To get the new skills like Heavenly Ikuyumi, you have to talk with the woman in the middle of the da'at tokoy diet building. She'll give you the essences. There are only 3 essences for that type, and they'll be given at around every 10 levels. ( 80 being the latest ) You might also have to be at a certain point in the story, but I'm not 100% sure about that
From my experience, it's also tied to quest/virtual battle progression. I had to do all the side quests and consecutive virtual battles you can unlock just before your alignment locks you into one of the routes on Vengeance.
As far as Tsukuyomi essence, here's what I got. You get the base when you get the new Nahobino form. You get median essence when you reach the temple of eternity. The last Tsukuyomi essence, Ultimus, I'm not sure when you get that.
The new skills are really over the top even when compared to the originals. It almost gives an air that the Nahobino is _not_ fucking around this time.
Especially when you use them with the _intended_ forms. The Tsukuyomi skills almost feel like the Nahobino is 110% done with everybody's nonsense. Which... I mean, _can you blame him!?_
Not just that I feel like he’s been done with everyone’s shit ever since fusing with Tsukuyomi. The most striking example to me would be SPOILERS Right before the fight with Abdiel and Dazai where in the cutscene, the protag aggressively shakes off Dazai’s hand off his shoulder and went straight for the kill. I don’t think that’s the kind of thing he would do in his Aogami form imo
@@zambiep5 We only see this level of aggressive expression from the Nahobino in base five when he uses the Arrow Rain skill or whatever it's called, the look on his face says he's ready to wipe out entire armies and that you're a fool to stand in his way, regardless of if you're an angel or a demon. If Atlus ever does add a neutral route, they should have the Nahobino straight up bitch slap both Mastema and Lilith as a means of saying "If anyone's gonna decide what the new world becomes, it's going to be _me_ ."
Aogami form had this feeling of controlled power for a greater purpose Tsukuyomi form is Nahobino on a fucking WARPATH after all the shit that happened to him
I think Wrath Tempest is the first attack that really let's you know that Nahobino really isn't just a demon, he's a *God.* The way the camera angle looks up at him makes you feel like the enemy in that situation. A pitiful little shit that is about to take 8 sweet hits of weak physical damage with greater effect on critical Edit to clarify, I don't think Wrath Tempest is weak, that's just the in-game description 😭😭😭
It is strong….its power is boosted when it crits + crit damage + zealot (which all physical builds are building regardless). Im assuming yall have a mixed nahobino set up instead of a dedicated build and is why your wraith tempest isnt doing damage.
@@lucasbenfante That could be more of an influence from the holder of the knowledge themself though. Just something to stop and consider. I'll spoil further down Keep in mind that the MC is a unique case for nahobino as far as I can tell. So far every time one seems to be born the demon side seems to be doing the talking or at least mostly in control, as was the case with Dazai+Abdiel, Yuzuru+Koshimizu, Nuwa+Yakumo, and Sahori+Lahmu (In this fusion in the canon of creation Sahori fought back against Lahmu's influence long enough for them to be killed.) The MC is unique in the sense that as per Aogami's own choice to give him full control as to ensure they won't have conflict. I'm still working on canon of vengeance so I'm not entirely sure what's going on, but the physical appearance and ability to use the energy in a different style (more of a sycthe rather than a sword) might come from the new fusion, but the coloring of that energy may have more to do with the MC.
Put half your points into strength, the other half into agility. Learn Lunar Hurricane and Paraselene Blur. Sounds like a plan! Agility Nahobino, let's go!
Magic, Agility, and a lil bit of Luck for me with Moonlight Frost and Heavenly Ikuyumi. Level 99 with 150+ magic, 115 Agility, and 100+ Luck. Strength and Endurance are both in the mid 80s.
its still one of my favorite attacks since its piercing, might not do the most damage but it will do consistent damage perfect for taking out mitama too
Funny how Tsukuyomi says his Nahobino abilities are different from Susano'o/Aogami's, and yet the two Nahobino forms can use all the same skills and even use each other's blades. And Aogami!Nahobino can even use blatant Tsukuyomi attacks like Moonlight Frost!
in terms of gameplay, limiting certain moves based on form would be a pain to deal with. there would be no reason to use any of the nahobino's unique moves because you would not be able to keep them.
Also it does make sense that Nahobino can use both their sk8lls considering Aogami was cloned from Tsukuyomi and the fact that Susano-o and Tsukuyumi are sibling gods in shinto myth
I headcanon that Nahobino just kinda learns how to do the whip/tonfa style blade when he fuses with Tsukuyomi, and when he goes back to his Susano-o form, he realizes he can still do it, and just never bothered to try anything other than the straight blade
So Heavenly Ikuyumi says scales with how many debuffs are on the enemy- Have you seen just how much of a difference it makes? It being the magic equivalent of Murakumo would be neat.
It is a multiplier of 1,5 per debuff, so for a tarunda, rakunda, sukunda or debilitate, it gives a mulitplier of 3,375. Murakumo has 275 power, 330 when crit. Heavenly Ikuyumi has 150 base power. With the debilitate multiplier, it has 506 power. This makes it stronger than Murakumo, and with an ally which has an innate skill that lets you crit, like sandalphon, Lakshmi, Lahmu, Seth, you can crit with it as well.
