The bond of blood means Harry to think of it as his home, and in the first book, it says that she thinks as of Hogwarts as his home, so why does the bond of blood
I’ve watched them both for yeeears but we all know Morgan would slap them in a quiz, Jay and Ben get quite a lot of what I’d consider easy questions, wrong 😂
It will never not be funny to me that Draco Malfoy of all people nearly upended Dumbledore’s entire post-mortem plan by becoming the Master of the Elder Wand before Snape could.
I believe it was dumbledores plan, he let draco disarm him so the wand would be loyal to draco, but knowing snape would kill him making voldermort think it was snape but i may be wromg
I consider you and the Carlin bros the definitive experts on Harry Potter. I'm so glad you're watching this. Plus, I think he filmed this in one day, but split it into 7 parts, then they spliced it all together into 1 video.
Neville is much more involved with the golden trio in the first book so my theory is that the devil's snare was intended to be solved by Neviile, the flying keys by Harry, the chess board by Ron, and the potion riddle by Hermione. Also, "What was that lawnmower DOING!?" is one of my favorite lines of all time.
My Theory on Molly's platform thing was that she noticed Harry looking young and kinda lost (like, he has a trunk and an owl) but didn't want to overwhelm him by just approach him or just in the slight possibility that he was a weird muggle, she said that so, if he was a wizard, he'd approach if he needed. And I think Snape agreed to the duel club demonstration so he could trash Lockhart in public with no consequences lol
Molly's one makes sense that way... However, I don't think Snape would do that, or use Expelliarmus instead of Stupefy or something else... Unless he is really there to teach the spell. And in that case, I doubt he would want to do that with Lockhart exxept Dumbledore tells him to do it
The test on the philosophers stone were meant for the trio (and I like the theory that Neville was supposed to be also in the group, the Devil Snare test being for him). Even Harry realizes that the tests were meant for them "I reckon he had a pretty good idea we were going to try, and instead of stopping us, he taught us enough to help"
I feel like this shows the biggest difference between Harry and Voldemort: The power of trusting others. Voldemort never truly trusted other people. As Dumbledore says in HBP, Voldemort has never had a real friend, more does he want one. Harry, on the other hand, had Ron, Hermione, Neville, Ginny, the Weasley family, etc. and all of them at an important part in his story.
I'm now just watching to the end to see if it ever dawns on Morgan that the orginal video was shot all at once and released in parts and that dude didn't in fact wear the same shirt 7 weeks in a row 😂. I'm super invested and the suspense is killing me
The one plot hole with this theory I have a problem with is in Part 3 they say Dumbledore suggests the Egypt trip because he doesn't want Harry to go to the Weasleys to keep him safe from Sirius but Sirius does not escape until after the Egypt trip when he sees the news article on the Egypt trip.
😂 😂 Maybe Dumbledore knew the rat was Wormtail and think but didn't say anything because Sirius is better kept in prison so he won't interfere with his plan 😂
When I first watched Dumbledore's big plan on SuperCarlinBrothers it made me reread the books the same way as finding out Snape loves Lilly made me reread the books. To go through each book with this theory in the back of my mind was such a rewarding experience. I loved it.
I doubt that. Maybe Dumbledore realised that Hagrid had forgotten to tell Harry that, and so instead of sending another set of instructions via post, just planted Molly there, which helped his plans even more
It wasn't a theory that Hagrid was Hufflepuff. It was that Hagrid was in Slytherin. Because of his association with Tom Riddle and being believably framed about the chamber of secrets
Have been a fan of the Super Carlin Brothers and Morgan's MovieFlame channel for years. I appreciate how there is plenty of room for both of their content as they are similar, but unique in their own ways. Great idea with showing the reactions and the "A-Ha" moments.
You, Harry Potter Folklore, and SuperCarlinBrothers are my favorite Harry Potter RUclipsrs. Each of you bring so much passion behind everything you do. I enjoy watching/rewatching all the videos. Another SuperCarlinBrothers video that is fantastic is What If Harry Potter was Sorted into Slytherin. Keep up the amazing work Morgan. :)
Did you ever consider Dumbledore having his own Marauders Map? He always knew where Harry was, even returning the invisibility cloak after Harry left carelessly in the Astronomy Tower
I never thought how many resources Dumbledore has to keep him so informed ! Apparently, neither did Voldemort though. He considers Dumbledore as obnoxiously Omniscient lol, one of the reasons why he fears Dumbledore
Nothing would make me happier than to see my 2 favorite harry potter channels react. Id love to see you react to their what if theroies. The one about Harry being in Slytherin is amazing. And im a huge fan of the one if Dumbledore never put on the gaunt family ring as well.
45:50 I’d also add that Harry and Ron both tried to save Pettigrew in the 7th book when his hand was choking him. Both panicked and tried to pry his fingers off his neck, showing they really weren’t cut out for murder. But on the other hand, Voldemort was the one who directly murdered Harry’s parents. With Pettigrew, there’s at least the consolation that all of the horrible things he’s done were out of cowardice and fear. Voldemort was the one who walked in and murdered Harry’s parents, and attempted to kill him as a baby. And on top of that, Pettigrew wasn’t that threatening. Harry knew he could easily be placed in Azkaban. Voldemort is too powerful to be imprisoned. As long as he’s alive, he is a danger to Harry and all of his loved ones. Of course Harry would kill him if only in the name of not losing more loved ones. Fred, Lupin, Sirius, Tonks, his parents, Cedric, and then he’s seen Hermione and Ginny come within inches of getting hit by killing curses. Harry needed to kill Voldemort to ensure his loved ones would live. So yes, I believe that if it came to it, Voldemort was defenseless in front of Harry, Harry would outright cast “Avada Kedavra.” He knows that this is the one person he needs to kill.
I always thought after reading the books that Harry owning the Elder Wand was important because this was the only way Voldemort would actually end up dying. Voldemort is still the most powerful wizard at that time so overpowering him seems impossible even without his horcruxes. McGonagall, Kingsley and Slughorn together couldn't do it so there is no way Harry could win a normal duel against him (he probably can't even cast the death curse if he wanted to without practice). If Voldemort is not defeated in battle, he can easily go into hiding for as long as he wants to and rebuild his horcruxes or worse he and his army just overpower the fighters of Hogwarts anyway and instead of killing Harry they simply take him prisoner or give him the Dementors kiss or something (even Voldemort would probably be like "screw the prophecy" after not being able to kill Harry for the thousandth time in a row). So the Elder Wand was setup to kill Voldemort without him realizing he's not gonna win the fight which was basically the only way to kill this last piece of his soul.
