Still wrong because "world" is more in reference to a "specific region" that a certain mythology covers symbolically. Atlas dropping the world is more in reference to the destruction of the region Greek mythology took place in more specifically southern Europe throughout the Mediterranean into Persia. Norse mythology is northern Europe, Eastern Europe, Western Russia, Iceland and arguably Northern Canada potentially into most of the Arctic/Tundra of the northern hemisphere.
@@dannyxxboii8838 after watching this video I question this guys intelligence and ego. Calling it a fact when he is clearly the one misinterpreting what was explained as one world separated by geography. Not hard to grasp that different regions of earth had different religions they worshipped
@@YoureTooEZ basically also let's not forget what throws many people off is Norse mythology has multiple realms within their specific "Regional Realm" 💯
That’s exactly what it is. That’s exactly what Cory said at GDC. ALL the pantheons exist on the planet concurrently and are only separated by GEOGRAPHY. His exact words.
Let me summarize: remember that scene in “The Nightmare Before Christmas” where Jack finds the doors to other holiday worlds? And how they all share access to our world? That.
Important to point out that, during one of the boat conversations, Mimir suggests that Odin is interested in Kratos because he comes from a realm that Odin does not have control over. So yeah, its definitely canon that Kratos' realm is different.
@@FatalShotGG yes idk why people still argue about it, its a pretty simple concept that ties everything together and its backed by ingame lore and game director's statements
Imagine as he said that he follows with "I know this because I am *looks at camera* the God of War" then a live audience is shocked and loud murmurs occur.
When artreus says the world serpant stretch's around the entire world , kratos laughs and says unlikely because he's seen the world and that serpant isn't there
The director says that the Greeks see their “world” destroyed because their world is Greek centric meaning what I think is that kratos just destroyed Greece and not the world. And that explains why he’s in an untouched Scandinavia
@@rosdos100 What you are saying doesn’t make sense. How are there different creation stories and gods sharing the same powers/domains? They are in different realms/dimensions, end of story.
@@SurveyorStudios The director explains it. The Greeks see their world as just their own area, norway sees it the same way as they're obviously not geographically close
@@rosdos100 So is Atlas holding up the earth or just Greece? I dont know, the same planet theory allows for inconsistencies like this. Theres already a precedent set with different realms and parallel universes so.
@@SurveyorStudios I understand what you're saying and that's why i said what i said, maybe it is just greece because the greeks thought the world revolved around them.
That was partially the original plan for GoWIII, Kratos would kill the greek gods at the beginning, then the other patheons would show up to try to dominate take control, which would include Norse, Egyptian and Hindu gods. Honestly, it would be too much, old GoW games already did a crap job in showing off Greek gods, since most have little characterization and explanation of who they are, putting 3 other patheons in the same game would make it so they would be even worse.
I totally believe it’s parallel dimensions, cohesively resting on the shoulders of each other, harmoniously. I mean the Norse “Bifrost” shows us that it’s already possible in the Norse creation, which is why Kratos continues to say of Ragnorok: “it doesn’t concern them” because he’s already seen the downfall of a complete pantheon (of his own doing) & knows there IS an “outside the realm”.
Wrong. Barlog litteraly says they are separated by geography. The universe (in the Hubble pic) is the world, the galaxies are the mythologies. They are local like countries on the planet. Galaxies are not in another dimension, we can see them.
@@waynec38 In the God of War book it’s said that Kratos was actually dragged to Midgard by the 3 great wolves (fenris and the other 2) and someone covered in a cloak. That was like 70 or so year before the game.
Yo... When atreus says the world serpent is wrapped around the world kratos says that it is an exaggeration, the could be true for atlas holding the world, it could be only the greek part, like a continental plate or something. When kratos kills helios the sun isn't gone what actually happens is clouds covering the sky, by the end of the third game the sun is at the horizon so you can see it's not the whole world covered with clouds! And also, Mimir says "i already knew you were greek" meaning there is a place called greece, not a galaxy. I believe the creation of the world are also legends not literal events, so maybe it is in the same planet!
The issue of the sun is not the covering of clouds, it the multiple gods who have to share them, like i said in the video mimir does pose a small problem. But you cant deny what cory says in the video
Kaptain Kuba well, different places on earth have different weather and climates so it might not be that different gods have to “share” the sun, but just control how the weather impacts the sun’s effects in those regions.
@@miiketookit Cory has already compared the pantheons to going to another country, but instead it's more the pantheons are separated by dimensions, which is how the Primordials made the Greek version of the Universe and Ymir made the Norse Universe, each mythical story and creation still happened, in an interview 2 dev's say you could get to the Egyptian version of Alfheim which wouldn't be true if there was not a full version of the planet but just the Norse area. Pretty confusing, but each God and Titan still controls their own element or area.
Evol_253kッ smh, tyr traveled to other realms(regions) by boat. Nothing to do with space. This guy who made the video just didn’t understand what Cory was trying to explain when it came too how the god of war universe works.
My idea of how it worked was that the Greek world, and the Greek Pantheon was just another realm, like the same as Asgard is to Midgard, but on an even larger scale. I almost imagined that these 9 realms existed in Norse mythology because they were easy to travel in between, but travelling to entire other dimension (another version of the world with an entirely different pantheon) was a much larger task.
This is exactly what I was thinking. Another thing to consider is that they must explain it in the next game it they are to travel to a different mythology, and I find it will be much easier to explain travelling through realms which is already established than to show kratos and atreus flying through galaxies.
So even if kratos is done with this realm, he’s still got at least two more to go to according to the tyr panel. Man I might not even be alive by then.
I don't think they'll do all of them. Greek and Norse gods are the most well known...you might just be able to do Egyptian god's but anymore after that and you're risking burnout.
One think people forget so much is when you get the Unity stone for the first time ever Mimir was shocked that it existed and it explained how Tyr was able to visit all the realms and other mythologies
Before watching the video, I theorize that each and every pantheon themselves are stuck inside pocket dimensions inside a single world where all they're origin stories only affects the pocket dimension they're in
I hope we get to wield the Mjolnir as well. Or if not just give us an epic cutscene with Kratos using it to defeat the god of thunder with his own hammer then destroy it in the process.
Here is your explanation: "Cory Barlog hinted in an interview with IGN how Kratos got to Norse world. Basically, God's in the GoWverse are not planetary governing beings. The Greek/Roman God's ruled over their respective lands while God's of other lands rule over their respective lands. So in the GoWverse, there are multiple afterlife's that you go to depending on where you're from and what God's hold dominion over your land, multiple God's of the sea with I presume select sea God's ruling over parts of the ocean closest to themselves, etc. Basically, all Kratos did to get to Scandanavia is he literally left Greece and traveled across Europe until he came into lands ruled by the Norse God's. Midgard and the land where Kratos came from are from the same planet, we never actually see the scope of destruction in GoW3 outside of the immediate vicinity of Athens and around Mount Olympus and most mythologies aren't told from a perspective of the world at large but only the limited geographical scope of the people who wrote the myths. This means all Kratos would have to do to encounter the Eygptian God's is to travel to Egypt and to encounter the Shinto God's he would simply need to travel to Japan. This makes things a bit more underwhelming, but killing the Greek pantheon didn't throw the entire planet into an Apacolypse, only the land of Greece. The lands governed by other God's weren't thrown into chaos as they have their own afterlife, sun god, sea god, etc."
Miyazaki Fanboy Hurr Durr finally it seemed so likely that they are just different lands and the serpent spans like all of Scandinavia. but apparently it’s more likely that the Vikings god and Greek god live on different planets the same as earth in every way except different gods. if they to some “infinite worlds” shit with GOW I’ll be so pissed it’s just a cop out for shit writing
An Internet User what dimensions travelling unless you mean the different realms in new game but that’s explained as there all there at once in the same physical space not like dimensions stuff I know there was time travel in like end of 2-3 but different universes would be so unsatisfying Imo
@@smiff513 Did you and OP even see the video? It's basically confirmed that it's different Earths from different far away places in space. Also, your first reply doesn't make any sense, first you say that it's different Earths with different Gods, then you go now to say that *IF* it turns out to be infinite worlds then that's a cop out.
Space Pope i didn’t day it was infinite worlds i meant that multiple earths the same but with different gods is essentially infinite worlds and I would be disappointed by that
If they ever needed to make a spin off kratos going from 3 to 4 would be a solid story. I think they have a shared world, but I they are separated magically, meaning you can only affect another place by traveling to it physically, so if one world ends that's all that happens it ends, the others remain unaffected
Also Cory Barlog: "I see all mythologies as creation stories of different cultures throughout the world. All of them exist from the beginning of time until now, they are just separated by geography. The Mayan creation story is happening at the same time as the Greek creation story, and all these mythologies exist on one planet together." Key words: world, geography, planet. Freya acknowledging Kratos hailing from a different realm actually serves the opposite purpose of proving he's from a different galaxy. The literal definition of realm can either be "a primary biogeographical division of the earth's surface," or "a field or domain of activity or interest." Mortals perceive each mythos encompassing the entirety of the world due to their limited knowledge, while Gods like Kratos and Mimir understand its fallacy. Mimir recognizes their location as the northern part of the planet, and Kratos is in disbelieve Jormungandr encircles the world. As a soft-reboot, GoW2018 retconned what was originally meant to be the Greek pantheon responsible for the origin of the universe, to each pantheon responsible for the origin of their respective country. So your poll results were actually on the nose.
There's just so much contradictory evidence for this train of thought, it would have been much simpler for him to just say it's different dimensions on top of one another. It's not hard to imagine Greece just being another realm that is now destroyed, sort of like how Mortal Kombat treats its realms. But to try to say they're all geographically located on the same planet and just accept all the bizarre physical impossibilities that go along with that is stupid almost beyond comprehension.
Freya could have meant anything from a small ant to a big whale. By the statement "ik enough" and with "not of this realm" because she was the literal wife of Odin and she would know all of the gods plus she knows vanir/dark magic.
I have one thing to say to this.... what is one of the first things baldur says to kratos? "You never should have come to midgard" as if greece isnt apart of midgard at all
@@thekommunistkrusader3921 that's because Baldur thought Kratos was the giant that Odin sent him after, when it turns out it was Faye. So he was referring to Jotunheim
When Atreus asks the head how did oden know “where we were going”. The head adds that oden is a collector of prophecy. Oden does this for control. The head then says “oden would like to control everything from the realms, lands and worlds”. Letting us know that all three are different.
Limitless but Midgard is a realm, and Greece is obviously a different ‘realm’ from Midgard. Since realm is just another way of saying kingdom, or domain, it’s too broad to be used exclusively to describe only countries or dimensions
Kensei Hayabusa She cant have meant that Kratos is from one of the nordic realms. If he was, she must have known about him in some way or even met him in one of the realms. She can only mean it the View of „different Galaxies“ thing
No he’s saying that the pantheons are separated geographically meaning the people of each pantheon don’t know that other land outside of their own exist.
@@AngelsbytheNumbers just because you are separated geographically doesnt mean that they wont know something is out there. I am separated from spain that doesnt mean I dont know it exists, or that someone can travel there tell me about it etc. Also how can they not "know· you have odin who is a mad man of power and never crossed his mind to go to other "lands" so he like other gods in other pantheons none of them with the abilities and powers they have their reach never bother to go to other places. ??.
