How A Child Crashed A Passenger Plane (A Deeper Dive into Aeroflot Flight 593) - Disaster Breakdown
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In the very early hours of March 23rd, 1994, a disaster occurred in the Russian Siberian Wilderness. A passenger plane seemed to dissapeared into the night without a trace. Aeroflot flight 593 crashed on a routine flight between Moscow and Hong Kong killing 75 people. Extracted data showed the plane plunging up and down several thousands of feet before stalling into the ground. However it was what was on the Cockpit Voice Recorder which not only piqued the interest of investigators but many people across the world.
A quick search for Aeroflot flight 593 on Wikipedia leads the incident to be filed under “Untrained minor in command of controls”. A child was at the controls of a passenger plane. How? In this video we will examine and analyze the events of that night, the actions of the flight crew and the systems of the aircraft involved.
Background Music Credits
Private Eye - Jon Bjork
Aloft - LEMMiNO
Da Capo - Gavin Luke
Tracker - Christoffer Moe Ditlevsen
Ghosting - Christoffer Moe Ditlevsen
Fun While It Lasted - Emil Axelsson
I Will Remember - Gavin Luke
CHAPTERS
00:00 - Into
01:16 - Preliminary Information
5:00 - The Flight Prior to the Incident
7:46 - The Children Entered the Cockpit
11:06 - A Deeper Dive into the Behavior of the Autopilot
14:34 - The Final Moments
22:12 - Aftermath
Sources:
reports.aviation-safety.net/1...
web.archive.org/web/201210070...
www.flaps2approach.com/journal...
aviation.stackexchange.com/qu...
aviation.stackexchange.com/qu...
web.archive.org/web/201610072...
www.flaps2approach.com/journal...
aviationknowledge.wikidot.com/...
archive.seattletimes.com/arch...
www.smartcockpit.com/docs/A31...
www.pprune.org/tech-log/10462...
tailstrike.com/database/23-ma...
iniSimulations - individual's names withheld
www.dailymotion.com/video/x5x...
web.archive.org/web/201409091... Russian Report. English Report I believe is a translation of this.
CORRECTION NOTICES
1. When breaking down the names of the flight crew I seemed to have missed that the Flight Commander's full name was Andrey Viktorovich Danilov. I missed out on the first name. "Viktorovich" being a patronymic. Apologies for that.
2. its been brought to my attention that the sound heard at 17:33 in this video is actually the stall alarm, not the autopilot disconnect. The sounds heard at 20:09 was the Autopilot disconnect which sounded not long after. (Around 10 seconds later). My apologies for this mistake.
We forgive u☺
All good fam!
No worries mate
All good m8, glad you spotted my comment
So the Autopilot was still working at this point?
Imagine sitting in your seat and watching two kids go into the cockpit, and a while later the plane starts diving..
i wouldve merked that family on the way down with my bare hands
@@StillBrokeOff it’s really not any fault of the children it all lands on the captain and even other members of the flight crew. Completely stupid
@@StillBrokeOff The pilots trying to recover the plane while a random passengers starts strangling everyone behind them xD
@@HorstEwald would be a sight to see lol
ooOHh nOoOooOOOooo…
Bringing teenage children to “test” out flying on a plane filled with passengers was a recipe for disaster.
The 90's truly was a different time
I mean you still can just not a commercial flight and with CFI
Aw, it's all in good fun. Here Eldar, have a shot of vodka!
I think it shouldn’t be a big issue. These guys had more than enough time to correct.
I didn’t watch it yet! But I was like it can’t be what I’m thinking.
"You'll only go to sleep in first class, don't run there or they'll fire us."
Oh yeah, we'll let you fly the plane. But don't run in first class. Running in first class is inexcusable.
Plane banks increasingly to the right.
Girl running out of cockpit => panic and probably inquires afterwards.
Girl walking out => planned course correction.
Hey, we have our standards…. 🤣
Proof they only care about protecting the rich
@@n8xus if only no one running on the cockpit that day, thing could've been different
Lol
My brother was the company pilot of a small plane and allowed my nephew to sit on his lap and hold the controls. He was around 6 at the time. My nephew yanked back hard on the controls and stressed the entire plane. My brother said he was afraid for a moment that the wings would tear off. I hope everyone has gotten the memo by now. Don't let children in the pilot's seat. This video makes my blood run cold.
@Dru Baxter the child referenced in the video isn’t even American. The driving age in their country is 18. I get you were trying to be a smart ass, but you’re still stupid
I don't know why, but something about your comment feels off. Or rather unnecessary. 😂
@Dru Baxter i would be very scared to allow anyone of any age use a vehicle of any kinds to drive me around WITHOUT TRAINING. doesnt matter if its a car, bike, plane. If they NEVER used it before, its very unlikely things would go well.
@@aj-sz8mu exactly it’s not about age is allowing anyone to do something they aren’t supposed to it’s like a doctor surgery why would anyone allow someone else operate on someone’s body
Give them a flight simulator if you must, but certainly don't let them near the controls of an actual aircraft until they have the apropriate Pilots license and experience operating that aircraft
Till this day I still think it's the silliest, dumbest, most avoidable accident I've ever seen...
Hard to argue against it. Letting his kids sit in the pilot's seat, while in flight, was bad enough. But failure to transfer control to the FO was sheer hubris.
I never understood how the 15 year old didn’t realize he was the one banking the plane
@@Trispefear I really hate to say it but it's like as if everyone in the cockpit decided to be dumb for some reason. There were sooooo many red flags and not one of them stopped to say "hey maybe we shouldn't let the children 'play' with the airplane?"
It goes from stupid to horrifying in an instant.
@Samantha Ruvika I can only imagine at this point the child was scared, realised the plane was going down and wanted to be close to his father.
