Pilot’s CHILDREN in Control! | Aeroflot Flight 593
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Aeroflot Flight 593 was a regular passenger flight from Sheremetyevo International Airport, Moscow, Russia, to Kai Tak Airport in Hong Kong. On 23 March 1994, the aircraft operating the route, an Airbus A310-304 flown by Aeroflot, crashed into the Kuznetsk Alatau mountain range in Kemerovo Oblast, killing all 63 passengers and 12 crew members on board. The investigators found, to their horror, that the children of the pilot was present in the cockpit when the aircraft crashed.
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CHAPTERS
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00:00 - Intro
00:24 - flight history
01:00 - the flight crew
01:52 - takeoff
02:48 - a busy cockpit
03:50 - letting an outsider in
05:35 - go ahead, take the controls
06:52 - making contact with the ground
08:11 - Can I turn this Dad?
12:17 - forty five degree bank
15:43 - losing control
17:44 - stall! stall!
18:40 - situational awareness lost
19:50 - there’s the ground!
21:27 - spin entry
22:34 - left rudder again
24:26 - outcomes
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My absolutely favorite next one should be Saudia Flight 163.
Maybe that's what happened in China the other day, some high ranking communist official brought their child into see the cockpit, the pilot let him take the controls, only for him to send the plane into a nose dive..
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Imagine being a surgeon and letting your child give it a go in a life saving operation…
this is even worse in this case because hes letting the child handle 75 human life !!! wtf was he thinking?!?!?
@@selrayes2 And apparently not even paying close attention while his kid was at the controls! WTF!!!
...on 75 people at the same time
Ikr??? So completely unfathomable. I periodically read about this crash, not entirely sure why. It has to be one of the worst accident stories there is.
Imagine loosing a loved one like this. Imagine being the mother of the children/wife of the captain.
R.i.p. to all the people who died in such a terrifying way.
"Don't touch the sides!"
It's worth to mention, the company along with authorities denied the children were in cocpit until the transcript leaked to media a half year later.
typical
I imagine 😂
how surprising
How Russian
No,it’s not worthy
it's kinda unbelievable how even when things got dangerous , he is still standing behind his son and giving him commands..
Exactly that would be common sense to take over what the hell was he thinking what stupid man .
it's such an absurd and extreme example of Russian masculinity traditions
like ya know "he is a MAN, he has to figure it out himself, even if he is in charge of other people's lives with no previous training or whatsoever"
fucking morons
Had pride in them
I think the high G forces made it difficult for him to sit in his seat and take control.
Yea, it’s kinda the dads fault
My dad once told me his story where he was a little boy on an aircraft (that was in soviet union) and before the flight started the door to the cockpit was open. He curiously looked inside and pilot noticed it and invited him inside. My dad spend the whole flight inside and even seated on the pilots laps with his hands on the yoke. I felt that it is such a wholesome story but now i realise how dangerous this was.
Slightly different sitting on the lap though.
For me the weordest thing is that as soon as the kids were sat fown I would have been on 110% high alert if I had been the pilot monitoring, let alone the captain.
And as soon as something didn't go EXACTLY as expected I would have under no uncertain terms told the kid to let go and leave the seat.
It's absolutely mind blowing to me that they managed to even begin to overshoot their selected heading. That's the big thing for me in this incident... like... how tf could they let themselves lose situational awareness with a frikkin 16yo in the hotseat?
@@BjerkeRobin Yeah, the nonchallance of all 3 pilots is what blows my mind! First Officer is laid back, feet can't even touch the pedals, doesn't notice an unexpected 20 degree bank happening! He should have demanded to take the controls if the Captain was getting up, or at the very least remain hyper-vigilant monitoring everything.
@@RavenMobileI also love how they ask a 16 if he is doing anything to the plane after he noticed that the plane engaged in an ever increasing turn angle. The first person that was aware that something is off was an untrained 16 year old teen and 3 highly trained professionals just shrug it off.
I think your dad's story was a lot safer than the circumstances in this accident. The pilot was still in control the whole time and your dad would not have been able to make any changes or inputs without the pilot feeling it or otherwise noticing. I understand why it would not be allowed today but I think it's still a wholesome story and I'm glad your dad experienced it!
This is definitely different! This is still super wholesome bc I'm sure your dad wasn't doing anything to the yoke, and if anything went wrong the pilot would be able to take control!
I don't allow my kid to touch my car controls and here we have a pilot letting them fly plane. Insane.
planes essentially fly by themselves even more so on autopilot
so your car would have a locked cruise control and locked wheel, and you would be driving on a straight road
it's safer than sitting in a training car with a driving instructor
the problem here was the complete lack of oversight, not getting up to speed even after there are obvious anomalies, and then being a completely retarded monkey once they got in control
I remember as a kid getting in my dad's fiat tempra. He never gave me the keys, but I loved to play with the car and one time the car rolled a bit! I was scared as heck and never touched the car again, he probably noticed that the car moved a little in our parking spot. Luckily nothing bad happened. Kids tend to do trouble
I think this is about a pilots ego than love for his children. I suspect this pilot is a braggart and a show off. On that day it just happens that his kids were the recipient of it. This is not about a father's love for his children and I resent any implication that it is. A father who loves his children would never allow them to sit in the pilots seat of an airline that is airborne. Because you know kids they accidentally touch things. Matter of fact if I was 12 and my father said come sit in the seat of an airline that is in the clouds . I would be too terrified to do it
My uncle, who has a plane wanted me to be a co-pilot a few times and a co-pilot I was fine with but I would be too scared to touch any buttons unless my uncle tells me to since I had a fear of planes before I went in my uncle’s plane
I don't really agree with this comparison tbh, yes you shouldn't let your kid fly a real plane but in a car you constantly gave to focus on driving but on a plane in a long flight the pilots don't really need to do anything.
I am in shock that two professional pilots sat and bore witness to what was happening. This has to be one of the most negligent crises I have ever heard of.
right!? If stuff started going wrong one of the first things I would say would be to the Kids out of the area
"professional pilots" - no, creeps after hero worship.
I'm not defending the Captain in any way, but it is important to note that the captain believed that the Auto Pilot was flying the plane and his children were handling controls that merely felt as if they were flying, like handing a child a controller that isn't plugged in kind of thing. None of the flight crew was aware that the teenage boy's inputs partically disabled the auto pilot to allow this to happen. It is very tragic, but it isn't quite as irresponsible as if the captain _knew_ this could happen.
@@SatoshiMatrix1 but wouldn't it be common knowledge to know that Manual overrides the auto-pilot? Wouldn't the Captain know the basics of his aircraft?
And lets say for argument he didn't know. He should have taken note, that his daughter was able to turn the plane regardless of the auto-pilot, so tell his son to be cautious with the controls. Plus the auto-pilot should have somewhat been aware just incase
@@adrianworley7060 lol what?
This is unbelievable. Not only the dumbest decision ever made in a cockpit by letting children control the plane, but also the pilots completely failing at their emergency reaction despite having miraculously many opportunities the brave plane gave them to save the situation.
Not only dumb, but also a bizarre mix of unintentionally funny and tragic.
