Investigating The Crash Onboard Flight 593 | Kid In The Cockpit | Mayday: Air Disaster
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- Опубликовано: 17 авг 2021
- PART 2 | Investigators learn that having a 15-year-old at the controls wasn't the only factor in the crash of Flight 593.
No one in the cockpit knew that in this new Airbus, part of the auto-pilot would disconnect if the control column was turned against the autopilot and no alarm sounded. The pilots also weren't trained properly to recover from a dangerous situation.
The tragic accident of Flight 593 changed the way pilots were trained on the new Airbus and forced the aviation industry to give pilots a better understanding of how to recover from so-called "upset" situations.
Season 3 Episode 10 "Kid In The Cockpit": On March 23, 1994, Russain International Airlines Flight 593 left Moscow's Airport to Hong Kong. The captain's children were on board and whilst the captain and co-pilot had the plane running on autopilot, they invited the children into the cockpit. After the son sat down, the plane began banking steeply and started falling from the sky in a wild corkscrew spin. The son was trapped in the pilot's position. When the captain managed to get back into his seat, it was too late. Flight 593 crashed into the snowy mountains of Siberia and everyone on board was killed.
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This wasn't an accident, it was utter stupidity on behalf of the Captain. Allowing the child in the cockpit is one thing, allowing him in the pilot seat is absolutely irresponsible beyond belief, it CAUSED the chain of events that proceeded.
ABOVE YES TERRIBLE ...ITS NOT A PLAYGROUND FOR HIS KIDS
I can't agree more
the kid did nothing but turn the yoke slightly on autompilot. how can a highly advanced plane go so out of control because of that? sorry, but im blaming the plane.
It was a horrible mistake and it cost the pilots, the captain kids and every ones lives.
@@jpgrygusHe turned the yoke then held the yoke and prevented the autopilot from turning it back in order to fix the bank angle that he had created. And he continued to hold it for 4 minutes, an absurd amount of time for him to be sitting there, while his idiot father paid no attention and didn't even look at the instruments. The kid had to tell him that the plane had gone into a deep turn.
The two actors portraying the investigators (starting at 4:04) do a spectacular job here.
As soon as kid says "it's turning" you tell him to move "NOW"
Lack of responsibility is just something crazy in this story.
The kid might not have been the direct cause of the problem, but keeping the kid in the cockpit while something was obviously wrong also seems irresponsible…
No its the dumb kids fault lol
Yes. As soon as there was any confusion at all, the kid goes back to his seat and the auto pilot gets disconnected. Everyone and everything in that cockpit was flying the airplane except for the pilots. The really sad part is, that kid went to his grave thinking that it was his fault.
@@philbirk kinda was his fault
If there was an alarm sounding when the auto pilot was disengaged they would have survived
@@pyrotechnick420 If any of the pilots in the airplane were paying attention to the airplane, they would have survived.
What is more troubling is when Eldar said why is it turning, at that moment the Captain should have re-taken control from Eldar. It probably would made a huge difference and potentially saved the lives of all passengers on board. It's better to have someone trained in the seat then a child.
Exactly I would mainly blame Eldar than his father
This episode does not mention an important detail from the report: that there were substantial G forces involved - preventing the captain from returning to his seat. For much of the descent, Eldar was the only one who was in a position to fly the plane.The first officer was also partially incapacitated by the load on the aircraft. I think he may have been standing at the time, but I don’t recall the fine details.
@@a1nelson It's possible you are correct, but, on the other hand, this was a 16 year old teen, not a tot, and so why didn't anyone just tell HIM to "turn the wheel" in the proper direction to stop the banking?
The autopilot didn't squawk, but the kid DID squawk...he told them exactly what was happening...the crew just had their priorities out of order... having the kid reverse the ailerons was priority #1, trying to psychoanalyze the autopilot wasn't a priority at all.
@@jerrysmith5782 Actually, they did. But, by the time the flight crew realized what was happening, the plane had already achieved an attitude that required a skilled pilot to recover from. The accident was initiated with aileron input. However, reversing those inputs alone, would not have allowed the plane to recover from its stall and rapid descent. Btw, the pilots did ultimately achieve some control of the plane. In their (understandable) panic, they forced the nearly stabized plane into a second stall - the one that put the final nail in all those coffins.