Very familiar with this accident. Not only were the crew not totally familiar with the A310, but to allow both children to control the plane and at one point full manual control by a child, is beyond negligence.
Obviously this was the pilot's fault firmly, but you might think not only should the copilot be ready to grab control at any time, but all eyes should have been on the instruments to early-detect any issues. Well, of course allowing a child to fly the plane was the biggest mistake, but at least...
@@kenmore01 Yes, the blind trust that the autopilot couldn't be disrupted doomed them, had somebody had eyes on the instruments they could have corrected long before anything became an issue. Incredibly poor decision, if you want your children to sit in the cockpit chair, only in a damn simulator, not the real deal.
@@Arthion Even the jump seat is acceptable.
Even when not knowing the plane, jeez
The crew not being familiar with the A310 had virtually nothing to do with why the plane crashed. That was just the russians trying to shift attention away from this total embarrassment.
probably the dumbest "bring your kid to work day" participation activity ever
The only time a kid should be taking the controls, is on a flight sim where there are no consequences
@@UNSCPILOT Agreed! I was allowed in the Cockpit once as a Kid and the first thing i managed to do is disengage the autopilot :D Kids are just too great at doing bad things
@@DUKEisALIVE without understanding the context or function of everything around them, a kid will just see anything they can touch as a toy, not knowing the horrific consequences, and unable to act in stressful situations because their expiriance and maturity often arn't far developed enough to adapt.
Flight sims though, that's good fun where a kid can learn and no mistakes that can't be undone until they start to understand how things work, I actually had quite a bit of fun as a kid playing Flight Simulator 2002 with a cheap joystick, course, the largest real flying machine I've ever used is just RC helicopters because I understood pretty quickly that real aircraft are more than I'm ready to handle, heh
Wow feel bad for so many families and especially Mrs.Kudrinski. The embarrassment and outrage combined with losing her family due to husband's actions.
What a terrible way to lose your whole family. My heart breaks for her.
@@lindseykablue tragic and funny at the same time..
@@videodeposu8741 more like stupid than funny
@@videodeposu8741 wow so edgy
I don't feel bad for hee
My mum spent 17 years working as an air hostess, firstly in Aeroflot, and then, when the USSR collapsed, in Urkrainian Airlines. In the 1990s, the violations of safety protocols, commited by pilots, were quite frequent. And some pilots had this idiotic "custom" of letting their sons operate an airplane for a brief moment of time.
It was a custom ?? Wow thats crazy.
Was this crash the reason why it changed, then, or?
I could only imagine what they were doing in the 60s 70s and 80s and 90s I don’t think one can get away with doing that today but you never know they need more aircraft laws that is scary to think that people would be letting their kids operate a plane if you want to do that buy your own plane and do it with you and your son not with other people lives insane how inconsiderate people are
@@essen00cat an unofficial one. Of course it was never tolerated by officials
@@missburn This catastrophe was a really loud one, so, yes, new restrictions were established.
Honestly, what angers me most about the crash isn't the fact that the guy let his kid pilot the aerocraft, it's the fact that they could have so easily saved it after the initial dive, but were simply too incompetent to do so.
How could they have done that?
@@uditabhattacharya2824 it's probably one of the most harped on training in pilots school from PPL to ATP. Is stall and spin recovery. Which is to allow the plane to nose down, apply opposite rudder to the spin and do not use any aieleron. You can hear them fidgeting with the power and to tell the other to use rudder. They should have corrected the spin with rudder, gave it power, and claimed out.
If they were too incompetent to do it, how would it have been easy?
@@trip4923 He meant it would be easy/easier if they were competent pilots. But they were not thus the crash.
@@trip4923
Babies are too incompetent to pick their own noses, does that make picking your nose a challenging task?
The sudden “end of recording” sent chills down my spine. I can’t imagine how terrifying the moment of impact must have been.
Imagine looking out the front window and seeing trees coming closer until BAM!
Levelling the plane out of danger was way more scarier than the crash itself imo, they wouldnt have time to think in those split seconds of crashing
End of recording is NEVER good
Reading this comment beside the smiling face dp is very confusing
@awesomo9 Landing and taxi lights would not have been on so they wouldn't have seen what they were hitting most likely. I'm not sure if they went down in city or country, or what the moon was (or cloud coverage) that night so depending on a lot of factors they may or may not have been able to see the ground well. As far as being able to see and focus in on whatever they were about to hit? No, not so much, too dark and their speed was pretty high. Imagine running your car into a tree at night going 180+mph....how much would you notice or have time to mentally prepare before impact? They probably died so quick they didn't even feel it.
I feel so bad for everyone that died. Especially those kids. That boy wouldn't leave the cockpit, and probably died believing he's at fault, when really it was the adults.
I know. I was terrified learning to drive a car. I couldn't imagine being that young at the wheel of a crashing plane with passengers. Horrifying.
Nah it's his fault too fuck dat shit he wasn't that young to the point where he didn't understand that if he fucked up he would die.
@@kiddartist he was like 15 and it was supposed to be in auto pilot. He knew nothing about how to fly a plane wasn't prepared to try if things failed. He just trusted his dad, who made him believe it was safe.
@@kiddartist His dad told him it was safe and all he did was sit there and follow instructions given to him by someone he trusted. It's not the kids fault, the father should have known better. Putting someone with no idea how to fly a plane at the controls and trusting autopilot to protect them from fuck ups? Entirely the pilots fault 100%.
@@Raven1Nevermore I also think that the kid himself should've thought "Is this a good idea?" or something like that while controlling a massive piece of metal with a billion random buttons, but maybe he was completely convinced that his father knew what was the right thing to do.