I have a real good suspicion that we will find out somehow eventually that the Valks brought Kratos to the 9 realms, it's mentioned in GOW that the Valks search for fallen warriors to fight during Ragnarok and Kratos emphasizes the part where Mimir says "any battle" as if he is surprised to hear that, I would bet GOOD money that Tyr sent Valks to find Kratos after his battle with Zeus and after Athena pulls the blade of Olympus from his body and he was born anew in the 9 realms, not physically born anew but metaphorically, brought by the Valks and "given" another chance to make amends with his own torment and a chance to forget.
I believe it to simply be a different realm. Just like jotenheim, and muslhspheim etc. They exist upon each other in different spaces. Similar to how dwarfs travel
What he said at the interview was super easy to understand that he meant that Greece was seen as its own little world because they didn't know what lied beyond the seas, so kratos sailed, this dude goes way beyond the meaning of what he said in that interview
@@cheezyblaztoyzeswet2674 It being the same planet causes a lot of inconsistencies and continuity errors. Kratos literally killed Gaia(kinda the earth itself in a weird way), Poseidon(the ocean), Helios(the sun), Hera(plants), and many other miscellaneous deities. The world completely fell apart. It doesn’t make any logical sense for the gods Kratos killed to be sharing the world with the Norse ones. Not only would the Norse gods be confused as hell about why their world is falling apart, but Zeus’ and Thor’s pretentious asses would’ve been starting a war every time lightning struck lol
@@justaperson9995 they're very far in-between, just take jorgmungandr as example, it's gigantic but only spams through all scandinavia. Consider the distance between greece and finland, no way gods would even acknowledge the existence of other pantheons, they have problem enough on their respective realms. Also gaia was the world for Greece, that's not hard to understand. The apocalypse thing on gow 3 was just Greece-wide
Well it's pretty easy to understand that there's a multiverse and Tyr found the way not only to travel across them, but also shared knowledge with other war gods, i.e. Tyr had to know Ares and other war gods.
"The boat's captain key" treasure map quest completely shits on your theory, it says in the quest text that a man saild and crashed in Norse land after his captain was swallowed by the hydra referring to the first game's first boss.
@Bruh Nation Unless, it’s Cipactli that the true enemy; and it’s strength was enough to force Quetzalcoatl to seek help from other Gods across the Cosmos; and finds Kratos and beg him for assistance. After all, Cipactli was a monster that made Ometeotl, the Supreme Deity & God of Duality, retreat back to its shield.
@@whathell6t It would be cool if Kratos would have to travel Mictlan, but that would be repetitive. Or at least that Quetzalcoatl would help Kratos in some way. Apart from that, I would want to see Huitzilopochtli and other powerful gods like Mictlantecuhtli, Tonatiuh, Xolotl, Tezcatlipoca, and Tlaloc.
I am surprised how much selective hearing is helping this video. Cory says the universe of the mythologies is the world(Earth). Making this video totally invalid.
@@РадославШолев He say each Ideology live on the same world but in it's own galaxy, places or geographic problably what it means is that in one earth Greece is everywhere in that place while in the other Midgard exist but not greece and the only way to get there is troo a portal like when the war between the Asgardian and the Vanir Gods happen so it does make sense. Because the Asgardians have their own planet while the Vanir have their and we call it realms but they have entire galaxies as well as us.
Kaptain Kuba he could be right tho.. the original god of war 3 ending was supposed to be all the mythologies fighting each other and the birth of Christ
The dude in the clip of the speech you posted, he literally said people thought that kratos destroyed the world, but he destroyed greece, which was their perspective of what the world was. Basically that all the gods and people saw all of greece as "the world" because that's as far as the greek religion extends. Kratos sailed from greece another land where they had another religion. You're also forgetting about the fractured timeline. Jorgunmander has already met atreus, and tells mimir that hes familiar, because hes already experienced ragnorak. Jorgunmander has been thrown back in time, so it's possible that Zeus and jorgunmander were never in the same timeline, or even that the greek gods never went beyond the confines of greece. Also, Mimir doesn't say the GREEK pantheon. He said "I heard what happened at the pantheon" so the greek gods are on mount Olympus and the norse gods are in asgard. The titans could be jotun. Because odin and Zeus have very similar birth stories and the world being built by priomrdials. When kratos jumps off the world tree, hes in a mirrored world because when entering the temple afterwards, its upside down. It's possible that with the jotun magic, Tyr was able to be unseen by the gods of the lands he traveled to, and since the jotun were gone, only tyr could do it.
Yea i think he misunderstood what the dev was saying about the galaxies, it was simply a metaphor comparing it to the world, not literally saying they’re all galaxies lol.
I just hope they make another game where Kratos causes ragnarok to happen, then the third game is ragnarok and all the fun associated. Then maybe after that good ole Kratos can travel the “the desert land with lots of gods” and they hinted to in Tyrs vault
Truthfully I feel like kratos is either Odin himself due to the wooden doll of atreus and kratos, but the kratos one has an eye patch, and that Odin's ultimate fate is to be thrown into another time, to kill Zeus, to come all the way back to Scandinavia, to have atreus and cause ragnarok. OR kratos does and odin gets atreus since Odin in mythology, ADOPTED Loki. It's possible that kratos dies and Odin takes atreus, or that odin and kratos are in fact the same person, and after ragnarok, kratos and atreus live out their days as odin and Loki. Or Odin's fate is to die, because he finds out odin is kratos, and he chooses to be kratos, "the end of odin"
Kaptain Kuba so that explains why they haven’t heard of the Greek mythology cuz there trapped in there own world.. but sure as hell all the gods dying and causing all those nuclear type explosions the other mythologies wouldn’t feel the tremble if there deaths.. but I still don’t get if Kratos released hope did he release it to all other mythologies or just Greek?
KingCN M it’s kinda like how Charon has a boat and Kratos needed to get to Elysium but only way to get there was by boat.. which was the only way to travel there.. maybe it’s the same way for traveling to other realms
The first symbol you showed wasn’t a compass. It is called Aegishjalmur, Vikings often wore it in medallions. All the symbols surrounding it are ancient runes that represent different values each. Vikings used to believe that I gave you fortune and good luck, specially in battle. Nice video by the way :)
You could explain Mimir through the fact Similar Pantheons are closer to one another. So Norse and Celtic are perhaps close and Mimir did exactly as he said. Traveled north from his homeland (Scotland) and eventually arriving on the shores of Midgard.
I'll give u a hint. The ancient worlds of mythology are built on a flat earth cosmology. So it makes more sense when u think of it that way .out space in there perspective is just water so cretos came by boat
It wasn't hard for me to understand the "shared" mytologies, I mean, just by moving around the realms of Yggdrasil it was easy for me to understand that other realms from other mytologies were accessed in kind of the same way, I don't see them as galaxies, nor as the same planet, I see them more like Yggdrasil itself, a bunch of mitologies coexisting in the same universe, separeted by magic doors or something like that. So, for me, the Greek realm is totally destroyed, but the others are still intact (kinda).
In tyrs temple there is a mural of Tyr visiting the Greeks. A moon is in the sky, but there is just an empty space, and no sun where it should be. Tyr is giving the Greeks a device that looks a lot like the blue and yellow switches you use throughout the game, with a sun and moon depicted on it. Ergo, Tyr visited the Greek realm after Kratos killed Helios, and gave them a device to replace their lost sun. This also explains why in the Ragnarok trailer, Tyr is hostile towards Kratos and calls him a God killer and other insults- he's seen first hand the devastation Kratos left in his wake. The Greek realm is not totally destroyed- there are survivors, Athena even laments that they "will not know what to do with" the gift of hope Kratos gave them, which doubtless helps them to make it in their new post apocalyptic surrounds. Also, the depiction of Tyr in this mural shows him arriving by sailboat- I believe that the realms are far closer together than just distant galaxies, its more like a dimensional multiverse of realms coexisting in similar space- Mimir even says many people came to Tyrs temple to give him gifts, yet apparently only Tyr and Mimir had the giants gift of travel, and Tyrs temple does not exist outside the nine norse realms- therefore, all the people who came from far off lands to give Tyr gifts had to make their way physically. I believe its possible that the God of War universe is not a planet, but a plane. possibly infinitely large, considering Cory Barlog specifically said that what separates the realms was "vast amounts of geography" - and geography is one of the things space is famously lacking.
This is going into some high end theory but this is my thoughts. Each pantheon has a bubble of influence on the earth. While within that bubble the rules of that pantheon affect everything but only from within the context of that bubble. For instance Jörmungandr douse encircle the whole world but only from within the sphere of the Norse gods. Another way to think of it is like some optical illusions. You can only see the picture from a specific angle.
I just think of it as the gods are only powerful enough to influence their own countries and people. They aren't all powerful. Kratos is right when he says the gods overestimate themselves
Here is your explanation: "Cory Barlog hinted in an interview with IGN how Kratos got to Norse world. Basically, God's in the GoWverse are not planetary governing beings. The Greek/Roman God's ruled over their respective lands while God's of other lands rule over their respective lands. So in the GoWverse, there are multiple afterlife's that you go to depending on where you're from and what God's hold dominion over your land, multiple God's of the sea with I presume select sea God's ruling over parts of the ocean closest to themselves, etc. Basically, all Kratos did to get to Scandanavia is he literally left Greece and traveled across Europe until he came into lands ruled by the Norse God's. Midgard and the land where Kratos came from are from the same planet, we never actually see the scope of destruction in GoW3 outside of the immediate vicinity of Athens and around Mount Olympus and most mythologies aren't told from a perspective of the world at large but only the limited geographical scope of the people who wrote the myths. This means all Kratos would have to do to encounter the Eygptian God's is to travel to Egypt and to encounter the Shinto God's he would simply need to travel to Japan. This makes things a bit more underwhelming, but killing the Greek pantheon didn't throw the entire planet into an Apacolypse, only the land of Greece. The lands governed by other God's weren't thrown into chaos as they have their own afterlife, sun god, sea god, etc."
@@neildrunkmaam7040 yup, i agree with this one, in the conference itself, the creator confirmed it, it's about geography difference, they thought the world is only as far as they can see, never to look past it, so kratos was simply walk north until he found a new place.
There is one more thing that makes this true, you remember the part where Freya tells Kratos that in helheim no magic in all the realms can create a spark, but his blades can light ablaze? Simply its not part of any of the nordic realms, allowing to blaze away in Helheim
@@thealien_ali3382 Tyr travelled and brought back a lot of stuff. besides Mimir is pretty well informed, it is possible that Mimir knows that another realm containing a place called Greece with its own respective Gods exists.
