THE ACTUAL SECRET TO METAL GUITAR TONE w/ Wage War & Andrew Wade

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  • Опубликовано: 29 ноя 2024

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  • @DomasBanevicius
    @DomasBanevicius 3 года назад +44

    ANDREW WAGE MIXES "WAGE" BY WAGE WAGE

  • @landrysaathoff2418
    @landrysaathoff2418 3 года назад +80

    Andrew Wade is ALWAYS talking about guitar picks when recording, makes a difference.

    • @butcher_0392
      @butcher_0392 2 года назад +7

      Because it is totally true.
      Many idiots focus on what EQ to use, and how much money to spend on hundreds of pedals, when the pick is the cheapest equalizer that every guitarist has at his disposal, although 90% ignore it completely.
      It not only contributes to your tone, but also to improve your technique, and feel more comfortable when playing guitar.

  • @buzz_cooksey
    @buzz_cooksey 3 года назад +22

    I do the transient thing in dual-mono mode on my rhythm guitars bus! Makes it sound like it's being played a lil more aggressively.

    • @djentlover
      @djentlover 3 года назад +1

      I think that's the move if your edits are not exact, and the transients are in a little bit different places in both channels

  • @eddiejackson1566
    @eddiejackson1566 3 года назад +43

    I felt like I had some talent on guitar until you started talking about how using a different pick can make a huge difference and now I feel like I know nothing

    • @mazetoeden9334
      @mazetoeden9334 3 года назад +1

      😅same here

    • @Mep9797
      @Mep9797 3 года назад

      Yep 😅😂

    • @larmerguitars
      @larmerguitars 2 года назад

      Me and a buddy were tracking a demo and literally went through 10-15 picks before finding 4 that we liked. Typically went for 1.0-1.5 thickness for rhythms with a good edge to it. The James Hetfield ones really stood out, as well as tortex sharps and prodigy picks.

    • @mazetoeden9334
      @mazetoeden9334 2 года назад

      @@larmerguitars 😅niice🤘

    • @jasongreen5360
      @jasongreen5360 2 года назад +5

      Yessir, the small details are critical since they all add up to create the overall feel of the mix. Sharp picks usually best for rhythm, rounded usually best for solos so you get a smooth attack. Light picks usually best on bass for a more even level

  • @nj1255
    @nj1255 3 года назад +7

    That's a seriously crushing guitar tone.

  • @EulogyfortheAngels
    @EulogyfortheAngels 3 года назад +16

    I learned the pick thing by buying several different kinds and brands - some of the easiest to play with (Dunlop Petrucci Jazz III, Andy James Flow 2.0, Swisspicks 2.0 Nuclear Cheddar) also rounded off the pick attack too much.
    The harder to use (for me) Dunlop Tortex Sharp (any thickness) and Swisspicks' thinner Sharp Cheddar picks had an awesome addition to the tone with a scrape & click kind of texture.

    • @SantyShatterer
      @SantyShatterer 2 года назад

      Agree, with the sharp ones. I had the ultex sharps and although I love the attack of the ultex picks, I think the shape didn't make it for me, I struggled with string skipping kind of things

  • @Shred_Rocket
    @Shred_Rocket 3 года назад +12

    Andrew certainly knows his stuff!!! Respect!

  • @RenanBEreanSound
    @RenanBEreanSound 3 года назад +4

    Man... the imager makes a huge difference to make guitars bigger... thank you so much for the helps sir

  • @Kannonify
    @Kannonify 3 года назад +22

    Wage War* guys, not Wage Wage ;)

    • @david_hstg
      @david_hstg 3 года назад +11

      w/ Wage Wage and Andrew Wage :D

    • @Kannonify
      @Kannonify 3 года назад +1

      @@david_hstg ikr hahaha

  • @snapascrew
    @snapascrew 3 года назад +22

    Jazz picks are sick, but special ordering the TORTEX jazz III is the move. Been using the sharp tortex jazz III’s for ever now. Never going back to the red/black jazz III’s.

    • @M.Holland
      @M.Holland 3 года назад +1

      Same here. Funny thing is, I’m a bass player. When I’m using a pick, it’s the Sharp Jazz Tortex.

