Reacting to 30 Harry Potter PLOT HOLES

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  • @konqu3rthe1st80
    @konqu3rthe1st80 9 месяцев назад +1698

    To really answer the flaw of the 7 potters plot hole you have to remember that Dumbledore told Snape he had to give the Death Eaters the real plan... This means no matter what the plan was it would get interrupted.

    • @dannylagangonzalez6832
      @dannylagangonzalez6832 9 месяцев назад +190

      OHHH GOOD ANSWER. Plus, that would mean that if the death eaters attacked them on muggle transport, it would cause a massive secrecy breach, so he couldn't possibly make mundungus suggest that plan to the order.
      So not only was Snape keeping up Voldemort's trust in him, he was also protecting the Statute of Secrecy.

    • @abelmeszlenyi77
      @abelmeszlenyi77 9 месяцев назад +16

      Yeah I was thinking the same I thought he was konna say this part

    • @bendowson3124
      @bendowson3124 9 месяцев назад +44

      Snape gave the date, but not the 7 potters plan. Snape caused Mundungus to think it was his idea in order to maintain Voldemort's trust.

    • @mortarteam11
      @mortarteam11 9 месяцев назад +75

      But what everybody is missing is that Voldemort wanted to kill Harry himself, so by turning 6 people into Harry, they essentially protected them from killing curses from every Death Eater, because they would not risk hitting the real Harry by accident. The fact that they killed Moody after Mundungus disapparated was because they no longer risked killing actual Harry, if the curse would miss.

    • @koshnaranek4442
      @koshnaranek4442 9 месяцев назад +18

      @mortarteam11 Actually, I think that Voldemort was the one that chased Moody, so there is no conflict with the order of who was to kill Harry.

  • @Lil_Valor
    @Lil_Valor 5 месяцев назад +139

    7:00
    Why would Sirius go through all the trouble concocting quite a difficult potion to use when he literally has the ability to disguise himself.
    Choosing to just turn into a dog instead of all those extra steps is something he’d absolutely do

    • @S-Mania
      @S-Mania 3 месяца назад +20

      And it protects against Dementors as they can't sense animals, which I doubt even polyjuice potion can do as effectively. I don't think Sirius would take that risk, even if there were no Dementors around after POA. Especially since his dog form can slip past them unnoticed 100% of the time.

    • @k.k.7797
      @k.k.7797 Месяц назад +1

      not to mention, it’s known to be extremely unpleasant to drink, and he’d need the hair of someone who was part of the wizarding world but also wouldn’t be noticed in the event there were two of them. Obtaining all the ingredients, and the hair, and drinking it often enough to maintain the disguise all while keeping up a facade as not to get caught, makes much less practical sense then just turning into an animal

  • @chloekhamxox
    @chloekhamxox 3 месяца назад +103

    26:43 the reason why the portkey in the goblet of firer teleports Harry “back to hogwarts” is because the Portkey was initially supposed to teleport you back to the start of the maze to claim the win, the portkey was tempered with and sent him to the graveyard instead, but resumed to it’s “original” function to bring him to the start of the maze.

    • @14akamaru
      @14akamaru Месяц назад +8

      Not just that, but we have examples of both time-activated and touch-activated Portkeys, at least in the books. The Portkey Dumbledore made from the fragment of the statue at the Ministry of Magic after the Battle of the Department of Mysteries sent Harry back when he touched it. But during the Battle of Seven Potters, the Portkeys at the safe houses were timed, as it was shown that some went to the Burrow before their users could get to them.

    • @jon6061
      @jon6061 24 дня назад +1

      @@14akamaru I think the time-activated ones are meant for multiple people (as it would be to finicky to have every user of a portkey to touch it exactly at the same time) like the portkey for the world cup or the portkeys for the order members in book seven.

  • @Xeyxey0
    @Xeyxey0 9 месяцев назад +357

    Actually, the one about the death eaters' wands is a really good point. Bellatrix's wand is specifically used as identification, unless we're meant to believe she re-registered her replacement wand at Gringotts following her escape? When she was a fugitive?
    I don't think Charlie's wand was one that chose him, either, it probably belonged to one of Molly's brothers, but to Ron it was "Charlie's old wand".

    • @garcardosotan6172
      @garcardosotan6172 9 месяцев назад +11

      We don't actually know who every deatheater is by job, right? If one is in magical law enforcement, they could have simply, hidden the wands?

    • @joshuagray8140
      @joshuagray8140 8 месяцев назад +35

      If I remember right. Ollivander said in Deeathly Hallows (book) that he was forced to make a new wand for Bellatrix, as well as the other Deatheaters.

    • @kennyearthling7965
      @kennyearthling7965 8 месяцев назад +3

      I think she (or her family) had extra wands, she was wealthy

    • @Bloodyman213
      @Bloodyman213 8 месяцев назад +4

      I dont think the wands were snapped in the books, i think they disarmed them and kept their wands in Azkaban or at the ministry, which then a spy at the ministry could have just taken them and left fakes in their place.

    • @leto-nl
      @leto-nl 8 месяцев назад +2

      Yes but I assume you refer to the identification In deadly hollows at gringots when in fact Hermoine was Bellatrix and at that time Voldemort allready had the ministry and then it would have been very easy to have the wand registered

  • @mrsentimental1995
    @mrsentimental1995 9 месяцев назад +863

    For the polyjuice potion voice, it's easy, from a film perspective didn't do that because they wanted the audience to remember it's a disguise. As for Barty as Mad-Eye, he clearly disguised his voice willingly to maintain his cover. It doesn't need overthinking.

    • @Verezen
      @Verezen 9 месяцев назад +101

      The vice change is just a plot device, it was used to prevent viewers from getting confused. With Barty as Mad-Eye, the story needed him to be secret, and you could also see it as the story being from Harry’s perspective and since he didn’t know Bsrty was Moody, we wouldn’t be able to tell either.

    • @v.kinga25
      @v.kinga25 9 месяцев назад +31

      I think they could have kept barty's voice because we haven't heard his or mad-eye's voice before

    • @mrsentimental1995
      @mrsentimental1995 9 месяцев назад +7

      @@Verezen exactly

    • @NIH1966
      @NIH1966 9 месяцев назад +39

      In the movie, they try to address this by showing Barty as Mad-Eye doing an impression of Hagrid at the end. I think they wanted to show that Barty was good at voices.

    • @leewhite2195
      @leewhite2195 9 месяцев назад +23

      ​@@v.kinga25Dumbledore for one knows Moody's real voice though.

  • @brittneybossidy2877
    @brittneybossidy2877 7 месяцев назад +191

    To answer the Alohemora question, in the sixth book when Tonks is walking back up to the castle with Harry after finding him after being attacked by Draco, Harry tried using alohomora but Tonks explained that Dumbledore had bewitched the locks so you couldn’t use that spell. (p.159)

    • @ovrtrubledwtr1
      @ovrtrubledwtr1 3 месяца назад +12

      Also, you need a wand, and Sirius didn’t have one at the time as far as I know.

    • @alexanderpowell3681
      @alexanderpowell3681 3 месяца назад +1

      Based on hogwarts legacy it was a good idea

    • @chloekhamxox
      @chloekhamxox 3 месяца назад +6

      Theres also many instances of doors being locked with bewitched spells, example: the door that was locked with a special key to get to the stone. Hermione tried the alohemora spell and it did not work.

    • @owencoles2798
      @owencoles2798 3 месяца назад +2

      I’m really surprised this isn’t common knowledge.

    • @Emilia_wallin
      @Emilia_wallin 2 месяца назад +1

      @@ovrtrubledwtr1you can do wandless magic. It’s very difficult tho and it was never stated that Sirius could do it

  • @MegaGandalf12
    @MegaGandalf12 9 месяцев назад +665

    Sirius wasn't given a trial. He was thrown straight into Azkaban by Crouch senior.