"we're stalling, let's input left rudder, twice"
When the son said that why they kept turning right, from that moment the father should’ve get back to the chair..
imagine being the loved one of a passenger on that plane and hearing that they died because a child was controlling the plane.. and also learning that there were multiple adults in the cockpit that could've easily prevented this from happening. this also just goes to show how quickly things can go south, seeing that this all happened in just over three minutes
Kids are great pilots, this one just sucked. Skill issue.
@@coachmcguirk6297 git gud, amirite?
Imagine how the pilot's wife felt after learning that she lost her entire family due to dad's foolish actions.
and all the people who died on board...
Yesh i really dont feel sympathy for her... this couldn't have been the first time the dad did something so dumb. He was way too comfortable
@@damabaithnd because of that you don't feel sympathy for her? Wow
@@damabaithwell, how should this affect your view on the mother? She probably had no idea this happened until the crash.
@@damabaithSo you're saying this accident was partially her fault and that she had it coming? If that's how you see the world and treat people, god bless you and the people around you.
Even the autopilot was confused about what was going on.
The autopilot should have ejected everyone from the cabin except for the girl, and taken full control for a safe landing
The autopilot was not confused. Witnessing so much incompetence gathered in that cockpit, he took his parachute and jumped.
@@FodoBolseta 😂😂😂
Autopilot: WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?!? LET ME DO MY GOD DAMN JOB FFS!
Sad incident 😭😭 , Rules were broken. Autopilot was silent, it could have given some warning when it disengaged partially 🥺🥺
My father worked as a flight attendant, chief of staff of the main cabin, in Air France. And because he was very appreciated in the company me and my little brother were often invited into the cockpit when we had to take a flight (this was before 9/11, in a time when this was still possible).
And while we were allowed inside the cockpit, not a single time were we allowed to come even close to the controls of the aircraft. We were there to watch, not touch, and both my father and the pilots were very clear about it.
Thus, what happened in this accident leaves me completely speechless...
As a pilot in training in the modern age It's actually crazy to watch this. The FAA would skin me alive and make other pilots watch if I even had a thought about doing anything like this
It‘s just crazy that the captain didn‘t yank his son out of the chair and took control right after the first anomaly happened. Wtf was going on in his mind as he told his son to correct his mistake instead of doing it himself. This was not a flight simulator this was a real commercial passenger flight… Some people are so crazy…
I can understand that in a cramped cockpit it's not easy to quickly get someone out of the chair and then move yourself into it...but at the very least, he could've -- and should've -- told his son to just *_let go_* of the controls. Telling his son to "hold" was the exactly worst thing he could've done. Then after the son would've let go, the co-pilot could've taken over and corrected the situation before it spun [no pun intended] completely out of control.
In Soviet Russia, the plane flies you. 😂
After this event they learned how the autopilot works & cuts off on the yoke. They knew to train the pilots more thorouhly . Yhey may have found out later in another accident down the road. A new plane the pilots didn't even know well yet.
He was probably too busy coming up with his Darwin Awards winning speech.
Well at least the stupidity in his bloodline ended right there
Imagine being the first person to listen to the voice recording, to understand what happened, and to have to tell your boss/others what happened.
Nevermind your boss, imagine being the company having to tell that to all the victims family! What a dumb pilot..
"Why are they dead?" - "The Pilot let his child play with the plane." ... *silent* that is so stupid, that I'm sure it would left everyone at first completely speechless.
@@Hoto74 If some told me that I'd probably think it was a crude joke because despite watching this video, I am still in disbelief as to what happened.
Depends who is listening to it. I'm sure most people were horrified, but that there were probably some people that were greatly relieved that they may not be sued (Airbus for instance, or the maintenance crew for the airplane, since it wasn't a failure of the Airplane itself). I absolutely can't imagine this, but it was from another time too that I wasn't a part of. A time when kids were allowed into Cockpits all the time and they seem to let them sit in the pilot's chair too - though not touch the controls, so stupid to do. And the co-pilot is just going to sit back and relax while they're doing this? Damn, move your seat forward, at least! And someone slap that kid in the head and get him to let go of the controls! That they ever allowed kids to jump in the seat is really bad, even if they're not touching anything - accidents happen! It's not a friggin toy! As Ren and my Grandfather would say: Cripes!
Sad to say... its Russia. It's the only semi first world, that has a history of dictators, whole sale killings, stupid accidents... reason everything is always covered up. They already know it was some stupid mistake.
Everytime I revisit this story i get even more appalled and outraged. The plane was trying so hard to save itself.
For this tragedy to happen, the worst possible decision had to be taken at every turn.
That's not true at all.
it s extremely true...why clowns like you comment to add nothing but delusion is beyond me@@RaniaIsAwesome
Yes it is@@RaniaIsAwesome
@@RaniaIsAwesomewhat do you mean?
The most heart-wrenching thing to me is how they nearly recovered it twice.
Plane was able and ready to save everyone. But humans insisted on otherwise actively.
I really can't comprehend how after going out of a dive you still keep the nose down and not monitor speed. There is so much wrong here even beyond god damn kid flying a plane. It's unbelievable to me that people like that fly. I'm not a pilot but that seems to be the most basic stuff to do meaning - not stalling an aircraft
The first thing that should have happened as soon as the bank exceeded 30 degrees was getting the son out of the seat, or at the very least making him release the yoke. The first officer could have recovered the situation had he not been actively fighting the son's oblivious and erroneous inputs.
When someone inputted rudder a second time after somewhat recovering from the situation that was caused by the rudder in the first place I shaked my head n walked away from my phone 😐
I don't understand why FO and Captain later kept pitching the nose up that high above horizon even after seeing the ground. It seems obvious that this will not help you get the plane under control, especially with low engine thrust. That's just the perfect recipe for a stall. It will shed the speed very quickly but surely there is a better way to do this...
When you said “this is only 3 minutes and 15 seconds after Eldar sat down in the captain’s seat” my jaw dropped… you explained everything so thoroughly it seemed like it took at least 10 minutes
7 minute difference eh lol. he said from the get go when co pilot contacted tower to give them their position that they were 8 minutes away from some way point. but you may have not caught that.
I thought the same. It always surprises me to find so many accidents and incidents happen within minutes (or sometimes seconds). Even Sully: Reading the CVR transcript, you might’ve thought that ordeal took 15 or more minutes with all of the checklists and communication the pilots executed when in fact it was barely 5 minutes from takeoff to landing in the Hudson. The amount of multitasking and prioritizing and recalling information pilots do is nothing short of impressive. Sad that they weren’t able to recover their aircraft in the Aeroflot case.
@@goodbyemr.anderson5065 It's not specifically that he mentioned it, it's just the amount stuff that happened within those 3 minutes, that makes it feel like it was much longer.
Descending at 39,000 feet per minute!
@@MrT------5743 that is an insane situation
Incredible that they didn’t get Elder to move out of the pilot seat even as the plane was stalling
This is just stunning to me. Shocking that the Captain would even consider this being a good idea, and unbelievable the FO allowed these kids to even SIT in the cockpit seat.
This has to be infuriating for the families of the passengers, to know that your loved one died a terrifying, potentially painful (all unsecured objects and anyone not wearing a seatbelt would’ve been thrown around as a projectile) death because of something incredibly stupid that the pilots should have known better than to do.
@@auralplex that one guy…
It was murder there is no other word for it.