Dumbest thing I’ve ever heard of! Kids in the cockpit!
The child’s father and captain is solely to blame. A responsible captain would never put a child in his seat inflight under any circumstances.
You can’t even let the co pilot alone without saying I have control. What a tragedy & a shame as well if they just had another 2000 feet they could have potentially recivered
It used to be quite common to let even a random passenger's child in the cockpit. I have been to the cockpit when I was flying alone when I was 9 just because I asked. I remember seeing it a lot as well.
@@dickJohnsonpeter of course, over the 37 years of my career I’ve probably had over a thousand children visit the flight deck and in many cases let them stay for the landing strapped into a jump seat but it was made very clear to them to touch nothing and remain silent. Allowing them to sit in mine or the First Officers seat was never considered.
The pilot is to blame, of course, but not solely. He and the FO weren't properly trained on the equipment. If they understood how the autopilot worked, no one would have died. And as the point was made in the show, you can't blame someone for not knowing something they were never taught.
Same here. I was 11 flying by myself and they let me in the cockpit
So Airbus is supposed to design their plane around the idea that a kid could be flying it? Geez. Pilot error 100%. If the pilot was at the yolk, this would have never happened, regardless of the autopilot disengage. Never should a child be steering a commercial airline. End of story.
What's the use when you aren't made aware that an inbuilt stall recovery mechanism is in place which is not made trained to pilots,it wouldn't make any difference even in place of eldar,his father would have been,either way he would have crashed by pitching the nose down
@@akshay15411 He never would have even been in that position to begin with had the kid not been at the yolk. He also had no idea how to recover from a stall. The plane was trying to save him, he literally fought against it. He didn't even need to know the system existed, just follow normal procedures to get out of the stall, rather that pull the yolk in the wrong direction.
@@bormz7191 Didn't the video say the airbus didn't train them with the mechanism,if the training in itself didn't provide such mechanism was in place,i don't quite expect the same in the procedures
@@akshay15411 Is something mentally wrong with you kid? If if the pilot didn't let this child sit in the pilots seat none of this would of happened. Who cares if the pilots weren't train to recognize how to overcome a stall in this type of plane. The stall only happened because he let his child sit in the pilots chair.
Calm down buddy lol you can’t watch videos like this, you get too emotional. Go watch Ryan’s world.
When customers pay money to get flown somewhere they expect it to be professional and safe!! Those kids had NO BIZ being in the cockpit!!
I grew up in the Soviet Union. When I was 6 we took a flight to Bulgaria on a YAK-40 jet. The captain invited me to the cockpit and let me fly the plane. I didn't crash it though.
Same here. I “flew” a tu154 on the way to Colombo.
Only possible in soviet😂😂😂
Wow someone really wanted top comment bad.
I grew up nowhere And every captain invited me to fly the plane every time
I wish it crashed
Kudos to Mrs Kadrinsky for being brave enough to be filmed. She lost her entire family plus the ire of those who wish to blame her husband. Yes, it was his fault but still, she's a honey for being interviewed.
She’s disgusting.
Poor decision making, no cockpit awareness, no alarms or bells to notify of disconnection, and improper training. All the reasons why this happened.
He's such a proud papa. He could have just let the kids see the cockpit and where daddy sits and then go back to their seats and let proud papa fly the plane, and do his job. He put innocent people's lives in danger when he let his kids sit in his seat and take over the plane. If the Captain was at the controls he could have saved the plane and those innocent people.
He killed innocent people when he let his kids sit in his seat and take over the plane. FTFY
I've been in a hundred cockpits while my father worked for British Airways but never EVER did any of the pilots offer me to sit in his seat! Totally wreckless actions by the pilots and wreckless training to be honest. Ya think Airbus or the airline would have mentioned this at some point!
the actions were reckless but not wreckless as they resulted in a wreck.
