Thanks for being willing to still use the live bird. People love to pretend they don't know where meat comes from. Sometimes not everything is pretty. Hunting for your own meat is pretty damn ethical in the grand scheme.
Hunting for meat is very ethical. This particular training exercise does not appear necessary or ethical. Not all dogs are as good as mine but I didn’t need to torture any birds to teach her to hunt
Thank you. Perfect timing. I have a 9 mo female that I have yet to introduce to gun fire, mainly due to lack of birds since it is breeding season for all of the hatcheries. this video will come in handy when I do the first intro and follow up sessions.
Loving the videos, probably have watched 2-3 a night since I’ve found the page! We are picking up our first GSP at the end of the month, time to learn how to train a bird dog
Thanks ! Great video and tips once again I will try it shortly. Even if our girl was introduced to gun already a few times I will give this a try from 30-40yds with real ammo
We took our pup to the local gun range a few times and walked towards the trap lines. No indication of nervousness. Next are the pigeons and shooting conditioning you just showed in this video. Tonight will be our first pigeons! It's so awesome Shock is the same age as my pup. AND just to be more like a stalker, we went to SD this weekend to check out our fields for pheasant hunting so we're on the same schedule as Shock is in more ways than one. Great videos!
Don’t go to the trap range. There is no context for the noise.. I am glad this worked for you but could have gone the opposite. If you see apprehension.. all that you have done is created a problem. Reach out if you have questions!
@@StandingStoneKennels - I haven't been to the gun range again since you responded to my post. Thank you for responding. I have since taken my dog out and retrieved around timed gun fire like your video showed. He did great! glad I didn't mess him up with my trip to the gun range. I look forward to more video's with Shock! IS there a dog named "Awe" yet? Be cool to hunt with Shock and Awe!
Hello where is a good place to get pigeons? I've looked for a place in town but no luck. I tried buying from your website but it says out of stock. When will you have more in stock?
When do you learn the dog to fetch before pointing lessons with bird launchers or after establishing a firm point.What do you do if the dog doesnt take the bird in mouth.Thank you
Thanks for watching! We start working on building retrieving drive with little 8 week old puppies! We also do bird introductions before the puppies learn to point with launchers. If they don't want to retrieve the birds we try a bunch of fun tricks to get them interested in feathers (we can help give you suggestions and help more via patreon: www.patreon.com/standingstonekennels). Ultimately if they lack retrieving drive and won't pick up birds we would consider doing a trained retrieve when they are old enough (close to a year old).
When do you start training with pigeons or scent. I have a 9 week old GSP that I already have listening to here,sit,shake and was wondering when I shoukd start on birds
Great video as always!!! Question: My dog hasn't been around gunfire since last hunting season she did great then after training her as shown. She has demonstrated big time shyness with the neighbors shooting off fireworks during the weeks around the holiday. Do we need to start over with her to work on the new shyness?
Mine is on her 4th season. Steady wing shot fall. And she still hates fireworks. If they have prey drive gunfire becomes part of there reward of getting the bird
I'm planning to use a shooting range for acclimation. The thoughts about distance and focus will be applied. Thanks for another great video. Your concepts have helped me train and acclimate our bordoodle to a variety of situations and sounds including power tools. Good stuff.
@@StandingStoneKennels I’ll park down the street and have a bag of roasted chicken in hand. Every time a shot goes off and she is positive and curious, she will get chicken and praise. We will progress slowly building the association. This is how I did the power tools. Best I can do for her here in Chicago.
You should look into using balloons as well. Small balloons are not as loud as big balloons. Something that you can do in the house and the backyard while they are young. Great way to introduce gunfire if you don’t have a lot of land or time to do gunfire intros.
Yeah, obviously a balloon and a shotgun aren’t the same. But most people can’t fire a shotgun in their house. Most people find it difficult to get out to an open field to fire a shotgun regularly. So training sessions tend to get compressed into covering everything. Popping balloons, I’ve found, gives you a good base to gunfire and it’s something you can do in your house in a much more controlled environment. It may not work for everyone but being able to up your training sessions from once a week to 2-3 times is going to allow people to reduce the amount of things covered in a single session and really work on conditioning rather than exposing
I have a question I have been dying for an answer … I have a 7 year old bird dog… dove hunted all of her life. The kind I would never have to leave my chair during the hunt… last year we started hunting ducks, and we are getting really big in it… with her being in a blind, and can’t see the ducks like she can the dove. she’s having a hard time finding the ducks… for example, last year she brought back a decoy… she’s an excellent bird dog, she just needs a little tweak. Is there anything I can do? Especially with duck season being right around the corner?