@@petethewrist Murder is an intentional act.
sct11s45 probably less incompetent thant you😆
@@auralplex it does seem that their training was inadequate. It seems that Airbus also failed to design certain elements into the proper operation of the aircraft. One thing is that whenever an aircraft is attempted to be flown beyond design limits the aircraft itself should be allowed some degree of self control to remedy the situation. Warning and alert systems should have separate audible alert messages. There were so many things that happened here that could have helped the pilots regain control of the aircraft.
Out of all the airline disaster cases I've seen, this one is easily the most infuriating.
well yeah, this is pure incompetence and negligence, there were no outside conditions, no mechanical failures, nothing, they were completely in control of the completely fine plane the whole time and they still managed to crash
And scary. That insane rollercoaster to death is nightmarish.
Because its russia 🤷🏻♂️
Yep. It's the most stupid accident in the whole airline disaster. Simply shameful behavior, showing the peak of human stupidity and ignorance on its extreme. If i was the wife and the mother of such children, i would just kill myself to spared me from humiliation of associating myself with those retards. 😢
Say what you want about the Russians, but they always go big when fucking things up.
To say that this crash was the result of pilot error is the understatement of the century.
This is truly an astonishing level of incompetence
I can hardly imagine the level of irresponsibility and recklessness this pilot showed when he let his kids (with no flying experience) actually control the plane. This is mind-boggling!
His level of irresponsibility and recklessness pales by comparison to the other two pilots who were there. He was trying to show off for his kids and allowed that to interfere with his judgement. But the other two pilots *allowed* him to do that. Those two were worse imo.
Explanation - its russia
I’ve been allowed to fly a plane with no experience…with no passengers…and not an airbus.
Idk. When I was a child starting at age 10ish my best friends dad would fly us to Mexico every summer and holidays .. He would let my friend, a girl of the same age as I was, fly the plane. He sat right next to her the whole time. There was never an issue... Of course it was a small plane (there weren't so many computer issues - confusions that could happen) plus my friend had actually learned how to fly because her dad always let her fly....
Back then, it was way more lax and people didn't see any issue in it (and in general, safety regulations were way less strict). Around the same time, pilots would let the 10 years old me to visit the cabin and press a button simply because I was wrecking havoc in the salon and my parents, cabin crew and a few random people totally failed to get an overly excited kid to calm down. I was not even related or whatever. Afaik it was a fairly common practice.
I’ve binge watched about 20 of these and this is by far the most painful so far. How incredibly sad and I can’t help feel anger at the Captain for being so stupid.
It was the entire crew who allowed children in the cock pit and captain seat.
Co pilot wasn’t in position to take over the controls
FURY! And also at self - for watching this kind of 'content' @ midnight and then trying to sleep. Duh!
Same😂
I agree
@@linmonash1244 same
This is why you shouldn't let your kid come along at your work unless you can still be professional and you can control your kid's actions. I remember when my Mom, a teacher, let me be with her in her class, the students were distracted because of me. My Mom never let me come along anymore.
Watching this was so infuriating. Such levels of negligence are terrifying
Taking such risks is one thing when it's just you and yours, but another realm entirely when you have the lives of passengers in your hands. Absolutely irredeemable
couldnt have said it any better. Just incredibly frustrating to hear this happened on an OCCUPIED flight. What a tradegy.
Exaaaactly
The problem here is not that he let the kids sit at the controls. The problem is that the pilots were not closely monitoring the situation, and that they did not tell the kid to let go of the controls and get out of the seat when things got unusual. Letting a well mannered youth sit in the pilot seat would be quite safe (even if it was illegal) if the pilots were closely monitoring, and took over at the first sign of unusual attitude.
@@calebbyers No. It would not.
You've conflated "It isn't 100% guaranteed to immediately kill everyone any time it happens" with "safe."
Very common mistake.
@@calebbyers you aren't allowed to make your child sit in the cockpit in first place,that was the root problem.
My father was a commercial airline pilot. I went to work with him several times, and sat in the jump seat. This would have been in about 1980. But the discipline was absolute. I was *never* allowed to sit in either pilot's seat in the air, or even on the ground once business was under way (for example, once passengers were boarding, or pre-flight checks needed to be done). I was absolutely forbidden from touching *anything*, and during critical portions of the flight (from joining the runway until the fasten seat belt signs were switched off, if either of them needed to speak to ATC, and again during final descent and landing) I was absolutely forbidden from speaking.
I did have a proud moment one day when I noticed something was broken which neither of them had noticed... we were on a charter flight from Toronto, Canada to Sarasota, Florida. The aircraft was a 737-200. About 2/3 of the way through the cruise, I noticed that the standby artificial horizon was not working. It was indicating a significant bank to starboard, about 20º, when we were most definitely straight and level, as both primary artificial horizons and our own eyes out of the windows all agreed. OK, not a very critical fault, but I was very pleased with myself for spotting it before my Dad or the captain did (should have been my Dad really, since the standby horizon was quite low down on the right, so much more in his line of sight rather than the captain's). 🙂
The other notable incident I remember was a birdstrike on the cockpit window on approach into Charlottetown. It wasn't a very large bird, and no damage was done, but it definitely made a mess and caused some issues for the captain's visibility. Birds definitely go "splat" rather than bounce off when they're hit at that sort of speed...
My uncle flew for southwest. He letme in the cockpit a few times. Other than not touching things we had a code. With that went out it was my high to not exist, lol
I too have ridden jump seat a few times as a kid, and every time all I did was sit in the seat and watch.
I did not even ask if I could touch anything, because I already knew not to.
This sounds exactly like driving in the car with my Dad 😂 What incredible memories…I felt like I was there, thank you for sharing this.
I can only imagine your pride as a child “that’s my Dad!” you must have felt 10 feet tall standing next to your Dad in front of all the passengers.
My own Dad has a lifetime fascination with aircraft. We attended the international airshow every two years when it came to our country, up until this day (minus the last couple years with Covid).
He would always sneak a peek into the cabins as we boarded our planes, and pre 9/11 my siblings and I were invited to have a look in the cockpit pre take off. The most excited one of all was my own Dad 😂
for his 50th birthday I bought him a joy flight in a warbird, with aerobatics & broke 5 G’s. To this day he talks about it like he was a damn top gun pilot.
My love to you and your father
@@ScoobyDoozy That sounds like a really great childhood ! I wish my dad has the same fascination on a hobby as your dad. He worked on the development and management of sea ports and unfortunately his job didn't really offer a lot of fascinating experience for a kid. He did take us on a ride on a tugboat with his friend once and it's quite fun to me especially since I was studying civil engineering at the time. I should keep in mind to take up a hobby or activities that I can enjoy together with my kids, if I ever become a father.
This is called complacent overconfidence. You start to think that you are so good at your work that you think that you dont need to be focused all the time. Stuff like this has happened to many experienced pilots.
Yes, and in this case maybe also overconfidence in the abilities of the plane's technique played a role: Some kind of unsinkable titanic.
Nah, stuff like this didn't happen to many experienced pilots. There is a big difference between a momentary lapse in routine actions (still not ok though but human and understandable) and knowingly endangering people's lives by actively putting your kids in charge of a flying plane and then not even contemplating what you would do if sg goes sideways. This is narcissistic levels of hubris, and I have zero sympathy for this arrogant imbecile. The problem is he killed a lot of other people, too.
