Have you tried new ACC update? What are your first thoughts so far? To explain "free setups" Im working on solution but my laziness is against me at this moment I need Jose my moderator to slap my face so we finish it
Acc 1.9 is not playable for my pc... minimum requirments are now 4gb vidram instead of 2gb... Only on minimum settings it was 2 Laps.. otherwise i get in the car and pc gets stuck at Grey screen
so far good , ferrari is really easy to drive ,havent really tried old cars i just dont have setups and dont know how to setup correctly besides changing bias pressures and wing
Now bumpstop has hard stop after some range (for example 30mm). If you hit that hard stop - car would transfer whole energy to the body and fly you high) it could be tracked by motec
I think it's the smiles, the positivity in Jardier's attitude, it just always makes me happy :) Sometimes really cheers me up when i get some downs from life. Thanks!
Thanks Jardier! Everytime I watch your videos or streams. I get an instant urge to play ACC. Your positivity and passion are contagious. Keep it up! You’ve inspired me to start streaming! You are the most entertaining and talented streamers out there!!
What helped me a little with those random mid-corner oversteers is to go stiffer on the rebounds. It feels like the grip balance changes a lot when releasing the brakes in 1.9
The big difference of opinion about acc ffb is because it changes drastically depending on the car setup. So not always the same car will have the same feeling. This is really cool and is one of the strengths of acc on my opinion.
100% I think thats what people dont realise going to ACC (again could have been specified in the game so people understand) that each car feel different :)
Thanks for the info/tips, Jardier! I'm loving the 1.9 update. I have about 300-400hrs in the 991.2 and loving the new 992. I was away from ACC for about a year but this is bringing me back in. A bit of stability to work out with the new update, the drifting happens in a few corners too. Overall just loving the game the happy to keep going for years.
Hey Jardier, I didn't drove ACC since the update yet, but I'm studying automotive engineering and it seems that the new 1.9 Version is really comparable to the real life. So here are some tips/explanations for your mid corner oversteer problem. 1. The Tyres in ACC now have flex, and that means that the sides of your tires deforming under lateral force. The peak or maximum deform is reached when the lateral forces are maximum, so in mid corner. Then it could be possible, that the tyre flex is so high that the tyre contact point gets smaller. The result is less grip. In this case you want higher pressures since the tyres are flexing less with higher pressures (as Aris also explained in his livestreams). But higher pressures often mean more graining. So here you have to find a good compromise. 2. For this point you should know that tyres have limited grip for all directions. If you are braking and turning the tyre have to compromise one movement, because the tyre only have a limited amount of grip and have to split this for braking and turning. This is also the reason why trailbraking is so important. The moment the oversteer takes place is exactly that moment when you are fully releasing the brakes. In that moment you stop to ask the tyre for braking force so now the tyre has more grip for turning. And because the brake balace is more on the front this force gap is bigger at the front as it is on the rear. So the front tyres can build more transversal forces. In result the balance of the car is shifting to the front (because the transversal forces are growing more in the front than in the rear tyres) and the car oversteers. 3. When you are releasing the brake the cars weigth transfer is shifting back to the rear. So in this case there is a movement in your suspension and therefor damping takes place. If you get oversteer in this case you can try to soften the rear slow bump settings. Because the car is pitching to the rear if you are releasing the brakes (or get on the accelerator). But if the rear bump is to stiff the tyres can't build enough grip and it causes oversteer. So simply try to soften the rear slow bump or stiffen the front slow rebound since a slower rebound is allowing the spring to press the car up at the front (so a rotation to the rear). 4. You can also try to add more negative camber, but only if your camber settings are not that extrem as it was normal in 1.8. If you try this tips I would be happy to know if something helped or maked the problem even worse. Good luck
Exactly what I was looking for. Not simply "do this because I do this and seems it works" but "doing this, what happens and why". Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
In 3rd point in one sentence you said to soften rear bump, then later on to stiffen it. If i understand setups correctly and what you are trying to say: oversteer under braking (or after releasing brake) -> make the rear slow bump softer for the car to change its balance to the rear more easly?
I think ACC should be following SRO events more closer and changing the BOP more regularly. As it is the licensed SRO game. It should be receiving car BoP updates like Sports games pump out player rating changes.... Because I just watched Monza SRO, and as an avid AMG fan, it was the BMW that was the clear fastest straight line speed.... So there should be no reason we turn on the game and have AMG being the king of Monza. it isn't 2022 anymore, its 2023, and hopefully we dont have to wait until 2024 to drive a BoP that actually mimics real life...
It's quite strange because the SRO BoP is quite similar to how online multiplayer games get balance patches...yet this game doesn't keep up with the Bop...
I've been enjoying the new lambo, especially when everyone else picks the Ferrari cos it's so much better out of the box. In the pitskill races we've been doing at Bathurst this week there's been at least one lambo on the podium in every race I think
Hi Jardier Thanks for sharing your thoughts. This is kindofa long response but since you asked..... For me, I am really happy for the upgrade and the DLC. I watched Aris's pre-release videos and had a good idea what to expect. I also watched the release race, watching my favorite content creaters -- so lots of time on you-tube. 🙂 My first experience driving on Thursday evening, was that my home grown setups and my Coach Dave (CDA) and HYMO setups are complete do-overs. I'm an average racer, with a modest 1:68.97 best at Misano in the McLaren. I have modest skills for set ups, learning as I go. It takes me a lot of hours to develop a set-up I'm comfortable with. So rather than go racing, I spent my first 6 hours in the game starting over with setups. Testing and tweaking , with lots of hot lapping. The McLaren, is my car of choice, and CDA and HYMO wont have new V1.9 compatible setups for that car for awhile. I like the new tire model and wider target pressure range. I am finding definate handling differences between higher and lower pressures. Finally settling on 26.7 as good target for what I like to feel. I really like that it doesn't have to be exact. The force feedback is different and better, for me. I have CSL DD with McLaren V2 wheel, on a GT Omega Prime Rig. Again, having watched Aris Tyre and Suspension video, I had a good idea of what to expect and found the little bit of vagueness at wheel center pretty easy to correct with minor toe and camber adjustments that made positive improvements in time and feel. There is endless tweaking still to go with dampers, aero and maybe differential. I haven't been able to break 1:38 yet since V1.9. I want to be a safe and competive racer in my class so am not going anywhere near LFM for a bit, which is disappointing. But is on me and my lack of confidence in my ability. I enjoy and appreciate the realistic approach Kunos has taken in giving us so much more than a game. At the same time I'm a little whistful over how challenging and time consuming it is for somone like me to get consitent, reliable behaviors from a car that I feel confident driving at its, and my limit.
