Game Theory: Exposing Destiny's LOST PLOT!
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You think you know the story of Destiny, but do you really? Who IS the Traveler? What are you even really fighting for? This episode will shake even the most hardcore Destiny's fans' understanding of the game they're playing. Who's side are you on, anyway?
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+The Game Theorists That was such a bad pun...
I love it.
+The Game Theorists THANK YOU FOR FINALLY DOING THIS ONE! :) :)))))
+The Game Theorists HISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
+The Game Theorists Oh no, he's one of them too.
MatPat I love you and all (much homo) but get out. NOW.
“I only said I spoke for the Traveler... I never said it spoke to me.” - The Speaker (2014-2017)
He was a baby he never deserved to die so quickly
He’s 3 years old
F
I never got attached.
damn, the red legion (cabal) did em guud
@Liam Lavelle Maybe he was supposed to live for 1 year? Who knows.
ah, the good ol, days.
*joins fireteam
"you got gjallarhorn?"
"no.."
*kicked
Same thing but now izanagis burden
@Łyonel Kahee-ros i want that result screen back in d2..
OMNIGAL
@Thatoneguy still can't believe they brought it back
@Thatoneguy Actually Ghally isn't a requirement as it was back then due to it's perk allowing other rocket launchers to have Ghally rounds. What I see more often demanded are Wellocks.
You’re wrong, we don’t just fight mindlessly, we fight for *L O O T*
I have been grinding for months now... Why do I even need this spare reashions god roll? I've lost track of time, I've lost all my emotions, and I've lost my mind. I don't even like playing gambit but I have to keep going even if the darkness takes over me completely.
-litteraly every guardian
Playing nightfall just to get the same exotic every time
Me: am I a joke to you
FOE THE LOOT
We get the loot to keep killing. An endless cycle of killing.
Lol
I think Activision is the real villain...
+Apidooom true
+Apidooom yes. play warframe better than destiny in every way
+Apidooom lol far from it bungie CEO is a scumbag who sold out his company
lol
+Fernando Ferreyra A scumbag working for a scumbag company, should be a nice fit
Watching this after the game awards light fall trailer I’m kinda scared how close he is
We need him to do more destiny theories
@@anomaly3623got some bad news
It’s scary how close he is to being right now that the darkness gave us stasis
according to the nine and the drifter the difference doesnt matter
13:57 it says a group led by Crow. Crow is a character in D2 now, I think mat pat might b right-
@@Phoenix-qu4wg after d1 came out a playtester leaked details of destiny 1 before it was revamped mid development. originally you'd encounter the crow early on and hed lead you to rasputin, in exo form as originally you'd see this exo and it would be revealed that under rasputins core (look up hidden room under rasputin for visual reference) was a machine that would allow rasputin to take a physical form, and the missions would lead you through the story and it would be revealed that not only the speaker was evil but so was the traveller
eramis could have been right
@@ryozo_ "I said I spoke for the traveler, i never said it spoke for me"
That red war campaign line hits different now.
Mat Pat: There isn't enough story.
Me playing Destiny 2 Shadowkeep: Say sike right now.
For a guy who likes deep lore he really doesn’t like destiny’s set up.
ah i see a fellow 2019 steam player
Shadowkeep felt a bit dissappointing.Forsaken already did it
@@Sevastous forsaken was depressing Cayde-6 DIED HES THE BEST CHARACTER
When you here the Darkness is your salvation👀
i now see the traveler as the moon from majora's mask...
+jack moseby *plays dramatic music* *Gasp*
Implying that it wasn't exactly what it was the entire time
This.
+Cameron Perez Its called the *DRAMATIC STING EFFECT*
+jack moseby same here XDDD
And we now know, with Shadowkeep, that the "Ghost Flower" was indeed manipulation. And that the reason the wound never healed, well, it's the Black Garden.
i havent played shadowkeep yet because im broke but does it directly mention the ghost flower or is it something like a side mission you have to go out of the way to find or what
@@fallen5983 It's more of a relation than it out right saying anything. At the end of Shadow keep, #warning# spoils may be ahead,
the darkness tries to persuade you to its side through planting doubt in your mind (in da black garden). I simply see that as a similarity to the ghost flower persuading the other guardian whilst they were in the black garden. Just an assumption. If you want to know what happens in the end, though, I'd recommend playing or watching the final mission. Kinda bonkers.
The same thing is happening with the Season of Arrivals.
@@mee4644 youu
@@temenochi6443 If you're going to light up a year old comment I had, at least use proper grammar. And I don't want to turn this into an argument over how to interpret what it said. It'll change from person to person.
Destiny 2 is out, cayde is dead, and more destiny theories must be made.
As a Christmas surprise, you should do more theories on Destiny.
Cedric Holcomb I hope that happens
He absolutely butchered this story
Eh I'd rather hear about warframe.
Yes
Destiny 2 and we've killed multiple gods, learned the exos are actually of Vex origin, wield the so called Darkness as ice powers, and have now stepped into another war with the Cabal. Did I mention the Darkness wiped out a portion of the solar system again? Time for more theories MatPat
Now more since Levi is back and it seems like the traveler doesn’t like us.
@@jibanyanawesome8577 Oh its even worse now, it tried to leave and was just stuck with nowhere to go
@@matthewholloway8703 After Rasputin had to end himself for us.
@@jibanyanawesome8577 May he rest in pixels
@@matthewholloway8703 We salute that awesome robot
The Guardians don't just kill. They also dance.
and t-bag
hobo joe that's a primary directive given to every guardian to do by the speaker, praise be to yevon.
And they evade annoyingly when they're a Nightstalker. OY.
guardians 'guard' the traveler pun intended
Who is also here when beyond light is out
Destiny will never die😈
I have no time to explain why she had no time to explain!
can’t believe i’m back. it feels so nostalgic
Un-killable, matpat needs to make new theories about destiny 2
@@rancidpotatos8226 if he does it'll be a bungo sponsored one off
Go 5 years into future where you actually CAN wield darkness.
How in the actual heck did he get this close based on like four lore entries? Incredibly impressive
He's so so wrong
@@eranronen573 well yeah ofc he’s wrong he’s making predictions from literal years in the past. Just saying the predictions he made were surprisingly close compared to the info he was given
@Royal-fl2oe not even about the predictions, he got some of the timeline wrong and misinterpreted some of the lore he read
@@eranronen573 👍
I mean, he misinterpreted the Card about the Exos' dream of the Deep Stone Crypt to represent all Guardians
Sounds interesting. It would be cool if the story takes this route, maybe have your character be part of a rebellion and have them fighting against other guardians.
+twittburning I heard there is like 3 more destiny games in the plans, one every year. The best I think would be in the last game (or the one before) to make players choose sides, choose to protect the traveler or attack it, and that would make a whole pvp war
+twittburning Kinda like how the Halo franchise is evolving. Master Chief being hunted down by other Spartans. It is Bungie after all.
+twittburning That's what the Crucible is for. It was made so that way Guardians loyal to the Traveler would know how to fight against deserters.