@@electricheartpony Draco becoming Master of the wand was never Dumbledores intention. He wanted Snape to become the Master as stated in the conversation with Harry in book 7
@@kvm6 Ok looked it up because I was unsure myself but quoting from page 721: “If you planned your death with Snape, you meant him to end up with the Elder Wand, didn’t you?” “I admit that was my intention,” said Dumbledore, “but it did not work as I had intended, did it?” What Dumbledore really intended with Snape becoming the master was never made clear so that leaves some room for speculation
@@figmundsreud9363 Harry says it plainly to Tom when they circle each other. “That wand still isn’t working properly for you because you murdered the wrong person. Severus Snape was never the true master of the Elder Wand. He never defeated Dumbledore.” “He killed -” “Aren’t you listening? Snape never beat Dumbledore! Dumbledore’s death was planned between them! Dumbledore intended to die undefeated, the wand’s last true master! If all had gone as planned, the wand’s power would have died with him, because it had never been won from him!” Edit - and this is where "flaw in the plan" (Chapter title) comes in, because Draco disarmed Dumbledore.
Just had a thought... if the dementors did perform the kiss on Harry, would it have effected the soul of the Horcrux in Harry? Would the part of voldemort that lives in him take control or would it have killed the horcrux? Good potential fan theory!
My theory would be that the Horcrux would be destroyed. When Dementors suck a soul out, the soul never seems to come back out, which means the Dementor probably annihilated the soul within its body.
No I actually think the horcurux can still be ok since dementors only “take the soul out” but not “take the soul out and destroy it” so I think the horcurux will be left in the soul
I really like seeing SCB and MovieFlame interacting like this and I hope we'll get to see more crossovers between the two and maybe some direct interaction in a collaboration or something like that as well. Both of these channels cover a lot of the same subjects and go so in depth into all of them in interesting ways and I'd love to see what you guys would produce together.
Insane video. When you talk about the useless obstacles. You said that they designed specificly for Harry (flying keys) Ron (chess)and Hermione (poisons riddle).But what if the devil snair was for Neville. He is very good at herbology, he was with the trio when they found Fluffy , when they went to the forest with Hagrid and he meets them at the corridor room just moments before they go down to face the obstacles . He also, from a pure blood Gryffindor family. And above all, Dumbledor knew that neville could be the chosen boy from the prophecy so it make sense that he will be conected with Harry and go down with him, Ron and Hermione
A detail meny overlook is Mrs. Figg. She isn't just a character that pops up in PoA. We are told she was Harry's babysitter in book one. We don't find out until book three that Dumbledore placed her there to watch over him.
I don't think Hagrid knew he was in the plan. Dumbledore knew Hagrid's nature, maybe he told him the information knowing he would spill it one time or the other.
Thought - Did Dumbledore contact Grindlewald (who was a seer) to see into the future and know to some extent how Snape would die and make sure Snape would be able to give Harry the knowledge he would need to defeat Voldemort? Or contact Grindlewald to help him formulate the plan against Voldemort? We know Grindlewald tried to stop Voldemort to not give him the information about the wand. What else would he have done to help Dumbledore?
I’m pretty sure its canon that dumbledore left the mirror for Harry to find so he understands how it works. I believe dumbldore tells him this at the hospital wing
7:20 what if the 3rd floor corridor was the room of requirement? Dumbledor needed a way to hide the stone, but also needed the trio to be able to get there, accessibly, and that's why the corridor is never seen again. Also why it doesn't match up to any other place in the castle.
I think dumbledore intended Neville to go down the trap door too, which was why devil snare was in there and D would have known Neville was good at herbology
Morgan, you are one of my biggest sources of inspiration. I love your videos and Harry Potter equally. Honestly, by now, the two belong together for me.Thank you so much for entertaining all of us time and time again :)
I always thought that the reason Voldemort let Nagini have the kill was because he was truly fond of Snape as a subordinate and wanted to give him the honor of having a real death with substance and meaning despite being more painful. But nah it's totally because of the wand, it stings that I made it poetic and gave Voldemort too much credit 😂
I mean you might not be entirely wrong, to Voldemort using Avada Kedavra on people was the equivalent of taking out the trash. He reserved painful deaths for people he actually respected.
The dumbledore trust Harry in finding the horcrux is shown by how much Harry understands Voldemort due their similar backgrounds. Both orphans who marveled at the same things, Gringotts, Hogwarts, Room of Requirements. All things which Dumbledore didn't know or could understand how much it meant to them.
My head cannon for hagrid is dumbledore in a way enchanted him to always help harry and it sorta went into conversations like that "he shouldnt of said that" the confusion on his face as if over powered by a magical force.
In my opinion, Dumbledore didn’t tell Harry about the prophesy and the sacrificial protection because of what he tells Harry at the end of the second book, which is that who you are isn’t determined by physical attributes or abilities, but by the choices he makes. Harry knowing these things may have affected how Harry acted, and Dumbledore wanted his decisions to be unaffected.
Also if the Horcrux-piece in Harry had noticed earlier they have to die it might have tryed something to survive like it did when it broke Lucius's wand used by Volemort.
Did you ever consider that Jay may have filmed the whole thing in one sitting and then released one video per week, and that’s why he’s wearing the same shirt 😂 Amazing video I love your channel! ❤
This is what bothers me most about this video, but overall enjoyed it. Had to see if anyone else was gunna say anything about the standard practice of filming a multi-part video in one sitting
Imagine being every other kid whose mothers didn’t love them enough to someone to protect them from getting murdered by one of the strongest wizards ever.
It isn't just a matter of love, it's a matter of choice. Voldemort allows Lily to run away (as a favor to Snape) if she wants to yet she chooses to die for Harry. I don't believe Voldemort was ever so kind to anyone else.
dude, i’ve been watching both channels for so damn long, supercarlinbrothers usually make more outlandish theories but i enjoy them quite a lot so to see movie flame react to it is truly special, especially my favourite video of theirs, i probaly won’t watch this today because i’m out for the next 3 days but when i’m back, i’m watching it first thing.
