2013 Hyundai Elantra Ticking Noise due to Bore Scoring and Piston Slap
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- The dreaded ticking happens to these engines when they are cold or are operated in a very cold climate such as Canada. This car has been in Minnesota the past few winters and has developed the tick of death. I hear that they are now replacing short blocks in Canada under warranty and extended warranty. Here is the video that shows the bore scoring and piston coating material degraded:
• WHY MY HYUNDAI ENGINE ...
You are spot on, the short piston skirts and high compression pressures put high loads on the cylinder walls and skirts. It seems all Hyundai engines do it to some degree although the Theta engines seem to have taken it to the next level, if ignored the knock rapidly develops into scored bores, burning of the oil, seizing, snapped rod and if you are unlucky the remaining oil exits through the hole in the block lands on the exhaust cat and the car burns to the ground.
Even the old 1.6 Lt Alpha engine developed a similar knock but as they were lower compression and much lower horse power they seemed to 'tolerate' the piston slap better, I used to get the same metal out my 1.6 almost every change, it's dense so most of it falls straight to the bottom of the sump although you will find some of it on and around the pump suction screen.
Isn't that good luck if your car with a blown engine catches fire ...ok maybe you don't have fire insurance ...oops!
My old 1.6 had a different problem. It always seemed to burn out coil pack #3 at random times. Though one day I did realize it had a series problem. It wouldn’t turn over one day leading to a burnt out starter. Once that was fixed it would go down the road but would refuse to go over 4000 rpm. It would start sputtering and would refuse to produce power. The final straw was when it ended up mechanically totaled. For the 08 accent I needed a new exhaust system and a new power steering rack. The parts came to 1200 bucks prior to installation and the car was worth 300 bucks. With 128,000 miles on it I just sold it to a salvage yard for 300 bucks and was done with it.
My daughters 2015 elantra just started sounding like a diesel engine a couple of weeks ago. 106,000km. Apparently it's all of them affected. How about a lemon law Canada? ..
Missing catalytic converter
I think I might have this issue in my 2019 Tucson with the GDI variant of the Nu with 21K miles. Sometimes when I start it after it has been sitting for a few days I may hear somewhat of a knock but it seems to go away once warmed up. Is that typical? I use 5W-30 oil and premium fuel. I also experience fuel diluting the engine oil, but it's minor and I keep a close eye on it. Last November I changed the oil and saw no metal shavings.
I took my car in yesterday and It has piston two days after the ten year warranty expired. Waiting to hear if they are going to cover with the extended warranty since it was in Utah for 6.5 years.
Are the 2015 Sonata 2.4L engines impacted by the is flaw? My son has that engine with 102K miles it has some noise but not as much as the others I have heard
My 2011 GLS w 185k miles has the same sound, but it burns no oil. I just put 0/5w30 instead of the 0/5w20 and it’s much quieter and no discernible power loss since I drove it brand new. 0/5w30 is still acceptable oil according to owners manual. I change my oil (Supertech high mileage synthetic 5w30 summer and Mobile 0w30 for winter) every 4000 miles and I don’t see any particles when straining it thru a paper coffee filter. Also cut open the filter I don’t see any sparkly bits either. I use a Fram ultra (99% at 20 microns) rated for 20k miles, but change it every 3rd oil change (12000 miles) since the oil is still clean still after 4000 miles. After starting the car, I let it idle for at least 15 seconds, but in the winter, I wait till RPMs drop to 800 before slowly driving off. Car should last forever with maintenance and TLC. Driving 33% city and 66% highway.
My Hyundai Sonata 2006 started to do the same thing all of a sudden and then the very next day the car wont start. What would you suggest is it worthy to repair it or else selling it to a junkyard?
That's a very low milage vehicle for having a knock.
I have a 2014 hyundai elantra 1.8 engine that I bought my daughter and last week I got in to it and turned the car one andit made a loud ticking sound initially but almost immediately it went always.
After doing lots of research I came to the conclusión. That it was the VVT cam sprockets and timing chain and guides.