I can’t believe it took him that long to take control over his son…this is horrific
His kids were spoilt. That's why he let his son fly the plane.
the whole ordeal was 3 minutes and 15 seconds meaning that probably happened in less than 60 seconds
That 3 minutes and 15 seconds for every passenger onboard must have been beyond terrifying.
can you imagine? Everyone falling out of their seat, being pushed down to the floor, then being lifted to the ceiling. My god man.
They would be most probably sleeping
Yes, sleeping peacefully like you would be if you were being thrown around on a rollercoaster doing 250 kts. FFS...
@@Jackdaw5just like a cat would stay asleep if it was being spun around violently in a washing machine drum haha.
@@prayasdash i guess they were awaked though
Imagine how the passengers inside the plane must've felt as it was flying at a 90 degree angle then followed by a nosedive!
"Oh, not again!"
😥 i can imagine they were afraid and feeling terror and traumatised. Not a good way to die, they suffered on the way down these passengers. I can’t imagine how the passengers might have felt when the plane started to turn and the tail. Spinned downward
I know I would be scared shitless
Doesn’t matter how tough you are, in a situation like that when something happends where you have no control and the plan is about to crash ,you will be terrified
@Janitor Queen Yeah, I'm actually mad now that I think about it. That level of true hell is just...
And THREE DIFFERENT PEOPLE that all should have known better let it happen in less minutes than there were bodies...
I literally can barely even imagine what it must've felt like for everyone on board, like imagine looking out the window, seeing the ground while pulling more than 4G and then suddenly just 0G.
I wonder how the real captain was doing? This was the backup captain who let his kids in. So did the real captain try to get to the cockpit? Sleep through it? Trust his colleagues until it was too late?
The poor passengers on board. Absolutely terrifying
aynnacross6370 no idea what the passengers were going through. Sure that this flight, could have been a recover one. If the captain had taken control. Why did the co pilot not keep check of attitude. He did push back his chair, why did he do that ? He was not monitoring instruments as he should have. Such an unfortunate incident, sure that could have been a recoverable one.
I just hate this story so much.. Such negligence. “No big deal, just flying this huge airplane with so many souls on board that have no clue what’s happening and trust me with their lives, why not let my teenage kids take control?” I’m half Russian myself and lived there half of my fife, and can confirm it’s a cultural thing. It’s slowly changing in new generations, but not fast enough..
Imagine you're travelling and see two children go inside the cockpit and minutes later the airplane goes into vertical dive....
I was thinking the same thing
I'd kill the captain after the crash!
@@Hondalover3000 yup... The " TEENS IN CONTROL" in the thumbnail of the video gave me a clue to what could happen
@@muhammadabdullah03 The correct title should be something like "Children (and the pilots) could not control the plane."
@@tokenlau7519 The term 'hooning' should be used, somewhere in the description of events.
I'm really surprised the Co-Pilot took such a relaxed stance when the children got into the seat. Maybe the respect for a senior pilot might prevent him from protesting the children getting in to the Captain's seat, but given that happening, I'm shocked he wasn't vigilantly monitoring and ready to take over if something went awry.
nah, it used to be the norm, I got into the cockpit as an unrelated child before 2000, though obviously I wasn't given control of the plane
the problem is that he didn't do anything even after there were problems
Assumption is the mother of all f*ck ups, and everyone assumed that the autopilot would be doing the flying. However, as soon at the uncommanded bank started, both the pilots should have reacted independently of one another, the Captain should have pulled his son out of the seat and the first officer should have assumed control until the Captain took over, it would have rectified the situation before it even started and it might have been an interesting foot-note in a manual somewhere how the autopilot reacts versus a full blown crash.
I used to go into the radar atc tower at the traverse city, Michigan airport a few times a year before 2001. One of the things I hoped to share with my son. Now that’s something people can’t even imagine 🤯
@@Nickearl1 Yup, they say that's LITERALLY the most stressful job one can get.
Me too !
Took less than 4 minutes for the kid to crash the airplane. The father should have never let him even touch anything
I remember when I was a kid I was left in the car's seat on a slope and unwittingly disengaged the break. My uncle was fast enough to recover the situation even if he was pissed af. Letting a kid into the plane's seat is just mind bogglingly stupid
15:49 This moment seems to be the highest peak of the father's mistake. The moment that sealed their doom. Not getting Eldar out of the chair and getting back to the controls at this moment ensured everyone's death.
He clearly failed to remember what a teenager is, he acting like his son should have know what to do.
It was the stupidest part of the whole ordeal. The only thing dumber than letting your 16 year old fly is keeping him in the seat and barking orders at him on how to save the plane.
That is the most baffling thing I’ve ever seen. My brain can’t comprehend this lack of common sense.
at that point it was impossible for anyone to get out of whatever seat they were in without falling onto controls and fucking everything up even further.
he should have specificly told eldar to let go and the co pilot to fix the issue
@@Zodroo_Tint honestly many fathers are guilty of this
It's incredible how incompetent the three pilots in the cockpit were when things started going badly. Nobody to monitor the instruments and take charge when necessary.
also the pilot that allowed his kid to control a plane filled with people
It was an idiotic decision that led panic. That's why they couldn't get the plane under control
'Never leave your post', came to mind.
Abandonment of post
@@letmeexplain1816 oh right u said ssme lol
I've watched a lot of these videos now, and the amount of times that pride, ego and/or overconfidence has been a major reason for accidents that have killed thousands of people is frighteningly high.
Must all your pilots be humble.
This crash isn't just tragic, it is absolutely heartbreaking. I'm all in favor of more audible distress warnings and pilot training specifically for getting out of high altitude stalls and understanding how the Airbus autopilot behaves under these circumstances. I hope and pray that Eldar didn't go to his grave thinking he was to blame for the plane going into that awful dive. I can't imagine what it must have been like for the passengers and crew.
I actually did this as a young kid in a 707-320 with a pilot that was a friend of my fathers. Much later after working in aviation for years I realised just how incredibly stupid it was, this video just proves how quickly it could have all gone wrong!
I was lucky to have sat in the cockpit (jump seat) for 4 hours on a flight back from Africa. Wow - was that an experience I'm glad I had. OK, didn't get to sit in the pilot's chair, but these days the idea of allowing any non-crew member that access on a commercial flight would be treated as reckless.
@@robtalbot3852 Yeah back in the day was flying from Johannesburg to london as a kid. Got to go to cockpit and got the tour.
When I was little on my first ever flight the captain said that all kids may come to the cockpit to see how it works. It was only just quick peak though and the plane wasn't in action. We could ask question's about the plane and the controls.
I remember a kid getting to see the cockpit on a Sabena 747 from Atlanta to Brussels. I was bummed when I asked if I could look as well, and was told I was too old as I was 18. Looking back, I also realize how nuts that was
You know, I get how exciting this would be for an especially 16 year old boy... Very grown up. I can hear him telling his friends and classmates about it. Wow! He'd be riding hi;_
This is incredulous. In no other air disaster video has my jaw dropped so many times as this one. I still cannot believe this actually happened.
How bout the one, also Russian, where a pilot told his co-pilot on a dare that he could land the plane with the blinds closed (no visual reference), and crashed and killed most of the passengers... but he himself survived?
