You can buy older F1 tires/tyres from before the Pirelli era but they are usually tables and chairs now AND they have to be treated because the rubber off-gasses can be toxic and generally horrible in the home.
@@Ale-bj7ndpossibly just need to put them through a heat cycle to burn off the chemicals on the surface after production? I guess that means an oven unless someone has a spare F1 car to do a few practice starts🤣
It is absolutely comical that F1 has all this talk about being 'carbon neutral' and 'net zero' yet each car is allocated 18 sets of tires with many of them being thrown away if not used. I'm the last person to toot the environmental horn but F1 is living in fantasy land with their PR lie that is net zero. Excellent video and very informative as always. Well done.
I think they dropped the 'net 0 by 2030' goal because I don't see it anywhere. It used to be visible behind the podium finishers during interviews but it's not anymore.
Same with the calendar. The fact that we have Monaco, hop to the other side of the world for Canada, and then back for Spain makes no sense at all if you’re pushing such a message
@@Racemannetje That's because F1 teams have more than one copy of everything. While one shipment goes from Monaco to Spain, another shipment goes from Miami to Canada. That's why geographically close curcuits are not next to each other on the calendar. To learn more, watch the video *"The insane logistics of Formula 1".*
@@RacemannetjeCanada didn’t want to change the terms of their contract. When it’s renewed, I’m sure the date will change to fit in with the streamlined calendar.
2:58 This part of tires as a set, is crucial to understand that when a driver flat spots a front tire, they essetially screw up an entire set of tires.
I've got an old Nascar Goodyear Eagle. It was on Davey Allison's car sometime during the race weekend at Sears Point when Davey won after Ricky Rudd was disqualified. My friend, Dave, saw a big pile of tires at the Goodyear truck, asked if he could have one, and they gave it to him. It became mine a few years ago after Dave passed away. I really wish it was still his, but it's a neat artifact with a good story from a great guy.
Well the tyres arent the problem, the actual problem is the spray and thanks to F1 being most focused on safety, they wouldn't want another Belgium 1998 happening.
It’d be cool if teams could mix match different tire grades when they’re racing. Example being hards on the front and mediums on the rear. It’d make tire selection strategy so super interesting
They should be allowed to Mix/Match any combination for more tactical options or at least tires of the same compound. Now one flat spot from a hard break manouver ruins the entire set. That is hard to understand.
i remember as a kid going to nascar shops with my parents, they were happy to give you a used race tire. two of them with a round glass top makes a nice table.
In the early 90’s some friends started a business selling a range of boots that had F1 tyres for the soles. I used to sell them at Touring car meetings. One problem was that they used to leave skid marks on kitchen floors!
When i was 8 , 50+ yrs ago, at a reverse direction sprint at knockhill , watching the men at work on a F5000 Lola , i asked how heavy are the rear tyres , they said come and try to lift it , wow , not really any heavier than my dads cortina wheel that we changed the week before . I felt as strong as Superman. 🎉
I think these tyres are a marvel of engineering. Sometimes you'll see a cut-through visual of a tyre and that's already incredible to see. The various materials used or just even the different mixture of a compound. When was the last time we saw a tyre blow due to tyre wear? These days the puncture comes from a collision with a car or an object on the track. I can appreciate this level of detail, engineering, and care. Thanks for the video :)
I have a Rear Wet used by Alain Prost at Silverstone in a test. Not saying how I got it but I was there at the test that day and discovered it was in my boot (Trunk) when I got home It was cleaned and treated and is in daily use as a coffe table
I have an old Pirelli supersoft tire with all the barcodes still on it. Does anyone know how I can check which driver used the tire? Unfortunately, emailing Pirelli doesn't work
Who remembers that race in America i think where the Michelin tyres were failing and they had to tell the teams their tyres weren't safe to race on so only the cars on Bridgestones "raced". What a shamozzel that was.
@@mikecrimlis3366 I remember the winner was extremely happy. Don't remember who it was though. He was celebrating his ass off and hardly anybody was there.
Yep, Pirelli isn't the only one that makes F1 tires. It was 6 cars with 4 of them staying out of the way of the Ferraris. Very exciting... lol 2005, Vegas?
Before they cut tire beads, race car tires could be found. I got mine for free for years from the Parnelli Jones Firestone store in Torrance. Then things got tough with Firestone orders to cut beads. But I made friends with mechanics there and could usually find tires for my old street driven corvette.
