Ford F-150 Lightning review // A real truck or expensive toy?
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- Опубликовано: 24 фев 2023
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This is a Motormouth couple car review of the new Ford F-150 Lightning full electric pickup truck. The Ford F-150 Lightning with a whopping 775 lb-ft of torque. All models of the Ford F-150 Lightning come with dual electric motors, standard range models have a 98 kWh battery with 370 km/240 miles, a combined 462 horsepower. Extended Range models a 131 kWh battery with 515 km/320 miles, a combined 580 horsepower. The Ford F-150 Lightning offers 8.4” of ground clearance, it has unique signature front lighting that wraps around the headlamps and extends across the entire front of the hood. It comes standard with LED headlights and LED taillights, a grey satin metallic grille, black or a tinted chrome grille depending on the trim you choose, 18” wheels in the US, 20” in Canada, available 22”. The F-150 Lightning is only offered as a crew cab with a 5.5-foot bed and payload varies depending on the vehicle configuration, maximum payload 2200 pounds. The Lightning can tow up to 10,000 pounds but it varies with each model. The interior cabin space of the F-150 Lightning is spacious and comfortable and has unique stow away shifter. The available work surface folds directly from the centre console creating a mobile office. The Lightning has lots of storage including a front trunk that offers 14.1 cubic feet of space or 400 litres. The frunk has four 120-volt outlets so you can run things like a laptop, microwave or even power tools. The Ford F-150 Lightning comes standard with a 12” touchscreen with Sync4, wireless Apple Carplay and Android Auto and a 12” digital driver display. The Lariat adds the larger 15.5” touchscreen which you see in our test model. In Canada, the F-150 Lightning SR starts at $79,000, Lariat SR $90,000, XLT ER $95,000, Lariat ER $108,600, Platinum ER $121,000. In the US, Pro SR $55,974, XLT SR $63,474, XLT ER $80,974, Lariat SR $74,474, Lariat ER $85,974, Platinum ER $96,874.
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My husband loves your review but he wants to say that this truck is perfect for him. He's an electrician and loves that it comes with a generator feature and all the other features he can use on different job sites. It has great torque for towing to sites around town he says he won't need to tow further than 50 miles. It has a good load capacity he says he can carry all his tools in that awesome frunk.
Yup as a home builder, we got one too to try out and they are absolute game changers. The frunk is awesome to store and charge tools so you can keep the bed empty to haul lumber/plywood/drywall. You have a silent powerhouse generator in the back. It hauls and tows better than any other half ton. Virtually no maintenance or wasted time at gas stations. Just plug in at the end of the day and have a full "tank" every morning (for us, at an electricity cost of $3 per 100 miles). The problem is. at least with reviewers and EV haters, everyone who owns a truck is portrayed to not even have a home. They just strap on the heaviest trailers they can, and just keep driving them all day from one end of the country to the other. Not saying that there aren't people that need to do this, and they would be right to say, this is not the truck for them. But for a lot of us contractor types, our trucks never leave the city limits. You can not beat this truck for utility and operational costs if it fits your use case.
I always find it amusing when people are upset when someone buys a light-duty pickup truck and doesn't do "Truck Things". They don't have anything to say when someone buys a 700hp Shelby Mustang and never takes it to the track. When someone buys a fullsize SUV like the new Cadillac Escalade V with 600 plus horsepower to drop off the kids at school. Lol People will buy what they like and what they can afford and the automakers know that. The Lightening is just another option for F150 customers to choose from and the reality is Ford can't build enough of them to satisfy demand.
I wish I could give you more than one thumbs up.
What about buying a land Rover with roof rack and you never take it on a safari to Africa…😂
As we said we think it is for people who just like driving a truck. Pretty simple...
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Its crazy everyone gets so caught up on towing long distances. Only a small portion of towing is long distances. A lot of people tow local and the Lightning tows great. If you need to simply tow your boat to the Lake or a contractor around town the Lightning tows better than any gas/diesel truck. Everyone gets upset over the one use case it does not work, but Ford sell 900,000 f150s a year with various uses. The f150 Lightning knocks it out of the park for most uses. I own one and its a fantastic vehicle.
Oh man we can have an air fryer, keurig, and power up the starlink at the campsite with this thing!
