an unused competition Pirelli medium tyre on a 13inch Enkei front rim from a Mclaren Mp4-26 that I made into a table. I made a base for it and put some 6 inch legs on it, LED lights in the middle of the rim and a glass top. It looks great
In the 90’S I have a friend who get lots of those tire after a race , he loaded his 24 foots closed trailer .
Always wanted to know this stuff, well presented.
That raw materiel is VERY proprietary to say the least! It would be extremely careless of Pirelli to just hand their competitors their cutting edge technology as a souvenir. 😉
it's good to see Will Smith (0:20) just waving a flag and not slapping someone.
I’m more happy to see George Russell give back to the community by making this video
It'd be better to see someone slapping Will Smith. lol
After the French GP in 1999, Tora Takagi was disqualified because his teammates tyres were erroneously put on his car. How would the FIA know this has happened?
Neat production, Matt. By _neat_ I mean "well done" more than *_nifty._*
Though it was. Nifty, I mean. Which is _aaargh!_
^5
One thing Goodyear does with NASCAR tires is make soles for shoes with them. I think that's a fun way to get fans involved
I have an old Pirelli supersoft tire with all the barcodes still on it. Does anyone know how I can check which driver used the tire? Unfortunately, emailing Pirelli doesn't work
I had a IMSA race tire coffee table in my 20s. Every girl I’d bring over would say the same thing when they walked in my apartment: “what’s that smell?”
Seriously, your place will smell like a tire shop.
I've got a rear tyre and rim from Theo Fabi's 1986 Benneton.
15 sets per driver per round for a driver? That means a grand total of 28800 tires for everyone during this season. That's a ton of rubber!
i worked for eddie stobart on the f1 contract and all return tyres go to burton upto trent
Some tyres also get tested so they improve on previous races
you can walk the track and pick up rubber, there goes the intellectual property thought. As far as other suppliers, no one wants back in. Michelin said no, Perrelli is it at the moment
My last visit to Indy, $5 a pop for your new porch swing beer holder.
Matt, have you been reading my mind?!
I was just wondering about this!
Funny.. IndyCar teams can give away tires to fans.. I remember in Edmonton Indy guys packing around used tires all day…
So the FIA has the same replacement policy as Discount Tire: “Oh, you have a thumbtack in a single tire? It’s dangerous to replace just one and can’t patch it, so you need to buy 4 new tires.”
*This is a joke, obviously race cars need matched tires. Please don’t @ me about how I don’t know anything about tires. Just a comment about how commercial tire shops try to boost their own sales.
So much tyre waste yet the V8 engine was their problem with it's non environmental-friendly emissions.
Over 10 years ago, I was able to find someone who lives in the same state as me in the US, who had some F1 tires. He wanted $800 per tire. I walked away without one.
How interesting. Thank you for sharing.
I mean yeah you could look at it as Pirelli protecting their intellectual property. Or you could see it as Pirelli protecting their monopoly on the market.
Meanwhile, used NASCAR tires are surprisingly easy to get a hold of (many teams will sell them to you directly) and not even particularly expensive, especially if you live near any of the team shops. And there's a whole collectors market for race used sheet metal as well...
I Used to work at Bridgestone motorsport on the F1 in the early 2000s and all the tyres went to a Michelin owned recycling centre in Ashbourne in Derbyshire. You have no chance of getting one as we had to watch every tyre be scrapped. Other than that you’re factual correct in every aspect.
"What Happenth to F1 Tyreth After a Rathe?"
How do the cars and the team's equipment know which pressure sensors to connect with? There's wireless (I think) pressure sensors on all the rims, so I'm guessing someone has tell the equipment that there's a new set on the car and it the car needs to display the pressures for the new set and not the old. I guess there's a lot of simple ways to get the correct tires displayed, I'm just curious about how they actually do about doing this. I'm also interested in how, and how long it takes, to correctly get all of the wireless connections set up each day.
It is interesting to consider that ALL racing tire (tyre) manufacturers do this.
And then to consider IMSA, where they have multiple manufacturers across the classes.
They must keep VERY close track of all of those tires!
So 600 tires on a given race week? Wow
The video should have been called "What happens when tires retire?"
I’m convinced bro only owns one shirt
I think I currently have 5 🤣
I'm sorry but no matter how hot you burn the shredded tires you will have CO2 as a minimum unless they are recapturing it.