@@General_C I don't believe the severity matters. It just checks how many debuffs there are. If it worked the other way, then it would be the strongest skill in the game, by a large margin.
@@spongbobsquarepants3922that pretty much limits you to just Lahmu and maybe Seth if you want to make use of Beelzebub alongside any of these magic crit ability demons. Guess it's time to do some Ara Mitama grinding then.
A bit of a spoiler so I’ll put this in the read more Aogami being Susano’o actually gives a reason for why most of the Nahobino’s unique skills seem to be storm-based. Summoning lightning clouds, tornadoes, tsunamis… and then there’s Profaned Land. A skill that deals high damage by dropping a dark liquid on the enemy. This might be referencing the aftereffects of the nuclear bombings on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. After the bombs went off, chemicals and radiation influenced nearby storm clouds, turning the rain that fell black. Anywhere the rain fell was irradiated. Tainted. Profaned. And with Susano’o being the god of storms, this black rain could possibly fall under his jurisdiction.
spoiler There's also Susano'o later identification with Gozu Tennoh which connects him with epidemics and disease, which is also the basis of Aogami/Susano'o being a descendant of the "Bull God" story made for SMT VV
It's more likely a reference to his encounter with Yamato-no-Orochi. Kushinadahime was going to be eaten by it before it's death, and she became his wife and the goddess of agriculture and rice -that's where the name Profaned Land probably comes from, with the animation/liquid being Yamato-no-Orochi's blood, which completely flooded the River Hi as he cut it to pieces. Murakumo is also named after the sword he found in Yamato's tail.
Looking at the comments there are some possibilities that seem more likely than others Those being the ones relating to Orochi. I really need to read up more on my mythology.
@@sapphire5780Support/ailment build Nahobino is actually really fun and viable, even moreso now than it was in the base game. I don't think it's a downside to be tied to him at all
@@johnny8363I think in theroy airmasa may deal more if all 8 are critical hits and charged. The number of light attacks might just trump the one big one in the same conditions
@@insidechaos4913Aramasa is 8 hits at 20 base power, Murakumo is 1 hit at 275, or 330 if a crit. So unless the damage formula uses square roots or something (like p4 does), Murakumo is stronger.
@@cold_ay_I think they meant Wrath Tempest which is 40 BP at 8 hits but is random target. Still worse tho unless you have an ally with Pandemonic Feast
Moonlight Frost is looking like one I'm definitely going to be adding to my build just because of the animation, the move is one of the reasons I peesonally enjoy the tsukuyomi boss fight so much
Hold on a moment: Lunation Flux specifically states that it "Doesn't consume a Press Turn Icon." Doesn't that technically mean you could put your ally away and use Lunation Flux again and again, never ending your turn until you are at full mp?
Combined with Omagatoki: Strategic (Or something like that?) which makes it so switching demons is free, you can literally just max your MP out if you’re patient enough
Is it rlly worth the patience tho? For regular battle it's easier and faster to just talk to demon you already have in your team and wait for them to heal you(happened often enough to be reliable) in boss fight, if you're gonna spend magatsushi anyway might as well just use the severe HP+mp drain one
Nahobino can now use Moonlight Frost!? I love it! ❤❤❤ Can't wait to see the signature skills of the Demons (if you want to do that video, of course. I'm not gonna force you or anything).
@@FazPersonais moonlight frost magic damage? Or strength? Update my brother said if it's elemental and it doesn't say strength specifically, it is then magic.
no, those can still be given to nahobino I chose not to include them in the video since they're not *actually* exclusive to nahobino anymore ( since demi fiend can be a party member ) If you want though, I can still make a video showing off all the demi fiend skills on nahobino!
@@codysonic1 Yes. You have to defeat him first, then if you talk to him, you have the option to fight him again, invite him to join you, or leave. If you invite him to join you, he joins as a guest character. He temporarily leaves if you return to fight him again (for obvious reasons), but he will rejoin you the moment the fight is over.
@@danielmayonaka8818 If you're with party members it doesn't quite work, because the least icons you can use per action is half by hitting weakness/passing turn, so at some point they'd run out. But if I understand it correctly, Lunation Flux consumes absolutely ZERO icons, so if you're alone, you can just spam it to get full recovery with no turn/MP cost, and then spam your strong but expensive skills. Of course, this would still be vulnerable to turn limit gimmicks, but the fact that you can have a Yu-Gi-Oh turn is quite silly.
@@jonathangoodwin5609 Yeah, the thing is that casting it is a free action. Sure, a net recovery of 9MP is next to nothing, but when you can spam it 20 times in a row for free... Also, I theorize that every time you get a new turn it procs recovery skills, so if you carry a Regen passive you can focus the MP on attacking because by the time you're finished spamming Lunation Flux you're back to full HP.