I do like it when RUclips channels try to help each other out. TFL are awesome
I've owned a 2017 F-150 Supercrew for about 3 years now. XLT, 4×4 and base (non-turbo) V-6. That engine even has more HP and TQ than a V-8 truck back when I was a young man in the '90's. I'm happy with it, but would like one of these if I could afford it. Living and working in the city, most of my driving is supposed and go, so extended range EV a charge would last me a couple of weeks. For a homeowner like myself that only occasionally uses the truck for dump or Home Depot runs this would be fine. That almost $100K pricetag is just too much. Great review folks, thanks!
Maverick's the truck for me ! awesome review guys, can't stop watching you !!
Electric maverick would be perfect for 50% of f150 owners
My lightning is amazing at doing trucky stuff. Better than any of my previous f-150s. 2012, 2015, 2018. They where all good. But i am not missing any of them. That extra cost... i am getting back in gas everymonth. $50-60 is my extra cost per month on my electricity bill. Vs. $700 to $800 in gas.
Go solar then see how much better life gets. A 30kw battery wall system and you are all set.
How many miles do you drive a month?
I bought a brand new 2015 F150 2.7L back in 2015 (which was considered first generation) and i had zero issues in 8 years of ownership. When they rate Ford as a company, they use it as a whole company and this is why is lower. There is a reason why f150 is the most sold truck because it os reliable and fun to drive.
I agree. I have a 2016 2.7 with not an issue to date. Love my f150.. never owned another vehicle this long. Never gets old.
How many kms are on it and how many times did you have to take it for major repairs?
@@landondolanz2844 How many kms are on it and how many times did you have to take it for major repairs?
@@mikeymyke i have about 150000 km and i never had any major repairs. Jus oil changes, tire replacements and fluid changes at 110000. I have a coworker who has a 2016 f150 with over 500000 km (334000 miles) and i asked him if he had any major issues. He told me that he only had to change the starter and the differential and rest of it was regular maintenance. Previously, i had a tacoma and i had more issues in my 5 years of owning Tacoma then f150.
@@mikeymyke mine has around 140k on it and no major repairs. Just oil changes/regular maintenance and new tires.
Love the show. Ur Wife’s reaction is so funny. Thank you Both! Lovely couple..
So happy to have my questions be the hot topic today!
Another good review. Only relatable item for me is being able to turn off the screen😂
I turn mine off completely all the time in my bronco sport.
Especially at night.
Love the quality of your reviews. Clear and concise.
Thanks for the kind words, really glad you enjoyed the review.
Loved the review. And the shout out to TFL was a nice touch. You did an awesome job.👍👍
Thank you, glad you liked it. TFL is great, they know trucks.
We purchased the lariet in August and put a mid rise canopy on it. We have two large dogs and seemingly endless stuff to bring back and forth to our lake property. We love it.
AWD Hybrid Maverick sounds like the best pick-up for me! I couldn’t wait and bought a AWD Toyota Sienna instead in part of Motormouth’s review!! Love it.
That's great, congratulations!!!
fact you were able to find a sienna before a mav.. that's just damn amazing and lucky! hahaha
Interesting review. I recently bought this truck with the standard battery. I reviewed my needs over and over again and it came to the following: Most driving that my wife would use it would be to the local groceries, pick up grand kids, no trips that would be over 300 km. I use it for yard work, mulch and general maintenance around the home. I travel with my MachE for longer trips. So really long trips would be either in the MachE or I would plan to do a couple of stops and enjoy the trip. 98% of the time would be under 100 km total trip. A friend of mine always said to never make 100% of a decision based on a 2% event. In Canada the government gives you $5,000 for the SR battery. The extended range battery cost $15,000 so the total cost of the battery becomes $20,000. 90 km for $20,000. Hmm, a bit steep for 2% of the time. Charge times can be 15 mins on a fast charger. Never go beyond 80% unless you have time to burn. So this configuration works great for us. My grand daughter asked me if I had rockets in the truck, so that speaks volumes.
Let’s talk long term, the 1,000 mile battery has been developed, maybe 4 yrs till full mass production. So down the road the after market will hit the EV market with cheaper, long range batteries to replace the old tech. So this truck is a long play. The F150 has lots of aftermarket add ons already so you get that benefit already. What I am saying is that there is more to this truck and decision than what meets the eye. Too many comments come from people that do not know what they are saying and therefore form the opinions of others with incomplete facts.