Hii
It's the pilots fault. End of story. He caused all of their deaths because of his unbelievable stupidity in allowing a kid to fly the plane.
Plus he didn't understand how the 'new' computerized auto pilot worked, otherwise he would never allowed his kid to touch that steering.
Period, what an irresponsible human...
Do you wanna pilot the plane?
No.
Come here, come come-
*end*
the girl was fine though...she knew better than to actually fight the autopilot for over half a minute to take control. It was the boy, who had to feel dominant.
It’s not the fault, but destiny. Coincidence, insufficient knowledge of the new aircraft, …. Perhaps, even if there were no children in the cockpit, they still would not have escaped disaster.
I don’t agree with calling this a “freak accident.” This was 100% human error and the pilot’s and his kid’s faults. That’s tough to say, since no one wants to blame a child. But that’s what happened here. Calling it what it is is more honest. By calling it a “freak accident” to me, it takes away all responsibility from them, even if they were victims too. At the end of the day, it was the pilot’s decisions that led to this.
You are right! What was the father thinking? Allowing his 15yr old son to fly a commercial airliner? So what that he was proud of his job and wanted to impress his kids; he was responsible for all the lives on board. This episode make me angry; a police officer who let his son go arrest someone or a firefighter who allowed his son to fight a fire would have been crucified! I buy a ticket I want a qualified pilot flying the plane!!!!
@@bridgethamilton6057 Neither kid was actually supposed to fly the plane, didn't you hear? The captain (and ALL 3 top-class pilots, mind you) believed that the kids could not do anything as long as auto-pilot was engaged, and if it was dis-engaged then there would be an alarm. The problem here was that it disconnected quietly and no one knew what was wrong. This would likely would have caused an incident at some point in the future.
I can't disagree with all you said but at the same time I don't think it's the child's fault because he did alarmed when he noticed something wasn't right. So the the father should have get his damm irresponsible self to the sit and work something out, but he didn't so.
Yup.
I agree. He put showing his kids a good time over the lives and safety of 75 people. And of course he and his kids get memorial site Graves and fancy headstones while the passengers were cremated together and ashes dumped. They should have gotten the same. This wasn't a "freak accident". This was one idiot trying to show off to his kids.
Imagine being his son, and thinking in your last moments you did something that will cause that plane to crash! I honestly feel no pity for the Captain, but I do for that boy! Sad.
Uhhh. How about the remaining 74 innocent people on board!?!
@@macioluko9484 Of course, and the boy's sister as well. But my point was, in his mind, he sat there, and innocently did some...thing, that even his Dad was unable to fix before the plane crashed killing them all.
@@b3j8 Agreed. My point is the insane irresponsible behaviour exhibited by the crew.
@@macioluko9484 Yeah I agree. Had he recovered control and safely landed, that should've ended his career right there! Sadly it didn't end that way.
@thebirdee Well said!
Part One left me shaking.. these are done WAY better than most movies out right now. And, now my heart hurts for the families and those effected by this trauma. :(
I’m addicted to these videos for some reason
@@screwdriverrepair9438 haha.
Indeed.
I watch them over and over.
Fall asleep to them every night 😂
@@GoatOffroad haha yeah same here. It’s ironic how horrible horrible things happening to people somehow relaxes us to the point of falling asleep. 😂
@@kjhman yeh
What’s with all the excuses? He let a kid fly. He screwed up. End of story.
It's just embarrassing
I'm gonna be the a**hole here. The Captain and his 2 children should NOT be buried in the same cemetery as the Fire Fighters from Chernobyl. No "freak" accident this was his fault. All those families who still suffer because of his ego and lack of respect for the passengers.
not the a**hole. you stated the truth, and I remember a time when kids could go up to the cockpit and talk to pilot in mid-flight and they'd give you a plastic set of wings you could pin on your jacket. but it was always, talk / look around / don't touch anything. this went above it, and the pilot let his kids touch stuff like it was a toy
I agree with you. What he did was so reckless
@Kyle Diucet I know right? Just defending a russina
The pilot is nonetheless a hero for trying to save the plane from crashing.
lol 😂 the dad should’ve lived. He should’ve been the lone survivor.