    • @TheRealTricky
      @TheRealTricky 9 месяцев назад

      Good point.
      We could wonder if anybody got a fair trial. Crouch sr. was very desperate to show the wizarding world how many Death Eaters he could get into jail.
      When his own son was on trial it was clear it didn't even matter if Crouch jr. was an actual Death eater or not (the movie said the evidence was overwhelming but in the book Sirius says the exact opposite and that nobody knew if Crouch jr. was guilty or not, so it was actually dumb luck he turned out to be one). The "trial" Bagman got also shows this, but Bagman was saved by his Quidditch successes. So basically we can say that verataserum wasn't used in that trial for the same reason it wasn't used in Harry's trial. They couldn't risk Verataserum turning out to be evidence of innosense.

    • @garcardosotan6172
      @garcardosotan6172 9 месяцев назад +60

      True Potion is illegal... Does no one realize this? If you can use it on the criminals, it can be used, just as easily, on you. No politician would want that. XD

    • @robertocazzaniga5548
      @robertocazzaniga5548 9 месяцев назад +19

      @@garcardosotan6172 plus, muggles and the aurors saw Sirius laughing hysterically. That was like a proof of his guilt

    • @TheRealTricky
      @TheRealTricky 9 месяцев назад

      @@garcardosotan6172 Not only that. Who knows what those criminals may all reveal. You'd be surprised how far political heavyweights are often involved in the most repulsive crimes, and it's clear the wizarding world is no different from the muggle world in that regard. You never know for sure what these criminals know and could therefore reveal what could bring political heavy weights in trouble.

    • @garcardosotan6172
      @garcardosotan6172 9 месяцев назад +9

      @@robertocazzaniga5548 I mean, kinda. It was mostly the bike and secret keeper thing.

  • @LogianoPiano
    @LogianoPiano 9 месяцев назад +573

    Why is ‘impirio’ an UNFORGIVABLE CURSE so regulated but love potions that have similar effects to it?

    • @rtbreece
      @rtbreece 9 месяцев назад +76

      I agree 100% it’s very close to the Imperius curse your pretty much forcing that person to stay with you even if they don’t find you attractive . Some cruel person may use it to destroy someone else’s relationship because of jealousy you can really screw someone’s life up with it.

    • @Black3ight
      @Black3ight 9 месяцев назад +36

      perhaps the strenght of a love potion isn't as much as that of a Imperius curse. With Imperio you can literally control someone to do anything you want. as for a love potion it's just messing up with your emotions etc. Strongly suggesting you have feelings for someone.

    • @Xeyxey0
      @Xeyxey0 9 месяцев назад +62

      ​@@Black3ightYeah, but Merope ****ed Tom Riddle by making him think he loved her. That's absolutely disgusting. It should also be more heavily regulated.

    • @Black3ight
      @Black3ight 9 месяцев назад +24

      @@Xeyxey0 oh yeah for sure. Love potions are messed up and should be regulated at the very least. But the point was that Imperio is significantly stronger/worse

    • @jimmy50908
      @jimmy50908 9 месяцев назад +28

      The thing with unforgivable curses is that they are unblockable. There is no defense to someone casting it on you. There would be plenty of other spells that can hurt or even kill you, but those are unforgivable because they are unblockable (though the ministry would still punish you for using other killing/torture curses).
      And yes, although some wizards (like Harry) can throw off the imperious curse, no one can actually stop the curse being put on you.

  • @elainemccormack5346
    @elainemccormack5346 6 месяцев назад +111

    For how Hagrid got to the island to tell Harry he was a wizard, I personally believe he did a Mary Poppins and flew across the water with his umbrella. Im pretty sure he said that his umbrella had pieces of his wand, so it definitely would have been able to do that. I also just think that Hagrid flying over a lake with a pink umbrella would be hilarious.

    • @breashah810
      @breashah810 5 месяцев назад +7

      yes!! I recently picked up the series again to reread and Hagrid's response to Olivander asking whether Hagrid still uses his wand felt odd to me. hagrid clutches his umbrella upon being asked that question and we see him use the umbrella for magic many times up to that point.

    • @occheermommy
      @occheermommy 4 месяца назад +7

      I believe JK has said that Dumbledore had healed his wand with the Elder Wand and it was hidden in the umbrella. I could be wrong and that may just be a fan theory but I thought I heard she confirmed it.

    • @nickdentoom1173
      @nickdentoom1173 4 месяца назад +2

      @@occheermommy I do think its a possibility, as Harry used the Elder Wand to mend his own wand as well before casting the Elder Wand aside.

    • @contra1124
      @contra1124 14 дней назад

      That would be funny 😂 I always thought he used the bike. But I do remember from the books the umbrella was made with the pieces of hagrids wand

    • @bdeezy1794
      @bdeezy1794 4 дня назад

      This is my new Canon. I dont care what anyone including Rowking ever says. Probably that flipping sweet Bike he cruises on. But the Mary Poppins is just too perfect and you know he was flying every bit as smoothly and gracefully as Mary Poppins. I love this.

  • @AntH423
    @AntH423 9 месяцев назад +475

    One plot hole that’s always interested me is how Aunt Petunia didn’t know Harry wasn’t allowed to use magic outside of school the summer between his first and second year. Lilly was a witch, so shouldn’t she know that she wasn’t allowed to use magic? I guess you could say she was so jealous of Lilly that she didn’t pay enough attention to her to notice, but it always had my mind wondering.

    • @Digdigi
      @Digdigi 9 месяцев назад +95

      Or maybe lily and petunia stopped talking altogether since petunia bullied lily and lily never told her shit about her life. I never read books so if I am wrong then I am sorry

    • @catecliff
      @catecliff 9 месяцев назад +105

      I always wondered that too. And the part where they brought Harry to Kings Cross for the first time and they were laughing about leaving him because they didn’t think platform 9 and 3/4 existed… but in the prince’s tale they say Petunia is on platform 9 and 3/4 with Lily and their parents. So she should have known that the platform does exist.

    • @AntH423
      @AntH423 9 месяцев назад +33

      @@catecliff Oh yeah, I forgot that she was on platform 9 and 3/4. That's another good question

    • @AntH423
      @AntH423 9 месяцев назад +20

      @@Digdigi I think they still talked, but they didn’t have a strong bond because Petunia was jealous. It’s been a minute since I’ve read the books, but I’m pretty sure Lily mentioned something about Petunia sending her a vase for Christmas in the note she wrote to Sirius that Harry reads in the Deathly Hallows.

    • @kejingjing1870
      @kejingjing1870 9 месяцев назад +38

      Or she just forgot. As humans we forget a lot of stuff. And she was young at that time so a lot of years have passed since when her sister was at Hogwarts.

  • @matthewpatrick7263
    @matthewpatrick7263 9 месяцев назад +285

    McGonagall told Umbridge exactly how many years she'd been teaching in Order of the Phoenix. She was put in the Fantastic Cashgrabs movies as a memberberry, and also to pretend that Dumbledore was the DADA teacher instead of Transfiguration, which was revealed in Chamber of Secrets.

    • @somebodykares1
      @somebodykares1 8 месяцев назад +25

      There could be a loophole if they consider it. Minerva McGonagall's great-grandmother Minerva Ross could have still been alive before the 1930's when our Minerva was said to have been born. Wizards live longer lifes then Humans so Great-Grandma Minerva could be the possible answer. While yes genetics would prevent this, we don't know if Wizard genetics have a stronger impact on the appearance over the Human half, seeing Minerva is said to be a Half-Blood, but we don't know if Great-Grandma Minerva was a pure blood or not.

