1 year - 26k mile - Review - Ford Lightning
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- Опубликовано: 11 янв 2024
- This is my official review after having the truck for 1 year.
How much does it cost?
Is electricity cheaper than gas?
How much does it cost to charge?
Cost of ownership?
What is your first reaction to the Ford Lightning?
How long will a Ford Lightning last?
Do you still love to drive it after 1 year?
How far can a 2023 Ford Lightning drive on a single charge?
Have you ever wondered how to improve the range or even if you can improve the range of your EV?
Can you take a road trip in a F150 Ford Lightning?
Is Bronco Sport better than the Ford Lightning?
Where did I buy my Lightning? Phil Long Ford
In this video we are celebrating my Ford lightning now that I have owned it for a full year.
The 2023 Ford F150 Lightning Lariat trim is such an awesome truck. You can even take a road trip with confidence. If you leave it in sport mode, the regenerative braking will help extend the range whether you are driving in town or on a highway. 
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This has got to be one of the best reviews I’ve seen.
Thank you so much Tom!
Was at the dealership today and have been watching/reading reviews for months. This is the best video by far. I think I will got one and even post a video on my channel about how to wire the charger. Thank you!!!
Thank you for watching! Glad I could help.
Finally someone with sense thank you! I love my lighting
Thank you for watching!
No bad turbos, no bad transmissions, no bad transfer cases, far easier check outs as simply put far less to check out very impressive first start for what is a first of its kind battery electric full size truck market for Ford, Rivian and now Tesla. Lots of improvements now no doubt en route so be interesting to see if at one point you decide to trade and upgrade how that experience plays out as now there really are choices big time. As far as towing i think for short hauls under 100 miles this a game changer.
Good points. I have 32,000 miles on it right now. The battery has a 100 K mile warranty so I’ve been kind of up in the air about when to trade it in or if I’m gonna try to see how long it last and do videos about that.
But the big ? is the batteries. At a potential replacement cost of more than a motor and transmission that can easily last 300k miles with proper maintenance my guess is the savings in repairs is a moot point. Funny everybody talks about trading these off just prior to the battery warranty which shows a lack of confidence.
Good point. I’m new to EVs personally so yeah I’m not sure how long it will last, but it’s going strong so far and I’m gaining more confidence all the time. That’s one of the reasons to do the videos, not because I’m an expert. But instead just to show my experiences and hopefully help others with any apprehensions they are having.
This is a breath of fresh air from all the vitriol out there on these machines
Just placed my order for 2024 antimatter blue lariat
Very excited!
That’s awesome. I hope you enjoy yours as much as I do.
You’re going to love it. Sometimes I just wanna go outside and sit in it.
One of the best reviews, really got me thinking on the Lightning.
Thank you for watching. Let me know if you get one. You can get one like mine in the low 60s now if that helps. You just have to find the right dealer. You can also look on a Facebook group called “No Markup Fords” and find good deals all over the nation on a variety of fords including lightning’s.
got a lightning 2months ago, absolutely love it. ICE owners need to understand that. EV owners love these vehicles because they drive awesome and are super smooth, not because we are saving money on gas or they are 'environmentally friendly' or lack of maintenance, all that stuff is great but it that's not why the majority of EV buyers buy them, it's because they simply drive WAY better.
The whole waiting to charge is such a stupid argument from ICE owner that don't know anything, 99.999% of your charging will be at home, you'll wake up with a 'full tank' every morning. yeah, if you take a trip you might have to spend a few extra min at a charging station...but that's what, 1-4 times per year ? it's not even an argument.
Anyways, at the end of the day, too each their own, love the vehicle you have, whether it's EV or ICE, I love mine, and I know every Ford Lightning owners love theirs.
Agreed! Great points Alan. That’s for watching.
Spot on.
You deserve more subscribers! Great detailed video
Thank you. I would like more subscribers too.
I also have a 2023 Ford Lightning Lariat, it is antimatter blue, and I have put a little over 17,000 miles on the truck since July when I bought it. I absolutely love the truck, I traded in a Model Y , I really liked, but needed a truck for work. I am amazed at how well the truck drives, I think it drives a little better than the Model Y, I hated to give up the Tesla, but I haven’t lost a thing in comfort with the Lightning. I also had an issue with my tires wearing on the edge, the dealer said my truck was out of alignment, I had snow tires put on the truck for winter since I am in New Hampshire, The tires haven’t shown any wear at all at 7000 miles, my factory Hankook tires shows wear on the edge at 10,000 miles. I did not get the truck aligned as the dealer suggested since I saw no signs of misalignment while driving. I wasn’t aware of the improper tire pressure on the trucks. Thanks for informing us of that.
Hi Dennis,
Thank you for watching. It looks like you are putting more miles on than me. Yeah the tire thing was really weird for me too. Here’s a video I did about it. Tire Issues Update with the Ford Lightning - Only 22k miles and the tires need replaced!
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I just got mine replaced with Falken Wildpeak At3w tires, and they seem to be doing great. The video for that one should post here in a couple of days.
Tell us about your experience trading in the Tesla.
Here’s the video about me getting new tires. I just posted today.
Tire Issues with the Ford Lightning - It’s New Tire Day!
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Thanks for a great review on your Lightning. Well done Mike.
Regards, Lindsay
Thank you.
I love my lightning. I only use it locally and only charge at home. I'm just starting to charge from my solar system. But even off the grid, I only pay $.08/kwh in winter and $.12/kwh in summer. Not many talk about this, but I connect my bed 240 volt receptical to a generator receptical located on my main service power panel and run all the essentials in my home for several days. It's also nice having a gas free nearly a 10k generator wherever you go
You are saving a lot of money for sure. Even more than me. Great job!
Fantastic review! Thanks for making it
Thank you for watching. I'm glad you liked it.
