What a conincidence, my European friend just got back from an undisclosed location that had Mudhens and we were flying the Mudhen online last night haha.
i love the petty hate of the regimented approach used by navy pilots, glad to see its a much looser expectation for runways, because if im being judged on having exact speed and height ive never made a good landing even once in dcs. i do appreciate these kinds of tutorials, most are all about weapons employment.
Bro my touchdown speed has been like 185 or more. You made this look like butter at what I felt is a crazy angle and speed. Great video and I'll be applying this to my next flight 🦅
You are not alone to all the pilots struggling with his final approach technique. Many real F15E pilots use the speed brake only for the touchdown, so they flare and reduce the throttle, and as soon as they start to float they deploy the speed brake a bit. That way you avoid getting into a stall and slamming it in the ground. That may increase with a longer landing roll but many runways are long enough (10k of fuel and 8000ft will work). Cheers
I definitely appreciate this video! I have too much time in the Hornet in DCS and didn't know that I should be pulling so hard and down into final. I kept thinking I was doing something wrong (and I was) but couldn't figure out what. Glad to see you back man!
Thanks to you and the bros! I'm playing in Northeastern Tatooine and one of your ARC-170 Starfighters splashed one of them pesky Vulture droids before it could hit us.
You're still an active WSO? I thought you were retired lol Thanks for this. Although I have already learned it, it's still nice to have a visual tutorial from someone who knows what they are doing.
Wouldn't it be a bit better to drop the front a bit lighter, while you still have some cushion, or is that standard practice to hold it off and let it drop like that ?
Yep, ideally you want to "fly" the nose back onto the ground gently rather than let it drop in. But its a feel thing in the real jet that you don't really have in DCS. But yes, its best not to let it drop in. The Crew Chiefs will thank you.
@@notso4966 Good point. Now that I have a motion rig, I feel that hard thump when the nose drop! Makes me want to let it down softer, but I need a lot of practice 😅 Motion really adds to the experience, second to VR!
Welcome back, safe and sound from the "Sandbox". I call them all sandboxes, I've been there more times than I can count. Question you say the only time you really use AOA to get on speed for landing, is that the only really time? My DCS squad talks about it alot, for Endurance speeds, Endurance range, optimal speeds, etc. Do you feel it's really important? Even for formation flying.
Oh no, we use AOA for a LOT of other stuff - BFM, endurance, range, etc. I was specifically talking about in the landing pattern. You can refer to AOA around the final turn, but its more "as required" to get to where you need to be. AOA is not really used for formation flying though. If you want to set a reference for the wingman - we often use either an EGT/FTIT or a Fuel Flow for the wingmen to match. Or just a reference Airspeed is fine too. I don't recall ever using AOA for a formation UNLESS we're trying really max range or max endurance.
Thanks Notso, super useful!! I did some practice based on this, and already feel a lot more in control (still lots to learn, hehe). So far: ruclips.net/video/vv2aekQYa38/видео.html
What a conincidence, my European friend just got back from an undisclosed location that had Mudhens and we were flying the Mudhen online last night haha.
I really like your articulation and accent. Clear as day to understand. Thanks for the time to write and record these lessons.
Glad to see you back after your "vacation" and having met you there
Haha, yeah I wish we could have shared some more Beers. Hope you enjoy the Mudhen.
@@notso4966 I did upon release, and I really enjoy riding the TF beast.
i love the petty hate of the regimented approach used by navy pilots, glad to see its a much looser expectation for runways, because if im being judged on having exact speed and height ive never made a good landing even once in dcs.
i do appreciate these kinds of tutorials, most are all about weapons employment.
EXCELLENT video by someone that knows what he's doing. Unlike me. 🙃
Oh yeah, he is back!
Bro my touchdown speed has been like 185 or more. You made this look like butter at what I felt is a crazy angle and speed. Great video and I'll be applying this to my next flight 🦅
Extremely helpful, especially those cue points in the HUD and visual referencing against the runway.
You are not alone to all the pilots struggling with his final approach technique. Many real F15E pilots use the speed brake only for the touchdown, so they flare and reduce the throttle, and as soon as they start to float they deploy the speed brake a bit. That way you avoid getting into a stall and slamming it in the ground. That may increase with a longer landing roll but many runways are long enough (10k of fuel and 8000ft will work). Cheers
The Man…The Myth…The Legend…He’s Back!!!
I definitely appreciate this video! I have too much time in the Hornet in DCS and didn't know that I should be pulling so hard and down into final. I kept thinking I was doing something wrong (and I was) but couldn't figure out what. Glad to see you back man!
Thanks to you and the bros! I'm playing in Northeastern Tatooine and one of your ARC-170 Starfighters splashed one of them pesky Vulture droids before it could hit us.
Great video Notso. Good to have you back!
Welcome back buddy, glad youre safe and BZ on your deployment! looking forward to your vids again
Glad you are back! Great vid as always.
Great to see you back, Notso the source of education :)
Happy to see you back Notso.
Thanks for a great video again! Definitely adds value to the module!
Thank you Notso! its always awesome to learn more from you.
Welcome back! Funny, I was just looking for a guide on this. Thanks
Nice Job! Really enjoyed this!
Welcome back bud ….
That was smooth like butter
Good old times
Welcome back, Notso 🥳
You're still an active WSO? I thought you were retired lol
Thanks for this. Although I have already learned it, it's still nice to have a visual tutorial from someone who knows what they are doing.
Welcome back.
Nice Video M8... Thanks...
Awesome, thank you Notso! Will we get any gear symbology in the future? A bracket or something when it’s down?
Wouldn't it be a bit better to drop the front a bit lighter, while you still have some cushion, or is that standard practice to hold it off and let it drop like that ?
Yep, ideally you want to "fly" the nose back onto the ground gently rather than let it drop in. But its a feel thing in the real jet that you don't really have in DCS. But yes, its best not to let it drop in. The Crew Chiefs will thank you.
@@notso4966 Good point. Now that I have a motion rig, I feel that hard thump when the nose drop! Makes me want to let it down softer, but I need a lot of practice 😅 Motion really adds to the experience, second to VR!
Welcome back, safe and sound from the "Sandbox". I call them all sandboxes, I've been there more times than I can count. Question you say the only time you really use AOA to get on speed for landing, is that the only really time? My DCS squad talks about it alot, for Endurance speeds, Endurance range, optimal speeds, etc. Do you feel it's really important? Even for formation flying.
Oh no, we use AOA for a LOT of other stuff - BFM, endurance, range, etc. I was specifically talking about in the landing pattern. You can refer to AOA around the final turn, but its more "as required" to get to where you need to be.
AOA is not really used for formation flying though. If you want to set a reference for the wingman - we often use either an EGT/FTIT or a Fuel Flow for the wingmen to match. Or just a reference Airspeed is fine too. I don't recall ever using AOA for a formation UNLESS we're trying really max range or max endurance.
@@notso4966 thanks man appreciate the input.
Is that AoA "units" or do you really come in at such high degrees AoA?
Units, not actual degrees. They are arbitrary "Eagle Units".
Notso's in active duty??? What??? I thought you were retired!
Thanks Notso, super useful!! I did some practice based on this, and already feel a lot more in control (still lots to learn, hehe). So far: ruclips.net/video/vv2aekQYa38/видео.html
Notso isn't a real WSO.