Fantastic insight into the life of an F1 tyre! Unfortunately, a large proportion of the microplastics in the ocean come from tyres, so its a shame that F1 goes through so many. I wonder if the amount of microplastics would be different for an F1 tyre vs a normal road car tyre (different rubber compound, etc.)?
Tires came from materials in the Earth and eventually return to the Earth. The cycle of life, one of the fundamental laws of the universe, decay of all things, can't be broken. Think, instead of reacting to what you're told to be afraid of in life...
Think about how much tire pollution is created by EVs. They're much heavier than ICE vehicles and run through tires much quicker and that wear ends up in the environment.
I had a IMSA race tire coffee table in my 20s. Every girl I’d bring over would say the same thing when they walked in my apartment: “what’s that smell?” Seriously, your place will smell like a tire shop.
you can walk the track and pick up rubber, there goes the intellectual property thought. As far as other suppliers, no one wants back in. Michelin said no, Perrelli is it at the moment
I'm watching this while playing Circuit Superstars, an arcade game with body damage, fuel usage and tire wear with pit stops to replenish each and racing lines to keep aware of, so this is very fitting. 🏁🏎️
F1: "We have these amazing tires to race on heavy rain, latest technology guys!" Any person: "Cool! So the drivers can race on wet conditions too!" F1: "No, we don't race on rain for safety reasons."
if all tyres are sent back and shredded, what do teams use for showing cars? (both in showrooms on display and on track/city street for events, I know red bull often has some driving in cities they have events)
That raw materiel is VERY proprietary to say the least! It would be extremely careless of Pirelli to just hand their competitors their cutting edge technology as a souvenir. 😉
@@chrisallen2005 You are the kind of person who thinks a V8 engine block coffee table that doubles as a wine bottle holder is *not* attractive in the living room, alright m8, thx for the interesting info, have a nice day.
@@darkmido6087 It matters when organisations claim being environmentally friendly and governing bodies enforce rules based on it when it really isn’t environmentally friendly, it just the least environmental damage possible.
How do the cars and the team's equipment know which pressure sensors to connect with? There's wireless (I think) pressure sensors on all the rims, so I'm guessing someone has tell the equipment that there's a new set on the car and it the car needs to display the pressures for the new set and not the old. I guess there's a lot of simple ways to get the correct tires displayed, I'm just curious about how they actually do about doing this. I'm also interested in how, and how long it takes, to correctly get all of the wireless connections set up each day.
the wet and inter tyres are also shredded as they have been mounted to the rim and they just cant take the chance of them being damaged due to demounting and re mounting the tire
So the FIA has the same replacement policy as Discount Tire: “Oh, you have a thumbtack in a single tire? It’s dangerous to replace just one and can’t patch it, so you need to buy 4 new tires.” *This is a joke, obviously race cars need matched tires. Please don’t @ me about how I don’t know anything about tires. Just a comment about how commercial tire shops try to boost their own sales.
I have an unused competition Pirelli medium tyre on a 13inch Enkei front rim from a Mclaren Mp4-26 that I made into a table. I made a base for it and put some 6 inch legs on it, LED lights in the middle of the rim and a glass top. It looks great
One way a competitor could get its hands on Pirelli tyre compound is to pickup samples of marbles from the racetrack after a Grand Prix and put them through analysis.
I though they were taken back to the plant in Didcot, can't see any information saying that they aren't, where did you hear that they are not taken back there?
It's a big misconception, it's just where the tyres are organised and sent out from - not just for Formula 1 but many other categories. All my info is taken from my meetings with Pirelli, and those who currently work within the paddock!
@@mattamysPirelli didn't tell you there was no "air pressure" in the wheels. Becaue unlike normal road tyres, Formula One tyres are filled up with nitrogen gas instead of air. Air is a mixture of 78% nitrogen but more significantly 21% of oxygen. Nitrogen gas is used for two primary reasons. Firstly, it provides higher consistency. By using dry nitrogen gas, the tyres will behave in a predictable, consistent manner in any part of the world. Secondly, as the tyres wouldn’t have air or water vapour in it, the inside of the rims are immune from the effects of rusting. They are also lighter than air, allowing for faster race speeds. By the way, if you read retired MotoGP rider Anthony West's Twitter post on January 24th, 2020, you can also find out what they are really doing with the tires. Too[l]
how could it be enviroment friendly to produce a tire from raw materials that takes energy to produce and if the tire is not used burn more diesel in a truck to ship the tires back to a plant and shred them and just burn the rubber?