These look super cool and all, I really love Paraselene Blur, but... MURAKUMO! HYA! *3000 DAMAGE* Also helps that Murakumo is Almighty, meaning practically nothing resists it, and it doesn't need any prior skills to trigger or boost its damage besides crit, which 90% of the time you're going for anyway
Paraselene Blur tends to be a lot more explosive than Murakumo(600 total base power vs 330 and multi hit skill scales off higher i final damage calcs and has naturally higher crit procs) sure it needs a turn to set up but the turn you took to set it up is compensated by the fact that you make the enemy lose 2 icons while taking no damage, with elusive eclipse you have a counter that has the same power as Gugnir or slighty weaker than murakumo and with intercalation you get a free icon letting you prepare the next Paraselene blur on the next turn or throw the second one in the same turn
Yes, but the recovery is not much greater than its cost so it is relatively balanced, but it is still very strong if you need to recover some MP and don't have or don't want to consume your items
So is Heavenly Ikuyumi magic scaling or just purely off how many debuffs the enemy has? Looks like phys builds still get most of the cool stuff. Only other cool spell IMO is the new ice one that pierces. Also what's the purpose of the MP recovery skill? Spend 10 MP to regain 19? Is it's main purpose just to pass a turn without taking a press turn?
interesting how the only differences (atleast from what i noticed) between the 2 is that between the 2 routes/designs the moves are the same unless they finish with that one hand sign. the OG has the right hand above and the new one has the left hand above. and i think the fingers are positioned slightly differently
@@nekohallowking4762Once you reach the Empryean go to the Tokyo diet building and speak to the woman at the very front if you speak to her before Lucifer she’ll give you moonlight frost Lunar hurricane and paraselene blur
I've been wondering about the two forms Kei's has so far. Can they be switch in the settings or something like that from Aogami to Tsukuyomi and vice versa?
Seens like the new form is heavily reliant on evade and counter, I hope that the agility status has been buffed in this game then, doing CoC right now with str/vit build, but once I start CoV I really want to give a shoot at a Str/Agi build because of the new form.
They really really kind of lean you towards a strength build in these games lol not that im complaining even one of the best scenes in the endgame uses one of his best strength attacks 😂
Talk to the female researcher (the same one you need to talk before being able to start the original game DLC side quests) inside Tokyo Diet Building . She will give you the last 3 essences one at a time based on your progress. The last one is veeeery endgame. It's after you enter the Empyrean IIRC.
Hey does anybody know where to get the new skills? I must've missed them cause I'm at the end of the game. Sadly I can't find any resources online so help is appreciated
Can someone please explain to me how to get the new skills? I know that the original ones are obtained with the remains of the aogami models but I don't know how to get the new ones
I kinda wish they would've done unique animations for the skills that show the weapon based on whether you're in the initial form or the new form. It's kinda jarring seeing Nahobino struggling to adapt to the new weapon when first using the new form, then using the old weapon in all the existing skill animations.
My opinion on the new skills: Inflaming Divinity: Double Luster Candy at a third of the original cost being broken? Whaaaat? Nooo. Evergreen Dance: It's not amazing, but synergizes with and it's great for spamming Magatsuhi skills, so it's quite decent. Moonlight Frost: Doesn't scale with strength sadly, but it's a Severe All Pierce, so it could see some use. Lunation Flux: it doesnt consume a what now Lunar Hurricane: Looks really good, with hits scaling with AGI and power scaling with STR it could be really broken if the hit cap is high (which by the looks of it, it is). Question would be if it is affected by Omagatoki: Dance so you can ditch AGI and go full STR. Heavenly Ikuyumi: Haha Rasetsu Feast go brrrrr Luminescent Mirage & Paraselene Blur: LM is kinda expensive for one single dodge, but it's good for activating PB and wasting enemy icons. PB is White Dracostrike, but even better, so...
what do you mean unfortunately moonlight frost doesn't scale with strength the phys build has way to many scales of strength moves already and they also do more damage than magic they dont need more power
@@IdiotSandwich-yp2ke Because it looks like a physical attack not a magic attack. Its like they made a physcial attack but realized that they didn't make enough magic moves so they changed it
Gaea Rage and the other Demi-Fiend skills are still in the game and you get them the same way as in the original game: Defeat the Demi-Fiend. However, they're technically not exclusive to the Nahobino anymore.
To get the new skills like Heavenly Ikuyumi, you have to talk with the woman in the middle of the da'at tokoy diet building. She'll give you the essences.
There are only 3 essences for that type, and they'll be given at around every 10 levels. ( 80 being the latest )
You might also have to be at a certain point in the story, but I'm not 100% sure about that
From my experience, it's also tied to quest/virtual battle progression. I had to do all the side quests and consecutive virtual battles you can unlock just before your alignment locks you into one of the routes on Vengeance.
Heavenly Ikuyumi is from Aogamo type D located on the way to the 2nd dungeon, not from the woman in the tokyo diet building.
As far as Tsukuyomi essence, here's what I got. You get the base when you get the new Nahobino form. You get median essence when you reach the temple of eternity. The last Tsukuyomi essence, Ultimus, I'm not sure when you get that.
@@destroyerofworlds9138 when you clear temple and reach the final area
@@stormsand9 oh ok. Much appreciated! I JUST beat Dazai and Abdiel and reached the new area.
