Wasn't there a whole thing awhile back where Deizel and other boutique brands were gonna make it so you couldn't profile them because people kept doing this and their sales were tanking? I swear I remember that
@@jacee8094 I hadn't heard about this! But it seems like it would be kind of a dumb move. What are they going to do, detect a frequency sweep and shut off the amp?
@@perpetualgrimace so I looked it up, and it was the VHX. Basically it doesn’t prevent it, it knows when it’s been profiled. That way the retailer will know if they did that basically
Just did a track where I blended the 5150 Blockletter in Archetype Nolly with the Diezel Herbert in Lasse Lammert Tonality and it's ridiculously awesome 👌
When Erra Self Titled came out, it blow me up how wide, rich and layered it sounds. It felt like the music was in 3D, it was incredible. I've never been more amazed by a mix, even tho I already liked their mixing on LMTF album for exemple.
It sounds so pleasing to the ear, its a really really nice mix NODE by Northlane ofc that mix reminds me of Erra Self Titled, lets not forget Jinjers mixes, that sound so damn natural and raw. But yeh i hear you on the 3Dness of Self Titled Erra, it envelops you into itself. I highly recommend jamming it on tidal or something that doesnt compress the sound
@@ZepyhrLight I agree, I am less into natural and raw mixing (I still like Lance Prenc mixes or last Whitechapel album in that tone) but I'm love highly processed mixes (I guess this is because I grew up with Joey Sturgis mixes) so that Erra mix is absolutely gorgeous to me
@@str1897 the erra mix doesn't sound super processed to me , XD on another note aw come on tho what about Jinjers way of doing things, those mixes sound fucking raw because THEY ARE RAW 🤣 I'm working with the raw mix files for their song on the top and man it's absolutely ridiculous how clean it sounds without doing a single thing 😂
@@destinos1990 It's more of a wish, since I believe that editing everything to the grid often kills the vibe - which didn't happen here. Their music is awesome.
I honestly believe the proliferation of amp sims with these types of bands is not that they just sound good in a mix. It's the fact that they can edit the shit of the DI guitar track to line up every note. To my ears that's what they all end up sounding like. Edited to death and over processed.
It was a jackson 7 string retrofitted with an evertune, pretty sure it was one pf misha mansoors older sig models, I think black with a blue burst finish
This guitar tone sounds like absolute crap........ until its in with the entire mix. This is the issue with most bedroom producers, they try to emulate what they THINK they hear from their favorite bands song, and their tone soloed sounds thick and full and perfect, but then it gets totally lost in the mix. This just shows that you can have a crunchy saturated bright almost thin sounding guitar, and then have a reallt full mix as a result. Its all about the low end of the kick and bass with the high end of the clanky bass amp, rooms and cymbals.
@@tusharjamwal no doubt many are solid. But many are lifeless muddy mixes where you can't hear or feel the low of the bass guitar, just the clangy upper mids cus Dingwall/Nolly is life, and the guitars are often beefy in the wrong way and wayyyy too loud in the mix. Thats my observation. One of the lost arts of the bedroom producer is the understanding that sending out tracks to be mixed is worth it. Too many kids mixing on laptops in their untreated corner of a room with massive speakers they dont need, and no real understanding of mixing. Very hit or miss.
@@TheCatalystOS whos gatekeeping? Im literally a bedroom producer. The point isnt not to do it... it point is people in the pasy 7-8 years were thrusted into DIY production with zero real experience in studios, while being bombarded by youtubers with just as little experience, trying to get clicks for giving out bad advice and "eq cheat sheets" which has caused a large amount of these kids to just straight up no understand how production and mixing works on a fundamental level. The only gatekeeper is youtubers pretending to be masters of a craft they have never actually done professionally, teaching kids bad habits that result in bad recordings sometimes.
It sounds awesome, but screw that guy for returning the amp right after profiling it. What a moocher. It's because of people like that that music stores will inevitably go under.
@End Of Age if I can or cannot has zero bearing on my opinion of this tone. Just like if you can or cant has zero bearing on your enjoyment of the tone
"Bought a Deizel Herbert, profiled it, then returned it" 🤣
Wasn't there a whole thing awhile back where Deizel and other boutique brands were gonna make it so you couldn't profile them because people kept doing this and their sales were tanking? I swear I remember that
@@jacee8094 I hadn't heard about this! But it seems like it would be kind of a dumb move. What are they going to do, detect a frequency sweep and shut off the amp?
@@perpetualgrimace so I looked it up, and it was the VHX. Basically it doesn’t prevent it, it knows when it’s been profiled. That way the retailer will know if they did that basically
@@jacee8094 ahhh. "Sorry sir we have a strict no return policy on amps that have been profiled"
Bought a Diezel Herbert. Kept it.
Combining two amp sims really feels like the way to go, can really find two tones that beautifully compliment each other and also sound unique.
Just did a track where I blended the 5150 Blockletter in Archetype Nolly with the Diezel Herbert in Lasse Lammert Tonality and it's ridiculously awesome 👌
I’m using the simplifier DLX in parallel mode, so it’s turning one input into two outputs. Sounds absolutely huge
I draw so much inspiration from this insane mix being done all in the box. Let's go!