@@darkraven4455 well he knew about zeus and tyr did meet lot of people around different regions, then again the Greek pantheon's are the ones that are truly immortal, they can't die unless it's one of there own kills them, even then they seem to return back, like the marvel counterparts, Ares has been killed so many times only to come back, whereas the Norse mythology they just live for a very long time and Eventually die
For all the people still not accepting the view here's Cory Barlog's Explanation word for word: All the MYTHOLOGIES of the WORLD are kinda like this hubble telescope Image. They are like GALAXIES SPREAD OUT through out a complete UNIVERSE and the WORLD is the UNIVERSE and all MYTHOLOGIES are sorta origin stories of various cultures through out the WORLD. Beginning at the beginning of time and STRETCHING all the way out, so at any given time all the MYTHOLOGIES exist together and currently and the are simply SEPARATED by GEOGRAPHY We have to let Cory Explain what he means and not bring our preconceived meanings. For him The World is the Universe, not part of the Universe. Its the Universe itself. Once you accept his meaning for the word WORLD the theory will make sense.
I have a theory that maybe, just maybe, the reason of why the different pantheons have not clashed in war for dominance or territory is because of something that goes way back to the time of the primordial gods. At some point, after everything was created from the "Primordial War", they made a peace treaty, and each of them got a piece of the world for themselves. But to prevent any type of territorial misunderstanding, they put a special barrier that separated each mythology, being that the reason why Odin and Zeus never met face to face, and Tyr was the only, or at least of the few who found a way to trespass that primordial barrier.
How kratos and mimir walked into norse mythology could be similar to thor dark world different worlds and the boundary between them overlaps in some places Then moves. And tyr found away of controlling the doors between worlds.
bro thats a nice theory but i think its wrong,cory seemed to use the world galaxies as a metaphor,he later said the universe is the world and the galaxies are the mythologies spread around it,separated only by geography,world(=earth) and galaxies(=mythologies),plus the fact that you cant describe the distance between galaxies just as ''geography'',this term only makes sense if youre talking about a planet also,i believe the spherical ''objects'' in the drawing you refer to represent the other realms of the norse mythology (as they are different dimensions) and not different mythologies and dont forget about the guy from gow ascension at the temple of delphi who said he had travelled from the land of the pharraoh,the land to which the egyptian gods reign,and i dont think the world land can be used to describe another planet,the same term used mimir when also describing egypt to atreus as a desert land with lots of gods,he didnt seem to mean that egypt was at an entirely different planet but the truth could be somewhere in the middle,maybe the other mythologies are just like other realms,with the only difference being that the asgardian gods have no power over them,maybe the mythologies dont exist at the same planet but also not in entirely different galaxies,maybe they exist at different layers of reality,or dimensions,you call it,of the same planet,earth
As another comment long before me mentioned, This is almost exactly like in A Nightmare Before Christmas. These different realms and mythologies share a world, but there's doorways and other passages between them. They exist on the same planet, separated by geography and likely some form of magical barriers, but its not impossible to just sail from Greece to Scandinavia. Just like if Jack kept walking, maybe he could have walked to another holiday without the doorways. Or for Kratos to get dragged like a dog toy through a magical doorway or other passage.
If that’s the case then that means that each mythology would have their own version of earth right? If so then would that mean that the Norse mythology earth would have its own version of Greece and vice versa? or am I looking too deep into it? 🤔
English Is Not My First Language i mean although you didn’t it’s easy to see why he would come to that conclusion. Considering you used the name of the nine tailed fox that is exclusive to Naruto and only means 9 tails...
@@NocioKu Kyuubi is an ancient Japanese legendary monster. the name Kyuubi is not exclusive to Naruto. there is two legendary beast that Naruto took from the ancient Japanese myth first it's the one tail Shukaku or Ichibi and Kyuubi or Kurama they both from beginning are called Kyuubi and Ichibi. the other tailed beast's names are exclusive to Naruto like Gonbi, Hichibi and others is exclusive to Naruto. Understand now?
"Not of this realm" which could equally imply that all pantheons are simply in different realms on the same planet. Alternate realities as well. Meaning he could've been dragged to midgard after causing a rift in his reality which allowed someone other than big t to cross. They commonly refer to Greece as another realm. And it's not uncommon for being to share. After, Zeus and atlas are both the god and titan of the sky. Poseidon, oceanus. That's not to ignore that the Roman and green pantheons are different but virtually the same and thus most believe they exist at the same time as two halves of the same coin. There's simply too many ways to go out and say this as a fact with the contradicting line from freya that you thought solidified your theory included. Realm has a meaning. Realm doesn't mean universe. It Doesn't mean planet or galaxy. It effectively means a reality or plain of existence in the context it's used in the game, proven by the bifrost which itself is a doorway to different realities or "realms" on the same planet. And remember when a gateway was broken and thus prevented nearly every being from traveling to and from the related realm. That right there is proof that it's possible. Also, if kratos destroyed the whole planet, it could've created a rift in realities which two "creatures" could've dragged the last living thing through for any purpose. When a planet is destroyed it's space is left empty. It becomes space and the closest things to space would have been skoll and hati if a rift was made. Also, with murals and all, if atreus aka Loki kills kratos, that would contradict him being brought to stop ragnarok. If that's not the case then the mural at the end that atreus missed depicts him killing kratos, or kratos dying to stop ragnarok. The symbols mean war. The only reason they would mean, and be different pantheons is if the pantheons themselves go to war with each other. Basically leaving kratos as a one man army against at least 3 armies of gods. Atreus will probably be the one to stop ragnarok, otherwise his mother would be irrelevent . It's relevant because of the last mentioned mural with all 4 symbols, and atreus having blood of two. He's easily a bridge. And if kratos dies, it probably wouldn't be the end of the war. He ends wars and more start, he's not meant to live in peace based on the story we've been given up till now. And he does in his sons arms. If the murals are accurate and that gets stuck to by devs. Ragnarok is probably what kills kratos, and leave atreus to either share the same hate for gods as his father, as they all went to war and thus killed him, or he bridges or seperates them indefinitely. Is the next game Ragnarok too? Our boy is taking his last steps and they told us. I don't think he stops it. The games have taught us, gods are beings of war. Not all, but most. Too many. I don't think Kratos CAN stop Ragnarok. I think Ragnarok is the only thing that can stop Kratos. And we know he dies soon. Kratos is the ghost of sparta, but he's followed by the ghost of war. Seeks peace in a land bound to suffer an end of days just like the one he brought to his own. Ragnarok is the destruction of everything. With 2 pantheons seen. There's a chance the aftermath of the war and kratos' death will leave atreus to wander one of the other pantheons. Which is gonna suck either way because ragnarok coming just means he won't get to experience his Nordic roots either. He'll be the closest to being kratos that anyone will ever come to. A man, with no ties to a new realm he wanders in search of a peace that isn't his to have. Honestly that storyline is screaming most likely as well. Just to kick atreus' story off after kratos dies. But yeah. And Loki of all people would be able to understand how to travel between pantheons, so that just takes it a step further.
I don't think Kratos will die. In the mural the man is missing an arm and has a prosthetic leg. Unless kratos loses an arm and a leg on the same side, it is not happening.
The roman pantheon is identical to the greek because it literally is the same pantheon. Roman adapted greek culture and just renamed everything. Even the great philosopher cicerus just copied the older greek ones work. So in this case they are not two sides of a coin, they are one and the same, just adapted for the romans.
I always thought it was obvious that each pantheon is a different realm or plane of reality. Tyr needed the unity stone to travel to other pantheons and not even mimir was sure it existed.
@@jhevgainz2307 It also state that Uranus created the GOW greek universe from fighting other primordials. That realm is stated to have infinite physical universes which is Olympus, Living, And Hell.
boys station they are the same. But in the game he isn’t as strong for gameplay purpose. Kratos is as strong as needed, he is the pure form of strength.
boys station it’s literally a prequel comic homie. It takes place between 3 and 4. I have every issue, I’ve also played all the games, currently own them too. Hell even a quick google search “are the god of war comics and games connected” can tell you I’m right.
Same realm* That's why CERN is having so much trouble. Huge difference between time travel, and traveling interdimensionally. It's shows it in every game. Every move.. within ever commercial.
I got up and examined it myself as well, I still believe that it's a shared world, only, each pantheon is so hard to go from one to the other that they consider it a different world/realm. It wouldnt surprise me if each of the 9 realms are actually 9 continents for which the Vikings or Asgardians have traveled.
@@lxxdccvii4805 think about it, even if his fangs were as big as trees and his body circled the world, what if the world/relm is not meaning the planet?
I always just figured that these stories take place so long ago that when mortals refer to "the world" it's from their limited perspective of it. What they think of as being "the world" is actually just a few countries maybe at most a continent. When it comes to the gods the higher up ones are aware of the rest of the planet, other pantheon, and maybe even the greater universe but they realized that a war between them would only destroy the planet so they agreed to just stick to their own religions and lie to everyone else about the outside world. The multiple different sea monsters/gods keep people from sailing too far, and the gods that control the weather and land animals keep people from traveling too far. For a while that system worked out just fine...but then Kratos showed up and started to upset the natural order of things and that's why he ended up in a completely different region. That's my idea anyway.
I do not know how you can discuss something not open for discussion. Midgard is a place they made for all north realms to coexist, a place where they all come together as you can learn from lore and Mimir. So Freya saying they are from another realm while beeing in midgard should immediatly made it click in your head that she means another realm in terms of north mythology. If she can tell wether hes from Jöthnheim, Alfheim, Asgard or any other realm in the north realms wich she would imply by saying it in that context it would at the same time disprove it because if she can tell the difference between a Asgardian or a Jöthner she would sense hes not from norse mythology at all. Checkmate you insubordinate primals. Now stand down and dont exhaust your brain too much.
@@neoniohnn Isn't Egyptian mythology part of the greater African mythologies that exist ? The same as the Norse mythology and Greek mythology are part of the European mythologies. Just because he can't name other African mythologies besides the Egyptian one doesn't mean he should refer to them as separate things. When in fact one is part of the other.
Basically to start, you have to think of it using the concept from Dr Who where the phone booth leads to something bigger on the inside. the 'hammerspace' trope. What I mean is that each pantheon is basically it's own complete world/universe with it's own cosmology within its borders. the Hubble telescope image just means the outside boundaries of each pantheon are represented by a galaxy-like point of light. when you enter the norse borders you are literally entering the Norse Universe/World--they even used this wording. Since the Greek pantheon was destroyed, the Greek world likely slowly dissipated and just became normal Greece overtime.
All I could think when Freya says “I know you’re a god but not of this realm.” Is that if it was a shared world that the land of Sparta is a realm on the same planet.
We're taking the word world out of context. Back then, the 'world' for these mythologies was basically the country or continent they existed on. So they can all exist on the same earth.