So, I think it also makes sense that Dumbledore didn't pull from the Order for the DADA position in OotP because he was aware that the position was cursed and figured, given the political climate, that he nest nor risk any allies either.
Really surreal to see you react to their stuff. I'd be down to see you react to more of them. Especially their 'if Harry were in Slytherin' videos, if you haven't already Hell, maybe it could lead to a collaboration down the line? It'd be awesome to see two (three?) people so dedicated to the lore of this series come together on a project
Jay has 2 (I think, maybe 3) kids. When you have a few kids, you do laundry a lot more often. Or he just did it all on the same day and released it weekly.
The other obstacles are definitely Tailored to the trio! I was thinking that the mirror had the philosophers stone in it even when Harry found it in the classroom on Christmas. Harry didn't have the knowledge to want it so it didn't appear to him.
Killing does not always rip one’s soul appart. Dumbledore tells Snape that only him (Snape) could know if killing him (Dumbledore) would damage his (Snape) soul. And if killing always rip souls appart, Molly Weasley (and at least half of the members of the Order) had damaged souls…
The way I interpret that is that killing to defend yourself or those you care about, like the Order of the Phoenix did, keeps your soul intact because you had no other choice to do so. Murder for the sake of doing so, ending the life of someone who doesn’t threaten you, does damage your soul as it was a needless death that can negatively affect one’s psyche.
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Interesting. I don't think it comes down to the wand not caring. Remember, the wand chooses the wizard. Also, I think Snape had a plan too. When he realized that Harry was being raised like a pig for slaughter and thought he would die, he had to put his feelings aside and was even willing to risk his soul. He stopped looking at Harry as James Potter's son but instead saw Lily in him. He died saving the life of the son of the woman he ALWAYS loved.
10:10 with the context in deathly hallows, I get the feeling Dumbledore never truly let go of his manipulative and secretive ways, and he even told Snape he doesn’t like to keep his eggs in one basket, so maybe Dumbledore knows or counts on Hagrid letting important info slip when he’s talking to the trio
I think the reason Dumbledore didn't tell Harry directly or immediately about the protection at the Dursley's is the same reason he doesn't tell him about the prophecy... To prevent Voldemort from extracting this information from Harry. Additional reason might be that Dumbledore wanted Harry to see/find out for himself what the power of love can do and how strong it is
My two favorite Harry Potter channels in the same video! Nice! PS: You should watch the ultimate Harry Potter pitch meeting video as well. It's only about the movies, but Ryan sure makes some great points, and it's so funny
Could this also mean that dumbledore created the twin cores…after all he would have known that Voldemorts wand contained a Phoenix feather from Faux. Therefor It would’ve been quite simple to offer Olivander a second feather from Faux when Harry survived Voldemorts attack. Dumbledore understood Wandlore! he also knew that Olivander eventually would present the Phoenix Twin to Harry when he was 11. The Wand would choose Harry because of the part of Valdermort that lived in Harry knowing it’s twin had chosen Voldemort many years earlier….
Re: Harry maybe murdering Voldy - I don't think Harry killing Voldemort is really murder. Even though Harry hates Voldemort it's much closer to killing in self defense. If Harry doesn't get Voldemort, Voldemort is going to get him. Dumbledore doesn't know Harry's internal mindset though. In the books Harry comes off as very duty bound regarding his feud with Voldemort. He is doing it because he must and to protect others. The "Voldy kills himself" plan was in case Harry did want to kill him out of hatred.
Technically Mrs. Weasley would have been on platform 9 3/4 more than 17 times because she herself would have been on it at least fourteen times for her own schooling.
ok also, was malfoy manipulated into casting that snake in dueling club? That's a pretty advanced spell. Maybe dumbledore needed harry to know he was a parselmouth in order to be able to get into the chamber
That would be a super cool theory to look into and maybe Dumbledore knew Harry might be a parselmouth cause of the event of the first book but needed to confirm
In the GoF I think sending Harry to the quidditch world cup wasn't just to introduce more of the wizarding world to Harry but to also introduce Harry to the wizarding world on a greater scale. Dumbledore didn't know how long it would take to vanquish Voldemort. He needed to build Harry an international coalition in the event that Voldemort's influence spread globally just as it did for Grindelwald. I think that's why he fought so hard to reinstate the tournament. So that Harry could learn to trust wizards abroad even if they were from Durmstrang and Bulgaria. Harry got to witness the Bulgarian PM messing with Fudge and to see that Krum, whatever Ron thought of him, is "alright" and a good person that hates the dark arts.
I just love it when you point out Jay's shirt in each part of the video, it's really funny. In all seriousness, I really like how you reacted to their theory video.
I wonder if Dumbledore was trying to draw both Harry AND Voldemort to the philosopher's stone so that the prophecy could be fulfilled then and there, as Dumbledore knew about Lily's love protection on Harry but did not know about Voldemort's horcruxes yet (until he saw Riddle's diary the next year).
I found it interesting that Hagrid gave Harry a flute for Christmas in his first year. That flute he got was used to make the three-headed dog sleep. So was Hagrid trying to give them a clue or did Dumbledore tell him to give Harry a musical instrument?
The video about Hagrid's house they made argued he was in Slytherin. Doesn't make a TON of sense based on his personality, but makes LOADS of sense when context of Chamber of Secrets (and Deathly Hallows) is applied
I do kind of have an objection to the "not telling Harry the prophecy" bit. Dumbledore probably didn't need to tell Harry the full prophecy. He knew that Snape only overheard part of it. Harry at minimum knowing there was an important prophecy about him and he couldn't be told the full one yet would have at least kept his guard up and would have made him debate on going to the Ministry. It probably wouldn't have stopped him but at least he could have gone in with the idea that it might be a trap. At least to me, having that little nugget of knowledge would have been better than being left completely in the dark.
He already knew it was almost certainly a trap in canon in his conversation with hermione, but he went anyway because all the evidence pointed towards Sirius being kidnapped. He'd also visited St Mungos fairly recently and saw what cruciatus curse damage does to someone. He had felt that curse himself, and he loved sirius, so I doubt it would have changed anything.
Actually they had the theory that Hagrid was in slytherin. Sounds weird at first but really is the only house that makes sense considering people though he was "the heir of Slytherin" opening the chamber of secrets..