Rest in peace to the passengers and crew including the kids on board 😔 🌼 🌻 🌸 🌹 💮 🏵 🌼 🌻.
The unprofessionell behavior of the Pilot is absolutely shocking! And by the way: Why had the Crew no knowledge of the new computerized autopilot? It sounds really unbelievable!
it says it was new at the time for them
Such a shame, it’s one thing to show a child the cockpit and another to let them play with the controls. Even I as a flight attendant never messed with the controls the times I had to sit in the flight deck. This poor people may they Rest In Peace.
for me the deciding factor was allowing children in the seat. When things started going wrong the pilot should have quickly got in the seat, turned AP off, take over control.....no crash.
But the auto-pilot was off, wasn't it? If the auto-pilot was on it wouldn't be doing what it is doing, correct? However they can't regain control of the aircraft, why?
Because the crew can only control the ailerons. They can only control the ailerons because the auto-pilot was only partially off. That is where I think they weren't properly trained comes into play. They should have been taught that pressure on the stick PARTIALLY turns off the auto-pilot, because before then, I believe all auto-pilots were either completely ON or OFF.
Also the kid being in the pilot's chair manipulating the controls didn't help either...
@@sethmyers5666 Also way too much chaos and distraction to try and figure out what happened. This was a mew plane with new computerized systems. Pilot needed to not complicate matters by showing off to his child.
Sounds kinda like a 737 max 8 beforehand, pilots unaware about the features of their new plane.
One of the best done episodes yet!
It was just a bad idea to ask someone without a pilot's s license to operate the airplane. It was time up for all those souls. They died not knowing what had happened in the cockpit.
My father was a captain for Eastern airlines when I was growing up. He would never allow any of us (his kids) sit in his seat!! The most we got to do was sit behind him. Never would he let any of us fly. I get that the dad was proud of his job and wanted to share what he does with his children but good God, let them sit in the captain seat and fly the plane even if he thought it to be safe with the auto pilot on! Didn’t he have to go to school to learn how to fly they must have told him not to let the passengers fly the plane. R.I.P. to every one on this flight. ❤️♥️❤️♥️❤️♥️🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽❤️♥️❤️♥️❤️♥️❤️😭😭❤️♥️❤️♥️❤️
NEVER has an investigation ...
.. worked so hard to take the blame away from a pilot who has made idiotic decisions.
The ONLY reason that plane crashed was because of those children playing around in the cockpit.
The end...
But don't forget autopilot disengage.
Saw this episode years ago… with out waiting for this episode rendition ending, it was the child not releasing the controls which prevented the auto pilot from performing the necessary corrections.
Turn off the goddamn autopilot!!!
This real life incident was the inspiration for the Crichton novel Airframe. In the novel the plane didn’t crash but three passengers died during the commotion
Disaster Breakdown’s RUclips channel has two good videos on this sad situation. Even the actual voice recording of what happened.
I've watched this chapter many times 👍🏼.
This is what "trapped" means. You are on an airplane & something is going terribly wrong. None of the crew knows what's happening but they know they are all about to die...along with their passengers. This is what fear is, also.
Nothing wrong with the Airbus, something wrong with the Captain thinking it's ok to let children manipulate controls of any aircraft, much less a highly sophisticated Brand new Airbus🙆♂️🤦♂️
R.I.P to all souls lost on that tragic day 🕊🕊🕊
What counts as a child? 18? 16?
FINALLY!
you left me hanging on Monday without showing part 2 :(
I hate when they do that. There’s no reason I can think of for splitting them.
When I see a new video is short, I realize it’s part 1, so I usually wait until the second part shows up. That way I can watch it as a full episode
@@ellicel They usually post half an episode on Monday, the other episode on Wednesday, and then a full episode on Friday. So naturally, I watch a whole episode on Wednesdays and Fridays lol
@@nadinewesterveld5597 Thank you!
@@ellicel true af 100%
It IS the crews fault because they allowed a boy to play in the cockpit.
