Purchased a 2023 Lightning Lariat Extended Range this week in Arkansas. MSRP was pushing 80k, out the door price was 56k with all discounts and incentives. Haven't seen a better deal than that.
@@StannisTheMannis305, 3 months of misery dealing with dealers in 10 or more states. I more than likely won't buy from another legacy auto maker again if I don't have to. Tesla makes it so much easier.
What a great video , 1000 subscribers , you're so close . Count me in! Your video was way more informative than any big name channels i've seen to date!
Thank you, Dewill! Wow! That is one huge compliment. I'll endeavour to always provide value and as much good-natured fun along the way. Glad to have you along for the ride!
There you have it folks. READ THIS COMMENT! EV trucks are affordable if you hunt for the deals. Awesome to hear, and enjoy that sweeeet ride! Thank you for commenting!
Thanks for making this video!! I’m one of those Rivian owners, but would own a Lightning in a moment if I needed the larger bed and size. The R1T is my first EV and I agree on all your points. Most people will catch on eventually to how great these vehicles are to live with.
I'd love to have an R1T, but a) mine is a work truck and the Rivian would be so banged up in a week! ;-), b) I need the larger bed, and c) I'm too broke and cheap (hehe). Congrats on owning such an outstanding engineering masterpiece! What a vehicle. TRhank you so much for your comment!
Good video! Drove my 2022 Ford Mach-e to work today and passed another Lightning. Nice truck. Still too big for me. BUT - I just looked at the gas prices today. At $4.52 per gallon, it would have taken $117 for me to fill up my 2006 Chevy Avalanche, a truck I drove for 180,000 miles before selling it. As for a power outage, it was 2007 when I had the last outage at my house. Not so concerned with that. I think you need to address the average truck user - not everyone tows a 15,000 pound trailer every weekend. In fact, when I had the Avalanche, I only towed maybe 20 times in the 12 years I owned it.
Thank you for the comment! Exactly. 87% of truck owners never or rarely use their trucks for 'truck stuff'. Well said. I've mentioned that fact in my FUD video and others since it is so important. How are you enjoying the Mach-e? What do you consider it's shining lead over other evs, besides how cool it looks!
@@truckedupevs I love my Mach-e. I bought it in October 2022 and now have 27,000 miles. Zero issues. I also only have level one charging at home, but that hasn't been a problem. Friend gave me a level 2 charger when he went from a Hyundai Ioniq 5 to a Tesla Model S Plaid. I haven't installed the 240 volt plug yet. We'll be going on our next road trip from Los Angeles to Northern California in a few weeks. Should be good. Only thing I wish it had was sentry mode and dog mode like on the Tesla cars. I am loving the HOV lane access.
@@KaiPonte Thank you for this! I totally agree. Ford needs to do more with OTA, and sentry and pet modes are desperately needed at my home also. I love it that you get by no problem with Level 1! It goes to show how much absolute nonsense there is out there, when most people just aren't driving huge ranges. However, when you get the 240 installed, I suspect you're going to love it! Great insights!
My lightning platinum will power everything in my home for 4 days, and just the essentials for up to 10 days. I am just using a 30 amp generator receptical & 30 amp interlocked breaker. Granted, you can't turn everything on at the same time, but I do have 7200 watts 220 volts available, so it even powers my deep well water pump during a power outage. I seldom see any of these reviews discussing the capabilities of the onboard power inverters available on this vehicle. Besides the available 7200 watts in the trucks bed, there's another 2400 watts available in the frunk & cabs combined recepticals, giving you an available 9.6 kw of total power.
There you go, folks - right from firsthand experience! Thank you so much for your input and knowledge, and yes, it is not talked about enough! @@pstoneking3418
@@mannyman4103 I was told it had issues charging initially. Ford bought it back, replaced and reprogrammed a number of HV modules and controllers, and then re sold it. I was able to pick it up with ~10k miles for 30k off compared to MSRP
Awesome and agree with all your points. Only part I disagree with is the math used for calculating the savings between charging at home vs gas. You used the gas price average but used your special overnight/downtime electric pricing. You should had used the average of that as well. Although a small point, the savings still favor the electric truck.
You can choose to charge an EV only at night for a few hours, while you're sleeping, when rates are lowest. Electricity prices at home usually don't fluctuate up and down. Hence a set price. But yes, over time, electricity prices rise. Gas prices can fluctuate greatly. Daily, weekly, yearly and by the decade. And also from gas station to station on any particular day.
@@dvader3263 I understand all that. Its just a more apples to apples comparison to use the correct average. I have a plan where my weekend night are free, but i am not going to make a youtube video comparing the gas average across the state with my electricity rate and assume that is applicable to the general public. Although that would be really good clickbait lmao "GET AN EV AND NEVER PAY FOR CHARGING!?!?"
That's a really great point, and thanks for raising it. I keep forgetting that some folk charge throughout the day. I really appreciate the excellent feedback!
@@MasterBun4You Your logic seems to suggest that one should buy fuel across the street where it is more expensive in the name of fairness. With gas you usually go where it is cheaper, you don't find the average price and you don't have a choice but to buy them when you need them. With EV, you usually charge it when you are not using it, which is at night, which happens to be the time of the cheapest rate for electricity. So your logic is wrong.
I absolutely LOVE your content. Thank you for what you do. I just took delivery of my 2023 xlt. I live in MIssissippi and our charging network is TERRIBLE. That being said, my commute is about 2miles and I have a charger at both my house and business(offer free charging for customers). I received roughly 15,000 off msrp from my dealer mainly because they don’t sell in MS.
Wow! You just totally made my week. My wife says my head's pretty big already, but I'll take such an awesome confidence boost! THANK YOU! I can't believe all the amazing deals people have scored in the comments. I think this speaks so well for more adoption of these brilliant trucks.
Purchased a 22' Lariat ER with everything on it for 51k out the door, before any tax incentives. Great video, lots of good points, buyers will start catching on soon!
Had to subscribe!! your combination of Snark, Sarcasm and Self deprecation had me rolling on the floor. Then throw in the cogent arguments against the fear mongering of self described experts.... Yeah I'm coming back for more!
You just made me shoot my drink out my nose! LMAO! So glad someone out there appreciates my, ,uh...'special qualities'? Thanks for the sub, and for the AWESOME feedback!
Great video on the 10 reasons to own this vehicle as experienced by a real owner user. Who would know better? None other than an owner who lives with it everyday. Maybe not for all, who own a truck but at least know why or why not to have an EV based on real life experience. Thanks for this presentation of the real life use of the Ford F150 Lightning.
I picked up a 2023 XLT with the extended range battery for $51k USD out the door. Seems that the XLT with the ER battery was the most heavily discounted in this recent promo. I am really enjoying the truck so far, it's extremely fast and smooth to drive. I came from a 2019 RAM 1500 that I sold off separately.
That's an amazing deal. Even with the currency exchange between our two countries, you bought yours for the price I bought a standard range. That's outstanding! I truly hope you enjoy the ride. It's a fantastic truck.
@@truckedupevs I canceled my order and decided to wait to see how the market ends up and I'd say I'm pretty close to closing the deal. We are moving to an off-grid house in Mexico and the fuel will be free. I
@@michaelmackey754 I felt the same. It really stands up as a great work truck as well, as long as your towing distances don't require charging on the road (no pull through chargers where I live).
Great video. It’s always funny to hear Americans say EV’s don’t work in cold weather when you know the country with the highest percentage of EV’s is Norway, you know, the Arctic Circle Norway!
@@OccamsPlasmaGun That is correct. Canada is the second-largest country on Earth, and we cover a huge arctic section. Norway is colder in the summers but warmer in the winters - correct if using a sweeping brush of a generalist - so this too is a little skewed. Norway is shaped similarly to Japan in that it runs its greatest distance from north to south. saying Japan is warmer than, say, the Okanagan, would be true in some areas and completely wrong in others. Hokkaido has arctic-like temperatures while Okinawa is warmer than Hawaii. Northern inland Norway, near Karasjok, is colder than the prairies. Oslo in the south is much warmer. Basically, it's all splitting hairs. Norway is cold. Canada is cold. Both have warm regions, both have freakin' cold regions. EVs work well in both countries. Norway sells 90% of all new autos as evs. Canada, but even more so the US, has an ideological addiction rather than actual factual aversion to anything other than its own inefficient and damaging fossil fuel means of locomotion (which is even more ironic, being Norway made most of its wealth from fossil fuels) New ev architecture works much better than ev tech five years ago. If you have an older ev, it will suck more in the winter. If it's newer, it will suck less. ICE vehicles are insanely inefficient in the winter but they can extract 12,000watt/kg vs. 700watt/kg from the latest ev battery tech The newest tech going into batteries and heat pumps means that by 2025, they'll be comparable to ICE vehicles in range loss due to cold. Thanks for the comment!
You and me both. I cancelled my CT reservation but will watch and see what Tesla does over the next year. I also have a reservation on the Silverado EV. However, the F150, other than the irritating things I noted in my previous video, is such a great ride. Thanks for commenting and sharing your insight!