32:16 to be fair, the book (and film) suggests that Dumbledore didn’t actually have a choice. The ministry were insistent on one of their own representatives being there to spy on Dumbledore (due to Fudge's paranoia). The whole point was that Fudge had become convinced that Dumbledore wanted to take over. Sure maybe Dumbledore could have had a say in who exactly this representative was but….
If I remember correctly, Harry is distantly related to Salazar Slytherin, if Dambledore hadn't been there, giving him some important life lessons, he could have ended up differently, becoming a dark wizard. I think Aunt Petunia knew who killed her sister, and her brother-in-law, and even though she was jealous of her sister, because Lily was born with magic and she wasn't, I think she still felt affection for Lily, even though she hadn't spoken to her for years, and she this is why she decided to welcome Harry into the house, even if her husband did not approve of the decision, and I believe that Petunia knew very well the danger that Harry ran, and that the family ran by welcoming him into the house. Although it was never confirmed, I believe Petunia was a squib. Even though her parents were muggles, an ancestor had magical powers, otherwise Lily wouldn't have been a witch....This explains why Petunia felt jealous of Lily... And also the fact that he knew about the wizarding world.
You know what I think? I think that J was wearing the same shirt every time because in every cover of each movie, Harry is wearing the same shirt EVERY MOVIE.
Yesss I love this video i genuinely believe the Supercarlinbrothers could convince me of absolutely anything fo do with harry potter. I'm so excited to see your thoughts on this
32:30 To add to this point, Dumbledore knew that the DADA position was cursed by Voldemort, so he probably factored that in and didn’t want to employ someone he cared about. Although Lupin and Moody are exceptions, but maybe he just was confident they were powerful enough wizards to handle themselves and figured the lessons they’d teach Harry and the class would be worth it even if it’s only for a year.
This is content now? Just essentially stitching a super popular video and just rephrasing everything they say after they say it as if it’s your own thoughts? And pretending to blind react to this, even though you ask leading questions or allude to something that happens to perfectly and instantly coincide with something they mention the next time their video picks back up.
For the thought about Harry not knowing what the killing curse was, even if "Moody" didn't teach him what it was, Harry would have seen Wormtail use it on Cedric which was the curse that had killed him.
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Why do I find it so surreal seeing Morgan react to this series? Seeing him react to the Carlin Brothers’ videos feels like a fever dream to me
I called it 2 days ago :D
two worlds collide 😩
Same here!
SAME!
Right?
It's almost scary how Morgan keeps finishing J's thoughts. They absolutely should do a collab, they would make the best theories
M: We finish each others…
J: Sandwiches!
M: That’s what I was gonna say
@@KimDa-Eun-tt6oiI love that saying-wait how did u think that up?😂😂
The bond of blood means Harry to think of it as his home, and in the first book, it says that she thinks as of Hogwarts as his home, so why does the bond of blood
@@Hudsplaythrough because it isn't actually home. It's his school.
@@duozhong6203 it's from arrested development. And a couple other movies and shows
Me and my husband always say we'd love to see Morgan and The Carlin brothers do a quiz together. J vs Ben vs Morgan
I would love that
Oh yes....
Yes please 🙏 😍 🙌
Me, too! That would be awesome!
I’ve watched them both for yeeears but we all know Morgan would slap them in a quiz, Jay and Ben get quite a lot of what I’d consider easy questions, wrong 😂
It will never not be funny to me that Draco Malfoy of all people nearly upended Dumbledore’s entire post-mortem plan by becoming the Master of the Elder Wand before Snape could.
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That's not even the end of it. According to one SCB 'What if', Draco could have actually been the final boss.
Imagine Voldy in the Malfoy’s house telling Lucius that Draco must die. Ouch!
I believe it was dumbledores plan, he let draco disarm him so the wand would be loyal to draco, but knowing snape would kill him making voldermort think it was snape but i may be wromg
I consider you and the Carlin bros the definitive experts on Harry Potter. I'm so glad you're watching this. Plus, I think he filmed this in one day, but split it into 7 parts, then they spliced it all together into 1 video.
Makes sense.
In the What if Harry Was In Slytherin video, he said that he put the same shirt on on purpose, so maybe he did it on purpose too lol.
@@Xeyxey0he says he did in the OG video. He said it was an accident the first two times and then he's like but this time I added a jacket for 4
Definitely! No one has the same appreciation for the series as SCB and Morgan
Yup, I remember when these first came out and I am pretty sure J said they filmed this all in the same day.
Neville is much more involved with the golden trio in the first book so my theory is that the devil's snare was intended to be solved by Neviile, the flying keys by Harry, the chess board by Ron, and the potion riddle by Hermione.
Also, "What was that lawnmower DOING!?" is one of my favorite lines of all time.
In the original video they say exactly that about Neville, so you'd be correct with that.
i never thought about that
I want these two channels to collab immediately
COLLAB
@@Winter_bear_Grxnt_Fam hhhhhhheeeeeeyyyy brother
Please morgan
Indeed
EXACTLY ❤❤
My Theory on Molly's platform thing was that she noticed Harry looking young and kinda lost (like, he has a trunk and an owl) but didn't want to overwhelm him by just approach him or just in the slight possibility that he was a weird muggle, she said that so, if he was a wizard, he'd approach if he needed.
And I think Snape agreed to the duel club demonstration so he could trash Lockhart in public with no consequences lol
Molly's one makes sense that way...
However, I don't think Snape would do that, or use Expelliarmus instead of Stupefy or something else... Unless he is really there to teach the spell. And in that case, I doubt he would want to do that with Lockhart exxept Dumbledore tells him to do it
yea it was a coincidence and harry met malfoy before weasleys in madam malkins shop they could have been freinds
@@ambiverterI think it’s just Lockhart is so bad lol it’s like Mike Tyson punching some bum on the street lol
One of my favorite Harry Potter channels reacting to one of my favorite Harry Potter channels? Yes please!
I was going to say just this ❤
Right!!!!
@@Winter_bear_Grxnt_Fam too*
Same!
Yes yes yes!
if Newt Scamander can fit a mini safari in his briefcase, Dumbledore can can create a massive underground complex - on the 3rd floor.
Was it inside his briefcase though? I always thought that it was only a portal.