+Theodore Hodbor I thought it was for training supers to be more powerful like rift was for voidwalkers to have a bigger nova bomb
+Theodore Hodbor I thought it was for training supers to be more powerful like rift was for voidwalkers to have a bigger nova bomb blast
Fun fact: The Warmind (basically a super AI made for war) Rasputin was one of the first beings to discover about the coming darkness so it made plans to cripple the Traveler in case it would leave and so would force it to protect humanity if it didn't want to get killed.
source?
which grimoire card?
Alexander Profit he ran a bunch of simulations and he found out about the travelers departure, after all he gave all exos consciousness and he's basically a quantum computer. also, he gave Siva an order because he thought of the iron lords as enemies who were after SIVA (since they are the travelers chosen and have light. or he could've known Felwinter was a previous warlord and thought he was an enemy.). but as we know he lost control and went into a sleep mode until we woke him up again.
parker maisterra u
parker maisterra wow
I just learned more in 15 minutes than I did playing Destiny all year.
this
+Demon Catursday serious?
same
+Admired Sad but true D:
+Admired Could say that about any game especially Borderlands, Fallout, and the Elder Scrolls.
Matpat: *Destiny Rant*
Me: Wot??
“Checks release date*
“Oh...”
Honestly saem
@@aviaviavian *same*
lol anyone ranting now is just moaning unless they want more lore
Not like he’s wrong, MATPAT hit it square on
Wait... he didn’t talk about the hive and the deep, which is the darkness...
This isn't a theory, it's canon. The grimoire says the Darkness is mainly brought forth by the Hive, so the collapse must have been Crota and his armies invading. The Hive were hunting the Traveller across the galaxy, and the only reason it stayed on Earth during the collapse was because of Rasputin, the warmind beneath the cosmodrome.
Calcified Fragment XIX says the Traveler has uplifted and abandoned races before.
Ghost Fragment: Rasputin 5 says that it was Rasputin the prevented the Traveler's departure this time.
It's been mentioned in the game dialogue that the Vex have been on Mars and Venus long before humans got there, we were the invading army, the occupiers.
Yes, canonically, we're not exactly the good guys.
Ya man ur right its all in there matpat brought it to attention
+Vecheslav Novikov Holy mother of god. I'm glad you posted this.
+Vecheslav Novikov That's kinda cool.
Righti saw and I'm like DEDICATION hah I'd get tired half way through of writing that
+Vecheslav Novikov The fallen are a good example of a race that was left behind from the Traveler, if you look into their lore, they too had a Golden Age and had a deity called "The Great Machine" who they based the design of their servitors off of, and that they had an event called the Great hurricane I think, and the Traveler abandoned them, if you look at I think the Raid scout rifle, it mentions a Fallen warrior asking where the great machine had went, as they were slaughtered. Variks mentions it too. so it shows as a good example of it and the Vex, well, the Vex had always been there, they were there the moment the Venus became anywhere near habitable, and the Cabal had came after the collapse, they invaded the Sol system because it was a good proving ground for the soldiers, since it had an ample amount of Fallen, Vex, Hive, and Humans, so they could fight different warriors.
Who else wishes matpat would make a new destiny 2 theory? Maybe one about stasis?
Between stasis and the new strand abilities I'm basically Begging MatPat for a new D2 theory lol
So technically, the Traveller is the Death Star but with a white coating so no one suspects Darth Vader
+ConnorChameleonShow exactly Destiny 2 - The Return of A New Hope (The Empire awakens) confirmed.
best theory so far on this comments section xxD
Wiktor Wyka
thanks xD but its quite obvious sooo
Connor Calder
yeeeesssss xD
White coating..like in a cake....and the cake is a lie!, omg
“ I speak for the traveler, but I never said it spoke to me.” -The Speaker
Plus, according to Crota’s End it shows that the darkness seeks to destroy literally everything. And the fallen fighting Vex, Cabal, Taken, and Scorn shows that they just want to earn as much are as they can. The traveler was showed to have developed a sense of protectiveness to humans during D2’s campaign stopping Ghaul from destroying the Guardians.
The light is much like a side of a war. Not the overall enemy, so it may have its faults but it developed a protectiveness for all life on its side, including The Spider and his army
He made this 4 years ago he can't tell the future
Then again it could be for more selfish motives. There was a lore entry in D1 from Rasputin’s POV. He detected the Traveler was going to leave the system as the Darkness arrived so he fired every weapon he could to disable it and force it to protect humanity, which it ended up doing because if it didn’t, it would’ve been wiped out too. I feel it partly wanted to protect us to further its motives. Ghaul had absorbed most of the Travelers Light, by destroying him it got it back which it the gave to us, it’s warriors. It is nice to see that the Traveler hasn’t moved since it awoke but could it be staying because it wants to, or because it has to? Only time will tell
Bryson Kuervers it was a plan and we never saw if that happened or not
he needs to update this theory.
The fact this was made before seraph… and by extension Lightfall…
You really need to do something like this for COD zombies. So far there have only been theories pieced together from the little info they give us, but I would LOVE to see what you come up with!
Yeah I would love to see a theory on that especially considering how deep those plots are
+Mike Romo Spoiler...The Nazis are aliens
YESSSS
+Mike Romo You are not thinking right
agreed
Light is evil? What is this, DeathNote?
no its star wars
I was waiting for this comment to appear because I thought the exact same thing.
No, this is sparta
Good...good.
No, this is Patrick.
At 10:25 you lore out of context the deep stone crypt is something only exos feel and only exo people like banshee also dream of the deep stone crypt
matthew vanderwater yes
@@662mann8 commenting, "Yes" adds nothing to the conversation.
I found it funny he mentioned resets, this theory is pretty bad, he is also ignoring that the fallen want the traveler not to destroy it
@@jacobwong7486 yes
Mr Tegs nein.
Watching this video a week after beyond light came out and Guardians can literally wield darkness, went on a murder rampage after their friend was killed and have started talking to the darkness itself is so weird how Matpat was genuinely onto something 5 YEARS AGO... We need more theories from Matpat on destiny
I can agree he was on something, but it has it's flaws such as the Pujari qoute actually being about Deep stone crypt and how exos were made as war machines.
@@lowki5195 oh yeah definitely not 100% accurate, but it was shocking how on the right tracks he was
Guess u could say I see it in a whole new "light"
Yoshi 808 wow
Yoshi 808 hahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Yoshi 808 AHAHAHA that was a real funny...
Yoshi 808 hahahahahahah
nice
The thing about the Traveler making us a proxy army is the most likely. The Fallen have an event called the Whirlwind which was pretty much the Collapse for them, and they also had the Traveler, which they called the Great Machine. Oryx came to the Fallen's home planet and tried to kill them and the Traveler, and when they seemed to be about to lose, the Great Machine fled. That's what led the Fallen and Hive to attack us, as the Traveler came to humanity next, hoping to create an army strong enough to defeat the Darkness.
Boom.
Taken Darkness is different than Darkness that lead to the Collapse. Plus, with Siva added into the mix, the Great Machine could have been many things; after all, they worshiped Sepiks Prime, the big dumb servitor. What if they just had a bigger, little less dumb servitor.
Mr. Stabby The Traveler could be a bigger, less dumb Sepiks Prime.
That is brilliant!! (no sarcasim intended) that is literally the best thing I've heard. I can completely see that.