Fun fact talking to demons in the haunt in the new form heavily implies that the protagonist is *really* not in a good mood
Makes sense since... you know...
RIP
I was like “ oh that’s sad how do I get the new fo- OOOOOOOOHHHHH!!!” 🤣
They heard the change of room theme, and realised shit went down
i fuckin cries 😢
Lol they really got Casey back in the booth for 20 minutes to say like 10 more words
The new skills are really over the top even when compared to the originals. It almost gives an air that the Nahobino is _not_ fucking around this time.
Especially when you use them with the _intended_ forms. The Tsukuyomi skills almost feel like the Nahobino is 110% done with everybody's nonsense.
Which... I mean, _can you blame him!?_
@@thomasthecoolkid7228 No I can't.
So yeah. Trying to stand in his way is basically signing your own death sentence.
Not just that I feel like he’s been done with everyone’s shit ever since fusing with Tsukuyomi. The most striking example to me would be
SPOILERS
Right before the fight with Abdiel and Dazai where in the cutscene, the protag aggressively shakes off Dazai’s hand off his shoulder and went straight for the kill. I don’t think that’s the kind of thing he would do in his Aogami form imo
@@zambiep5 We only see this level of aggressive expression from the Nahobino in base five when he uses the Arrow Rain skill or whatever it's called, the look on his face says he's ready to wipe out entire armies and that you're a fool to stand in his way, regardless of if you're an angel or a demon.
If Atlus ever does add a neutral route, they should have the Nahobino straight up bitch slap both Mastema and Lilith as a means of saying "If anyone's gonna decide what the new world becomes, it's going to be _me_ ."
Aogami form had this feeling of controlled power for a greater purpose
Tsukuyomi form is Nahobino on a fucking WARPATH after all the shit that happened to him
LIKE A MOONBEAM… PALE AND FLEETING
Level 4 Onmoraki: WHAT DID I DO?
Nahobino: *You were born*
@@sovietnomad6651Real 💀
He attacked with Agi first, it was self defense
That was badass lol
@@blastmole299 found the Texan
Several Slimes and Onmorakis were harmed during the making of this video
😂😂😂
Good.
Pros of new outfit:
Scythe blade
Purple lines
Cool face mask
Cons of new outfit:
No long blue hair :
They should've given him long silver hair IMO
I always saw the blade as an giant karambit
no long blue hair is a pro to me
I think Wrath Tempest is the first attack that really let's you know that Nahobino really isn't just a demon, he's a *God.* The way the camera angle looks up at him makes you feel like the enemy in that situation. A pitiful little shit that is about to take 8 sweet hits of weak physical damage with greater effect on critical
Edit to clarify, I don't think Wrath Tempest is weak, that's just the in-game description 😭😭😭
Still wish it was stronger but definitely agreed 💯
"weak" hits. Like it doesn't tear through everything 😂
It is strong….its power is boosted when it crits + crit damage + zealot (which all physical builds are building regardless). Im assuming yall have a mixed nahobino set up instead of a dedicated build and is why your wraith tempest isnt doing damage.
@Februarys that's the in-game description, it's described as being "8 weak hits"
@@Februarys
Nah, I went full Physicalmighty for the Nahobino
I was hoping we would get more unique elemental magic skills but moonlight frost being usable is cool
Yeah, I'm a bit sad how Shafted magic Nahobino is.
Loyal magic-users always get the brunt of the stick@@jonathangoodwin5609
are ice, force, light, and almighty not elements
@@hyperten5906 2 of the 4 skills you are referring to are strength based skills. But I will say I left out "endgame" in my original comment.
Moonlight Frost and Heavenly Ikuyumi are the only 2 exclusive endgame magic skills worth using imo.
I wish we got more great magic skills.
I wish Murakumo and some other skills were more purple when in the new form.
The new blade form isn't even purple they kept the blue which does not fit the purple form 😢 They got lazy as hell even for the animations
@@lucasbenfante That could be more of an influence from the holder of the knowledge themself though. Just something to stop and consider. I'll spoil further down
Keep in mind that the MC is a unique case for nahobino as far as I can tell. So far every time one seems to be born the demon side seems to be doing the talking or at least mostly in control, as was the case with Dazai+Abdiel, Yuzuru+Koshimizu, Nuwa+Yakumo, and Sahori+Lahmu (In this fusion in the canon of creation Sahori fought back against Lahmu's influence long enough for them to be killed.)
The MC is unique in the sense that as per Aogami's own choice to give him full control as to ensure they won't have conflict. I'm still working on canon of vengeance so I'm not entirely sure what's going on, but the physical appearance and ability to use the energy in a different style (more of a sycthe rather than a sword) might come from the new fusion, but the coloring of that energy may have more to do with the MC.
@@lucasbenfanteStopping at 5:56 it looks purple to me
Aogami also just means "blue god", so it makes sense that it's blue.
Either way, it's not really something to be mad about
@@professionalkek8937 yeah but Aogami is Susanoo not Tsukuyomi.
Put half your points into strength, the other half into agility. Learn Lunar Hurricane and Paraselene Blur.
Sounds like a plan! Agility Nahobino, let's go!