Still, once again proving that not everything that adults say to kids are correct. Letting people in the cockpit is a cool thing to let them experience being a pilot, fine, but letting them control the plane and putting 60+ people's lives at risk? Just stupid.
Imagine your schedule on your heart surgery is ongoing then someone's head surgeons daughter comes in during operation hahahaha
Imagine calling the bomb squad to deal with an unexploded WW2 bomb and just for laughs the soldier in command let's his 15 year old son have a crack at it
@@mrtommygunwhite with no bomb suit
Gizzago
Don't hate on the daughter. She didn't fuck it up, her brother did.
Imagine you commission a 100 floor skyscraper and the architect just lets his kid draw it with a crayon
Man, I feel so bad for Eldar... His final moments had to have been just awful, feeling like HE caused the plane to go crazy and having to listen to his father shout at him to "Get out" over and over again. He probably had no idea that none of it was truly his fault and that his father should have never let him "fly" the plane to start with! It's not like he knew what he was doing. That poor kid...
I also can't help but get the impression that at this point the father was telling him to get out to cover his own ass in the event that the plane crashed. That he didn't and was found in the cockpit was the first tipoff to investigators that something unusual had happened.
I mean being 15 yo I'd think twice before touching the stick. But then again I am quite into aviation so... But yeah the real fault was on Dad's part for being completely stupid. Rip to everyone that was on that plane, died because of a stupid pilot, not the 1st nor the last time so many deaths were lost due to arrogance and/or stupidity of the pilots.
He actually told him to step out, not "get out"
@@00muinamir Of course it was.
Same, I feel really sorry for the kids. Their father essentially killed them with his own idiocy and their last moments were terrifying. At that age we take our cues from our parents and trust them to keep us safe.
"I am still not 100% sure that is correct"
I respect the level of research and honesty involved in this video.
So many creators are satisfied with repeating what they find on Wikipedia as gospel. You went out of your way to understand the truth, and yet were still clear to the viewer about what you could not be sure of so that you would not become a false source yourself if you were wrong.
I ve heard it in russian. I know it is surreal, but they did it. Alcohol is a factor as well.
I’m Russian as well, the video is correct. Also the co-pilot was sitting too far from an aircraft steering wheel so he couldn’t do much to correct Eldar. And the captain couldn’t see the control panel behind Elders head. There is a super cool russian deconstruction/reconstruction of that catastrophe called «Игорь Зырянов ребёнок за штурвалом» there you can hear👂 the audio of pilots talking is super clear at this video. Unfortunately it doesn’t have subs yet. But you can compare those two videos. And Russian version made from official report.
Yeah you cant fully trust Wikipedia but so many people take it as gospel.
thanks for mentioning this. it’s good to know that i have judged this person to be trustworthy and good at this :) 🛩🌱🌷
@@milanaluna2308 Also, apparently, all they had to do was let go of the controls and the plane would've corrected itself like nothing even happened
As a former Flight Attendant who has had to sit through countless crash scenarios and watch countless crash videos I thought I had seen them all but this, this was new. The sheer idiocy of everyone involved (minus the kids, they didn't know any better) is just mind boggling. Great job covering this story though! I was thoroughly entranced and you have earned a subscriber.
Nah, the kid deserves some blame too. Why would you apply so much pressure to the controls? At 15 years old you should know better.
Exactly, these are teens, they should've known better
@@Tvmmy 90s was weird time
If you have no Idea about the plane, my first instinct would too be to push the controls a little harder If the plane wasn’t responding and I‘m 22. And thats just because he didn’t know shit about flying just like me.
Of course kids are to blame too! There is no way I would have agreed to control a fucking plane as a kid. I wouldn't even put my hands on a cars steering wheel when I was like 6 and my dad put me in his lap while driving in our driveway. I had enough common sense to understand the seriousness of such actions
And Eldar, of all people, was the one who noticed first that the plane was rolling onto a steep bank…
ELDAR!! You crashed the plane! You are grounded except for school for the next 3 days!
@@neptunedawn7121 grounded for life
@@KM-ql4eb 💀💀
@@KM-ql4eb grounded in hell
@@neptunedawn7121 it's not funny sorry...
While Captain Kudrinsky's actions set in place the series of events that brought down Aeroflot flight 593, I feel like First Officer Piskaryov doesn't get much blame in discussions about this accident.
He had two opportunities in which, if he acted appropriately, the plane would not have crashed.
The first instance is when the plane started banking to the right. Piskaryov had enough time to: see that the seemingly uncommanded roll was getting too steep, declare he has control and take the control column, tell Eldar to remove his hands, and fully disconnect the autopilot so he could manually level the plane. If he had done this, nobody but those in the cockpit would have known the reason for that roll.
The second instance was when the plane was diving. Somehow Piskaryov managed to put the plane in a new vertical ascent and stalled it. They could have recovered the plane then, but he blew it. For perspective, the crew of Fedex Express flight 705 came under attack by an offduty crew member deadheading who was hellbent on crashing the plane. After attacking the three crew members, the flight engineer, and captain along the hijacker stumbled out of the cockpit in the area behind to fight for control of the plane. The pilot flying, the first officer had received a direct blow from a hammer to the side of his head; literally caving in his skull and sending bone fragments into his brain. The first officer still continued to manually fly the plane. He decided the use to this advantage by performing sharp rolls and dives to aid the other flight crew fighting for control. At one point, the plane was in a near vertical dive and almost broke the sound barrier, but the first officer recovered. So to be clear, a man with literal brain damage managed to recover from a dive better than Piskayov.
You aren’t taking Soviet culture into the equation. Challenging a senior officer could destroy your career. Not saying he doesn’t deserve some blame-heck the man died. However he didn’t work in a system where it would be encouraged to show up his boss. There’s been plenty of other crashes for the same reason.