The card about killing everyone you knew from one reset or another was specifically about Exos and how their memory is wiped periodically, not about guardians in general.
Coming back to this now...I don't know how to feel.
He gets so much wrong, yet almost all of his predictions are right.
Witch queen do be hittin diffrent thou
Lightfall be hitting way different now
Exactly this. This was some out of pocket crackpot theory that became true.
Don't you find it interesting no one has gone inside the traveler, or, at least scanned it?
The Legendary Traveler mask says "I've been inside the traveller you know, Smells faintly of Vanilla"
The Legendary Traveler mask says "I've been inside the traveller you know, Smells faintly of Vanilla"
Yes we have, as a mask...
+Michael Mangraviti they didn't know what it was. They didn't want to take any risks.
If it ain't broke don't fix it
+Michael Mangraviti how can go "in it?"
Can we have a mathematical/physics theory next time, Mat? It's been a while...
+N1ckel exactly! Hope MatPat sees this post and replys to it.
+N1ckel maybe...
+Avinash Singh i hope so
+Avinash Singh Don't worry! I have a few of those in the works :)
+The Game Theorists yay
I think matpat is pretty good but personally just watch 'My Name Is Byf' for destiny lore
After I played forsaken I watched My name is Byf and it made a lot more sense
Both of the previous Lore Masters are good. Byf is my favorite, though.
Same
Yes
Myelin and Byf are the best
"The line between Light and Dark grows ever thin. Do you know which side you're on?"
Uldren Sov from one of the last cutscenes from Forsaken.
Edit: Rewatching this theory, i'm prety sure the ghost fragment "Legend" is about Exo dreams, not specifically guardians.
bruh bruh realistically mat is completely right. I mean... look at the lore from ‘graviton forfeit’
My fav part of the gardeners lore is at the end where the darkness itself says “do not rush to tell me, I will come hear your answer myself” (or around that)
It gives me mad goosebumps
Yeah he said that
"The line between light and dark is so very thin, do you know what side your on?" there fixed it
Nobody:
The ruinous effigy: I’m’ boutta end this mans whole career
These are the games i'd like to see in Game Theory
-Prototype (like can a virus like this exist ?)
-Plague Inc Evolved (like can those viruses can exist ?)
-LEGO Marvel superheroes (like you did with DC)
-Metro 2033 (like can you survive in the subway in a post apocaliptic world / bullets : crap or cash ^^)
-Broforce (like how can the Terminator and Rambo can meet)
Oooh Jak and Daxter is Jak The OG Mar or is he a descendent??
+La Vodka There are some viruses and bacteria that exist IRL that you can play as in Palgue Inc. So it could happen, but it would be "hard" for the bacteria/virus to become something like that. Evolution takes a bit more than a few button presses to happen :)
we can survive because the soviets designed the metro to be like a big bunker that helps people to protect themselves against fallout and radiation
+La Vodka Its a game, Anything can exist
I hope mat see this
How epic would it be for the final expansion to be about how the traveler betrays mankind and the raid is to destroy it
You are telling the Future!
+Arutia Avalon is he?
you do know Bungie and Activision will work on this game for 10 years right?
+Miners Productions yes I know that they said that but that doesn't mean that the final DLC won't be like that
you never know.... it would make sense though, the final raid?
when all they knew of humanity was a steel crowbar coming at them down a dark corridor
HISSSSSSSSSSSS
HISSSS
the crowbar snaps in two
+Ian Baker just kidding
***** at least someone gets it
That epic gamer moment when the traveler wakes up
Hey you your finally awake
I know
Ah.. the red war.. brings me back
That epic gamer moment when the traveler heals itself
That epic gamer moment when the Darkness is actually just a group of black doritos
So Dead Orbit's intentions on leaving Earth is actually a good call since Earth was doomed anyways
Daniel P I meant after the Collapse. Of course they didn't exist then. What I mean is Earth is still doomed, a lost cause knowing the only Light available is the Traveler's dying breath.
If the Traveler is revived do you really think it's going to stay at our side? It left the Fallen without a second thought, how long are we useful until the Traveler is revived and realizes the Cabal could be an upgrade to its army. The Speaker is already hiding things from us. Not to mention The Traveler deliberately caused the collapse which killed innocent children, elderly, and disabled... for what? Just so it can revive the able-bodied to defend it and carry out its mindless duties of killing so that it becomes stronger than ever? No, something that could kill me just to revive me and make me its grunt for the sake of its defense isn't a good thing.
The Traveler is what we're doomed by.
Daniel P We are dead things only meant for killing, doesn't seem like an improvement in our good guy book.
Daniel P Well, I honestly can agree that Earth isn't entirely doomed, they just need to clear out the Fallen and Hive. So they can re-branch out and expand, since there is vegetation, assuming us Dead Beings still eat.
Daniel P I don't think the Cabal would leave us alone after killing Ta' aurc and a large portion of their army. xD
I found a fusion rifle with the description: All that is dark is not Darkness. Strange right?
It's probably referring to Void Light, dark in it's own way, but Light nonetheless
I found good one. Doom of Celchis: "Protect the Great Machine! Protect the great-" Which kinda means Celchis's doom was protecting the Great Machine... DAN DAN DUNNN
Lylybeebee Yes, the Fallen loved the Traveler, and once it left them, they followed it, probably killing anyone that had the Traveler helping them as they think it's theirs.
Ok let's face it the only way to always win is to be MLG Pros and 360 no scope der asses den we always win
I have that fusion rifle like that too
Also, in addition to the traveler having a past of going to planets, destroying them and leaving, somewhere in the grimore it mentions the traveler attempting to leave and then we used a weapon from the golden age to wound it so it stayed with us.
+Griffin Crannell Rasputin shot it, the warsat of earth
+Basil E Yeah Rasputin, but hes a warmind, not a warsat
+Griffin Crannell I remember that. It was in a trailer as well i believe.
+Griffin Crannell yeah in the grimoire for TTK rasputin says that he was the one to shut down the traveler because it attempted to leave
Griffin Crannell true haha... personally why don't we just give up the traveler? i'm already a badass sith lord
5:38, absolutely! There was whole lot of them! In Destiny 2 we call them "Shatterdive Hunters"
The thing is that the Traveler is a completely neutral "Machine"... It just wants to survive the Darkness, that is hunting it. The Traveler fled the Fallen, because the Hive were assaulting them. The Fallen had to leave their solar system and found out, that their Great Machine is now in Sol. The Cabal only want to capture the Traveler and destroy the human race, because for the sake of victory. (Also Gary/Ghaul wanted to use its "Light"). The Hive is a complete other Story: They were told by the Wyrm-Gods (Worm Gods), that they HAVE to snuff out all of the Light and the Traveler is the "biggest source". The Vex are a bit more complicated: They just want to understand the Light, for it is the only thing they can't simulate.....
(I love the Destiny Lore and everything involving this universe... and I hope this clears something up)
by the way: I am not english, so excuse me, if my grammer or vocabulary is not the best.
ThxUnknown that’s really cool
The question is, if the traveler's a machine, who made it?
true
ThxUnknown I think your grammar was good
ThxUnknown the traveler left before the hive invaded and it also left behind a fountain of ether
Seeing that thing floating up there just makes me think of The Moon from Majora's Mask.
