My crazy theory- Ruby is a demigod, the daughter of Horus. She was placed in the doctor's way to help save the world, as Horus defeats Set in the original mythology. Mrs. Flood is a timelady, but not the Rani. She's working with Horus to ensure that Ruby is where she needs to be.
Oh dang, Horus! Didn't even think about that, but that fits really well. It even pulls in a bit more of the Egyptian mythology, since Horus was the son of Set's (Sutekh's) murdered brother, as opposed to actually being Set's brother, unlike the Doctor Who versions of Sutekh and Horus. So if Ruby is the daughter of Horus, it brings the whole "avenging offspring" element into the story. I like it! And yeah Mrs. Flood being a Time Lady and watching over Ruby makes sense. She's gotta be Time Lord-related in some way.
Mrs. Flood - I have always felt that something had to have happened to her between earlier in Church on Ruby Road when she accuses her neighbour Abdul of putting the police box by her house, and the end when she not only accepts the police box but recognizes it as a TARDIS. ... A couple of reactors said she wears the same outfit throughout, but that's not correct. I am so curious about her!!
Yeah she’s a real conundrum! My theory is kinda wobbly on her, I gotta admit. The idea that she went on an adventure between the beginning and end of the Church on Ruby Road is a great theory that I think holds a lot of water.
I feel almost certain that this is true. Something happened to her between those moments and I think that will be shown in the finale. perhaps she will journey back to Ruby Road with the Doctor and be merged with the Tardis somehow and then returned to that moment where she breaks the 4th wall.
Could be! My only thing about that theory is that the woman is very clearly a woman in these scenes, body type and all that. So are you saying that’s a future regeneration of the Doctor? Or perhaps 13 came by to help out? Or the Doctor is wearing like a holographic disguise or something. But yeah, in the world of Doctor Who it’s totally possible.
Re: 4th wall breaks. When a character looks straight ahead (i.e. into the camera), it doesn't *always* mean a 4th wall break. There has to be an acknowledgment of the audience in some way. Sometimes, characters look into the camera to show a point of view. At the end of Boom, there is no acknowledgement of the audience; they are actually looking at John Vater, Splice, and Mundy.
Good point. I think the Boom one made me feel like it was a sort of “stealth” fourth wall break, because there have been so many this season and the way they turned and looked towards the camera made it feel like it could be interpreted that way. I can tell the difference between a fourth wall break and the character just looking towards the direction of the camera, or the camera being the POV of another character, but I feel like if my theory is true, then RTD is playing with the language of cinema to sneak in these 4th wall breaks disguised as regular shots, as clues for who is secretly a god. Wild I know, but I really like this concept if it’s true.
I really enjoy your story analysis and reviews of the episodes. I like these finale theories a lot more than your Rani one which I felt pretty strongly was off base from the start. Much of this meshes with what I’ve been thinking about how the finale will explain these events and tie this season together. I’ve been thinking that Susan Twists character might be the subconscious of the Tardis.
Thanks! Haha yeah my Rani theory did end up being pretty wild, but I had fun making it! I guess I figured there were enough Sutkh theory videos out there so I wanted to cover a different angle, and then I ended up convincing myself that was the right path lol. Now that Sutekh has been revealed, all the other puzzle pieces feel like they're falling into place a lot easier. I don't think I've got everything right, but I feel like some of this makes sense.
Exactly! I didn't dive too deep into the Timeless Child or Doctor origins in this cuz I feel like this season is so Ruby-centric, but that's exactly the logic I'm working off of. His unknown origins just fits too perfectly into RTD's new fantastical god themes. Maybe all gods originate from another plane of existence and enter our realm through wormholes in space-time. Maybe that's why they can break the fourth wall and see us, because they're used to and aware of the different realms of reality.
Great video! I def don't think that the woman in black is Ruby's mother. I like your theory that it's Ruby herself. That would connect nicely with 73 yards. I'm still not sure whether Mrs. Flood is good or evil. She seemed like a baddie when she refused to get grandma her tea, but that could just be what they want us to think... we shall see!
Thanks! Turns out it's a bit different than I predicted to say the least. Still curious who Mrs. Flood is. I'm really trying to resist thinking she's the Rani again lol.