@@hetaresgaming7771 Oh. My. God. That is insane! Do you know which video that is?
@@awright119021 I wanna know too omg
@@hetaresgaming7771 since when do cockpits have blinds and if so WHY
@@Nielsquake0 Because of bright light. Above clouds, the sun can be very glaring and blind the pilots. The idea is to block the sun when it is shining at them, and at that altitude the pilot mostly let autopilot do the work anyway.
Well, thanks for this magnificent video. As a little boy between age 5 and 8 I actually visited cockpits during North Atlantic flights sevral times. The pilot(s) would let me stand say a step behind the middle console and watch. They would explain a bit about the many many dials and switches. And, yes, once a pilot demontrated a very gentle turn, possibly being part of the regular filght path. It was absolutely fascinating. All of them were generously responding to whatever question I had. Never ever anyone let me touch or move any switch, dial or the like. Aparently they acted very responsible while still giving me a fantastic insight into the world of aviation. (all of it prior to 9/11)
I had watched this incident on you tube previously, only by chance coming upon your explanations. Thank you it made it all so much clearer. Such a sad situation all round.
I've watched various crash videos but this one made me feel physically ill. I can only imagine the thoughts and feelings of the investigators when they listened to the cockpit voice recorder playback and realized what happened.
And the passengers, their thoughts and emotions when you have so much time to know you are going to die.
Unfortunately so tragic, yet preventable.
Yeah I thought I could watch it in an abstract way seeing I knew the outcome but I felt the exact same way.
@@messenger8854 This is the first crash video I watched and I'm feeling ill.
I’ve crashed multiple planes on Flight Simulator so I can relate.
This is mind-boggling even when they realize that s*** is about to go to hell he doesn't get his kid out of the seat but instead starts giving him commands on how to recover the plane that is just insane
How he didn't tell his son to just let go so that the co-pilot could take over is beyond me
Agreed. He should just have pushed his son aside to regain control of the seat instantly. They really need to do some IQ tests on the pilots.
I can explain this one. He simply couldn't do it physically. There was a lot of g-force and the only thing he could do is scream commands which his son couldn't interpret correctly. When he took the seat it was too late
@@revina8868 that much is true, but there is no reason he didn't just say "let go." It was all he needed to do. Instead of trying to coax a teenager through how to fix the mess, he should have just told him to take his hands off the control, and the co-pilot could have stopped everything (though truth be told, the way both of them still fucked everything up when they actually were back in control, it's even questionable that the co-pilot would have been able to fix it anyways).
That's the difference between this and a crash caused by a teen driving with their parent on the passenger seat: there are TWO controls. All Eldar needed to do was open his hands, and his inexperience would instantly stop mattering. Instead his father tried to yell at him highly technical words with different meanings to untrained people... Stupidity.
Exactly I don’t even kno what to say and think .
🤣🤣🤣He probably blamed his son in his last moments "Youre ljust ike your mother!".
Damn! 3min and 15sec is a lifetime in flight! Yet such little time when things go wrong... Tragic tragic story!💔💔
There's one more fatal Aeroflot accident where the reason for the accident was Truth or Dare game. No wonder Aeroflot has the highest number of fatalities!
Every time I see this story, it blows my mind that the captain chose to have a family party at the controls, while the 1st officer sat back as a passive observer. This is by far the most informed and best recreation I have seen.
Only it happened with Russian pilots which they don’t think about any consequences cause their Communists party of Russian keep the people outdated
Most informed and best. Funny, but Mentour Pilot often does that. This is not the only crash where I have watched someone else's version and thought that the events were mighty complicated and so I could not remember much. But now I see that they managed to save themselves twice, and only made it to the place of the accident on the third upset.
In the children's defence, the real problem was the strange autopilot function and lack of knowledge of the function.
And he leaves his son in the pilot seat for much of it!
Oh those Russians !
At some point the Captain felt that his son could recover the situation in the plane. This is totally incredible to me.
He should of told him to get out of the Seat as soon as possible, incredibly stupid.
Nonsense. If his father did think something so stupid, he got what he deserved. HE KILLED the other passengers and crew
It looks like a narcissistic father and his golden child. (I don't blame the son, though.) Narcissists think that their children are far better than a regular person - actual geniuses in a making. Then they allow them to do things, other, mentally healthy parents would not allow their children to do, as they know that children are inexperienced, so they should not be put in risky situations and want to protect them.
@@Julienna and also the pressure he must have felt to impress his father especially as his sister had done it without any issue.
@@Julienna exactly my thoughts
Stumbled across your channel while searching for the Tenerife incident and HOOKED at how you explain the technicalities behind (with visuals provided). Subbed without a doubt 🎉
This is just too hard to watch, my heart feels so freaking heavy and im very frustrated yet angered because of the stupidity of the captains.
It's unbelievable how fast this all happened. From the spoken description, it feels like 20 minutes of time to try and recover. Then you hear him say how this occurred across a short 3 minutes, give or take. I can't imagine how the families of the victims feel.
At least it was a quick end
@@roro4787 true.
This is what commenters here need to understand
"They should have done this and this..." You have the privilege of time and hindsight, they didn't, however the kids still shouldn't have ever touched the controls, that's fully on the pilots
@@RandomHandle837 Everyone can say that the kids should never have been in the cockpit. Period.
horseshit, as mentor said himself, the pilots were bellends themselves and screwed a svaable sitaution even when they got to the controls@@RandomHandle837
Even though, like me, we’ve all seen 2-3 channels cover aviation accidents, I think we all love Mentour’s insight as a pilot and technical details of the model of the plane, and how the pilot would view certain events giving the time period and training.
Agreed..spot on
Yes they are better the other ones are filled with errors the cockpit isn’t even the same in the other ones
Yup, seen exactly this one many times but I still want to watch his specific commentary. Amazing speaker.
Yep, definitely my favorite.
What channel do you watch
You would think that as soon as they would recognise something was wrong the pilot would actually take over he keep his son in the seat . Man he was so negligent.
I feel bad for the first pilot who had done everything right and had gone back to rest trusting professionals were in control. May all the souls RIP.
Wow, that cockpit was filled with clowns. Broke every rule and then responded incompetently during the whole event. It was a tragedy for the innocent passengers.
The children are just children, they’re not at fault. The pilots are.
@@fart63 Who said anything about the children being at fault besides yourself? Projecting maybe?
@@seektruth3307 because the children are inside the cockpit? You can't comprehend your own sentence? You're a clown or something?
@@lordpeterturbo5216 I have no more need to respond to a dufus. So go pound some sand friend. 👈😏
@@seektruth3307 You did. " that cockpit was FILLED with clowns" .
18:43. I couldn't believe the kid is still in the pilot's seat, and what's more unbelievable he's being given commands to fly the plane. Madness and also sadness.
One of the deadly sins!
Pride!
In this case pride in the off spring!
And pride is the 1st of the deadly sins. And is considered to be the most deadly of them all. With this being a great case in point!
He was not given commands. The commands were for the co-pilot. The son of the pilot only thought that the commands are for him.