I would not worry about laptimes too much now because speed in corners and on straight is different, on watkins glen we are now around 1s slower than before, but we are faster at monza for example :)
The Ferrari 296 drives similar to the 720S, but power is 100% Ferrari. It looks like the fuel is OP, but front tires have issues getting into temp range without completely closing brake ducts.
Ferrari 296 does everything I wanted from 720S to do, just transitioned to it and it felt very natural, also new ffb helps, and default agressive presets are great, I just adjust tyre pressure and I am ready to go (I only do 20-25min races, so not going to far in tyre wear)
Liking the update. Everything feels a little looser - more squash in the tyres felt in initial braking, mid corner push/slide and slightly more nervous rear end. I've found I'm driving a little more conservatively. There's not quite as much reward in hard breaking and trying to hold high apex speeds. More focus on getting the car settled and getting a good racing line and fast exit
for me personally i never really connected with the 'feel' of the game ... but gave 1.9 a go and everything just feels right almost organic . the ffb on my GPro wheel with trueforce enabled spot on. im just a pub racer so im sure much of the problems for the serious racers i wouldnt notice. just glad the devs are delivering updates that provide a better experience.
I just got my first wheel ever. I used a Xbox controller for the longest time and I played every racing game out there I've always wanted to play sim racing games ever since gran turismo back in the ps1 era. I now have my first wheel moza r5 dd wheel I've waited this long to jump into a steering wheel. And now I'll never go back to gamepad. I played assetto corsa competizione and the update made the force feedback flawless heck I don't spin out anymore. I'm soo happy for the update. I absolutely love this game. The only other game I play is iracing and Im still learning how to transition from gamepad to wheel it's much more difficult but more natural. Anyways good video dude covering this amazing game.
My 720S was eating the kerbs at Kyalami the other day. Seemed like a huge improvement in that regard :) Love the update in general and totally agree with your comments on BoP and tracks for the future. Quality vid laddie!
LFG Jardier! Your workouts and diet are working man. I haven’t watched your videos in awhile and it’s awesome to see the progress. Keep it up dude. Also thanks for the informative video.
I like the Update. Even if everybody sits in the new ferrari now, because its so incredibly easy to drive. Also the Force Feedback has improved a lot for me.
I hate to admit, last week when it was released, I had no idea about it (not sure how I missed the hype but I don't go on social media much anymore). I jumped straight into a race in kyalami and had no idea what was going on with my car! It was like someone (my wife maybe) had broken it. I retired for fear of more embarrassment and tried a race at monza only to be 3 seconds slower and myself even more confused as to why my McLaren was going everywhere but where I wanted it to. I only realised after someone told me about the update on the chat. Since then, I really like it. I took the opportunity to ditch my McLaren and try the merc and so far, it's going really well. Love the fact the tires need more care and attention and I may even try another race tonight now I'm getting used to it!
Great roundup mate. Thank you. I really like the new cars - I drove the Ferrari around for a bit and it gave me some confidence to jump into a multiplayer lobby which I don’t usually do due to time constraints. I’m glad I did it as I managed to finish 2nd 😂 Keep up your great content!
Great video thanks Jardier! New to ACC and I'm loving your content, keep it up mate! I've experienced the loss of rear grip and watched a few cars run into this problem as well. I think it's a combination of dirty air from the car in front and overheating tires. You could just be asking too much from a stiff rear end mid corner as well?
BIG FAN OF THIS CHANNEL I've been watching you videos every since i started playing acc!!! youve helped me so much jardier!!! i watch the lines you take and try and put it into practice my slef and hmmm im getting quicker. playing on xbox x with a pad....i know haha its hard hahaha we need more people in the world like you my friend!!!!! sharing setups for free because at the end of the day all we want is to have fun.......and to win aswel hahahaha thanks for the amazing videos mate
I was on the fringe with ACC before , I liked it but wasn't crazy about it and played other sim racers. But since this update I've been totally hooked. A massive improvement for me
Great analysis Jardier, the 992 is definitely my favorite car to drive now. Just really seem to be struggling on the brakes now not sure if it's only me.
The physics is the best part of this release IMO. I always found ACC to be on rails and musting too much would result in me slipping and not able to recover. Now I can really push hard and feel confident. However, it is not perfect, there is some bouncing on some turns. No change for me regarding FFB.
As a AMG main, I am so happy with it currently, alot more mid corner grip. I also agree that 1.9 requires a stiffer car, my old philosophy was usually softest front, harder rear, (13100, 10100) to now needing a stiffer chassis (15100, 111000 )
@@Jardier Not yet, mostly Monza (outlier), Zolder, Valencia. Im still adapting my PS4 setups so trying to fully dial in what feels good as well as get used to PC BOP. (hope to race you some time!) Got Monza feeling solid 47.8 with quite a stiff suspension, but soft rollbar. It just attacks Ascari immensely
I had the same feeling first time driving ferrari 296. I usually drive bmw and decided to try new ferrari. It was so similar to bmw I was shocked. Lap times were very similar to my bmw laps. I liked it very much. Also brakes, as you said and like one meme shows: brakes- sometimes maybe goood, sometimes maybe shieet.. But still I will adopt ferrari for now.
@ Jardier, if you are sitting in a chair, turn the camera autofocus off, then your hands won't confuse it, you went in and out a few times there for nothing gained for having the feature turned on.
Only done one race. 24hr of Watkins glen . We signed up with Honda. But it was dead so had to switch to Aston 7pm before event We worked hard on set up to try and save tyres. We got it decent in dry. Tyres would start going of at 55mins. On the day…… very little dry. Was damp. Needed to be on dries to be fast. But the dries died after 30 mins. With driving we got them to 45 mins max and then we was losing 19 seconds a lap . Having to do 40/45 mins stints in a 24hr race was a pain. Haha Full wet parts, tyres Just acted like 1.8 on full wets. Just acted same all stint
I played ACC a lot at the start of the year, then stop and move to AC for a tournament there, and then get back to ACC after the update, and I feel now the FFB is more like AC but not quite there yet. I have a G923 Wheel.