I really enjoyed this video. Great video
Thank you.
Just bought a BRAND NEW 2022 Lariat Std battery for $51k, nearly $25k off MSRP. Love the deal, love the truck
That’s a great deal good job
Wow 😮
how TF. I cant even find a xlt for 51k?
@@Tootyfruitymcbooty autotrader
Put nationwide
New
And search by lowest price
Negotiate from there
Here’s a new video I just had about it.
Get great deals on new 2023 Ford Lightnings still on the lot.
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I like the useful information, and I really like that you’re living in Colorado Springs and wearing a Dallas Cowboys cap.
Thanks :-)
I got almost 33k. Use it for hauling construction materials & large furniture, Runs Amazing. I love it. Max load I did is 2000 lb and hauling doesn’t effect the range. Game changer.
That’s awesome. What year and trim do you have?
2023 Lariat red standard range @@F150LightningMike
That’s good to hear the standard range does well. Have you towed with it? Or is it just hauling using the bed?
Thank you for your review Mike. I love my lightning lariat ER black. It’s comfortable and perfect for my needs. Finally something nice about the lighting.
Thanks for watching. I agree about the lariat. It seems like the perfect trim level for me too. You will hear me saying a lot of nice things about my Lightning. But I will also talk about some of the negatives in order to help people prepare properly :-). Like my next video that posts today where I talk about the high registration costs in Colorado. That should be public about 1pm mountain time.
@@F150LightningMike Yes I agree people should be informed. I payed $4872 in Florida for registration
That’s even higher than I paid. Is that including taxes or just registration by itself?
Here’s a link to my video:
EV Registration cost is outrageously high in CO!
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Great review man. I have a 23 Lariet as well. It is so much fun to drive and looks even better. Absolutely in love with its I’m glad everyone is enjoying them too!
Thanks for watching. I’m glad to hear others that are loving it as much as I do. I now have 33k on mine and still going strong.
@@F150LightningMike have you noticed any change in the battery capability? Are you following the 20-80 range suggestion?
I haven’t noticed any degradation in the battery at all and I usually charge it up to about 90%
Just picked up a 23 lariat er and love it. Also, love seeing the Springs behind you. I live very close to i25 and GOG
Hey fellow CO Springsian. Welcome to the Lightning family. The 23 Lariat ER is the same one that I have and really the best one to get overall.
Loved this review! I do video production as well and have always wanted more reviews from people who do too bc the Lightning seems to be perfect for that profession. I'd love to see what a load-in or load out looks like using the lightening! Thanks for posting this
Hi Justin, thank you for watching.
Here is a quick video of one of the load outs I did. I can pack even more in the back seat and frunk if needed as well.
Can a Ford Lightning Haul Anything?
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@@F150LightningMike that's awesome! Thank you
You’re welcome.
All the videos are great I did try to buy one but the dealer was manipulating the price as we were going with the sale when they just came out so I back out and really making the deal difficult for me I'll give it another chance later this year 😅
Yeah, I would go to a different dealer. I’m sorry, but a lot of dealers are crooks. Now is a good time to look for a good deal go to autotrader.com and do a nationwide search for the type of truck you’re looking for and call the dealer up and negotiate with them over the phone and it makes things a lot easier, even if you get paperwork started over the phone Personally I wouldn’t sign on the line until I actually saw the vehicle but whatever dealer you work with or look up all the reviews about them and you can tell from that usually if they’re crooks or manipulative. Hope that helps because now is a really good time to get a good deal on a 2023 if you can find the right place since there are still several on the lots.
Great review man. I have a 2021 Ford Maverick and it’s awesome. I graduate this semester and have a job lined up where their office has 8 free ChargePoint chargers to use for their employees (and there’s only 2 Teslas taking advantage of it). I’m really tempted to get a F150 Lightning as a graduation present and your videos have been a tremendous help. I still live at home with my parents, can install a charger at home, and help take over all their bills soon after I start working. I still want a truck and for my commute a F150 Lightning makes sense to me. My little sister turns 16 in September too so I can give her my Maverick.
Hey Jackson,
Thanks for watching. I hope you end up getting one. You will enjoy it. What trim were you thinking about?
If you have free charging at work that is the best option. You may not even need to charge at home much.
That’s really great of you to think of your sister for the maverick.
Hi Mike, thanks for the review. I'm pretty sure I've seen you on the highway, I also live in Colorado Springs and have a 23 Lariat antimatter blue standard range. I bought it in November and love it so far, I've only charged at a fast charger twice and it was at the phil long chapel hills dealer. The rest of my charging has been at home.
Awesome, yeah I think I’ve seen you too.
I have had mine a year. About 12k on it. And have taken a few trips. Blue cruise is such a game changer for long drives and its super quite inside. No issues yet and i also just got the heated steering wheel a few weeks back. I dig it
Thanks for watching. Agreed. BlueCruise is the best.
Love Bluecruise! So much less fatigue on long trips.
Agreed!
Hi Mike - Great review! I also have a 2023 Lariat ER in Antimatter Blue (and I also do not have the camera washers 😢 ). I just crossed a year as well on 1/6/2024 with 31,000 miles - no regrets and the truck has been phenomenal. I wish I had tracked the “fuel” as closely as you did but I believe I’m in the same range as you, for October we racked up 3,300 miles - only charging from the home Ford Charger Station Pro at 5 cents a KWh and the cost was about $120 for the month.
Build quality as you mentioned is great - no rattles, no “panel gap” issues - the truck is the smoothest, fastest and quietest vehicle I have ever owned. It rides like a luxury sedan, accelerates like a super car and tows and hauls like a truck. My daughter rides horses and when our barn hosts the 4H horse show - it’s all powered from the ProPower Onboard - no more running 300’ extension cords from the barn to the arena. I also have not towed yet with it but I have zero doubt it would handle the horse trailers for our local shows without issues - but long hauls may be less desirable - but doable - as several people on our NE Lightning Club can attest since they haul 36’ campers all over with them.