It is sad that so many of the Russians find no fault with the pilot, and even award him the status of "hero". These people are as irresponsible as the pilots themselves. With this sort of attitude safety will not improve.
I agree, How can a pilot who killed his 2 kids and other 73 people can be called hero. His decisions alone caused this.
I highly doubt this guy is considered a hero over there
from where you find this many russians?
One great way that Aeroflot could have shed its Soviet era image would have been to stop conducting business as if it were still the Soviet era.
One father who wanted to over pamper his children caused 80 people to say goodbye 😔😡😟
It's outrageous.
I am wondering why the FO didn't think to input aileron to stop the bank angle from increasing. It seems that it would be instinctual in the event of an un-commanded roll.
When plane started to turn off course the Pilot STILL did not kick his son out of Pilot seat...it was like he wanted to see if Eldar can SOLVE the situation
May they all rest in peace 🙏❤
Amen 💔
🙏🙏
I was a little shock that they cremating all the victims bodies of this reckless preventable accident together like they just couldn't be bothered to separate them individually yet the captain and his kids got a heroes resting place insult much it's like a gut punch to the stomach I think the passagers should be laid to rest in the hero's cemetery too
This case demonstrates how, no matter how careful you are, sometimes accidents happen. It's so sad how nothing could have been done to prevent this. The brave aviators did nothing wrong, yet they still crashed. Very sad.
its unprofessional and irresponsible for a pilot to let children or unexperienced people be within the closed doors of an active flight.
Thank you🌞
How the don’t pilots know simple things a plane is capable of just blows my mind happens a lot in the air crash investigations
God damn it!! This was so avoidable. No turning back. Just terrible.
There are only 2 Sides of this in real life - 1) Those who got caught like this incident.
2) Those who didn't get caught for all these decades because nothing happened or the co-pilot didn't say anything. 👌🏼
I'll say it again, no alarm on that plane when the autopilot disconnects sounds negligent to me.
Why? The pilot is supposed to be in his seat and monitoring the flight at all times even when the autopilot is flying. If it disconnects you should know. I don't know that I've ever been in an airplane that had an alarm for autopilot disconnect. Mine doesn't. Admittedly, I don't fly airliners though so that may be different. Usually the reason that the autopilot disconnects is because the pilot grabs the controls and overrides. Why would you want an alarm for that? I might agree on an alarm if the autopilot disconnects because of a malfunction but not because the pilot (or kid) overrides the controls.
@@philbirk first off the co-pilot was in his seat, secondly they do not explain to us if there is a visual indication of partial autopilot disconnect which I don't believe there is because it's the only light shown to us was the on-off light, finally it is confusing to me that the plane is allowed to exceed maximum flight characteristics even partially on autopilot. I'm having trouble imagining situation other than takeoff and Landing perhaps, where a pilot would need only partial control over the plane. I too am not a pilot so I don't know but it seems strange to me that for example you execute a right turn and while doing so the plane begins to pitch up on its own. And then how the autopilot even know where to fly it was sent to navigation mode as it would not have left or right control over the airplane. The autopilot would be required to use the pitch and roll control to change the heading of the plane. It really sounds to me like over engineering by a company that did not understand the practical application of its products.
@@SmithsMuseum The co-pilot was in his seat but he obviously wasn't paying attention. There is some indication on the autopilot of the mode that it is in, but I don't know much about the A310 systems. I am a pilot and an airplane owner but not an "airline" pilot. I'm not saying that I think it's a good idea to have a partial autopilot either. They are out there, I guess. My autopilot is all or nothing.
The auto pilot pulled the elevator back to try to maintain altitude given the steep turn. When you turn an airplane part of your lift is used as the force to make the airplane actually turn, you have to compensate for that with more pitch. It's basic aerodynamics.
I don't disagree with your reply, I just don't think it's fair to call the airplane designers, "negligent" for not putting an alarm on something that only needed an alarm because none of the pilots in the cockpit were paying attention to the airplane. The pilot "assumed" that the airplane would tell him if something went wrong and at that moment he quit flying the airplane. I agree with your last sentence. I've always thought that automation in aircraft needs to be approached very carefully and automation is what I do for a living.