Jardier, the new grip "snap" you talked about, is because of the new electronics behavior Aris drive talked about. TC will let you power oversteer alot more but more controllable . So i guess you guys need to use a bit more TC if you dont like the new grip level.
Thanks for this video Jardier. I too had the same thoughts after trying out the new update. Obviously not to this technicality, but did feel some good changes. I haven't tried the Porsche and the Lamborghini yet, but the Ferrari feels good. I had just started driving the 488 again a few days before the update and I stand by your statement about the changes to the suspension behaviour. The brakes do feel weird at times, like they have a mind of their own, on the 296. But overall in my opinion it can be a good starter car. I'm looking forward to start driving the 992 now. I never dared to drive the 991 but after hearing how much work has gone into the newer car, it could be my next favourite. Also, don't know if it was just me, but why did you start looking redder as the video went on? Lol..
hahahah thanks mate! Sadly my settings for camera is very simple for video puproses and as "day" went further there was different light in my room resulting in that hahaha
Great video Jards - The update was needed, but again they make it hard on players with such little information on how the setups work that everyone needs communities to understand whats going on. Motec isn't a suitable option - they need to add some better setup diagnostics in the game to help players setup the car and get more out of the sim, we're not racing engineers!!
Yeah I keep saying that, I even made forum post about complexity of the setup and there is zero info in the game, you dont even know the pressures correctly in game... I hate it personally the little info. Not everyone knows where to go and search to find the info :(
overall i think the changes brought some improvement to the way the cars handle, but on some setups the FFB feels really messed up, the bouncing is another werid thing, I had some moments with the M4 at Spa, in "no name" (or speakers corner), when you go over the kerb on the inside , I had some unsavable bouncing spins
Biggest changes for me are the FF and the tyre/suspension behavior. I drove the Audi Evo on Valencia and immediately felt a different FF, much more informative and connected to the track, but when I try it on SPA it did not feel as connected, but still better than before. You indeed have to be more careful how you setup car for race, on suspension geometry and tyre temps, as well as drive more careful. I reduced camber and toe for race session, and while it helped me keep my tyres safe compared to other drivers, they were pretty worn on a 45 minute stint, which means I still need to lower the settings a bit more and drive more smooth (which I believe I usually do). The new Ferrari is fantastic, it does not feel like the other Ferraris. This one feels way much better balanced and predictable. I believe we still will need more time to understand and get familiar with ACC 1.9, for me a new sim compared to 1.8.x. Hope there will be no more magical settings that exploits physics engine holes.
i havnt had time to drive much. but i think what you are experiencing when you start sliding (like around 15:30) is bottoming the suspention out on the bumps. that corner has quite a bit of camber and since the bumpstops are not infinite anymore. when you hit the end of travel on the bumpstop, the spring rate becomes infinite, which makes you lose grip. its really just a guess from my few hours of testing. but i think it makes sense
Yeah I noticed this for the brake of the 296..on Kyalami..sometimes I brake earlier and sometimes later compared to 488…296 the new M4 ? Sad…Concerning the update I totally agree with you concerning softness of suspensions. When I upgraded to 1.9 I first tried 488 I was used to drive, agressive setup then go setups. Conclusion is that the go setup was too much soft..for example almost impossible to enter the chicane on Watkins. Concerning the behaviour of the car entering a corner, I had difficulties to catch the apex on 1.8 when releasing the brake, the car had oversteer or understeer. Now I keep better the line and noticed the exit oversteer you talk about but it’ s linear and controllable, not brutal as before but yeah more pronounced. So yeah, great update. Just sad that so much people drive Ferrari now, she should be reserved for former 488 drivers 😅, us only deserve it 😊
id say with the cars getting launched over curbs, it has to do with the contact physics between the car and the ground, where the car model clips into the ground and makes it go boing
Just yesterday I had a race in the 992 where my car turned into a bouncy castle when I was doing my pitstop. It's good to know that it wasn't a one-off bug but seemingly a bigger issue that hopefully gets fixed soon. Though your car was jumping even higher than mine. :D
the worst thing for me now is the last you said. Some behaviors over the curbs are too strange. The car bounces a lot and I hate it. The FFB is "more" but not better, the sliding is annoying, the new Ferrari seems a front engine car, but it is still ACC. The new tire model seems good, the temps are more natural I believe. Anyway, your attitude makes everything nice. :D
@Jardier Thinking of getting the new Simucube ActivePedals. In real life for example, braking into ABS then backing off to "threshold" braking would yield greater deceleration/braking. Does ACC behave in the same way?
Hi Jardier, Very Nice video. It is always a pleasure to see your videos. I really would like to know if you can make a short video to explain how you suggest to IMPROVE CONSISTENCY. Overall which is according to you the best track to be able to IMPROVE CONS, over all for new beginner like me. I have been driving on ACC only 350 hours and I have difficulties to improve from 75. Some time I reach 79, but then some time I drop to 70. I would really like if you have good tutor or advices for that. Thank you again for passion and for your shares.
Simucube 2 PRO user here... Force Feeback is quite a disaster... Either you got super weird recenter oscilations (on low damping) on the wheel or you got a non-responsive wreckball (if you go higher on daming values to compensate). The worst FFB by far if you compare it to AC1, AMS2 or Rfactor 2
I downloaded and installed the addon but if I want to select the cars, a lock is display over them. Do I need to have a specific rating or conplete the campaign etc.? Also the 2023 challenge is not visible.
Just started this game and i have no idea what anyone is talking about on here, ive played Gran Turismo as far back as i remember but im on Xbox now and i feel like this game is more in depth
I spent two hours today playing with ffb settings and have started to get it somewhere how it felt with 1.8. This is after complaining like a child for nearly a week. The sudden loss of grip is clearly an issue and not something that is seen in real life so need to be dealt with in my opinion. Prior to changing my ffb it felt like the front wheels were made of wood and covered in butter. I could have cried, I love this game with 1000 hours over the year. It still isn't great but it is better and usable. Some cars though I am now up to 3 seconds a lap slower than I was. Not sure whats going on there. On the plus side the lap delta seems to be a little bit more accurate and on the downside, if you stray too close to the grass or edge of the circuit it can be massively unpredictable which is so over the top and not accurate to real life. I liked 1.8 as it encouraged tidy and accurate driving, now its just a little too slidy. For me its killed the speed buzz a little bit. Don't trash me, its just my observations.
some one said that the new sudden loss of grip is due to the new tyre flexing stuff they added. try trail braking a bit more and pump up the tyres a bit so they are not as under pressured. mid to high 26's
the biggest update in game is still missing - that teammates can setup the pit stop in a multiplayer race for the driver. ( and don't tell me there is an extra piece of buggy software out there)
Great explanation, I appreciate your videos... my favorite car is the Aston Martin, I've been struggling with it a bit, I've tried other cars also and been feeling the same, what you say on minute 14:06, out of nowhere get massive sideways, a huge slide, It is frustrating, I feel i have to be VERY CAREFUL. I don't know if it's setup or the way the handling is now.