Interesting video my dude! But some of this is confusing, now for the record I’ve played god of war from start to finish more than 80 times and heard the dialogue more times than I can count and not once did I get the impression that these mythologies are separated by portals or dimensions, to me they all live on the same planet but separated by oceans, kratos said he came to the shores of Scandinavia that tells me he used a boat, mimir said he traveled north, so he came from Scotland, when their in Tyr’s vault and look at Egyptian artefacts he says it’s from a great desert land very far from here which means it’s in the same world. Now the word realm is another way of saying kingdom, land, country, domain, area etc and you can look that up too, the characters in this use the word realm frequently but it certainly doesn’t mean that they come from another dimension or reality, Freya also said the serpent spans all of Midgard, midgard is the world in the eyes of the local population. When Greece was destroyed the sun wasn’t gone it was just blacked out within the confines of the country the oceans rose but it doesn’t mean it happened around the entire planet, so when the wolves eat the sun and moon it just means that Midgard and the other 8 realms won’t be able to see them or use their energy anymore, there’s no way the wolves are big enough to actually eat the moon or sun, that’s ridiculous 😂 that image of the boat with the sky above them could be anything, maybe the other 8 realms are visible from Midgard with the naked eye and they painted a picture. Now mimir said that Tyr travelled to other lands and realms using the shortcut between the realms and being a god of war himself he took a peaceful approach, always preventing wars rather than starting them, the shrine merely shows that’s what he was doing and Thor and Odin put a stop to it by imprisoning him on Asgard, wether he’s still alive or not is another topic Either way I’ve always been under the impression that the mythologies are all taking place on the same planet but separated by nothing but oceans and maybe other mystical forces, the gods all have a piece of the power they are connected too but not all of it from all over the world so either we’re miss understanding what Cory is saying or there’s continuity errors written into the stories but I’m just going by what I’ve seen in the game and what makes the most sense 😉👍🏻
While I tend to agree that having the pantheons in non-overlap spaces, makes the most sense, the insinuation that the word “realm“ is somehow definitive is not a very good argument. “Realm“ has multiple uses. But the most common is “kingdom“. therefore, if you wanted to argue the position that all of these pantheons exist on the same planet, all that would mean is that Kratos comes from an area under the dominion of a different pantheon.
I think it's perfect. Not only it explains the concept of how all the mythologies co-exist and also adds much more on Kratos arc. Because Kratos was just a pawn used first by Ares and then Athena and even Gaia had their own plans. They had their own agenda and they intended to use Kratos to fullfill them. AND THEN Faye bringing Kratos to Norse "galaxy" per say, somehow makes me think she had her own agenda favoring the Giants.
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Still wrong because "world" is more in reference to a "specific region" that a certain mythology covers symbolically. Atlas dropping the world is more in reference to the destruction of the region Greek mythology took place in more specifically southern Europe throughout the Mediterranean into Persia. Norse mythology is northern Europe, Eastern Europe, Western Russia, Iceland and arguably Northern Canada potentially into most of the Arctic/Tundra of the northern hemisphere.
@@dannyxxboii8838 after watching this video I question this guys intelligence and ego. Calling it a fact when he is clearly the one misinterpreting what was explained as one world separated by geography. Not hard to grasp that different regions of earth had different religions they worshipped
@@YoureTooEZ basically also let's not forget what throws many people off is Norse mythology has multiple realms within their specific "Regional Realm" 💯
Barlog literally says they’re separated by GEOGRAPHY.
Me
Kratos the only mass murderer I’d ever respect.
Not the punisher?
Master chief?
Darth Vader?
Lol nope 😂only Kratos and maybe the alternate universe version of Batman where it’s Bruce Wayne’s dad
Nathan drake?
I feel like it's simply realm separation. All of the pantheons share the same planet concurrently, just not the same dimension.
YES this is what was I looking for
This comment needs to be up
but HOW did kratos cross dimensiona
That’s exactly what it is. That’s exactly what Cory said at GDC. ALL the pantheons exist on the planet concurrently and are only separated by GEOGRAPHY. His exact words.
Well Greek is in Greece and Norse is in Norway so he could just go by boat then next he goes to England,Egypt, Japan, Russia, China,India
Atreus: Father... mother told me there were only 9 realms.
Kratos: quiet boi, you know very little.
quiet
Darth Sand 9 “Norse” realms.
Leosol Canonizado it’s a joke
There's also a shadow realm
Cyen Esclanda we all make mistakes in the heat of passion jimbo
Let me summarize: remember that scene in “The Nightmare Before Christmas” where Jack finds the doors to other holiday worlds? And how they all share access to our world?
That.
🎶 what’s this? what’s this? there’s body’s everywhere. What’s this? What’s this? There’s giants over there…. 🎶
Perfect comparison
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I WAS JUST THINKING THAT BRO
@@NavyVet4955 “I can’t believe my eyes I must be dreaming wake up kratos this isn’t fair! What’s this!?”
Man, the God of War sequels are gonna be insane...
Assuming they ever get made
@@brendan6261 I think they will. I mean the game made a lot of money and won GOTY.
@@brendan6261
"Assuming a new Marvel Cinematic Universe movie gets made"
@@brendan6261 Ofcourse they're a gonna make sequels. The game got GOTY and made millions.
Im praying that they will make sequels after this pandemic outbreak.
my knowledge for the God Of War series is far more better than my knowledge for school
Mine too lol
My brain likes retaining info that's easy to remember. Now I know y I got an F in Algebra
We do that whenever we play new games
Me tooo
Almost all gamers
My theory is that tyr was observing kratos since he killed ares and when he killed zeus maybe tyr wanted kratos to rid asgard from their own evil gods
Møñ Čēf i can see this happening
Then Kratos was right, there are no good gods.
This needs resource
I watched another video that explained why Kratos may be/become Tyr.
or maybe he was collecting the gods of war
Important to point out that, during one of the boat conversations, Mimir suggests that Odin is interested in Kratos because he comes from a realm that Odin does not have control over. So yeah, its definitely canon that Kratos' realm is different.
freya literally says you are not from this realm like 3 hours in the game
@@nicehomelander Yeah...but that could be interpreted as a figure of expression.
@@paladingeorge6098 Tyr has literally traveled to all the realms, Egyptian/Mayan included so they're all connected somehow
Also, Cory Barlog literally describes how every Pantheon exists within their own "galaxy" in a single universe.
@@FatalShotGG yes idk why people still argue about it, its a pretty simple concept that ties everything together and its backed by ingame lore and game director's statements
I geeked so hard when Kratos said the symbols meant war, it was so hard
Imagine as he said that he follows with "I know this because I am *looks at camera* the God of War" then a live audience is shocked and loud murmurs occur.
@@Someguythatlikespizza Ace Attorney vibes lmao
This proves he really IS the God of War
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When artreus says the world serpant stretch's around the entire world , kratos laughs and says unlikely because he's seen the world and that serpant isn't there
The director says that the Greeks see their “world” destroyed because their world is Greek centric meaning what I think is that kratos just destroyed Greece and not the world. And that explains why he’s in an untouched Scandinavia
@@rosdos100 What you are saying doesn’t make sense. How are there different creation stories and gods sharing the same powers/domains? They are in different realms/dimensions, end of story.
@@SurveyorStudios The director explains it. The Greeks see their world as just their own area, norway sees it the same way as they're obviously not geographically close
@@rosdos100 So is Atlas holding up the earth or just Greece? I dont know, the same planet theory allows for inconsistencies like this. Theres already a precedent set with different realms and parallel universes so.
@@SurveyorStudios I understand what you're saying and that's why i said what i said, maybe it is just greece because the greeks thought the world revolved around them.
Kratos in Egypt fighting against Ra, Anubis etc, or him in japan fighting against Susanoo, Amaterasu, Raijin etc man that would lit 🔥
That would take a looot if time with this game development time.
Then god of war will become an assassin creed franchise 2.0
Somebody plays smite
@Dragon Piper 369 Amen to that bruhh. Jesus will throw lots of bread to kratos for sure
That was partially the original plan for GoWIII, Kratos would kill the greek gods at the beginning, then the other patheons would show up to try to dominate take control, which would include Norse, Egyptian and Hindu gods.
Honestly, it would be too much, old GoW games already did a crap job in showing off Greek gods, since most have little characterization and explanation of who they are, putting 3 other patheons in the same game would make it so they would be even worse.
I totally believe it’s parallel dimensions, cohesively resting on the shoulders of each other, harmoniously. I mean the Norse “Bifrost” shows us that it’s already possible in the Norse creation, which is why Kratos continues to say of Ragnorok: “it doesn’t concern them” because he’s already seen the downfall of a complete pantheon (of his own doing) & knows there IS an “outside the realm”.
Yeah kinda like the DC multiverse.
One question:What is the Door,or where is the door that Kratos went through,to go to Midgard?
Wrong. Barlog litteraly says they are separated by geography. The universe (in the Hubble pic) is the world, the galaxies are the mythologies. They are local like countries on the planet. Galaxies are not in another dimension, we can see them.
@@waynec38 In the God of War book it’s said that Kratos was actually dragged to Midgard by the 3 great wolves (fenris and the other 2) and someone covered in a cloak. That was like 70 or so year before the game.
@DiZ Zkl This right here finally someone states it!
So... there must be a Shrek realm somewhere out there...
I can't stop imagining Kratos and Shrek fighting with each other
@@ivans.5959 even better, adventure pals
Just an argument between them would be dope
Kratos”I’ve killed plenty of Ogres like you”
Shrek”You’re not the only one here who’s fought a dragon before!”
It would be a tag team. Shrek and Donkey VS Kratos and Arteues.
Yo... When atreus says the world serpent is wrapped around the world kratos says that it is an exaggeration, the could be true for atlas holding the world, it could be only the greek part, like a continental plate or something.
When kratos kills helios the sun isn't gone what actually happens is clouds covering the sky, by the end of the third game the sun is at the horizon so you can see it's not the whole world covered with clouds!
And also, Mimir says "i already knew you were greek" meaning there is a place called greece, not a galaxy. I believe the creation of the world are also legends not literal events, so maybe it is in the same planet!
The issue of the sun is not the covering of clouds, it the multiple gods who have to share them, like i said in the video mimir does pose a small problem. But you cant deny what cory says in the video
@@KaptainKuba True!
Kaptain Kuba well, different places on earth have different weather and climates so it might not be that different gods have to “share” the sun, but just control how the weather impacts the sun’s effects in those regions.
@@miiketookit Cory has already compared the pantheons to going to another country, but instead it's more the pantheons are separated by dimensions, which is how the Primordials made the Greek version of the Universe and Ymir made the Norse Universe, each mythical story and creation still happened, in an interview 2 dev's say you could get to the Egyptian version of Alfheim which wouldn't be true if there was not a full version of the planet but just the Norse area. Pretty confusing, but each God and Titan still controls their own element or area.
@@KaptainKuba in one of the games you fight persians
in one of the DLCs or whatever
Mimir “I can’t believe i’m hanging from the hip of the Ghost of Sparta”
Kratos: Do not call me that
you forgot the "bloody" word lol
Well it beats being stuck to a tree stump and torchered for centuries.
I believe the word was "dangling"
He knew of Greek I wonder if he knows the other words too
i simply thought it was different dimensions it makes more sense than spacetravel to me
The word dimensions works better than galaxys
Or realm... Realm works to
I agree
There is no space travel. Nor different dimensions. They all exist on planet at same time
@@Gwynbleidd_117 🤦🏾♂️
If MCU has “Multi-verse”, GOW must have “Multi-Realms”
@William Wykoff we have established already that that isnt the case here
MCU is not the only that has multiverses
@@pepegola7920 no one said it did
@William Wykoff how so
Marvel has a Omni-verse
*Short answer: by boat*
By *space boat*
Evol_253kッ smh, tyr traveled to other realms(regions) by boat. Nothing to do with space. This guy who made the video just didn’t understand what Cory was trying to explain when it came too how the god of war universe works.
@@JBurnz001 ok, but did I ask?