Two weeks ago, I picked up a 7 month old '23 extended-battery Lariat Lightning with only 10K miles for $54.5K. Great truck! In trade, they offered me $39K for my 2019 Trail Boss. The Lightning even included a really nice (probably $4k) color-matched ARE topper, which I would have added anyway. I was waiting on a Cybertruck, but this deal was too good to pass up, and I think the Lightning will actually work better for my needs. Especially once I get my Supercharger adapter! 🙂
What a great comment, and inspiring! Because of this, I'm going to do a camping trip with my wife and give you a video shortly. I've been across the province with no issues. I guess it depends on your country. Here in western Canada, not an issue. Even the tiniest villages have fast chargers (although not all of them are fast!). Many campgrounds also have Level 2 chargers so you can park and charge overnight while you camp. It just involves a bit more planning, but up until the 21st century, the same was required fro most camping trips involving gas and diesel if going remote. I think the fear has really limited ev adoption. It's my job from a trucked up dude perspective to dispel some of those myths :-). Stand by for some outdoor fun...! Keep the input coming!
@truckedupevs oh that's great! Thanks for responding and doing the trip! I really really want a truck but can't stand the thought of normal truck gas mileage that is so low. I'm in California and we like to camp the sierras. Problem is we also like to camp death valley where you can barely get gas so I guess we could rent a car for that. It is also extremely hot out there. Would an ev's battery overheat? For other areas, I shall research campground charging.
I just purchased an F150 Lightning on Vancouver Island (I live on Salt Spring Island). I feel so confident about this vehicle purchase! I have an added bonus as I live off the grid with solar panels, backup generator if I need it. So for most charging will cost me nothing. I repeat NOTHING!!!! I have been off the grind since 1988. Really liked this video, have subscribed. and I am so happy that I found your channel! 🇨🇦
I live in merritt bc . If i may ask what was your deal . I am looking for xlt extended battery pack. What would be a good price offer from a dealer in BC.
@@duttinster Sorry for the late reply, Rohit. I'm in the middle of moving my house. That's a tough question to answer. Unlike the US, Canada has far fewer XLTs around, and the extended range doesn't qualify for the ev incentives as far as I am aware (the threshold for both BC and federal incentives is $70,000). That's why I bought the standard range because it saved me $9000. Also, if you order a 2024 XLT from Ford or buy from the dealers, you can no longer get it in an extended range, only standard range, which means you have to bump up to the next higher trim to get the bigger battery in 2024, the Flash, which starts at $79,900 MSRP in Canada. That's still better than the XLT Extended Range in 2023, which came in at around $84K MSRP starting. I would try to get that number down at a dealership on the Flash, or I would buy a low mileage used 2023 XLT extended range (or even a 2022 because it had the bed weigh scales!), if I was buying again (which I might do in the near future and trade in my current XLT). I hope some of this is helpful. Thank you so much for watching and commenting!
I don’t care about saving the earth or politics. This truck is amazing. I have the lariat extended range. Best vehicle I’ve ever owned. Beyond fast smooth and quiet. I don’t tow crazy trailers or distances so it’s perfect. Go test drive one
Liked and subscribed. You got an "X" factor. I'm 24-years into editor/animator/producer as a profession and you got a few nice things going on here friend. Self deprecation, engaging, funny. My advice is the same I give to people with 100k subs, focus on editing. Watch what people doing what you want to do do on television, the amount of cuts, the amount of things they say. Film something, edit it, edit it some more, then rewrite the script and start over. Somehow deliver against your (planned) content calendar with all of that wheel spinning (this at least keeps you honest and producing!) Seriously friend, no matter what happens in life and with your channel know you had a little tiny something special that makes you naturally "good" at this. The rest is lady luck and amount of time invested (and, continue to be friendly and positive!). Best of luck and you also nailed your points and brought it across well, you know, since that probably matters to you too ;)
Holy smokes! You just made my week! Oh heck, my month! This comment means the world to me. A real gift. Thank you. I will certainly work to improve; and your advice is something I will focus on. And so glad to have you along for the ride!
I ordered one and had to wait over 9 months for delivery. I got a $7500 dealer incentive plus the $7500 tax credit. After 6 months of use I’m very satisfied. The only thing I’m not super impressed with are the infrequent OTAs. I got the standard range and it suits my driving needs perfectly. My Tesla adapter is scheduled for a June arrival.
Mine is a std. range too, and I use it as a daily work truck, no problem. I agree on the OTAs. If you watched mt vid about 10 things Ford botched on the Lightning, most owners agree that Ford needs to work on these things. Thanks for sharing your Lightning experience!
Car Edge did a price analysis on a new Platinum at $95k. Then did pricing of one with 500 miles, the value came down to $39k!!!!! That electric vehicle depreciation in this market is ridiculous. So buy used not new and let the first buyer take the negative equity.
Not sure if I can qualify for the Pro model in Canada, but it would be interesting to find out more about it. I do a lot of short distance towing for the farm (25-40 miles one way) at harvest time. Usually 5-6,000 lbs to the plant and back empty.
The Pro was not available in Canada until late 2023, and only in very limited numbers - and then the strike happened at the Ford factory and no production made it to Canada anyway. I had originally ordered one but was told I wouldn't be able to get mine until mid-2024, which didn't work at all. Both the federal and provincial sites in BC show it in their qualifying list, but only the standard range, which sounds like it would be absolutely perfect for your application. I think Ontario dumped theirs, but not sure. Nova Scotia still has a good provincial incentive, even more than BC I think. The Pro actually has a higher towing capacity than the XLT, I believe, and would make short work of 6000lbs. Ford also indicates it's available for order on the Ford.ca site. Let me know how it works out! Thanks for commenting!
Hi truck guy. Do you know if ford is really planning to add a range extender for existing customers? I think I saw one of your videos about that. But is this idea really happening? Thanks for your videos. Great information.
@@JG-er5us Not that I am aware of. I have been following many developments but Fird has yet to publicly come out with anything. It is one of the things that I have insisted is a needed product but will likely come from third-party providers now that Tesla is offering one for the Cybertruck. The problem is being able to hook them up directly to draw from while driving. Currently, one would have to use any range extender to charge the main battery by plugging it in through the CCS port, which makes it rather useless. All future EV trucks need to incorporate a direct auxiliary plug for such applications The Lightning battery packs are also modular, so it is technically possible that sometime in the future it might also be an option to 'update' one's battery pack with more range. I see this as more doubtful, but the range extender is a HUGE need for the ev truck space, without having to go to a series hybrid option, etc. I hope this helps.
Hi there. Do you know if ford is planning to add a range extender for existing customers? I think i saw one of your videos talking about that. But is this really happening? Thanks for your videos and the information you share with us.
I apologize, Jesus. I was certain I responded to this comment (maybe on another video?) I have referred to the need for a range extender in the form of a battery 'tidy tank', but outside of Tesla saying it's coming for the Cybertruck, we're all still waiting. The worst part is, it seems no one has bothered to add an auxiliary input plug to draw power from a secondary source. The only current option is to plug into the charging port, which one can't do while driving, leaving the only option to plug in from an range-extending source - and then waiting for it to charge the primary. Fingers crossed the industry catches up to the obvious demand for this. Thanks again for commenting!
I stopped by an area Chevy dealer today to talk about a Silverado EV WT for the farm. They have a sister Ford dealership right next door, so I took a Lightning out for a spin; I will say, it is the best Ford I have ever driven. Still, I am going to wait for the Silverado EV or Sierra EV (but, I do not think GMC is offering a Pro version of the Sierra EV, so Silverado it is.)
Quite a ride, isn't it? I have a reservation for the Silverado EV also. We'll see how the channel goes but the hope is to have one within the next year or two. I haven't been able to get my hands on a WT to drive here in Canada, but I have driven the Rivian and the Hummer. Ford, to date, has built the best all-around utility EV truck, but Chevy is going to give them a run for the money, I'm guessing. Thanks as always for the comments and insight, Kellie!
I am very much interested in a lightning. Would you please make a video on changing a tire? Do you need a special jack for the weight? I hope I won't have to take it to a tire shop or mechanic etc, every time I have a flat tire...
Unlike the Cybertruck, it comes with a full-size spare under the bed, and a centre feed through the back bumper to lower it with a provided crank handle. It comes with a factory scissor jack and it is easy-peasie as far as replacing it. Lots of videos out there already on this. Here's one to check out: ruclips.net/video/C963n09bjpk/видео.htmlsi=zWWR9481e8tQXNo I hope this helps! Thank you so much for your comment, and good insight for potential buyers to know!
Yes! So excited. Ford has indicated that due to demand I might be waiting a bit, but I got a notice last week that it is in production, so I expect it soon. Can't wait to take it for a long-distance test drive!
@@truckedupevs Then you'll need to revise this list. I don't know where you'll place, "And now it has access to the largest, most reliable charging network on the planet." Even up in Canada this should be huge. Or perhaps it might be even more important up there in the Great White North. I can only imagine your version of Electrify America is even worse up there in the cold. As hard as that is to imagine.