So I removed the valve cover to find out that the car was full of gummed up sludge. I mean really really bad sludge.
My first thought was. This car is a gone.
But it did still sounded good after the initial engine start.
So I did more research this time on engine sludge and came up with with a video from WatchJRgo on RUclips. Where he bought a Cámaro with lots of sludge but no where near as much as my Daughters Elantra.
He uses BG engine restoration kit.
I was very escépticas because of how nasty my elantras engine looked. But I said to my self.what could go wrong.
Then I bought the Engine treatment wich was $300+ and flushed the engine.
And I sweater it was a mirarle. The engine sounds brand new.
Then I removed the valve cover to see how good of a job BG did.
And I was completly speechless.
The top of the cylinder head looked almost new.
I posted a video of the before and after the BG treatment. Go check it out.
I know that in your occassion you have metal in the oil wich is a terrible news.
But for those who just have a ticking sound from the VVT system or timing tensioner. This BG engine restoration kit is something that you should look in to. Good luck
Wow mines is 2015 got it at 83k now at 97k and just wanted to know if there’s a recall on this still because when I took it in they told me it needs a whole new engine ?
There is a warranty of 100,000 miles or 10 years so if you're still within that they should cover its plus he'll probably about three thousand additional dollars for all the additional things. There was a class-action lawsuit but that is over as of about 2 years ago
Mine has the same sound. I have a 2012. Started making the sound a couple years ago. Brought it to the dealer considering I had a recall on something else. Hyundai said the knock was nothing. 2 years later and still there. Someone mentioned it sounds like vvt but ive read these are infamous for piston slap. I'm open to suggestions
Same with mine currently. Been doing it for about a year now but has gotten worse. Ill be replacing it very soon but other than the sound its been mechanically solid for almost 20k miles
The issue is called piston slap and these engines are very well known for it.
my 2011 hyundai tucson had this same problem, they were not even going to do anything about it. "Were sorry sir, but if you cant prove you have had regular oil changes we cant help you", and i replied with " Sorry mam but I have all my documents i've saved for everything to counter any reason your corporation might pull on me in order to get out of helping me"
I save everything in regards to receipts and service reports to anything that costed me a lot of $$
Ever since the xbox RROD i don't mess around with these huge businesses. They're going to fix it no matter how hard i have to battle.
and they did. My car is running again.
Good for you!
I bought a 2012 with a super noisy motor. It actually ran ok but once I tore the engine down I found number 1 piston with a hole in the skirt almost and it scored into the cylinder wall. Ruined the whole block
If you're mechanically able take the engine out, have it bored and get new pistons, have it THOROUGHLY cleaned and get new oil pump, rtc. 4 pistons with rings barely 100.00, WHY chance it and buy another bad engine? The more i watch youtube the more i see these same complaints so its not due to bad maintenance its the shorter piston skirts. I saw someone else that had a salvage car and they werent able to get a new engine either
My girlfriend 2013 Hyundai Elantra has 135,000 miles on it and her motor not making any knocking sounds she bought the car with only 25,000 miles on it 5 years ago
My 2nd Sonata engine (Hyundai Replacement) has a damaged piston. I have 3000 miles and three months left on the extended warranty they gave me on the second engine. Hyundai USA is telling me that I'm not covered under the recall because the damage wasn't caused by the connector rod. This is not a recall issue. It is a warranty issue. My original warranty which they extended includes Pistons. I've initiated a claim with Hyundai USA. I am waiting to speak with Hyundai USA directly. They are trying to weasel out of their commitment.
Trade it in and buy a different brand. People trade cars in to avoid the hassle associated with selling a questionable car outright ( though stating AS IS in the add absolves you of any and all future issues)
This bore scoring seem to be a problem in all these aluminum block engines. The manufacturers need to go back to the drawing board and come up with better engineered solutions.
My Elantra 2013 101'000 was having this issue..The dealer where I bought this car and had all work done said I need a new engine. They contacted Hyundai and they are replacing my engine for 85.00 with 1 year warranty.
I just got myself a 2014 Elantra and it has the same noise. What does 85.0 mean here?