    • @theozamparo
      @theozamparo 3 года назад

      Every single player I've recommended these to have adopted them
      They're the perfect material with the perfect shape for aggressive playing

    • @matthewcuccurese9257
      @matthewcuccurese9257 3 года назад

      All the benefits of the J3, with none of the grip issues for sure

    • @arbyscurlyfries9490
      @arbyscurlyfries9490 2 года назад

      Switched to the tortex picks years ago and I still remember going through so many packs of them because friends would always pocket them or ask for a few during jams. They're great picks and I only know one person that doesn't currently use them.

  • @johnmemos695
    @johnmemos695 3 года назад +10

    Another pick that has been a game changer for me is the Ultex Jazz III but the black one. Makes the cleans on a Hellraiser sound like they are played on a 4000$ guitar.

    • @theozamparo
      @theozamparo 3 года назад +1

      Yeah basically every Jazz III shaped pick with Tortex/Ultex sharp edges is a perfect one

    • @norwardradtke1361
      @norwardradtke1361 2 года назад +1

      I went to luthery school (guitar building) and they told me a 300 dollar guitar with a professional/correct setup will play (dare I say sound?) better than a 3000 dollar guitar with a bad setup!

  • @norwardradtke1361
    @norwardradtke1361 2 года назад +3

    I have also heard that it's helpful to only make EQ changes to the guitar in the context of the mix. Dimebag darrell would only EQ his guitar in the studio around his drummer vinnie pauls drum tracks playing.

    • @Brewtalgaming
      @Brewtalgaming 6 месяцев назад

      fax but some a little pre-EQ on the DI can go a long way with amp sims.

  • @vanenev333
    @vanenev333 3 года назад +8

    Now the last wish I have is to see how I prevail achieved their guitar tone on Gasoline...
    I am so thankful for this video!

  • @darenwalker2517
    @darenwalker2517 2 года назад +1

    The pick makes a huge difference

  • @BrofUJu
    @BrofUJu 3 года назад +15

    The transient thing with the Waves plugin is sick. Would any other transient designer do the same thing?

    • @romansweik
      @romansweik 3 года назад +2

      any transient designer where you can set some kind of duration/attack/release. a compressor could probably do a similar thing

    • @federicogarufi479
      @federicogarufi479 3 года назад +1

      It depends. What this does is accentuating the transients in a dynamic way

  • @above-us-only-sky
    @above-us-only-sky 2 года назад +1

    Does he ever mention which Kemper profile he “re amped” the DI through?

  • @peaceittogetherstudios
    @peaceittogetherstudios 3 года назад

    "Little tedious... but it does the job." damn right

  • @lydfar2392
    @lydfar2392 3 года назад +1

    Did he mentioned, what Kemper profile (amp model) they ended up choosing, instead of the original recorded tracks?

  • @definitelynotjin
    @definitelynotjin Год назад

    quick question, why does he have 4 guitar tracks? are the DI signal just the plain guitar track without any effect?

  • @nerdexproject
    @nerdexproject 3 года назад +2

    Sick tips and insight man! Thank you!

  • @norwardradtke1361
    @norwardradtke1361 2 года назад +1

    I found a mixer with the same mic preamps as the mixer dimebag darrel used to get the guitar tone right on Panteras GREAT SOUTHERN TRENDKILL, the one in the studio just wasn't right so he went home and got his cheap mixer from home and it sounded F****ING amazing, and OMG it made my tone so much better. HAHA and it's so great to see him using Ozone Multiband Imager on the tone too is so funny I use that same thing and it drastically improves the sound of my guitars!

    • @infectedgoat7775
      @infectedgoat7775 Год назад

      I’m late to this mosh but incidentally what mixer was it? I have old 90s mixers and 4 Tracks (most Need repairs) but love them. Just curious thanks man!

  • @aiRxShop
    @aiRxShop 9 месяцев назад

    That bass makes those guitars sound mean af

  • @vedranbrijacak5038
    @vedranbrijacak5038 2 месяца назад

    Is there any alternative plugin to trans-x?