Evol_253kッ the button says reply, not ask can you reply.
@@JBurnz001 Cory literally said the word "galaxies". If that's not space stuff then I don't know what is.
I can't wait to see kratos having a fight with jesus
Jesus ends Kratos’ existence
He'd be the one to crucify him lol
@@notashark5189 no that was the jews
No
Jesus forgives him. instant KO
My idea of how it worked was that the Greek world, and the Greek Pantheon was just another realm, like the same as Asgard is to Midgard, but on an even larger scale. I almost imagined that these 9 realms existed in Norse mythology because they were easy to travel in between, but travelling to entire other dimension (another version of the world with an entirely different pantheon) was a much larger task.
This the best one yet
This is exactly what I was thinking. Another thing to consider is that they must explain it in the next game it they are to travel to a different mythology, and I find it will be much easier to explain travelling through realms which is already established than to show kratos and atreus flying through galaxies.
I mean tyr went to Greek pantheon so idk how this works then
@@LucyTheGoose103 cuz he was constantly traveling and trying to unite people everywhere, it was his whole goal so he probably had ways
Sadly, Barlog already state on his Twitter that Kratos was just travel from Greece to Scandinavia
*Kratos arrives in Norse Mythology*
Norse gods: heave breathing
@Dragon Piper 369 Jesus!
Kratos from wine gods arrives in Norse Mythology
Norse gods: *all beeing war gods*
Kratos: *SWEATS*
@@OrIoN1989 wine gods☠️
wait how do the norse god (like mimir know of kratos and zeus and all the other pantheons.
@@snippysilver8357 all these comments were months ago your not gonna get an answer
Mimir also mentions gods from 'a great desert land far away'
Massopotamian?
As someone from Iraq I would love to see them in god of war
@@theworldisfuckedupatm3398 or he means Egyptian lol
@Kevin Rosemond ye Anubis is an Egyptian god
@@theworldisfuckedupatm3398 nope, Egyptian
I think he means the egyptian pantheon, although I wanna see Kratos 1v1 the christian skydaddy lol
So even if kratos is done with this realm, he’s still got at least two more to go to according to the tyr panel. Man I might not even be alive by then.
Kratos won't be as well.
@@johnrenatoabenion6816 the old man died at least 3 times already, he is an immortal
I don't think they'll do all of them. Greek and Norse gods are the most well known...you might just be able to do Egyptian god's but anymore after that and you're risking burnout.
@@0saintclark0
Good writing will never cause burnouts
@@0saintclark0 killing gods never causes burnouts
One think people forget so much is when you get the Unity stone for the first time ever Mimir was shocked that it existed and it explained how Tyr was able to visit all the realms and other mythologies
Before watching the video, I theorize that each and every pantheon themselves are stuck inside pocket dimensions inside a single world where all they're origin stories only affects the pocket dimension they're in
Exactly this, it's the same point Barlog was saying.
With you on this as well, with the earth being a nexus like anchor point for all the godly realms, each ruling over their respective land of origin.
What if they were gods of different planet's they came to earth to rule the land they occupied
Something easier that would make sense is that each pantheon rules a parallel earth, like different universes
Very Plausible
Thor Vs Kratos has the potential to be one of the most hectic fights we will ever see in a videogame
It would end in a draw or retreat of one party cause Thor is destined to die by the world serpent
@@ark3371 I don't think the god of war saga really cares about those things. Especially people's destiny.
@@ark3371 maybe kratos leaves thor unconscious and the world serpent finishes him off
I hope we get to wield the Mjolnir as well. Or if not just give us an epic cutscene with Kratos using it to defeat the god of thunder with his own hammer then destroy it in the process.
@@ark3371 kratos can change fates and he changed the fate of magni and modi
Here is your explanation:
"Cory Barlog hinted in an interview with IGN how Kratos got to Norse world.
Basically, God's in the GoWverse are not planetary governing beings. The Greek/Roman God's ruled over their respective lands while God's of other lands rule over their respective lands.
So in the GoWverse, there are multiple afterlife's that you go to depending on where you're from and what God's hold dominion over your land, multiple God's of the sea with I presume select sea God's ruling over parts of the ocean closest to themselves, etc.
Basically, all Kratos did to get to Scandanavia is he literally left Greece and traveled across Europe until he came into lands ruled by the Norse God's. Midgard and the land where Kratos came from are from the same planet, we never actually see the scope of destruction in GoW3 outside of the immediate vicinity of Athens and around Mount Olympus and most mythologies aren't told from a perspective of the world at large but only the limited geographical scope of the people who wrote the myths.
This means all Kratos would have to do to encounter the Eygptian God's is to travel to Egypt and to encounter the Shinto God's he would simply need to travel to Japan.
This makes things a bit more underwhelming, but killing the Greek pantheon didn't throw the entire planet into an Apacolypse, only the land of Greece. The lands governed by other God's weren't thrown into chaos as they have their own afterlife, sun god, sea god, etc."
Miyazaki Fanboy Hurr Durr finally it seemed so likely that they are just different lands and the serpent spans like all of Scandinavia. but apparently it’s more likely that the Vikings god and Greek god live on different planets the same as earth in every way except different gods. if they to some “infinite worlds” shit with GOW I’ll be so pissed it’s just a cop out for shit writing
Jake Smiff how’s that? It’s hardly far-fetched considering the other time and dimensional travel we’ve already seen in the God of War universe
An Internet User what dimensions travelling unless you mean the different realms in new game but that’s explained as there all there at once in the same physical space not like dimensions stuff I know there was time travel in like end of 2-3 but different universes would be so unsatisfying Imo
@@smiff513 Did you and OP even see the video? It's basically confirmed that it's different Earths from different far away places in space.
Also, your first reply doesn't make any sense, first you say that it's different Earths with different Gods, then you go now to say that *IF* it turns out to be infinite worlds then that's a cop out.
Space Pope i didn’t day it was infinite worlds i meant that multiple earths the same but with different gods is essentially infinite worlds and I would be disappointed by that
If they ever needed to make a spin off kratos going from 3 to 4 would be a solid story. I think they have a shared world, but I they are separated magically, meaning you can only affect another place by traveling to it physically, so if one world ends that's all that happens it ends, the others remain unaffected
It’s a comic
"You are a pawn in the game that you don't even know is being played. Pathetic" - Thanatos.
Le player : "GEORGE THEY'RE INTO US!!"
Actually Thanatos got a point tho
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He was talking about the gods and their plan to kill off his family to make him a god. Dumbass
He shouldn't snap
@@blackstardragon_ Learn how 2 meme, dumbass. ;)
"it's not a theory it's a fact"
"mimir and Freya do cause a problem in this theory" bruh
How?
@@giokyo9465 no, I'm talking about how he tries to say its a fact instead of a theory and then contradicts that
@@aspen1889 how does he contradict himself ? Am i missing something ? How do freya and mimir cause a problem ?
@@aspen1889 even cory barlog said it the pantheons live in different galaxies but in the same universe so yea its fact ..
@@giokyo9465 dude I mean the use of theory and fact I'm not disagreeing with anything I'm just saying the wording-
We all said “war” when we saw the omega
Also Cory Barlog: "I see all mythologies as creation stories of different cultures throughout the world. All of them exist from the beginning of time until now, they are just separated by geography. The Mayan creation story is happening at the same time as the Greek creation story, and all these mythologies exist on one planet together." Key words: world, geography, planet.
Freya acknowledging Kratos hailing from a different realm actually serves the opposite purpose of proving he's from a different galaxy. The literal definition of realm can either be "a primary biogeographical division of the earth's surface," or "a field or domain of activity or interest."
Mortals perceive each mythos encompassing the entirety of the world due to their limited knowledge, while Gods like Kratos and Mimir understand its fallacy. Mimir recognizes their location as the northern part of the planet, and Kratos is in disbelieve Jormungandr encircles the world.
As a soft-reboot, GoW2018 retconned what was originally meant to be the Greek pantheon responsible for the origin of the universe, to each pantheon responsible for the origin of their respective country. So your poll results were actually on the nose.
There's just so much contradictory evidence for this train of thought, it would have been much simpler for him to just say it's different dimensions on top of one another. It's not hard to imagine Greece just being another realm that is now destroyed, sort of like how Mortal Kombat treats its realms. But to try to say they're all geographically located on the same planet and just accept all the bizarre physical impossibilities that go along with that is stupid almost beyond comprehension.
Freya could have meant anything from a small ant to a big whale. By the statement "ik enough" and with "not of this realm" because she was the literal wife of Odin and she would know all of the gods plus she knows vanir/dark magic.
I have one thing to say to this.... what is one of the first things baldur says to kratos? "You never should have come to midgard" as if greece isnt apart of midgard at all
@@thekommunistkrusader3921 that's because Baldur thought Kratos was the giant that Odin sent him after, when it turns out it was Faye. So he was referring to Jotunheim
@@marcusn.7865 is that so? Suppose it makes sense when he said "thought you would be bigger" but I dunno
When Atreus asks the head how did oden know “where we were going”. The head adds that oden is a collector of prophecy. Oden does this for control. The head then says “oden would like to control everything from the realms, lands and worlds”. Letting us know that all three are different.
Now this confirms that what freya did say was in fact true since she said that kratos was from a different realms all together.
Odin
I'm pretty sure the game never mentioned Oden
@@CyrusP.then u never played the game and it's Odin
@@Jeff-l7c7p is it Odin? WOW! I never knew that!!!
When Freya said “Not of this Realm” I thought she meant “This Country/Land”.
She most likely did
@@Breakhammer82 but alfeim helheim etc is not a different country/land but she calls them realms as well
Limitless but Midgard is a realm, and Greece is obviously a different ‘realm’ from Midgard. Since realm is just another way of saying kingdom, or domain, it’s too broad to be used exclusively to describe only countries or dimensions
@@Breakhammer82 but based on her knowledge most likely shes referring to them as a different place altogether
Kensei Hayabusa She cant have meant that Kratos is from one of the nordic realms. If he was, she must have known about him in some way or even met him in one of the realms. She can only mean it the View of „different Galaxies“ thing
That image ain't a compass, it's a message, Ragnarok will happen 2 days before the day after tomorrow
Today...
Jus say today fuck I couldn’t understand that lmao
@@briivsss it was a South Park reference
lol you're a fucker.
what
No he’s saying that the pantheons are separated geographically meaning the people of each pantheon don’t know that other land outside of their own exist.
Idk why you are the only one who gets it smh
@@AngelsbytheNumbers just because you are separated geographically doesnt mean that they wont know something is out there. I am separated from spain that doesnt mean I dont know it exists, or that someone can travel there tell me about it etc. Also how can they not "know· you have odin who is a mad man of power and never crossed his mind to go to other "lands" so he like other gods in other pantheons none of them with the abilities and powers they have their reach never bother to go to other places. ??.
This doesn’t make sense tho since it’s been proven ancient cultures did know about each other and possibly even traveled to and from.
@@AngelsbytheNumbers I'dk why you think that is a correct statement cause logically that doesn't make sense
@@AscndedAssassin yea fr also beings like Gaia could see everything past and Future so how would she not know other God's existed
I dunno man, rember Mimir still says to Kratos at one point "By the way I already guessed you were greek. "Athena"? gave yourself away with that one"
Yah. there is too much contradicting his theory. i think the most plausible theory would be different dimensions within the same world
What does that contradict?