I also did not initially have the heated steering wheel - they took it off the price when I purchased - but then when the parts were available they notified me and we scheduled the install when they replaced the rear light bar (my light bar was not showing any signs of a leak but they replaced anyway) and that cost me nothing. I brought it in for all three of the 10,000 mile services where they rotate tires and checked the brakes (which I rarely use), CV boots etc. I chose to pay $78 for a wheel balance and $250 for a 4 wheel alignment when I noticed a bit of wear on the outside edges so all in for maintenance for me was $328.
Our first trip in the truck was from SE PA to West Palm Beach, FL - had no issues finding chargers - some sites had a dispenser with issues but never once was close to stranded or ever concerned and the 30-40 min break time was needed. Since then we’ve done trips to VA, NY, OH, MI - again - no issues on road trips.
Negatives - From July to about September the on-board modem was having strange connectivity issues - I mentioned some of these on the Forums (which Ford Model E Engineering monitors) and they reached out to me and I was able to install some remote diag tokens for their team and within a month they figured out what the root cause was, deployed to my truck and advised they used my experience to correct code for other customers and prevent it from happening going forward. Other than that - the only other negative was the skid plates seem to collect a LOT of snow which is not a bad thing unless you park it in the garage like I do - lol.
My next long haul with be to drive out to the Chicago Auto Show to meet our fellow club members from the MidWest Lightning Club and Ford at the show. Watching the weather closely but if it’s good I should be there!
Hi Kurt,
Thanks for your comment. I thought I have driven a lot, but I’m finding out there many people such as yourself that blow me away on the miles driven contest. :-)
It looks like we have twin trucks, but you seem to have a better cost of charging setup. (.05/kWh is less than half of my cost) That is awesome.
I haven’t had any problems with the internet, but I’m glad you got it fixed.
That is so awesome as well you are able to use it to power your barn for shows. It does not surprise me at all knowing everything that I’ve powered with it.
Thank you for watching, and I hope you and your family have a wonderful new year.
You rock. Rather, really appreciate it, wish there was a 2nd gen coming in 2025 but I don’t think there will be.
Thanks. Yeah my guess the second gen will be ‘26 or ‘27
Thank you for this review. I just bought a 2023 XLT Lightning extended range, and so far, I'm loving it. It's a solid truck. I test drove several trucks, including the gas version of the F-150, but nothing compared. I did lots of research and watched several videos from people who tested them. It just made the most sense for me.
Thank you for watching Tracy. I agree. It’s such a great truck. I have 32k on mine now. Just got back from a trip to Texas. Still running great. I hope you got a great deal. I’ve heard a lot of people getting good deals on now. Also make sure you double check your tire pressure it might say to fill them up to 36, but they are wrong. You need to do 42. And they should last a while for you.
The only thing that makes it tough to buy any EV right now is the depreciation....you have to keep a min 5 years or just lease it
That might be true, but the deals that you can get on some of the 2023s still on the lot can compensate right now for most of that depreciation. Here’s a video I did recently about that: ‘24 Lightning Orders Now Open! - Is it worth getting the 2024 vs 2023?
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Great update 👍
Trying to convince my wife, have your wife do a vid😁
Cheers
Eine sehr schöne Vorstellung des F150😊 mir gefällt der Wagen auch sehr gut.
Thank you very much, and thanks for watching.
Great video Mike! Got my '23 Lariat last month and am absolutely loving it.
That’s awesome! Welcome to the Lightning family!
Nice video- good information. I almost bought a Lightning a few months ago but got anxious about the road trip range in winter? Heard some bad experiences of people running out of range due to cold temps and headwinds and then being stuck at chargers for a long time. Do you have any experience with this? I would love a lighting but can’t get past the winter road trip range shortfall? Thanks for your input.
Thank you Justin for watching. You are correct to be apprehensive about the range in the winter. It takes about a 10% hit. But don’t let that stop you from getting one. Right now you should be able to find a good deal.
Here’s a video I did testing winter driving with my new tires.
Lightning Mike - New Tires - First Road Test
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My suggestion is to get the extended range battery, then in the winter the range on a road trip will give you about 250 miles max. However, what you do is drive no more than 70mph, and stop every 180 miles. Charge it up to 80% each time. It will only take a charge station about 25 minutes to do that. It will also give you time to stretch your legs every 2.6 hours.
Love the Lightning. Great video, maybe slightly over-edited, for example regarding tire pressure. It was stated the recommended 36 psi apparently contributed to wear on the edges of tires. What psi was it changed to? Was the ride negatively impacted? Did it seem to stop the excessive tire wear? Perhaps specific guidance is a liability issue. Very informative video overall.
Thank you for the comment. You are correct that I had to do a lot of editing. I started with about an hour of footage, and repeated myself a lot. I guess I am really excited about the truck. :-) Included in the cut was the statement about after Goodyear had evaluated my tires. They recommended a 40-42 psi. The problem with leaving that was liability as you stated. I forgot to say the exact tires they were, and with Ford putting a variety of tires on these lightnings I don’t want someone to follow my direction with different tires and it causing problems. For your info, these tires are Hankook Dynapro AT2. After I started increasing PSI to 40 it helped the problem, but once the winter started the tires already had too much tread loss on the shoulders to disperse water, slush, and grip in the snow. So I just upgraded to Falken Wildpeak AT3w tires, and will be posting about that video soon.
In the meantime, Here’s a video I did with more specifics when I had Goodyear evaluate my tires and suspension if it will help you. Tire Issues Update with the Ford Lightning - Only 22k miles and the tires need replaced!