I havent played acc for 2 years or something like that was iRacing all the way and came back to buy the new dlc because we need to support kunos and 13€ we are ripping off kunos.. Felt in love again... let iRacing be right noew and will be with acc from now on
I haven't tried all cars yet since the update but I feel some cares steering angle is greatly reduced so i have to nearly cross my arms to get through some chicanes, hope there are some fixes soon as some cars are just odd, maybe its just me. but also looking forward to the bop as that'll hopefully make the racing closer.
The game is in a great state right now, LFM going great, many players! Imo ACC is the best simracing experience out there right now. The only problem I have is that some cars just seem way stronger than other cars, I wish there was a better balance, but we know a BoP patch is coming up.
@North Valley They don't ban people for "fun". They ban people who drive dirty, and if you continue to drive dirty you will continue to get reports resulting in actual bans.
The trak: when I watched you drive it, I was not that impressed. It looks a bit 'boring', but thats just based on the colors and foilage. But, when driving it..... IT IS GREAT :) Such a nice flow! challenging and every corner fits the rest of the track. Not like some other tracks that have a good flow, and then suddenly a chicane that breaks all flow (read: Barcelona). Yeah, Valencia is a very good track!
ACC is so different. I haven't been playing for a month as I swapped pedals. So on top of the pedals difference it feels like starting all new. No old setup work on the M4. Engine braking alone coupled with old setups generate a ridiculous weight transfer. I have the back of the car lifting by just releasing the brake. We need much stiffer setups that keep the car balance in place. Even an advanced setup doesn't mitigate this issue. I'm trying in Suzuka where I used to do the multiple "s" by pushing and releasing the accelerator, but I find it quite difficult. Need different setups.
@Jardier i would love to know what you think about my Example. You described it in the Porsche like you lost the Grip completely sometimes in the Corner. I got that aswell i think in the AMG. Especially on Watkins (same Corner as in the Video) and Monza (Lesmo1) AND at the same time the whole FFB or the Feeling of the Front goes away. I almost got a complete light Steering and almost no Feeling and FFB in that Case. It p*sses me off a bit xD I think i figured out, that going like 27.0 to 27.2 PSI makes it a bit better. It felt way better for me. You had the same Issue in the Porsche with the light Steering? And maybe some Tips to get rid of it? Cheers! :)
Hey mate, hmmm hard to tell cause with FFB you can change so many things including slip, so thats probably personal preference. But generally if you are sliding or without grip ffb should be lighter (same in real car). But you can add more caster to have more strong ffb naturaly :)
Have you tried new ACC update? What are your first thoughts so far?
To explain "free setups" Im working on solution but my laziness is against me at this moment I need Jose my moderator to slap my face so we finish it
Acc 1.9 is not playable for my pc... minimum requirments are now 4gb vidram instead of 2gb...
Only on minimum settings it was 2 Laps.. otherwise i get in the car and pc gets stuck at Grey screen
so far good , ferrari is really easy to drive ,havent really tried old cars i just dont have setups and dont know how to setup correctly besides changing bias pressures and wing
New update is fun. Macca feels awful though. Moved to the new Ferrari for now and it feels great.
Really like it so far. Especially the new Porsche so much fun to drive when it's not trying to kill me
Now bumpstop has hard stop after some range (for example 30mm). If you hit that hard stop - car would transfer whole energy to the body and fly you high) it could be tracked by motec
I think it's the smiles, the positivity in Jardier's attitude, it just always makes me happy :) Sometimes really cheers me up when i get some downs from life. Thanks!
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Thanks Jardier! Everytime I watch your videos or streams. I get an instant urge to play ACC. Your positivity and passion are contagious. Keep it up! You’ve inspired me to start streaming! You are the most entertaining and talented streamers out there!!
Thank you so much mate!!!! :)
Agreed!!
The 992 pleasantly surprised me. Feels like the 720s but you’re able to control the rear a lot more.
100% agree tried both and 992 feels a lot nicer and because I used to main 720 I’m instantly fast in the 992
ACC in my opinion is the best sim. Hope to see more tracks like Sebring, Daytona, ...
It is! But not for VR unfortunately 😢
@@Hani_Santa Didn't know about that. I like anyways my triple screen setup
I am afraid this will be the last year with new content due to AC2 arriving in 2024
I live so close to Sebring I’d love to see it in acc
to be the best sim it needs more tracks, absolutely ridiculous that they released an american dlc without tracks like road atlanta and sebring
What helped me a little with those random mid-corner oversteers is to go stiffer on the rebounds. It feels like the grip balance changes a lot when releasing the brakes in 1.9
Also zero toe infront helps a lot too :)
The big difference of opinion about acc ffb is because it changes drastically depending on the car setup. So not always the same car will have the same feeling. This is really cool and is one of the strengths of acc on my opinion.
100% I think thats what people dont realise going to ACC (again could have been specified in the game so people understand) that each car feel different :)
Thanks for the info/tips, Jardier! I'm loving the 1.9 update. I have about 300-400hrs in the 991.2 and loving the new 992. I was away from ACC for about a year but this is bringing me back in. A bit of stability to work out with the new update, the drifting happens in a few corners too. Overall just loving the game the happy to keep going for years.
Hey Jardier, I didn't drove ACC since the update yet, but I'm studying automotive engineering and it seems that the new 1.9 Version is really comparable to the real life. So here are some tips/explanations for your mid corner oversteer problem.
1. The Tyres in ACC now have flex, and that means that the sides of your tires deforming under lateral force. The peak or maximum deform is reached when the lateral forces are maximum, so in mid corner. Then it could be possible, that the tyre flex is so high that the tyre contact point gets smaller. The result is less grip. In this case you want higher pressures since the tyres are flexing less with higher pressures (as Aris also explained in his livestreams). But higher pressures often mean more graining. So here you have to find a good compromise.