It is interesting to consider that ALL racing tire (tyre) manufacturers do this. And then to consider IMSA, where they have multiple manufacturers across the classes. They must keep VERY close track of all of those tires!
Done some work at a factory about 20 yrs ago and the boss proudly showed me his race used Mark Blundell driven Tyrrell rear slick tyre, ist surprised me when I ran my hand over it, when cold it was more plastic feeling than rubber, if u flicked it with your finger it was like hitting a thick drum skin than a rubber compound tyre, it made a sound like a drum too,
Even bigger insult is that Formula One engines are actually incredibly efficient for what they are. Driven uneconomically around big tracks, producing over 950hp from only 3 natural litres, 200mph, 19000RPM, and yet an F1 V10 will only consume 4-5 litres of fuel per lap. That is unbelievable. But no, that wasn’t good enough for them.
You didn’t mention that when Goodyear had the contract. Their used tyres were sent back to Wolverhampton, polished given a glass top and then sold as coffee tables.
1959 Jack Brabham/Cooper World Champion - 1 set (4 tires) lasted a whole season. (I think?) Now that would be a spec tire that would cut down on thr tire budget for a FRormula 1 team!
Not all of the tires/tyres get recycled. Brett Lungers LR from Watkins Glen(75?),as seen in that famous picture of a Hesketh standing on it's nose in the chicane is in my house.
I cruise on Costa Cruises and the sports bar has most of the seats made of used Scuderia Ferrari Formula 1 , not so much made as original tyres two high makes a seat
good video so far but mistake one. the teams can change the pressure of the tyre. Pirelli just put it to the min legal number for the track in question. but thats easy to over look so yeah. mistake 2... sorry but if a wet set is used they do not re-use them as they could be damaged etc etc. they also dont send the ones that are not used to other tracks even if its not used as they make a set amount per season. but i get what you say you would think they would keep the not used ones but they dont sadly, but sometimes they are given to the teams for special events say showing off a car on a photo day or on a older car for a bit for Sky Sports F1. mistake 3 sorry but they DONT use air in F1 tyres its dry nitrogen gas. This is done for two reasons. Firstly the moisture content of air is variable depending on the local weather conditions and this differs considerably between some of the exotic locations on the GP calendar. but good video with just a few little mistakes that you made or didnt know. and sorry matt i wont sub yet but if you teach me something i dont know i will sub but for now its a no. but keep at it you could teach a old F1 fan something new LOL
I Used to work at Bridgestone motorsport on the F1 in the early 2000s and all the tyres went to a Michelin owned recycling centre in Ashbourne in Derbyshire. You have no chance of getting one as we had to watch every tyre be scrapped. Other than that you’re factual correct in every aspect.
It’s been this way for several years. There was a time when, Goodyear and Bridgestone also raced F1. But it got very expensive with the tire companies competing against each other and Goodyear was the first one to leave the sport.
No competitor wants to reconstruct Pirelli's awful tires. Michelin and Bridgestone have better racing products that can withstand many fastest laps. 🤷♂️
Over 10 years ago, I was able to find someone who lives in the same state as me in the US, who had some F1 tires. He wanted $800 per tire. I walked away without one.
In the late 1960s in Los Angeles we would go to the back door of Shelby enterprises,,$40 a tire for used road racing slicks, we told them we were using them at Lions drag strip four our street drag cars,,well that's at least what we told them...
The used tires are burned, because they are NOT steel belted. If all car tires were not steel belted the great mass of tire graveyards would not exist. Bann steel belted tires for cars....Then the tires could be recycled or burned for energy.
Regular car tyres are recycled or burned. The steel wires are pulled out by a machine as part of the process. It’s not that complicated to do. Tyre graveyards are there because there are so many cars in the world.
F1 tyres are shredded under strict security at 1 of 2 facilities one in Manchester 1 in Birmingham, the shredded rubber is then trucked to a cement works at caldon low in Derbyshire and used for fuel in the kilns.
I knwo exactly what happens i used to work in the warehouse where they are kept .They are flattened and then driven to Birmingham where they are chipped and destroyed .They keep them in Didcot before the race.
After the French GP in 1999, Tora Takagi was disqualified because his teammates tyres were erroneously put on his car. How would the FIA know this has happened?