@@gingerkid1048 Tenerife is one. But you say soviet culture.
I’m sorry but this is fight or flight basics human instincts kick in. A human would not be thinking about the higher power if he believe he can do something to help. Tenerife had no time to react, but this one even in Soviet culture being almost an unwritten rule to never over rule. This is life or death
Humans will over rule regardless of power
( the ones with common sense )
The problem is that the FedEx 905 incident took place in broad daylight while this accident took place in the middle of the night where visual references outside would be completely invisible. Also the pilots here were not familiar with the flight displays for this plane which would have made things worse.
@@danbrownDBR58 that's wrong and actually pretty wrong-headed. There are thousands of examples of humans bowing to authority with disaster looming, and continuing even as they literally crashed and burned. Airlines are specifically notorious for this, with experts in many countries citing lack of independent initiative and too much regard for rank and seniority as a key liability preventing or delaying their efforts to safely develop domestic flight industries.
Even us 'cowboys' in North America have to be periodically told to be less deferential. Source: I *JUST* sat through a 4 hour FAA training program which I can summarize as repeatedly telling us 'cowboys' to be careful not to be too deferential when something doesn't look right.
@@chrisdelzell8467 exactly why I added
The ones with common sense ‘
Chris life or death you choose boy.
The passengers didn’t deserve to die over the pilot’s negligence by bringing children into the cockpit. Rest In Peace to everyone who perished.
Children in the cockpit is fine, but never should they be allowed to touch or take control of the aircraft
Period. flight crew is totally to blame for this tragic accident.
It's really sad that the dad spent his final words to his son yelling at him for his own stupid decision.
I guess the man tried to further his cause in case of a close shave. He could foresee that the voice recorder would be investigated, probably hoping he could make it appear as if there mainly had to be blamed his child.
Or trying to spare him the terrifying situation he knew was about to occur. Or trying to statistically increase his son's chances of survival in a crash. Probably a bit of all three - people behave weirdly in crisis mode.
@@Elcore Interesting idea! After all, a father may sometimes really love his children.
Not sad at all!!!0
It’s sad his father got him to help murder over 70 people.
One the stupidest accident in history.
But not *the* stupidest.
Unfortunately, Aeroflot also holds that title as well.
@@declannewton2556 which one is that?
@@declannewton2556 af447
@@kaj-2
Aeroflot flight 6502.
On October 20th, 1986, Aerflot flight 6502 was on approach, when the captain and copilot made a bet that the captain could land the plane without looking out the windows and using only the instruments. To perform this landing(called a blind landing), the windows in the cockpit were shut using curtains.
This unwise act was done despite Aeroflot flight 6502 being a regularly scheduled flight which had a total of 94 people on board; the passengers knew nothing of the shenanigans in the cockpit.
Suffice it to say, the captain couldn't land the plane blind; the plane crashed into the runway and burst into flames. 70 people were killed in the crash. Ironically including the first officer who would have won the bet.
Almost as stupid as the pilots who crashed their plane while trying to change a light bulb.
Actually, I think this still wins!
Mind boggling pilot negligence.
"Don't run to first class or I'll be fired!"
Oh gosh, you're gonna have a worse outcome than that...
Considering how Andrey Viktorovich Danilov was shouting at his son like it was his fault that he was allowed control of the plane, I think Andrey Viktorovich Danilov is glad he doesn't have to live with being a major laughingstock in the pilot community. And I hope he burns in hell for that.
Wouldn't want to displease the rich people after all...
Oh wait, they're all dead.
This was covered by Air Crash Investigation/Mayday many years ago. The thought that kept me awake that night was what must have been going through Elgar's mind? That kid went to the grave possibly blaming himself for everybody who was going to die. The pilots were to blame and I'm sorry the kid didn't live long enough for someone to tell him that.
This one always hits different.
The older video you made on this wasn't bad, but this is definitely an upgrade. It's a testament to your growth and dedication!
That's what I was thinking. I do remember seeing a high quality video on this and don't typically watch anyone else these days regarding air crashes. It makes sense that I saw his previous video on this crash.
Vladimir makarov was on the plane… he did no russian in call of duty modern warfare 2…….
This just hurts. I have no fear of flying at all but the reason for that is my utmost trust in the pilots, their professionalism and their training.
I feel so bad for all the poor souls that sat in the back of that plane, I hope for their sake they never realized why this happened.
Yes, it must be quite a disappointing experience to realize that you have got onto an airplane which is flown by madmen.
We can trust the pilots, Iam sure of that. This was an exceptional case and due to this massive accident, such thing will never ever happen again.
20:23 "you see the danger dont you" - after fully letting him sit with ZERO experience (heck, not even the ones kids play Xplane/M$ simulators today, those didnt even properly exist back then), this is really the fault of the father
I think he just didn't want his son to see them crash head on.
NOTICE TO VIEWERS
There was already a video produced for the channel about this that was made in 2016. It was one of the channel's first ever videos. However that was 5 years ago and I knew I could always make a better video of this since doing this full time. Though you could call this a "remake" there will be an All New Disaster Breakdown coming on Tuesday in addition to the regular weekly release!
Thanks.
Yea very big improvement since the video on this
From 2016
Can you do Air France flight 296?
add a tag that says remake pls
As you said in 23:43, does that mean we'll have video about crossair flight 498 or aeroflot flight 821 in the future?
Title: How a *_child_* crashed this plane.
Me: ...How a _who_ crashed *_what?!_*
You're telling me this is not a GTA V video?