    • @The_Ninja_Tree
      @The_Ninja_Tree 8 месяцев назад +13

      I mean Dumbledore could have been DADA for a time in his youth not very surprising given his past fight against the dark arts

    • @pinkski9175
      @pinkski9175 8 месяцев назад +5

      First fantastic beasts was okay at best. The rest fucking sucked. I legit could not finish the third one

    • @Betsybel0726
      @Betsybel0726 8 месяцев назад +2

      Yes, fighting off a bogart could be a defense against the dark arts class because it is defending yourself against a dark creature, but this spell transfigures a creature from something scary to something funny so it could also been used as a way to teach how transfiguration works in a theory type of class

    • @yukalue
      @yukalue 8 месяцев назад +9

      ​@@The_Ninja_Treepottermore confirmed it. After Riddle cursed the position Dumbledore taught it on and off when they couldnt get a teacher.

  • @generallegath974
    @generallegath974 7 месяцев назад +194

    5:56 This theory that only the four Marauders can see each other on the map falls short when you consider that in the book of Prisoner of Azkaban, Snape tracks Lupin to the Whomping Willow by seeing his movement on the map left open on his desk. Also, in the books, Harry literally sees Peter Pettigrew's name on the map before he is confronted by Snape after a trip out to Hogsmeade.

    • @Thecupthatrapmonthrows
      @Thecupthatrapmonthrows 7 месяцев назад +29

      Maybe it is like ‘only marauders can see each other when they are in their animagus form on the map’ ? Because this would explain why no one saw peter for years on the map because he was always in his rat form for those years when twins had it? That would explain a lot

    • @MissSimone02
      @MissSimone02 6 месяцев назад +43

      I think it still holds because Lupin is the one who opened the map. Until you close it with "Mischief Managed" (or whatever the phrase is), it would still be operating under the previous opener.

    • @asdf-y2c
      @asdf-y2c 6 месяцев назад +34

      harry spotting peters name is a movie only. In the books that never happens

    • @generallegath974
      @generallegath974 6 месяцев назад +12

      @@asdf-y2c You are correct, I misremembered that scene in the book.

    • @SamAshworth91
      @SamAshworth91 6 месяцев назад +9

      I've always just thought that they probably weren't looking too hard at Griffindor tower, they'd have been using it sneak around the castle and avoid Filch and the teachers.

  • @papasquatofficial9282
    @papasquatofficial9282 9 месяцев назад +2241

    I think some people confuse plot holes with characters not making the perfect decisions, because they’re human.

    • @dannylagangonzalez6832
      @dannylagangonzalez6832 9 месяцев назад +158

      That's such a good point.

    • @Warzulu77
      @Warzulu77 9 месяцев назад +96

      Literally perfect. Sometimes there's simply too many things to take into perspective, especially with JK's fantasy world.

    • @thorthewolf8801
      @thorthewolf8801 9 месяцев назад +90

      There is a difference between not making perfect decisions because of understandable reasons, and making out of character mistakes, which for a character that is characterized by their cleverness can be considered a plot hole.
      Also, if the characters in the story are humans, then that is moreso true for the writer making them, therefore JK is capable of mistakes, namely, plot holes.

    • @klaudiagrob
      @klaudiagrob 9 месяцев назад +15

      Yes good point. Just like that marauders map thing, this a problem created by the movie makers.

    • @One.Zero.One101
      @One.Zero.One101 9 месяцев назад +21

      If the character never even considered the logical decision, or didn't have a good reason to ignore the logical decision, then it is a plot hole.

  • @hollypennington4000
    @hollypennington4000 9 месяцев назад +185

    I can't remember where I heard this fan theory, but when you are sorted into a house, it's not based on your personality it's based on what you value most, e.g Neville wasn't brave but he strived to face his fears and meet his peers expectations.

    • @jacoxnet2
      @jacoxnet2 8 месяцев назад +21

      Neville was always brave. He also had lots of fears, but he overcame them when it was important. Bravery doesn't mean you don't fear. It means you can overcome fears when necessary. Remember: Neville's bravery in standing up to his friends is why Dumbledore gave Gryffindor the points at the end of the first year to win the house cup.

    • @dianef4227
      @dianef4227 8 месяцев назад +19

      Plus Dumbledore says (something like) I often think we sort too young
      Rowling acknowledged the flawed system within the books.

    • @fsplays9157
      @fsplays9157 8 месяцев назад +6

      @@jacoxnet2 ok but that does not explain how some people (Carabbe, Goyle, Draco etc) ended up in slytheryn despite not being particularly cunning/ambitious

    • @lycosdevanos
      @lycosdevanos 8 месяцев назад +14

      @@fsplays9157 Bloodline or personal choice. Keep in mind, the sorting hat was going to put Harry into Slytherin, but didn't because Harry didn't want to. And Ron 'knew' he was going to be a Gryffindor because his family had all been Gryffindors.

    • @johan.ohgren
      @johan.ohgren 8 месяцев назад +6

      I'd got the impression it's three things 1, the founders values 2, the students characters and 3, the will of the students. A students can match point 1 and 2 for several houses and then number 3 is the deciding factor.

  • @lots_of_codeswallop
    @lots_of_codeswallop 6 месяцев назад +38

    11:18 the plan of the Seven Potters was made by Mundungus Fletcher, it was intentionally implanted into his brain by Snape using a confunding charm. This was meant to create Seven Potters so that Snape would be able to gain Voldemort's trust by telling him the right date of Harry's extraction from the Dursleys while still ensuring Voldemort didn't necessarily succeed at it, since if Harry had changed into someone else (or all of them changed into random muggles) and Voldemort knew the date: they would've all died.
    But with seven Potters and a correct date, Voldemort could intercept the mission but still get confused as to which one is Harry. And since the real Harry was with Hagrid, they couldn't have possibly guessed that they'd put the real Harry with him. That was true, of course, until Harry used expelliarmus which let them know it was him

  • @kalegolas
    @kalegolas 9 месяцев назад +198

    The thing with Rons hand-me-down wand also was the case with Neville, Neville had his fathers wand for years.

    • @NIH1966
      @NIH1966 9 месяцев назад +30

      But in Neville's case, his father wouldn't have use for the wand. In Ron's case, Charlie would still need his wand. I did see a theory somewhere that because Charlie worked with dragons, he might have had a new wand made using a particular Dragon heartstring that was even more suited to him, and could therefore give his old wand to Ron. But I think this is still a stretch. Charlie giving Ron his wand still doesn't seem to make much sense.

    • @feetenjoyer-ue3uu
      @feetenjoyer-ue3uu 9 месяцев назад +19

      That actually kind of makes sense. Neville’s grandmother would have insisted on him using it, because she was determined that he should live up to his father’s reputation. That seems pretty much in character for her, and obviously Mr. Longbottom wasn’t gonna be using it. Whereas by Charlie Weasley it doesn’t make sense that he would just give away his own

    • @JoshLecker
      @JoshLecker 9 месяцев назад +16

      My initial reaction to this was that while Ron got the wand from Charlie, it was likely a loaner wand in Charlies possession to begin with. Charlie may have actually gotten his first personal wand at that time and hence the loaner could be reloaned again down to Ron. For an 11-year old Ron, having his older brother using it for 7 years, he would probably understand it to be his brothers and not really understand the difference.

    • @YariAzQuran
      @YariAzQuran 9 месяцев назад +4

      Are wands that expensive?? 😂

    • @matthewpatrick7263
      @matthewpatrick7263 9 месяцев назад +7

      @@YariAzQuran They're actually cheap considering they're basically the only tool a wizard needs for his entire life, but they are a lot more expensive than what the Weasleys have in their vault.

  • @matthewpatrick7263
    @matthewpatrick7263 9 месяцев назад +203

    I'd guess that Charlie's original wand was already a hand-me-down, so as soon as Charlie got a job and could afford it, he finally bought his own wand, giving the hand-me-down back to the family. Then Charlie's old wand was the one in the family pile that worked best for him.