@@philherb3843 you can split hairs all you want but the points are
1. Kiddies should not have been at the controls---- EVER!!!
2. What's the title of this video again?
3. While the pilot was totally out in left field in this whole escapade, the first officer was equally at fault with his laissez-faire attitude! There was ABSOLUTELY no one flying the plane all the while the kiddies were at the controls. The fact is there was no one at the controls to fly this machine in case of a problem. There probably is a reason for 2 pilots on a airliner, but I can't quite recall the rational at the moment. Hmmm........
There wasn't even 1 person ready or able to fly the plane, in position to do so, which is of coarse why it crashed!
It can certainly be argued the kiddies were in control of that plane as much as anyone else! No one on the flight deck had the slightest idea what they were doing! Obviously!!!
My sympathies lie with the passangers and their families.
Not the 5 nitwits up front 'playing pilot'.
@@philherb3843 the commands were for the FO?
Really??? Sure you want to go with that???
Esp since the FO was not able to reach the controls due to the positioning of his chair, and the subsequent G forces.
Barking orders at someone unable to comply was, obviously, of NO HELP TO AMELIORATE THEIR PERIL!
But I'm sure, Phil, you will object to even this characterization! So show us, show us all, the depth of your facility in this matter, your sheer brilliance. Please!
wtf... i am only at 14:47 and had to pause the video a couple of times and read comments to calm myself down
"Hmmmmm, let's let my completely uneducated children who have never even been in a sim fly a commercial aircraft with dozens of people on board."
*kid starts messing up*
"Hmmmm... it'll be fine"
That pilot should have ripped his kids hands off the controls the second the smallest little mistake happened
I saw an overly dramatised version of this incident on another channel, so I was glad to see it here, since I know this channel only deals with facts and opinions based on experience.
I felt quite uneasy while watching the dramatised version, but that anxiety returned watching it again. Such a senseless crash and subsequent loss of lives! It greatly saddens me. I was sad when they stopped letting children into the cockpit (I was fortunate enough to be let in a couple of times), but now I completely agree with the decision! Even having outsiders' presence there could be a potentially fatal distraction if there happened to be an emergency. It's amazing how much difference just a few seconds makes!
I flew into Moscow (from Bangkok) with my family on this VERY aircraft in the early morning just before the accident flight. After our flight, the accident flight took place. I was 9 years old, but because of the event that took place afterwards, I still remember the plane and our flight vividly. We sat in the first row behind business class on the right side, I sat in the seat by door R2. During the flight, my dad asked one of the flight attendants if I could visit the cockpit and was given permission (it was only a very short glance around visit). When we landed, we disembarked via L1 via the stairs and I will never forget the background music that was playing via the PA; it was the POPCORN song...and the flight attendant that stood in the aisle with her arms crossed and tapping her foot to the tune, waiting for business passengers to disembark before letting us (from economy) out. Everytime I hear that tune anywhere, my first thoughts are the Aeroflot A310.
holy!!! Sooo sad😢
That is so funny because I was on the same flight in seat r3 and I was 8 years old. I can certainly remember that popcorn song. Good times.
@@kurzhaarsilva greetings! Can't believe that my post was red by someone of the same flight, from nearly 30 years ago :) Cheers!
@@YUGOAustralia that's destiny. You have a good memory but so do I . How do you not remember me? I shared one of my lollipops with you , strawberry flavor I believe, and then we discussed Airbus 310 safety and how to fly it. Don't you remember?
@@kurzhaarsilva I do remember chatting to someone around my age, but I don't remember the lollipop or conversation. It was 28 years ago :) I do remember the main meal that was served, there was a corn cob in the meal and it had a very strong corn smell that made me not want to eat anything at all. :)
I mentioned this story to my dad and he recalled an airshow that he went to decades ago where they had a commercial jet fly over the show. He said it basically banked over the crowd and then pulled out and climbed away and he said, "Ummm, okay. That wasn't very cool." Then, the guy next to him, who was a pilot, said, "You don't understand how hard that maneuver is. Those jets are not nimble, the fact that the pilot pulled that off is incredible." My dad said it always stuck with him after that just how difficult it is to control the flight of something so big and powerful.
It's literally getting easier and easier. Most pilots that causes crash almost 100 procent of the time always make things worse
Surf for the hotrod pilot that banked a B-52 at an air show. He nor his crew made it…Good, that it made it well past the fans…
Incredible video. Riveting explanation. Truly unbelievable story. For the first half of the video i was thinking "how can this possibly go so wrong that the pilots couldn't recover?". But then to hear a detailed explanation of the accumulation of errors that led to the complete loss of situational awareness. And then to realise it all happened in the space of 3 minutes.. wow.. talk about when good times go bad.
This incident angered myself more than I expected. Such a terrible decision and poor reaction. So unnecessary.
as sad and tragic as this is, I am a former firefighter - I would have never let a child drive my 40-ton truck...so sorry this happened
train engineer here.
nobody is touching my controls while I'm driving either. feels like common sense to me.
really tragic, very preventable accident.
@@RufftaMan And presumably you also are not texting with your favorite railfan while driving a commuter train in a crowded metropolis...
The first vehicle I controlled was a small artic tractor unit. It was only the steering as I couldn't reach the pedals. Where ? Down the runway of course - at 15 MPH ! That was the speed we went when pulling out the winch cable for the next glider launch.
The first vehicle I drove completely, I was aged 10/11 was a forklift truck (manual gearbox).
@@millomweb I was driving a backhoe and loading pickups before I had my learner's permit. but I had proper supervision and training before I was allowed to operate it on my own.
Not quite the same, I'm guessing your truck didn't have an autopilot feature.
I went into this thinking they survived and the pilot was fired or something, but I'm legit speechless.
I was also hoping for it, but was terrified at the end.
He and his children were fired from life.
Oh no, he likely wouldn't have just been fired, that's the kind of mistake that would possibly get you (unjokingly) executed for a lack of regard for human life.
That poor kid in his last moment was thinking it was his fault when ultimately it wasn’t at all. It’s also shocking how fast the whole thing played out. Just 2mins from the mistake happening. So sad.
Eldar was impaired (on prescription barbiturates) at the time and well known to routinely exhibit erratic behavior. You cannot say that he was not at least partly responsible for the crash.
@@nora22000he shouldnt have been put in the position to fly a comercial airliner then
Well, it was his fault. Maybe not entirely but he was still the one in control.
@@lewis8634 exactly my point, thank you
Love your channel. Great work. Better than any TV show. Keep up the awesome work
"This is your pilot speaking. Im letting my kids fly the plane over Siberia"
"Thanks, I'll take the next flight"
My thoughts exactly, let's take a poll of the passengers before take-off to see how many would be OK with children that have zero understanding of piloting a plane, taking control of the flight. 😮 A crew of total morons.
18:09 ...I just want to cry "HANDS OFF!!!" to Eldar so much, as he certainly is just doing as told and has no idea...
Yeah, the poor kid was most likely freaking out, expecting his dad to fix the problem he threw Eldar face first into. But instead, daddy dearest was just sitting on his hands and yelling useless crap that wouldn't help anyone. How he even became a pilot in the first place with such a lack of common sense is beyond me.