This is 100% the fault of the pilot and crew but how could Airbus not include a noise when the autopilot no longer controls the banking of the plane?
maybe they thought the planes would only be flown by actual pilots
Or even a light on the autopilot console
Maybe the autopilot was alredy off
@@kkhfhoid3869 then the plane would crash sooner
Which makes Airbus tonight's big loser.
Imagine being a passenger on that plane. I feel worse for them than the kid who crashed the plane.
for sure, spinning several times then diving and all over again without knowing what the hell is going in
It would’ve been terrifying.
Exactly!!!
Probably the passengers behind did not realize what was taking place in the cockpit...I assume.
Oh yeah, because the kid is the one at fault.
Appreciate your hard work/research, not many people do that level of work for youtube videos. You really set yourself apart in a positive way, happy to see your channel growing and I imagine it will continue to do so.
Thanks for your kind comment!
I can remember visits to the flight deck, during flights as a child. I also remember that this was an expected attraction as a child passenger.
I only got a peek in the door and some smiles from the flight crew.
Every time I fly, which isn’t often, I like to sneak a peek at the flight deck when I leave the plane. I also like thanking the pilots. I don’t know if they get enough thanks. ☺️
@@mikaelafox6106 "Thank you for putting up with all of the corporate and government BS in order to live your dream of flying planes, and for getting me to West Palm!"
Yes, one of my earliest memories is of visiting a cockpit on a night time flight and being amazed by all the lights on the various buttons/instruments. I think I was about three so it would have been in the early nineties..
Yeah, I got to see the cockpit of one the first commercial production Boeing 777's...while it was on the ground. Just do it while on the ground. Can't imagine what these people were thinking.
I sincerely regret that 9/11 robbed me of any chance to do that. But much as I hate to say it, at age sixteen if I’d been invited to the flight deck I’d have been happy to do it. But if the pilots had then said. “Hey do you want to sit in the captain’s seat and try flying the plane for awhile?” I would have been old enough and smart enough to give it a hard pass.
While I do place most of the blame on the father and first officer for allowing an untrained person at the controls and not pay attention, I do have to put some on the sixteen year old. He could have said no. He could have turned the controls in the opposite direction when he feels the plane banking or he could have told the first officer he’s scared and ask him to take control. It’s not much blame because he was least capable of averting disaster but he could have done something.
In 100 years, we're going to be seeing the story of how a space pilot let his child pilot a Starcrusher Heavy Cruiser and he accidentally crashes it into a passing space dragon.
lol!
Keep dreaming. We born in the earth and the world will end here. They can’t even stop a flu virus and you expect we go survive in space
@@desertmoonlee6631 looks like someones a little delusional today
@@desertmoonlee6631 boomer moment
Battlecruiser...no longer operational
I recall how as a ten-year-old I allowed on the flight deck of a Boeing 707 over the Philippines so I could watch the crew at work. I stood by the door for some minutes, and was invited to ask questions, which were answered. I never thought to ask if I could sit in a crew seat, and none of the crew invited me to do so. We all knew better.
"Don't run there or they'll fire us" If this disaster didnt have happened, i hope these guys would get fired just from letting children sitting in the cockpit.
Absolutely flabbergasted watching this video. I covered my mouth when the narration mentioned the pilot just... letting his children take control.
I broke out in a cold sweat when the video got to this part. It's unbelievable.
This disaster is just so depressing knowing that children were involved, I almost just didn’t watch this video cause of that. Your coverage of this accident is amazing though, love your vids :)
Oh my god. Oh my GOD. 😭 I must have never listened to a cockpit data recorder before, but that was… super traumatic. Thank you for the warning. I didn’t think I needed it, but I was wrong. Still, this video was incredible. Thank you.
it is kind of sad and its not even really the fact that the children where allowed to sit in the captain seat but the fact that both of the trained pilots in the cockpit seemingly decided to completely stop doing any semblance of work at the same time. If one had simply stayed seated and alert there would have been no disaster but their over-reliance on the autopilot to do their job meant that a disaster was bound to happen eventually.
Not to say that letting the children fly/pretend to fly the plane wasn't the direct cause of this accident and had they not done that this flight would probably have been fine even if they both stopped paying attention to chat with the children in the cockpit but that sort of negligent attitude of leaving the plane entirely in the control of the autopilot would have eventually caused an accident during a flight.
I agree, but I think it makes sense that the kind of pilot that lets a child steer a plane is not the kind of pilot to take any sort of precautions whatsoever.
@@pey5571 age here doesn't matter they were old enough to understand the instructions. It could happen to anyone who is untrained
😊o
Reading the title vs watching the video: Wow. Thats dumber than anything I could have imagined
Oh hey, did not know you also watched this channel. Your videos are pretty good and helped me on Pokemon Unite as a newbie. ^-^)/
You would know dumb, wouldn’t you lol
The similar dumb is Pinnacle Airlines 3701; hopefully the death tall was significantly smaller;
Aye go back to making battles
@Trigunjoy Majumder Gotteem lmaooo
I'm 32. When I was growing up my family travelled internationally quite a bit. I can distinctly remember on 2 occasions when pilots allowed children to visit the flight deck. I can also remember one time, perhaps around 1995 in Turkey when the Pilot let one of the kids visiting the flight deck 'steer the plane'. Some memories are more terrifying with age.
The disregard for safety is unreal. Feel bad for the two children as I imagine those minutes were absolutely horrific. Their dad was criminally negligent but no-one deserved this outcome. RIP.