Lastly, I get average 25 kw/ 100 KM, this works out to 4 km/Kw. A Kw if charged at night is $.087 plus delivery charge. That is very cheap driving cost. Besides the fact you don’t have the smell of gas, noise or exhaust. Sounds like a win/win/win
I love mine. It hauls hay when I need and my surfboards most of the time. Like most people who buy a crew cab short box truck I am not using it for “work” stuff. For that I have my 2500 HD. The Lightning is amazing and I wouldn’t drive any other vehicle as my daily driver.
Yup. This seems exactly to be the use case scenario - short haul daily driving. I commented earlier that a PHEV pickup truck would seem to make more sense for most. Your situation seems to achieve the functional equivalent of a PHEV. :)
you guys are awesome and fantastic reviews!! i am also a fan of tfl channel so awesome the shout out
Roman is such a great guy!
Plumbers don't need to tow 7k lbs across the Rockies. Neither do Power Companies. There are plenty of work cases where the Lightning is the superior truck.
I’m one of them. I love my lightning.
Love Zac’s happy face when he’s in a big back seat 😂
When Ford first mentioned this truck, base price was about 30K. What happened?
Very first thing I noticed as Andrea matted it was the total silence.
So incredibly quiet.
I've owned 3 Ford F150s and 1 Superduty with 3 of the 4 purchased new and I'll never buy a new one again. The pricing is now utterly ridiculous! A practical plug-in hybrid should have been Ford's priority with decent cold weather and towing range. 40 to 60kms of battery range for short commutes and daily activities with a 4 cylinder ICE to tow and when the mercury dips.
Form a driving expense I derived this from the video. 60-90% charge on a DC charger was $21. Standard range 370km x 30% = 111kms. F150 Hybrid 3.5 ecoboost rated at 9.8L/100km combined. Therefore 9.8 x 1.11 = 10.9L - regular gas in Alberta is around $1.25/L or less, $1.25x10.9L = $13.63. That is 37% less $ per KM with the hybrid. And... no towing limitations, no range limitation, you can run your tools, run your house. Hybrids are by far the better solution for a working truck at this time in my opinion.
Correct, that’s assuming your ford has a relatively good kWh usage during winter months and trust me as an EV owner I’ll tell you that kWh usage below -20 is outrageous. Charging at home would be cheaper but you won’t be able to charge to 100% overnight and nevertheless EV trucks are a total nonsense. I own a Tesla and ram 1500 and each one of those have their own purpose and place on the market. Check hummer EV it costs twice as much to drive than it’s ICE cousin.
I think the big advantage would be if you can charge at home. At 12 cents/kw and a 98kw battery that would only be $11.76 to charge the whole battery to full.
buying an EV with the intention of primarily charging it using public fast chargers is for people that are too stuck in their own ways. Public charging should really only be done sparingly
@Jason Quaile agreed, and many areas such as malls and cafes have free level 2 public chargers, IKEA has free fast chargers
@@MrDomestosWC I totally agree. The pure EV are best suited for urban and suburban commuting.
My contractor has one. He hauls around materials from Home Depot like 2x4, drywall, spools of wire, bathtubs, etc. He is based in the city and all of his projects are within 100km, so this truck is perfect especially when stuck in traffic. So yeah, it can definitely work as a work truck.
He’s overcharging you if he can afford a $100,000 work truck!
@@skellington2000 Many of us could make good money if we all worked under the table and didn't pay taxes.
Great, until the power goes out
@@kellingtonlink956 This is a pretty stupid comment.
@@kellingtonlink956Apparently you haven’t shopped for a truck lately. A contractor I know just paid 90k for his new truck.
I love you guys, excellent review 🙌🏾
Oh my that’s huge thing! I guess it’s perfect for Zack. 😉 It’s depends what are they using for. It’s great to have a lots storages but power for your home up to 3 days. That’s amazing!! I think it’s perfect for my niece’s husband. He like this thing for pulling a home or camping. Great video with a few good laughs Andrea! 👍🏻👍🏻
Great review and information. It's a real EXPENSIVE TRUCK!! 🙂
Too expensive. Ford says 79% of people who buy the Lightning are new EV owners and over 51% are new to the Ford brand.
Had my 2009 Ram 3500 Cummins loved that to tow my 13,5000 30 foot 5th wheel, great fuel economy, Highway 5 grades did not slow it down. But for everyone who wants a truck for round town, even some calm road trips you cannot find anything better. Thermal management for charging is better than Rivian!