@@SmithsMuseum he was not facing the stick, and he was not sitting close enough to reach it, until the load came off and he slid forward.
I don’t think you can say the driver is in his seat if he can’t reach the steering wheel.
@@philbirk it only needs an alarm if the pilot doesn’t know he’s applying force. Should every system have alarms to tell you you did something that required 20 pounds of force?
“Driver is pressing the accelerator hard”
“Driver is applying high braking force”
Hmmm. None of those sound like alarms we would want, yet they shut off or partially shut off the cruise. Yeah, I agree with you we don’t normally alarm things to tell people they’re pushing something they normally intentionally push.
How did pilots get into an airplane without being updated on the new technology and training?
unfortunately this is how Airworthiness Directives are improved beyond what we think was safe
On the Swiss airline I used to got invited to the cockpit but I only sat on the back seat not on the pilot seat.
The pilots were playing russian roulette.
All they have to do is let go,but they have to know that.
I have not flown since 1976. It was on huges airwest, a very small plane that had me terrified each time it hit turbulence. I am terrified at the thought of ever flying again. I know there are many more car wrecks than plane wrecks, but many people survive car wrecks. Not too many survive plane crashes.
Turbulence is much more noticeable in the smaller planes, which have been phased out quite a bit on major routes.
It didn't have the nick name of Hughes Air Worst for nothing.
Do you think it was the child in the cockpit, miscommunication or faulty readings that caused the crash onboard Flight 593 or was it a combination? Watch part 1 here: ruclips.net/video/7X5h7LvEgi0/видео.html
"Child in the cockpit" isn't a cause of the crash. Inappropriate Deferral of Pilot Duties by the Captain would be the cause. Eldar is a child. He isn't cause of anything here.
Kid
I blame it entirely on airbus,since neither it did train the pilots with stall recovery mechanism nor it included so in the emergency checklist procedure
The pilot had to business allowing his kid to enter the cockpit period. Let alone sit in the pilot's seat and pretend to fly the plane. An emergency can happen at any point in time, and the pilot needs to be seated, in and charge at all moments. This story is a case in point.
Regardless of why AP disconnected and regardless of no warning all the result of pilot error.
90% Unprofessional letting the kids be at the controls and poor training handling difficult situations. 10% Airbus fault for not having an alarm showing partial autopilot disconnect. Wonder if the instrument showing the horizon could also have played a part being different than Soviet built ones perhaps under this extreme stress making them trying to get out of the turn/bank angle actually making it worse. Terrible accident. RIP
here 100% of the fault of the pilot who put the child at the aircraft steering wheel. Airbus did not expect that a layman would be at the aircraft steering wheel
Funny how a simple light and audible signal to confirm autopilot disconnect would could have probably saved the situation and all these passengers
My assessment is that once the crew regained their seats, there was very little instrument usage. They were flying by the seats of their pants, borderline panicked. This is evidenced by the fact that at no point during the last moments on the CVR do either of them acknowledge their altitude situation. They never knew what hit them because they weren't consulting their instruments.
Flew a perfectly good aircraft right into the ground.
@@chas1878 yeah but that was the technology at the time- and it was new. So there would some flaw. It's not that big a flaw considering what the pilot did.
@@CW-rx2js The technology wasn't the problem, if you can make a plane fly itself you can definitely make a light and a simple audio component that responds to certain states. The flaw lied within the engineers. Obviously the pilot is at fault for that specific crash to begin with but if my vehicle is turning key features on or off without notifying me in any way then there's something wrong with the design....
Many air crashes can't be blame on a sole person, as they mostly involved a chain of events or bad luck, but for this accident, it is hard not to blame the pilot who let his kids sit in the pilot seat.
Lesson of this shamless accident never let your kid play with lives of people.
May God bless all
This was NO accident! Should never have let those kids in the cockpit. Can't believe those other pilots went along with this absurdity! How do they like it now? How was flying with kids?