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Enjoyed the honest review. My son calls the exhaust window the "Fart" window. I think he is a little more on the nose. LOL.
That’s funny, Jorge. “Fart” window. I love it. I had a lot more on my original recording of the video of me joking around about it.
Thanks for watching!
I been wanting this truck but I’m afraid of running out of juice. That the price might just shock me. So I’ll be putting this on my next car list!
When you do get one I hope you love it as much as I do. It really is a great truck.
I really wanted a lightening and had a preorder. But the dealers were jacking up the price with market adjustments. I ended up buying a Rivian R1t and I have no regrets
Good to know yeah, I heard about all the jacking up of prices in the beginning. The interesting thing is is that now you can get a pretty good deal on one.
I almost bought one after finding some around $10,000 under msrp at local dealerships, but I live in CA and am getting charged $0.48-$0.51 kWh for energy use at home, so the savings just weren’t enough for me at this point. Ended up going with a 23 PB which I love so far.
Yeah that’s crazy electricity prices. In my experience .40/kWh is the break even point. The only way it would be worth it for you would be if you had solar.
Hi Mike, thanks for your insight on your Lightning! I also own a 2023 Lightning since September and am loving it. One thing that bothers me and you all might have the same issue. When a single sensor fails the vehicle will not start. I had a "Pedestrian Sensor Failure" notice come up and the truck would not operate. I think for a simple sensor failure there should be an override feature allowing the driver to still use the truck. I had to get the truck towed to the dealer to fix. I've owned many F-150's without a "Pedestrian Sensor", and never hit one. Don't treat the drivers like children and let us choose what sensors should disable the vehicle. BTW, I Like your hard top where did you purchase it?
Hey Alex, sorry about the sensor failure. I haven’t had that issue. I got the bed cover from the Ford website and the dealership installed it. Here’s a video I did with more information about it.
What is the best cover for the bed of the Ford Lightning?
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One thing you left out though is with that many miles you definitely charged on the road plenty at around .45/kwh so you probably spent another $1k. Still a savings though.
And I say this as a lightning owner. On the road charging is basically the same cost as gas.
Not if you're an EA subscriber. It makes sense to subscribe if you're going to be charging away from home much. Saves 25% . Costs about. 17 cents per mile for my Lightning and costs about 22 cents per mile for an F-150 getting 18 mpg. But obviously, the big savings is home charging, I have solar and save big on daily driving.
@MrMcGiblets1 is correct. I had an EA app and membership. So charging on the road is much cheaper. 22k miles is all at home and I only took one trip for 2 weeks last summer and it was a long 4k mile road trip. You can go back and see some of those videos. So I used my membership when I was charging it was about .36/kwh at that time except for Texas and one other state where charging was by the hour so it was super cheap. Like 4-7 dollars to “fill up”. Also, I charged at hotels at night and that was free so it averaged out to be only about $.15 per kilowatt hour overall for that traveling time which was not much more than charging at home. Speaking of home there is a movie theater near my house that has free charging so I have saved a lot of money getting extra free charging over the year. So I averaged that in and it brought my trip down to the same price as the .11 cost of charging at home. Anyways, the plugshare app has really helped me. You should check it out if you haven’t yet.
For someone who’s been in the Tesla camp could you expand on what you meant that the lariat current pricing can be at or equal to the gas versions? I haven’t contacted dealers yet but want to do a test drive and have heard there are enough of the lightings on the lot wheee they’re generally trying to make deals.
Lovely truck, excellent review, really like it!
Thank you for watching.
I was specifically speaking about the lariat gas version versus the electric version. I have been seeing several different dealers on Facebook (there is a Facebook group called “No Markup Fords”) offering up to even 15 K off of MSRP just make sure that the MSRP is under 80 K and you will also get a $7500 federal tax credit , which can be applied at certain dealers at the time of purchase, which could equal about 20 K off of the MSRP price. So for about 60 K you could have a similar truck to mine however, mine was just over 80 K on MSRP but when I bought it it was in December 2022 so I fell under the previous rules so I still got the tax incentive.
If you had solar on your home, the use of an EV makes your pay back faster for the cost of PV system, it snowballs. I payed myself back for my 41 panels in three years. Granted, I’m in California and electric is crazy expensive but the math makes sense. I have two EVs and I’m looking to replace my truck with a lighting.
That is a good idea. We are looking at solar, but I’m haven’t pulled the trigger yet because we are deciding how long we will be our house.
The level 2 ford charger uses 6000 watts that has my 2 - 4400 watt inverters that run everything in my home right on the edge so I had to add another 4400 watt inverter to handle the house and charge my truck. I have right at 13,000 watts of solar panels so I can only charge my truck on really sunny days because I seldom get the full 13,000 watts of power from them. 23 kwh of lithium batteries so I like to get them fully charged prior to connecting the truck charger.
I only drive my truck a couple days a week and then only about 60 mile round trip max. So from 70% to 85% SOC it takes about 3 hours to charge. But I can always charge a little on several days to get it back to 85%.
Hey! Im also a Sienna/Lightning Lariat owner. Good combo for families!
Hey Cassy, thanks for watching. Agreed it really is a great combo. They definitely have different pluses and minuses though. Like this video I just posted today about the difference between jumpstarting a lightning and a Toyota Sienna:
How to Jumpstart a 2022 Toyota Sienna - Lightning Mike
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@@F150LightningMike ha! I think all Toyota hybrids have their 12v batteries in the back. I know the Prius does. Weird.
Agreed. It’s just so odd also that if you are going to have access under the hood that you should be able to attach cables easily. It’s still a great van though.
Great Review - I run a landscaping and mowing business, and I'm considering getting an electric vehicle (EV). But here's the thing: I tow around 3500 to 4000 pounds every day. Do you think this would impact the EV's range? Any insights?