I went for strength and magic build for Murakumo, Paraselene Blur and Heavenly Ikuyumi
Magic, Agility, and a lil bit of Luck for me with Moonlight Frost and Heavenly Ikuyumi. Level 99 with 150+ magic, 115 Agility, and 100+ Luck. Strength and Endurance are both in the mid 80s.
We're do u learn it
Took me a while to realise that the Moonlight Frost is Magic scaling.
its still one of my favorite attacks since its piercing, might not do the most damage but it will do consistent damage perfect for taking out mitama too
@@brandonwithnell612 Mine too, it was especially helpful during the Shiva fight!
I like it a lot more than Murakumo every turn. Pairs well with Thalasic Calamity for when I'm not resisted too
I like Casey Mongillo’s voice work for the new skills, it gives even more life/sides to the Nahobino ^^
The new look of the nahobino is cool but nothing beats the majestic blue long hair, it‘s just immaculate *_*
I'm torn. I like the ninja like outfit of the second one but I do like the flowing hair of the original outfit.
they shouldve done something similar with the alt form instead like a long silver ponytail
I prefer the new form both are henshin asf. But the new one is too toketsu in style wayyy better.
Gayy
Nahobino needed the haircut.
Funny how Tsukuyomi says his Nahobino abilities are different from Susano'o/Aogami's, and yet the two Nahobino forms can use all the same skills and even use each other's blades.
And Aogami!Nahobino can even use blatant Tsukuyomi attacks like Moonlight Frost!
in terms of gameplay, limiting certain moves based on form would be a pain to deal with. there would be no reason to use any of the nahobino's unique moves because you would not be able to keep them.
Also it does make sense that Nahobino can use both their sk8lls considering Aogami was cloned from Tsukuyomi and the fact that Susano-o and Tsukuyumi are sibling gods in shinto myth
I headcanon that Nahobino just kinda learns how to do the whip/tonfa style blade when he fuses with Tsukuyomi, and when he goes back to his Susano-o form, he realizes he can still do it, and just never bothered to try anything other than the straight blade
They are from the same family anyways consider that family reunion or something
Oh that self-MP charge is neat
AND DOESN'T CONSUME PRESS TURN?
It's basically the better pass button
Wonder if there's a new divinity that allows you to activate that when you press skip
So Heavenly Ikuyumi says scales with how many debuffs are on the enemy-
Have you seen just how much of a difference it makes? It being the magic equivalent of Murakumo would be neat.
It is a multiplier of 1,5 per debuff, so for a tarunda, rakunda, sukunda or debilitate, it gives a mulitplier of 3,375. Murakumo has 275 power, 330 when crit. Heavenly Ikuyumi has 150 base power. With the debilitate multiplier, it has 506 power. This makes it stronger than Murakumo, and with an ally which has an innate skill that lets you crit, like sandalphon, Lakshmi, Lahmu, Seth, you can crit with it as well.
Does it stack depending on how severe the buffs/debuffs are, or do you only need to apply everything once?
@@General_C I don't believe the severity matters. It just checks how many debuffs there are. If it worked the other way, then it would be the strongest skill in the game, by a large margin.
@@spongbobsquarepants3922that pretty much limits you to just Lahmu and maybe Seth if you want to make use of Beelzebub alongside any of these magic crit ability demons. Guess it's time to do some Ara Mitama grinding then.
A bit of a spoiler so I’ll put this in the read more
Aogami being Susano’o actually gives a reason for why most of the Nahobino’s unique skills seem to be storm-based. Summoning lightning clouds, tornadoes, tsunamis… and then there’s Profaned Land. A skill that deals high damage by dropping a dark liquid on the enemy.
This might be referencing the aftereffects of the nuclear bombings on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. After the bombs went off, chemicals and radiation influenced nearby storm clouds, turning the rain that fell black. Anywhere the rain fell was irradiated. Tainted. Profaned. And with Susano’o being the god of storms, this black rain could possibly fall under his jurisdiction.
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There's also Susano'o later identification with Gozu Tennoh which connects him with epidemics and disease, which is also the basis of Aogami/Susano'o being a descendant of the "Bull God" story made for SMT VV
It's more likely a reference to his encounter with Yamato-no-Orochi. Kushinadahime was going to be eaten by it before it's death, and she became his wife and the goddess of agriculture and rice -that's where the name Profaned Land probably comes from, with the animation/liquid being Yamato-no-Orochi's blood, which completely flooded the River Hi as he cut it to pieces. Murakumo is also named after the sword he found in Yamato's tail.
Pretty sure profaned land is a reference how he got orochi drunk so he could kill him
Looking at the comments there are some possibilities that seem more likely than others
Those being the ones relating to Orochi. I really need to read up more on my mythology.
I won't lie, I wish he had silver long hair instead of it being short
So glad he has short hair, suits him very well
1:13 also I’m sorry that’s not broken whatsoever
That is as much as a tertakarn andbuffs dont last forever so i think it is kinda bad in comparesing to some other skills
Not that broken considering it's only single target 3:54 This is potentially broken if only it's not mc exclusive
@blastmole299 Yeah, that is basically the main thing holding it back. It's a decent support move exclusive to your main damage dealer.