Haha! You gave me a good laugh! Yes! They call it Electrify Canada here, and unless one can electrify an entire nation that boasts the 2nd largest land mass on the planet with a total of 12 charging stations, then uh...yeah, no. We could tie some caribou to a treadmill and some alternators and outperform their charging network on a regular basis (especially if you feed the reindeer Newfy Screech - look it up...it's a delicacy ;-) ). Tesla's network is absolutely brilliant in Canada. You can take any major route and never worry about charging, I can't wait - and yes, I should have included that as, like, Number #1! Terrible brain-fart on my end. Thanks for bringing this up! @@Paul-cj1wb
@@truckedupevs LOL. You need to move to Hollywood. Or at least to Toronto. As for the list -- that's why they have post prod editing. :) Unless you want to redo a whole updated video after you try out the adapter. And by the way, there are 3rd party adapters out there already. Not saying you should do anything that might cause any damage to a very pricey item such as an EV truck. But at least watch the videos of others trying them out and make an informed decision if Ford takes too long.
I agree, the Lightning is an amazing ride!! It has limitations. But every drive is amazing!! I did disable the backup sensor. And have extra PV power and so I pay nothing for power.
I just purchased a 2022 Platinum lightning extended range for $49,000. It did have 50,000 mi on it and it was used as a work truck so there were some holes in the bed for a toolbox. It works great. Couldn't be happier!
Ford really nailed it with this truck. Also, with that incredibly long battery warranty, you're still covered on the used one. You also benefitted because in 2023, they removed some features like bed weigh scales due to chip shortages. Sounds like you scored! Thanks for sharing your experience!
At one time I was very against the EV push. Then one day I brought my wife into ford to test drive a few vehicles. Reluctantly she decided to just humor herself, and test drive a Lightning. 2 hours later we drove off with an Avalanche color 2023 XLT, and parked in the garage. Two months later, putting many miles on her truck, and ignoring my beloved Diesel, I again took a short trip over to Ford. 2 hours later my Diesel became property of Fords used inventory, and I headed home with my second 2023 XLT lightning, parking my beautiful Silver color right next to my wife’s avalanche colored XLT. Moral of the story, don’t knock it until you try it. Should it be our only option? I’ll still say no. But is it an awesome option to get? YES IT IS! I love our Lightnings.
What a fantastic story! You just made my morning! I also really appreciate you state that this might not be for everyone. The best thing one can do is go take one for a spin or, better yet, rent one for a few days. It's a difficult thing to park back on the lot if one finds it fills every need. :-) Thank you so much for sharing your 'twin' Lightning journey!
If you could strap a gen on the back and charge while driving then you would have the cat by the tail. I like the idea but sometimes I have to drive very long distance with not much around. Gas can make it, EV can't, and I can put a can of gas in the back if I am worried about it. I think Ram is going to do something like that, use a V6 to run a gen to keep going. That might be a really good idea but just any gen in the back helping you get there would be good.
Exactly, Richard. The other option is the electric 'tidy tanks' that are already approaching the market but the vehicles for either option need to catch up by having a direct feed aux. outlet. Yeah, a gas gen would do the same if it had a direct feed. If you have to go deep into the bush like in our neck of the woods, a combo setup would be sweeeeet! Thank you so much for the great comment! (BTW, check out my newest vid on next gen trucks where I talk about this stuff, or my Ramcharger vid on the series hybrid you mention - I have some concerns on that one...). Keep in touch!
My insurance cost? I noticed about a 40% increase in my rate, but I went from an older, used truck to a new one. I also took out more comprehensive coverage. So, all things being equal, it wasn't anywhere near as high as all the doomsayers had forecast, in my opinion. That would make a great video! Thank you for your comment!
Great video. I just picked up my very discounted Lightning Lariat standard range for $64000. Charge cost during regular hours including hydro delivery fee is about 12 cents kWh. That means I can run my truck (which is amazing fast and smooth) for about 25 bucks a month 800km per month. And we have off peak rates here as low as 3-4 cents per kWh delivery included in Ontario during overnight. I’m laughing all the way to the bank and having a ton of fun doing it!!! I had a gas ford expedition then went to a Chevy volt (great car!) and finally back to a full size vehicle for insanely cheap!!!! Loving it!!
Another great video. You deserve way more subscribers. I believe you will get there. I just bought a pristine 23 XLT standard range with only 2k miles from the dealership for only 43k so there are some amazing deals out there. I don’t qualify for the tax rebate so I was happy to find a good used option. Pulled a 12,000lb trailer on the first day and I barely noticed it. Keep up the good work!
Thank you so much for supporting the channel. It means a LOT to get positive comments like this. Nice score! Holy smokes, that's an incredible price. I'm envious! Enjoy the new wheels!
Literally just picked up a lightning lariat with $16,000 in rebates from the dealer not included the $7500 ev tax credit i take advantage of next tax filing
Living in Norway there are allot of benifits to EV’s. Dont pay for toll stations, cheaper parking in cities, sometimes in the sunner when electricity is cheap you actually get payed to charge your car. and driving is a EV is a fraction of the price of Diesel. I will be saving USD 4k a year end this does not include service charges.
Wow! Great comment. I actually had no idea about the aftermath of such events in Florida ( being that I live in an igloo, break the ice in June and take my seal-skin kayak out and hunt walruses in the Great White Canadian North ;-) ). Seriously, that's important for people to consider yet again. Our Lightning has already proved its worth in the remote mountains where we live, where power outages happen somewhat frequently. Thank you for the insight!
Thank you so much! This kind of feedback means a lot to me, Josh. Yep. Even the repurchase rate is outstanding. According to the Canadian Auto Association (CAA) here in Canada, over 97% of ev owners say their next vehicle will be another ev. That says everything!
My concern is trade in value. I am lucky to keep a vehicle two years and that’s stretching it. I just get bored with them. I need a vehicle that has very good trade in value.
I can appreciate the concern (no pun intended :-) ). I am fortunate in that I am in Canada, and I could easily sell mine close to what I bought it for since there are not many XLT trims around. Rivian are insanely scarce, Cybertrucks and Hummers don't even ship to Canada yet, so there is a LOT of pent-up demand. However, the same was the case for EV trucks when they first rolled out in the US, but the tide has shifted in sentiment, but let's see how that plays out over the next year. It is a really valid concern for someone who constantly changes up their vehicle. Thank you for the comment! Good food for thought.
The federal tax credit is up to $7500. I only paid $3700 in federal taxes, so I was limited to that amount. However, if you paid $7500 or more in federal taxes the year you purchased your lightning, then you would get $7500 back.
If you have time to waste, buy an electric truck, they are awful in most situations. If you use a truck as a truck. In the US, in most states, Ford can't give them away. Northern VA dealer near my house has at least 30 F-150 Lightning sitting behind ICE and Diesel models that are selling. Driving from VA to GA with a 10K trailer, the lightning had to be charged 14 times. My ICE truck did the same in 2 Fill-ups with miles to spare. My friend spent more on fast charging than I did on gas. When I have time to waste perhaps when I retire, I will try one.
@@dennisknehans3206 Sorry, you feel that way. I provided actual facts. The Ford dealership near my location will not accept any more lightning pickups from Ford, they have too many already on the lot. One customer I talked with indicated that the lighting truck they were interested in was completely dead, perhaps sitting too long. The couple smartly left the dealership without a purchase. In addition. Ford has almost stopped production of the Lightning pickup, and production may completely end by December 2024, The salesman indicated customers simply do not want a Ford Lightning. 90 miles with a full charge pulling or hauling a load is horrendous. I can't save any money if I have to keep charging every hour and a half.
10 - it's cheaper 9 - full "tank" every morning 8 - gas price go up (electricity is significantly more expensive than $.08/kwh in most of the US) 7 - power your house during an outage. very nice! less likely every year. 6 - stick out a long traffic jam? 5 - like & subscribe, and then - heat pump coming 2024, very nice, improving winter range 4 - f150 lightning is 5 star rated by the NHTSA 3 - truck is very comfortable (can confirm) 2 - frunk is really cool 1 - "it just feels good, bro, trust me"
It also doesn't include wind resistance, my bad driving habits, and the fact that I failed math - but all things being equal, that adjustment doesn't change the whopping spread in savings between gas and electrons. Feel free to adjust the several cents per charge :-). Seriously though, thank you for pointing this out.
Lightning XLT extended $74,000 msrp!!! Yikes!!! Not what i was willing to part with. Gave up on Lightning after watching them in vids for months. But in March 2024 a dealership here in Mass adverrtised 3 rebates of $7500 each!!! What? I went down next day for test drive..... and made the deal. Thats right....over $21,000 off!!!! VERY pleased thus far after 3000 miles. Except for turn radius lol. Got the Lectron Tesla adaptor and I dont experience range anxiety any more. Unfortunately we have high electric rates on cape cod....31 cents kwh. but even that puts me, at minimum, MINIMUM... DOUBLE the milles per dollar that an ice truck would get. Double? Yup! I estimate the fuel savings to be about 15 grand over the course of ten yrs..... $1500/yr !!! I dont tow so no big deal. Its really a case by case basis. Got to do your homework and society got to do better on charging infrastructure.