But the Rani could not appear because of copyright reasons, right? What do you know about that? Please touch on the subject! Your videos are very interesting. #GiveCherryHerCuppa
Thanks so much! Ah right, the copyright issues! I covered that a bit at the tail end of my Rani theory video but I can summarize here, as well as a few new tidbits of info I learned since then: As far as I can tell, nobody publicly knows the status of the rights to the Rani character. After Pip and Jane Baker, the original writers and creators of the character, died, nobody knows who the rights passed to, since they had no children. It could be just be in the hands of an unresponsive relative, or a law firm or something. The BBC did launch investigations to find the owner, but nothing has ever been publicly announced. However, there are a few pieces of evidence that I feel indicate that the BBC / Disney have acquired the rights and just not publicly announced it (probably to prevent spoilers if/when they decide to use the character). There is a new playing card released last year and added to the Doctor Who Magic the Gathering set that is for the Rani character, explicitly designed to be the Kate O'mara version from "Time and the Rani." There is a line that was cut from the original draft of "The Giggle" where Mel goes on a short tirade explaining who the Rani is and her adventures in "Time and the Rani," as well as a line that did make it into Space Babies where 15 explicitly name-drops the character. Finally, Ncuti Gatwa stated in an interview that he specifically wants to face off against the Rani. I don't think they could make the card without having the rights to the character, and the cast and writers seem to be intentionally weaving her back into the lore of the show. That's all I've got though, a bit slim I know! But I have hope, because I think she's a great character that deserves the NuWho treatment.
The Eye of Horus looked like a ruby so maybe Ruby is a manifestation of the eye and is the key to trapping Sutekh again.
That’s a cool connection, maybe!
Thank you so much for the history of Sutekh. I have seen very little of classic Who, so I was not familiar with them. You've helped fill in some gaps!
No problem! You’re exactly the kind of fan I’m trying to get the info to 😊 Hope you’re enjoying this season!
My crazy theory- Ruby is a demigod, the daughter of Horus. She was placed in the doctor's way to help save the world, as Horus defeats Set in the original mythology. Mrs. Flood is a timelady, but not the Rani. She's working with Horus to ensure that Ruby is where she needs to be.
Oh dang, Horus! Didn't even think about that, but that fits really well. It even pulls in a bit more of the Egyptian mythology, since Horus was the son of Set's (Sutekh's) murdered brother, as opposed to actually being Set's brother, unlike the Doctor Who versions of Sutekh and Horus. So if Ruby is the daughter of Horus, it brings the whole "avenging offspring" element into the story. I like it! And yeah Mrs. Flood being a Time Lady and watching over Ruby makes sense. She's gotta be Time Lord-related in some way.
Mrs Flood being a tardis for my first theory, way back when the episode aired
Nice! The visual clues and her final line just fit it too perfectly, right?
Mrs. Flood - I have always felt that something had to have happened to her between earlier in Church on Ruby Road when she accuses her neighbour Abdul of putting the police box by her house, and the end when she not only accepts the police box but recognizes it as a TARDIS. ... A couple of reactors said she wears the same outfit throughout, but that's not correct. I am so curious about her!!
Yeah she’s a real conundrum! My theory is kinda wobbly on her, I gotta admit. The idea that she went on an adventure between the beginning and end of the Church on Ruby Road is a great theory that I think holds a lot of water.
I feel almost certain that this is true. Something happened to her between those moments and I think that will be shown in the finale. perhaps she will journey back to Ruby Road with the Doctor and be merged with the Tardis somehow and then returned to that moment where she breaks the 4th wall.
Or, It’s the Bootstrap paradox where The Cloaked Woman is The Doctor themself
Could be! My only thing about that theory is that the woman is very clearly a woman in these scenes, body type and all that. So are you saying that’s a future regeneration of the Doctor? Or perhaps 13 came by to help out? Or the Doctor is wearing like a holographic disguise or something. But yeah, in the world of Doctor Who it’s totally possible.