    • @catterin7815
      @catterin7815 9 месяцев назад +22

      fun note: if you play the Harry Potter Hogwarts Mystery game, you are in the same year as Charlie. He mentions that he loves his wand and that he hopes nothing bad ever happens to it. It's a pop up during a DADA class.

    • @mariacastillo4121
      @mariacastillo4121 8 месяцев назад +9

      ​@@catterin7815 Lol, then it is a plot hole. He has no good reason to give it up

    • @toodlescae
      @toodlescae 8 месяцев назад +9

      ​@@mariacastillo4121look at the condition of it when Ron shows it to Harry. Parts of the core were poking out. Charlie graduated in 1991 so he'd used the heck out of his wand in 7-8 years before buying a new one.

    • @rlbarney2
      @rlbarney2 Месяц назад +1

      @@mariacastillo4121 I doubt the video game is canon. Very few IPs allow video games to be canon.

  • @kaylatarapaskoski2390
    @kaylatarapaskoski2390 4 месяца назад +41

    2:53 The Trace is only affected on underage wizards, Tonks is over 17 and it has to be in the presence of None magic folk

    • @FlareFritz
      @FlareFritz 3 месяца назад +7

      By that logic the trace shouldn't have registered Dobby using a hover charm in the house. The trace has always been inconsistent with the way it works so there's no way to explain it away.

    • @EmersynArchbold
      @EmersynArchbold 3 месяца назад +4

      wasn’t she also an auror so her magic wasn’t traced?

    • @FlareFritz
      @FlareFritz 3 месяца назад +6

      @EmersynArchbold The trace seems to be much more location based than actually on a person half the time. Dobby using the hover charm on the pudding was enough to get Harry in trouble even though he and his wand never cast it. That shows us that the trace seems to more just work along the lines of "Magic was used at #4 Privet Drive and the only known magical person there is Harry Potter, so obviously it was him". The logic we've seen with the trace should absolutely have registered Tonks and the other order members using magic but it's so inconsistent that you have to just ignore it.

    • @commanderblaze2094
      @commanderblaze2094 3 месяца назад +7

      The trace could also only be active if there is muggles in the immediate vicinity. When dobby used his magic on the cake, Harry's aunt, uncle, diddly, and their guests were there, but, when it was the 7 potters scene in the later movie, there were only wizards and witches in the house.

    • @ajayjoshy95
      @ajayjoshy95 3 месяца назад +5

      I think the rule talks about using "magic in the presence of a muggle" rather than using magic at all. Which probably explains why Tonks using magic to pack Harry's suitcase or in the movies (sorry canon), Harry using "Lumos" at Dursley's to read at night are deemed okay.

  • @CZsWorld
    @CZsWorld 9 месяцев назад +56

    I'm not sure if this qualifies as a plot hole, but it's ridiculous that Victor Krum catches the snitch when down 160 to lose the game for his team. He could have defended the snitch from being caught by the Irish seeker or played on offense to help his team get into striking range before catching it.
    It would be like when a team goes empty net at the end of a hockey game. You wouldn't just give up when there's still a chance to win.

    • @rekmaramd9307
      @rekmaramd9307 9 месяцев назад +18

      A simple explanation is that he saw his team being crushed, realized that there was no way they would ever make up the difference in points, and decided to end the game at this point where they would only be 10 points behind rather than let it become worse.
      If there is some kind of overall score kept in which how badly you lost games is relevant, only losing by 10 points rather than 200 points would be strategically sound.

    • @CZsWorld
      @CZsWorld 9 месяцев назад +12

      @@rekmaramd9307 this was the world championship, there's no way he would make the call to forfeit for his teammates

    • @Harmthuria
      @Harmthuria 8 месяцев назад +12

      @@CZsWorldI understand why you don’t like it, and I don’t like it either, but this was the explanation given in the books. Apparently, his team was only good enough to make it to the finals because he was the greatest seeker in the world. During the finals however, he didn’t manage to catch the snitch fast enough.

    • @molybdomancer195
      @molybdomancer195 8 месяцев назад +8

      @@CZsWorldhave you watched real world team games? I watch a lot of football (soccer) and there are endless examples of strikers selfishly wasting a good scoring chance by trying to score themselves rather than passing to a better placed teammate. This does often cost the team a win.

    • @DukeOfAwsomeness
      @DukeOfAwsomeness 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@rekmaramd9307 I always hated this because why not wait 1 more minute your only down one goal of your catch the snitch if he justes waited and they scored a goal he grabs it and it’s a tie

  • @lukebaxter3252
    @lukebaxter3252 9 месяцев назад +315

    With Ron and Hermione entering and exiting the Chamber of Secrets, at least in my edition of Deathly Hallows, Ron is described as having a broomstick under his arm, so there you go, not a plothole, they used the broomstick to at least exit the Chamber.

    • @dannylagangonzalez6832
      @dannylagangonzalez6832 9 месяцев назад +2

      Do you mean you did a fanfic re-write of that book, or that it's just stated in your edition of the DH book that you own?

    • @lukebaxter3252
      @lukebaxter3252 9 месяцев назад +27

      @@dannylagangonzalez6832 The copy of the book I have mentions this, but it seems to be in other people's editions, based on the comments here.

    • @mellow3995
      @mellow3995 9 месяцев назад +17

      @@dannylagangonzalez6832 I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he's not talking about his own fanfiction lmao.

    • @darkessraven
      @darkessraven 9 месяцев назад +6

      I recall that too. I just commented about it.

    • @psychoneko5975
      @psychoneko5975 9 месяцев назад +18

      Can confirm. Ron has a broomstick.

  • @brittanyalexis5272
    @brittanyalexis5272 7 месяцев назад +34

    With the thestrals thing, maybe Harry was still dealing with Cedric’s death and he just didn’t notice it. When I get depressed or I’m grieving, I get so lost in my head, obvious things will just go unnoticed, so I can kind of understand Harry not seeing them immediately. It’s not that he couldn’t see them, he just wasn’t paying attention.

    • @k.k.7797
      @k.k.7797 Месяц назад

      I assumed it was a “witness & process” death thing, and especially with sudden death, you’re first in a state of shock before it sinks in. I thought it made a lot more sense and that the video game just wasn’t being consistent with the already established lore (which, I think is much more likely, since in the video game you can also kill people without consequence)

    • @LaquanteFifa
      @LaquanteFifa Месяц назад +3

      But he also saw professor quirrell die at the end of his first year…

    • @itzjim9021
      @itzjim9021 29 дней назад +3

      @@LaquanteFifa yeah that's a good point, because he himself killed Quirrell, so he should've seen Thestrals after waking up in the hospital wing.

    • @itzjim9021
      @itzjim9021 29 дней назад +2

      Yeah, that does make a bit of sense.

    • @voidwxstaken
      @voidwxstaken 26 дней назад

      @@itzjim9021JK has explained this. He had passed out before Quirell died, therefore he would not see the thestrals. There is no logic saying that if you killed a person you get to see thestrals. You have to genuinely see them die in front of you and I don’t even know if he killed quirell, like who takes responsibility for the death.

  • @annabradshaw213
    @annabradshaw213 8 месяцев назад +209

    For plot hole 3 - In the books, they did multiply their food, and Hermione also pointed out that while she could multiply it, it wasn't creating any more nutrition in the food so it was only to satiate their hunger, but the nutrients were still being split in thirds.
    For the plot hole of Ron and Hermione getting out of the Chamber of Secrets - they used the flying broom that was in the room with the keys.
    As far as the sorting, the houses are much more nuanced than those brief descriptions. Slytherin is not evil, it is for those who will put their ambitions above all else and nurtures that, which, to be fair, does tend to turn out evil tendencies.
    Thank you for this fun video!