I thought I was the only one lol
dam it now I won't be able to unthink that.
damn weebo
+shinoki407 weebo ? a " weeaboo " is for the content of anime m8 :/
+Asriel Dreemurr A weeaboo is anyone not native to Japan, typically Americans in this case, who are so engrossed with Japanese culture that they forsake their current lifestyle. They eat only Japanese-style foods, try to use Japanese in every day conversations(and fail miserably at it), watch nothing but Japanese shows(anime, drama, etc.,), eat all of their meals on the floor, only sleeps on bedrolls, so on and so forth.
So basically they are posers trying to be something they are not.
there should be a change.org petition to make matpat the new ghost
Heck yea!
+. “UDaRealMVP01” no how about a change.org petition for destiny to be remade right ?
lechevalier6661 Hahaha damn we need a better story
Seth Eddings GO MY DRAGONS !! KILL THIS SPAM WITH FIRE !! ( not talking about you -_- )
Yes
I'm appalled that he got this close to breaking down the story of destiny. I wish he still did videos on this game.
So does this theory prove that Dead Orbit is right to say we should leave the Traveler? It all makes sense now....
Maybe but i think FWC holds more truth now, then the rest. "War is a constant, Guardian."
EDIT: No matter what we would be fighting something
I get that, I'm more a Dead Orbit guy because, the Traveler has just caused problems after the collapse.
i know just wanted to say FWC is bae
The Traveler is a liar, after the collapse it gave us Guardians to protect itself. I never trusted the Traveler because, it's just basically using Earth as a proxy army. Guardians are made to be killers to protect a being that has gone from planet to planet, making more of The Darkness. If the Traveler left Earth we'd probably be with The Darkness.
I agree more with future war cult. It's too far to go back now. We need the light. Without we will be wiped out before we know what hit us.
8/10...
Needs more SHELLMET!
Yeah. #PulledAStephanie #CatPat
#GTLive
#BlameJason
+GTLive You didn't watch it all...
6/9 needs more "exposing"
+GTLive My professional opinion.... uh
10 out of 10
Needs more Accelgor
I think the biggest reveal here is that someone actually got an Exotic...
True im lvl 34 never even got legendary
+Jye Guy lol legendary's start to appear everywhere when you reach endgame content, not really a shock that you havent got any at lvl 34, maybe if you did some of the old endgame content i guess
I got an exotic shotgun, it had an attack of 155, I dismantled it because of that. I didn't know better.
+Chandler Steelflex I got it from the chest in the level 26 (I believe) Prison of Elders.
+Chandler Steelflex It was called Junker or something like that.
Bro the final shape is in less the five months. This is scary close. This is what we do know. The darkness is a byproduct of the veil that’s connected to the traveler and now the witness a being of darkness is using his power inside the traveler to rewrite reality. And we still don’t know why the traveler gave us a golden age
The biggest clue is the resputin cards. Resputin was pretty much a backup for humanity if anything went wrong, and resputin found fault with the Traveller. He was linked to all if the weapons of the golden age able to bombard anything that he believes would hurt humanity. Seeing the darkness arriving far before humanity did resputin went looking for ways to save us. The only way he found was AIM EVERYTHING AT THE TRAVELLER stating "you move, you die". The Traveller was forced for it own life to create the ghosts to raise an army to protect humanity for its own good. Moral of the story, don't mess with the Russians.
movableacorn 3 actually it was to shoot at the traveler only if he tried to leave
movableacorn 3 The soviets proved that.
Rasputin lol
Cool beanz
The cards also seem to imply Rasputin didn't get to actually pull the trigger. The Traveler didn't run and Rasputin didn't shoot at it, he was just ready to do so if he needed to.
We need to spread this to all the destiny players #TheTravelerMustBurn
the travaler is miss understanded
All the destiny players have already taken every bit of information for story and pieced it together, so no need to spread
Who cares this is not fnaf
Destiny 2 confirmed
Destiny 2 confirmed
Just more food for thought but if you dig deep enough you learn that rasputin after seeing that the traveler was going to leave the planet decided in a last ditch attempt to Shoot him down.. Yes you read that right! Rasputin forced the traveler to stay by shooting him down thats why theres huge damage at the bottom of the traveler but nowhere else! Also rasputin was shut down during this event in an attempt by the traveler to wipe out all past knowledge on how the collapse was brought about BUT rasputin already realised this was going to happen and set up safety measures. He knew this because when they were researching the vex he saw every possible outcome of the future and in this future he saw the traveler betray earth and its people. So what Rasputin did was implant himself subconsciously into exos that he specifically built in order to live forever and got them to come back and re-animate him after the collapse but which exo you ask? easy its Cayde because in one of the cards it says only 4 eyes have ever been able to gain access to rasputins lair and cayde was human at one time before he was turned into an exo by rasputin and had his memory wiped during the collaps. Basically the 4 eyes belong to him, 2 when he was human and 2 now that he is an exo. Subconsciously cayde re-activated rasputin and basically now rasputin and the traveler are at war.
Basically Rasputin outsmarted the traveler and started a huge death game and he knows the outcome of it all. The traveler realising it got fucked over was forced to create ghosts in a last ditch attempt to gain an army before the other races it fucked over tracked its whereabouts down and tried to seek revenge.
Also just an interesting thing to go take a look at is when you go to the tower quickly go look at the traveler, you will notice that its actually healing! some spots that looked battle damaged are actually gone now and its getting more vibrant and less dirty looking.
noice
Exactly. I wonder if matpat read the grimoir AT ALL.
Well damn son, you did some good thinking. Cayde tho
Well damn son, you did some good thinking. Cayde tho
+MonstaProductions just throwing this out there if thats the case then why would you be defending Rasputin if guardians were made to fight for the traveler then wouldnt the traveler have its ghosts and its speaker label rasputin as a "Threat" and force the guardians to wipe him out?
So many of the comments are "You're wrong because of (insert story here)"
This video is over 4 years old. Most of you are taking about stuff that came after this video was made. Chill.
No need to take it so seriously. He did call it a crackpot theory, after all.
But HEY! That's just a theory ... a GAME THEORY!
@@texasbeaver8188 *why!?!?!??*
@@rimworld64 what
@@mamadied5722 *enboldened speaking*
I mean. It is wrong. So.
Anyone else feel that the enemies in destiny represent the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse?
War - The Cabal
Famine - The Fallen
Pestilence - The Vex
Death - The Hive
Even the gun 4th Horsemen!
+Tytus Wellington the darksiders 4 horseman are not exact to the true 4 horseman. teh darksiders horsemen are war, death, fury, and strife. Traditionally the 4 horsemen are war, death, famine and pestilence however since they are biblical reference its very interpretable, due to the only one actually being named and described is death so when I say exact the better term is traditional, with the first three being the main ways to die at the time of their inception (war, famine(starvation), or pestilence(plague/disease)) and the final one being death incarnate(and hence the strongest of the four).
That makes a lot of sense, and if they did purposefully add that someone at Bungie actually has a good idea for once 😝
yea
+Aizen Sama Conquest is sometimes interpreted at Pestilence instead, and it makes more sense like that often considering the order in which the riders appear.