I've driven an F150 for years and love it. I tow on rare occasions but for the most part it's my daily driver from work and back. I have hobbies that I use the truck for on a regular basis and would be lost without my truck bed. The lightning would suit my needs just fine. All the benefits of a gas light duty full size pick up without the massive cost of filling the gas tank. If the lightning was the same price as a gas powered F150. The lightning would be my choice.
Thanks for the feedback!
@@skellington2000 except max range and towing are very important, so much so that they overshadow any benefits of the Lightning. Yesterday I drove 800kms across the prairies in -25 degree weather, tomorrow I’m towing snowmobiles. Lightning should have been a plug in hybrid
When they released the Pro trim in the US at under 40k I was all about it but with the chip shortage etc. and the dealer mark ups and all of the many problems I'm glad I wasn't able to get my hands on one. Still would like it but at a much lower cost. Competition is improving and that should help
Today my buddy drove me from New york to Syracuse.
On the way we stopped near the end of NJ at the Penn state border.
There was a row of people yawning in their teslas with umbilical cords to their creepy chargers.
As we sat down and pulled away, I said No thanks, this joke's on you.
The range is great but we had to get somewhere by a certain time and the snow was falling hard. The last thing I need is a battery charging time upwards of 40 minutes, alarms going off because we're using too much heat and it's cold outside, and then hunting to go to a charging station where 50% of the plugs don't work.
I own one for over a year and I can say I love it. Great truck as a daily. I own a construction company and i will not go back to gas. Towing is not great but for heavy loads and driving a lot of miles it’s perfect.
Enjoyed the review. Well done.
Very good review. Thanks
My neighbour a few houses down drives this, I believe he's an accountant.
This fit 90% of people using the truck for. The other 10% that do long range towing they can still use the gas / hybrid version.
I was fortunate enough to be an early reservation holder and got the first Lightning (Lariat ER) in Western NY early June 2022. I have 18,600 miles already (trouble free) and love the utility and versatility.
I'll only towed 5k or less locally and towing performance is great but obviously as with all EV, aerodynamics is the deciding factor on how far you go.
Pricing is high but I was in early when an every option Lariat ER was under $80k. One key feature vs a traditional half ton is the independent rear suspension. The ride is more full size body on frame SUV than pick up.
Great road tripper as 270 miles at 70 mpg is doable and 320 around town. Charging curve is solid and will hold 170 kw for 10-15 mins and is always in triple figures until 80%.
Overall, my far the most impressive vehicle I've owned and we've owned 40+ in our family since the mid 1980s.
P. S. Max towing is 10,000 lbs with the Max Tow pkg
Great review
I think Ford did a great job but living in Saskatchewan and having very cold winters I’ve rethought getting an electric vehicle. I think there needs to be a breakthrough in battery technology to extend range and bring down price
Great video!
Thanks for your reviews. Love watching them. I think its time to add a little "honesty" to EVs. Gas vehicles have to state city and highway fuel consumption. Perhaps EVs should state hot and cold battery ranges? Probably would better inform customers what to expect in various temperature scenarios.
I got my long ranged battery lightning in October 2022. I am getting 400km out of a full charge in the winter. Drove peterborough to east of ottawa... 320km ... battery went from 85% to 9% in a minus 7 to minus 10 weather.
Anything not on the highway is better gets better mileage. Confident i will be getting over 500km range in the summer weather.
Also have to say that the truck cabin goes from dead cold to fully hot within 3 minutes. There is no waiting for the heart.
Hauling and towing is great if used locally. Not for long distance traveling or towing because the charging infrastructure just isn't ready for them yet. Once there's as many charging stations as there are gas stations, range won't be an issue
There is already more charging stations per ev otr in the U.S. TODAY. Then their is gas stations per ice vehicle. 🤔
Trucks are not just for hauling long range. Granted, you don't want it if hauling long range until they have longer range batteries and more pull through charging locations. But there are tons of truck things this truck can do, and Ford did a nice job with it. A list of "truck things" I've done with a pickup truck in the last couple of years that didn't include any long range towing: towing a dump trailer in town, towing a pull behind auger in town, hauling large gravel, hauling pea gravel, hauling mulch, hauling scrap concrete to the dump, hauling generic garbage to the dump, hauling rentable equipment like compacters, hauling concrete sacks, hauling construction supplies from home improvement stores, moving furniture. That is a ton of stuff, most of which could not have been done without a pickup truck.