    • @Alduinhead
      @Alduinhead 8 месяцев назад +44

      It's pretty clear that several of these plotholes came from people who haven't read the books for a long time, if ever

    • @EcbluejaysSC
      @EcbluejaysSC 8 месяцев назад +21

      Was it stated in the book that Ron and Hermione got out of the Chamber of Secrets on a broom attained from the room of keys? Those are completely different areas of the castle. I dont remember what was actually said in the book, but that doesnt make sense to me. Ron got a broom from somewhere, but from the room of keys isnt adding up.

    • @mr.cheese7339
      @mr.cheese7339 8 месяцев назад +4

      @@EcbluejaysSC In some editions of the Deathly Hallows, Ron was described to have a broomstick under his arm.

    • @EcbluejaysSC
      @EcbluejaysSC 8 месяцев назад +5

      @@mr.cheese7339 but do any of them say where the broom was grabbed from? Im questioning where he obtained the broom, not that he had one.

    • @annabradshaw213
      @annabradshaw213 7 месяцев назад +9

      @@EcbluejaysSC Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry, I think I was thinking of the Sorcerer's Stone! Head smack! ;-p

  • @griseldamiller174
    @griseldamiller174 9 месяцев назад +93

    Also, with the 7 Harries plot, it was imperative for lord Voldemort to put his trust on Snape 100%. And he achieved this by giving lord Voldemort the right date the order was moving Harry.

    • @dannylagangonzalez6832
      @dannylagangonzalez6832 9 месяцев назад +2

      And telling them exactly what the plan was.

    • @matthewpatrick7263
      @matthewpatrick7263 9 месяцев назад +6

      Because of course, killing Dumbledore wasn't enough. Why on earth would Snape be expected to know what the Order was doing after that? "Funnily enough, I'm not welcome at Order meetings anymore, just because I killed their leader."

    • @ambiverter
      @ambiverter 9 месяцев назад +6

      It wasn't about trust as I understand it, but about him being proven as a reliable and competent spy. So that he stays in Voldemort's good books.
      Remember, Snape had still lot of work to do for the good.
      - Keep his mind intact against Voldemort's legilimency.
      - Serve as a headmaster so that he can protect students.
      - Give Harry the Sword of Griffindor.
      - Tell him at last that he is a Horcrux, and must die.

  • @vexingtonleifang7409
    @vexingtonleifang7409 2 месяца назад +6

    With Dumbledores painting, if you think about it, it's right there in the office where it has a good view to people coming in, the pensive, conversations had, etc. Dumbledore knew what he was doing.

  • @jojotchen
    @jojotchen 9 месяцев назад +227

    I think Ron and Hermione definitely used Broomsticks to get out of the Chamber of Secrets because when they met up with Harry again Ron carried one with his arm.

    • @danielpotapczuk2155
      @danielpotapczuk2155 9 месяцев назад +5

      As there were still a lot of rocks everywhere, Hermione probably told Ron to stand on a rock with her and then casted Wimgardium Leviosa.

    • @PreppySlays01
      @PreppySlays01 9 месяцев назад

      @@danielpotapczuk2155but can wimgardium Leviosa spell work on anything including rocks or people

    • @danielpotapczuk2155
      @danielpotapczuk2155 9 месяцев назад +6

      @@PreppySlays01 Levicorpus is used to transport people and Wimgardium Leviosa to transport objects.

    • @shwetawalkar9384
      @shwetawalkar9384 9 месяцев назад +2

      Exactly ron had a broom

    • @hesnchz
      @hesnchz 9 месяцев назад +7

      Thank you! I was about to write exactly this! It says that they had a bunch of basilisk fangs, and Ron had a broomstick under his arm

  • @anagodyna573
    @anagodyna573 9 месяцев назад +34

    about sorting into the houses, I saw a short on youtube about it and it made a lot of sense to me. Basically, the idea is that children are sorted according to their values, like, what they value in life, not actual character traits. It works especially well with the fact that there are a lot of examples when wizarding families got sorted into one house, and that happens not because they are all the same, but because they share the same values that their parents taught them.

    • @annhime588
      @annhime588 3 месяца назад +2

      Ooo I agree with this 💯 coz like Sirius Black who didn't share the same value of the pure blood thing that his family was VERY into, he was happy to be sorted to Gryffindor.

  • @sam-psonsmith9951
    @sam-psonsmith9951 6 месяцев назад +5

    "The entire wizzarding world is at stake sir, you have to make the potion, as many as you can."
    "Ah..who got the time...i got classes to teach, other things...Not worth the hassle. "

  • @ivantimofeev6580
    @ivantimofeev6580 9 месяцев назад +115

    About wands for Death Eaters - I think that other Death Eaters could easily stole some wands for them or kill enough people. Then Bellatrix and the others could easily kill more people, so the wands of those new victims accepted Death Eaters as their masters. Plus later on, they kidnapped Ollivander - and as he said, he made new wands at least for some of them.

    • @dannylagangonzalez6832
      @dannylagangonzalez6832 9 месяцев назад +13

      Plus I believe that they would have spare wands stored in a mutual location in case that type of thing ever happened.

    • @NIH1966
      @NIH1966 9 месяцев назад +12

      But doesn't Ollivander identify Bellatrix's wand in Book 7 because he sold it to her? Am I confusing film with book?

    • @JAMISRA
      @JAMISRA 9 месяцев назад +14

      do the books even say that people’s wands are snapped when they go to Azkaban? They snap the wands of people expelled from Hogwarts bc they are never allowed to have a wand again. but not everyone who goes to Azkaban is there for life so they may save their wands

    • @danielpotapczuk2155
      @danielpotapczuk2155 9 месяцев назад +3

      Possibly they just knew that they could go to Azkaban, so they might have prepared for the case and just bought some spare wands that they hid somewhere.

    • @udraj914
      @udraj914 9 месяцев назад +10

      Doesnt make sense. I remember Hermione saying about Bella's wand, its too much part of her. Its wand that tortured Neville's parents, its the wand that killed Sirius.

  • @mumtolalalumpitie8597
    @mumtolalalumpitie8597 9 месяцев назад +41

    A small point, from a UK fan, who is similar in age to Rowling, that rigorous background checks in any school didn't start happening until 2002, I think following The Soham murders.
    Uusally checks were briefly done via the police. I think Jo genuinely wanted the school experience to be based on real life schools in the UK.
    So anyone could teach in the UK with just a soft search when the books were set, thus allowing for any teacher to be at Hogwarts to mirror muggle schools.
    It's probably viewded as a plot hole based on either modern day society or ppl in countries unfamiliar with the UK pre2002 in my humble opinion.

  • @undrhil
    @undrhil 3 месяца назад +7

    9:30 I don't remember which book it is in, but I'm pretty sure there was a section that talked about using potions on Wizards and how really powerful Wizards would just change the potion into something else before they actually swallowed it

  • @tyrannicpuppy
    @tyrannicpuppy 9 месяцев назад +53

    "Leading to his capture and eventual death..."
    Sirius using his animagus form didn't have anything to do with his death. He was never actually captured either. He voluntarily went to the Ministry with the rest of the Order to save Harry. His form isn't even mentioned during that battle. It was him not taking Bellatrix seriously that caused his death.
    It's never even confirmed that the Malfoy's know about or saw Sirius's form. The 'dogging' remark from Draco is the only hint. And Draco's never exactly been subtle with his digs at the group.

    • @Boundwithflame23
      @Boundwithflame23 6 месяцев назад +2

      Snape said Sirius was recognized though. It was during the argument about Snape teaching Harry Occlumency

  • @corentinrichard9864
    @corentinrichard9864 9 месяцев назад +219

    Considering Ron did not know that Sirius 'betrayed' the Potters or that the Longbottoms lost their minds too torture, we can assume that Molly and Arthur sheltered their children from the horrors of the war. They never heard about any of that no more than about 'Peter the tragic hero'. So if the twins ever saw him on the map, it was just some random name amongst many others to them.