Every plane crash is a lesson that saves lives. The pilots did not know that the Auto pilot could partially shut down so it was confusing for them. Wats sad is that had they just left the controls alone the plane would have corrected itself
I can understand the Father being a proud pilot and wants to show his the kids the cockpit, I can understand letting the kids sit in the pilots seat, but I can’t understand letting the children manipulate the controls
This accident is right up there with Air France flight 447.
Okay, so apparently, the boy tries to turn the plane as soon as he sits down, and keeps trying. The adults don't pay attention, the autopilot turns itself off, the plane then turns into an uncontrollable tilted angle, making the display show it moving in a circle. The plane goes into a dive, the father is able to get into the pilot's seat. They try to pull up when they should just let go and let the autopilot fix it, and crash. I think that's my best layman's summary.
Okay, so apparently, the boy tries to turn the plane as soon as he sits down, and keeps trying. The adults don't pay attention, the autopilot turns itself off. No one notices because there's no autopilot off alarm and the centrifugal force feels like normal gravity. The plane then turns into an uncontrollable tilted angle, making the display show it moving in a circle. The plane goes into a dive, the father is able to get into the pilot's seat. They try to pull up when they should just let go and let the autopilot fix it, and crash. I think that's my best layman's summary.
That late model Airbus has a yoke!!!
Just because the AP didn’t have an alarm to tell the pilots it’s off, it still should have been one of the first items checked if the plane was turning by itself. Were they not trained on the A310?
Most planes have autopilot alarms. It's insane to think about it not being here.
Not trained properly imo.
That's what I thought, if the plane is turning when they thought the auto pilot is suppose to be on, they didn't think it could be off? It looked as if both pilots were unfamiliar with the auto pilot system and how it works.
@@Krystalmyth According to experts, the sign of partially disconnected autopilot function was on but clearly none of the pilots paid attentions, because obviously they were not sitting on the pilots chairs at the time the autopilot function was partially disconnected. It is not Airbus fault. When someone in the pilot seat pull or turn the control column for 30 seconds while the autopilot function is on, the system interpret it as the Pilot wanting to gain control of the airplane, hence partially disconnect the autopilot. It was not supposed to give auditory alarm (only visual), because it was supposed to be a deliberate action of the Pilot itself, not a child flying the airplane. Also the pilot was busy arguing with her daughter while his son is flying the airplane, unbelievable!. Irresponsible pilots letting children to take a seat and take control of the airplane and lack of proper training of the pilot and unfamilliarity of the system of their airplane are what had caused the devastating crash.
@@GadisBaliLivesAbroad are they deaf? Where's the alarm? There should be aural alarms indicating a loss of autopilot. How is this not airbuses fault?
i am confused with this scenario. if the plan was climbing when it was banking, where did the g force came from with the speed with such a huge plane and secondly when a plane banks or turns it tends to pitch the nose down slightly so even at that point where did that additional speed come from to push them back? how can a plane bank without anyone noticing?
is there a 1st part?
Aldar looks like a young Ron Jeremy doesn’t he?
@thebirdee 🤣🤣🤣yes he does
THERE'S BEEN A COUPLE OF EVENTS WHERE PLANE DID THINGS WITHOUT NOTICE.
Tightening..
I can blame anyone that operates important equipment without learning about it. You shouldn’t have to have everything shoved down your throat- you should go figure out how things work if you’re responsible for them.
Ive been in charge of expensive equipment, and I would have cost my employer millions if I would have sat on my hands waiting for someone to tell me everything important about my equipment.
Even my F150 requires a tiny bit of manual reading. The salesman can’t teach you everything.
That doesn't scale with jets though, a car is one thing, a passenger airliner is completely different with way more complex systems. A lot of pilots didn't know about that contention feature, which means there was a lack in required training which comes from airbus.
You can’t simply ask about thinks you have no idea exist. You don’t know what you don’t know. It’s the responsibility of those that do know to teach and train. Also, a consumer vehicle isn’t the same as a jet aircraft
Maybe they should have paid you millions too, did they?
You posted that from a computer, right? Do you ever buy anything on that computer? Do you use email for business? Can you explain TCP/IP and SSL?