Congratulations! That's a great story! Yeah, the prices were just stupid, and then things cooled, and thank goodness. I am now seeing these things everywhere - and often pulling camping trailers (being I live in the Canadian mountains). They can;t to w as far, of course, but where most people are camping out here have 30 or 50-amp plugs at the campsites! Like you, I have saved so much money since going to an electric truck. Now that we've moved, the plan is to eventually go solar on the new house and drive for free. We'll see how that goes :-). Thank you so much for the comment. Keep 'em comin'!
Funny how I came across your video at this time in my life. I am in the market for a new vehicle, having gone almost 2 years without one, and I was just looking at the F-150 Lightning this morning. I know I want an electric truck even to the point of having a deposit on a Canoo ( not out and may never come out) and a Ram Rev ( not due out until late 4th quarter), I v'e seriously leaned into the R1T as well but just can't justify the money. I used to have 2 F-150's and for some reason went to Dodge. I am going to go look at the Lightning after watching your video as I just don't think I could pass it up after hearing from some absolutely dry sense of humor Canadian, What could go wrong with that scenario unless you are are a Trudeau supporter. I doubt this as you did make the funny Biden comment, very subtly, but I heard it and for that you won my vote for Canadian of the year. I would offer to give you Biden but you have a Trudeau and that does not seem fair to punish a country that gave us Hockey (eh) :-) Love the video and I did subscribe. I wish you all the best and I 'll inform you as to my decision in the very near future.
OMG! Comments like this make me want to work twice as hard on my videos! Thank you so much for sharing your experience - and YES, please let me know what you decide! So excited for you!
Hmmm...didn't Ford have some Lightening trucks catch fire in their production parking lot awhile back? Oh yeah. There goes your electric truck AND your house!
And in the same period, didn't several hundred gas vehicles catch fire and burn down houses - but anti-EV, pro oil & gas pundits are not fans of actual facts because that doesn't fit their narrative? It's simple math. I hav enow mentioned this glaring oversight in three videos. Maybe watch my FUD video. I go over this same, old trope - over, and over, and over ad nauseum on a regular basis...
And the oil companies are buying stock in electric companies as you speak! And everyone is going to get a significant price increase in electric bills! Why? Because the infrastructure has to be built!! Fuel prices will begin to drop, while electric will rise. Common sense here!
Nice video, however you along with all other videos never address the people who rent an apartment in a complex who have no interest in installing chargers. Your time and energy is wasted finding chargers that are accessible and operating. Charging time comes no where near a traditional fill up. Until this is addressed, ev’s will always fall short.
Great post, Rob. Actually, I have addressed that very issue in several of my videos. I agree with you. In many scenarios for many urban folk, evs don't yet make sense until this hurdle is overcome. Thank you for bringing this to light in the comments. It's an important point that should not be overlooked.
@@truckedupevs thanks!! Again i want ev’s to be an option for everyone, myself included. There are several vehicles i am interested in. I sincerely hope the technology in batteries and charging makes major advances to capitalize on the vehicles that are able to be created.
Not a "bad truck" overall but a few big problems with it. (1) Lower range (320 mile range is very disappointing too low a range to tow anything big far distances over 100 miles esp in the Winter months) (2) No super fast 350kwh charging capability (unlike GM variants) (3) No 4 wheel steering (4) No midgate configuration ability. (Unlike GM variants)
Yup. I applied for the BC $4K, and the federal was automatic at the dealership, so yes $9K. Keep in mind this is to the $70K max, so the XLT and the Pro are the only two trims that qualify. My order was for the Pro, but it took too long as far as waiting for my order, so I tracked down an XLT. I hope thid helps. Thanks for your comment!
OR...they're 'faked' fake comments created by real people pretending to be bots to create REAL comments that are actually faked to be fake. OR they're bots created by bots to fake being fake by faking fake bots... But the likelihood is that I'm completely out to lunch, or faking to be... but that's extremely unlikely. :-)
Was about to hit suvbscribe, a little fun is good but seens soem of your dialog seems to be inspired by the series Psyche. Drop it, your good but the wierd dialog is frustrating.
@@truckedupevsI find the comment useful because it's true. There's enough evidence of EVs being disposable junk (especially since it's a Ford) without having to provide citation.
I appreciate not wanting a particular vehicle based on your needs, but to assign politics to an EV truck is like saying, "one of those Biden I-phones" or "those Deep State Nixon fax machines". It's just funny - and sounds foolish. Maybe ask some of the good folk on this page who own Lightnings if politics played a part when buying their truck. You obviously made some big false assumptions about my political affiliation, which - by the way - WON'T ever be mentioned on this channel. Oh, and last note on the Kerry comment, which, being Canadian I can only partially fathom: Were you aware that Ford was working on the Lightning's development while Trump was still in office back in 2018? Like I said, funny - and foolish.
@truckedupevs Good point. You can keep your Bidenmobile. Maybe you should ask Ford why they aren't selling if they're so amazing. I see folks sitting in them at the local charging station with cobwebs growing on them. Yea...I want some of THAT. But IM the foolish one. Yea...OK! 😆 🤣 😂
@@truckedupevs...and really, should you be throwing stones at ANYONE with a dictator like Trudeau taking away more of your rights every day?? That's why you're being forced into these crappy EVs in the first place.
Purchased a 2023 Lightning Lariat Extended Range this week in Arkansas. MSRP was pushing 80k, out the door price was 56k with all discounts and incentives. Haven't seen a better deal than that.
Wow! That's one of the best I've heard of! Nicely done!
Wow, sign me up for that deal.
How’d you pull that off?
@@StannisTheMannis305, 3 months of misery dealing with dealers in 10 or more states. I more than likely won't buy from another legacy auto maker again if I don't have to. Tesla makes it so much easier.
Was that OTD with EV rebate?
What a great video , 1000 subscribers , you're so close . Count me in! Your video was way more informative than any big name channels i've seen to date!
Thank you, Dewill! Wow! That is one huge compliment. I'll endeavour to always provide value and as much good-natured fun along the way. Glad to have you along for the ride!
Love my 23 F150 Lightning Lariat ER. It was cheaper ($59,650) and way more options than its ICE counterpart. No regrets!!!! Amazing truck!
There you have it folks.
READ THIS COMMENT! EV trucks are affordable if you hunt for the deals.
Awesome to hear, and enjoy that sweeeet ride!
Thank you for commenting!
I got 17k off the 79k sticker. Truck is beyond amazing. I’ll never go back to ice…
Dealers are dealing in Texas also. Definitely a good time to look at’23 models now.
New Subscriber! nice video! great information and love the humour! Love my 2023 Lightning for all the reasons you mentioned!
Thank you so much! Happy to have you along for the ride!
Thanks for making this video!! I’m one of those Rivian owners, but would own a Lightning in a moment if I needed the larger bed and size. The R1T is my first EV and I agree on all your points. Most people will catch on eventually to how great these vehicles are to live with.
I'd love to have an R1T, but a) mine is a work truck and the Rivian would be so banged up in a week! ;-), b) I need the larger bed, and c) I'm too broke and cheap (hehe). Congrats on owning such an outstanding engineering masterpiece! What a vehicle.
TRhank you so much for your comment!
I picked one up and love it! Kyle from Out of Spec reviews, after doing over 1000 miles in a lightning, now considers it the best road tripping EV!
Yeah, Sandy Munro has said the same thing. Excellent point. Thanks for the comment!
Congrats on getting your truck as well!
Good video! Drove my 2022 Ford Mach-e to work today and passed another Lightning. Nice truck. Still too big for me. BUT - I just looked at the gas prices today. At $4.52 per gallon, it would have taken $117 for me to fill up my 2006 Chevy Avalanche, a truck I drove
for 180,000 miles before selling it. As for a power outage, it was 2007 when I had the last outage at my house. Not so concerned with
that. I think you need to address the average truck user - not everyone tows a 15,000 pound trailer every weekend. In fact, when I had the Avalanche, I only towed maybe 20 times in the 12 years I owned it.
Thank you for the comment! Exactly. 87% of truck owners never or rarely use their trucks for 'truck stuff'. Well said. I've mentioned that fact in my FUD video and others since it is so important.
How are you enjoying the Mach-e? What do you consider it's shining lead over other evs, besides how cool it looks!
@@truckedupevs I love my Mach-e. I bought it in October 2022 and now have 27,000 miles. Zero issues. I also only have level one charging at home, but that hasn't been a problem. Friend gave me a level 2 charger when he went from a Hyundai Ioniq 5 to a Tesla Model S Plaid. I haven't installed the 240 volt plug yet. We'll be going on our next road trip from Los Angeles to Northern California in a few weeks. Should be good. Only thing I wish it had was sentry mode and dog mode like on the Tesla cars. I am loving the HOV lane access.
@@KaiPonte Thank you for this! I totally agree. Ford needs to do more with OTA, and sentry and pet modes are desperately needed at my home also.
I love it that you get by no problem with Level 1! It goes to show how much absolute nonsense there is out there, when most people just aren't driving huge ranges. However, when you get the 240 installed, I suspect you're going to love it!
Great insights!