In the US teams are GIVEN all the tires they need and tire engineers are at the track helping the teams pick the correct tire. Afterwards, the tire co wants all those tires back. They will be taken to a tire co lab and analyzed. Racing helps tire co develop new safer tires. Goodyear & Firestone are the biggest players alto Hoosier is around Nascar. !
If a competitor (Goodyear/ Michelin) wanted one of these tires for analysis they have the means and connections to get one rather easily. That proprietary information excuse is laughable. Also allowing teams to mix tire compounds such as hard fronts and medium rears would really add a lot of strategy to the race weekend and you would probably get a few wildcard winners every now and then.
You can buy older F1 tires/tyres from before the Pirelli era but they are usually tables and chairs now AND they have to be treated because the rubber off-gasses can be toxic and generally horrible in the home.
How do you treat them? I have a couple Porsche tyres I wanted to make tables
@@Ale-bj7ndpossibly just need to put them through a heat cycle to burn off the chemicals on the surface after production?
I guess that means an oven unless someone has a spare F1 car to do a few practice starts🤣
@@MIEJ4 they were actually used in Monza
that sounds like spin to me
@@Ale-bj7nd You can't, the compounds that keep the tyres soft will take decades to off-gas.
It is absolutely comical that F1 has all this talk about being 'carbon neutral' and 'net zero' yet each car is allocated 18 sets of tires with many of them being thrown away if not used. I'm the last person to toot the environmental horn but F1 is living in fantasy land with their PR lie that is net zero. Excellent video and very informative as always. Well done.
everything today resolves arround lies
I think they dropped the 'net 0 by 2030' goal because I don't see it anywhere. It used to be visible behind the podium finishers during interviews but it's not anymore.
Same with the calendar. The fact that we have Monaco, hop to the other side of the world for Canada, and then back for Spain makes no sense at all if you’re pushing such a message
@@Racemannetje That's because F1 teams have more than one copy of everything. While one shipment goes from Monaco to Spain, another shipment goes from Miami to Canada. That's why geographically close curcuits are not next to each other on the calendar. To learn more, watch the video *"The insane logistics of Formula 1".*
@@RacemannetjeCanada didn’t want to change the terms of their contract. When it’s renewed, I’m sure the date will change to fit in with the streamlined calendar.
Dude, that was way too long of a video to just say the tires are shredded and recycled.
You saved my time 😂
Thankyou
You're the man
Yeah sadly, started out good but got bleh, all that "getting your own tire" was misplaced if you ask me,
Thanks
2:58 This part of tires as a set, is crucial to understand that when a driver flat spots a front tire, they essetially screw up an entire set of tires.
Were some other race series can still mix and match.
I've got an old Nascar Goodyear Eagle. It was on Davey Allison's car sometime during the race weekend at Sears Point when Davey won after Ricky Rudd was disqualified. My friend, Dave, saw a big pile of tires at the Goodyear truck, asked if he could have one, and they gave it to him. It became mine a few years ago after Dave passed away. I really wish it was still his, but it's a neat artifact with a good story from a great guy.
Why do they even make wet tyres anymore, nowadays any session will get cancelled as soon as the intermediates go on.
They do make wet tires!
@@procatprocat9647 yeah but that isn't the question
@@procatprocat9647 they said "why do they make wet tyres" not "why dont they make wet tyres"
@@procatprocat9647
Learn to read
Well the tyres arent the problem, the actual problem is the spray and thanks to F1 being most focused on safety, they wouldn't want another Belgium 1998 happening.
It’d be cool if teams could mix match different tire grades when they’re racing. Example being hards on the front and mediums on the rear. It’d make tire selection strategy so super interesting
They should be allowed to Mix/Match any combination for more tactical options or at least tires of the same compound. Now one flat spot from a hard break manouver ruins the entire set. That is hard to understand.
I eat them. All the tires are shipped to my door and I eat them for breakfast lunch and dinner.
At least they're going to a good cause 😂
They kind of look like rubber cheerios. Extra chewy 😂🤣
I stop at my local McPirelli's and get them to go. Great for the ride home.
i remember as a kid going to nascar shops with my parents, they were happy to give you a used race tire. two of them with a round glass top makes a nice table.
In the early 90’s some friends started a business selling a range of boots that had F1 tyres for the soles. I used to sell them at Touring car meetings. One problem was that they used to leave skid marks on kitchen floors!