She has relied on her vision her whole life. You need to get her using her nose and you. I would start with teaching hand signals (whistle sit, over/back) and teaching her to use her nose by finding dead birds in cover. Then combine the 2. Lone Duck and Freddy King has some good videos that show drills for teaching hand signals.
i get my dog in 3 weeks and its an imported brittany (from france britton) litteraly my dream dog.... and my worst fear is that he fear gun shots.... you explaning it helps the last thing i want is a good dog becoming useless...... i say that because ive seen good hunting dogs become petrified of noises like fireworks or gun shots....worst part..... some of them being guard dogs
I don't want to be rude but did anyone else notice at 7:05 she pointed the gun right at him and the dog? I know it was open, but still bad barrel control and he should have said something.
I think dogs have become more cowardly over the last 50-60 years. A well bred hunting dog will allow you to shoot your gun without failing you. If your dog has no natural courage...You just have a pseudo-hunting dog.
Thanks for being willing to still use the live bird. People love to pretend they don't know where meat comes from. Sometimes not everything is pretty. Hunting for your own meat is pretty damn ethical in the grand scheme.
Hunting for meat is very ethical. This particular training exercise does not appear necessary or ethical. Not all dogs are as good as mine but I didn’t need to torture any birds to teach her to hunt
Thank you. Perfect timing. I have a 9 mo female that I have yet to introduce to gun fire, mainly due to lack of birds since it is breeding season for all of the hatcheries. this video will come in handy when I do the first intro and follow up sessions.
Loving the videos, probably have watched 2-3 a night since I’ve found the page! We are picking up our first GSP at the end of the month, time to learn how to train a bird dog
Exactly how I've always done this. Works great. Great videos
Right on, thanks for watching
Subscribed! First vid of yours ive seen.. golden
Thanks ! Great video and tips once again I will try it shortly. Even if our girl was introduced to gun already a few times I will give this a try from 30-40yds with real ammo
Very helpfull video.Greetings from Greece.
Great video. Clear instructions.
Thank you . Veoma lep video i dosta toga lepog i poučno u njemu 🇷🇸
Thanks for the support
We took our pup to the local gun range a few times and walked towards the trap lines. No indication of nervousness. Next are the pigeons and shooting conditioning you just showed in this video. Tonight will be our first pigeons! It's so awesome Shock is the same age as my pup. AND just to be more like a stalker, we went to SD this weekend to check out our fields for pheasant hunting so we're on the same schedule as Shock is in more ways than one. Great videos!
That's the same path I am planning. Good to know.
Don’t go to the trap range. There is no context for the noise.. I am glad this worked for you but could have gone the opposite. If you see apprehension.. all that you have done is created a problem. Reach out if you have questions!
@@StandingStoneKennels - I haven't been to the gun range again since you responded to my post. Thank you for responding. I have since taken my dog out and retrieved around timed gun fire like your video showed. He did great! glad I didn't mess him up with my trip to the gun range. I look forward to more video's with Shock! IS there a dog named "Awe" yet? Be cool to hunt with Shock and Awe!
I planned on doing the same thing when I got my pup but luckily the breeder said absolutely not and keep it far away from fireworks.
Hello where is a good place to get pigeons? I've looked for a place in town but no luck. I tried buying from your website but it says out of stock. When will you have more in stock?
When do you learn the dog to fetch before pointing lessons with bird launchers or after establishing a firm point.What do you do if the dog doesnt take the bird in mouth.Thank you
Thanks for watching! We start working on building retrieving drive with little 8 week old puppies! We also do bird introductions before the puppies learn to point with launchers. If they don't want to retrieve the birds we try a bunch of fun tricks to get them interested in feathers (we can help give you suggestions and help more via patreon: www.patreon.com/standingstonekennels). Ultimately if they lack retrieving drive and won't pick up birds we would consider doing a trained retrieve when they are old enough (close to a year old).