    • @TomTomBL3
      @TomTomBL3 9 месяцев назад

      But what would they think if this guy called Peter petigrew slept with Ron every day for 3 years

    • @tgiacin435
      @tgiacin435 9 месяцев назад +15

      @BobobearBee-kw8buone thing I’m wondering is how does it work with animals? They mention Mrs. Norris, but not any other animal. I always chalked it up to they only added Mrs. Norris because of her connection with Filtch.

    • @tanmayjain3543
      @tanmayjain3543 9 месяцев назад +17

      But still, he was sleeping with ron so it would have looked suspicious lol

    • @tgiacin435
      @tgiacin435 9 месяцев назад +8

      @@tanmayjain3543 I feel like the map only detects Mrs. Norris because she’s a special case. Other than that I don’t remember any other animaigus showing up on the map. Otherwise I think Rita Skeeter would show up being at least 1 of 5 known unregistered animaigus

    • @astoria4ever
      @astoria4ever 9 месяцев назад +5

      iirc, the marauders were the only ones who could see themselves/eachother on the map

  • @EPM9000
    @EPM9000 7 месяцев назад +38

    For the Moody/Crounch Jr polyjuic voice plothole. In the movie, during the plot twist, Crouch (as Moody) demonstrates an impression of Hagrid. This shows Crouch is adept at imitating voices. So his voice didn’t change, he is just a much better mimic than other characters have shown to be.

    • @rlyman3516
      @rlyman3516 6 месяцев назад +4

      That’s the movie, in the books it just disguises their voice. The reason the movie had the voices be changed, The first time we saw polyjuice potion was still that the viewers could remember that it’s not actually crab and goyle and because there were so many Harry’s on screen in seven part one, they just wanted us to remember who was who. the fourth movie is just bad.

    • @DeRobez
      @DeRobez 3 месяца назад +1

      ⁠@@rlyman3516 I genuinely wish they would remake Goblet of Fire. The book was great. The movie is, indeed, bad. It’s so bad 😔

    • @amateruss
      @amateruss Месяц назад

      @@DeRobez With a 30+ old Harry? That's mental.

    • @DeRobez
      @DeRobez Месяц назад

      @@amateruss Daniel Radcliffe isn’t the only human alive who can play Harry. He did a phenomenal job but someone else could fill in & make a better movie lol

  • @darkessraven
    @darkessraven 9 месяцев назад +42

    17:33 i recall the books saying that they had one broomstick with them when they met up with Harry after he was in Ravenclaw’s common room.

  • @Primisshorts01
    @Primisshorts01 9 месяцев назад +79

    for the Dennis Creevey one, I think it's just because Umbridge is stupid and only paid attention to the older students, the ones she thought might be a threat to the ministry.

    • @IGhengisKhanI
      @IGhengisKhanI 6 месяцев назад +3

      fred and george know secret ways out, they could have just told him

    • @sawanna508
      @sawanna508 6 месяцев назад +3

      Also both Creevey brothers unfortunatly manage to sneak back into Hogwarts to take part in the Battle of Hogwarts eventhough they are not supposted to fight because they are underage. It seems they know their ways around.

    • @Donanzador
      @Donanzador 26 дней назад

      ​@@sawanna508 Only Colin was mentioned to have fought (and died) in the battle of Hogwarts, not Dennis.

  • @gabefowler9198
    @gabefowler9198 2 месяца назад +4

    its said in the 21:00 it's said in book that a Thestral can't hold Hagrids weight, it was also stated in the first book he was allowed to do a spot of magic to get there but not once with/near harry

  • @Thebalancewitch1134
    @Thebalancewitch1134 9 месяцев назад +1568

    29 of these will be from the Fantastic Beasts series, I’m sure.

    • @MetaloidGD
      @MetaloidGD 9 месяцев назад +101

      Wrong

    • @BrokensideTV
      @BrokensideTV 9 месяцев назад +48

      wanna edit???

    • @MANOFTIME
      @MANOFTIME 9 месяцев назад +127

      Another fantastic beast hater who does not know why they hate it but just because everyone else hates it they also hate it.

    • @MetaloidGD
      @MetaloidGD 9 месяцев назад +169

      Literally the exact opposite 💀 29 from the Harry Potter series and 1 from fantastic beasts

    • @edschelchang6123
      @edschelchang6123 9 месяцев назад +48

      It's actually the opposite, only 1 plot hole is from Fantastic Beasts

  • @DerpKarp
    @DerpKarp 9 месяцев назад +234

    The cursed child is gonna take up 31 of all plot holes

    • @lonely.whispers
      @lonely.whispers 9 месяцев назад

      Yup. Someday I’m gonna buy the cursed child and burn it in a bonfire

    • @josephj807
      @josephj807 9 месяцев назад +6

      Fr lol

    • @bomoose
      @bomoose 9 месяцев назад +11

      more like 100

    • @i.marchand4655
      @i.marchand4655 9 месяцев назад +8

      Thankfully, it isn't canon.

    • @lonely.whispers
      @lonely.whispers 9 месяцев назад +7

      @@i.marchand4655 it is tho? I mean officially. I don’t consider it canon.

  • @JoseSR328
    @JoseSR328 5 месяцев назад +9

    One plot hole about the portkey is that how in the Quidditch World Cup, Cedric managed to land perfectly but in the Tri Wizard Tournament he ended up falling down

    • @cheeplethebulldog1420
      @cheeplethebulldog1420 2 месяца назад +3

      I think its because in the first case, he knew that the boot was a portkey, and knew what to do. He only knew the cup was a portkey after he reached its destination, so maybe its like not bracing for movement on time while on the train.

  • @karlsmith2570
    @karlsmith2570 9 месяцев назад +27

    15:01
    The Sword of Gryffindor wasn't a Horcrux. The locket that Ron, Hermione, and Harry pilfered from Umbridge was the horcrux

    • @sawanna508
      @sawanna508 9 месяцев назад +4

      Exactly. I think it is only once mentioned Voldemort may have intendet to use it but never got his hands on it.

    • @MGower4465
      @MGower4465 8 месяцев назад +6

      I think the plot hole is that *Harry* was a Horcrux, so the sword, capable of destroying a Horcrux, should have affected him when he touched it.

    • @mightypancake2211
      @mightypancake2211 7 месяцев назад +3

      @@MGower4465 The sword was just a goblin metal sword that absorbed beneficial powers, and was enchanted to return to the hat when it was out of the hands of Griffindors.
      It didn't have the power to destroy Horcruxs till after it stabbed the Baskilix. And even then Harry didn't find out till later that it could do the same as a Baskilix fang.
      And no the Horocrux has to be directly attacked with such to be destroyed and is heavily protected against most magics besides dark magics/curses. So one couldn't break them so easily. That is why the locket horcrux was trying to kill harry when he was trying to retrieve the sword in the lake.
      As for why the sword didn't hurt harry is cause he was a Griffindor and Harry first. and he was an unintended horcrux. That aside Harry was still Harry. That was why the killing spell on Harry killed the last part of Tom Riddle instead of Harry. And why the sword wouldn't harm harry namely cause of where it was pointed... Not like the Sword was an active Horcrux hunter so it didn't like try killing harry itself, it was just a tool just like the fangs.

    • @mightypancake2211
      @mightypancake2211 7 месяцев назад

      @@sawanna508 Yes Voldemort(Tom Marvelo Riddle) wanted to use all the founder's items to create Horcruxs. But cause the sword of Griffindor only appeared to Griffindors from the hat, it was hard to get an item that wasn't easy to get one's hands on. And I am sure he wanted the Sorting hat but that was always hidden away in a place he couldn't get at it easily. so yes.
      He had to only get the three founder items, and use them. He already made one but also was the most anyone would want to make cause when you rip your soul in the books, it took like half of you to do so. So each time later was another half... And you just halved that until we got what was left. Which was maybe a 20th of his soul was left?