Well obviously
@@thomas261989undetectable extension charm.
Newt also has enough room for a tank with a Kelpie in his house.
Hahahahqhq😅
On the subject of Dumbledore, let's raise our wands for Michael Gambon 🪄
The world will will never be the same without him 😔
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The test on the philosophers stone were meant for the trio (and I like the theory that Neville was supposed to be also in the group, the Devil Snare test being for him).
Even Harry realizes that the tests were meant for them "I reckon he had a pretty good idea we were going to try, and instead of stopping us, he taught us enough to help"
I feel like this shows the biggest difference between Harry and Voldemort: The power of trusting others.
Voldemort never truly trusted other people. As Dumbledore says in HBP, Voldemort has never had a real friend, more does he want one.
Harry, on the other hand, had Ron, Hermione, Neville, Ginny, the Weasley family, etc. and all of them at an important part in his story.
i know they’re superrr long videos but i’d love to see your thoughts on the “If Harry Was In Slytherin” series. it’s phenomenal!
YES PLEASE
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Yes
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Legitimately the only fanfic i genuinely enjoy, also they are so good they even made me like Draco,sooo...YES
Jays sons have the best bed time story teller ever. The voices, the excitement, and everything.
My two favorite Harry Potter RUclipsrs in one video, the og reacting to my second fave channel this is amazing and I am here for it
THIS
I'm now just watching to the end to see if it ever dawns on Morgan that the orginal video was shot all at once and released in parts and that dude didn't in fact wear the same shirt 7 weeks in a row 😂. I'm super invested and the suspense is killing me
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The one plot hole with this theory I have a problem with is in Part 3 they say Dumbledore suggests the Egypt trip because he doesn't want Harry to go to the Weasleys to keep him safe from Sirius but Sirius does not escape until after the Egypt trip when he sees the news article on the Egypt trip.
Eh, not every theory can be perfect
Thank you I was thinking the same thing!
given dumbledore can see harry in the invisibility cloak i just think dumbledore has a lot more forsight then other wizards
@@ChrissaTodd but the Egypt trip literally caused Sirius to escape so not only was it before, it serves as the catalyst.
😂 😂 Maybe Dumbledore knew the rat was Wormtail and think but didn't say anything because Sirius is better kept in prison so he won't interfere with his plan 😂
When I first watched Dumbledore's big plan on SuperCarlinBrothers it made me reread the books the same way as finding out Snape loves Lilly made me reread the books. To go through each book with this theory in the back of my mind was such a rewarding experience. I loved it.
You've been my favorite youtuber for the better part of 3 years and I'm so proud of your progress in life and in your channel. Keep up the hard work.
1. Please join them for one of their quizzes
2. How often do you do your laundry???
Once every 3 weeks lol
5:43. So that also means Dumbledore must have told Hagrid to make sure Harry does not know how to get on to the platform.
I doubt that. Maybe Dumbledore realised that Hagrid had forgotten to tell Harry that, and so instead of sending another set of instructions via post, just planted Molly there, which helped his plans even more
It wasn't a theory that Hagrid was Hufflepuff. It was that Hagrid was in Slytherin. Because of his association with Tom Riddle and being believably framed about the chamber of secrets
I LOVE both of your channels so much. This is an AMAZING pseudo-crossover.
Have been a fan of the Super Carlin Brothers and Morgan's MovieFlame channel for years. I appreciate how there is plenty of room for both of their content as they are similar, but unique in their own ways. Great idea with showing the reactions and the "A-Ha" moments.
You, Harry Potter Folklore, and SuperCarlinBrothers are my favorite Harry Potter RUclipsrs.
Each of you bring so much passion behind everything you do. I enjoy watching/rewatching all the videos. Another SuperCarlinBrothers video that is fantastic is What If Harry Potter was Sorted into Slytherin.
Keep up the amazing work Morgan. :)
Harry Potter folklore is a nerd
@@XjebinLol, who cares?
Did you ever consider Dumbledore having his own Marauders Map? He always knew where Harry was, even returning the invisibility cloak after Harry left carelessly in the Astronomy Tower
The cloak was left at Harry's bed. And he has House Elves, Portraits and Fawkes to keep lookout.
I never thought how many resources Dumbledore has to keep him so informed !
Apparently, neither did Voldemort though. He considers Dumbledore as obnoxiously Omniscient lol, one of the reasons why he fears Dumbledore
Nothing would make me happier than to see my 2 favorite harry potter channels react. Id love to see you react to their what if theroies. The one about Harry being in Slytherin is amazing. And im a huge fan of the one if Dumbledore never put on the gaunt family ring as well.
45:50 I’d also add that Harry and Ron both tried to save Pettigrew in the 7th book when his hand was choking him. Both panicked and tried to pry his fingers off his neck, showing they really weren’t cut out for murder.
But on the other hand, Voldemort was the one who directly murdered Harry’s parents. With Pettigrew, there’s at least the consolation that all of the horrible things he’s done were out of cowardice and fear. Voldemort was the one who walked in and murdered Harry’s parents, and attempted to kill him as a baby. And on top of that, Pettigrew wasn’t that threatening. Harry knew he could easily be placed in Azkaban. Voldemort is too powerful to be imprisoned. As long as he’s alive, he is a danger to Harry and all of his loved ones. Of course Harry would kill him if only in the name of not losing more loved ones. Fred, Lupin, Sirius, Tonks, his parents, Cedric, and then he’s seen Hermione and Ginny come within inches of getting hit by killing curses. Harry needed to kill Voldemort to ensure his loved ones would live.
So yes, I believe that if it came to it, Voldemort was defenseless in front of Harry, Harry would outright cast “Avada Kedavra.” He knows that this is the one person he needs to kill.
This was the dream I didn’t know I needed omg my 2 fave Harry Potter channels on a screen!! I would love a collaboration with these channels! ❤🎉
I always thought after reading the books that Harry owning the Elder Wand was important because this was the only way Voldemort would actually end up dying. Voldemort is still the most powerful wizard at that time so overpowering him seems impossible even without his horcruxes. McGonagall, Kingsley and Slughorn together couldn't do it so there is no way Harry could win a normal duel against him (he probably can't even cast the death curse if he wanted to without practice).