When i was 8 , 50+ yrs ago, at a reverse direction sprint at knockhill , watching the men at work on a F5000 Lola , i asked how heavy are the rear tyres , they said come and try to lift it , wow , not really any heavier than my dads cortina wheel that we changed the week before . I felt as strong as Superman. 🎉
I think these tyres are a marvel of engineering. Sometimes you'll see a cut-through visual of a tyre and that's already incredible to see. The various materials used or just even the different mixture of a compound. When was the last time we saw a tyre blow due to tyre wear? These days the puncture comes from a collision with a car or an object on the track.
I can appreciate this level of detail, engineering, and care. Thanks for the video :)
I have seen multiple 2020 season but I see your point
Calling shenanigans on F1 carbon neutral .
Just google carbon neutral, It's easy to learn just how bad it really is, carbon neutral means nothing since you can jusr pay for the statistics of it
I have a Rear Wet used by Alain Prost at Silverstone in a test. Not saying how I got it but I was there at the test that day and discovered it was in my boot (Trunk) when I got home
It was cleaned and treated and is in daily use as a coffe table
What does treating a tire do?
F1 loves complicated unnecessary money waisting procedures and process
unnecessary money wasting procedures and process are necessary to lessen said unnecessary money wasting procedures and process.
It's totalitarian motor racing. Regulate everything. I can see why they do it for the spectacle. But the engineer in me is not fond of it.
I have an old Pirelli supersoft tire with all the barcodes still on it. Does anyone know how I can check which driver used the tire? Unfortunately, emailing Pirelli doesn't work
Who remembers that race in America i think where the Michelin tyres were failing and they had to tell the teams their tyres weren't safe to race on so only the cars on Bridgestones "raced". What a shamozzel that was.
@@mikecrimlis3366 I remember the winner was extremely happy. Don't remember who it was though. He was celebrating his ass off and hardly anybody was there.
Yep, Pirelli isn't the only one that makes F1 tires. It was 6 cars with 4 of them staying out of the way of the Ferraris. Very exciting... lol 2005, Vegas?
Michelin had to refund everyone’s tickets to the event. Apparently.
It was the catalyst that made them go to a single tyre manufacturer.
2005
As always, it is a delight to watch your F1 videos. Insightful and fun
Glad I have my Goodyear Eagle F1 tyre as a coffee table (used for a test session at Silverstone 1994 by Tyrell purchased in 1997 )
Before they cut tire beads, race car tires could be found. I got mine for free for years from the Parnelli Jones Firestone store in Torrance. Then things got tough with Firestone orders to cut beads. But I made friends with mechanics there and could usually find tires for my old street driven corvette.
15 sets per driver per round for a driver? That means a grand total of 28800 tires for everyone during this season. That's a ton of rubber!
No rubber in them at all.
it's good to see Will Smith (0:20) just waving a flag and not slapping someone.
I’m more happy to see George Russell give back to the community by making this video
It'd be better to see someone slapping Will Smith. lol
Fantastic insight into the life of an F1 tyre!
Unfortunately, a large proportion of the microplastics in the ocean come from tyres, so its a shame that F1 goes through so many. I wonder if the amount of microplastics would be different for an F1 tyre vs a normal road car tyre (different rubber compound, etc.)?
Tires came from materials in the Earth and eventually return to the Earth. The cycle of life, one of the fundamental laws of the universe, decay of all things, can't be broken. Think, instead of reacting to what you're told to be afraid of in life...
@@M8Stealth lmao what are you talking about. that's not how any of this works
@@M8Stealthmicroplastics don’t decay
Think about how much tire pollution is created by EVs. They're much heavier than ICE vehicles and run through tires much quicker and that wear ends up in the environment.
Wow. You are a natural born buzzkill.
I had a IMSA race tire coffee table in my 20s. Every girl I’d bring over would say the same thing when they walked in my apartment: “what’s that smell?”
Seriously, your place will smell like a tire shop.
you can walk the track and pick up rubber, there goes the intellectual property thought. As far as other suppliers, no one wants back in. Michelin said no, Perrelli is it at the moment
Ooh, 3d graphics for the tyre compound explainers, nice.
I was on a farm outside of Otorohanga in 2000 and they had an F1 grooved tyre on top of one of their silo pits.