Such grace afforded to pilots in charge in this segment of air crash investigation. Such grace of irregular pilot error, erratic judgement but in Namibia, Kenya airline or Zimbabwe such Grace of irregular forgotten and incompetence...unprofessional bizarre adjectives creep into the air crash investigation Nxa 🙄🙄
The mental gymnastics the expert is doing not to blame the pilot and his irresponsible decision to let his children on the controls. Imagine any other situation where a parent puts their child in control and the expert is doing everything to not blame them. “Oh well yes, he put his child in control of the nuclear power plant and yes the child accidentally made the power plant go subcritical because he was instructed to press buttons but it’s the power plants fault for not putting a million bells and whistles when its producing too much power on its own and yes, there’s an emergency shutoff button that can stop any reaction but they weren’t trained to press it so it’s no ones fault.”
And then to bury them as heroes! SMDH
How exactly do you not realize your plane is banking that bad and react ? Shouldn't anyone have lost balance within the cabin or anything ? That's what baffles my mind in this story.
with the way that planes are meant to turn they make it so you never feel it, like a full cup of coffee wouldnt spill
Exactly! Even as passengers we can feel each turn so how do they feel perfectly level in the cockpit. Makes no sense.
@@bm1x718 Lies, I just flew to myrtle beach last week & the pilot had to fly past it & u-turn. My face was so smashed against the window it woke me up. Felt like I was laying on my side up ago at the plane. Your coffee won’t spill when it’s flying straight, but drinks are collected before turns.
Something about this video is confusing... apparently Eldar was turning the yoke to the right...so when the plane started banking to the right, why didn't either Eldar or the copilot simply turn their respective yokes back to the center position? I understand that the pilots may not have realized at the time that the autopilot had disengaged, but still, if the plane is turning to the right when you don't want it to, wouldn't the natural instinctive reaction be to turn the yoke to the left?
That's what they did..they weren't able to turn
Plz make alot more
Lesson of this horrifing 😢accident over confidence let you in big trouble.
Pilot was not taking seriously when d troubles begins, he chat with his daughter, that time he should b in his seat n take fully control, that was d best time to handle 😌so sad, may their souls rest in peace 😞
All they had to do was let go of the yoke? Wow!
Maybe the computer got fed conflicting information from the kids moving the flight control sticks in opposite directions, so the computer freaked out and shut off the autopilot?
The kids were in the seat one after the other, as shown in the video. They left out other important details, but that particular one is pretty well established.
The auto pilot training seems to have been lacking. The crew seemed to find out about releasing the stick and it would self reset. Also the thirty second shut down time when conflicting info is being received was new info for the crew .
I recognize the actor playing the lead Russian investigator. He is a Canadian actor.
the children of the pilot had no business going to the cockpit in the first place.
Yes, the crew should have been able to fly the plane out of the disaster. There was plenty of "space" between the plane & the ground. The crew was NOT TRAINED PROPERLY...PERIOD!!!!!
Must be the most idiotic plane crash in history.
I've seen several other videos about this incident, including Mentour Pilot's, which is probably the most detailed and dispassionate analysis of what went wrong. I'm just not buying any attempt to shift responsibility onto Airbus' design. The bottom line is that if the cabin crew were not so foolish as to allow untrained kids into the pilot's seat just so the father could prank them into thinking they were controlling the plane, none of this would have happened.
Wow a simple action can actually cause a disaster it all started with the guy who took those children to the corkpit to pay a visit to their father, disaster in the making.
I love to watch u tube becaùse there is always something intresting to see
Plane manufacturers must think about people make the planes safe not their pockets.
Striker, pull up! You're too low!
I still want to know how the bottles of champagne weren't broken
Pilots need to pursue more knowledge. And take on their skill with passion. Instead of having just met the bar of testing.
Defending his comrade, calling the pilot "a proud father". Pathetic. Tells you he is biased, any of his results disingenuous. Why not call it as it is? Bullshit
That's because a lot of those idiots who were piloting the planes in Soviet Union did the same thing previously, but without crashing the plane. So yes, he was actually defending his comrades, who did the same idiocy without any consequences.
4:38 wtf,was the body intact?