2. For this point you should know that tyres have limited grip for all directions. If you are braking and turning the tyre have to compromise one movement, because the tyre only have a limited amount of grip and have to split this for braking and turning. This is also the reason why trailbraking is so important. The moment the oversteer takes place is exactly that moment when you are fully releasing the brakes. In that moment you stop to ask the tyre for braking force so now the tyre has more grip for turning. And because the brake balace is more on the front this force gap is bigger at the front as it is on the rear. So the front tyres can build more transversal forces. In result the balance of the car is shifting to the front (because the transversal forces are growing more in the front than in the rear tyres) and the car oversteers.
3. When you are releasing the brake the cars weigth transfer is shifting back to the rear. So in this case there is a movement in your suspension and therefor damping takes place. If you get oversteer in this case you can try to soften the rear slow bump settings. Because the car is pitching to the rear if you are releasing the brakes (or get on the accelerator). But if the rear bump is to stiff the tyres can't build enough grip and it causes oversteer. So simply try to soften the rear slow bump or stiffen the front slow rebound since a slower rebound is allowing the spring to press the car up at the front (so a rotation to the rear).
4. You can also try to add more negative camber, but only if your camber settings are not that extrem as it was normal in 1.8.
If you try this tips I would be happy to know if something helped or maked the problem even worse. Good luck
This is very clear description and guidance. Thanks for taking time to share. If ok will copy and use for reference.😊
@@rickthomas9894 Thank you. Yeah sure, you can copy it :)
Exactly what I was looking for. Not simply "do this because I do this and seems it works" but "doing this, what happens and why". Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
In 3rd point in one sentence you said to soften rear bump, then later on to stiffen it. If i understand setups correctly and what you are trying to say: oversteer under braking (or after releasing brake) -> make the rear slow bump softer for the car to change its balance to the rear more easly?
@@simonecoggiola3128 Your welcome. And thanks for the kind words :)
I think ACC should be following SRO events more closer and changing the BOP more regularly. As it is the licensed SRO game. It should be receiving car BoP updates like Sports games pump out player rating changes....
Because I just watched Monza SRO, and as an avid AMG fan, it was the BMW that was the clear fastest straight line speed.... So there should be no reason we turn on the game and have AMG being the king of Monza. it isn't 2022 anymore, its 2023, and hopefully we dont have to wait until 2024 to drive a BoP that actually mimics real life...
I hear is bop’ ing to coincide with every real world race.
I think same as other sims ACC should do BOP fixes and changes at least 4 times per year. I wish there would be someone really working hard on it.
It's quite strange because the SRO BoP is quite similar to how online multiplayer games get balance patches...yet this game doesn't keep up with the Bop...
I've been enjoying the new lambo, especially when everyone else picks the Ferrari cos it's so much better out of the box. In the pitskill races we've been doing at Bathurst this week there's been at least one lambo on the podium in every race I think
Also I agree about the force feedback. Barely noticeable difference to me
Your super in depth video was even better, so much technical details in it. and the cliffhanger at the end, just wow
@@cucumberbush3528 I mean I didn't want to brag that mine was so much better than Jardier's but ya know, now you've said it...
Hi Jardier
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
This is kindofa long response but since you asked.....
For me, I am really happy for the upgrade and the DLC.
I watched Aris's pre-release videos and had a good idea what to expect. I also watched the release race, watching my favorite content creaters -- so lots of time on you-tube. 🙂
My first experience driving on Thursday evening, was that my home grown setups and my Coach Dave (CDA) and HYMO setups are complete do-overs. I'm an average racer, with a modest 1:68.97 best at Misano in the McLaren. I have modest skills for set ups, learning as I go. It takes me a lot of hours to develop a set-up I'm comfortable with. So rather than go racing, I spent my first 6 hours in the game starting over with setups. Testing and tweaking , with lots of hot lapping. The McLaren, is my car of choice, and CDA and HYMO wont have new V1.9 compatible setups for that car for awhile.
I like the new tire model and wider target pressure range. I am finding definate handling differences between higher and lower pressures. Finally settling on 26.7 as good target for what I like to feel. I really like that it doesn't have to be exact.
The force feedback is different and better, for me. I have CSL DD with McLaren V2 wheel, on a GT Omega Prime Rig.
Again, having watched Aris Tyre and Suspension video, I had a good idea of what to expect and found the little bit of vagueness at wheel center pretty easy to correct with minor toe and camber adjustments that made positive improvements in time and feel.
There is endless tweaking still to go with dampers, aero and maybe differential. I haven't been able to break 1:38 yet since V1.9.
I want to be a safe and competive racer in my class so am not going anywhere near LFM for a bit, which is disappointing. But is on me and my lack of confidence in my ability.
I enjoy and appreciate the realistic approach Kunos has taken in giving us so much more than a game. At the same time I'm a little whistful over how challenging and time consuming it is for somone like me to get consitent, reliable behaviors from a car that I feel confident driving at its, and my limit.
Hear you brother. 🙏🏼
I would not worry about laptimes too much now because speed in corners and on straight is different, on watkins glen we are now around 1s slower than before, but we are faster at monza for example :)
Agree with this and I've not gone near LFM. Need a lot of practice before I go back online in this game in particular.
I wonder if Portimao from the British GT will be added? Would be a cool addition
Would LOVE Portimao
The Ferrari 296 drives similar to the 720S, but power is 100% Ferrari. It looks like the fuel is OP, but front tires have issues getting into temp range without completely closing brake ducts.
Ferrari 296 does everything I wanted from 720S to do, just transitioned to it and it felt very natural, also new ffb helps, and default agressive presets are great, I just adjust tyre pressure and I am ready to go (I only do 20-25min races, so not going to far in tyre wear)
I feel a subtle improvement in the force feedback and i love it.
Liking the update. Everything feels a little looser - more squash in the tyres felt in initial braking, mid corner push/slide and slightly more nervous rear end.
I've found I'm driving a little more conservatively. There's not quite as much reward in hard breaking and trying to hold high apex speeds. More focus on getting the car settled and getting a good racing line and fast exit
You are awesome man!. Love your content and streams. I’ve learnt a lot just from you. Keep up the awesome work and take breaks too.
Thank you so much!!! :)
for me personally i never really connected with the 'feel' of the game ... but gave 1.9 a
go and everything just feels right almost organic .
the ffb on my GPro wheel with trueforce enabled spot on.
im just a pub racer so im sure much of the problems for the serious racers i wouldnt
notice.
just glad the devs are delivering updates that provide a better experience.