    • @vedranbrijacak5038
      @vedranbrijacak5038 2 месяца назад

      I kinda got closest behaviour with oeksound spiff on default setting. Without trying to recreate it with volume automation. 😊

  • @bobwarren4707
    @bobwarren4707 3 года назад +2

    When I try to open the ultimate guitar page it gives me an AVID error message and its a 404 page. Is there a real link somewhere or is it discontinued?

  • @norwardradtke1361
    @norwardradtke1361 2 года назад

    Hahah I love using the tortex medium orange guitar picks for metal...they have just that LITTLE amount of give/bend to them

  • @neonether
    @neonether 3 года назад +2

    Kind of another point that the tone by itself might sound weird or kinda shitty, but smashes in the mix. Would have liked to hear the original guitar tracks for reference. But wait a minute, little red jazz pick? With rounded edges? And a tortex with SHARP edges? Now I know you're putting me on...Great show, thanks!

  • @BagusWibisono
    @BagusWibisono 9 месяцев назад

    did andrew wade made guitar IR ?

  • @travisparry8033
    @travisparry8033 2 года назад

    Does anyone know what the effect ok the lead guitar section at rhe stary of rhe song is, the washy sounding one

  • @leonamongwolves
    @leonamongwolves 3 года назад +1

    Typo in the video title chaps :)

  • @kubbe2170
    @kubbe2170 3 года назад +1

    Wage "WAR". amazing video BTW, sick tone

  • @icanrawrtooMC
    @icanrawrtooMC Год назад

    metal picks for metal tones obviously

  • @Justwantpeacelove
    @Justwantpeacelove 2 года назад

    Andrew is funny without trying to be funny, i love this guy! fat tone brother

  • @EthanRom
    @EthanRom 2 года назад +1

    All the jazz pick players have just started crying

  • @RyRyTheBassGuy
    @RyRyTheBassGuy 4 месяца назад

    Glad to finally find out the widener is what I always hated about the guitar tone this album.

  • @mammothaudioengineering
    @mammothaudioengineering 3 года назад +11

    He says "Even though Cody is fantastic, that tiny difference in gear made a huge difference". I'm gonna argue that if he wasn't already fantastic, that little difference would not matter at all. It is because he already is a solid player that this minute difference between two picks was as clear as it was. Put those two picks in the hands of a less capable player and I presume it would never make that huge of a difference as it did with him. That being said, every detail matters and he is 100% right for changing the picks out.

    • @butcher_0392
      @butcher_0392 2 года назад

      The pick makes the same difference to any guitarist, no matter what their skills, just because of the shape, material, rounded edges and other variables, they change the tone radically.
      Many idiots focus on what EQ to use and how much money to spend on hundreds of pedals, when the pick is the cheapest equalizer that every guitarist has at his disposal, although 90% ignore it completely.
      It not only contributes to your tone, but also to improve your technique and feel more comfortable when playing guitar.

    • @Alex-dr6or
      @Alex-dr6or Год назад

      @@butcher_0392 eh, it depends. Some guitarist just can't play the same with different picks. As a guitarist myself I use Jazz III only, I tried different ones of similar shape and thickness with all sorts of different type of edges and my play is affected by each pick because, like you said, they are very different.
      In my case I'd rather use a pick I'm comfortable with and get the best take I can at the best of my capability and EQ the DI rather than use a pick that I'm not comfortable with and end up with a take that isn't as good. You can use plugins to enhance the transient attack directly on the DI and/or after the distortion and get similar results.
      Playing with the gear you're most comfortable with is better than forcing yourself to use something that affects your ability to play at your best, even if "it sounds better".

    • @butcher_0392
      @butcher_0392 Год назад

      @@Alex-dr6or
      I think you did not understand what I meant.
      * I say is that the pick is one of the things that 99% of guitarists ignore the most, and in reality it is the cheapest equalizer that exists, also depending on the thickness it helps clarity, attack, definition and Tight low end without investing in nothing else.
      Many idiots make a big deal out of the big lie "OF THE WOOD" and its influence on the final recorded tone, when even the difference between a new set of strings vs. a used one, is much greater than a guitar made of mahogany vs. alder.cheers

  • @evenform
    @evenform 3 года назад

    I have joined nail the mix just for this coarse I can’t find it on urm… for the love of GOD can someone steer me in the right direction!!!

  • @jeromesimon8916
    @jeromesimon8916 Год назад

    Is widener sidechained?