Sad-the Father was a a bit of a bossy nut obviously, the children did as they were told and the other 2 pilots were scared of him obviously
eldar is a lousy kid
@@SatanicBarbeque If he had just a tiny amount of intelligence he wouldn’t have piloted it in the first place. There’s a reason why the pilots are trained so much, even with autopilot. The others in the cockpit should have had some common sense as well
Same. I'm baffled that the father, when he yelled "hold it", didn't notice and tell his son to let go of the yoke (and gtfo out of the chair). He should've noticed that his son was holding the yoke in place.
Before 9/11, when I was little kid, my parents asked if I could see the cockpit. I've always loved airplanes and dreamt of being a cargo pilot one day.
To my surprise not only did they say yes, but an air stewardess escorted me just a few minutes later, while at cruising altitude to the cockpit! It was AMAZING.
Now they said: "you can only go up to this point, ok?" I was in awe, so I just nodded while looking at that amazing aircraft. After having the view of a lifetime, I was then escorted back to my seat and got one of those replicas of one of the airline's airplanes.
Best flight EVER! It was on Brazilian airline Varig. They have since gone out of business, but they were THE best is South America and a contender for any other big carrier for sure.
Same on domestic flights in New Zealand - they’d let any minor who wanted to look each a walk up, and if they were an unaccompanied minor they got to hand out lollies 🍭
@@izabellapinker9705 I got to do that many times but they never said okay, now sit down and grab the flight controls...
I’m speechless! Totally respectless and responseless letting children play with the instruments in the cockpit during a airplane full of passengers!
My mom was a flight attendant in the early 80s, and I remember getting to see the cockpit pretty regularly when flying with her as a kid. The pilots even had little stick-on pilot wings to give out to visiting children. But…it was always after the end of the flight…at the gate, and obviously not in the seat or anywhere near the controls.
I remember those wing pins! I had a collection from traveling extensively as a child. Remember those bags with all the goodies? Crayons, coloring books, little stuffed animals, chocolate and comic books? On the Concorde they gave us a really cool bag of stuff it had little slippers and a miniature model plane and chocolate coins and my mom still has them somewhere in a box in her attic. Not the coins, we ate those. And they gave us little pillows for sleeping with blankets and slippers. We got to visit the cockpit during the flight. We always asked to meet the pilots. Sometimes they allowed us in during the flight (the long 16+ hour ones, when most people were asleep or things were very quiet) and sometimes after the plane landed. I loved flying in the 70s into the 80s. Flying was fun and comfortable back then. It totally sucks now. I won't fly anymore. I drove from Key West to Beverly Hills and up to PA from the keys and across from California to and from the East coast and then down to the southernmost point multiple times because that's how much I hate to fly. In fact, one of the last flights I took was on British Air and everyone was smoking, including me. Even if you didn't smoke you were smoking, if you know what I mean. Cough. And the food was really good back then, too. Now it's inedible slop. I flew to S. America last year after decades of not flying and paid for a first class ticket on 2 flights. One to San Jose and one to Bogota. Bogota cost over 1000 compared to San Jose for less than 300. I ate and drank unlimited on American in first class. Bogota same length less than 3 hours and both in the early evening. Avianca gave me a pathetic little bag they called a snack and a tiny bottle of water. No dinner! Only water to drink. I had 2 dinners and lots more on American. So I pitched a fit and turned around and said to everyone else in first class "How much did we pay for our tickets and they give us a tiny bag of.. bird food?! I don't even know what that was. Not pretzels, not chips. Looked liked the monkey biscuits I used to feed chickens. I hate flying now. Never flying again, I'm done.
Do you remember PanAm, Skytrain, SwissAir, Braniff, British Overseas and Interflug? I flew on of those dinosaurs. The best were the PanAm 747s, those were awesome.
Do you like movies about gladiators?
This was my thought. Okay, you want to show off the plane or you being a pilot to your kids. But can you do so when you don't also have the lives of tens of others relying on you? I can't wrap my mind around a sane person asking their children to "play at flying" in a commercial flight mid flight. Unbelievable! I can't.
In my opinion the correct word is. Stewardess 😊
This has to be one of the worst, if not the absolute worst case of negligence in a cockpit. Everything is outrageous and you can't imagine it being more outrageous... until you realize that even when the situation is critical, the pilot's child is STILL on the pilot's seat, in control of the plane! This is beyond my comprehension of human stupidity.
That is exactly my sentiment.
A very stupid captain that one
@@Celisar1 I agree, but critically like Mentour said, the whole situation happened from the kid sitting down in pilots seat to crash was only about 3 minutes, during much of which there were G forces pinning him to the seat. The real mistake was ever letting an unqualified operator, let alone a kid, into the pilot's seat.
Alongside air france 447
@@Adriana-eu6ty this is way worse, at least in terms of stupidity. Air France 447 was awful but you also feel bad for the pilots. not here.
Having had a dad that was a plane mechanic in the USAF, i saw a few planes cockpits in flight. Kids up there wasn't an issue, kids messing with controls was a no no.
I support kids going up and being allowed to ask questions.
It sure was nice going up and seeing daylight, cargo planes inside are boring😂.
Plus it was cool knowing my dad was the mechanic that made this plane safe.❤
Very interesting video - I love the way you explain things to the lay person so we can understand exactly what happened here. It's also alarming that no-one appears to have told the son to let go at the very start of the panic. A very sad, pointless waste of life and an utter calamity in the cockpit
The most insane part of this story is that no one seemed to try to get the actual pilot back into the seat when it seemed even SLIGHTLY dangerous, while getting them into the seat is obviously dumb - this could've easily been alright if someone just went "yeah get ouf of the seat"
Makes me proud that as a parent I'm willing to tell my kids "get the f*ck away from that!"
As soon as they noticed the plane was turning the captain should have told his son to fck off and taken his place in the seat. Instead he ordered him to do something using technical jargon and it doomed them all.
the pilots were probably already drunk
If I were that kid I would have immediately let my dad back on the controls.
@@GooseGumlizzard shouldn't blame them though, it's very horryfiing to fly being not drunk, right?
There's one more question I have. How did the wife/mother of the family feel when she heard this... It must've have been devastating and infuriating to know your husband's reckless attitude killed your children, all those people on the plane and the husband himself!
She probably was on the plane too . If not , I’m sure she committed suicide not long after .
This is beyond stupidity
@@solomonarhin she wasn't on the plane and i think she was still alive (or is still alive?) when that one show called Mayday made an episode on this. I think it's called Mayday... I can't remember the names of the shows I watch
@@IrisRiedel6 oh ok . Was just speculating
@@solomonarhin no probs
@@solomonarhin Did you watch the video? His wife wasn't on board
I've heard about this crash before about 15 years ago or so on a documentary called "Air crash investigation" on National Geographic. It's quite amazing how some of these crashes happen! Thank you for sharing this!!!
This is one of the saddest/stupidest situations I have ever heard of!
The fact that the first officer (and even the pilot passenger) sat there while the pilot let his kids do this.... is ridiculous.
I love how, even when I already know about an accident that's covered in one of your videos, I still learn something new. Great video!
Jasper, I was just going to write same. Thank you. 💛🙏🏼
Mentour is the whipped cream on the cakes
That's true for each and every of his videos.