No demon run gonna have fun
@@sapphire5780Support/ailment build Nahobino is actually really fun and viable, even moreso now than it was in the base game. I don't think it's a downside to be tied to him at all
Murakumo still reigns supreme I see.
Some of the new skills are quite strong, but yes, murakumo is still the best option for dealing damage
@@johnny8363I think in theroy airmasa may deal more if all 8 are critical hits and charged. The number of light attacks might just trump the one big one in the same conditions
@@insidechaos4913Aramasa is 8 hits at 20 base power, Murakumo is 1 hit at 275, or 330 if a crit. So unless the damage formula uses square roots or something (like p4 does), Murakumo is stronger.
@@cold_ay_I think they meant Wrath Tempest which is 40 BP at 8 hits but is random target. Still worse tho unless you have an ally with Pandemonic Feast
Try heavenly ikuyumi. It deals more damage than murakumo after applying all 3 debuffs.
Wow the voice lines here are 10/10. Thanks for making this video!
Glad you liked it!
@@FazPersona If possible, you gotta make for the Japanese version, I heard their voice lines are more cold and badass.
@@andytan2960
This is true, I only ever played VV in Japanese
strength wins again. rip unique magic
Shame, Heavenly Ikuyumi is awesome too
At least we have an option for endgame magic now, even if it is ultimately worse for single targets
Reminds me of my build in smt 4. I cast gun.
Its why we Got mods to make up for that bullshit :D
Tbf it's better than nocturne lmfao
You actually have options this time
inflaming Divinity is such a great skill for early game, it's basically a single target Luster candy but double the buff
Moonlight Frost is looking like one I'm definitely going to be adding to my build just because of the animation, the move is one of the reasons I peesonally enjoy the tsukuyomi boss fight so much
Hold on a moment: Lunation Flux specifically states that it "Doesn't consume a Press Turn Icon." Doesn't that technically mean you could put your ally away and use Lunation Flux again and again, never ending your turn until you are at full mp?
Correct.
@@gackybass if you had the patience, this could be broken as yell.
Combined with Omagatoki: Strategic (Or something like that?) which makes it so switching demons is free, you can literally just max your MP out if you’re patient enough
Is it rlly worth the patience tho? For regular battle it's easier and faster to just talk to demon you already have in your team and wait for them to heal you(happened often enough to be reliable) in boss fight, if you're gonna spend magatsushi anyway might as well just use the severe HP+mp drain one
Oh I’m definitely doing a physical build this when I buy this.😊
Onmoraki watching as the Nahobino splits the heavens open with a bow and arrow they manifested from nothing
He even stopped to fidget with the bow before he got to using it
Nahobino can now use Moonlight Frost!? I love it! ❤❤❤
Can't wait to see the signature skills of the Demons (if you want to do that video, of course. I'm not gonna force you or anything).
I got you :)
@@FazPersonais moonlight frost magic damage? Or strength?
Update my brother said if it's elemental and it doesn't say strength specifically, it is then magic.
@@uberhuber7903 it's magic
This is why the Nahobino is a God,
literally
if i had a issue..its that for moonlight frost he does not say "theres no dodging this"
lunar hurricane goes crazy
Do u think its good when it combines with impaler animus?
8:17 Paraselene blur looks better on aogami’s form due to the blue lighting up IT LOOKS AWESOME
Oh also, does this mean Demi-fiend's essence no longer gives the unique nahobino skills from the original game? Or can those go on other demons now?
no, those can still be given to nahobino
I chose not to include them in the video since they're not *actually* exclusive to nahobino anymore ( since demi fiend can be a party member )
If you want though, I can still make a video showing off all the demi fiend skills on nahobino!
@@FazPersona That'd be cool to see too! Thanks!
@@FazPersona play demi fiend theme while you are at it
Demi Fiend can join you now?!
@@codysonic1 Yes. You have to defeat him first, then if you talk to him, you have the option to fight him again, invite him to join you, or leave. If you invite him to join you, he joins as a guest character. He temporarily leaves if you return to fight him again (for obvious reasons), but he will rejoin you the moment the fight is over.
One of the things I was looking for the most was the new skills, I'm glad they're so cool!
Also Lunation Flux does not consume a WHAT?
How does that even work when you are alone? If it's the same case as with party members then that skill could be broken 💀
@@danielmayonaka8818 If you're with party members it doesn't quite work, because the least icons you can use per action is half by hitting weakness/passing turn, so at some point they'd run out.
But if I understand it correctly, Lunation Flux consumes absolutely ZERO icons, so if you're alone, you can just spam it to get full recovery with no turn/MP cost, and then spam your strong but expensive skills. Of course, this would still be vulnerable to turn limit gimmicks, but the fact that you can have a Yu-Gi-Oh turn is quite silly.
Yeah, but it barely heals more MP than it costs. So it will give you maybe one more skill use, so it balances out by barely doing anything.
@@jonathangoodwin5609 Yeah, the thing is that casting it is a free action. Sure, a net recovery of 9MP is next to nothing, but when you can spam it 20 times in a row for free... Also, I theorize that every time you get a new turn it procs recovery skills, so if you carry a Regen passive you can focus the MP on attacking because by the time you're finished spamming Lunation Flux you're back to full HP.