Thank you. Yes towing will impact the range. When you get one make sure you get the Extended range version to give you the most range. Regular driving will give you 260 - 320 miles depending on driving conditions, speed and weather and whether it is summer vs winter. Driving in town will also get you better range than driving on the highway.
I haven’t tested towing yet, but info that I have gotten from reliable sources on towing say that if you tow you should expect to get anywhere from 100 - 175 miles based on the weight you are hauling and driving conditions/speed.
They also say that it tows like a dream.
Something else to note: even though I don’t tow personally, when I haul equipment in the bed and frunk there is no impact to range for me. Hope this helps.
EV maintenance includes changing (or cleaning) the cabin air filter every 7500 miles and replacing the wiper blades every spring (because winter is brutal on wiper blades). Thanks for sharing!
Good points. Thanks for watching. Ford does recommend going in every 10k miles for EVs. For me though I only changed my cabin air filter at 30k because that was the first time they recommended it. Besides that you’re right there’s not much to do except rotate the tires and check the brakes.
Here’s a video I did recently after my 30k service.
30k service = $0 - Lightning Mike
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My 10k maintenance was just tire rotation and check lube areas and top off my windshield washer fluid. $85. I'll be asking for a breakdown in charges before I get my 20k done.
I think an umbrella should be standard equipment for EVs. I would also suggest Plug Share to look at your charging route options.
I love the plugshare app.
I talked about it in this video.
Ford Lightning Roadtrip - Day 3 - Don’t use ABRP app!
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Nice review. I’m very interested in an electric truck. Currently I drive a 2019 Ram 1500 Laramie and I love it but really need a bit more towing capacity. I’d consider getting your truck but I don’t think it would meet my needs with my specific camping trip. It’s about 200 miles in October in Michigan. I’d really like to try it in your truck. I just think my usual 4 hours would be much longer or I’d get stranded. The range would probably by at put in half towing my trailer.
Thanks for watching. Yeah, if you are towing more than 100 miles one way you will have to prepare to charge on the way at least once, but the cool thing is that while you’re there if you have a 240 outlet for an RV, you should be able to charge up your truck while you’re camping as long as you have the right adapter.
The storage space is the big advantage of this vehicle. I’ve taken it on family vacations with the beach stuff in the back and luggage in the front. If you plan your trip, charging is no big deal - I have to stop every couple of hours with the kids anyway! Still loving my 2022 Platinum after a year and a half - I know the resale will be lousy but I plan to keep it until it’s dead.
Great point. I plan to keep mine for a while too. I’m at 31k on my ‘23 Lariat.
@@F150LightningMike that’s awesome - I’m almost at 11K on my ‘22 so appreciate the update from your end!
You’re welcome. Let me know if you have any questions and I can put it on my list to make a video about.
I have been looking at these in the long-range version the thing I don't understand is the trucks I have seen have a stated range of 134 miles on the dash guage at 55 percent battery that is only 243 miles total range. This was on the Lariat trim. Any thoughts? Thanks
The stated range on the dash is what we owners call a “guessometer”. Most of the time it’s wrong. Which is sad because. Now you have to do the math manually, but you get used to it. You go by the percentage on the battery and the mi/kWh you are averaging then multiply that number times whatever is left of the battery. If you have an extended range it’s 131 kwh when at 100%
As far as EV trucks go...yes they aren't great if you're towing long distances regularly but most truck owners rarely or never tow...I think it's something like 80 or more percent of truck owners don't tow. The Silverado EV with the big 215kwh battery is probably the way to go. Kyle from Out of Spec has done a bunch of testing lately and it seems quite capable of towing long distances and it can charge at over 350kw pretty deep into the battery pack (with the right charging station).
Good insight … I’ve watched some of Kyle’s videos and it is very helpful to see his tests. Agreed with the Silverado EV. The bigger battery that charges faster is really the only thing that the lightning is missing.
You've got to take residual value into account. And as you know, batteries are very expensive to replace and the value of a nice truck with an out of warranty battery is lower than an ICE.
The battery warranty is 100k miles so I’m good there. This video is mainly about my actual cost in one year. Different vehicles depreciate differently and sometimes more or less one year to the next. Fords in general all take a big hit on depreciation. So I can’t count on having accurate up to date info on all of that. So I just use what my actual cost is. When it’s time to trade it in I can take that into account. But I plan to drive it as long as possible.
I have a question. I seem to not find the answer online. When you do the hands free, 1 does the truck slow down for with the car in front of you and 2 if so does it stop and go if you in crazy traffic hands. If not hands free, at least in Bluecruz. Love the vid thanks for the entertainment.
thanks for watching. Yes it does. What you are referring to is called adaptive cruise control. It will keep you behind the car and slow down and speed up during traffic. Mine also has blue cruise, which is the same thing as hands-free driving.
Yes - Bluecruise is fantastic and I just have version 1.0 (eagerly awaiting 1.3 which will do lane changes and add a “scootch over” in lane when there is a large vehicle to your left or right. I used Bluecruise a lot on our road trips and the best use is when you hit that stop and go traffic - takes so much stress out of it!
Edmunds did a great review of it:
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Yes the truck slows down and will come to a complete stop. When you are stop and go if you are stopped for only a few seconds it will move forward without resetting the cruise control. I use the hold brake option so I do not to keep my foot on the brake.
Mike, I have a 2023 lightning ER as well with less mileage, have you lost any range at 100%?
It doesn’t seem to have lost any range at all.
Beautiful truck
Thank you.
Mine been in shop for 29 days now, bad battery pack. Gonna get rid if it. Range in winter was terrible, too. Going back to the Powerboost I think. EV life not for me. More cons than pros
I’m sorry to hear that. I hope the power boost works out for you.
