Make sure your weight is suitable for landing. The tutorial works if landing with about 1,000 kg of fuel. Also, may be best to keep 7000 rpm until touchdown before going idle to avoid a hard landing if flaring slightly high.
Well executed tutorial! Much appreciated. Although, as a pilot I’d like to question the validity of the statement during the final approach: use pitch to adjust descend rate. From my experience flying piston planes, we adjust descend rate with power, and keep pitch relatively fixed. Pitch adjustment only needed if airspeed is off. Just my personal input.
Yes, that's counterintuitive. I think it's got to do with engine response time and the lack of fancy fly by wire computer to stabilize the plane in landing configuration. It's very easy to mess up your timings and therefore over or undershoot your rpm targets. So yes, light stick input to help you correct potential ballooning or deadly sink rate while rpm adjust. Same works for the Flanker. No such complications with the F15 or F18... or a good old Cessna!
I'm not sure about Mirage F1, but for Super Etendard with ATAR 8K50 (almost the same engine both without afterburner) it was pitch for speed and power for glide slope. Anyway, if you fly near perfect pattern like he did (comgratulation), slight tiny adjust of rate of descent with pitch will work. But if you are way off, you will need to adjust power too. From memory, I think I read that if you hit 15° AoA you need full dry power to recover and you will likely go around.
@@asawyer2872 No, really you can land a jet by managing rate of descent with power (throttle) and speed with AoA (stick). The Navy planes won't have it any other way, propeller or jet engine. But the landing in this video is very good, so whatever works...👍🏻
In principle, yes, and that works beautifully with the F15 and F18. For older planes without FBW, some minor pitch input will help you offset the slow engine response and lower stability.
You are a new module learning machine! I am still trying to find out where all the switches are :) Did you have a reference for your target numbers or was this based on your experience?
My Mirage doesn't behave like this for some strange reason. I'm trimmed on-speed in the green, but maintaining above 7,000rpm makes me way to fast, around 170-200kts. When I reduce throttle the nose pitches up, AoA decreases into the blue range, and I float above glidepath, which is the opposite to the Tomcat, F-5, and any other aicraft where reducing throttle causes higher descent rate.
Very nice landing! Nice to see someone in DCS put some emphasis on that instead of just slamming it in.
Go Navy! 😁
Make sure your weight is suitable for landing. The tutorial works if landing with about 1,000 kg of fuel. Also, may be best to keep 7000 rpm until touchdown before going idle to avoid a hard landing if flaring slightly high.
Very smooth. Nice.
Very clean, that is really hard to do in this jet ! congrats
Good quality and easy to follow tutorial. Thank you sir!
Perfect video. It would be so cool if you could make one using the ILS.
What a nice tutorial ! Very clean :) We now want to see a no-parachute landing.
Well executed tutorial! Much appreciated. Although, as a pilot I’d like to question the validity of the statement during the final approach: use pitch to adjust descend rate. From my experience flying piston planes, we adjust descend rate with power, and keep pitch relatively fixed. Pitch adjustment only needed if airspeed is off. Just my personal input.
Yes, that's counterintuitive. I think it's got to do with engine response time and the lack of fancy fly by wire computer to stabilize the plane in landing configuration. It's very easy to mess up your timings and therefore over or undershoot your rpm targets. So yes, light stick input to help you correct potential ballooning or deadly sink rate while rpm adjust. Same works for the Flanker. No such complications with the F15 or F18... or a good old Cessna!
My understanding is that with jets it's pretty much the opposite of a piston engine aircraft re pitch and power.
I'm not sure about Mirage F1, but for Super Etendard with ATAR 8K50 (almost the same engine both without afterburner) it was pitch for speed and power for glide slope.
Anyway, if you fly near perfect pattern like he did (comgratulation), slight tiny adjust of rate of descent with pitch will work.
But if you are way off, you will need to adjust power too.
From memory, I think I read that if you hit 15° AoA you need full dry power to recover and you will likely go around.
@@asawyer2872 No, really you can land a jet by managing rate of descent with power (throttle) and speed with AoA (stick). The Navy planes won't have it any other way, propeller or jet engine.
But the landing in this video is very good, so whatever works...👍🏻
Fly onspeen AoA. Adjust power for RoD change. Adjust pitch for speed change.
In principle, yes, and that works beautifully with the F15 and F18. For older planes without FBW, some minor pitch input will help you offset the slow engine response and lower stability.
Impressive! Thanks.
Great tutorial, thanks Commander Steinsch. I've subscribed. What's the bet I break the promise I made to myself and buy the Mirage F1?
What nonsensical promise to yourself are you talking about ? 😄
Nicely done.
Nicely done
Really good tutorial, thank you! Is that the Siria map?? Do you remember wich airbase?? Thanks!
Yes, it is Incirlik
You are a new module learning machine! I am still trying to find out where all the switches are :) Did you have a reference for your target numbers or was this based on your experience?
Numbers are taken directly from the official F1CZ pilot manual. Looks like they work well in the sim
I still don't know how to start the thing 😁
@@CommanderSteinsch lol, well its better to look good than to be good ;)
Nice Job.
My Mirage doesn't behave like this for some strange reason. I'm trimmed on-speed in the green, but maintaining above 7,000rpm makes me way to fast, around 170-200kts. When I reduce throttle the nose pitches up, AoA decreases into the blue range, and I float above glidepath, which is the opposite to the Tomcat, F-5, and any other aicraft where reducing throttle causes higher descent rate.
If you share a link to a short track file, I'll take a look
Skill issue.
perfect flight school landing....... mostlikely no time on a cold war server for this :D