@ 10:25 you quote a grimoir card, but you take it out of context. The quote is from an Exo's point of view, talking about a dream that all exos have eventually, and consistently as far as I know. It is dealing with the Deep Stone Crypt. All exos were built as war machines, but the Traveler didn't build the exos, mankind did. A company called Clovis Bray actually built the exos. You can do your own research to find out why/how, but like I said, the quote is taken way out of context. Just saying. Also, you should do an updated theory of this game, either before or after the Forsaken expansion is released. Good video bud.
I was going to tell him, by the way do you think the exos were created and their mind developped or were humans minds transfered to exo's body ?
JO995 To the best of my knowledge, the human consciousness was transplanted into the body of an exo. When doing Cayde-6's treasure maps in Destiny 2, sometimes you'll get a journal fragment of Cayde telling his son Ace that the next time he sees him, he will be a robot, or something to that effect. So I'm pretty sure that the Exos are all pre-made at Clovis Bray and they are awaiting human consciousness. Also, on Mars, you can activate consoles that give much more information about the whole thing, I just don't remember them word for word and I really don't feel like logging in to find out.
Rob Mills they aren't war machines they are a way for humans to live forever but besides that u are good
Lone wolf This quote was taken literally from the very first line of the Exo page on Destinypedia.com - "The Exo are a race of humanoid war machines built long ago for an unknown purpose and fashioned in humanity's image." I originally heard it from the RUclipsr My Name Is Byf.
Weren't the exos built by Rasputin?
Unlike many, I enjoyed my original Destiny experience, and I certainly believe that the whole universe is being taken in a really cool direction.
Point being, I'm rather glad that you've brought such a cool thing to light about the whole story. Destiny has a story, but unlike the story of FPS, it's more intricate and hidden than partakers of the FPS genre are used to, hence all the backlash. What's super cool is that I fully believe the Traveler is evil, specifically because it has the power to reanimate the dead for the express purpose of killing, and only chooses to speak through a largely faceless Speaker who we assume has no ulterior motives. We assume this as Guardians simply because we don't know any better. We were dead. We are literally the Traveler's puppets. There is no other history for us.
Especially tying in the fact that the Fallen, as their name suggests, were the previous avatars of the Traveler, and are now relegated to second-string now that the Traveler fled the Darkness once the Fallen had gone beyond their use. Not to mention that the Vex are largely incomprehensible to us all and therefore completely out of our wheelhouse when it comes to dealing with them. Like, we're just muscle men who probably should be named Guido. Something seems a bit wrong, doesn't it?
+The Gαme Theorists . Them 0 subscribers tho!
but this is just lazy development on Bungie's part, no?
see none of that's true, the story was simply never developed due to the disaster that was this games development.
+Cheesy Bread Lazy how?
+Slipknotic3 None of that's true, except for all the parts that are in game or in the grimoire, which is all of it.
I would love for him to do a destiny lore at the current point of d2. Some of this has already been confirmed, like the fallen having the light at some point. Also there’s a lot of other lore points that would affect his theories.
Him doing a theory on Destiny now would give him so much of a headache with all the lore he would have to dig through. He would have to have someone who knows the lore like Byf to help him.
Actually, that would be a very entertaining video for them to do.
@@Joker-77763 agreed, him and Byf should team up for it.
"Lost plot"? So ALL of the plot?
*_airhorn noises_* SHOTS FIRED
it's funny bc it's true
truth
+Fade Senpai ^
Ohhhhh
Warlocks will be the first to return to the darkness their quest for knowledge will lead them to the truth
Yup than the Titan are gonna have the warlocks and the darkness
Mmyep, that's why I main a warlock.
Kman Rocks I think the Warlocks own pretty much everyone they taught the hunters how to blink connected with the void before the titans did and they are the first choice for missions if you watch the taken king cutscenes even the awoken queen used only 3 warlocks to conjure a devastating attack against Oryx
+Celestial Sins (Healer4Life) yeah those were techeuns not warlocks, a little different in the awoken culture
(reads comment and then goes back to mindlessly killing and throwing arrows everywhere and using no time to explain)
Make one on Destiny 2
Maybe this is why the bad guy from Destiny 2 wants The Traveler.
It's a machine that makes you Imortal, perfect for a war like race like the Cabal.
And since it's a machine, who is there to say that it can't be reprogramed?
also his point with darkness think of void the bridge of light and dark now makes sense
YESSSS
cant wait for pc version to come out on the Blizz app
Ted Smith one quick correction, Ghaul was the runt of his family, not a deformed albino... I just got the game a few days ago and played through the mission where he tells you this, so it's still fresh for me
Ted Smith well, I'll be... I don't have that auto rifle, so that would be why I don't know that tidbit.... although being a runt is not a disfigurement, it's just a sign of weakness in warrior societies... so I'd guess the respirator looking thing he has to wear on his face is probably in relation to the disfigurement... or maybe even disfigured is just a descriptor of the albinism itself... but disfigurements are permanent and being a runt is not (I was technically the runt of my family and doctors said I was never supposed to even reach 5'... I am now 5'9" and am among the tallest in my family)
*nearly 7 years later after seeing the traveler try to piece out on us for Savathun*
Me: huh, this guy was on to something.
I hope he'll do another theory with the Taken King or Rise of Iron
same
Rise of Iron ?
+Jesse Kozlovsky new DLC comin September where we fight a fallen mutant army and a war mind I suppose and we help Lord Saladin ( Lord Salad 🍲) and occasionally becoming an Iron Lord!
oh thx
The taken king ought to be a good one
Even in Destiny 2 I hear Fallen saying, “The Darkness!”. I myself think that they call the guardians the darkness, because will they think what they are doing, is the right thing to do, that’s how I always thought of it.
Nah, it's because the fallen had the traveler before. The darkness is what knocked the traveler out of the fallen's grasp.
Yeah, they are referring to taken, darkness, etc.
they are just jealousy of guardians for having the light and the traveler protecting earth. Even variks is staring to be jealous of us, but he loves tech and humans have interesting tech. It’s a very love-hate (mostly hate) story. The fallen are anti-heroes so to speak.
To me, it sounds like they saying 'THE DARKNESS rises...'
Zero Todona wtf you would do. Their home planet got destroyed. And great machine how they name it, left them to die. And thing that they need to live was only found on their home planet. And when ether(food that keeps them alive) was about to end, wars happened. They lost they culture, UNDERSTANDING of technology, They found way to create ether using machines, but they needed other technology to create it cause they don't have any clue how to create it themself.
Me: *Finishes quest*
My Ghost: "Congratulations! You-"
Me: "Yeah, yeah, yeah, just give me that juicy exotic helmet!"
Nah you get a blue arm piece
Gets gray ghost
Reminds me of the shadow keep campaign after the last cutscene
nah.
GIVE ME STOMPIES!!!
Let me guess #gungang
I know no one is probably gonna see but when he said that “we killed everyone” he was talking about exos they had to do this. Also exos are made by humans not the traveler
Clovis used the Darkness to make exos
Obviously the traveler is a bad guy....only because thats no moon... #starwarsreference
What if one of the moon's in our solar system isn't a moon?