I own an 2015 Nissan Leaf EV. It has a battery health indicator as well as a state of charge indicator. The battery health indicated 12 bars when it was new but dropped off 1 bar around 38K miles (typical for most Leaf owners that I've researched). My range dropped about 10% (50 miles in winter, 60-65 summer time if I don't run the AC). Does the Lightning have a similar battery health indication? I'm thinking of buying a used Lightning next year as they more of them come on to used market at lower prices.
I haven’t seen a health indicator yet for the battery. But I haven’t noticed any degradation yet in it and I have 32,000 miles.
Does the HVAC and how it defaults to turn recirculation off and how it turns recirculation off after 5 minutes (when you just turned it on) not bug you? My cabin is constantly getting filled with other cars’ exhaust, cold outside air when I want it warm or hot outside air when I want it cold because the HVAC is always turning recirculation off. There is no getting around it because there is no manual mode, you have to turn the HVAC completely off.
I haven’t had that issue. Do you have a lariat trim like mine? Not sure if this will work for you but a lot of settings save with your seat settings. So you could for the fun of it while you are parked, try getting all of the ac settings the way that you want. Then push and hold #3 seat settings to save it. And see if that works.
@@F150LightningMike Yes, Lariat. I’ll try that. Do you ever use recirculation on the HVAC? Do you drive in areas where people have bad exhaust, so you would notice immediately that recirculation was off? I am constantly having to reset the recirculation, at least 3-5 times a trip. It’s super annoying.
One note, I think the pro and xlt with the smaller screen have a dedicated button, we have to click the hvac button then click the recirculation button. When driving it’s hard and distracting because it’s in two different places on two different screens.
I do turn it on in the morning on the way to work because Colorado Springs has a combination of exhaust and “skunk weed” smells all the time, but you know what might be happening too is that if you turn on the defrost if it’s cold and the window is fogging up defrost turns off recirculation even in ICE cars.
I love driving by gas stations and plugging in at home. In Washington state it costs me a nickel a mile to drive. It's very comfortable very fast and pulls my 25' boat like you wouldn't believe!
That’s awesome to hear about the towing. I haven’t towed yet, but it’s nice to hear someone having a good experience.
Thanks for the video Mike! I've been watching your videos for a while even though I've had a Lightening Lariet since June. Best truck ever hands down. I live near COS up in Park County and the Lightening takes the trip to the springs or Denver several times a month. The range is great. I'll mention it does fantastic in the mountains going up and down highway 24. It does excellent in the deep snows we have on unplowed roads, and is great when you set the depart times and the truck is nice and warm when it's 0 degrees outside. I travel 30 miles of dirt roads in my trips to and from the Springs, and it is very smooth on dirt and wash board roads. As compared to an ICE vehicle with 4 wheel drive, the Lightening is so much better in the ice, snow, and mud. I charge off the excess power from my solar panels so my charging power is free and I still sell several hundred kilowatts back to the grid each month. Saves huge amounts of money compared to gas trucks I've owned. These trucks are just the best. Thanks for the great content and reviews!
Thank you for watching. I guess we have twin trucks. Yeah I love driving on 24 too. I go up there quite a bit and back and forth to Denver as well, and have never felt limited on range. I love how it drives in the snow too, but the uneven wear on my tires made me a little concerned so I just got them changed out to Falken Wildpeak AT3w because they are supposed to be good in wet, ice and dry roads not just snow. I’m about to go record another video when it gets cold on Monday doing another cold weather test, but I agree I love it in cold and warm weather.
It seems like you’ve got a good set up with your solar. I don’t have solar yet, but I’m thinking about it. What company did you go with?
How does your truck have the sunroof, I see most online don’t
I have the extended battery pack. Part of the package when you get the larger battery for the 2023 lariat. It also comes with a sunroof.
My understanding is the heated steering wheel parts were not available when made so they made it a recall item… likely not Ford’s fault. More likely vendor couldn’t produce in time.
That’s exactly what happened. When I bought the truck there were a few things that they deleted because there weren’t enough modules. The heated steering wheel components were there. They just needed to add a module so they decided to do that after the fact, since now all the modules were available.
In Colorado you can also qualify for a commercial EV credit of up to $12K because of the weight.
Good point. I didn’t know the truck weighed enough for that. Is that just 2024 purchases?
@@F150LightningMike It was at least 23, I was having lunch with Governor Polis and that gem flew out of his mouth. The trade off is on my 1st set of tires, I needed 115 weight rated tires which Costco does not sell.
I had to get new tires too. Here’s a video about my new tires. Not sure if you saw it yet. That’s great you got to have lunch with the Governor.
Tire Issues with the Ford Lightning - It’s New Tire Day!
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Does the 2023 Lariat ER have a heat pump?
Nope. The heat pump is only on the 2024.
Really nice..
I have SOLAR so my "fuel" cost is basically 0 -zero....😂
I ALMOST NEVER drive long distance anymore and i don't have any need for the FULL cab but ill take it..
I wonder why they aren't offering a simple xtra cab version??
Also, how about ditch the sunroof and put a SOLAR panel up there to "charge as you drive" feature..??
I'm also curious about Used models..?
That’s awesome that you on the $0 cost.
Great questions. My understanding on the cab is that they need the length for the big battery.
I agree with you on the solar deal to help extend the range a little.
What are you curious about on the used models?
Used: how to know what I'm getting?
What's the "policy" life of batteries on Used models..
Does State/Federal Tax credits apply ONLY on NEW purchase or can I get one on Used as well..??
You can find some good deals on used ones, but I think it’s better still to get a new one because there are several dealers giving discounts.
So I would recommend finding a trim that you like that is under the $80 K federal guideline limit for MSRP.
Then find a dealer that is giving a good discount. Some of them are offering up to 15,000 off MSRP.
It’s just very important that you make sure that the MSRP not the discounted price is under 80 K if you want to get the federal tax discount.