    • @DragoX7
      @DragoX7 7 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@MGower4465well it wasn't the sword itself necessarily, it was the basilisk venom that had been taken into the sword that gave the sword it's Horcrux destroying capabilities.

  • @Rj-ij6ko
    @Rj-ij6ko 9 месяцев назад +47

    It’s funny, the thing with truth serum is that they make a point of saying that truth serum would make even Voldemort tell the truth.
    If they hadn’t added that, it could have been like a lie detector test in real life, with how some people can beat it.

    • @szymson1992
      @szymson1992 9 месяцев назад +1

      I don't remember if it was in the books, but I think veritaserum only works, when the person doesn't know they ingested it

    • @garcardosotan6172
      @garcardosotan6172 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@szymson1992 No, but Fudge makes a point of saying that if you believe hard enough, a lie can be a truth to you. He says this near the butt end of book four if you want to look it up.
      Also, pretty sure book 5 says using it is illegal??? And again, people tend to forget how long these problem solving potions take to make.

    • @CaptainvonDore
      @CaptainvonDore 9 месяцев назад +3

      But can it make a 400 foot tall purple platypus bear with pink horns and silver wings tell the truth?

    • @acid0428
      @acid0428 9 месяцев назад

      @@CaptainvonDoreI suppose it might...

    • @rekmaramd9307
      @rekmaramd9307 9 месяцев назад

      @@CaptainvonDore It would actually cause a paradox, "What happen when someone who always lies take a potion that only make you say the truth?" xD

  • @MarinaTilich
    @MarinaTilich 7 месяцев назад +15

    11:16 that would ruin the plan that made snape be trusted, so then Voldemort would see that snape was lying

  • @minibex5258
    @minibex5258 9 месяцев назад +28

    for the felix felicis one, i could swear that there's some piece of info out there that if too many people drink it in a close proximity, the luck would either negate itself or cause a really bad case of bad luck. i wanna say it's somewhere in quidditch through the ages because they go over a rule about why players are forbidden to drink liquid luck, but i'm not entirely sure
    for the peter pettigrew one, i wouldn't be surprised of peter spent most of his time away from ron, especially at night. rats are naturally nocturnal and while peter is human, i think some rat traits started to sneak into him. so peter could've been far away from ron at night instead of "sleeping in his bed" (i don't think anywhere in the books said ron sleeps with his rat anyway). prisoner of azkaban movie kinda helps with this theory since peter was seen on the map at night, even tho this scene wasn't in the books. but we always see peter active at night anyway; i don't think he has many scenes where he's seen in the daytime.

    • @garcardosotan6172
      @garcardosotan6172 9 месяцев назад +6

      That one is simply. Why would Fred and George give a f*** about watching their brother sleep?

    • @ambiverter
      @ambiverter 9 месяцев назад +3

      It is mentioned once I guess in 2nd or 3rd book that Harry Shoves Scabbers from his pillow 😂 when he was going to bed. Idk maybe Peter thought to take a nap on the nearest empty bed for a change 😂

    • @garyasselstine9186
      @garyasselstine9186 6 месяцев назад +1

      ...in case they wanted to make sure he didn't interfere with one of their practical jokes?
      In case they wanted to turn his pillow into a bunch of spiders again...

    • @Tsuki----普通の馬鹿
      @Tsuki----普通の馬鹿 6 месяцев назад

      I think that since Peter was one of the Marauders, he wasn't visible on the map. I think that Marauders wouldn't want their map being used against them, so in case they lost the map, they wouldn't be visible on it.

    • @cheeplethebulldog1420
      @cheeplethebulldog1420 2 месяца назад

      Also learned that veritaserum was costly and brewing them can be time wasting, especially if it can go wrong at any time

  • @MegaGandalf12
    @MegaGandalf12 9 месяцев назад +24

    @13:50 Slughorn didn't make a small amount. He made a cauldron full! He just gave the small amount as prize.

    • @dannylagangonzalez6832
      @dannylagangonzalez6832 9 месяцев назад +4

      It's still very complicated to make, plus I doubt one cauldron would even have been enough for all the people fighting. I imagine that the death eaters running the school would also do frequent checks for such things in every professors office, using revealing charms etc, to see if they were trying to hide it. The only way it could have been done is via dumbledore's army, but unless they got it via owl order, none of them were likely skilled enough at potions to make it.
      Possibly Slughorn could have done it in Myrtle's bathroom, but even then, Snape could have told them to check for that, as I imagine he'd have been told about the trio making polyjuice potion there.

    • @diminie_chimket
      @diminie_chimket 9 месяцев назад +4

      That doesn't matter. It still takes 6 months to make. They wouldn't have had any time to make the amount of Felix Felicis they needed.

  • @lukemarbachsps4clips849
    @lukemarbachsps4clips849 2 месяца назад +5

    Quirrell being an existing Hogwarts professor as the DADA teacher makes the jinx Voldemort places on the job a plot hole

    • @dragonlogos1
      @dragonlogos1 Месяц назад +4

      No, because he wasn’t DADA teacher until that year he taught muggle studies if I recall,

    • @szabok1999
      @szabok1999 15 дней назад

      ​@@dragonlogos1Yes, there was a retcon about that. But originally in the first book nothing implies that he is new to DADA.

  • @arshiajain3404
    @arshiajain3404 9 месяцев назад +100

    For "Why could order members use magic at dursely's?", isn't it because they were adults and didn't have the trace on them while Harry was a minor and Dobby was a house elf.

    • @dannylagangonzalez6832
      @dannylagangonzalez6832 9 месяцев назад +13

      That's a good explanation. Other possibilities are that there weren't any Muggles around at the time, so the Ministry thought it didn't matter, or there was interference due to there being like 10 wizards in one small house.

    • @PendulumBlade
      @PendulumBlade 9 месяцев назад +20

      Kingsley was in the ministry, so he couldve pulled some strings

    • @udraj914
      @udraj914 9 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@PendulumBladenope, they were doing it especially "not" to alert the ministry

    • @klaudiagrob
      @klaudiagrob 9 месяцев назад

      Yes

    • @matthewpatrick7263
      @matthewpatrick7263 9 месяцев назад +12

      In HBP, when Harry found out how Tom killed his father, he asked Dumbledore why the Trace didn't get him caught. Dumbledore's answer was that the Trace is only on the houses of underage witches and wizards who don't have magical parents. It's not on people, but places. They can't tell who cast the spell. The Ministry wants everyone to believe in the "Trace" that is on every underage witch and wizard, but that's simply a lie. I'll never understand how Harry forgot that in DH. (P.S. That means it's a prejudiced law against muggle-borns, since they're generally the only ones who can be caught.)

  • @Batman-hb9dh
    @Batman-hb9dh 9 месяцев назад +22

    In the first book Harry says to Ron that he just saw "a bunch of green light" and said that he doesnt remember much else

  • @RandomFandoms4710
    @RandomFandoms4710 Месяц назад +1

    22:07 There is also a theory that Dumbledore knew all the defense against the dark arts teachers were bad and that he manufactured all of Harry’s dangers before he died so he could prepare him to take down Voldemort. Basically the theory states all of Harry’s successes and perils were all purposeful. Also the position was cursed so even if that theory isn’t true, background checks won’t do much, as every teacher is going to have something bad happen, which will lead to a lot of evil ones.

  • @dannylagangonzalez6832
    @dannylagangonzalez6832 9 месяцев назад +109

    The reason Tonks was able to do that magic at the Dursley's is probably one of 2 reasons, either, the ministry detected the fact that there weren't any muggles around at the time, so it didn't matter, because the times harry did, there were muggles around, or, it got interfered as if it was a magical location because there were lots of wizards there so it couldn't tell who did it.
    Also are you a seer Morgan, because I was legit going to upload a video myself today where I debunk some Harry Potter plot holes.