Darksquid 33 Technically there is sort of, the planetoid formally known as Pluto was believed to have a moon, a moon that was A) larger than Pluto itself, and B) later found to orbit the Sun, not Pluto. So, yeah it's kind of a moon that's not a moon
nice refrence dude
Wait, wouldn’t that be referencing DBZ when Vegeta saw the spirit bomb?
…but neither is it a space station! Its just a magical floaty ball of magic! Which gathers… actually it doesn't never mind
With this theory, I can now sleep like a baby knowing I'm doing the right thing by not playing Destiny.
I like the game but this still made me laugh lol
I like u fam I hate this game
ur an scrub
+the darkness shut up and go grind for 240 hours and waste your life
+the darkness shut up and go grind for 240 hours and waste your life
I didn't know Destiny even had a plot...
+kwadwo baidoo *Drops Mic*
+kwadwo baidoo WOAAAAAH!
+kwadwo baidoo How would you know? You don't remember how you even got there. All you know to do is fight. You don't know to look for a plot.
+Dylan Holder upvote this comment, i wanna see game theory do it :D
+kwadwo baidoo Of course it has a plot. Almost every game does: You goodie. They baddie. Kill plz. ty. Best plot evar. Let's keep repeating this since nobody seems to realize what we're doing. Just in this case it mgiht be...BACKWARDS Dun dun dun!
It still baffles me how mat pat doesn't do more theory's on destiny, its a game theory GOLD MINE of lore
We killed a god because the game requires it and that’s probably how you get that sweet SWEET loot
Dogeinator 123 as papa console taught sweet preceious leut!
Kills God - gets rare
that's using game logic. game logic doesn't pass here. sorry.
Papa console taught you well
Well, it's not truth 100%. You kill that "god" to let traveler heal himself.
But the Traveler smells of vanilla, surely it can't be evil!
Laughed so hard at the Light Trump
Russia instead of China
+caleb thomas so funny XD
+caleb thomas Obama would have been a better fit. We still know nothing about the man and the golden age of the US has come to its end during his presidency.
Free Game Reviews Not disagreesing, since everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but Light Trump is a funny idea, almost as good as Tronald Dump
This aged well, with all we know now. If you think about it, the witness fits every description at 7:19 too. Shows how much care bungo put into destiny :>
Firing your writing leads only to use their ideas years later doesnt seem to me like a lot of care.
there is a theory that the black garden is inside of the traveler which you can make a comparison by looking at the edge of the garden. it looking like it is inside a white sphere the size of a planet.
Black garden is on the surface of Mars after you destroy the black heart.
+cookiemon27 in order to get to the Black Garden, you need to travel through a pocket in time and space, and are transported there. the theory doesnt sound that compelling, based on the one fact backing it up is the color of the sky, but it very well could be true
+who cares dosent The travler wake up after u finish story mode/black garden mission. so Maybe he was corrupt since The GOD inside him took over
he isn't awake, he is only closer to being revived. you probably haven't even played destiny if you don't know that
Remi Aanonsen the traveler isnt sleeping its dead.
Ha! I made my character an Exo, so technically I AM a killing machine! Eat That, MatPat!
Derpo Kaiba, the President of Derpo Corp. me too... me too
no matter what race you choose your character can always feel feelings as demonstrated throughout the game and as we all know robots have no feelings and their goal is to do what they've be told to do so if you character has feelings it can't be a machine eco is a race of living breathing people in this game
Derpo Kaiba, the President of Derpo Corp. me too
Derpo Kaiba, the President of Derpo Corp. I made my character an exo to
Overkill ALL THE WAY!!!
Rip Cade-6
2014-2018
I hope we are in the forst on mercury all the time and this didnt happen 🤔
Yeah I know infact matpat plz take care of Ace
It’s Cayde
@@karen-gf3nk It's Cayde-6
SCP -049 Im the cure, my son got two stuffed red pandas he didn’t know what to name them. Two minutes later it’s Cayde and Ace.
Me about to head into beyond light: “He’s wrong, again, now you owe me $5”
Here's a cool little theory too, So, The Traveller is referred to as The Great Machine ,right? But a machine has to be built by someone in the first place, the question is WHO built The Traveller!?
Me
Maybe the Nine? We're never told their objective or background, and they are shown to have technologies much more advanced than ours. (Exotics & Glass Needles)
The forerunners
Rob Schneider..
+Deniz Popov It could have formed in a long series of coincidences that managed to form a working machine capable of great things... or magic... everyone will say magic...
Halo 5 is all about Master Chief rebelling to defeat THE TRAVELER!!!!!
Scotty! What are you doing here! Great vids man!
The guardians are a biproduct of the traveler!
Yes, the master chief has returned to kick the traveler in the face and show who is the real boss.
+HeadHusky but the guardians fight along side master chief after they defeat there instincts of killing first and see the error of their ways.
JonesJimBobskie _________ Master chief already did that.
Maybe you're referring to Locke, who just has a target, that is all he knows and all he cares about. Never asked anything else, doesn't know anything else. Has one mission and plans to fulfill it, despite the ones who ordered it.
Never gonna look at the traveler the same
lol only reason it's still there cause of the warmind..
+Zayne Kauffeld thx rasputin!
+Zayne Kauffeld
Yeah I kind of wondered why it wasn't mentioned in the video.
One of the grimoire cards gives the impression that Rasputin had a last resort plant to cripple the Traveler should it attempt to flee during the collapse.
As you can see, all the visible damage is on the Travelers bottom side. As if it was attacked from the surface and not from space. The last city is supposedly not that far away form the cosmodrome. Could even say that just a missile shot away?
"If available ISR and WARWATCH indicates imminent [O] departure
>then [O] departure compromises human/neohuman survival and epoch strategy
Stand by for ABHORRENT IMPERATIVE:
Activate LOKI CROWN
Perform deniable authorization: full caedometric and noetic release
Prevent [O] departure by any means available
Stand by for effect assessment criteria:
Coerce pseudoaltruistic [O] defensive action.
Defer civilization kill.
"
- Ghost Fragment: Rasputin 5
Me either!
Stalking Lykos
www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/38nbqq/the_last_city_is_pokhara_nepal/
The Last City is in Nepal. Of course there is always room for fans to argue and for Bungie to retcon, but that appears to be the most likely place.
10:23 was actually about exos, not the guardians. Clovis (creator of exos, the sentient playable robots) wasn't a huge fan of human rights.
I got an artefact that said something along the lines of "We should never have trusted the machine-god. It has brought upon us the darkness and collapse."
What's it called?
Stay Worried
Hunter's triangle, something like that. It is one of the ones Cayde-6 gives you upon reaching level 40.
Ah. Thanks.
That's from the fallen. The traveler went to them sometime before us and the darkness came in and destroyed their society while the traveler fled. That's why they're scavengers right now and that was also when chelchis was the leader of the fallen (remember the item description "elikisny songs tell of chelchis, kell of stone, who stood against the maw. Fallen used to be called elikisny before they fell and their current state is a shell of their former power.
Theres lots of Fallen lore that supports this, the Servitors the round robot ball enemies are mentioned as being holy relics constructed in the image of their god.