Greetings from T.O and Great show Zach and Andrea ! Noo thanks way too expensive I will keep my 2017 F150 V8 I get better driving range, towing and it's paid off lol 😆 .
Way too much money! I'll take a Ford Maverick XL for my light duty usage. Excellent review as always! I ✅️
I wanted to go for the XLT version but its so expensive so its looking like im out since the standard version just dont have enough bells and whistles for me. I may look into the Maverick for in a few years . Save me money that way
I thought the underwhelming Toyota Tundra would be something like this. I am really liking this Ford.
I think the hybrid version is the best powertrain for the people who go on longer trips or tow loads any distance. It can save gas innthe city and that mobile power pack may be appealing.
For the full ev. People who have their cottage/cabin fairly close to home. It should be able to do most daily driver duties with out a trailer no problem. If it had a stripped down work truck model it could be a good companion to a gas model on work sites. Work sites that don't require long hauls.
Great review you hit the nail on the head, too expensive for the quality you get. Lightening's on fire at Dearborn Assembly did create a "Stop Build" order until the battery issues can be investigated. Also in Oregon one of these was "bricked" at a charger and they have no idea what happened after taking it to a dealership. As a Ford owner for the last 5 vehicles Im exhausted with all the recalls on my 2021 Explorer ST, its at 5 now and counting. Ford's SYNC3 and SYNC4 is the most poorly executed automotive software available, their mobile App FordPass barely works 60% of the time. Time to look elsewhere for quality at these prices.
I love a girl that can drive and it just so happens she is absolutely gorgeous to great video guys thank you
Finally a seasoned car reviewer mentioning " never buy a 1st year new model" by the way the 1st year 2019 Rav4 new modal had issues with the new 8 speed ato tranny. My personal bitch with the Lighting is the tiny box, i need a full size box same issue with the Tremor.
Price was around 41k i think when the first base lightning came out in the U.S.A. already a 15K Bump in a year !
How many chargers are there in the western part of the USA?? I live in Denver Colorado and travel to Phoenix Arizona. How many times would I need to charge?? Hiw many days would it take??
You’re right about first-gen automotive tech being OK from Toyota. I had a 1998 GS 400, which was loaded with brand new tech. After 8 years the only thing that malfunctioned was the seal on the gas cap, which cost $10.
Unfortunately when it comes to EVs Toyota couldnt even release its latest model before having to recall it due to the wheels literally falling off.
@@genericreference6969 Thanks for the warning; I hadn't heard about that. Ironically the issue sounds like it is old technology, but scary nonetheless. Technically speaking, Toyota has shipped a variety of EV's in the past, including PHEVs and at least one BEV from over a decade ago.
Is getting the extended range battery pack justified for an extra 16k? My normal total to and back work daily drive is under 100 kilometers from South Surrey to Downtown Vancouver. I work 4 days in a week with occasional extra 1 day if extra day is needed. I'm thinking of getting XLT standard range, please suggest me otherwise. Thanks in advance.
Ford has a sync 4a update out that allows you to use the volume knob to adjust the cabin temperature instead of the sliders on the screen. New camera button located top left screen. Reorganized the controls & features. Added one button controls for often used features. Update 4.1.2
how long does the battery last till you need to replace them and how much? or the car is disposable after 5 to 10yrs?
Until they come with a lighter battery with more capacity, probably a hybrid would be my choice. What blows me away is the Tundra Hybrid from Toyota is only marginally better on gas.
We found the same with the Toyota Sequoia, terrible fuel economy.
The people that will want and can afford this will be the ones that actually don’t *need a truck but can say they drive one. Zack and Andrea all of the key points on the head.
You are right, Ford says 79% of people who buy the Lightning are new EV owners and over 51% are new to the Ford brand. If you can afford it and you don't need a pick-up truck to do all the things trucks are supposed to do, you will love all the power.
Yeah I was going to bring up something similar. There was a study down on how often truck owners tow or use the bed, and the vast majority didn't. They liked the fact that they had the ability too, but very rarely did.
The Lightning will serve these people perfectly and if you are in the minority, you are already looking at something more capable than an F150
To add to that I feel like if this was a Ford Explorer no one would bat an eye to not having the best towing range.
Prettty good!!