My lightning platinum will power everything in my home for 4 days, and just the essentials for up to 10 days. I am just using a 30 amp generator receptical & 30 amp interlocked breaker. Granted, you can't turn everything on at the same time, but I do have 7200 watts 220 volts available, so it even powers my deep well water pump during a power outage. I seldom see any of these reviews discussing the capabilities of the onboard power inverters available on this vehicle. Besides the available 7200 watts in the trucks bed, there's another 2400 watts available in the frunk & cabs combined recepticals, giving you an available 9.6 kw of total power.
There you go, folks - right from firsthand experience!
Thank you so much for your input and knowledge, and yes, it is not talked about enough!
@@pstoneking3418
Love my lightning as well. Best vehicle and financial decision I ever made.
You & me both!
Bought a used factory buyback Lariat ER and have been loving it so far
What was the reason for the buyback?
@@mannyman4103 I was told it had issues charging initially. Ford bought it back, replaced and reprogrammed a number of HV modules and controllers, and then re sold it.
I was able to pick it up with ~10k miles for 30k off compared to MSRP
That's the way to do it. Nicely done. Thanks for the feedback!
@@tylermason3741 Awesome! Good for you man. Enjoy it!
How would someone find that kind of vehicle?
Awesome and agree with all your points. Only part I disagree with is the math used for calculating the savings between charging at home vs gas. You used the gas price average but used your special overnight/downtime electric pricing. You should had used the average of that as well. Although a small point, the savings still favor the electric truck.
You can choose to charge an EV only at night for a few hours, while you're sleeping, when rates are lowest.
Electricity prices at home usually don't fluctuate up and down. Hence a set price. But yes, over time, electricity prices rise.
Gas prices can fluctuate greatly. Daily, weekly, yearly and by the decade. And also from gas station to station on any particular day.
@@dvader3263 I understand all that. Its just a more apples to apples comparison to use the correct average. I have a plan where my weekend night are free, but i am not going to make a youtube video comparing the gas average across the state with my electricity rate and assume that is applicable to the general public. Although that would be really good clickbait lmao "GET AN EV AND NEVER PAY FOR CHARGING!?!?"
That's a really great point, and thanks for raising it. I keep forgetting that some folk charge throughout the day. I really appreciate the excellent feedback!
@@truckedupevs not even that but not all electricity plans are the same. Some are the same rate regardless of time of day
@@MasterBun4You Your logic seems to suggest that one should buy fuel across the street where it is more expensive in the name of fairness. With gas you usually go where it is cheaper, you don't find the average price and you don't have a choice but to buy them when you need them. With EV, you usually charge it when you are not using it, which is at night, which happens to be the time of the cheapest rate for electricity. So your logic is wrong.
Subscribed happy to have found this channel
Welcome to the club of awesome viewers! Thank you so much!
1st time viewer of your channel. Great job. Ty
Welcome! So glad you are enjoying the channel!
I absolutely LOVE your content. Thank you for what you do. I just took delivery of my 2023 xlt. I live in MIssissippi and our charging network is TERRIBLE. That being said, my commute is about 2miles and I have a charger at both my house and business(offer free charging for customers). I received roughly 15,000 off msrp from my dealer mainly because they don’t sell in MS.
Wow! You just totally made my week. My wife says my head's pretty big already, but I'll take such an awesome confidence boost! THANK YOU!
I can't believe all the amazing deals people have scored in the comments. I think this speaks so well for more adoption of these brilliant trucks.
Purchased a 22' Lariat ER with everything on it for 51k out the door, before any tax incentives. Great video, lots of good points, buyers will start catching on soon!
Very nice!
Thank you so much for the supportive feedback. It means the world to me!
Had to subscribe!! your combination of Snark, Sarcasm and Self deprecation had me rolling on the floor. Then throw in the cogent arguments against the fear mongering of self described experts.... Yeah I'm coming back for more!
You just made me shoot my drink out my nose! LMAO! So glad someone out there appreciates my, ,uh...'special qualities'?
Thanks for the sub, and for the AWESOME feedback!
Great video on the 10 reasons to own this vehicle as experienced by a real owner user. Who would know better? None other than an owner who lives with it everyday. Maybe not for all, who own a truck but at least know why or why not to have an EV based on real life experience. Thanks for this presentation of the real life use of the Ford F150 Lightning.
Thank you for this wonderful comment! It makes researching and creating my videos even more enjoyable!
I picked up a 2023 XLT with the extended range battery for $51k USD out the door. Seems that the XLT with the ER battery was the most heavily discounted in this recent promo. I am really enjoying the truck so far, it's extremely fast and smooth to drive. I came from a 2019 RAM 1500 that I sold off separately.
That's an amazing deal. Even with the currency exchange between our two countries, you bought yours for the price I bought a standard range. That's outstanding!
I truly hope you enjoy the ride. It's a fantastic truck.
The area I live in Missouri I have found lightning lariats extended for as low $49,000.
Which dealership?
Wow! That's fantastic! So much for the 'spoiled rich man's truck' narrative we keep hearing. Thanks for the insight! Viewers will love this data.
@@truckedupevs I canceled my order and decided to wait to see how the market ends up and I'd say I'm pretty close to closing the deal. We are moving to an off-grid house in Mexico and the fuel will be free. I
I just got my 2023 xlt lightning standard range 57,000 0% interest for 60 months I put 200 miles already on the truck and absolutely love it
Sweeet! Thanks for sharing the update! What are you enjoying the most?
@@truckedupevs how fast the truck is and how comfortable the seats are and how smooth the ride is!
@@michaelmackey754 I felt the same. It really stands up as a great work truck as well, as long as your towing distances don't require charging on the road (no pull through chargers where I live).
fantastic video got my lighting 2 weeks ago and it is like driving a lambo hiding in a trucks body
Haha! Exactly! Well said, and congratulations!
Newly subscribed, loving the channel so far as a previous ranger/f150 now model y driver from Canada too. Keep up the great work!
Welcome aboard, and thank you so much! I just went and checked you out, neighbour, and did the same!
What year was your Ranger? Great little trucks.
2008 Sport package with the 3 litre. Great little truck but terrible mileage. Thanks!
Me: 2007 with the 4-litre and same pkg. VERY bad mileage 🙂@@yourelectricneighbour3633
Great video. It’s always funny to hear Americans say EV’s don’t work in cold weather when you know the country with the highest percentage of EV’s is Norway, you know, the Arctic Circle Norway!
Hahaha! Tell me about it!
To be fair, the prairies get a LOT colder than Norway.
@@OccamsPlasmaGun That is correct. Canada is the second-largest country on Earth, and we cover a huge arctic section. Norway is colder in the summers but warmer in the winters - correct if using a sweeping brush of a generalist - so this too is a little skewed.
Norway is shaped similarly to Japan in that it runs its greatest distance from north to south. saying Japan is warmer than, say, the Okanagan, would be true in some areas and completely wrong in others. Hokkaido has arctic-like temperatures while Okinawa is warmer than Hawaii.
Northern inland Norway, near Karasjok, is colder than the prairies. Oslo in the south is much warmer.
Basically, it's all splitting hairs. Norway is cold. Canada is cold. Both have warm regions, both have freakin' cold regions. EVs work well in both countries. Norway sells 90% of all new autos as evs. Canada, but even more so the US, has an ideological addiction rather than actual factual aversion to anything other than its own inefficient and damaging fossil fuel means of locomotion (which is even more ironic, being Norway made most of its wealth from fossil fuels)
New ev architecture works much better than ev tech five years ago. If you have an older ev, it will suck more in the winter. If it's newer, it will suck less. ICE vehicles are insanely inefficient in the winter but they can extract 12,000watt/kg vs. 700watt/kg from the latest ev battery tech
The newest tech going into batteries and heat pumps means that by 2025, they'll be comparable to ICE vehicles in range loss due to cold.
Thanks for the comment!
I reserved Cybertruck and a Rivian back in 2019. I ended up buying a 2023 Lightning. Love it. Although I may own a Cybertruck in a year or two.
You and me both. I cancelled my CT reservation but will watch and see what Tesla does over the next year. I also have a reservation on the Silverado EV. However, the F150, other than the irritating things I noted in my previous video, is such a great ride.
Thanks for commenting and sharing your insight!
LOL...great info and very entertaining!
Thanks Lewis! So glad you enjoyed it!
Two weeks ago, I picked up a 7 month old '23 extended-battery Lariat Lightning with only 10K miles for $54.5K. Great truck! In trade, they offered me $39K for my 2019 Trail Boss. The Lightning even included a really nice (probably $4k) color-matched ARE topper, which I would have added anyway. I was waiting on a Cybertruck, but this deal was too good to pass up, and I think the Lightning will actually work better for my needs. Especially once I get my Supercharger adapter! 🙂
Thanks for sharing! Nice score. What a deal!
My husband and i want one of these but we want to go camping and see concerned about charging on the road. Have you Raheem it on any like adventures?
What a great comment, and inspiring!
Because of this, I'm going to do a camping trip with my wife and give you a video shortly. I've been across the province with no issues. I guess it depends on your country. Here in western Canada, not an issue. Even the tiniest villages have fast chargers (although not all of them are fast!). Many campgrounds also have Level 2 chargers so you can park and charge overnight while you camp.