I just got my first wheel ever. I used a Xbox controller for the longest time and I played every racing game out there I've always wanted to play sim racing games ever since gran turismo back in the ps1 era. I now have my first wheel moza r5 dd wheel I've waited this long to jump into a steering wheel. And now I'll never go back to gamepad. I played assetto corsa competizione and the update made the force feedback flawless heck I don't spin out anymore. I'm soo happy for the update. I absolutely love this game. The only other game I play is iracing and Im still learning how to transition from gamepad to wheel it's much more difficult but more natural. Anyways good video dude covering this amazing game.
My 720S was eating the kerbs at Kyalami the other day. Seemed like a huge improvement in that regard :)
Love the update in general and totally agree with your comments on BoP and tracks for the future.
Quality vid laddie!
Awesome vid.
I'm definitely liking the slip angle on the tyres very realistic.
The same exact thing happens on the same corner on Watkins Glen in Gran Turismo 7. The car just says NOPE no more grip for you!!
LFG Jardier! Your workouts and diet are working man. I haven’t watched your videos in awhile and it’s awesome to see the progress. Keep it up dude. Also thanks for the informative video.
thank you :)
I like the Update. Even if everybody sits in the new ferrari now, because its so incredibly easy to drive. Also the Force Feedback has improved a lot for me.
I hate to admit, last week when it was released, I had no idea about it (not sure how I missed the hype but I don't go on social media much anymore). I jumped straight into a race in kyalami and had no idea what was going on with my car! It was like someone (my wife maybe) had broken it. I retired for fear of more embarrassment and tried a race at monza only to be 3 seconds slower and myself even more confused as to why my McLaren was going everywhere but where I wanted it to. I only realised after someone told me about the update on the chat. Since then, I really like it. I took the opportunity to ditch my McLaren and try the merc and so far, it's going really well. Love the fact the tires need more care and attention and I may even try another race tonight now I'm getting used to it!
Love you energy and spirit, mate!
Great overview/review! Keep up the good work Jardier!
Thank you for explaining so much details! Good work...
Great roundup mate. Thank you. I really like the new cars - I drove the Ferrari around for a bit and it gave me some confidence to jump into a multiplayer lobby which I don’t usually do due to time constraints. I’m glad I did it as I managed to finish 2nd 😂
Keep up your great content!
I don't know, the 992 on default Aggressive setup is a harrowing experience around Bathurst.
I agree with what you mention on the tire, that is very unforgiving when you slide, I feel exactly the same
Great video thanks Jardier! New to ACC and I'm loving your content, keep it up mate!
I've experienced the loss of rear grip and watched a few cars run into this problem as well. I think it's a combination of dirty air from the car in front and overheating tires. You could just be asking too much from a stiff rear end mid corner as well?
Thanks Jards great vid ❤️
Valencia is very nice to drive , in terms of flow it's the best one so exciting that fast right chicane in the last sector is crazy
Thanks for the review/tips 🙏
I think you forgot a little cut around 18:20 😶🌫
But mate, this is a super video, thanks for this one! Super recap of the update!
thats on purpose - had to take deep breath :D
@@Jardier 😂
BIG FAN OF THIS CHANNEL I've been watching you videos every since i started playing acc!!! youve helped me so much jardier!!! i watch the lines you take and try and put it into practice my slef and hmmm im getting quicker. playing on xbox x with a pad....i know haha its hard hahaha we need more people in the world like you my friend!!!!! sharing setups for free because at the end of the day all we want is to have fun.......and to win aswel hahahaha thanks for the amazing videos mate
Thank you so much!!!! :)
I was on the fringe with ACC before , I liked it but wasn't crazy about it and played other sim racers. But since this update I've been totally hooked. A massive improvement for me
Thats awesome!!! :)
I expect to have some QoL updates as well for endurances or for race admins (maybe to force drivers for a predefined setup) etc..
Interesting comment on toe. Some cars have max tow from aggressive preset. Unless you are referring to rear toe and not front.
Wait really? Whats cars have max neg toe? No way :o
Great analysis Jardier, the 992 is definitely my favorite car to drive now.
Just really seem to be struggling on the brakes now not sure if it's only me.
The physics is the best part of this release IMO. I always found ACC to be on rails and musting too much would result in me slipping and not able to recover. Now I can really push hard and feel confident. However, it is not perfect, there is some bouncing on some turns. No change for me regarding FFB.
Yeah its for sure different but feels nice refreshment of the game :)
One nice thing to add is that it's confirmed we're getting more liveries soon when all the liveries from this years gtwc/icgt/etc are public
yeah! But already we got a lot of new liveries in game for example 46 BMW :)
great video. Still waiting to see Kunos' promised roadmap though...if they wait much longer there won't be anything left to put on it.
yeah WHERE IS ROADMAP :D
Where is roadmap indeed.
As a AMG main, I am so happy with it currently, alot more mid corner grip.
I also agree that 1.9 requires a stiffer car, my old philosophy was usually softest front, harder rear, (13100, 10100) to now needing a stiffer chassis (15100, 111000 )
Did you try amg on other tracks like kyalami? It used to be soooo bad there
@@Jardier Not yet, mostly Monza (outlier), Zolder, Valencia.
Im still adapting my PS4 setups so trying to fully dial in what feels good as well as get used to PC BOP. (hope to race you some time!)
Got Monza feeling solid 47.8 with quite a stiff suspension, but soft rollbar. It just attacks Ascari immensely
Great and informative Video thanks for that
I love this game so much. I hope it stays active for a long time!
First time Kunos drops the new season DLC this early when usually it's midway through the real life GTWC season
I had the same feeling first time driving ferrari 296. I usually drive bmw and decided to try new ferrari. It was so similar to bmw I was shocked. Lap times were very similar to my bmw laps. I liked it very much. Also brakes, as you said and like one meme shows: brakes- sometimes maybe goood, sometimes maybe shieet.. But still I will adopt ferrari for now.
@ Jardier, if you are sitting in a chair, turn the camera autofocus off, then your hands won't confuse it, you went in and out a few times there for nothing gained for having the feature turned on.
Only done one race. 24hr of Watkins glen .
We signed up with Honda. But it was dead so had to switch to Aston 7pm before event
We worked hard on set up to try and save tyres.