You should do TAROM 371. That accident happened primarily because the co-pilot had very little experience flying planes with Western style ADIs, and with an incapacitated Captain and flying through thick clouds, he simply did not know which way to turn the plane and therefore the plane tragically rolled 170* to the left and hit the ground at at -61* angle. In the final seconds when the plane broke out of the clouds and the co-pilot saw the ground, he screamed.
i thought the roll was caused by an autothrottle malfunction
@@PixelTrain1 Yes, the roll happened because of an auto-throttle malfunction which caused the left lever to go to idle while the right lever remained at climb power. However, once the plane exceeded 250 knots, the auto-throttle moved the right lever back to idle in an attempt to slow the plane down, eliminating the thrust asymmetry
I read "the co-pilot lacked very little experience flying planes with Western style Aids"
And I was very confused
@@afoxwithahat7846 Thanks, changed lacked to had.
Hold down the zero to get the degrees symbol
What happened to the days when kids were in the cockpit and the only thing you had to worry about was Captain Over asking inappropriate questions like, "Joey, have you ever been in a Turkish prison?"
This sounds like a joke from Norm Macdonalds podcast. RIP the Greatest of all time
@@LaurenThompsonIsMyRealName it's a line from the movie Airplane.
@@josephmassaro Ah, that makes sense, Norm Macdonald said that was one of his favorite movies. I will have to watch it. Ty.
@@josephmassaro "have you ever seen a grown man naked?"
"Do you like movies about Gladiators?"
I knew what you meant there Joseph 😉
i just wanted to let u know that we really appreciate the insane amount of time that u put into these videos. from researching, to writing a script, to recording the b-roll and the voice over, to editing, and everything else. thanks for providing such quality content
Glad you've gotten around to covering (or revisiting) this particular incident. Crashes that are solely human caused are the accidents that disturb me the most.
I know planes are the safest ways to travel but cmon, when they do happen it’s effin terrifying and some of us are gonna be that small percentage to join the data 😭 idc flying will always be terrifying
I hate it 😱
They are not safer. People keep manipulating statistics to make it look that way. If you get on a plane, you'll more likely die than if you climb into a car. Its just that people use cars more often than planes. If people flew on planes as often as they drove a car, the death ratio would look insane.
The low risk of plane death factors in lower chance of being on a plane in the first place.
You are less likely to die from jumping off a 100 ft cliff than a car crash. That's only because it is unlikely that you would ever attempt to jump off a cliff. Not because the activity is less dangerous.
@@aidancoutts2341 this is outrageously false, and you severely underestimate how many planes fly everyday. Cars are more dangerous because the qualifications to become a driver are much lower than a pilot's, and you are put much closer to other cars who also are not professionals.
You say that stats are cherry picked, but I have no idea how you could make this claim without doing some heavy cherry picking yourself
@@aidancoutts2341 Good points, also in a car you have some modicum of control over your situation.
@@Aldurnamiyanrandvora 3000ish people on earth per million air travel.
Passengers moving on the road per day is 1.2 -1.6 billion or roughtly 20% of everyone on earth.
If you take the ratio of survived trips out of total trips *per person* versus per mile travelled, the plane is slightly more likely to kill you.
Accident rate is much higher in cars but death as a result of accident is higher in planes.
The extra training required is due to the dangers associated with operating such a complex machine.
Edit: ok the data that informed me was historical and not year by year. Probability is really complex. The context of the data has to be agreed and extremely specific. If you flew on a plane *today* you are really safe compared to a car.
Edit 2. Ok read more about it. Now im completely unsure.
My question is if over your entire life, you did the average car trip 5 times versus 5x the average plane trip, which are you less likely to survive?
The captain's name was actually Andrey Danilov. Viktorovich is a patronymic, meaning his father was called Viktor.
This was so negligent. Working in air traffic control, unauthorized people are not even allowed to enter the floor let alone use a phone, take a picture, the list goes on. They take safety very seriously. The fact they let children in the cock pit is mind boggling. Such s sad story
Tarot: To be fair, security COMPLETELY changed (in much of the world, anyway) after 9-11.
anyone seen the picture?
@@rogergeyer9851 very true 👍
Not the fault of the children.
Totally and completely the fault of the adults.
Riiiiiiight?
Bit of both tbf
@@mynic6759 I honestly don't think it was the kids' fault. They trusted that their fathers' knew what they were doing and that they weren't in any danger. And we can't expect them to know how to successfully fly the plane with zero training. That is why I think the fathers are at sole fault.
@@mynic6759 How is it the Children's fault? Their fathers allowed them to try and pilot a plane they had no training actually piloting, it's 100% the father's fault.
I mean blaming the kids is like saying "smh how did they not receive aviation training and a piloting degree before taking the wheel smh smh"
There's something undeniable about wanting to hear the final moments of a plane crash's recordings. Even though you know it's going to haunt you.
The first few videos on this subject that I listened to all came from planes that did this ''**Siren** PULL UP! **SIREN** PULL UP!' sound that is now firmly inked in my mind as one of the most horrifying, terrifying, things I've ever heard.
The kid just started a chain reaction of errors. I'm sure flying during daytime would have had a different result (same with more experienced crew, pilots used to the new technology, better cabin management, alarm systems, etc)
i believe ALL big disasters are results of chains of errors. good point!
Man if someone I loved died in this crash I would be enraged finding out the reason why.
Their poor mother who was left behind, knowing her husband and his colleagues screwed up and let her kids initiate the plane to crash. 😢
Also of course I can't imagine the rage and frustration of those who lost their loved ones who were passengers and cabin crew.
“Don’t run in first class or they’ll fire us” sweets if you were alive you would’ve got fired for something else.
It seems they were too gentle in the recovery attempt of the second dive, (as to not overcorrect and stall the aircraft again). There’s nothing on the CVR in those final seconds of any realization they are about to impact the ground.
Zero visibility and too distracted from the altitude indicators
Back in early 1990s I was on nursing tour of Egypt and flying from Cairo to Aswan the crew opened the flight deck doors and invited anyone who wanted to come up and join the crew!! As a niece of a US pilot I was horrified! I spoke up and was loudly shouted down that I was just being unduly frightened. Unbelievable how careless so many people are in regards to basic airline safety. I never could recommend EgyptAir to anyone!