Lunation Flux is unusable when the Nahobino is the only active party member, unfortunately.
It can only be used with two or more psrty members.
Faz how are you liking the narrative and characters in the vengeance route so far? Do you have any favorites?
much more than vanilla smt v. I really like Atsuta, and I also enjoy Yoko and Tao's dynamic
@@FazPersona Man, We are back. Thank you
@@Andy-sj4ip thank god, cause vanilla smt 5 nail everything but the cast and story, that some good new to hear
No Onmorakis or Slimes were hurt in the making of this video
I just noticed by seeing footage back to back, but the two nahobino forms take different stances. One faces left, one to the right.
Smt V is among my favorite in the series and I have been playing since megami tensei digital devil Story 😭 💀
I'm starting to become a fan of the crescent blades
Moon light frost is the reason I go for Ice magic build, I was going for almighty before that.
These look super cool and all, I really love Paraselene Blur, but...
MURAKUMO! HYA!
*3000 DAMAGE*
Also helps that Murakumo is Almighty, meaning practically nothing resists it, and it doesn't need any prior skills to trigger or boost its damage besides crit, which 90% of the time you're going for anyway
If only Paraselene was a piercing attack, then you could deal 1k dmg 4 times and nuke your foe every hit.
Paraselene Blur tends to be a lot more explosive than Murakumo(600 total base power vs 330 and multi hit skill scales off higher i final damage calcs and has naturally higher crit procs) sure it needs a turn to set up but the turn you took to set it up is compensated by the fact that you make the enemy lose 2 icons while taking no damage, with elusive eclipse you have a counter that has the same power as Gugnir or slighty weaker than murakumo and with intercalation you get a free icon letting you prepare the next Paraselene blur on the next turn or throw the second one in the same turn
All the new moves are busted as hell especially evergreen and the mp recovery one
oh yeah, i'm going full on mag build this time.
So you went with the physical build nice
Thanks faz I could not for the life of me find the new essences but now I do
Wait, if you use Lunation Flux while only having Nahobino in the party, does it mean you can refill your mp for free?
Yes, but the recovery is not much greater than its cost so it is relatively balanced, but it is still very strong if you need to recover some MP and don't have or don't want to consume your items
Divine Arrowfall with the new form is just not the same without the long hair whipping back and forth
6:10 does that means you can just spam this when you're solo? Also support build MC is just even better now
I tried it
Unfortunately no
@@l30ng62 That's unfortunate, so it only doesn't consume your turn if there's another team member?
can anyone tell me how to get lunar hurricane and paraselene blur
So is Heavenly Ikuyumi magic scaling or just purely off how many debuffs the enemy has? Looks like phys builds still get most of the cool stuff. Only other cool spell IMO is the new ice one that pierces.
Also what's the purpose of the MP recovery skill? Spend 10 MP to regain 19? Is it's main purpose just to pass a turn without taking a press turn?
Mag scaling
You can get the cost down to 8 and the yield up to 21, but yeah it's mostly just a free pass. It can be pretty useful in the right situation.
where the hell are the new skills?!?
i’ve only found inflaming divinity and evergreen dance so far
interesting how the only differences (atleast from what i noticed) between the 2 is that between the 2 routes/designs the moves are the same unless they finish with that one hand sign. the OG has the right hand above and the new one has the left hand above. and i think the fingers are positioned slightly differently
Hey Faz, where did you find the Divine Arrowfall in the Vengeance route? I’ve been looking all over.
Hello Fax can you upload the animation of Nahobino using an item I cannot find it anywhere on youtube :(
0:31 damn bro seems pretty nervous.
Hey Faz where did you find Lunar Hurricane and Paraselene blur I’ve found all the others except these two and Mirage
Where do you find moonlit frost? Or basically any of the new skills if you don’t mind
@@nekohallowking4762Once you reach the Empryean go to the Tokyo diet building and speak to the woman at the very front if you speak to her before Lucifer she’ll give you moonlight frost Lunar hurricane and paraselene blur
@@nekohallowking4762 found it out today it's the researcher who gives the dlc quest diet building.
@@andrewwillcockson8120 thats the first one where to get the rest?
@@PiXMusicaX progress through the game some and come back she will have the other two later.
I've been wondering about the two forms Kei's has so far. Can they be switch in the settings or something like that from Aogami to Tsukuyomi and vice versa?
Paraselene blur is just how a nahobino hold his fart.
Seens like the new form is heavily reliant on evade and counter, I hope that the agility status has been buffed in this game then, doing CoC right now with str/vit build, but once I start CoV I really want to give a shoot at a Str/Agi build because of the new form.
Thankfully you can respec now too
by fire... WE RISE 🔥
Revival Chant started off just like Fushiguro summoning Mahoraga 😂 I did a double take
Does anyone know if sukunda/Sukukaja affects the hit rate for Lunar Hurricane?
Is the new nahobino form available in new game plus from the beginning on each timeline??
They really really kind of lean you towards a strength build in these games lol not that im complaining even one of the best scenes in the endgame uses one of his best strength attacks 😂
how do i get paraselene blur and divine harrowfall?