@@atifkhudadad9737 did you disregard the speech from Cory?
I have a real good suspicion that we will find out somehow eventually that the Valks brought Kratos to the 9 realms, it's mentioned in GOW that the Valks search for fallen warriors to fight during Ragnarok and Kratos emphasizes the part where Mimir says "any battle" as if he is surprised to hear that, I would bet GOOD money that Tyr sent Valks to find Kratos after his battle with Zeus and after Athena pulls the blade of Olympus from his body and he was born anew in the 9 realms, not physically born anew but metaphorically, brought by the Valks and "given" another chance to make amends with his own torment and a chance to forget.
I feel like kratos just stared at a frog then got teleported to midgard
@@averageamogusenjoyer5240 💀
@@averageamogusenjoyer5240 lmao
this is a really good theory
Of every comment I read this actually seems most plausible
Looks like Kratos will meet Emperor Palpatine.
Randomness infinite
Kratos vs The Senate
Might even introduce him as a spiderman villain
Kratos becomes the greatest sith lord of all time
@@lixd3054 a sith lord?
I believe it to simply be a different realm. Just like jotenheim, and muslhspheim etc. They exist upon each other in different spaces. Similar to how dwarfs travel
Exactly
In a GameInformer interview, Matt Sophos, one of the writers, literally says Midgard is Earth and Kratos just sailed from Greece to Scandinavia.
What he said at the interview was super easy to understand that he meant that Greece was seen as its own little world because they didn't know what lied beyond the seas, so kratos sailed, this dude goes way beyond the meaning of what he said in that interview
So basically like a lot of theorist who take things too literal
@mira11 How?
@@cheezyblaztoyzeswet2674 It being the same planet causes a lot of inconsistencies and continuity errors. Kratos literally killed Gaia(kinda the earth itself in a weird way), Poseidon(the ocean), Helios(the sun), Hera(plants), and many other miscellaneous deities. The world completely fell apart. It doesn’t make any logical sense for the gods Kratos killed to be sharing the world with the Norse ones. Not only would the Norse gods be confused as hell about why their world is falling apart, but Zeus’ and Thor’s pretentious asses would’ve been starting a war every time lightning struck lol
@@justaperson9995 they're very far in-between, just take jorgmungandr as example, it's gigantic but only spams through all scandinavia. Consider the distance between greece and finland, no way gods would even acknowledge the existence of other pantheons, they have problem enough on their respective realms.
Also gaia was the world for Greece, that's not hard to understand. The apocalypse thing on gow 3 was just Greece-wide
I can wait to watch the next fast and furious movies when kratos emerges from crowd ready to race torreto
Toretto wins. Cuz he's got family by his side
Toretto has family but Kratos kills families
@@itsjohnnyr8560 but kratos only killed his family, so Dom is superior in that respect
@@SamVibezz massacred my boy
@@SamVibezz Kratos killed *All* of the Greek families
5:54
You see him traveling to other mythologies
And on the bottom you see Japanese Egypt and shit
It's crazy
Egypt in the left, japanese in the middle and aztec in the right
Tyr definitley was in the Greek pantheon...
Doing what?
_only time will tell._
@@donlalo2002 where did they get roconized
The idea that all the different “galaxies” are sparks of different cultures but they take place in the same planet is awesome.
Well it's pretty easy to understand that there's a multiverse and Tyr found the way not only to travel across them, but also shared knowledge with other war gods, i.e. Tyr had to know Ares and other war gods.
Opo
"The boat's captain key" treasure map quest completely shits on your theory, it says in the quest text that a man saild and crashed in Norse land after his captain was swallowed by the hydra referring to the first game's first boss.
Wait that doesn't make sense a e
@@ahmadbaalbaki4158 care to elaborate?
@@mh287 ohhhhhhhhhhh appologies i completely read that wronh
@@ahmadbaalbaki4158 no problem.
A hydra isn't a singular creature though. Hydra are a species so this is not true at all.
Damn, a god of war about the Aztec mythology, I would definitely buy that.
@Bruh Nation
But that’s easy. All Kratos can do is tame Cipactli, the Planet Eater, and all the 1,000 enemies in the Aztec Cosmo will stay put.
@Bruh Nation
Unless, it’s Cipactli that the true enemy; and it’s strength was enough to force Quetzalcoatl to seek help from other Gods across the Cosmos; and finds Kratos and beg him for assistance.
After all, Cipactli was a monster that made Ometeotl, the Supreme Deity & God of Duality, retreat back to its shield.
@@whathell6t It would be cool if Kratos would have to travel Mictlan, but that would be repetitive. Or at least that Quetzalcoatl would help Kratos in some way. Apart from that, I would want to see Huitzilopochtli and other powerful gods like Mictlantecuhtli, Tonatiuh, Xolotl, Tezcatlipoca, and Tlaloc.
TheGreen Tortoise
What are you talking about? Are you being serious?
@@es-rh8oo the supreme deity and God of duality, *omelette*
Cory Balrog said it himself that these mythologies are different galaxies that can only be accessed by special travel ways, like Tyr did.
Cory Barlog said all the pantheons exist in the same world but they’re separated by geography
As in dimension/galaxies, he literally just said that in the clip he showed.
I am surprised how much selective hearing is helping this video. Cory says the universe of the mythologies is the world(Earth). Making this video totally invalid.
@@РадославШолев He say each Ideology live on the same world but in it's own galaxy, places or geographic problably what it means is that in one earth Greece is everywhere in that place while in the other Midgard exist but not greece and the only way to get there is troo a portal like when the war between the Asgardian and the Vanir Gods happen so it does make sense. Because the Asgardians have their own planet while the Vanir have their and we call it realms but they have entire galaxies as well as us.
he literally just said in the clip it's different galaxies .. did you even watch the video ? 🤦🏽♂️ smfh
@@РадославШолев Fam, he just defined what he means by 'world' in the video. Rewatch it or something.
What if ragnarok has a bunch of gods of war from all over!?!?
I doubt it, adding new pantheon would take away focus from norse mythology
eddy rapino I would love if there are some giants still alive and in GOW5 then you find them and lead them into battle against Thor and Odin.
Kaptain Kuba he could be right tho.. the original god of war 3 ending was supposed to be all the mythologies fighting each other and the birth of Christ
Maybe unlikely but this game is the game that opens tthe door to other pantheons! Whatever happen in GOW5.... will be amazeballs
and kratos is the strongest
The dude in the clip of the speech you posted, he literally said people thought that kratos destroyed the world, but he destroyed greece, which was their perspective of what the world was. Basically that all the gods and people saw all of greece as "the world" because that's as far as the greek religion extends. Kratos sailed from greece another land where they had another religion. You're also forgetting about the fractured timeline. Jorgunmander has already met atreus, and tells mimir that hes familiar, because hes already experienced ragnorak. Jorgunmander has been thrown back in time, so it's possible that Zeus and jorgunmander were never in the same timeline, or even that the greek gods never went beyond the confines of greece. Also, Mimir doesn't say the GREEK pantheon. He said "I heard what happened at the pantheon" so the greek gods are on mount Olympus and the norse gods are in asgard. The titans could be jotun. Because odin and Zeus have very similar birth stories and the world being built by priomrdials. When kratos jumps off the world tree, hes in a mirrored world because when entering the temple afterwards, its upside down. It's possible that with the jotun magic, Tyr was able to be unseen by the gods of the lands he traveled to, and since the jotun were gone, only tyr could do it.
Yea i think he misunderstood what the dev was saying about the galaxies, it was simply a metaphor comparing it to the world, not literally saying they’re all galaxies lol.
I just hope they make another game where Kratos causes ragnarok to happen, then the third game is ragnarok and all the fun associated. Then maybe after that good ole Kratos can travel the “the desert land with lots of gods” and they hinted to in Tyrs vault
@@icrypticshad0w681 Except Kratos is going to die.
Or did you forget that part?
MrCrunchytime Death was never able to stop Kratos. He already escaped Hades multiple times, he can do the same with Helheim.
Truthfully I feel like kratos is either Odin himself due to the wooden doll of atreus and kratos, but the kratos one has an eye patch, and that Odin's ultimate fate is to be thrown into another time, to kill Zeus, to come all the way back to Scandinavia, to have atreus and cause ragnarok. OR kratos does and odin gets atreus since Odin in mythology, ADOPTED Loki. It's possible that kratos dies and Odin takes atreus, or that odin and kratos are in fact the same person, and after ragnarok, kratos and atreus live out their days as odin and Loki. Or Odin's fate is to die, because he finds out odin is kratos, and he chooses to be kratos, "the end of odin"
I’d be amaze if they ever released a GoW based on Egyptian mythology
Most likely, it's been hinted
I saw a video where Cory had it pitched before this Nordic one. Had a small clip and all.
teen loki and kratos venturing through a dessert, pretty good
please god let it be Chinese mythology i wanna see kratos fight onis so bad
Kratos would lose to the Egyptian gods. The Egyptian gods are more unique and way way stronger then Norse and Greek gods.
so basically god of war franchise will be mario galaxy for adults.
No. It all takes place one the same planet. There are certainly other realms, but the Earth remains the same.
@@alexubel right i forget theres a few locked realms in the main game. i keep hoping for a dlc but nothung yet.
Haha shit that fits so well
Alexander Hernandez there will never be GOW4 DLC. That was confirmed. You can stop waiting for it lol
Mario Galaxy already is for adults.
All the realm are connected by water I see what cory did Smart
Well not water, its just space but they are using a boat to get around
Kaptain Kuba so that explains why they haven’t heard of the Greek mythology cuz there trapped in there own world.. but sure as hell all the gods dying and causing all those nuclear type explosions the other mythologies wouldn’t feel the tremble if there deaths.. but I still don’t get if Kratos released hope did he release it to all other mythologies or just Greek?
KingCN M it’s kinda like how Charon has a boat and Kratos needed to get to Elysium but only way to get there was by boat.. which was the only way to travel there.. maybe it’s the same way for traveling to other realms
@@JessicaGarcia-xf9wr which the world tree is just a faster way to travel to other realms
KingCN M the world tree only applies to the Norse mythology
The first symbol you showed wasn’t a compass. It is called Aegishjalmur, Vikings often wore it in medallions. All the symbols surrounding it are ancient runes that represent different values each. Vikings used to believe that I gave you fortune and good luck, specially in battle. Nice video by the way :)
You could explain Mimir through the fact Similar Pantheons are closer to one another. So Norse and Celtic are perhaps close and Mimir did exactly as he said. Traveled north from his homeland (Scotland) and eventually arriving on the shores of Midgard.
What if I tell you guys I don’t even know?
Damn, how did you get access to the internet? Can the norse fbi track you down?
You do know. You just have believe in your self than your inner powers would be reveal
Kratos_7-7-7-7 then I have no problem taking that as an answer cuz I have no idea either my dude
I'll give u a hint. The ancient worlds of mythology are built on a flat earth cosmology. So it makes more sense when u think of it that way .out space in there perspective is just water so cretos came by boat
Marshall J no it doesn’t boy.