Also, some dealers that are signed up with it through the IRS can give you that $7500 off in addition to their other discounts.
Interesting..
I'll see what happens...
Thanks...
Sounds good. Let me know if you get one.
It’s just crazy how cheap the gas is in the US. A F-150 with a gas engine would be extremely expensive to buy and run here in Sweden, Europe. Gas is about 9 dollars per gallon and the tax for a F-150 is around 3000 dollars per year. And the gasoline truck would cost about 100 000 dollars to buy new. It’s really a millionaire only vehicle here.
For an EV, 1 kWh costs about 10 cents and the tax for the all EV:s regardless of the model is 36 dollars. The F-150 Lightning however costs 150 000 dollars for the base model… 50 000 dollars more than the gasoline version.
You can buy 7 Toyota Corollas for one Lightning.
Thanks for watching. Those are some crazy prices in Sweden for sure. I guess I know where to take mine when I’m ready to sell it :-)
People don't understand how much time you actually save owning an EV (if you have charging at home). Day to day you don't have to go out of your way to fuel your vehicle. You don't have to leave work early to fuel up or spend an extra 10 minutes getting fuel before getting home to your family after work...Yes it takes longer to road trip but if you add up the time you save the rest of the year you either save time with an EV or break even...this is assuming home charging and that you don't road trip monthly. You also have to look at how long you actually spend just sitting in your while charging. As fast as most cars charge now you're usually done charging by the time you've gone into go to the bathroom and get food. My car is usually done before I'm ready to leave and I need the break after 2-3 hours on the road. I love EV road tripping and EV life in general.
Agreed … well said sir.
Does it have the gps map to show the supercharger locations on the trip ?
Yes there are a couple of different ways that it will show you where charging locations are, including if you have Apple Maps connected then you can turn a setting on in your Apple Maps show all the charging locations are and what charge percentage you will have whenever you get there.
@@F150LightningMike Can your F150 charge to Tesla supercharges ?
I’m still waiting on my adapter, but in the meantime, I can charge at eight Tesla supercharger that has a magic dock. And here’s a video of how well that worked:
Charging Ford Lightning at Tesla Supercharger
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@@F150LightningMike Thank you so much
You’re welcome.
Just a little over a year with nearly 26,000. I agree with everything you said. I will add that I tow my boat, a 17’ Boston Whaler at about 3,500 lbs. It is a fantastic tow vehicle for short to medium range towing. Boats have less wind resistance than campers so I don’t get too much of a range penalty; about 1.55 to 1.65 m/kWh. Towed 235 miles each way to Lake Chelan last Summer and only needed to charge one time coming back (stoped and charged three times going over as we did shopping and eating on the way as well as topped off charging for free at Rocky Reach Dam). With Ford Pro Trailer Backup and the great cameras unhitch and rehitch is a snap if you can’t find a pull through. I took my boat over and back across the Cascade Mountain Range and I couldn’t even feel the boat back there. Instant torque, effortless smooth acceleration for passing RV’s and better efficiency than I expected. Would I tow across the country with it? No, I wouldn’t but I will tow across my state and into neighboring Oregon any day of the week…
That is great to know. Yeah I was gonna be testing towing soon but really I just don’t have the need most of the time to tow since I can fit all my equipment inside my truck.
I also tow with mine (24' Yamaha at about 6500 lbs). I get about 170 miles fully loaded towing the boat through mountainous terrain. I love that I don't have to spin up the turbos to pass as I did in my many F-350s. Towing to Lake Powell from SLC requires one charge in the middle where we eat and bathroom break. I also tow other trailers and often work out of my truck. I am very happy with it. I bought it new in June 2022 and have about 16,000 miles so far.
That’s awesome. It really is great to hear positive things about the towing when you hear so much negative.
This weekend I will drive from Minneapolis to Fort Collins. 13 hours, 920 miles. ICE for the win and lack of drama. At home I’m a contractor pulling a 6000 pound trailer daily. There’s no way a Lightning could work for me. Last week my Ford dealership said they don’t even recommend towing with a Lightning and he also mentioned that a new battery is $45,000. The resale on Lightnings and most EVs will be horrendous. Having said that, I’m grateful for all of you early adopters.
Thanks for watching Duffy. You’re right it’s probably not the best in your situation doing a marathon trip, although people are saying they love towing with it as long as they don’t have to go more than 150 miles. Even then they don’t mind charging a little to go further if needed.
I don’t tow regularly with mine - but it’s fine for the occasional ATV trip or moving my lawn mower around. I wouldn’t use it for long distance towing with a big heavy trailer. That’s not why I bought it anyway. Love it for hauling my family around.
Agreed. My whole family loves it. The back seat is so roomy they don’t even fight over the front seat.
Check out the Out of Spec EV towing challenge of the Lightning, the Rivian, the Cyber Truck and the Silverado EV. As for using it to haul 6K locally, that wouldn't be a problem. The batteries will probably outlive a comparable engine and transmission. The ICEV may be the better choice for you, but it's not the slam dunk you think it is.
Well. If you’d feed your mom a salad you wouldn’t have to tow a 6000lb trailer and maybe a Lightning would “suit” your needs more.
Go Cowboys!
Yeah buddy! Jerry Jones needs to sell the team to end the curse so they can start winning again. :-)
Here’s a short I did about it when the cowboys lost in the playoffs.
Cowboys Lose Again! - The Curse of Jerry Jones is real!
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Compare the lightening with the Rivian R1t . Sorry buy the Rivian is a superior electric truck hands down
Not sure I agree except for the Rivian is faster, but I think it would be great to do a comparison video.
Just imagine if you had solar panels on your roof.
That’s true. That would be awesome to have it all for free. :-)
Cyber truck on the way.. what state are you in?