When Erra Self Titled came out, it blow me up how wide, rich and layered it sounds. It felt like the music was in 3D, it was incredible. I've never been more amazed by a mix, even tho I already liked their mixing on LMTF album for exemple.
It sounds so pleasing to the ear, its a really really nice mix NODE by Northlane ofc that mix reminds me of Erra Self Titled, lets not forget Jinjers mixes, that sound so damn natural and raw. But yeh i hear you on the 3Dness of Self Titled Erra, it envelops you into itself. I highly recommend jamming it on tidal or something that doesnt compress the sound
@@ZepyhrLight I agree, I am less into natural and raw mixing (I still like Lance Prenc mixes or last Whitechapel album in that tone) but I'm love highly processed mixes (I guess this is because I grew up with Joey Sturgis mixes) so that Erra mix is absolutely gorgeous to me
@@str1897 the erra mix doesn't sound super processed to me , XD on another note aw come on tho what about Jinjers way of doing things, those mixes sound fucking raw because THEY ARE RAW 🤣 I'm working with the raw mix files for their song on the top and man it's absolutely ridiculous how clean it sounds without doing a single thing 😂
how does one get a guitar recording as punchy and clear as this? like in 2:10 for example it almost sounds robotic how clear each pick is
Editing every note to the grid.
Or a very tight player and noise gate.
@@BigMetalDaddy1301 if that's what you want to believe, good for you
@@destinos1990 It's more of a wish, since I believe that editing everything to the grid often kills the vibe - which didn't happen here. Their music is awesome.
If you look back on the URM channel there’s a video where they talk about guitar tracking for an ABR track that breaks down the process!
great stuff! loved it
what IR did they use? I feel like this is the most important thing but they didn't mention it i think.
The profile in tonehub is amp+IR so you can’t change the IR unfortunately
Wich plugins/profiles were used to create the guitar sounds on Shadow Autonomous?
I honestly believe the proliferation of amp sims with these types of bands is not that they just sound good in a mix. It's the fact that they can edit the shit of the DI guitar track to line up every note. To my ears that's what they all end up sounding like. Edited to death and over processed.
Which cab amp do You use? 🤔
Wish I had the will power to model a Herbert and return it.. I would get to the returning part and fail..
pay someone 50 bucks to do it for you. Your sibling or kids or nephew or something like that
I guess anything Fortin is an instant win 🤣
Is this Carson Slovak of Century?
Can we know what guitar was used to track the songs?
It was a jackson 7 string retrofitted with an evertune, pretty sure it was one pf misha mansoors older sig models, I think black with a blue burst finish
Old comment, but other guy is wrong. This track was played on a ibanez 752lwfx with dimarzio d activators
This guitar tone sounds like absolute crap........ until its in with the entire mix.
This is the issue with most bedroom producers, they try to emulate what they THINK they hear from their favorite bands song, and their tone soloed sounds thick and full and perfect, but then it gets totally lost in the mix. This just shows that you can have a crunchy saturated bright almost thin sounding guitar, and then have a reallt full mix as a result. Its all about the low end of the kick and bass with the high end of the clanky bass amp, rooms and cymbals.
but is that really what bedroom producers do? the mixes people are doing at home are pretty sick these days
@@tusharjamwal no doubt many are solid. But many are lifeless muddy mixes where you can't hear or feel the low of the bass guitar, just the clangy upper mids cus Dingwall/Nolly is life, and the guitars are often beefy in the wrong way and wayyyy too loud in the mix. Thats my observation. One of the lost arts of the bedroom producer is the understanding that sending out tracks to be mixed is worth it. Too many kids mixing on laptops in their untreated corner of a room with massive speakers they dont need, and no real understanding of mixing. Very hit or miss.
"bedroom producers" LOOL dude u sound so mad. Musicians are literally some of the WORST gatekeepers.
@@TheCatalystOS whos gatekeeping? Im literally a bedroom producer. The point isnt not to do it... it point is people in the pasy 7-8 years were thrusted into DIY production with zero real experience in studios, while being bombarded by youtubers with just as little experience, trying to get clicks for giving out bad advice and "eq cheat sheets" which has caused a large amount of these kids to just straight up no understand how production and mixing works on a fundamental level. The only gatekeeper is youtubers pretending to be masters of a craft they have never actually done professionally, teaching kids bad habits that result in bad recordings sometimes.
@@voyantcreative dude i hate the dingwall craze so much
THANK YOU
What a killer riff. I mean seriously that riff just made me dead.
Ugh Joel yelling at me as soon as I pull up the video
Guitar ???? It's sounding like a vsti !
that's exactly what it sounds like Ample Metal Hellrazer
The machines have won
@@djsajrajtgutenberg4936 imagine using ample
am I the only one that thinks the gate on his mic is incredibly irritating
It sounds awesome, but screw that guy for returning the amp right after profiling it. What a moocher. It's because of people like that that music stores will inevitably go under.
Cope
Just sounds like midi.....
Sounds horrible
Agree
@@TheDistortionPrinciple do better
@@ZepyhrLight its not my job to do better.
@@TheDistortionPrinciple Because you can't. I don't get either of you this sounds fantastic 🤣
@End Of Age if I can or cannot has zero bearing on my opinion of this tone. Just like if you can or cant has zero bearing on your enjoyment of the tone