If Voldemort is not defeated in battle, he can easily go into hiding for as long as he wants to and rebuild his horcruxes or worse he and his army just overpower the fighters of Hogwarts anyway and instead of killing Harry they simply take him prisoner or give him the Dementors kiss or something (even Voldemort would probably be like "screw the prophecy" after not being able to kill Harry for the thousandth time in a row).
So the Elder Wand was setup to kill Voldemort without him realizing he's not gonna win the fight which was basically the only way to kill this last piece of his soul.
That relies on Harry taking Draco's wand. So, not really part of Dumbledore's plan.
@@electricheartpony Draco becoming Master of the wand was never Dumbledores intention. He wanted Snape to become the Master as stated in the conversation with Harry in book 7
@@figmundsreud9363he didn't want Snape to become Master. The book says that he wanted Wand's power to die because the death was planned.
@@kvm6 Ok looked it up because I was unsure myself but quoting from page 721: “If you planned your death with Snape, you meant him to end
up with the Elder Wand, didn’t you?”
“I admit that was my intention,” said Dumbledore, “but it did
not work as I had intended, did it?”
What Dumbledore really intended with Snape becoming the master was never made clear so that leaves some room for speculation
@@figmundsreud9363 Harry says it plainly to Tom when they circle each other.
“That wand still isn’t working properly for you because you murdered the wrong person. Severus Snape was never the true master of the Elder Wand. He never defeated Dumbledore.”
“He killed -”
“Aren’t you listening? Snape never beat Dumbledore! Dumbledore’s death was planned between them! Dumbledore intended to die undefeated, the wand’s last true master! If all had gone as planned, the wand’s power would have died with him, because it had never
been won from him!”
Edit - and this is where "flaw in the plan" (Chapter title) comes in, because Draco disarmed Dumbledore.
Just had a thought... if the dementors did perform the kiss on Harry, would it have effected the soul of the Horcrux in Harry? Would the part of voldemort that lives in him take control or would it have killed the horcrux? Good potential fan theory!
i honestly don't know but maybe we can ask scb the do a "what if" on that
My theory would be that the Horcrux would be destroyed. When Dementors suck a soul out, the soul never seems to come back out, which means the Dementor probably annihilated the soul within its body.
I like to think, Voldy would possess the said dementor .
No I actually think the horcurux can still be ok since dementors only “take the soul out” but not “take the soul out and destroy it” so I think the horcurux will be left in the soul
J and Ben have a brilliant video about this.
I really like seeing SCB and MovieFlame interacting like this and I hope we'll get to see more crossovers between the two and maybe some direct interaction in a collaboration or something like that as well.
Both of these channels cover a lot of the same subjects and go so in depth into all of them in interesting ways and I'd love to see what you guys would produce together.
Insane video. When you talk about the useless obstacles. You said that they designed specificly for Harry (flying keys) Ron (chess)and Hermione (poisons riddle).But what if the devil snair was for Neville. He is very good at herbology, he was with the trio when they found Fluffy , when they went to the forest with Hagrid and he meets them at the corridor room just moments before they go down to face the obstacles . He also, from a pure blood Gryffindor family. And above all, Dumbledor knew that neville could be the chosen boy from the prophecy so it make sense that he will be conected with Harry and go down with him, Ron and Hermione
A detail meny overlook is Mrs. Figg. She isn't just a character that pops up in PoA. We are told she was Harry's babysitter in book one. We don't find out until book three that Dumbledore placed her there to watch over him.
Book 5 actually I think?????
wow! my two favorite harry potter youtubers!! keep up the amazing work morgan ❤❤❤
Seeing Morgan reacting to the Super Carlin Brothers is so surreal, cuz I love their stuff as well. Their competitions are so fun to watch.
hell yea!
I don't think Hagrid knew he was in the plan. Dumbledore knew Hagrid's nature, maybe he told him the information knowing he would spill it one time or the other.
Thought - Did Dumbledore contact Grindlewald (who was a seer) to see into the future and know to some extent how Snape would die and make sure Snape would be able to give Harry the knowledge he would need to defeat Voldemort? Or contact Grindlewald to help him formulate the plan against Voldemort? We know Grindlewald tried to stop Voldemort to not give him the information about the wand. What else would he have done to help Dumbledore?
I’m pretty sure its canon that dumbledore left the mirror for Harry to find so he understands how it works. I believe dumbldore tells him this at the hospital wing
7:20 what if the 3rd floor corridor was the room of requirement? Dumbledor needed a way to hide the stone, but also needed the trio to be able to get there, accessibly, and that's why the corridor is never seen again. Also why it doesn't match up to any other place in the castle.
I think dumbledore intended Neville to go down the trap door too, which was why devil snare was in there and D would have known Neville was good at herbology
Morgan, you are one of my biggest sources of inspiration. I love your videos and Harry Potter equally. Honestly, by now, the two belong together for me.Thank you so much for entertaining all of us time and time again :)
Now he needs to watch the WHAT IF Harry was in Slytherin series
I always thought that the reason Voldemort let Nagini have the kill was because he was truly fond of Snape as a subordinate and wanted to give him the honor of having a real death with substance and meaning despite being more painful. But nah it's totally because of the wand, it stings that I made it poetic and gave Voldemort too much credit 😂
I mean you might not be entirely wrong, to Voldemort using Avada Kedavra on people was the equivalent of taking out the trash. He reserved painful deaths for people he actually respected.
Nagini was a woman so if she killed Snape in a universe were Snape WAS the owner of the Edler Wand would she become the master of the Elder Wand?
The dumbledore trust Harry in finding the horcrux is shown by how much Harry understands Voldemort due their similar backgrounds. Both orphans who marveled at the same things, Gringotts, Hogwarts, Room of Requirements. All things which Dumbledore didn't know or could understand how much it meant to them.
My head cannon for hagrid is dumbledore in a way enchanted him to always help harry and it sorta went into conversations like that "he shouldnt of said that" the confusion on his face as if over powered by a magical force.
In my opinion, Dumbledore didn’t tell Harry about the prophesy and the sacrificial protection because of what he tells Harry at the end of the second book, which is that who you are isn’t determined by physical attributes or abilities, but by the choices he makes. Harry knowing these things may have affected how Harry acted, and Dumbledore wanted his decisions to be unaffected.
Also if the Horcrux-piece in Harry had noticed earlier they have to die it might have tryed something to survive like it did when it broke Lucius's wand used by Volemort.