"I think it requires a living host"-ghost.
when you step in the taken membrane, nothing happens but a weird screen affect.
At the launch of the taken king bungie seemed to hide so many little details like that
Remember that guardians wield light, the fallen and cabal don't, and the hive....well they just give in.
Remember that guardians wield light, the fallen and cabal don't, and the hive....well they just give in.
+Josh brown that makes sense but then again claiming that not being eligible for Taken-ness proves we're evil....is kind of fucked up
i mean the fallen and cabal might fear us as destroyers and murderers but they also seen to be scared shitless of being taken and the way that being taken is described....lets just say it isn't the nicest thing that can happen to you
The Speaker
no it simply implies that the guardian is not completely living. sure, it could be just light bullshit.
With the lore that’s been released since this episode aired, I think we might be able to take this theory one step further. The Light and Dark might actually use the same energies, but for different purposes. Eris, in one of her cards, describes finding an Throne World made for the Light. Not made *of* the Light, but *for* the Light. Why would that exist? The Throne Worlds are created by the Hive’s magic, fueled by Dark energies, so how and/or why would the Light have one?
To push from the Hive’s magic tangling with the Light, I’d like to propose my own theory. I think that the Guardians and the Hive both follow the Sword Logic, and we just don’t know it. Let’s take a look at how the Sword Logic works. Killing under the Sword Logic establishes your dominance over whatever you killed, and proves its unworthiness to exist in the “final universe”. The Hive also grow more powerful from killing, since killing feeds their worm symbiotes within them. The Guardians use this in almost the exact same way. We kill relentlessly, establishing our place in the universe over them, and we grow in power from killing them. How? Well, it’s no wonder the most powerful loot comes from killing the most powerful enemies. Atheon, Crota, Skolas, Oryx, Aksis, Calus (as a robot but whatever), Argos, Val Ca’Our, Riven, and Insurrection Prime all count as very, very powerful, since they’ve all killed many things for themselves. Strike bosses give strong loot as well, but not as strong, since they haven’t killed as much as their raid boss counterparts. When we kill them and equip that loot, it’s no wonder our “Light” level increases. Our Light is fueled by the same powers as the Dark, just used for a different purpose.
So what do you all think? Is it a nonsense theory, or could this play into Destiny 3’s plot with Darkness abilities (at least, the one we think is going to exist)?
I have been thinking the same way about the sword logic and how we use it to grow more powerful . It also bothers me how we are tasked with killing these enemies and are given more powerful weapons afterwards....not before. If the job is important and we must win to survive as a species then why not give us the best gear to use before hand.
I think that bungie will most likely keep up with adding new content to D2 for now, but if D3 will be a thing, I think that it could happen. Really nice theory, a destiny theory (lol) btw.
We actually use bomb logic completely different and we already know both light and darkness are paracasual entities tied to both the sword logic and bomb logic
"The line between Light and Dark is so very thin"
"Lets cross it together"
The origin of the traveler begins with the hive. They were light powered creatures until these "worm" or "maggot" gods consumed their light and plagued them with darkness. They had a great civilization powered by the travelers light until the darkness took over and their civilization collapsed. He then bailed on them and ran like a bitch to escape the darkness.
For context sake this is how the races work:
The Fallen follow "Prime Servitors" those ball things that you see flosting around (you kill one in the first strike). They feed them eather seeds and basically they just boss evryone around and pilot ships. The races are obsessed with the number of arms they have. Dregs are low tier with 2 arms. Theyre dumb and hostile. The vandals are also low tier with 2 to 4 arms. Slightly less dumb. Then there are captains and priests. Each having four arms and command the grunts based on the servitors orders. Variks is an Ex-House Fallen. A fallen house follows a specific servitor and Variks has abandoned his house to join the traveler (essentially the largest servitor in the universe because thats all they are). The Great Machine HE reffers to is likely a servitor. First, the servitors are built and separate the fallen into the seperate houses (devil, wolf, kings, winters, etc.) their history and memories wiped away by the servitors, fight for system. That last part is obvious. Go to he reef. What house was there? The wolves. Go to earth. What house resides there? The house of kings and devils, but they are both on seperate sides of the cosmodrome. Almost like they were opposing each other. We keep our bases here you keep your bases ther and the middle area is a no mans land. We see you, we kill you.Venus is mainly comprised of the house of winters if my memory sefves me correct. Thing is, Skolas is a bad guy. He may reffer to the traveles as a great machine because that is what it translates to from their natural tongue. It literally translates as the great machine. Variks speaks half broken english and still calls the traveler by its name. The great machine he is talking about is a generalization of all lf the houses servitors.
The Hive are ex-light warriors. They oppose you because the infection from the maggot and worm gods causes them to be drained of light. When they see a powerful source of light like a guardian they kill it so they can try and be ome it again. They are zombies. Just like how zombies eat flesh to become human again, Hive devour light to become Guardians again.
The vex are war machines. They worship the darkness. It is their god. All with the exception of one Vex Champion, and his army of followers. Atheon is, as you can see from the name, a athiest. He doesn't worship the darkness because he is against it. I think it says on his grimoire card that he rejects the darkness as a diety and thus why he stays sheltered in the vault of glass, so he can avoid the hive mind of the brainwashed vex that worship the darkness. So, he is on your side, right? WRONG. The second you launch vault of glass he is trying to straight up murder you and yo crew. If the darkness is good and the traveler is evil and he opposes the good, naturally he would be evil and start walking around with a dink. . . Er, I mean, Nolan bot. Right? The enemy of my enemy is my friend? No? Alright.
The cabal are war loving beasts hell bent on turning the traveler into a weapon. Or, at least thats what ive gathered from them. Not much is known about the cabal. All we do know is that they want the traveler and followed the darkness towards it.
Maybe my counter arguement is not as solid as your theory, but I got one more trick up my sleeve: Allow me to introduce to you, Dredgen Yor. The inventor ofthe exotic hand cannon, the Thorn. And yes. I'm going there. See, his whole deal was a rose. A rose he held while his light was strong, and as he became corrupted by the darkness, the rose pedals became nothing but thorns. See, Pujari is in a place of flowers and peace. When he reaches down to pick a flower, he is cut by the thorns. He bleeds light. This is obvious to me that the thorn that cut him was from Dredgen. See, as he became more corrupt, he seeked the hive for inspiration. He consumed light. He is stealing Pujari's light. He is feeding himself with a dead guardians power. The vision was entirely due to Dredgen feasting on him. He woke up with a wound in his hand, caused by Dredgen drinking his light.
See? Guardians aren't evil. But that's just a theory. Now don't bother me. I'm gonna go farm for legends.
this convinced me more that the traveler is the bad guy :) but there is one thing i dont know WTF IS THE TRAVELER a planet or a giant floatin robot or wtf
+hioeo ..... damn
+B icer its a machine, you can see that its worn and torn and has metal inside
+Everett Guenther yes but is it like the deathstar so people live on it or just a giant ai telling people what to do?
+B icer its a sentient machine, like the Servitors.
Wait Gary wants to save us?
12 Art yes
12 Art anyone found it odd that in the beta you went to look fpr the speaker and could not find him?
Haha lol
Maybe because we were a revived dead guy?