We got it decent in dry. Tyres would start going of at 55mins.
On the day…… very little dry. Was damp. Needed to be on dries to be fast. But the dries died after 30 mins. With driving we got them to 45 mins max and then we was losing 19 seconds a lap .
Having to do 40/45 mins stints in a 24hr race was a pain. Haha
Full wet parts, tyres Just acted like 1.8 on full wets. Just acted same all stint
thanks for the feedback :]
no DT's but we had one DSQ for speeding in pits..... ooups it was ME !! :D
I played ACC a lot at the start of the year, then stop and move to AC for a tournament there, and then get back to ACC after the update, and I feel now the FFB is more like AC but not quite there yet. I have a G923 Wheel.
Jardier, the new grip "snap" you talked about, is because of the new electronics behavior Aris drive talked about. TC will let you power oversteer alot more but more controllable . So i guess you guys need to use a bit more TC if you dont like the new grip level.
Thanks for this video Jardier. I too had the same thoughts after trying out the new update. Obviously not to this technicality, but did feel some good changes. I haven't tried the Porsche and the Lamborghini yet, but the Ferrari feels good. I had just started driving the 488 again a few days before the update and I stand by your statement about the changes to the suspension behaviour. The brakes do feel weird at times, like they have a mind of their own, on the 296. But overall in my opinion it can be a good starter car. I'm looking forward to start driving the 992 now. I never dared to drive the 991 but after hearing how much work has gone into the newer car, it could be my next favourite. Also, don't know if it was just me, but why did you start looking redder as the video went on? Lol..
hahahah thanks mate! Sadly my settings for camera is very simple for video puproses and as "day" went further there was different light in my room resulting in that hahaha
Great video Jards - The update was needed, but again they make it hard on players with such little information on how the setups work that everyone needs communities to understand whats going on. Motec isn't a suitable option - they need to add some better setup diagnostics in the game to help players setup the car and get more out of the sim, we're not racing engineers!!
Yeah I keep saying that, I even made forum post about complexity of the setup and there is zero info in the game, you dont even know the pressures correctly in game... I hate it personally the little info. Not everyone knows where to go and search to find the info :(
overall i think the changes brought some improvement to the way the cars handle,
but on some setups the FFB feels really messed up,
the bouncing is another werid thing, I had some moments with the M4 at Spa, in "no name" (or speakers corner), when you go over the kerb on the inside , I had some unsavable bouncing spins
Glad your ffb feels normal I got a dd2 and now it's like a very expensive g27 😂😂
992 SOUND massive improvement!! Finally sounds more like a Porsche flat 6 and not the crap fog horn keyboard sound we got before
it does sound like it's screaming in 6th gear though.
Jardier uploads a new video? I click like and I am happy.
ACC gets a new dlc? I click buy and I am happy.
992 puts a big smile on my face; it's been a while
Biggest changes for me are the FF and the tyre/suspension behavior.
I drove the Audi Evo on Valencia and immediately felt a different FF, much more informative and connected to the track, but when I try it on SPA it did not feel as connected, but still better than before.
You indeed have to be more careful how you setup car for race, on suspension geometry and tyre temps, as well as drive more careful. I reduced camber and toe for race session, and while it helped me keep my tyres safe compared to other drivers, they were pretty worn on a 45 minute stint, which means I still need to lower the settings a bit more and drive more smooth (which I believe I usually do).
The new Ferrari is fantastic, it does not feel like the other Ferraris. This one feels way much better balanced and predictable.
I believe we still will need more time to understand and get familiar with ACC 1.9, for me a new sim compared to 1.8.x. Hope there will be no more magical settings that exploits physics engine holes.
i havnt had time to drive much. but i think what you are experiencing when you start sliding (like around 15:30) is bottoming the suspention out on the bumps. that corner has quite a bit of camber and since the bumpstops are not infinite anymore. when you hit the end of travel on the bumpstop, the spring rate becomes infinite, which makes you lose grip.
its really just a guess from my few hours of testing. but i think it makes sense
Yeah I noticed this for the brake of the 296..on Kyalami..sometimes I brake earlier and sometimes later compared to 488…296 the new M4 ? Sad…Concerning the update I totally agree with you concerning softness of suspensions. When I upgraded to 1.9 I first tried 488 I was used to drive, agressive setup then go setups. Conclusion is that the go setup was too much soft..for example almost impossible to enter the chicane on Watkins. Concerning the behaviour of the car entering a corner, I had difficulties to catch the apex on 1.8 when releasing the brake, the car had oversteer or understeer. Now I keep better the line and noticed the exit oversteer you talk about but it’ s linear and controllable, not brutal as before but yeah more pronounced. So yeah, great update. Just sad that so much people drive Ferrari now, she should be reserved for former 488 drivers 😅, us only deserve it 😊
id say with the cars getting launched over curbs, it has to do with the contact physics between the car and the ground, where the car model clips into the ground and makes it go boing
I would LOVE to see Brno in ACC. I really like that track.
i was playing f1 22...and i started hating simracing...i am playing 1 month this game and i am in love... and i really like the new patch
I think its a fantastic update with a lot of hard work gone into tires alone.
I got stuck driving the Ferrari at Zolder today. It was the worst. I kept sliding like crazy - especially on turn 1. And then I crashed. GRRR.
I got the 992 through an hour at spa no problem using a very slight positive toe and camber a few clicks right.
The Honda main in me is big sad but loving the changes to the feel of the cars now. Just hope the honda can survive.
As I’m on console and still on 1.8. Have you got any setups for the 1.8 version
Bernagk1 has good free tunes for 1.8
Just yesterday I had a race in the 992 where my car turned into a bouncy castle when I was doing my pitstop. It's good to know that it wasn't a one-off bug but seemingly a bigger issue that hopefully gets fixed soon. Though your car was jumping even higher than mine. :D
Is that a bug of some sort ? Having a race tomorrow in the same car, no I am bit scared this will happen to me.
@@daviddanser8011 I think so but I don't think it's too harmful and just a little weird.
Cars crash on bumps when there is a contact between bump and car frame/body.
the worst thing for me now is the last you said. Some behaviors over the curbs are too strange. The car bounces a lot and I hate it. The FFB is "more" but not better, the sliding is annoying, the new Ferrari seems a front engine car, but it is still ACC. The new tire model seems good, the temps are more natural I believe. Anyway, your attitude makes everything nice. :D
I felt the same floating car on corners
@Jardier Thinking of getting the new Simucube ActivePedals. In real life for example, braking into ABS then backing off to "threshold" braking would yield greater deceleration/braking. Does ACC behave in the same way?
yeah mate! Check Dan Suzuki was testing those pedals and he said in ACC they are amazing!