Mentour’s videos are so well done - format, graphics, content, narration - and so engrossing I literally lose track of time.👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Jasper, you are absolutely correct. My wife had to explain the movie Peter rabbit to me. That's how dense I am. Got to watch a movie and I mean any movie about three times before I get the whole thing. I guess it's from too many years working on big trucks and hitting my head. Always learn something new on this channel.
I remember when I was around 9, I was flying back to Brazil from Chile with my father (we had gone to Chile to visit grandpa) and on that flight, not sure if it was my dad's request or if the flight attendants simply took notice that I was a curious child, but anyway, they asked me if I would like to check the cockpit out while we were still flying. I immediately accepted and I still have this clear memory of standing at the entrance of the cockpit and the pilots smiling at me while they made small talk. I've always been curious, but skittish of new things, so even in the impossible scenario of them asking me if I'd like to sit on their chair, I'm fairly confident I would have refused due to my nature. This was around 1999 so before 9/11 btw.
The fact that this father made a fatal mistake just because he wanted to be the "cool" dad for a few minutes is one of the most irresponsible things I've seen.
I remember reading about this accident as a teenager. I couldn't believe this actually happened as it was so horrific and avoidable.
I can only imagine how much guilt the older brother must have felt during the last few moments, likely believing he was the one at fault, even though the two kids bear zero responsibility for what happened. All of the pilots in the cockpit should have known better and done better. This situation is saddening.
He had no idea. He probably thought the plane maneuvered the same as a car steering wheel due to him stating it was turning by itself
That is so petrifying. I cannot believe how long the captain kept this going with his kids. Why did the captain not take over the steering wheel when there was trouble, literally at the very second of trouble. Why did he think his son knew what he was doing? If I was his son, I would have jumped out of the seat and told him, “dad you take over”. God, it was almost 1 o’clock in the morning, should have had the kids fast asleep. 😔 Rest in peace.
When the pilot is a narcissist and sees his son as an extension of himself ……
@@njones8791 --my father was a fighter pilot, test pilot, crop dusters and corporate helicopter pilot. He was also a WW2 decorated hero of the Battle of the Coral sea. Narcissist he was--BIG time--but never with us kids. He just blew us off (we got the growing up rendition of a Narcissist father--just ignored.)
It was told to me that he sat women on his lap and flew. It was also told to me that he taught Evergreen Helicopter's first ever woman pilot.
But--us kids--nada.
In looking back, with this recreation in mind, our lives could have been a whole lot worse.
(Dad died in a car accident--not driving at the time--but directly related to his level of Narcissist personality, leaving a third wife to bear the blame of his Narcissist behavior. Sad.)
@@janaleland9038 Jana, in order to honor my parents ( my self) I had to look hard for things my parents did for me, & honorable qualities they had. In turn Letting go of all of they're behaviors I didn't care for. I do that for everyone I've ever felt betrayed by, & or disappointed in. I'd bet I could find qualities your father had, that I would love. My nephew has many reasons to Hate" his mother. He's now a grown man, until he honors his mother, he won't find Peace. Hearing him say F her. Is sad for me to hear. Once he starts looking for positive qualities, & things she did for him, he will be a better man for it. We don't know if this pilot was a narcissist. Even if someone is narcissistic, I wouldn't hold it against them. ❤️💪
he was going to if you heard but the g’s pinned him to the chair
@@Bellathebear777 I don’t know that they asked about what qualities you’d find in their father, but go off I guess… at least it’s clear that you have no ill intent… but yeah
This was so detailed thanks for the in depth commentary
This is the literal embodiment of "pride goeth before the fall". Such a shame.
This is probably one of the most frustrating videos that I have ever seen that kept getting worse and worse. I'm actually angry and shocked that this was allowed to happen with 4!!! pilots in that plane. So reckless and irresponsible.
They both lost their lives dont blame everything on the father you dont have the rights
@@sgxttt He’s absolutely right to be frustrated at the situation the flight crew put the plane in. The reckless decisions from the captain and the flight crew cost the lives of 75 innocent passengers
@@sgxttt the father is absolutely r***d*d and he passed "this" gene to his thick unfortunate children
I remember when I was a kid I was offered to sit in the pilots seat for a shuttle flight in a little Cessna.
I distinctly remember turning the pilots down because my parents always got mad at me for messing with things in the car and I had vague notion that touching other peoples buttons would get me in trouble. Hearing about this as an adult is downright chilling.
You already had a sense of accountability since you were young and also already had an idea of the do’s and don'ts. 👏👏👏
Sit in the seat but don't touch anything and get your ass out of there asap as the rudders are important in stall recoveries.. You would be in the way, kid ! Not a video game ! People die in planes.
It's quite eye opening into the thinking process and level of understanding of younger kids versus adults.
They never should have offered that. But even so, just sitting in the seat and sitting in the seat while actually putting your hands on the controls are very different things. Still, I'm very disturbed that this ever happened, even if it doesn't anymore (Has it stopped? Does it still happen?) I don't care if the controls are switched over to the co-pilot, I don't want kids ever in the pilot seat of a plane. I don't want anybody in the seat who isn't a trained pilot, but especially kids. I get that they aren't supposed to have people in the cockpit anyway now, but it's really ridiculous that they used to do this. It is "used to" now, right?
When I was little, I visited some very extended family in another country. They had a really nice Mercedes (for the time) and I asked if I could sit in the drivers seat and play. They said, "sure, but don't push any buttons." I pushed THE button which was some emergency after-market "help I'm being car-jacked" alarm and my grandmother beat my ass. Don't put kids in these situations.
Your channel is AMAZING 👏 this is also so tragic 😢
The level of negligence is mind-boggling.
It’s incredibly sad to think about the thoughts going through the children’s minds in their last moments.. the panic and guilty must’ve been absolutely soul crushing.. awful
Not even their fault too, stupid ass pilots shouldnt have let them in the cockpit the first fuckin place. Jesus christ
Imagine if the kids lived and everyone else died. The kids would grow up so twisted.
I don't think the kids would even have known it was because of them. But soo damn stupid of the pilots to do this. But again this was swiss cheese. Multiple things went wrong at the same time for this to happen. If only one of those things would have gone right, they would have survived and the pilot would probably have been fired
I don't think they had time to realise much of what was going on. It all happened so quickly. Yes, the kids knew it was a bad situation, but I don't think they knew they were about to die. Also, it was dark so they probably didn't see the ground rushing up to meet them. Small mercies.
@@CaButa I don't mind kids getting to see the cockpit, but they should for sure not be sitting in the pilot seat and grabbing the controls or touching anything at all. This was 100% the fault of the backup CPT and the 1st officer and the passenger pilot for even allowing a child to take control of an airplane. It's probably a good thing that the pilots died because otherwise, I would hope they would be in prison for the rest of their lives and I hope the airline paid out some very hefty restitution to the families of those that perished that day.
This is so sad and heartbreaking to hear this story ...
I have listened and watched this story several times. It breaks my heart every time. Very, very sad. Bless that poor mother and family. It's a different kind of story from most of the other videos. It's truly tragic. As is all loss of life 🙏
Have to say Petter. You and your team are excellent video creators. The graphics are superb. Joined with your lovley armchair tale delivery. I've become hooked! Hooked on your channel 😅 Nobody does it like you guys. I've looked! Checked out some other other aviation story channels. They don't touch your work. So...
keep up the brilliant work. We need new stories. 🎉👏👊