I'm watching this while playing Circuit Superstars, an arcade game with body damage, fuel usage and tire wear with pit stops to replenish each and racing lines to keep aware of, so this is very fitting. 🏁🏎️
F1: "We have these amazing tires to race on heavy rain, latest technology guys!"
Any person: "Cool! So the drivers can race on wet conditions too!"
F1: "No, we don't race on rain for safety reasons."
I don't need sleep, I need answers
if all tyres are sent back and shredded, what do teams use for showing cars? (both in showrooms on display and on track/city street for events, I know red bull often has some driving in cities they have events)
That raw materiel is VERY proprietary to say the least! It would be extremely careless of Pirelli to just hand their competitors their cutting edge technology as a souvenir. 😉
I have an old Goodyear F1 tyre with a circle glass plate on top as a couch table, love it :)
Our local barbershop has one of these. With the Goodyear F1. Big buggers aren’t they? Make a really cool bit of decoration though.
You are the kind of person who thinks a V8 engine block coffee table that doubles as a wine bottle holder is attractive in the living room.
@@chrisallen2005 You are the kind of person who thinks a V8 engine block coffee table that doubles as a wine bottle holder is *not* attractive in the living room, alright m8, thx for the interesting info, have a nice day.
@@chrisallen2005You are 18/19 with the cynicism of a bitter old man. Cheer tf up.
I'm sorry but no matter how hot you burn the shredded tires you will have CO2 as a minimum unless they are recapturing it.
Awesome! Plants love CO2!!!
Who the fuck cares??
@@darkmido6087
It matters when organisations claim being environmentally friendly and governing bodies enforce rules based on it when it really isn’t environmentally friendly, it just the least environmental damage possible.
One thing Goodyear does with NASCAR tires is make soles for shoes with them. I think that's a fun way to get fans involved
How do the cars and the team's equipment know which pressure sensors to connect with? There's wireless (I think) pressure sensors on all the rims, so I'm guessing someone has tell the equipment that there's a new set on the car and it the car needs to display the pressures for the new set and not the old. I guess there's a lot of simple ways to get the correct tires displayed, I'm just curious about how they actually do about doing this. I'm also interested in how, and how long it takes, to correctly get all of the wireless connections set up each day.
the wet and inter tyres are also shredded as they have been mounted to the rim and they just cant take the chance of them being damaged due to demounting and re mounting the tire
So the FIA has the same replacement policy as Discount Tire: “Oh, you have a thumbtack in a single tire? It’s dangerous to replace just one and can’t patch it, so you need to buy 4 new tires.”
*This is a joke, obviously race cars need matched tires. Please don’t @ me about how I don’t know anything about tires. Just a comment about how commercial tire shops try to boost their own sales.
I have an unused competition Pirelli medium tyre on a 13inch Enkei front rim from a Mclaren Mp4-26 that I made into a table. I made a base for it and put some 6 inch legs on it, LED lights in the middle of the rim and a glass top. It looks great
One way a competitor could get its hands on Pirelli tyre compound is to pickup samples of marbles from the racetrack after a Grand Prix and put them through analysis.
I though they were taken back to the plant in Didcot, can't see any information saying that they aren't, where did you hear that they are not taken back there?
It's a big misconception, it's just where the tyres are organised and sent out from - not just for Formula 1 but many other categories. All my info is taken from my meetings with Pirelli, and those who currently work within the paddock!
@@mattamys Interesting thanks
@@mattamysPirelli didn't tell you there was no "air pressure" in the wheels. Becaue unlike normal road tyres, Formula One tyres are filled up with nitrogen gas instead of air. Air is a mixture of 78% nitrogen but more significantly 21% of oxygen.
Nitrogen gas is used for two primary reasons. Firstly, it provides higher consistency. By using dry nitrogen gas, the tyres will behave in a predictable, consistent manner in any part of the world.
Secondly, as the tyres wouldn’t have air or water vapour in it, the inside of the rims are immune from the effects of rusting. They are also lighter than air, allowing for faster race speeds.
By the way, if you read retired MotoGP rider Anthony West's Twitter post on January 24th, 2020, you can also find out what they are really doing with the tires. Too[l]
The groves in the tyres also allow the rubber to move around more and therefore create more heat.
how could it be enviroment friendly to produce a tire from raw materials that takes energy to produce and if the tire is not used burn more diesel in a truck to ship the tires back to a plant and shred them and just burn the rubber?