I think this truck will appeal to a small segment of the population. Those who are:
1. tech nerds
2. have a household income of at least $300K
3. have a husband that spends a good deal of time doing projects around the house and is therefore in the big box stores very often
4. doesn't tow very often and when they do, again, it's power equipment from a big box store, less than 20 miles from their house
I personally don't think there are enough people such as this, which is why this will always be a niche truck. Now since Ford produces so many other cars, this isn't an issue. There are companies like Rivian and Lucid, however, who are having major issues with sales. Simply put, not enough people are buying their incredibly expensive cars.
I think the pro model (if it ever comes to Canada) is the one we want but I’m not sure at $60K they’re selling it at a loss. I’m going to have to wait for all of those fleet leases to go on sale unfortunately!
The Pro version is for sale in Canada, but for fleet sales only. If business owners want one, they can buy one. If normal people want one, the only way they can have a chance to buy one is through car-sharing coops like Modo.
@@firefox39693 so, I own my own business but not one that requires a truck. Do you think I would qualify? Even if I could afford an XLT I prefer the Pro version (no light bars, smaller screen etc).
@@jsinope2786 I'm confident that you would easily qualify to buy the basic one through Ford Canada's fleet division.
Wow Andrea, that is fast. Been waiting for this video of a most intriguing EV pick up truck. Looks neat and stylish and well equipped.
It handles really well, it just can't do all the truck things its supposed to do, a big one is towing.
@Andrea Spencer Yes the towing is a real issue for lots of truck drivers. Otherwise I agree its an all round good buy if its electrified truck driving buyers desire.
These people know so much about this product. Its almost like they work for ford.
I have a 22' XLT SR that was $69k CAD. Unfortunate how the prices spiked 10k in 2023.
I believe Ford did their research and found most commercial buyers want reliable, versatile, low maintenance vehicles which travel less than 100 miles per day. They can easily be charged overnight. People who tow large heavy trailers long distances will have to look elsewhere until compact efficient range extending technologies advance.
Ford is the leader and always will be hear in the USA.
The fact that Ford has halted production of the Lightening for several weeks due to battery fire issues is not a good indicator they have figured everything out yet despite the cute design features. Seems they are still several years away from solving the main issues. Looks good though!
Im a plumbing contractor, few things to consider such as with an incorporated business I can only write off $35k of a work vehicle unless its full electric then I can write off 100%. Also Im seeing these lightnings for sale for $69000 CAD, and you get a $9000 givernment incentive. So now were looking at $60,000 truck I can write off 100% of the cost of. 300km a day range with apparently the payload not having a detrimental affect on the range, unlike towing. Few reasons Im considering a lightning over another diesel.
Contractor towing, in town where it all happens, cannot do better, the towing issue is only high speed highway with large high and wide trailers with lots of drag, such as a RV not a good choice.
PHEV really seems to be the answer here, for those who need to preserve occasional towing capacity
My partner and I have a 2022 Mach-E (and a 2023 Kona EV) and love it. However, we will definitely be investing in a Ford Lightning this year as we live in rural Canada and need to regularly power through lots of snow and ice and generally rough terrain - as well as move/haul heavy items that simply won't fit in a car or SUV. This is pretty typical with rural living (we currently use a Dodge Ram for this kind of stuff). Ford Lighting is perfectly suited to a rural lifestyle so I believe that's the main market.
“Investing” 😂
Wish I was worth millions.
This would be a good work truck for a construction supervisor so it would have worked for me personally but not my crew.
Zero issues so far on my 2023 F150 Lightning Lariat. Agree with Zach and you should not buy the first year of any vehicle, gas or electric.
can you two revisit this as they just slashed the price to 69K and qualifies for 9K rebates in BC!
For my purposes (I was an Electrical Contractor) it wouldn't work for me as I always was towing a trailer or hauling large loads and always required an 8 foot bed as our conduit is 10 feet in length.
ja a funny phenomenon kicks in already: the more you see of them trucks look almost alike the more they look like any...
Hey there!
Great review yet this a great question who is this made for?
Too expensive for my taste.
I'll buy it in a heartbeat 😊if I had the money 😁
A great honest review, no one who truly needs a full size pickup would buy a full EV lighting. It's a status symbol.
So half the light duty market lol
Radio antenna wow how retro.🍁🍁🍁🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
It’s 2023. Why does truck still have antenna mast on the front fender?