I’m in Colorado. Where are you?
Where can I get that shirt?
I should probably sell them, but for now you can go to this Amazon link and get them where I got them.
a.co/d/28NEIVD
Comparing leg room between the F150 and a Tesla is like comparing a yacht and a kayak. Like, yeah, no kidding there’s more leg room in the pick up. Come on, who doesn’t know that!
Good point. When I have the opportunity to test other electric pickups I will compare them to each other, but my point was the fact that I had a hard time fitting in the back seat of a Tesla. So it wasn’t just about no extra room. There was no room to sit in it without hurting myself.
@@F150LightningMike And the Lightning has more legroom than the Rivian or Cybertruck.
That’s what I need to test. And show on video which one has the most legroom. If y’all know anybody that has one.
I guess let me qualify if anybody has one in Colorado - cyber truck that is let me know so we can do a side-by-side test.
Can you use the Tesla superchargers yet? I was told that Ford and Tesla had worked out an agreement.
Yes you can on a limited basis. The Tesla app will say where you can charge a non-Tesla.
Here’s a video I did about it:
Charging Ford Lightning at Tesla Supercharger
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What about insurance?
Insurance isn’t much more than my bronco I had right before this.
Bro there’s a platnium lightning near me has 2,024 miles and they want 66k
Seems like a good price. Is it a 2022 or 2023?
@@F150LightningMike 2023… and there’s a standard range ford lariat lightning for 58k that one was a 2022
Yeah I would only get the extended range.
Prices are going to go back up here in a few months because of the reduced inventory.
@@F150LightningMike they keep doing “Foundation” cybertruck and I keep getting pushed back (I’m at the front of the line) I don’t want to spend 100k for a 72k truck… I’m leaning into getting a lightning (I ran into your video) just makes me want one more. But yeah thanks man, great video
Nice, even, to the facts. Eventually, we’ll get through to the naysayers. We built a 3.6 kW solar array to charge the lightning. (Checkout the build)That wouldn’t be enough for your level of miles, as it can only out back 20-30 miles per day in the winter. But we’re bumping the battery backup up to 20kW in a few months and we’ll be able to put back 50-60 miles per day which would be enough, on average to fill up a truck, driven the average number of miles, which is around $14k/year. That system should pay itself off in around 5 years at our current electric prices of $.17 per kW, which is also the national average. Who had a gas station in their back yard? We do. It also provides backup power to the house, even if we need to use the truck in a power outage.
Thanks for watching. It sounds like you are going to have a great setup. We are looking into solar too, but haven’t decided yet.
Please do a video when you go trade it in and it's not worth anything. 😂
You’re a funny guy, but yes I plan to do a video when it is time to trade it in.
Why trade it in? I thought all you internet trolls were keeping their cars for 30 years so they didn't have to deal with computers and overhead cams?
lol … I am planning to keep it as long as I can to test the battery life. So not sure when I will trade it in, but I have at least 5-10 more years out of it.
Um the f150 is best selling because of the back seat? Haha there are other manufacturers that offer a crew cab aren’t there? Also you kinda breeze over the fact that towing any real world weighted load is kinda impossible because of the terrible effect it has on the range? 😬
I don’t think he breezed over it - he simply said he has not needed to do it. I also mentioned in my write up that long-haul tows may not be as desirable as short range ones but I believe that for 90-95% of the actual use cases for the F-150s the fully electric would fit the bill.
That being said - I’m NOT for any government mandates - I think you need to buy what you need for what you do and YOU should make to choice. That’s the nice thing about Ford - they have a ton of options from BEV to Hybrid ICE to Diesel.
I also did not purchase to “save the planet” - I purchased it for the technology and the 0-60 in 3.8 seconds 😬. But I have to say, when I get into our other ICE vehicles now I can say that the exhaust smell is much more noticeable to me than before I started driving a BEV, and I prefer the BEV experience - but I have no issues with traditional ICE if they do what you need them to.
And the back seat is nice…😂
Thanks Kurt … I think I covered the towing enough since I haven’t towed. @lukelovell1055 if you’re planning to tow a lot just get a gas or diesel truck. No issues here from me. I say trucks are tools and just get the best one for your job.
As far as the back seat I wondered how long it would take someone to say something about my comment on that :-)
There always has to be that one guy 🙄
Take a look around next time you drive: How many half-ton trucks do you see towing anything? I've actually started to keep a casual count when I take longer drives. It's usually less than 10%, more often less than 5%.
@@mayordjq hey there is no reason to roll your eyes; I was polite enough I thought. I’m not trying to be a jerk for no reason. Just stating facts. But your comment is irrelevant. The towing ability is terrible whether people use half ton trucks a lot for towing or not. I’m not just one guy; there’s thousands of us. Look at the lightning sales numbers.
@@lukelovell1055 Settle down, dude. It's an emoji.
My comment is not irrelevant. The vast majority of half-ton trucks owners never tow. I've hady F150 2.7 Ecoboost for 3 years and 35k miles. I tow my 8x10 utility trailer maybe three times a year. I had a Tundra before the F150. I never towed with it.
Your comment is the one that's irrelevant. In almost every video that shows the Lightning in a positive light, someone has to chime in with "WhY dOn'T yOu ToW wItH iT aNd SeE wHaT hApPeNs!!".
Did you watch this video? Did you miss his comment that loading up the drunk & bed made no difference in range?
What’s the resale value, $100.00? FEVs and FJB. 🥶🔥🖕🇨🇳
I bet I could still get a few dollars for mine :-)
But I like it so much I wouldn’t want to sell it.
@@F150LightningMike Another EVangelist fool and his money. 💸💸💸💸💸💸💸💸
“EVangelist” … I’ve never heard that before that’s awesome.
I need this truck!!
Agreed. It is an awesome truck for sure!