What else would you have them do?
@@qasimmir7117 use less tires maby.
I've got a rear tyre and rim from Theo Fabi's 1986 Benneton.
It is interesting to consider that ALL racing tire (tyre) manufacturers do this.
And then to consider IMSA, where they have multiple manufacturers across the classes.
They must keep VERY close track of all of those tires!
Why did it take 8:40 to say what happened to the tires after a race?
You had me up to the line "Pirelli just wants to make the best racing tyres out there"
If you know, you LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Done some work at a factory about 20 yrs ago and the boss proudly showed me his race used Mark Blundell driven Tyrrell rear slick tyre, ist surprised me when I ran my hand over it, when cold it was more plastic feeling than rubber, if u flicked it with your finger it was like hitting a thick drum skin than a rubber compound tyre, it made a sound like a drum too,
for some reason I always thought, after the race, the still usable tires would go to F2 and so on 😀
IDK why you'd think that
@@gamechip06 me neither :D
Or maybe the drivers could fit them to their road cars?
F1 tyres are too big for F2 cars
@@GreatJO some kids HAVE to wear their siblings clothes, no matter the fit :P
Are the teams billed for the Tyres they use? Does that cost get added to their spending limit for the season?
i worked for eddie stobart on the f1 contract and all return tyres go to burton upto trent
So much tyre waste yet the V8 engine was their problem with it's non environmental-friendly emissions.
Even bigger insult is that Formula One engines are actually incredibly efficient for what they are. Driven uneconomically around big tracks, producing over 950hp from only 3 natural litres, 200mph, 19000RPM, and yet an F1 V10 will only consume 4-5 litres of fuel per lap. That is unbelievable. But no, that wasn’t good enough for them.
Such a great video about something so key to an F1 weekend.
Funny.. IndyCar teams can give away tires to fans.. I remember in Edmonton Indy guys packing around used tires all day…
You didn’t mention that when Goodyear had the contract. Their used tyres were sent back to Wolverhampton, polished given a glass top and then sold as coffee tables.
1959 Jack Brabham/Cooper World Champion - 1 set (4 tires) lasted a whole season. (I think?) Now that would be a spec tire that would cut down on thr tire budget for a FRormula 1 team!
So 600 tires on a given race week? Wow
Informative vid!
So how does Pirelli make sure that no Track Marshall picks up rubber on track or tire pieces after a crash to sell it to other tire manufacturers?
Not all of the tires/tyres get recycled. Brett Lungers LR from Watkins Glen(75?),as seen in that famous picture of a Hesketh standing on it's nose in the chicane is in my house.
I cruise on Costa Cruises and the sports bar has most of the seats made of used Scuderia Ferrari Formula 1 , not so much made as original tyres two high makes a seat
In the 90’S I have a friend who get lots of those tire after a race , he loaded his 24 foots closed trailer .
In 1983 after the british f1 grand prix at brands hatch they gave me a good year tyre,they just made a cut, just a re gular fan,I've got a photo
good video so far but mistake one. the teams can change the pressure of the tyre. Pirelli just put it to the min legal number for the track in question. but thats easy to over look so yeah.
mistake 2... sorry but if a wet set is used they do not re-use them as they could be damaged etc etc. they also dont send the ones that are not used to other tracks even if its not used as they make a set amount per season. but i get what you say you would think they would keep the not used ones but they dont sadly, but sometimes they are given to the teams for special events say showing off a car on a photo day or on a older car for a bit for Sky Sports F1.
mistake 3 sorry but they DONT use air in F1 tyres its dry nitrogen gas.
This is done for two reasons. Firstly the moisture content of air is variable depending on the local weather conditions and this differs considerably between some of the exotic locations on the GP calendar.
but good video with just a few little mistakes that you made or didnt know. and sorry matt i wont sub yet but if you teach me something i dont know i will sub but for now its a no. but keep at it you could teach a old F1 fan something new LOL
sad when info about the tires is more exciting then the sport. 50 parade laps isn't racing.
I Used to work at Bridgestone motorsport on the F1 in the early 2000s and all the tyres went to a Michelin owned recycling centre in Ashbourne in Derbyshire. You have no chance of getting one as we had to watch every tyre be scrapped. Other than that you’re factual correct in every aspect.
Having one tire company stinks of corruption. Why not let all the tire companies battle it out? This is also so wasteful to have so many tires.