It just involves a bit more planning, but up until the 21st century, the same was required fro most camping trips involving gas and diesel if going remote.
I think the fear has really limited ev adoption. It's my job from a trucked up dude perspective to dispel some of those myths :-).
Stand by for some outdoor fun...!
Keep the input coming!
@truckedupevs oh that's great! Thanks for responding and doing the trip! I really really want a truck but can't stand the thought of normal truck gas mileage that is so low. I'm in California and we like to camp the sierras. Problem is we also like to camp death valley where you can barely get gas so I guess we could rent a car for that. It is also extremely hot out there. Would an ev's battery overheat? For other areas, I shall research campground charging.
I just purchased an F150 Lightning on Vancouver Island (I live on Salt Spring Island). I feel so confident about this vehicle purchase! I have an added bonus as I live off the grid with solar panels, backup generator if I need it. So for most charging will cost me nothing. I repeat NOTHING!!!! I have been off the grind since 1988. Really liked this video, have subscribed. and I am so happy that I found your channel! 🇨🇦
Thank you so much! Enjoy the free ride! That's the right way to do it. My future plans are very similar. Keep the comments comin'!
I live in merritt bc . If i may ask what was your deal . I am looking for xlt extended battery pack. What would be a good price offer from a dealer in BC.
@@duttinster Sorry for the late reply, Rohit. I'm in the middle of moving my house.
That's a tough question to answer. Unlike the US, Canada has far fewer XLTs around, and the extended range doesn't qualify for the ev incentives as far as I am aware (the threshold for both BC and federal incentives is $70,000). That's why I bought the standard range because it saved me $9000.
Also, if you order a 2024 XLT from Ford or buy from the dealers, you can no longer get it in an extended range, only standard range, which means you have to bump up to the next higher trim to get the bigger battery in 2024, the Flash, which starts at $79,900 MSRP in Canada. That's still better than the XLT Extended Range in 2023, which came in at around $84K MSRP starting.
I would try to get that number down at a dealership on the Flash, or I would buy a low mileage used 2023 XLT extended range (or even a 2022 because it had the bed weigh scales!), if I was buying again (which I might do in the near future and trade in my current XLT).
I hope some of this is helpful.
Thank you so much for watching and commenting!
I don’t care about saving the earth or politics. This truck is amazing. I have the lariat extended range. Best vehicle I’ve ever owned. Beyond fast smooth and quiet. I don’t tow crazy trailers or distances so it’s perfect. Go test drive one
My sentiments exactly. Thanks for the comment, and enjoy that sweeeeet ride!
Liked and subscribed. You got an "X" factor. I'm 24-years into editor/animator/producer as a profession and you got a few nice things going on here friend. Self deprecation, engaging, funny. My advice is the same I give to people with 100k subs, focus on editing. Watch what people doing what you want to do do on television, the amount of cuts, the amount of things they say. Film something, edit it, edit it some more, then rewrite the script and start over. Somehow deliver against your (planned) content calendar with all of that wheel spinning (this at least keeps you honest and producing!)
Seriously friend, no matter what happens in life and with your channel know you had a little tiny something special that makes you naturally "good" at this. The rest is lady luck and amount of time invested (and, continue to be friendly and positive!). Best of luck and you also nailed your points and brought it across well, you know, since that probably matters to you too ;)
Holy smokes! You just made my week! Oh heck, my month!
This comment means the world to me. A real gift. Thank you.
I will certainly work to improve; and your advice is something I will focus on.
And so glad to have you along for the ride!
YES, Please do a Pro video!
You got it!
I ordered one and had to wait over 9 months for delivery. I got a $7500 dealer incentive plus the $7500 tax credit. After 6 months of use I’m very satisfied. The only thing I’m not super impressed with are the infrequent OTAs. I got the standard range and it suits my driving needs perfectly. My Tesla adapter is scheduled for a June arrival.
Mine is a std. range too, and I use it as a daily work truck, no problem. I agree on the OTAs. If you watched mt vid about 10 things Ford botched on the Lightning, most owners agree that Ford needs to work on these things.
Thanks for sharing your Lightning experience!
Car Edge did a price analysis on a new Platinum at $95k. Then did pricing of one with 500 miles, the value came down to $39k!!!!! That electric vehicle depreciation in this market is ridiculous. So buy used not new and let the first buyer take the negative equity.
Not sure if I can qualify for the Pro model in Canada, but it would be interesting to find out more about it. I do a lot of short distance towing for the farm (25-40 miles one way) at harvest time. Usually 5-6,000 lbs to the plant and back empty.
The Pro was not available in Canada until late 2023, and only in very limited numbers - and then the strike happened at the Ford factory and no production made it to Canada anyway.
I had originally ordered one but was told I wouldn't be able to get mine until mid-2024, which didn't work at all. Both the federal and provincial sites in BC show it in their qualifying list, but only the standard range, which sounds like it would be absolutely perfect for your application. I think Ontario dumped theirs, but not sure. Nova Scotia still has a good provincial incentive, even more than BC I think.
The Pro actually has a higher towing capacity than the XLT, I believe, and would make short work of 6000lbs. Ford also indicates it's available for order on the Ford.ca site.
Let me know how it works out! Thanks for commenting!
I just tested a 2023 Lariat Ext demo for 72K CAD - seems pretty good deal.
Shut the front door!!
That's a mentally deranged price! I am over-the-top envious.
Did you qualify for any incentives?
Great video. A new subscriber here. I got the 2023 xlt lightning standard range. I love it, it's an excellent truck. Useful and convenient.
Wow! Thank you so much, and thrilled to hav e you along for the ride! So true on the XLT. Love mine too!
Hi truck guy. Do you know if ford is really planning to add a range extender for existing customers? I think I saw one of your videos about that. But is this idea really happening? Thanks for your videos. Great information.
@@JG-er5us Not that I am aware of. I have been following many developments but Fird has yet to publicly come out with anything.
It is one of the things that I have insisted is a needed product but will likely come from third-party providers now that Tesla is offering one for the Cybertruck. The problem is being able to hook them up directly to draw from while driving. Currently, one would have to use any range extender to charge the main battery by plugging it in through the CCS port, which makes it rather useless. All future EV trucks need to incorporate a direct auxiliary plug for such applications
The Lightning battery packs are also modular, so it is technically possible that sometime in the future it might also be an option to 'update' one's battery pack with more range. I see this as more doubtful, but the range extender is a HUGE need for the ev truck space, without having to go to a series hybrid option, etc.
I hope this helps.
Hi there. Do you know if ford is planning to add a range extender for existing customers? I think i saw one of your videos talking about that. But is this really happening? Thanks for your videos and the information you share with us.
I apologize, Jesus. I was certain I responded to this comment (maybe on another video?)
I have referred to the need for a range extender in the form of a battery 'tidy tank', but outside of Tesla saying it's coming for the Cybertruck, we're all still waiting.
The worst part is, it seems no one has bothered to add an auxiliary input plug to draw power from a secondary source. The only current option is to plug into the charging port, which one can't do while driving, leaving the only option to plug in from an range-extending source - and then waiting for it to charge the primary.
Fingers crossed the industry catches up to the obvious demand for this.
Thanks again for commenting!
Cant wait for you video that tells why you should buy one.
I stopped by an area Chevy dealer today to talk about a Silverado EV WT for the farm. They have a sister Ford dealership right next door, so I took a Lightning out for a spin; I will say, it is the best Ford I have ever driven. Still, I am going to wait for the Silverado EV or Sierra EV (but, I do not think GMC is offering a Pro version of the Sierra EV, so Silverado it is.)
Quite a ride, isn't it?
I have a reservation for the Silverado EV also. We'll see how the channel goes but the hope is to have one within the next year or two. I haven't been able to get my hands on a WT to drive here in Canada, but I have driven the Rivian and the Hummer. Ford, to date, has built the best all-around utility EV truck, but Chevy is going to give them a run for the money, I'm guessing.
Thanks as always for the comments and insight, Kellie!
I am very much interested in a lightning.
Would you please make a video on changing a tire?
Do you need a special jack for the weight?
I hope I won't have to take it to a tire shop or mechanic etc, every time I have a flat tire...
Unlike the Cybertruck, it comes with a full-size spare under the bed, and a centre feed through the back bumper to lower it with a provided crank handle.
It comes with a factory scissor jack and it is easy-peasie as far as replacing it. Lots of videos out there already on this. Here's one to check out:
ruclips.net/video/C963n09bjpk/видео.htmlsi=zWWR9481e8tQXNo
I hope this helps!
Thank you so much for your comment, and good insight for potential buyers to know!
@@truckedupevs Thank you so much!
Have you gotten or ordered your NACS adapter yet?
Yes! So excited. Ford has indicated that due to demand I might be waiting a bit, but I got a notice last week that it is in production, so I expect it soon. Can't wait to take it for a long-distance test drive!
@@truckedupevs Then you'll need to revise this list. I don't know where you'll place, "And now it has access to the largest, most reliable charging network on the planet." Even up in Canada this should be huge. Or perhaps it might be even more important up there in the Great White North. I can only imagine your version of Electrify America is even worse up there in the cold. As hard as that is to imagine.