Re: 4th wall breaks. When a character looks straight ahead (i.e. into the camera), it doesn't *always* mean a 4th wall break. There has to be an acknowledgment of the audience in some way. Sometimes, characters look into the camera to show a point of view. At the end of Boom, there is no acknowledgement of the audience; they are actually looking at John Vater, Splice, and Mundy.
Good point. I think the Boom one made me feel like it was a sort of “stealth” fourth wall break, because there have been so many this season and the way they turned and looked towards the camera made it feel like it could be interpreted that way. I can tell the difference between a fourth wall break and the character just looking towards the direction of the camera, or the camera being the POV of another character, but I feel like if my theory is true, then RTD is playing with the language of cinema to sneak in these 4th wall breaks disguised as regular shots, as clues for who is secretly a god. Wild I know, but I really like this concept if it’s true.
I really enjoy your story analysis and reviews of the episodes. I like these finale theories a lot more than your Rani one which I felt pretty strongly was off base from the start. Much of this meshes with what I’ve been thinking about how the finale will explain these events and tie this season together. I’ve been thinking that Susan Twists character might be the subconscious of the Tardis.
Thanks! Haha yeah my Rani theory did end up being pretty wild, but I had fun making it! I guess I figured there were enough Sutkh theory videos out there so I wanted to cover a different angle, and then I ended up convincing myself that was the right path lol. Now that Sutekh has been revealed, all the other puzzle pieces feel like they're falling into place a lot easier. I don't think I've got everything right, but I feel like some of this makes sense.
The doctor beeibg a god eould also work with the Timeless child thing. He was found at a place and sayed to come from the other side.
Exactly! I didn't dive too deep into the Timeless Child or Doctor origins in this cuz I feel like this season is so Ruby-centric, but that's exactly the logic I'm working off of. His unknown origins just fits too perfectly into RTD's new fantastical god themes. Maybe all gods originate from another plane of existence and enter our realm through wormholes in space-time. Maybe that's why they can break the fourth wall and see us, because they're used to and aware of the different realms of reality.
Ruby is the doctors 7th grandmother
Nice 13 reference
Great video! I def don't think that the woman in black is Ruby's mother. I like your theory that it's Ruby herself. That would connect nicely with 73 yards. I'm still not sure whether Mrs. Flood is good or evil. She seemed like a baddie when she refused to get grandma her tea, but that could just be what they want us to think... we shall see!
Thanks! Turns out it's a bit different than I predicted to say the least. Still curious who Mrs. Flood is. I'm really trying to resist thinking she's the Rani again lol.
But the Rani could not appear because of copyright reasons, right? What do you know about that? Please touch on the subject! Your videos are very interesting.
#GiveCherryHerCuppa
Thanks so much! Ah right, the copyright issues! I covered that a bit at the tail end of my Rani theory video but I can summarize here, as well as a few new tidbits of info I learned since then: As far as I can tell, nobody publicly knows the status of the rights to the Rani character. After Pip and Jane Baker, the original writers and creators of the character, died, nobody knows who the rights passed to, since they had no children. It could be just be in the hands of an unresponsive relative, or a law firm or something. The BBC did launch investigations to find the owner, but nothing has ever been publicly announced. However, there are a few pieces of evidence that I feel indicate that the BBC / Disney have acquired the rights and just not publicly announced it (probably to prevent spoilers if/when they decide to use the character). There is a new playing card released last year and added to the Doctor Who Magic the Gathering set that is for the Rani character, explicitly designed to be the Kate O'mara version from "Time and the Rani." There is a line that was cut from the original draft of "The Giggle" where Mel goes on a short tirade explaining who the Rani is and her adventures in "Time and the Rani," as well as a line that did make it into Space Babies where 15 explicitly name-drops the character. Finally, Ncuti Gatwa stated in an interview that he specifically wants to face off against the Rani. I don't think they could make the card without having the rights to the character, and the cast and writers seem to be intentionally weaving her back into the lore of the show. That's all I've got though, a bit slim I know! But I have hope, because I think she's a great character that deserves the NuWho treatment.
Nice ideas, but a lot of bad calls in this one.
Well, RTD planted a lot of bad seeds so it’s not that surprising really. I was just working with the false evidence presented to me all season. 🤷🏻♂️