That explains how he ended up in the MK realm 😲
Earthrealm
🤔 get this man a beer
@CRISTIAN DAVID OTALORA PEÑA it would make sense, since they have collaborated before
Wasn’t canon
rudeMALITIA but who’s confirmed that?
Whenever i hear “the world” i hear ZA WARUDO!!!
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I think that when Freyja sais "not of this Realm" she is simply talking about "One of the nine Realms"
It wasn't hard for me to understand the "shared" mytologies, I mean, just by moving around the realms of Yggdrasil it was easy for me to understand that other realms from other mytologies were accessed in kind of the same way, I don't see them as galaxies, nor as the same planet, I see them more like Yggdrasil itself, a bunch of mitologies coexisting in the same universe, separeted by magic doors or something like that. So, for me, the Greek realm is totally destroyed, but the others are still intact (kinda).
In tyrs temple there is a mural of Tyr visiting the Greeks. A moon is in the sky, but there is just an empty space, and no sun where it should be. Tyr is giving the Greeks a device that looks a lot like the blue and yellow switches you use throughout the game, with a sun and moon depicted on it. Ergo, Tyr visited the Greek realm after Kratos killed Helios, and gave them a device to replace their lost sun. This also explains why in the Ragnarok trailer, Tyr is hostile towards Kratos and calls him a God killer and other insults- he's seen first hand the devastation Kratos left in his wake. The Greek realm is not totally destroyed- there are survivors, Athena even laments that they "will not know what to do with" the gift of hope Kratos gave them, which doubtless helps them to make it in their new post apocalyptic surrounds.
Also, the depiction of Tyr in this mural shows him arriving by sailboat- I believe that the realms are far closer together than just distant galaxies, its more like a dimensional multiverse of realms coexisting in similar space- Mimir even says many people came to Tyrs temple to give him gifts, yet apparently only Tyr and Mimir had the giants gift of travel, and Tyrs temple does not exist outside the nine norse realms- therefore, all the people who came from far off lands to give Tyr gifts had to make their way physically. I believe its possible that the God of War universe is not a planet, but a plane. possibly infinitely large, considering Cory Barlog specifically said that what separates the realms was "vast amounts of geography" - and geography is one of the things space is famously lacking.
They're about to bring Percy Jackson to a whole nother level
This is going into some high end theory but this is my thoughts. Each pantheon has a bubble of influence on the earth. While within that bubble the rules of that pantheon affect everything but only from within the context of that bubble. For instance Jörmungandr douse encircle the whole world but only from within the sphere of the Norse gods. Another way to think of it is like some optical illusions. You can only see the picture from a specific angle.
I just think of it as the gods are only powerful enough to influence their own countries and people. They aren't all powerful. Kratos is right when he says the gods overestimate themselves
Now this. This is exactly what it is.
Don't read this comment if you're high
Here is your explanation:
"Cory Barlog hinted in an interview with IGN how Kratos got to Norse world.
Basically, God's in the GoWverse are not planetary governing beings. The Greek/Roman God's ruled over their respective lands while God's of other lands rule over their respective lands.
So in the GoWverse, there are multiple afterlife's that you go to depending on where you're from and what God's hold dominion over your land, multiple God's of the sea with I presume select sea God's ruling over parts of the ocean closest to themselves, etc.
Basically, all Kratos did to get to Scandanavia is he literally left Greece and traveled across Europe until he came into lands ruled by the Norse God's. Midgard and the land where Kratos came from are from the same planet, we never actually see the scope of destruction in GoW3 outside of the immediate vicinity of Athens and around Mount Olympus and most mythologies aren't told from a perspective of the world at large but only the limited geographical scope of the people who wrote the myths.
This means all Kratos would have to do to encounter the Eygptian God's is to travel to Egypt and to encounter the Shinto God's he would simply need to travel to Japan.
This makes things a bit more underwhelming, but killing the Greek pantheon didn't throw the entire planet into an Apacolypse, only the land of Greece. The lands governed by other God's weren't thrown into chaos as they have their own afterlife, sun god, sea god, etc."
@@neildrunkmaam7040 yup, i agree with this one, in the conference itself, the creator confirmed it, it's about geography difference, they thought the world is only as far as they can see, never to look past it, so kratos was simply walk north until he found a new place.
There is one more thing that makes this true, you remember the part where Freya tells Kratos that in helheim no magic in all the realms can create a spark, but his blades can light ablaze? Simply its not part of any of the nordic realms, allowing to blaze away in Helheim
Mimir tells Kratos that he figured out he's greek. How does he know what Greece is.
Because tyr traveled and mingled with other pantheons
@@thealien_ali3382 Tyr travelled and brought back a lot of stuff. besides Mimir is pretty well informed, it is possible that Mimir knows that another realm containing a place called Greece with its own respective Gods exists.
@@darkraven4455 well he knew about zeus and tyr did meet lot of people around different regions, then again the Greek pantheon's are the ones that are truly immortal, they can't die unless it's one of there own kills them, even then they seem to return back, like the marvel counterparts, Ares has been killed so many times only to come back, whereas the Norse mythology they just live for a very long time and Eventually die
The idea of Greece doesn’t make since in this context
Doesn’t greece exist on earth/midgard, even if Norse mythology is confirmed correct in this universe?
For all the people still not accepting the view here's Cory Barlog's Explanation word for word:
All the MYTHOLOGIES of the WORLD are kinda like this hubble telescope Image. They are like GALAXIES SPREAD OUT through out a complete UNIVERSE and the WORLD is the UNIVERSE and all MYTHOLOGIES are sorta origin stories of various cultures through out the WORLD. Beginning at the beginning of time and STRETCHING all the way out, so at any given time all the MYTHOLOGIES exist together and currently and the are simply SEPARATED by GEOGRAPHY
We have to let Cory Explain what he means and not bring our preconceived meanings. For him The World is the Universe, not part of the Universe. Its the Universe itself. Once you accept his meaning for the word WORLD the theory will make sense.
I have a theory that maybe, just maybe, the reason of why the different pantheons have not clashed in war for dominance or territory is because of something that goes way back to the time of the primordial gods.
At some point, after everything was created from the "Primordial War", they made a peace treaty, and each of them got a piece of the world for themselves.
But to prevent any type of territorial misunderstanding, they put a special barrier that separated each mythology, being that the reason why Odin and Zeus never met face to face, and Tyr was the only, or at least of the few who found a way to trespass that primordial barrier.
How kratos and mimir walked into norse mythology could be similar to thor dark world different worlds and the boundary between them overlaps in some places Then moves. And tyr found away of controlling the doors between worlds.
@@shadowhell8378 mimir has always been there
So world means universe and country could be other planets or galaxies dose that make sense how I said it
bro thats a nice theory but i think its wrong,cory seemed to use the world galaxies as a metaphor,he later said the universe is the world and the galaxies are the mythologies spread around it,separated only by geography,world(=earth) and galaxies(=mythologies),plus the fact that you cant describe the distance between galaxies just as ''geography'',this term only makes sense if youre talking about a planet
also,i believe the spherical ''objects'' in the drawing you refer to represent the other realms of the norse mythology (as they are different dimensions) and not different mythologies
and dont forget about the guy from gow ascension at the temple of delphi who said he had travelled from the land of the pharraoh,the land to which the egyptian gods reign,and i dont think the world land can be used to describe another planet,the same term used mimir when also describing egypt to atreus as a desert land with lots of gods,he didnt seem to mean that egypt was at an entirely different planet
but the truth could be somewhere in the middle,maybe the other mythologies are just like other realms,with the only difference being that the asgardian gods have no power over them,maybe the mythologies dont exist at the same planet but also not in entirely different galaxies,maybe they exist at different layers of reality,or dimensions,you call it,of the same planet,earth
Who is here after watching the God of War Ragnarok trailer
ME!
Me
Me!
Are you really so uneducated that you don't know the difference between trailer and teaser?
As another comment long before me mentioned, This is almost exactly like in A Nightmare Before Christmas. These different realms and mythologies share a world, but there's doorways and other passages between them. They exist on the same planet, separated by geography and likely some form of magical barriers, but its not impossible to just sail from Greece to Scandinavia. Just like if Jack kept walking, maybe he could have walked to another holiday without the doorways. Or for Kratos to get dragged like a dog toy through a magical doorway or other passage.
If that’s the case then that means that each mythology would have their own version of earth right? If so then would that mean that the Norse mythology earth would have its own version of Greece and vice versa? or am I looking too deep into it? 🤔
Next god of war
Kratos : "Who are you!?"
Stanger : " Watashi nama e wa....."
Then you know where they traveled 🤣
stanger?
can't wait Kratos vs Kyuubi
@@mg1721 did I in any way insinuate naruto is the only thing happening in japan?
English Is Not My First Language i mean although you didn’t it’s easy to see why he would come to that conclusion. Considering you used the name of the nine tailed fox that is exclusive to Naruto and only means 9 tails...
@@NocioKu Kyuubi is an ancient Japanese legendary monster. the name Kyuubi is not exclusive to Naruto. there is two legendary beast that Naruto took from the ancient Japanese myth first it's the one tail Shukaku or Ichibi and Kyuubi or Kurama they both from beginning are called Kyuubi and Ichibi. the other tailed beast's names are exclusive to Naruto like Gonbi, Hichibi and others is exclusive to Naruto. Understand now?
"Not of this realm" which could equally imply that all pantheons are simply in different realms on the same planet. Alternate realities as well. Meaning he could've been dragged to midgard after causing a rift in his reality which allowed someone other than big t to cross. They commonly refer to Greece as another realm. And it's not uncommon for being to share. After, Zeus and atlas are both the god and titan of the sky. Poseidon, oceanus. That's not to ignore that the Roman and green pantheons are different but virtually the same and thus most believe they exist at the same time as two halves of the same coin. There's simply too many ways to go out and say this as a fact with the contradicting line from freya that you thought solidified your theory included.
Realm has a meaning. Realm doesn't mean universe. It Doesn't mean planet or galaxy. It effectively means a reality or plain of existence in the context it's used in the game, proven by the bifrost which itself is a doorway to different realities or "realms" on the same planet. And remember when a gateway was broken and thus prevented nearly every being from traveling to and from the related realm. That right there is proof that it's possible. Also, if kratos destroyed the whole planet, it could've created a rift in realities which two "creatures" could've dragged the last living thing through for any purpose. When a planet is destroyed it's space is left empty. It becomes space and the closest things to space would have been skoll and hati if a rift was made. Also, with murals and all, if atreus aka Loki kills kratos, that would contradict him being brought to stop ragnarok. If that's not the case then the mural at the end that atreus missed depicts him killing kratos, or kratos dying to stop ragnarok. The symbols mean war. The only reason they would mean, and be different pantheons is if the pantheons themselves go to war with each other. Basically leaving kratos as a one man army against at least 3 armies of gods. Atreus will probably be the one to stop ragnarok, otherwise his mother would be irrelevent . It's relevant because of the last mentioned mural with all 4 symbols, and atreus having blood of two. He's easily a bridge. And if kratos dies, it probably wouldn't be the end of the war. He ends wars and more start, he's not meant to live in peace based on the story we've been given up till now. And he does in his sons arms. If the murals are accurate and that gets stuck to by devs. Ragnarok is probably what kills kratos, and leave atreus to either share the same hate for gods as his father, as they all went to war and thus killed him, or he bridges or seperates them indefinitely.