To warn you that you’re too high in a parkade. If antenna hits, means you probably need to stop and back out.
Kudos to Ford for being an early EV truck builder, but it has lots of bugs to fix, its pricey, and dealers are playing games with them over charging and manipulating buyers…
I do agree that people are overly harsh on one manufacturers over the other. Tesla do have a pretty good list of combustion but somehow it has never caused a big enough splash to investigate why (or perhaps all investigation points to a one off occurrence?)
Hyundai and Kia is deserved though since iihs wrote a study and it confirmed that on average Kia and Hyundai car are significantly more likely to gets fire claim from 2011-2016 and it increases with time,
Thanks, Andrea & Zack.
Interesting that you mentioned the hybrid. Andre, TFL Truck’s main man for Roman recently sold his F150 hybrid. Personal vehicle and he absolutely loved it. A great compromise as he tows a boat regularly fairly long distance for recreation with his family. Onboard powerbed capability another plus. I think he even charged a friend’s Model 3 while at the lake where they go if I recall.
I always wonder how many of the full sized pickups sold annually are used for serious work/towing/hauling 🤷🏻♂️
Towing range is mostly determined by the aerodynamics of the trailer, not so much the weight. Edmunds did a towing test with a 7,000 lb trailer and got 170 miles. In my case I tow 7,000-8000 lbs 25-30 times a year (at harvest time), but I only go around 40 miles (and back empty), so I could charge it over night and it would work perfectly (and cost a LOT less than gas). Now if they could just reduce the eye watering purchase price....
every pickup has insane prices though
Wow!
Is it bigger?
Much like the Mustang, the F-150 Lightning is a statement vehicle for Ford.
Ford is saying "We're here for the EV revolution and to prove it we're electrifying a legendary and iconic model (Mustang) and the best selling North American truck for decades."
Expensive toy 🙂
I had a reservation for over a year. However, when the promise of a relatively reasonably priced electric truck was devoured by Ford’s greedy bait and switch tactics, I bailed. We bought a BMW X5 45e PHEV for much less than the truck would have cost. I’ll keep driving my old truck for a few more years until competition can temper some of the greed in the truck market.
$90K+ is a lot to spend on a family mover truck that you can only use to tow occasionally. Plenty of other hybrids out there that do (almost) the same things for a lot less.
This is what Ford did: They build an all-electric truck to show the others(Chevy & Ram & Rivian) that they could. It doesn't matter that it can't work like a gas truck because it is not designed to do that. And Ford knew it all along. This is not a surprise to them.
Rain Man was an excellent driver.
Things to note. 1. Way to expensive for the average person. 2. XL (Pro) version not offered in Canada (Come on Ford Canada, get it together). 3. Range is sub par for a EV that costs this much. 4. Limited supply and long wait times to obtain even if you have the crazy money to spend on one. 5. As mentioned in the video, it's not capable of doing enough basic truck stuff without taking a massive hit on range. In Alberta this EV is great for urban areas where there is more charger density, but on the highways where the density is very low combined with sub par range this vehicle is a "No Go".
Problem now that ford has recalled their lightening and cancelled sale and put a stop order preduction from the factory due to battery issues and fire
I have a 22 lightning, a few small issues have been taking care of with over the air updates. Gotten use to the guess o meter. Rides is very comfortable, enjoyable every time. So quiet. Using my existing wall mount charger in my garage, so nice to fill up over night! My get the larger 80 amp wall charger later. I tow 2 to 4 times a year. It’s works for me! For people that need more towing you can look elsewhere, don’t knock it for people like me.
hmmm..who will by this...someone who has to have the latest and greatest tech...and 150k with taxes burning a hole in their pocket...nobody who is going to be towing or using as a work truck for sure....to me it is kinda a gimicky lifestyle choice item...but hey..its the trend going forward..just hope the engineers for the internal combustion engines do not put away their calculators just yet.nice review,,enjoy😊
BEVs make the most sense as smaller, more efficient vehicles. IMO there should be a "mineral guzzler tax" over 85 kwh that discourages manufacturers from building massive vehicles that demand equally massive batteries. Hybrid and maybe PHEV makes the most sense for pickups.
Silly
Use it as a truck. Short box - haul 8 or 10 ft drywall? But good enough for small tools and power for them and hauling workers to a job site. Don't need an $80 k diesel to do that.
that electric toy starts at 80k in Canada.