    • @djentlover
      @djentlover 5 месяцев назад

      Widening isn't a dynamic effect. How would you sidechain it?
      Automate the intensity to follow an envelope curve? That's actually a crazy idea that I'm intrigued by now.

  • @Emanuel.A.Torres
    @Emanuel.A.Torres 3 года назад

    wom bom bom bom bom! thanks dude!

  • @JeanPatton
    @JeanPatton 3 года назад

    awesome

  • @catobringas8637
    @catobringas8637 2 года назад +4

    Show the amp and cab settings next time and describe why you chose them. “GIRATS” includes your amp settings and cab micing. If it’s all digital, we need to know those settings all the same, so we can understand how they are interacting with the post-processing you have chosen.

  • @GearStuffandThings
    @GearStuffandThings 2 года назад

    Perhaps it was the way he was utilizing the pick and not the pick itself.

  • @brolsonmusic
    @brolsonmusic 3 года назад

    Are guitar picks a highly sought after commodity where you don't have any? Why not just have a pile of new picks laying around?

  • @RLDWEBER
    @RLDWEBER 2 года назад

    Never realized you can copy/ paste automation😶

  • @BagusWibisono
    @BagusWibisono Год назад

    you can’t go wrong with dunlop jazz iii max grip black stiffo for fast riffs. very chuggggh

  • @stianthijsen4784
    @stianthijsen4784 3 года назад +1

    4:00 sounds like he had given him the PICK OF DESTINY from the movieof same title ;o)

  • @sylzysylzerz7887
    @sylzysylzerz7887 14 дней назад

    Did He really struggle to figure out 3 X 1?

  • @norwardradtke1361
    @norwardradtke1361 2 года назад

    those waves SSL EQ (both the G console and E console) plugins sound so good too, The G console actually adds a tiny boost notch ahead of whatever cuts you make, which is a really unique color and feature of that particular (G console) console EQ thats lesser known, but sounds amazing as well.

    • @norwardradtke1361
      @norwardradtke1361 2 года назад

      It forces you to mix with your ears instead of your eyes vs. a graphic EQ

  • @jeremiahculver2776
    @jeremiahculver2776 3 года назад

    The person who uploads the RUclips videos has made a legacy to mess up the titles. The mistake is now the running joke. Petition to retrofit all the previous videos to wrong title names

  • @brandenstapleton9641
    @brandenstapleton9641 3 года назад +1

    yea thats cool and all but it has nothing on morticians master crafted tone

  • @captainconvulsion
    @captainconvulsion 3 года назад

    Wage wage? 😏

  • @mcbarfson
    @mcbarfson Год назад

    Everyone knows that the best metal tone is achieved by running an hm2 into a metal zone into a gorilla 15w 6" combo

  • @mazetoeden9334
    @mazetoeden9334 3 года назад +1

    shiiit I recorded everything with jazz picks😶have to switch immediately

    • @dewey1202
      @dewey1202 3 года назад

      I think he's discussing ultex vs tortex more than anything here.
      Medium thickness tortex results in such a better pick attack than any other material imo

    • @mazetoeden9334
      @mazetoeden9334 3 года назад

      @@dewey1202 I never thought about that... I just talked to a guitarist and he said that the hardness of the pick doesn't matter as you compensate with grip tightness anyways. What do you think?

    • @dewey1202
      @dewey1202 3 года назад

      @@mazetoeden9334 you never want to squeeze your pick or grip it too tightly. Bad form. What does matter is the pick angle though, and a 45 degree pick attack can make the shittiest of picks have a bit more bite but rounded picks won't have as crisp of a pick attack. Some people like the sound of other materials but myself and many others think tortex is simply the best

    • @dewey1202
      @dewey1202 3 года назад

      @@mazetoeden9334 hardness absolutely does matter though. Take light and heavy picks of the same material and compare. If you think a .88 and a 1.0 sound the same then ya need your ears checked ;)

    • @mazetoeden9334
      @mazetoeden9334 3 года назад

      @@dewey1202 😅haha awesome, will do thanks

  • @Anerisian
    @Anerisian Год назад

    “How to create the stereotypical generic guitar sound everyone is using”