Is the next game Ragnarok too? Our boy is taking his last steps and they told us. I don't think he stops it. The games have taught us, gods are beings of war. Not all, but most. Too many. I don't think Kratos CAN stop Ragnarok. I think Ragnarok is the only thing that can stop Kratos. And we know he dies soon. Kratos is the ghost of sparta, but he's followed by the ghost of war. Seeks peace in a land bound to suffer an end of days just like the one he brought to his own.
Ragnarok is the destruction of everything. With 2 pantheons seen. There's a chance the aftermath of the war and kratos' death will leave atreus to wander one of the other pantheons. Which is gonna suck either way because ragnarok coming just means he won't get to experience his Nordic roots either. He'll be the closest to being kratos that anyone will ever come to. A man, with no ties to a new realm he wanders in search of a peace that isn't his to have. Honestly that storyline is screaming most likely as well. Just to kick atreus' story off after kratos dies. But yeah. And Loki of all people would be able to understand how to travel between pantheons, so that just takes it a step further.
I don't think Kratos will die. In the mural the man is missing an arm and has a prosthetic leg. Unless kratos loses an arm and a leg on the same side, it is not happening.
The roman pantheon is identical to the greek because it literally is the same pantheon. Roman adapted greek culture and just renamed everything. Even the great philosopher cicerus just copied the older greek ones work. So in this case they are not two sides of a coin, they are one and the same, just adapted for the romans.
I always thought it was obvious that each pantheon is a different realm or plane of reality. Tyr needed the unity stone to travel to other pantheons and not even mimir was sure it existed.
@@jhevgainz2307 It also state that Uranus created the GOW greek universe from fighting other primordials. That realm is stated to have infinite physical universes which is Olympus, Living, And Hell.
I also think The world tree is a time teleporter to different realms in the norse region. So the god of war Universe is WAYYYYY bigger than we think.
god of war: tournament of power, where he faces off against beerus
Game Kratos would lose.but it was black horse Kratos.he would rape Beerus untill death
boys station they are the same. But in the game he isn’t as strong for gameplay purpose. Kratos is as strong as needed, he is the pure form of strength.
@@braydenharris2812 actually game Kratos is multi universal. Comic Kratos is complex multiversal
boys station it’s literally a prequel comic homie. It takes place between 3 and 4. I have every issue, I’ve also played all the games, currently own them too. Hell even a quick google search “are the god of war comics and games connected” can tell you I’m right.
@@braydenharris2812 ok I'll try search it now
Cory took this game to levels that even the creator would never of been able to do.
God of war from Japanese mythos would be lit
Anime version xD
I hope they don’t stop god of war after Norse mythology and they have Kratos and Loki go travel to the Japanese or Egyptian realm
@@calvingates6185 my body is ready for this
Just imagining Kratos having to battle Fudo Myoo sounds epic
It would be more on the Chinese side of things, I would imagine.
I love how the weapon holder on his back for the frost ax is the omega symbol. :)
The “Shared Sun” hypothesis is false because when you kill Helios the Sun doesn’t disappear, it’s just completely covered by dark clouds.
Exactly and maybe only in that area that spanned of Greece was clouded. He’s far from there now
THIS, I WAS LOOKING FOR THIS COMMENT
Been watching since you had only a couple thousand subscribers. So glad you made it this far, Kuba
The galaxy thing was CLEARLY a metaphor, that’s the same planet guys.
Same realm* That's why CERN is having so much trouble. Huge difference between time travel, and traveling interdimensionally. It's shows it in every game. Every move.. within ever commercial.
Yeah, same planets, every realm is like every continent right?
No that’s dumb. Why would he show a universe then? Why would he not just show the regular map?
How do you know that for sure though? Because in the game, you literally travel to other realms/worlds
Bros, please, you aren't helping my "How tf do all of these pantheons with differents beginning of everything scenarioexist" crisis.
Boi : Dad.. Tell me a bed time story from another realm!?
Kartos : IN THE FIRST AGE.. IN THE FIRST BATTLE!!
If I remember corectly when mimir was talking to atreus he said something about gods in the land full of sand
in the treasure room
@@igol.d.luguno6991 there were also vases and other treasures with egyptian art
I got up and examined it myself as well, I still believe that it's a shared world, only, each pantheon is so hard to go from one to the other that they consider it a different world/realm. It wouldnt surprise me if each of the 9 realms are actually 9 continents for which the Vikings or Asgardians have traveled.
Midgard serpent and world tree disprove this
Makes no sense
@@lxxdccvii4805 think about it, even if his fangs were as big as trees and his body circled the world, what if the world/relm is not meaning the planet?
Man, this series broke it's own rules so badly that they had to create a bunch of lore to fix it!
I always just figured that these stories take place so long ago that when mortals refer to "the world" it's from their limited perspective of it. What they think of as being "the world" is actually just a few countries maybe at most a continent. When it comes to the gods the higher up ones are aware of the rest of the planet, other pantheon, and maybe even the greater universe but they realized that a war between them would only destroy the planet so they agreed to just stick to their own religions and lie to everyone else about the outside world. The multiple different sea monsters/gods keep people from sailing too far, and the gods that control the weather and land animals keep people from traveling too far. For a while that system worked out just fine...but then Kratos showed up and started to upset the natural order of things and that's why he ended up in a completely different region. That's my idea anyway.
This idea bro...this is it
But your idea just undermines the events of gow3 where the world is destroyed due to the actions of Kratos.
@@riyasahamed8325 Greece is destroyed not the world
God of war is one of the greatest game stories ever of all time
people mistake galaxies with dimensions so often it's actually amazing.
Thought this was clickbait, an not disappointed at all, incredible
First God of War (trilogy) - Multi-timeline Shenanigans
Second God of War - Multi-Dimension Shenanigans
Freya saying “not of this realm” can also mean just the land that they are on not a whole different world
amirr zero exactly... realm jus means place with a rule of some kind.
Lmfao what a dumbass
amirr zero Kratos is
Hasnt kratos been in midgard fir a while though.
I do not know how you can discuss something not open for discussion. Midgard is a place they made for all north realms to coexist, a place where they all come together as you can learn from lore and Mimir.
So Freya saying they are from another realm while beeing in midgard should immediatly made it click in your head that she means another realm in terms of north mythology.
If she can tell wether hes from Jöthnheim, Alfheim, Asgard or any other realm in the north realms wich she would imply by saying it in that context it would at the same time disprove it because if she can tell the difference between a Asgardian or a Jöthner she would sense hes not from norse mythology at all.
Checkmate you insubordinate primals. Now stand down and dont exhaust your brain too much.
5:51 literally just look at the bottom panel. 10000 percent supports this fact that tyr traveled to different realms using this boat
"Egyptian, African..."
I wonder where Egypt is found
In Egypt, duh
He ment by that their mythology’s, Africans have different mythological beings and cultures to compared the Egyptian Gods and so...
Egyptian and african mythology is vastly different
@@neoniohnn Isn't Egyptian mythology part of the greater African mythologies that exist ? The same as the Norse mythology and Greek mythology are part of the European mythologies.
Just because he can't name other African mythologies besides the Egyptian one doesn't mean he should refer to them as separate things. When in fact one is part of the other.
@@ndabamhlanga55 here we go
When Freya asked him if he visited hel and he said not this one it was clearly that he was thinkin bout hades underworld
Basically to start, you have to think of it using the concept from Dr Who where the phone booth leads to something bigger on the inside. the 'hammerspace' trope. What I mean is that each pantheon is basically it's own complete world/universe with it's own cosmology within its borders. the Hubble telescope image just means the outside boundaries of each pantheon are represented by a galaxy-like point of light. when you enter the norse borders you are literally entering the Norse Universe/World--they even used this wording. Since the Greek pantheon was destroyed, the Greek world likely slowly dissipated and just became normal Greece overtime.
All I could think when Freya says “I know you’re a god but not of this realm.” Is that if it was a shared world that the land of Sparta is a realm on the same planet.
We're taking the word world out of context.
Back then, the 'world' for these mythologies was basically the country or continent they existed on. So they can all exist on the same earth.
I hope I would live long enough to see Kratos destroy Norse, Egyptian myths, and Japan's Shinto
You will.
Interesting video my dude! But some of this is confusing, now for the record I’ve played god of war from start to finish more than 80 times and heard the dialogue more times than I can count and not once did I get the impression that these mythologies are separated by portals or dimensions, to me they all live on the same planet but separated by oceans, kratos said he came to the shores of Scandinavia that tells me he used a boat, mimir said he traveled north, so he came from Scotland, when their in Tyr’s vault and look at Egyptian artefacts he says it’s from a great desert land very far from here which means it’s in the same world.
Now the word realm is another way of saying kingdom, land, country, domain, area etc and you can look that up too, the characters in this use the word realm frequently but it certainly doesn’t mean that they come from another dimension or reality, Freya also said the serpent spans all of Midgard, midgard is the world in the eyes of the local population.
When Greece was destroyed the sun wasn’t gone it was just blacked out within the confines of the country the oceans rose but it doesn’t mean it happened around the entire planet, so when the wolves eat the sun and moon it just means that Midgard and the other 8 realms won’t be able to see them or use their energy anymore, there’s no way the wolves are big enough to actually eat the moon or sun, that’s ridiculous 😂 that image of the boat with the sky above them could be anything, maybe the other 8 realms are visible from Midgard with the naked eye and they painted a picture.
Now mimir said that Tyr travelled to other lands and realms using the shortcut between the realms and being a god of war himself he took a peaceful approach, always preventing wars rather than starting them, the shrine merely shows that’s what he was doing and Thor and Odin put a stop to it by imprisoning him on Asgard, wether he’s still alive or not is another topic
Either way I’ve always been under the impression that the mythologies are all taking place on the same planet but separated by nothing but oceans and maybe other mystical forces, the gods all have a piece of the power they are connected too but not all of it from all over the world so either we’re miss understanding what Cory is saying or there’s continuity errors written into the stories but I’m just going by what I’ve seen in the game and what makes the most sense 😉👍🏻
While I tend to agree that having the pantheons in non-overlap spaces, makes the most sense, the insinuation that the word “realm“ is somehow definitive is not a very good argument. “Realm“ has multiple uses. But the most common is “kingdom“. therefore, if you wanted to argue the position that all of these pantheons exist on the same planet, all that would mean is that Kratos comes from an area under the dominion of a different pantheon.
That ending was everything...can’t wait till they reveal the details in gameplay.
I think it's perfect. Not only it explains the concept of how all the mythologies co-exist and also adds much more on Kratos arc. Because Kratos was just a pawn used first by Ares and then Athena and even Gaia had their own plans. They had their own agenda and they intended to use Kratos to fullfill them. AND THEN Faye bringing Kratos to Norse "galaxy" per say, somehow makes me think she had her own agenda favoring the Giants.
Kratos later realizes that Norse Gods were basically heros.
*Atreus* : How did you get to Midgard Father?
*Kratos* : I was dragged here Boy!
They don't even eat wym.