Tell me you wouldn't kick a space zombie too that was in your way from saving the universe.
12 Art No it's the equivalent of that guy you hate having ice cream and you punch him in the face and throw him off a bridge then steal the ice cream even though it was his ice cream, no one is really in the right here xD
The ghost should have been voiced by Morgan Freeman.
Yes, #GAMERSOFTHEBEYONDFORPRESIDENT
+gamers of the beyond amen
Tupac
+Claybae "I have had it with these mother f**king Vex Minotaurs on this mother f**king planet!"
+gamers of the beyond That would of been awesome X,D
Anyone else watching this during the final shape
Actually yes I am lol
honestly The Traveler kinda reminds me of the American government
Go trump.
Hayden Wolfe totally
So true
HUE HUE HUE HUE
lol
I Fight Just Because It's Fun
Not For That Big Ball Of Light
+Yousef Gamer So...you're a sociopath?
+Dan Menard
Yeah But
Not In Real Life
LOL
"I don't fight for evil! And I don't fight for good either! I fight just to fight!"
Asura's father
+Yousef Gamer why do you think it brought you back from the dead?
a mindless drone who only wants to shoot. the perfect soldier
Corey Kimbrough You mean Asura's master. Augus wasnt his father.
COME ON PEOPLE!!! #GhostPat !
just a side note, destiny makes it way to easy to get the ultra rare drops
You didn't play vanilla, did you?
+The_Hoagie no I did Xbox 360 vanilla
then i guess you never actually got "ultra rare" drops, because in vanilla it wasnt easy to get the RARE drops.
+ChillBroIt'sJustAPrankBro NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRDDDD!!!!!! #thesimpsonsreference.
+ChillBroIt'sJustAPrankBro.
You should do a new Destiny video now that the story has progressed significantly. Maybe give a theory about Witch Queen, Lightfall, and The Final Shape?
The black garden is the dark dimension? So their God is Dormmamu?
Johnny Wolfpup, Bungie, The Game Theorists, ShoddyCast, and the rest of the internet,
"A place beyond time", yep, that pretty much sums it up, except it doesn't. There isn't an all-consuming being with a hunger for everythi- HOLY SH1T THE VEX IS... WHAT? MARVEL?!?! EXPLAIN NOW! I WANT ANSWERS! WARLOCKS USE THE SAME POWER SOURCE AS SORCERERS DON'T THEY BUNGIE! HOLY SH1T HOLY SH1T HOLY SH1T! WE ARE GENIUSES! *muttering* Wait... the Vex can't be him, it doesn't line up but The Tra- THE TRAVELER IS DORM- MARVEL?!?!? MARVEL EXPLAIN THIS RIGHT NOW! PLEASE?! I MUST KNOW THE TRUTH AND I ASSURE YOU I CAN HANDLE IT! TELL ME NOW!
Yes, yes, I know they aren't in the same universe (probably), but the parallels are there... which would explain why it was changed in the first place, when Bungie found out that Dr. Strange was a thing, but I want the 'The Traveler is evil' twist so badly! Oh so badly! Please Bungie throw the Guardians for a loop and make us question our morality, MAKE US RISE UP, AND LET FREEDOM RING! RAISE OUR VOICES AND BE SILENT NO MO- wrong universe, sorry. Although shredding through hive as a werewolf would be pretty awesome, I don't think lycanthropy is carried over during the resurrection process... or is it? (Bump bum BUUUUH)
Somebody at Bungie please make a Halloween free dlc were you get a Werewolf permanent Hunter Sub-Class (because the Hunter would be best suited for it, or just make it a sub-class for everyone, because I want a WereWarlock, yes please), maybe even some more The Next Phase stuff like a Cascadia Standard Assault Rifle (CSAR, commonly known as the Caesar), please? I know that a VIDAR suit would be impossible considering the game mechanics just aren't there, but at least let me 'Wolverine' my Mida Multi-Tool. (I know I'm getting off topic but I'm on a roll here so bear with me... oh I was rambling from the start? Well let keep on rambling shall we?) OH! I know what would make a great weapon for a Next Phase dlc: The Cascadia Heavy Enhanced Weapon, in all of its 7.62x59mm, belt-or-drum fed, super-cooled, SilvAlt (silver alternate)-Spewing, Werewolf-Slayin' GLORY! *deep breath* WOW I love that universe (more specifically its 'Dark Turn' timeline, as I so aptly named it)! Bungie (or any game developer worth their salt) please make The Next Phase into a game at least, please? If a Destiny dlc is too much then a whole separate game would be enough... I want, just, I WANT! If I need to start speaking in memes to get my point across so be it! GAME DEVS Y U NO MAKE NEXT PHASE GAME? There, now do you hear me? Please adapt Wandering Goose's 'The Next Phase' to the gaming industry, with Goose handling the story and you putting it down on pixels and code. Think of the cutscene potential! During "The Witness On The Hill" when the reader first sees a VIDAR suit, with it kicking the door off a van after shredding it with its CHEW, ripping through rebels, and scaring the ever-loving crap out of Vanko and the rest of the main characters. In "The Great Train Robbery", well just everything about that would be visually stunning, granted you could pull it off. Maybe even a Killhouse (Cascadia Proving Grounds) raid by Blackfield? That would just be awesome, a Wolf/Raven combo plus two other ground teams plus Talon support (I know 'Talon' is a designation, but I mean Attack helicopters) to blow the roof in, GOD that would be a great level to play! "'The Next Phase: The Game', think of it as COD: MW with werewolves and the whole world going to SH1T because of Cascadia Arms Corporation.", yeah, I like the sound of that... NOW SOMEBODY MAKE IT HAPPEN PLEASE!!!
P.s. I just realized I rambled about werewolves in a reply to someone with the last name of "Wolfpup"... coincidence? I THINK NOT!
Bungie, it's set in stone! You have to make it happen, or someone will beat you to it and make a sh1tload of money without you! Go make it happen!
Johnny Wolfpup yay. Marvel references.
But that's just a theory, A Dr. Strange/Destiny theory
nuclear warhead THANKS FOR BARGAINING
Johnny Wolfpup No, that's somewhere else.
The fallen are victims of the darkness, not agents
This is why I love destiny just finding out stuff like that is so fun
+Abdullah Alvi And there is some proof that the traveller tried to leave earth but rasputin damaged it enough to not let it escape
+Abdullah Alvi the lore is better than the game will ever be, so I enjoy the lore.
+Spookjager Rasputin also forced the creation of the ghosts so if anyone is evil in this situation it's Rasputin
Sean b He did so the traveller didn't abandon earth like how the traveller abandoned the Eliksni/Fallen
This is the exact video my friends needed. Me, my friends, and probably a lot of other people have all been extremely suspicious of the Speaker and the Traveler. I mean just from what we heard in the intro we were suspicious. The "Light" came in the form known as the Traveler and soon "Darkness" came. So instead of the Traveler leaving and *traveling* somewhere else, it stayed and let the humans fight off everything that came at it.
Interesting enough, Pujari's story kinda happens to you when you reach a certain point in Shadowkeep.
Thats why I rewatched this video, I think MatPat might've gotten it right.