Statistically the majority of Egyptian men want Sharia Law and have no basic regard for the well being and safety of women, especially white women, I’m not surprised they shouted you down. I’m really not sure why so many western women go over there. The most famous incident has to be in Cairo when a British 60 Minutes reporter was gang raped by dozens of males as she was doing a broadcast of a parade they were having. I have no desire to ever head to any Muslim nation ever. Not even Dubai, as nice of a city as it may be, has any respect for women. If you’re a woman and you get raped in Dubai, they actually throw YOU in prison because that’s the way it is in Islam. Funny how the worst commercial aviation accidents in history all come from either the USSR or Saudi Airlines. All backwards shitholes with no proper education for their pilots.
@@thatperformer3879 it’s funny how ignorant a man can be, get yourself some help and stop the bullshit
The recording of last moments left me with a really heavy heart. The feel of despair was too real
WOW! I think this is your finest episode yet! You are phenomenal at this. I felt like I was living through the tragic event. Unreal that this could ever happen.
1. this pilot's utter stupidity killed 75 people.
2. it should not have been so easy for autopilot (?) to disconnect. how much pressure could a 15 year old boy been applying? moreover what if it was a situation where a pilot had a seizure and fell hard onto the wheel (hence putting pressure on it) and the autopilot disconnected while the pilot was still have a seizure? that would also be a disastrous scenario.
3. again, this pilot's utter stupidity killed 75 people.
Seriously your commitment to accuracy is next level! This by far THE BEST analysis of this incident available! I am watching it now for the second time strictly due to that! Just excellent work! From one RUclipsr to another Bravo my friend 👌🏻💯
Question to any Captains:
Why do you want to train your children on a real aircraft, instead of simulator?
Everybody wants to be badass
This goes beyond breach of code, this was pure negligence and complete carelessness that wouldn't be out of place for a socioparh
I've seen a few youtube videos about this incident and yours is by far the most informative and easy to understand. Thanks for your excellent content.
Years of reading NTSB reports and watching documentaries has resulted in my (patent pending) Aircraft Safety Innovation: “Cork on a String.”
A wine cork, suspended from the ceiling of the cockpit directly between the pilots, automatically notifies them of severe roll by wacking them in the fucking temple.
It also has a helpful “you are upside down” script written on the bottom, in case it should ever come to rest on the ceiling.
yes. just yes.
This is a genius invention!!!!
Lmfao
I dunno, every time I've come up with a good idea like that, it turned out that someone else had already thought of it.
Something as sensical as what you described surely must've occurred to a few aviators 100 years ago, since back then, they were more in touch with tangible, observable, infallible, moving-parts, types of innovations - innovations which actually worked reliably, leaving nothing to question.
STOPPP hahah
I've always been fascinated by this particular disaster. This video however is the most well researched I've seen on this topic. Thanks for your hard work. It is appreciated.
I remember reading about this disaster and this is what I would call unprofessionalism to the max.
Yeah Russia in the 90's was the worst country on this planet.
I really appreciate your thoroughness with this one and how much you looked into the autopilot. This video was a great one and an improvement over the original which wasn’t bad by any means so that really says a lot. And of course the extra videos this month is also great! 👍. And 23:59 I’ve heard about that also, I’m glad you’ve touched on that
Also, 20:58 you used the same time stamp twice.
When you think you’re on a comfortable flight to your next destination not knowing the pilot is playing games with your life with his kids 🙄😡
this was insane on so many levels, 1. Bring children to cockpit during flight
2. let them touch the controls 3 .change the heading so the children think they are "flying" the plane 4. have pilots so inexperienced and or incompetent they can't recover the plane while it was still recoverable.
Thanks for producing these videos for us. Great content as always. I have a habit of binge watching them a few days before im due to fly ( no idea why!)
Thanks. Glad you like the videos!
My husband does that!
Great video! I really appreciate all the effort and researchthat goes into these videos every week, and it really pays off :)
I remember getting to go into the cockpit to view the pilot's controls and being able to ask one question then I'd be out of there as a kid. I thought it was the coolest thing ever.
I really like how you used the screen recordings from flight simulator and used them for narrative purposes. It's really creative and you have very good shots!
5:13 a name well known for anyone who play the original modern warfare
The fact that this was a real person completely caught me off guard, since this is the first time I'm looking into this accident.
I hope no-one named Johnathan Price was on that flight. Iykyk
200 people used to be on this flight. Now it's a ghost town.
@@EnclosedPoolArea 🤣
very impressive, except for one small detail, that the sound you described as the autopilot disconnect warning might be the stall warning instead. the constant three chimes until the end of the recording might be the autopilot disconnect warning instead.
So incredibly well researched. Very interesting situation. Amazing work!
Loved the fact you took time to dig deeper into how the A310’s systems work
I work in healthcare/tech where these videos will likely never benefit me or my future
but it's one of the ways I can feel connected to my brother currently serving in the USAF
thank you for fueling my curiosity and for opening that door for us
Your comment struck my brain as incorrect, and I hope to reassure you that there's plenty of benefit.
Healthcare and aviation have something integral in common: The study of mistakes and improvement of procedures to prevent such mistakes from happening again in future.
As a most basic example, checklists were implemented as standard in both industries to help avoid missed steps that lead to bad outcomes, recognizing the limitations of human memory even in routine situations let alone exceptional ones.