It’s been this way for several years. There was a time when, Goodyear and Bridgestone also raced F1. But it got very expensive with the tire companies competing against each other and Goodyear was the first one to leave the sport.
So the fule used for cars or trains or something like that is powered by f1 tires
No competitor wants to reconstruct Pirelli's awful tires. Michelin and Bridgestone have better racing products that can withstand many fastest laps. 🤷♂️
F1 mandates that the tire health has to be rubbish to an exact number for pirelli
@@MaxLai_0104 indeed, Pirelli just doing what is asked of them
Neat production, Matt. By _neat_ I mean "well done" more than *_nifty._*
Though it was. Nifty, I mean. Which is _aaargh!_
^5
Over 10 years ago, I was able to find someone who lives in the same state as me in the US, who had some F1 tires. He wanted $800 per tire. I walked away without one.
Ohter series allows different spec tyers on. Why not f1?
More economical, ecological and bigger offset if you get it wrong (so more excitement)
Why not use some of the tires for tire barriers on F1 circuits?
Your sound quality is a bit stuttery, what's going on?
Processing error which only became apparent when the video went live...
In the late 1960s in Los Angeles we would go to the back door of Shelby enterprises,,$40 a tire for used road racing slicks, we told them we were using them at Lions drag strip four our street drag cars,,well that's at least what we told them...
The used tires are burned, because they are NOT steel belted.
If all car tires were not steel belted the great mass of tire graveyards would not exist.
Bann steel belted tires for cars....Then the tires could be recycled or burned for energy.
Regular car tyres are recycled or burned. The steel wires are pulled out by a machine as part of the process. It’s not that complicated to do. Tyre graveyards are there because there are so many cars in the world.
Another use for recycled tyres is the soft grounding under play equipment in playgrounds.
F1 tyres are shredded under strict security at 1 of 2 facilities one in Manchester 1 in Birmingham, the shredded rubber is then trucked to a cement works at caldon low in Derbyshire and used for fuel in the kilns.
@@ericevans4040 They go to Hope Works as well.
The video should have been called "What happens when tires retire?"
Remember back in the 90's 2000's when they changed the tyres and the bbs wheels would be glistening like new.
great video, clear explanations. keep it up
Another fantastic video from you Matt! Interesting
Thank you, this was very informative!!
Bring back the good old days where you could run a set of Avon if you wished, off drs and bring back refuelling, that'll mix it up a bit!
I thought F1 tires are filled with Nitrogen, not 'air'. This is to keep the tire pressure stable. Am I correct?
interesting they are using psi instead of bar.
Matt, have you been reading my mind?!
I was just wondering about this!
I knwo exactly what happens i used to work in the warehouse where they are kept .They are flattened and then driven to Birmingham where they are chipped and destroyed .They keep them in Didcot before the race.
All part of F1 zero emissions 🙄
Zero Emission is a future goal, but they still gotta race in the now don’t they?
I’m convinced bro only owns one shirt
I think I currently have 5 🤣
After the French GP in 1999, Tora Takagi was disqualified because his teammates tyres were erroneously put on his car. How would the FIA know this has happened?
Interesting video but what the hell is Formmla 1?
In the US teams are GIVEN all the tires they need and tire engineers are at the
track helping the teams pick the correct tire. Afterwards, the tire co wants all
those tires back. They will be taken to a tire co lab and analyzed. Racing helps
tire co develop new safer tires. Goodyear & Firestone are the biggest players
alto Hoosier is around Nascar.
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Do the tyres come out of the teams budgets? If so what happens to the cost of the unused tyres does the money just go to Pirelli back pocket
25C = 77F. You're welcome
Very insightful, thanks!
Wet tyres? Hadn’t heard that name for a long time.
Very informative. Thank you👍
25 degrees in the container ?? Why so cold ? that's well below freezing !
25C
@@aac993 ahh right... that Metric shit again.
@@TowMater603
Ah yes, because temperature being based on actual state of matter and being related to absolute temperature is ‘shit.’🤣
@@TowMater603I see you're stupid.
Some tyres also get tested so they improve on previous races
If a competitor (Goodyear/ Michelin) wanted one of these tires for analysis they have the means and connections to get one rather easily. That proprietary information excuse is laughable. Also allowing teams to mix tire compounds such as hard fronts and medium rears would really add a lot of strategy to the race weekend and you would probably get a few wildcard winners every now and then.