Haha! You gave me a good laugh! Yes! They call it Electrify Canada here, and unless one can electrify an entire nation that boasts the 2nd largest land mass on the planet with a total of 12 charging stations, then uh...yeah, no.
We could tie some caribou to a treadmill and some alternators and outperform their charging network on a regular basis (especially if you feed the reindeer Newfy Screech - look it up...it's a delicacy ;-) ).
Tesla's network is absolutely brilliant in Canada. You can take any major route and never worry about charging,
I can't wait - and yes, I should have included that as, like, Number #1! Terrible brain-fart on my end. Thanks for bringing this up!
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@@truckedupevs LOL. You need to move to Hollywood. Or at least to Toronto.
As for the list -- that's why they have post prod editing. :) Unless you want to redo a whole updated video after you try out the adapter.
And by the way, there are 3rd party adapters out there already. Not saying you should do anything that might cause any damage to a very pricey item such as an EV truck. But at least watch the videos of others trying them out and make an informed decision if Ford takes too long.
I agree, the Lightning is an amazing ride!! It has limitations. But every drive is amazing!! I did disable the backup sensor. And have extra PV power and so I pay nothing for power.
Awww. I envy you! That's my hope for the future - after the move!
I just purchased a 2022 Platinum lightning extended range for $49,000. It did have 50,000 mi on it and it was used as a work truck so there were some holes in the bed for a toolbox. It works great. Couldn't be happier!
Ford really nailed it with this truck. Also, with that incredibly long battery warranty, you're still covered on the used one. You also benefitted because in 2023, they removed some features like bed weigh scales due to chip shortages. Sounds like you scored!
Thanks for sharing your experience!
Would love a Lightning Pro video. Perhaps you could compare it to a gas version too.
You're the 3rd person in the last 30 minutes to request one. Consider it done, and thank you for the feedback!
@@truckedupevs you’re welcome =)
At one time I was very against the EV push. Then one day I brought my wife into ford to test drive a few vehicles. Reluctantly she decided to just humor herself, and test drive a Lightning. 2 hours later we drove off with an Avalanche color 2023 XLT, and parked in the garage. Two months later, putting many miles on her truck, and ignoring my beloved Diesel, I again took a short trip over to Ford. 2 hours later my Diesel became property of Fords used inventory, and I headed home with my second 2023 XLT lightning, parking my beautiful Silver color right next to my wife’s avalanche colored XLT.
Moral of the story, don’t knock it until you try it. Should it be our only option? I’ll still say no. But is it an awesome option to get? YES IT IS! I love our Lightnings.
What a fantastic story! You just made my morning!
I also really appreciate you state that this might not be for everyone. The best thing one can do is go take one for a spin or, better yet, rent one for a few days. It's a difficult thing to park back on the lot if one finds it fills every need. :-)
Thank you so much for sharing your 'twin' Lightning journey!
@@truckedupevs appreciate the content. It’s both entertaining, and informative. You have a new subscriber here.
Woohoo! Thanks, Thomas! It means the world on the receiving end, really. @@thomaseynon6205
If you could strap a gen on the back and charge while driving then you would have the cat by the tail. I like the idea but sometimes I have to drive very long distance with not much around. Gas can make it, EV can't, and I can put a can of gas in the back if I am worried about it. I think Ram is going to do something like that, use a V6 to run a gen to keep going. That might be a really good idea but just any gen in the back helping you get there would be good.
Exactly, Richard. The other option is the electric 'tidy tanks' that are already approaching the market but the vehicles for either option need to catch up by having a direct feed aux. outlet. Yeah, a gas gen would do the same if it had a direct feed. If you have to go deep into the bush like in our neck of the woods, a combo setup would be sweeeeet!
Thank you so much for the great comment! (BTW, check out my newest vid on next gen trucks where I talk about this stuff, or my Ramcharger vid on the series hybrid you mention - I have some concerns on that one...).
Keep in touch!
What is the difference between gas and elc. license plate for cost?
My insurance cost?
I noticed about a 40% increase in my rate, but I went from an older, used truck to a new one. I also took out more comprehensive coverage. So, all things being equal, it wasn't anywhere near as high as all the doomsayers had forecast, in my opinion.
That would make a great video!
Thank you for your comment!
Went from a 2015 chevy volt to a 2023 xlt lightning and my insurance rate went up $50 a year ..... same exact coverage .... this is in NJ USA so ymmv
Great video. I just picked up my very discounted Lightning Lariat standard range for $64000. Charge cost during regular hours including hydro delivery fee is about 12 cents kWh. That means I can run my truck (which is amazing fast and smooth) for about 25 bucks a month 800km per month. And we have off peak rates here as low as 3-4 cents per kWh delivery included in Ontario during overnight. I’m laughing all the way to the bank and having a ton of fun doing it!!! I had a gas ford expedition then went to a Chevy volt (great car!) and finally back to a full size vehicle for insanely cheap!!!! Loving it!!
That's the way to do it! Nice deal!
Thanks for commenting.
I like your style. Good job.
Well I guess that means I like yours! Thank you so much for the awesome feedback!
Please do video on pro 2024
The next one! I'm a little late, but it's coming by the end of this weekend, I promise!
Another great video. You deserve way more subscribers. I believe you will get there. I just bought a pristine 23 XLT standard range with only 2k miles from the dealership for only 43k so there are some amazing deals out there. I don’t qualify for the tax rebate so I was happy to find a good used option. Pulled a 12,000lb trailer on the first day and I barely noticed it. Keep up the good work!
Thank you so much for supporting the channel. It means a LOT to get positive comments like this.
Nice score! Holy smokes, that's an incredible price. I'm envious! Enjoy the new wheels!
I bought a 2023 XLT Lightning brand new for 34K plus ttl 40 Days ago. Came out to about 38K OTD. This is with the EV Tax incentive right off the bat.
Wow! That's one heck of a deal.
Literally just picked up a lightning lariat with $16,000 in rebates from the dealer not included the $7500 ev tax credit i take advantage of next tax filing
That's what I'm talking about! Woohoo! Again, it's nice to put this FUD narrative to rest.
Well done, and congratulations!
Living in Norway there are allot of benifits to EV’s. Dont pay for toll stations, cheaper parking in cities, sometimes in the sunner when electricity is cheap you actually get payed to charge your car. and driving is a EV is a fraction of the price of Diesel. I will be saving USD 4k a year end this does not include service charges.
brand new 23 xlt ext battery for 53k nowadays
Pretty sweet!
@@truckedupevs Even a 93k platinum gets discounted down to 65k....pretty darn good deal id say
@@Motokids13 Yup.
In Florida when hurricanes come, gas stations run out of gas and power. Electricity comes before gas trucks
Wow! Great comment. I actually had no idea about the aftermath of such events in Florida ( being that I live in an igloo, break the ice in June and take my seal-skin kayak out and hunt walruses in the Great White Canadian North ;-) ).
Seriously, that's important for people to consider yet again. Our Lightning has already proved its worth in the remote mountains where we live, where power outages happen somewhat frequently.
Thank you for the insight!
Great video. The market share of EVs keeps going up so.......
Thank you so much! This kind of feedback means a lot to me, Josh.
Yep. Even the repurchase rate is outstanding. According to the Canadian Auto Association (CAA) here in Canada, over 97% of ev owners say their next vehicle will be another ev. That says everything!
My concern is trade in value. I am lucky to keep a vehicle two years and that’s stretching it. I just get bored with them. I need a vehicle that has very good trade in value.
I can appreciate the concern (no pun intended :-) ).
I am fortunate in that I am in Canada, and I could easily sell mine close to what I bought it for since there are not many XLT trims around. Rivian are insanely scarce, Cybertrucks and Hummers don't even ship to Canada yet, so there is a LOT of pent-up demand.
However, the same was the case for EV trucks when they first rolled out in the US, but the tide has shifted in sentiment, but let's see how that plays out over the next year.
It is a really valid concern for someone who constantly changes up their vehicle.
Thank you for the comment! Good food for thought.
Just the Lightning Pro version cost here in Norway 103 thousand dollars.. That is way too much for a EV car.
Yep. That is totally insane. I wouldn't buy any vehicle at that price. Thank you for the comment and your insight from the Norwegian perspective.
The federal tax credit is up to $7500. I only paid $3700 in federal taxes, so I was limited to that amount. However, if you paid $7500 or more in federal taxes the year you purchased your lightning, then you would get $7500 back.
If you have time to waste, buy an electric truck, they are awful in most situations. If you use a truck as a truck. In the US, in most states, Ford can't give them away. Northern VA dealer near my house has at least 30 F-150 Lightning sitting behind ICE and Diesel models that are selling. Driving from VA to GA with a 10K trailer, the lightning had to be charged 14 times. My ICE truck did the same in 2 Fill-ups with miles to spare. My friend spent more on fast charging than I did on gas. When I have time to waste perhaps when I retire, I will try one.
Good thing know one cares about your feelings or opinion!