This information comes solely from remembering things I've read about problem solving and systems in general, and not from any experience in either field. And of course as we've seen over and over in videos like these, there will always be individuals who don't follow standard protocol or still get it wrong or insist on doing what they're used to instead of changing, but it's my understanding that the overall goal is to _use disaster as a tool for learning rather than simply laying blame._
It's honestly something that can benefit any of us, but hopefully can give you an additional point of connection with your brother. ❤️🍍
@@OriginalPineapplesFoster hey siri, report this user
jk LOL thank you for your insight! I realize i made a faux pas in not specifying exactly what I meant. I was thinking more of functions like VFR or analog controls (while machines like DaVinci are making their own advancements), rather than system integrity and team cohesiveness.
I was being rather shallow by oversimplifying so thank you for correcting me!
@@OriginalPineapplesFoster not to mention just the idea of resource management, working together as a team. That applies in healthcare as well.
@@KM-ql4eb And watching out for colleagues who might be either incompetent or even malicious, in deviating from standard procedure.
"Untrained Minor"
so i assume that there's a minor who's qualified to fly plane?
Some countries issue student pilot licenses at the age of 16.
Well probably one that’s had flying lessons could be qualified
There are 16 year old American pilots flying private Cessna’s better than these Russians knew how to fly.
@@lone5463 now that's sound cool
Look up on VASaviation the tail of Maggie, the 17 year old pilot on a solo run who was guided into landing her plane after it *lost a wheel* in flight!! You can hear she's scared at first and then gets more confident as the air traffic controller and her instructor help her. Quite a feat! That said, she had outside help who she knew, in good flying conditions, etc.
I’ve watched this video once before but this is the first time I’m realizing just how much work you put into researching this before you put it out. Super well done
bro this is a super detailed and good explanation this is absolutely a content we need
Wow, terrifying video! Also I think another reason for the crush was that both pilots began panicking. You can hear it in the FO`s voice and later the captain`s. Maybe if they managed to stay calm and focused they would have dealt with the situation differently. Those poor passengers probably were so scared before the crush! RIP!
I was intrigued by the fact that the pilot spent some of the valuable seconds before the crash urging his child the flight deck. Because he repeated the "get out" command several times, I think the child did not obey. At a crucial time, the pilot was focused on his child who may have been too stunned to obey.
1) Eldar (son) couldn’t get out of the captain sit because of G-forces. Only when the plane lifted the “nose” up, he was able to leave the chair. It took some time for him to get out.
2) At the beginning, when the plane banked to the right more than 40 degrees, father asked him to “hold the yolk”. Eldar thought he should hold the angle in the same position. Eldar didn’t understand pilot’s jargon. As you hear on the tape.
3) when eldar was leaving the sit, he pressed some trimming or some flight control buttons. It created worst condition for the recovery of the plane. Pilots lost perception of their position and couldn’t realised where to turn, right or left.
Those are not Eldar’s mistakes! It is very horrible what has happened. Horrific situation for anyone to encounter. God rest their souls.
Thanks especially for point 1. I was wondering why tf he couldn't get his ass out of the seat once shit began to go down
Your content is consistently excellent. I thought I knew all the facts surrounding this disaster but you brought another dimension to my understanding. Whilst questions still remain, you’ve certainly gone to a lot of trouble to research and evaluate the evidence. As brilliant as ever Chloe 👏
Wow, that's just crazy/bizarre.
When I was about ten, on my first plane trip with my parents, during a layover (some place like Knoxville or Atlanta -- I don't remember) where we stayed on the plane for 30 minutes or so between legs of the flight, the pilot let me sit in his seat, and manipulate the controls to do things (on command) like dives to the left and climbs to the right, showed me the basics of the autopilot, etc. (This was in about 1970 back before we worried much about hijacking or security, generally, re the flying public).
That was pretty awesome for a ten year old, but my butt was back in my seat with my seatbelt on BEFORE the layover ended. I can't imagine letting children be in the cockpit during a flight (I thought that even significant distractions were against regulations), but CERTAINLY not fooling around with the controls in the chair of the pilot officially IN CHARGE, given how suddenly things can go VERY wrong indeed on a commercial flight.
so.... they had four trained pilots on board... and they still managed to crash the plane in the silliest show of negligence I've seen in a while?
This is the most extensive breakdown of this plane crash I have seen. I love how you conducted a deep dive into the systems of the A310. I am an aviation enthousiast and X Plane flight simmer, and the reason I watch these videos is to learn how aircraft systems work and how pilots should behave in certain situations.
Wow you do amazing research!! . Brilliant investigative journalism ✌💕
The production is amazing my friend
I'd love to see a video on the Korean airlines flight in wich shortly after takeoff the pilots lost there bearings and it was concluded that there artificial horizon's were not calibrated right.
This is so sad. One irresponsible person cost 70+ people their lives and brought pain to his and their families. I can’t imagine the pain and hate the wife went on to receive after this
These videos are so interesting. I really enjoy watching them. Thank you 🙏 for uploading them - must be hard work getting all the relevant info right etc ? I’m pleased to know how we are the beneficiaries of your work. Please keep them coming ? Cheers 🥂
Awesome job on this presentation 👍🏽 well done
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I have a doubt, why the person has to pay on Patreon?
Hi are you going to do 9/11 flights? I love your work.
when i was a child and before 9/11 happened having children in the cockpit was nothing special. i flew swissair and i was once also able to input stuff into the autopilot for a pilot once and having the plane react to your input as a like 8 yo was amazing. but giving a kid full control sounds insane. really sad story. really sad for the kids that this where their last memories.
hi i just found your channel. your voice is so nice to listen to and your channel is one of my new favorites 💖
Thank you so much for being so Thorough down to there very hard to say and spell names. Your videos have only gotten better with time. Keep up the good work your really doing a great job up there with Mayday and Air disaster’s on cable. ♥️❤️👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