My ears: Dumbledore
Noone:
Literally Noone:
RUclips Captions:
dumb Lord
We NEED an IRL collab with them!
Did you ever consider that Jay may have filmed the whole thing in one sitting and then released one video per week, and that’s why he’s wearing the same shirt 😂 Amazing video I love your channel! ❤
This is what bothers me most about this video, but overall enjoyed it. Had to see if anyone else was gunna say anything about the standard practice of filming a multi-part video in one sitting
Imagine being every other kid whose mothers didn’t love them enough to someone to protect them from getting murdered by one of the strongest wizards ever.
It isn't just a matter of love, it's a matter of choice. Voldemort allows Lily to run away (as a favor to Snape) if she wants to yet she chooses to die for Harry. I don't believe Voldemort was ever so kind to anyone else.
dude, i’ve been watching both channels for so damn long, supercarlinbrothers usually make more outlandish theories but i enjoy them quite a lot so to see movie flame react to it is truly special, especially my favourite video of theirs, i probaly won’t watch this today because i’m out for the next 3 days but when i’m back, i’m watching it first thing.
So, I think it also makes sense that Dumbledore didn't pull from the Order for the DADA position in OotP because he was aware that the position was cursed and figured, given the political climate, that he nest nor risk any allies either.
Really surreal to see you react to their stuff. I'd be down to see you react to more of them. Especially their 'if Harry were in Slytherin' videos, if you haven't already
Hell, maybe it could lead to a collaboration down the line? It'd be awesome to see two (three?) people so dedicated to the lore of this series come together on a project
Jay has 2 (I think, maybe 3) kids. When you have a few kids, you do laundry a lot more often. Or he just did it all on the same day and released it weekly.
The other obstacles are definitely Tailored to the trio! I was thinking that the mirror had the philosophers stone in it even when Harry found it in the classroom on Christmas. Harry didn't have the knowledge to want it so it didn't appear to him.
Killing does not always rip one’s soul appart. Dumbledore tells Snape that only him (Snape) could know if killing him (Dumbledore) would damage his (Snape) soul. And if killing always rip souls appart, Molly Weasley (and at least half of the members of the Order) had damaged souls…
The way I interpret that is that killing to defend yourself or those you care about, like the Order of the Phoenix did, keeps your soul intact because you had no other choice to do so. Murder for the sake of doing so, ending the life of someone who doesn’t threaten you, does damage your soul as it was a needless death that can negatively affect one’s psyche.
Make this Riordanverse video:
What The Characters’ Bogarts Are-
Ex: Percy - Alecto
Annabeth- Arachne
Grover- Polyphemus
Sally- Gabe
Luke- May Castellan
Clarisse- Ares
Tyson- Sphinx
Thalia- The Sun Chariot
Nico- Cupid
Zoe- Atlas
The Hunters of Artemis- Orion
Chris Rodriguez- King Minos
Silena- Beckendorf dead
The Gods- Typhon
Jason- A Brick
Leo- Hera (Tia Callida)
Piper- Jason & Leo dead
Frank- Thanatos
Hazel- Gaia
Reyna- The Ramirez-Arellano Ancestors
Hylla- Julian Ramirez-Arellano
Interesting. I don't think it comes down to the wand not caring. Remember, the wand chooses the wizard. Also, I think Snape had a plan too. When he realized that Harry was being raised like a pig for slaughter and thought he would die, he had to put his feelings aside and was even willing to risk his soul. He stopped looking at Harry as James Potter's son but instead saw Lily in him. He died saving the life of the son of the woman he ALWAYS loved.
10:10 with the context in deathly hallows, I get the feeling Dumbledore never truly let go of his manipulative and secretive ways, and he even told Snape he doesn’t like to keep his eggs in one basket, so maybe Dumbledore knows or counts on Hagrid letting important info slip when he’s talking to the trio
Love both you and SCB. Great content. This is fun to have on in the background. Kind of like your difference between book and movie series.
I think the reason Dumbledore didn't tell Harry directly or immediately about the protection at the Dursley's is the same reason he doesn't tell him about the prophecy... To prevent Voldemort from extracting this information from Harry. Additional reason might be that Dumbledore wanted Harry to see/find out for himself what the power of love can do and how strong it is
My two favorite Harry Potter channels in the same video! Nice!
PS: You should watch the ultimate Harry Potter pitch meeting video as well. It's only about the movies, but Ryan sure makes some great points, and it's so funny
Could this also mean that dumbledore created the twin cores…after all he would have known that Voldemorts wand contained a Phoenix feather from Faux. Therefor It would’ve been quite simple to offer Olivander a second feather from Faux when Harry survived Voldemorts attack. Dumbledore understood Wandlore! he also knew that Olivander eventually would present the Phoenix Twin to Harry when he was 11. The Wand would choose Harry because of the part of Valdermort that lived in Harry knowing it’s twin had chosen Voldemort many years earlier….
Dumbledore’s Big Plan might be my favorite SuperCarlinBrothers theory.
No if harry was in slytherin and i am a hufflepuff
that series has just come up in the side bar next to the comments
Dumbledore didn't tell Harry to form the DA. he told Ron and Hermine to do so, if u remember they told Harry to form the DA.
Re: Harry maybe murdering Voldy - I don't think Harry killing Voldemort is really murder. Even though Harry hates Voldemort it's much closer to killing in self defense. If Harry doesn't get Voldemort, Voldemort is going to get him. Dumbledore doesn't know Harry's internal mindset though. In the books Harry comes off as very duty bound regarding his feud with Voldemort. He is doing it because he must and to protect others. The "Voldy kills himself" plan was in case Harry did want to kill him out of hatred.
My two favorite RUclipsrs coming together!