I joined your discord ❤ , keep up the good work
Your setups would be amazing, I would like to know what would be an impact in lap time from my setups to yours
Wow, I am in the video 😂
Hi Jardier,
Very Nice video.
It is always a pleasure to see your videos.
I really would like to know if you can make a short video to explain how you suggest to IMPROVE CONSISTENCY.
Overall which is according to you the best track to be able to IMPROVE CONS, over all for new beginner like me.
I have been driving on ACC only 350 hours and I have difficulties to improve from 75. Some time I reach 79, but then some time I drop to 70.
I would really like if you have good tutor or advices for that.
Thank you again for passion and for your shares.
Can think of something mate yeah, make some nice video! :)
Simucube 2 PRO user here... Force Feeback is quite a disaster... Either you got super weird recenter oscilations (on low damping) on the wheel or you got a non-responsive wreckball (if you go higher on daming values to compensate).
The worst FFB by far if you compare it to AC1, AMS2 or Rfactor 2
I downloaded and installed the addon but if I want to select the cars, a lock is display over them. Do I need to have a specific rating or conplete the campaign etc.? Also the 2023 challenge is not visible.
Just started this game and i have no idea what anyone is talking about on here, ive played Gran Turismo as far back as i remember but im on Xbox now and i feel like this game is more in depth
I spent two hours today playing with ffb settings and have started to get it somewhere how it felt with 1.8. This is after complaining like a child for nearly a week. The sudden loss of grip is clearly an issue and not something that is seen in real life so need to be dealt with in my opinion. Prior to changing my ffb it felt like the front wheels were made of wood and covered in butter. I could have cried, I love this game with 1000 hours over the year. It still isn't great but it is better and usable. Some cars though I am now up to 3 seconds a lap slower than I was. Not sure whats going on there. On the plus side the lap delta seems to be a little bit more accurate and on the downside, if you stray too close to the grass or edge of the circuit it can be massively unpredictable which is so over the top and not accurate to real life. I liked 1.8 as it encouraged tidy and accurate driving, now its just a little too slidy. For me its killed the speed buzz a little bit. Don't trash me, its just my observations.
some one said that the new sudden loss of grip is due to the new tyre flexing stuff they added. try trail braking a bit more and pump up the tyres a bit so they are not as under pressured. mid to high 26's
finally a non-live video :)
yeah sorry took a bit long break :)
the biggest update in game is still missing - that teammates can setup the pit stop in a multiplayer race for the driver. (
and don't tell me there is an extra piece of buggy software out there)
I wish we got more than just Valencia
sameeeeee
I'm a 991 purist going to 992, god I love it 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
I just started playing this game 2 days ago and i thought the sliding through fast corners was weird.
Great explanation, I appreciate your videos... my favorite car is the Aston Martin, I've been struggling with it a bit, I've tried other cars also and been feeling the same, what you say on minute 14:06, out of nowhere get massive sideways, a huge slide, It is frustrating, I feel i have to be VERY CAREFUL. I don't know if it's setup or the way the handling is now.
Make your roll bars very stiff but bias on the rear
Oh I heard aston is nice little puppy now on power from new update! Need to test it out as Im doing SRO Sprint Series with it :D
@@Jardier I'll be paying attention to your use of it 👍
I havent played acc for 2 years or something like that was iRacing all the way and came back to buy the new dlc because we need to support kunos and 13€ we are ripping off kunos.. Felt in love again... let iRacing be right noew and will be with acc from now on
Yeah I downloaded the new DLC but it does not show up in the main menu. What am I doing wrong?
I haven't tried all cars yet since the update but I feel some cares steering angle is greatly reduced so i have to nearly cross my arms to get through some chicanes, hope there are some fixes soon as some cars are just odd, maybe its just me. but also looking forward to the bop as that'll hopefully make the racing closer.
Pls can someone tell me, why haven’t I got my update on my ps4? Is it only a pc update?
The game is in a great state right now, LFM going great, many players! Imo ACC is the best simracing experience out there right now. The only problem I have is that some cars just seem way stronger than other cars, I wish there was a better balance, but we know a BoP patch is coming up.
except LFM is a third party community Run website who Ban alot of people for fun and the admins are literally insulting users in private messages.
@North Valley They don't ban people for "fun". They ban people who drive dirty, and if you continue to drive dirty you will continue to get reports resulting in actual bans.
The trak: when I watched you drive it, I was not that impressed. It looks a bit 'boring', but thats just based on the colors and foilage. But, when driving it..... IT IS GREAT :) Such a nice flow! challenging and every corner fits the rest of the track. Not like some other tracks that have a good flow, and then suddenly a chicane that breaks all flow (read: Barcelona). Yeah, Valencia is a very good track!
Yeah track has such flow that it looks boring but when you drive it you are like "woooow" :D
ACC is so different. I haven't been playing for a month as I swapped pedals. So on top of the pedals difference it feels like starting all new. No old setup work on the M4. Engine braking alone coupled with old setups generate a ridiculous weight transfer. I have the back of the car lifting by just releasing the brake. We need much stiffer setups that keep the car balance in place. Even an advanced setup doesn't mitigate this issue. I'm trying in Suzuka where I used to do the multiple "s" by pushing and releasing the accelerator, but I find it quite difficult. Need different setups.
@Jardier i would love to know what you think about my Example. You described it in the Porsche like you lost the Grip completely sometimes in the Corner. I got that aswell i think in the AMG. Especially on Watkins (same Corner as in the Video) and Monza (Lesmo1) AND at the same time the whole FFB or the Feeling of the Front goes away. I almost got a complete light Steering and almost no Feeling and FFB in that Case. It p*sses me off a bit xD I think i figured out, that going like 27.0 to 27.2 PSI makes it a bit better. It felt way better for me.
You had the same Issue in the Porsche with the light Steering? And maybe some Tips to get rid of it?
Cheers! :)
Hey mate, hmmm hard to tell cause with FFB you can change so many things including slip, so thats probably personal preference. But generally if you are sliding or without grip ffb should be lighter (same in real car). But you can add more caster to have more strong ffb naturaly :)