How u get remaining tsukuyomi essences since i was able only find base one.
Talk to the female researcher (the same one you need to talk before being able to start the original game DLC side quests) inside Tokyo Diet Building . She will give you the last 3 essences one at a time based on your progress. The last one is veeeery endgame. It's after you enter the Empyrean IIRC.
@@TaeWolf thank you i was about to go insane looking for them.
@@TaeWolf Thanks bro
Hey does anybody know where to get the new skills? I must've missed them cause I'm at the end of the game. Sadly I can't find any resources online so help is appreciated
Update its in the Tokyo diet building, talk to the researchers.
So agility is actually important now? Cool. I have no idea how many bosses are weak to wind though.
That is the most gimmicky skill ever. Epic.
How to obtain Heavenly Ikuyumi?
aogami type D essence, not 100% sure where it was found but I remember it being in the 3rd or 4th area
You know mf is not playing when he starts speaking haiku before attacking
Could you post the demon combo skills next?
I do plan on doing that yes!
my lunation flux is blocked. how to use it??
Can someone please explain to me how to get the new skills? I know that the original ones are obtained with the remains of the aogami models but I don't know how to get the new ones
Question, how do I get moonlight frost? Because now I want it.
How do you get the heavenly ikuyumi
Can you get the new skills in Canon of crestion as well or are theye exclusive to the vengeance route ?
These poor early game enemies 😂.
at least for slimes they're failed fusions / summoning so it'd be a mercy 💀
Where can I get the skill at 7:58 ? I play through the CoV but can't find it.
There’s a lady researcher in the diet building who gives you tsukuyomi essences after you transform
Do you plan on showing the demi-fiend skills on both nahobino ?
Can you switch between forms or is this NG+?
What's he saying in Evergreen Dance? “Evergreen leaves, ??? my victory, and dance eternal.” I'm hard of hearing and can't figure it out.
I have managed to get Tsukiomi's first spell. But how do I get the others?
I was lvl 80, but you might have to be at the temple as well for the dialogue to appear
I kinda wish they would've done unique animations for the skills that show the weapon based on whether you're in the initial form or the new form. It's kinda jarring seeing Nahobino struggling to adapt to the new weapon when first using the new form, then using the old weapon in all the existing skill animations.
How far do i need to play to unlock the new form what's the average lvl range when ppl usually get it ?
I'm new to this Shin Megami Tensei game. Why is there two different Nahobino now? I'm curious.
story reasons, play the canon of vengeance route to find out!
Does anyone know what V-kun says for Inflaming Divinity? It sounds like, "My fire... e-rise!"
"By fire we rise" I think
@@Liezuli Thank you; that's been bothering me for a while.
Lunar Hurricane:
Guile and Charlie: “You make us proud!”
Wait a second how many hits of lunar hurricane was that!?
I can't find any info about it anywhere, how do you get Lunar Hurricane? It looks way too cool not to use!
Play the Canon of Vengeance and talk to a scientist in the Tokyo Diet Building after you enter the Temple of Eternity.
My opinion on the new skills:
Inflaming Divinity: Double Luster Candy at a third of the original cost being broken? Whaaaat? Nooo.
Evergreen Dance: It's not amazing, but synergizes with and it's great for spamming Magatsuhi skills, so it's quite decent.
Moonlight Frost: Doesn't scale with strength sadly, but it's a Severe All Pierce, so it could see some use.
Lunation Flux: it doesnt consume a what now
Lunar Hurricane: Looks really good, with hits scaling with AGI and power scaling with STR it could be really broken if the hit cap is high (which by the looks of it, it is). Question would be if it is affected by Omagatoki: Dance so you can ditch AGI and go full STR.
Heavenly Ikuyumi: Haha Rasetsu Feast go brrrrr
Luminescent Mirage & Paraselene Blur: LM is kinda expensive for one single dodge, but it's good for activating PB and wasting enemy icons. PB is White Dracostrike, but even better, so...
Inflaming divinity is single target
what do you mean unfortunately moonlight frost doesn't scale with strength the phys build has way to many scales of strength moves already and they also do more damage than magic they dont need more power
@@IdiotSandwich-yp2ke Because it looks like a physical attack not a magic attack. Its like they made a physcial attack but realized that they didn't make enough magic moves so they changed it
The acquisition location for Aogami Type 0 has changed. Where can I obtain it?
I'm pretty sure it was in the part where you fight vasuki/beelzebub
Is the Silver form only available in the canon of vengeance?
Yes. Exclusive to the new storyline
Where do I find the essence for Sakanagi in Canon of Vengeance?
Where do you get Evergreen Dance? Thank for the help!
Are you doing all the periapts ?
Where are techniques like Gaea Earth and Freikugal. It feels like Demifiemd is destroying entire universes.
Gaea Rage and the other Demi-Fiend skills are still in the game and you get them the same way as in the original game: Defeat the Demi-Fiend. However, they're technically not exclusive to the Nahobino anymore.
Is there a way to change nahobino forms??
So am i stupid? I literally cannot find wrath tempest essence anywhere? And its changed from og in CoC