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Sorry, you feel that way. I provided actual facts. The Ford dealership near my location will not accept any more lightning pickups from Ford, they have too many already on the lot. One customer I talked with indicated that the lighting truck they were interested in was completely dead, perhaps sitting too long. The couple smartly left the dealership without a purchase. In addition. Ford has almost stopped production of the Lightning pickup, and production may completely end by December 2024, The salesman indicated customers simply do not want a Ford Lightning. 90 miles with a full charge pulling or hauling a load is horrendous. I can't save any money if I have to keep charging every hour and a half.
10 - it's cheaper
9 - full "tank" every morning
8 - gas price go up (electricity is significantly more expensive than $.08/kwh in most of the US)
7 - power your house during an outage. very nice! less likely every year.
6 - stick out a long traffic jam?
5 - like & subscribe, and then - heat pump coming 2024, very nice, improving winter range
4 - f150 lightning is 5 star rated by the NHTSA
3 - truck is very comfortable (can confirm)
2 - frunk is really cool
1 - "it just feels good, bro, trust me"
You went to Harvard.
I can tell...
@@truckedupevsi'm not sure what you mean by that but keep making videos
8:46 Your math doesn't include charging inefficiencies. It takes about 12kwh to put in 10kwh.
It also doesn't include wind resistance, my bad driving habits, and the fact that I failed math - but all things being equal, that adjustment doesn't change the whopping spread in savings between gas and electrons. Feel free to adjust the several cents per charge :-).
Seriously though, thank you for pointing this out.
Lightning XLT extended $74,000 msrp!!! Yikes!!! Not what i was willing to part with. Gave up on Lightning after watching them in vids for months. But in March 2024 a dealership here in Mass adverrtised 3 rebates of $7500 each!!! What? I went down next day for test drive..... and made the deal. Thats right....over $21,000 off!!!! VERY pleased thus far after 3000 miles. Except for turn radius lol. Got the Lectron Tesla adaptor and I dont experience range anxiety any more. Unfortunately we have high electric rates on cape cod....31 cents kwh. but even that puts me, at minimum, MINIMUM... DOUBLE the milles per dollar that an ice truck would get. Double? Yup! I estimate the fuel savings to be about 15 grand over the course of ten yrs..... $1500/yr !!! I dont tow so no big deal. Its really a case by case basis. Got to do your homework and society got to do better on charging infrastructure.
Congratulations! That's a great story!
Yeah, the prices were just stupid, and then things cooled, and thank goodness. I am now seeing these things everywhere - and often pulling camping trailers (being I live in the Canadian mountains). They can;t to w as far, of course, but where most people are camping out here have 30 or 50-amp plugs at the campsites!
Like you, I have saved so much money since going to an electric truck.
Now that we've moved, the plan is to eventually go solar on the new house and drive for free. We'll see how that goes :-).
Thank you so much for the comment. Keep 'em comin'!
I’ll stick with my 2.7 Ecoboost
That's an incredibly reliable motor. Hey, it's all about having the right tool for the right application. Thank you for the comment!
Funny how I came across your video at this time in my life. I am in the market for a new vehicle, having gone almost 2 years without one, and I was just looking at the F-150 Lightning this morning. I know I want an electric truck even to the point of having a deposit on a Canoo ( not out and may never come out) and a Ram Rev ( not due out until late 4th quarter), I v'e seriously leaned into the R1T as well but just can't justify the money. I used to have 2 F-150's and for some reason went to Dodge. I am going to go look at the Lightning after watching your video as I just don't think I could pass it up after hearing from some absolutely dry sense of humor Canadian, What could go wrong with that scenario unless you are are a Trudeau supporter. I doubt this as you did make the funny Biden comment, very subtly, but I heard it and for that you won my vote for Canadian of the year. I would offer to give you Biden but you have a Trudeau and that does not seem fair to punish a country that gave us Hockey (eh) :-) Love the video and I did subscribe. I wish you all the best and I 'll inform you as to my decision in the very near future.
OMG! Comments like this make me want to work twice as hard on my videos! Thank you so much for sharing your experience - and YES, please let me know what you decide! So excited for you!
I want one
Have you taken one out for a spin/test drive? First time I did....OMG! That was it.
Thanks for commenting!
Hmmm...didn't Ford have some Lightening trucks catch fire in their production parking lot awhile back? Oh yeah. There goes your electric truck AND your house!
And in the same period, didn't several hundred gas vehicles catch fire and burn down houses - but anti-EV, pro oil & gas pundits are not fans of actual facts because that doesn't fit their narrative? It's simple math. I hav enow mentioned this glaring oversight in three videos. Maybe watch my FUD video. I go over this same, old trope - over, and over, and over ad nauseum on a regular basis...
And the oil companies are buying stock in electric companies as you speak! And everyone is going to get a significant price increase in electric bills! Why? Because the infrastructure has to be built!! Fuel prices will begin to drop, while electric will rise. Common sense here!
Nice video, however you along with all other videos never address the people who rent an apartment in a complex who have no interest in installing chargers. Your time and energy is wasted finding chargers that are accessible and operating. Charging time comes no where near a traditional fill up. Until this is addressed, ev’s will always fall short.
Great post, Rob. Actually, I have addressed that very issue in several of my videos. I agree with you. In many scenarios for many urban folk, evs don't yet make sense until this hurdle is overcome.
Thank you for bringing this to light in the comments. It's an important point that should not be overlooked.
@@truckedupevs thanks!! Again i want ev’s to be an option for everyone, myself included. There are several vehicles i am interested in. I sincerely hope the technology in batteries and charging makes major advances to capitalize on the vehicles that are able to be created.
Got mine for 56k minus the 7500 rebate
Not a "bad truck" overall but a few big problems with it.
(1) Lower range (320 mile range is very disappointing too low a range to tow anything big far distances over 100 miles esp in the Winter months)
(2) No super fast 350kwh charging capability (unlike GM variants)
(3) No 4 wheel steering
(4) No midgate configuration ability. (Unlike GM variants)
Yup. I covered some of these in my ten costly mistakes of the lightning video. Thank you for your comment!
I thought this was going to be good comedy, because nobody could come up with 10 reasons to own one.
Is the number 1 reason that you can't get a Cybertruck?
If not, then it should be.
Cybertruck > Lightning
I live in BC, $9000 in rebates? That much, really?
Yup. I applied for the BC $4K, and the federal was automatic at the dealership, so yes $9K. Keep in mind this is to the $70K max, so the XLT and the Pro are the only two trims that qualify.
My order was for the Pro, but it took too long as far as waiting for my order, so I tracked down an XLT.
I hope thid helps.
Thanks for your comment!
The provincial rebate is now based on income so family income around $100k you get nothing I believe.
I bet my 2022 2.7 l 4 cylinder Toyota Tacoma out lasts your EVs
Is it a Hot Wheels?
;-)
These look like fake comments to me 🙂
OR...they're 'faked' fake comments created by real people pretending to be bots to create REAL comments that are actually faked to be fake.
OR they're bots created by bots to fake being fake by faking fake bots...
But the likelihood is that I'm completely out to lunch, or faking to be... but that's extremely unlikely.
:-)
NEVER!!!!!
70000 dollars!! No.
Cdn$. Ppl are buying the same version in the US for around $40k.
Was about to hit suvbscribe, a little fun is good but seens soem of your dialog seems to be inspired by the series Psyche. Drop it, your good but the wierd dialog is frustrating.
Won't be 'dropping it'. I don't take kindly to demands.
Bye.
I thought Norwegians were polite. Guess not.
😍👍Sub #700
Woohoo! Thank you so much, Patrick!
Starting to regret subscribing with the stupid comeyand antics
Sorry to see you go, but simply press it again and BOOM! you're unsubscribed & your problems are solved.
Who in their right mind would buy a disposable truck? JUNK
Who in their right mind would find this comment useful, informative, or smart? FACT
See how easy it is to say anything without needing to back it up?
Everything is disposable, STUPID!
@@truckedupevsI find the comment useful because it's true.
There's enough evidence of EVs being disposable junk (especially since it's a Ford) without having to provide citation.
The John Kerry Edition F150?
Yea...no thanks.
You might prefer the Cybertruck.
They’re always a few negative comments from people that have never driven an F150 Lightning!
I appreciate not wanting a particular vehicle based on your needs, but to assign politics to an EV truck is like saying, "one of those Biden I-phones" or "those Deep State Nixon fax machines".
It's just funny - and sounds foolish.
Maybe ask some of the good folk on this page who own Lightnings if politics played a part when buying their truck. You obviously made some big false assumptions about my political affiliation, which - by the way - WON'T ever be mentioned on this channel.
Oh, and last note on the Kerry comment, which, being Canadian I can only partially fathom:
Were you aware that Ford was working on the Lightning's development while Trump was still in office back in 2018?
Like I said, funny - and foolish.
@truckedupevs Good point. You can keep your Bidenmobile. Maybe you should ask Ford why they aren't selling if they're so amazing. I see folks sitting in them at the local charging station with cobwebs growing on them. Yea...I want some of THAT.
But IM the foolish one. Yea...OK! 😆 🤣 😂
@@truckedupevs...and really, should you be throwing stones at ANYONE with a dictator like Trudeau taking away more of your rights every day?? That's why you're being forced into these crappy EVs in the first place.