THE ACTUAL SECRET TO METAL GUITAR TONE w/ Wage War & Andrew Wade
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- Опубликовано: 22 ноя 2021
- The actual secret to amazing metal guitar tone? Get it right at the source! Andrew Wade demonstrates with the raw multi-tracks for "Stitch" by Wage War
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ANDREW WAGE MIXES "WAGE" BY WAGE WAGE
Andrew Wade is ALWAYS talking about guitar picks when recording, makes a difference.
Because it is totally true.
Many idiots focus on what EQ to use, and how much money to spend on hundreds of pedals, when the pick is the cheapest equalizer that every guitarist has at his disposal, although 90% ignore it completely.
It not only contributes to your tone, but also to improve your technique, and feel more comfortable when playing guitar.
That's a seriously crushing guitar tone.
I do the transient thing in dual-mono mode on my rhythm guitars bus! Makes it sound like it's being played a lil more aggressively.
I think that's the move if your edits are not exact, and the transients are in a little bit different places in both channels
Andrew certainly knows his stuff!!! Respect!
Man... the imager makes a huge difference to make guitars bigger... thank you so much for the helps sir
I felt like I had some talent on guitar until you started talking about how using a different pick can make a huge difference and now I feel like I know nothing
😅same here
Yep 😅😂
Me and a buddy were tracking a demo and literally went through 10-15 picks before finding 4 that we liked. Typically went for 1.0-1.5 thickness for rhythms with a good edge to it. The James Hetfield ones really stood out, as well as tortex sharps and prodigy picks.
@@larmerguitars 😅niice🤘
Yessir, the small details are critical since they all add up to create the overall feel of the mix. Sharp picks usually best for rhythm, rounded usually best for solos so you get a smooth attack. Light picks usually best on bass for a more even level
Wage War* guys, not Wage Wage ;)
w/ Wage Wage and Andrew Wage :D
@@david_hstg ikr hahaha
I learned the pick thing by buying several different kinds and brands - some of the easiest to play with (Dunlop Petrucci Jazz III, Andy James Flow 2.0, Swisspicks 2.0 Nuclear Cheddar) also rounded off the pick attack too much.
The harder to use (for me) Dunlop Tortex Sharp (any thickness) and Swisspicks' thinner Sharp Cheddar picks had an awesome addition to the tone with a scrape & click kind of texture.
Agree, with the sharp ones. I had the ultex sharps and although I love the attack of the ultex picks, I think the shape didn't make it for me, I struggled with string skipping kind of things
Sick tips and insight man! Thank you!
When I try to open the ultimate guitar page it gives me an AVID error message and its a 404 page. Is there a real link somewhere or is it discontinued?
Did he mentioned, what Kemper profile (amp model) they ended up choosing, instead of the original recorded tracks?
Does he ever mention which Kemper profile he “re amped” the DI through?
Does anyone know what the effect ok the lead guitar section at rhe stary of rhe song is, the washy sounding one
Jazz picks are sick, but special ordering the TORTEX jazz III is the move. Been using the sharp tortex jazz III’s for ever now. Never going back to the red/black jazz III’s.
Same here. Funny thing is, I’m a bass player. When I’m using a pick, it’s the Sharp Jazz Tortex.
Every single player I've recommended these to have adopted them
They're the perfect material with the perfect shape for aggressive playing
All the benefits of the J3, with none of the grip issues for sure
Switched to the tortex picks years ago and I still remember going through so many packs of them because friends would always pocket them or ask for a few during jams. They're great picks and I only know one person that doesn't currently use them.
Another pick that has been a game changer for me is the Ultex Jazz III but the black one. Makes the cleans on a Hellraiser sound like they are played on a 4000$ guitar.
Yeah basically every Jazz III shaped pick with Tortex/Ultex sharp edges is a perfect one
I went to luthery school (guitar building) and they told me a 300 dollar guitar with a professional/correct setup will play (dare I say sound?) better than a 3000 dollar guitar with a bad setup!
Hahah I love using the tortex medium orange guitar picks for metal...they have just that LITTLE amount of give/bend to them
quick question, why does he have 4 guitar tracks? are the DI signal just the plain guitar track without any effect?
Wage "WAR". amazing video BTW, sick tone
I have also heard that it's helpful to only make EQ changes to the guitar in the context of the mix. Dimebag darrell would only EQ his guitar in the studio around his drummer vinnie pauls drum tracks playing.
fax but some a little pre-EQ on the DI can go a long way with amp sims.
The pick makes a huge difference
Now the last wish I have is to see how I prevail achieved their guitar tone on Gasoline...
I am so thankful for this video!
I have joined nail the mix just for this coarse I can’t find it on urm… for the love of GOD can someone steer me in the right direction!!!
"Little tedious... but it does the job." damn right
I found a mixer with the same mic preamps as the mixer dimebag darrel used to get the guitar tone right on Panteras GREAT SOUTHERN TRENDKILL, the one in the studio just wasn't right so he went home and got his cheap mixer from home and it sounded F****ING amazing, and OMG it made my tone so much better. HAHA and it's so great to see him using Ozone Multiband Imager on the tone too is so funny I use that same thing and it drastically improves the sound of my guitars!