One day they should do a quiz together and now Morgan should react to both what if Harry was in Slytherin and what if Neville was in Gryffindor
That’ll be brilliant but do you mean “What if Neville was the chosen one” video since Neville is always in Gryffindor
Technically Mrs. Weasley would have been on platform 9 3/4 more than 17 times because she herself would have been on it at least fourteen times for her own schooling.
ok also, was malfoy manipulated into casting that snake in dueling club? That's a pretty advanced spell. Maybe dumbledore needed harry to know he was a parselmouth in order to be able to get into the chamber
That would be a super cool theory to look into and maybe Dumbledore knew Harry might be a parselmouth cause of the event of the first book but needed to confirm
In the GoF I think sending Harry to the quidditch world cup wasn't just to introduce more of the wizarding world to Harry but to also introduce Harry to the wizarding world on a greater scale. Dumbledore didn't know how long it would take to vanquish Voldemort. He needed to build Harry an international coalition in the event that Voldemort's influence spread globally just as it did for Grindelwald. I think that's why he fought so hard to reinstate the tournament. So that Harry could learn to trust wizards abroad even if they were from Durmstrang and Bulgaria. Harry got to witness the Bulgarian PM messing with Fudge and to see that Krum, whatever Ron thought of him, is "alright" and a good person that hates the dark arts.
A collab between the Super Carlin Bros and MovieFlame would be insane. Great reaction by the way
Duude i legit used to put on yours and carlins videos when i would sleep, especially this 2 hour Dumbledore one, so this is such a good video for me 😅
I absolutely love this! You should definitely react to their “What if Harry Potter was in Slytherin”! 💕
I just love it when you point out Jay's shirt in each part of the video, it's really funny.
In all seriousness, I really like how you reacted to their theory video.
the crossover I was waiting for
Two of my favourite Harry Potter RUclipsr’s
I wonder if Dumbledore was trying to draw both Harry AND Voldemort to the philosopher's stone so that the prophecy could be fulfilled then and there, as Dumbledore knew about Lily's love protection on Harry but did not know about Voldemort's horcruxes yet (until he saw Riddle's diary the next year).
I found it interesting that Hagrid gave Harry a flute for Christmas in his first year. That flute he got was used to make the three-headed dog sleep. So was Hagrid trying to give them a clue or did Dumbledore tell him to give Harry a musical instrument?
The video about Hagrid's house they made argued he was in Slytherin. Doesn't make a TON of sense based on his personality, but makes LOADS of sense when context of Chamber of Secrets (and Deathly Hallows) is applied
I do kind of have an objection to the "not telling Harry the prophecy" bit. Dumbledore probably didn't need to tell Harry the full prophecy. He knew that Snape only overheard part of it. Harry at minimum knowing there was an important prophecy about him and he couldn't be told the full one yet would have at least kept his guard up and would have made him debate on going to the Ministry. It probably wouldn't have stopped him but at least he could have gone in with the idea that it might be a trap. At least to me, having that little nugget of knowledge would have been better than being left completely in the dark.
He already knew it was almost certainly a trap in canon in his conversation with hermione, but he went anyway because all the evidence pointed towards Sirius being kidnapped. He'd also visited St Mungos fairly recently and saw what cruciatus curse damage does to someone. He had felt that curse himself, and he loved sirius, so I doubt it would have changed anything.
So is Nevilles soul torn because he killed Nagini who we know was/is a person?
The way Jay wears the same shirt is like how Harry wears the same shirt in every move at one point. Conspiracy!
Actually they had the theory that Hagrid was in slytherin. Sounds weird at first but really is the only house that makes sense considering people though he was "the heir of Slytherin" opening the chamber of secrets..
32:16 to be fair, the book (and film) suggests that Dumbledore didn’t actually have a choice. The ministry were insistent on one of their own representatives being there to spy on Dumbledore (due to Fudge's paranoia). The whole point was that Fudge had become convinced that Dumbledore wanted to take over. Sure maybe Dumbledore could have had a say in who exactly this representative was but….
Fantastic reaction I love this breakdown I really hope someday you and the supercarlinbrothers can do a collab that would be incredible 😊❤
This has become my new comfort video 😭 idk how many times I've watched it now haha
I have a really hard time imagining Severus Snape willingly letting Harry beat him at anything let alone a duel.
He would, if Dumbledore said the magic words.... "he has her eyes"
If I remember correctly, Harry is distantly related to Salazar Slytherin, if Dambledore hadn't been there, giving him some important life lessons, he could have ended up differently, becoming a dark wizard. I think Aunt Petunia knew who killed her sister, and her brother-in-law, and even though she was jealous of her sister, because Lily was born with magic and she wasn't, I think she still felt affection for Lily, even though she hadn't spoken to her for years, and she this is why she decided to welcome Harry into the house, even if her husband did not approve of the decision, and I believe that Petunia knew very well the danger that Harry ran, and that the family ran by welcoming him into the house. Although it was never confirmed, I believe Petunia was a squib. Even though her parents were muggles, an ancestor had magical powers, otherwise Lily wouldn't have been a witch....This explains why Petunia felt jealous of Lily... And also the fact that he knew about the wizarding world.
You two should do a collaboration together in the future.
You know what I think? I think that J was wearing the same shirt every time because in every cover of each movie, Harry is wearing the same shirt EVERY MOVIE.
Yesss I love this video i genuinely believe the Supercarlinbrothers could convince me of absolutely anything fo do with harry potter. I'm so excited to see your thoughts on this
That skit with why Dumbledore didn't tell harry about the proficiency was so good 😂❤
I actually love the Dumbledore’s big plan theory
Yeah some parts don’t make sense, but the majority and main points do
Holy fawkes when I was reading the title I was confused then was like no way this is awesome I love both channels.
Maybe they change the platform every couple of years so maybe it wasnt always 93/4
No. It has always been 9 3/4.
In canon it has always been 9 3/4 since the hogwarts express was created.
That is addressed in the actual supercarlinbros video! They checked, and it’s always been the same platform
32:30 To add to this point, Dumbledore knew that the DADA position was cursed by Voldemort, so he probably factored that in and didn’t want to employ someone he cared about. Although Lupin and Moody are exceptions, but maybe he just was confident they were powerful enough wizards to handle themselves and figured the lessons they’d teach Harry and the class would be worth it even if it’s only for a year.
This is content now? Just essentially stitching a super popular video and just rephrasing everything they say after they say it as if it’s your own thoughts?
And pretending to blind react to this, even though you ask leading questions or allude to something that happens to perfectly and instantly coincide with something they mention the next time their video picks back up.
Right? He never has a thought of his own. And people are gobbling it up.
For the thought about Harry not knowing what the killing curse was, even if "Moody" didn't teach him what it was, Harry would have seen Wormtail use it on Cedric which was the curse that had killed him.