Awesome! Plants love CO2!!!
Who the fuck cares??
In the late 1960s in Los Angeles we would go to the back door of Shelby enterprises,,$40 a tire for used road racing slicks, we told them we were using them at Lions drag strip four our street drag cars,,well that's at least what we told them...
interesting they are using psi instead of bar.
I though they were taken back to the plant in Didcot, can't see any information saying that they aren't, where did you hear that they are not taken back there?
It's a big misconception, it's just where the tyres are organised and sent out from - not just for Formula 1 but many other categories. All my info is taken from my meetings with Pirelli, and those who currently work within the paddock!
@@mattamys Interesting thanks
Ohter series allows different spec tyers on. Why not f1?
More economical, ecological and bigger offset if you get it wrong (so more excitement)
Well i think those tires are "retired"
I heard they ship them back to Uzbekistan where they’re eaten as a dessert.
Wind tunnel tyres £999 ouch
Thought tyre warmers were being barred.
Much Happier with My NHRA Goodyear Drag Slick!
Why not use some of the tires for tire barriers on F1 circuits?
I think I just watched something about tires being rubber, and you cant buy them.
4:36 give it away 😂😂😂😂 ferrari sunglasses are so expensive i bet that i couldnt afford a rubber pellet off a tyre if they could sell them
For f1 fans who wanted tyres but Pirelli are scared of competitors... Why not sell older tyres because they improve every year or give us compounds that aren't used anymore eg the pink banded supersofts snd so on before the c series rebrand even
Another use for recycled tyres is the soft grounding under play equipment in playgrounds.
F1 tyres are shredded under strict security at 1 of 2 facilities one in Manchester 1 in Birmingham, the shredded rubber is then trucked to a cement works at caldon low in Derbyshire and used for fuel in the kilns.
@@ericevans4040 They go to Hope Works as well.
Finally a video 😅
try the Pirelli factory @ Carlisle
All part of F1 zero emissions 🙄
Zero Emission is a future goal, but they still gotta race in the now don’t they?
Interesting video but what the hell is Formmla 1?
Do the tyres come out of the teams budgets? If so what happens to the cost of the unused tyres does the money just go to Pirelli back pocket
With the latest tyre technology, they can recycle used rubber and even make condoms from racing slicks. From an average-size slick, they can make 365 condoms from a Goodyear.
That's an open-source joke, so feel free to bounce it around.
Thanks for a great presentation, Matt.
When they recycle the rubber from 1 of my condoms, they can make 3 of the Pirelli F1 tires and 19 bags of assorted rubber bands.
how could it be enviroment friendly to produce a tire from raw materials that takes energy to produce and if the tire is not used burn more diesel in a truck to ship the tires back to a plant and shred them and just burn the rubber?
The used tires are burned, because they are NOT steel belted.
If all car tires were not steel belted the great mass of tire graveyards would not exist.
Bann steel belted tires for cars....Then the tires could be recycled or burned for energy.
I thought F1 tires are filled with Nitrogen, not 'air'. This is to keep the tire pressure stable. Am I correct?
Never use any other brand on my Yammy, they stick in any weather
Why did it take 8:40 to say what happened to the tires after a race?
I can’t wait to f1 have another tire supplier! Pirellis on the rain just does not work!!!!
Wet tyres? Hadn’t heard that name for a long time.
My dad owned a 1994 schumacher winning tyre
Man you must use alot of sharpies lol
Always be prepared
F1: "We have these amazing tires to race on heavy rain, latest technology guys!"
Any person: "Cool! So the drivers can race on wet conditions too!"
F1: "No, we don't race on rain for safety reasons."
I would love to have a used F1 ype.
I believe I saw Formula 1 tires for sale on ebay. Unless they weren't really F1 tires?
I go with Michelin Cup 2’s personally
Thanks for the information
imho, they should bring more mediums than softs, everyone runs mediums during the races, either at the start, the middle, or the end
Softs are for qualifying essentially.
All tires, all.
Such a waste of tyres that aren't put to use. You would think how much they want to get to "Net Zero" that they would fix this.
I love people saying Pirelli is trying to make the best racing tires out there. Pirellis are awful in every series they run in, most other major mfgs make significantly better tires in literally every application
Very interesting.