Junk car I own one as well. I think your best bet is to let it go a call it lesson learned.
Got mine replaced. Im in korea. 1.6 gdi goes bad starting at 40k km and needs replacement at 100k km. Best sign is to check amount of oil left after 4k km. If less tahn half. . Need new piston and short block..
I have a 2012 Elantra, and all I do is get the oil changed every 2-3 months instead of just a couple times a year, if it last, it last.
My grandmothers 2017 hyundai elantra did the same at 56K miles video posted on my channel but mann thats so terrible.
It’s not rod knock, that would be piston slap
If you haven't tried a factory OE oil filter...give it a shot there is a TSB on that as well...
It was significant bore scoring. Look at my other videos and you'll see the problem. It has nothing to do with the oil or the oil filter. I ended up getting a remanufactured engine from Hyundai and everything's been perfect ever since. I bought a short block and built it up with other components
@@paulwaterloo345 Awesome on the new engine! Congrats!
@@paulwaterloo345 hey paul i’m a bit of novice. i bought my 2011 elantra last year with 60k miles on it. it developed the tick months later; is it common to have a mechanic replace the engine for this? would it break the bank? thanks
@@TheNmd828 If it's still under the 100K /10 year warranty, bring it to a Hyundai dealer ASAP, they will most likely replace it under warranty. Best of luck.
Paul. I have 143K on my 2013 Elantra now. It ticks loudly. I'm going to take it in to see what the dealer says. Up in Canada, they are all getting new engines. If Hyundai won't help me, I'll remove the engine and bore it with new pistons this spring.
@@bpimpin6037 Is there a formal extended warranty? I have 143,000 miles on mine.
@@bpimpin6037 That does not apply in the US (yet)
@@bpimpin6037 any chance you could post that letter with your personal info redacted - would love to use that with Hyundai USA
I'm in Canada and have 40,000km on my Elantra 2013 that just started ticking in cold weather. Even with my maintenance bills. Hyundai refuses to bear any of the cost whatsoever.
@@devmsp5249 Not sure when they consider it bad enough to fix - lots of examples on the web where they are getting engines in canada. Good luck.
Our 2015 Kia Cerato has same engine and guess what same problem.First time and last we bought Kia
have this problem Hyundai is asking for all the paperwork proving oil changes where done at correct time and proper engine maint. if i cant prove all seem like they wont do anything. #garbagecars #keepyopaperwork
I have a car same problem it stared at 96000 so what happen to your car ??
It was two years ago to your now mine how long your car last or what did u do
It would make a great flower pot
Just take it apart and get it to a machine shop and new pistons set engine might last even longer than say so
Mine was exhaust vvt valve failure...
Did it sound like this because my 11 sounds exactly like this but oil has no metal flakes in it
That sounds like my hyundai accent.
You can find on Google or RUclips where a lady who has a 2013 Elantra and she hit over a million miles on it. I'm north of 270,000 miles on my 2012 Elantra and I still maintain a normal oil level and still have the original AC system and it gets used everyday. You either know how to maintain a vehicle or you don't.
It’s been a good car yet you got it at 29,000 miles and put less than 30 for a total of about 60 give or take and the engine went? Lol
The best way to prevent this problem from happening is to use 5w30 synthetic oil, instead of the dog urine 5w20 that the factory recommends.
The best way to prevent this is to never buy a Hyundai (Or Kia etc) ever again.
such bad advise..@@devmsp5249
I use 5w/30 and my car has ticking noise
Same on my 13
Same thing with a 2011 Hyundai Tucson
Mines make louder noise 😑
I have a 2014 with 159k miles doing this
You have bore scoring. Need a new engine or short block. Look at my other videos
Junk.
Cars are junk
Glad I have 225,000 problem free miles on my 2004 Toyota Tundra. Korea has a long way to go to catch up to the quality of the Japanese. Samsung is garbage and most of their cars suck.
no thanks. scratch Hyundai, buy Nissan!
Nissan CVTs give out more than any other transmissions in car. All cars have problems, Hyundais aren't that bad.