I’m late to this mosh but incidentally what mixer was it? I have old 90s mixers and 4 Tracks (most Need repairs) but love them. Just curious thanks man!
did andrew wade made guitar IR ?
wom bom bom bom bom! thanks dude!
That bass makes those guitars sound mean af
The transient thing with the Waves plugin is sick. Would any other transient designer do the same thing?
any transient designer where you can set some kind of duration/attack/release. a compressor could probably do a similar thing
It depends. What this does is accentuating the transients in a dynamic way
Andrew is funny without trying to be funny, i love this guy! fat tone brother
Kind of another point that the tone by itself might sound weird or kinda shitty, but smashes in the mix. Would have liked to hear the original guitar tracks for reference. But wait a minute, little red jazz pick? With rounded edges? And a tortex with SHARP edges? Now I know you're putting me on...Great show, thanks!
Typo in the video title chaps :)
Glad to finally find out the widener is what I always hated about the guitar tone this album.
Are guitar picks a highly sought after commodity where you don't have any? Why not just have a pile of new picks laying around?
awesome
Is widener sidechained?
Widening isn't a dynamic effect. How would you sidechain it?
Automate the intensity to follow an envelope curve? That's actually a crazy idea that I'm intrigued by now.
metal picks for metal tones obviously
All the jazz pick players have just started crying
those waves SSL EQ (both the G console and E console) plugins sound so good too, The G console actually adds a tiny boost notch ahead of whatever cuts you make, which is a really unique color and feature of that particular (G console) console EQ thats lesser known, but sounds amazing as well.
It forces you to mix with your ears instead of your eyes vs. a graphic EQ
Show the amp and cab settings next time and describe why you chose them. “GIRATS” includes your amp settings and cab micing. If it’s all digital, we need to know those settings all the same, so we can understand how they are interacting with the post-processing you have chosen.
4:00 sounds like he had given him the PICK OF DESTINY from the movieof same title ;o)
you can’t go wrong with dunlop jazz iii max grip black stiffo for fast riffs. very chuggggh
Never realized you can copy/ paste automation😶
lol
Perhaps it was the way he was utilizing the pick and not the pick itself.
He says "Even though Cody is fantastic, that tiny difference in gear made a huge difference". I'm gonna argue that if he wasn't already fantastic, that little difference would not matter at all. It is because he already is a solid player that this minute difference between two picks was as clear as it was. Put those two picks in the hands of a less capable player and I presume it would never make that huge of a difference as it did with him. That being said, every detail matters and he is 100% right for changing the picks out.
The pick makes the same difference to any guitarist, no matter what their skills, just because of the shape, material, rounded edges and other variables, they change the tone radically.
Many idiots focus on what EQ to use and how much money to spend on hundreds of pedals, when the pick is the cheapest equalizer that every guitarist has at his disposal, although 90% ignore it completely.
It not only contributes to your tone, but also to improve your technique and feel more comfortable when playing guitar.
@@butcher_0392 eh, it depends. Some guitarist just can't play the same with different picks. As a guitarist myself I use Jazz III only, I tried different ones of similar shape and thickness with all sorts of different type of edges and my play is affected by each pick because, like you said, they are very different.
In my case I'd rather use a pick I'm comfortable with and get the best take I can at the best of my capability and EQ the DI rather than use a pick that I'm not comfortable with and end up with a take that isn't as good. You can use plugins to enhance the transient attack directly on the DI and/or after the distortion and get similar results.
Playing with the gear you're most comfortable with is better than forcing yourself to use something that affects your ability to play at your best, even if "it sounds better".
@@Alex-dr6or
I think you did not understand what I meant.
* I say is that the pick is one of the things that 99% of guitarists ignore the most, and in reality it is the cheapest equalizer that exists, also depending on the thickness it helps clarity, attack, definition and Tight low end without investing in nothing else.
Many idiots make a big deal out of the big lie "OF THE WOOD" and its influence on the final recorded tone, when even the difference between a new set of strings vs. a used one, is much greater than a guitar made of mahogany vs. alder.cheers
Wage wage? 😏
The person who uploads the RUclips videos has made a legacy to mess up the titles. The mistake is now the running joke. Petition to retrofit all the previous videos to wrong title names
shiiit I recorded everything with jazz picks😶have to switch immediately
I think he's discussing ultex vs tortex more than anything here.
Medium thickness tortex results in such a better pick attack than any other material imo
@@dewey1202 I never thought about that... I just talked to a guitarist and he said that the hardness of the pick doesn't matter as you compensate with grip tightness anyways. What do you think?
@@mazetoeden9334 you never want to squeeze your pick or grip it too tightly. Bad form. What does matter is the pick angle though, and a 45 degree pick attack can make the shittiest of picks have a bit more bite but rounded picks won't have as crisp of a pick attack. Some people like the sound of other materials but myself and many others think tortex is simply the best
@@mazetoeden9334 hardness absolutely does matter though. Take light and heavy picks of the same material and compare. If you think a .88 and a 1.0 sound the same then ya need your ears checked ;)
@@dewey1202 😅haha awesome, will do thanks
yea thats cool and all but it has nothing on morticians master crafted tone
Everyone knows that the best metal tone is achieved by running an hm2 into a metal zone into a gorilla 15w 6" combo
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