When do you start training with pigeons or scent. I have a 9 week old GSP that I already have listening to here,sit,shake and was wondering when I shoukd start on birds
Really tough to find primers today as you know could you start with a 20 ga just further out?
You got a video on how to get live pigeons?
10:49 "I already brought it I might as well"
Are you running the collar after the dog picks up the bird on his way back? If so on vibrate or stimulation?
Great video as always!!! Question: My dog hasn't been around gunfire since last hunting season she did great then after training her as shown. She has demonstrated big time shyness with the neighbors shooting off fireworks during the weeks around the holiday. Do we need to start over with her to work on the new shyness?
Shouldn’t be needed if the oup has hunted a season!
Mine is on her 4th season. Steady wing shot fall. And she still hates fireworks. If they have prey drive gunfire becomes part of there reward of getting the bird
I'm planning to use a shooting range for acclimation. The thoughts about distance and focus will be applied. Thanks for another great video. Your concepts have helped me train and acclimate our bordoodle to a variety of situations and sounds including power tools. Good stuff.
Don’t do it!!! You don’t have control over the timing of anything happening.
@@StandingStoneKennels I’ll park down the street and have a bag of roasted chicken in hand. Every time a shot goes off and she is positive and curious, she will get chicken and praise. We will progress slowly building the association. This is how I did the power tools. Best I can do for her here in Chicago.
@@robertmcgraw9208 Fried chicken and South Side of Chicago shooting. 🤣
I hear what you are saying, but reach out to me there are better options. If chicken isn’t enough to pull focus you have created a problem.
That’s a terrible idea Robert!
You should look into using balloons as well. Small balloons are not as loud as big balloons. Something that you can do in the house and the backyard while they are young. Great way to introduce gunfire if you don’t have a lot of land or time to do gunfire intros.
Great idea
Not really the same.
Yeah, obviously a balloon and a shotgun aren’t the same. But most people can’t fire a shotgun in their house. Most people find it difficult to get out to an open field to fire a shotgun regularly. So training sessions tend to get compressed into covering everything. Popping balloons, I’ve found, gives you a good base to gunfire and it’s something you can do in your house in a much more controlled environment. It may not work for everyone but being able to up your training sessions from once a week to 2-3 times is going to allow people to reduce the amount of things covered in a single session and really work on conditioning rather than exposing
@@bballplayer5555 of course it helps, it's sound Desensitization, good idea.
Do you ever call for the shot THEN throw the bird, to mimic real conditions?
This progression happens back in the field!
Pitas mad😂
I have a question I have been dying for an answer … I have a 7 year old bird dog… dove hunted all of her life. The kind I would never have to leave my chair during the hunt… last year we started hunting ducks, and we are getting really big in it… with her being in a blind, and can’t see the ducks like she can the dove. she’s having a hard time finding the ducks… for example, last year she brought back a decoy… she’s an excellent bird dog, she just needs a little tweak. Is there anything I can do? Especially with duck season being right around the corner?
She has relied on her vision her whole life. You need to get her using her nose and you. I would start with teaching hand signals (whistle sit, over/back) and teaching her to use her nose by finding dead birds in cover. Then combine the 2. Lone Duck and Freddy King has some good videos that show drills for teaching hand signals.
Can you add Russian subtitle translation?
i get my dog in 3 weeks and its an imported brittany (from france britton) litteraly my dream dog.... and my worst fear is that he fear gun shots.... you explaning it helps the last thing i want is a good dog becoming useless...... i say that because ive seen good hunting dogs become petrified of noises like fireworks or gun shots....worst part..... some of them being guard dogs
Live birds are typically better, hippies don't get it, though you could trim their wings like chickens.
useful info, just too damned chatty - could do it in half the time
Why would a dog be introduced to gunfire with anything but a live bird. 😂
10:54 How is it okay to pull the bird's feathers out while it's still alive - that's agonising!
This guy likes to talk to much just get to it damn
Lots to talk about on this topic!
I don't want to be rude but did anyone else notice at 7:05 she pointed the gun right at him and the dog? I know it was open, but still bad barrel control and he should have said something.
I think dogs have become more cowardly over the last 50-60 years. A well bred hunting dog will allow you to shoot your gun without failing you. If your dog has no natural courage...You just have a pseudo-hunting dog.
I agree