    • @avijatsinharoy8944
      @avijatsinharoy8944 9 месяцев назад +20

      Reason 3)The trace makes no sense

    • @dannylagangonzalez6832
      @dannylagangonzalez6832 9 месяцев назад +7

      @@avijatsinharoy8944 Yeah it really doesn't tbh, I'm writing a fanfiction atm where I have Ginny and the other kids using magic outside of school all the time because in Magical locations, they can't tell who does it.
      I even have Ginny specifically say that she uses it to hide some of the twins joke products from Molly under her bedroom floor.

    • @avijatsinharoy8944
      @avijatsinharoy8944 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@dannylagangonzalez6832 dude really made an entire story from a plot hole,bravo

    • @dannylagangonzalez6832
      @dannylagangonzalez6832 9 месяцев назад +4

      @@avijatsinharoy8944 well no, that's not where my entire story comes from, my main idea was to give Ginny a much bigger role in the series, so in mine she's close friends with Harry from the day they meet and they start dating much earlier, but i decided to take advantage of this plot hole once I realised it could be useful to my narrative. It's going to be particularly useful when I get to my OOTP re-write, as it means I can change one of my most hated scenes from that book.

    • @saphiramystique2086
      @saphiramystique2086 9 месяцев назад +6

      Harry still would have gotten in trouble for using Magic outside of school since he was underage, but it's likely Dumbledore or someone in the order alerted the ministry that they were picking up Harry, That could explain why Harry didn't get in trouble for Tonks’ magic in OOTP, but there is still a plothole with it, because Mr. Weasley uses magic at the Dursley’s when picking up Harry in GOF, and Harry never gets blamed for that.

  • @Sofia-Garcia
    @Sofia-Garcia 9 месяцев назад +6

    i never comment on videos but i just wanted to say that i love your new setup! it looks super high quality on video and it really catches my attention before you get into things.

  • @ellikojo5956
    @ellikojo5956 2 месяца назад +2

    Education: They do mention that if you want to become an auror, you have to do 3 years of additional training in the ministry. But it is true that there aren't any schools to apply, the training that you need for a specific job is probably provided by the employer. I would hope that they have their version of med school for those who want to become healers in St Mungos.

  • @smileyforus
    @smileyforus 9 месяцев назад +5

    I love these kind of videos! They're super interesting and it's always nice to listen to you, an expert on Harry Potter, talk about the story, the plot holes, the characters and whatever that's from the wizarding world.

  • @MrWill9002
    @MrWill9002 9 месяцев назад +28

    Actually I think the book DID say they used broomsticks to get out of the Chamber of Secrets in The Deathly Hallows

  • @Kagara
    @Kagara 19 дней назад +1

    The differencd between the portkey that transported harry to voldemort and ghe one for the triwizard thing is that one was supposed to carry one person therefore not needing any timer, the other one was ment to transport multiple people so it needs a time and cant just disapear when the first person touches it.

  • @roccothepuppy8332
    @roccothepuppy8332 9 месяцев назад +5

    Ben loving the HP videos! All of them! I have got so much into HP more because of this channel! Keep up the good work!

  • @davidstears7037
    @davidstears7037 9 месяцев назад +14

    To the "Death Eaters getting their wands back", from a movie plot hole perspective, there isn't one. The Death Eater's stormed into Olivander's to kidnap him, and as they did, Grayback had a half dozen wands under his arm. So the "they couldn't exactly go to Olivander's to get new wands" was.... Actually exactly what they did. XD

    • @FlareFritz
      @FlareFritz 3 месяца назад +2

      Except in terms of the movie, they kidnap him at the start of HBP when most of the death eaters already had their wands back right after they got out of Azkaban in OOTP.

    • @ChillFinity2000
      @ChillFinity2000 2 месяца назад +1

      ok but they also had wands BEFORE they raided the ollivander, as demonstrated in OOTP, where they fought the Order. However, ollivander isnt the only wandmaker out there, and they could've easily gone to someone else for help.

  • @itzjim9021
    @itzjim9021 29 дней назад +2

    On the topic of portkeys, I have a plot hole: why didn't everyone that participated in the battle of the 7 potters in the deathly hallows not disguise themselves as harry, and just simply take a portkey to travel to their destination? Like, it could've been much, much safer. It would mean that Hedwig and Alastor Moody would have lived, and George getting his ear severed wouldn't of happened!

  • @andeeharry
    @andeeharry 9 месяцев назад +12

    1:08 All part of Dumbledore's Big Plan unfortunately. He has been manipulating the timeline since the 40s. The Potters had to die for plot convivence and because of the prophecy. Of course, nobody knew which boy was to be marked, and the gamble sort of paid off.

    • @Kmmlc
      @Kmmlc 8 месяцев назад

      Only Dumbledore knew the whole prophecy. And it was before either Harry or Neville was born. One more day and Harry isn't the boy of prophecy, Neville is. And Dumbledore himself states that he didn't know at the time that Tom Riddle would become the most feared Dark Wizard in living memory. He decided to keep an eye on him because he knew his personality and was worried. He didn't think he was right for a teaching post either right after graduating.
      Tom only knew the portion about the prophecy that pertained to being born at the end of July and to parents who had defied him thrice. Dumbledore never wanted James and Lily dead, he even offered to be their secret keeper. He had no way of knowing how everything would play out, though he got his first breakthrough when was given the Diary. Once he knew a horcrux was involved for sure that mandated a new plan.

  • @tomlinson1710
    @tomlinson1710 9 месяцев назад +17

    17:26 they used a broom. It was shown in the book

  • @tacohaloman
    @tacohaloman 2 месяца назад +1

    For the port key one I feel there was a difference in uses. For the boot it was set up by the ministry for multiple people (who can’t just apparate/ fly/ etc. there) to have a way to get there, like public transport has a schedule. Meaning it would make since it was timed. For the Triwizard Cup/ Wizard Head, it seems it was set up as when it’s touched it teleports you to the pre determined place, no matter how long it would take. For the cup, how could they know exactly when it’s gonna get touched, what would Krum or Fluer have to stand there for 15 minutes until the cup glowed blue? It’s apparent that the cup was always a portkey, just one that teleported you to the opening, where Crouch Jr. added a destination before it, but not overwrite it. Maybe there’s something keeping someone from replacing a destination, I dunno.

  • @theastraloverlord4091
    @theastraloverlord4091 9 месяцев назад +14

    2:57. Pretty sure they DID do that. But food becomes less nutritious, hence why Rons wound took so long to heal. And sometimes the food was so lackluster that they didn't even want to multiply it.

    • @sawanna508
      @sawanna508 6 месяцев назад +1

      Yes, at one point they are eating something and Ron beggs Hermione not to multiply it because it was aweful.

  • @johnjones4426
    @johnjones4426 9 месяцев назад +67

    17:39 they do get broomsticks from the room of requirement in the book

    • @katerinajirmusova3683
      @katerinajirmusova3683 9 месяцев назад +22

      Exactly, in the book it’s written that Ron had a broomstick under his arm.. so this is not a plothole at all

    • @screamingopossum7809
      @screamingopossum7809 9 месяцев назад +4

      Exactly. A lot of plotholes are explained in the book or with basic critical thinking skills. JK Rowling is very good at not treating the reader like they're stupid and leaves a lot of basic sense things up in the air.
      This video is stupid.

    • @renegade8283
      @renegade8283 8 месяцев назад

      couldn't they just apparate

    • @Jintyandpugstudios356
      @Jintyandpugstudios356 7 месяцев назад

      @@renegade8283you can’t apparate on hogwarts grounds,silly! Have you even read Hogwarts: a history?

    • @ulyana_dino
      @ulyana_dino 3 месяца назад +1

      @@renegade8283 *rolle up eyes in Hermione style* have you read the History of Hogwarts???
      You can't apparate inside Hogwart's walls.

  • @KCEBGaming
    @KCEBGaming 6 месяцев назад +2

    The plot hole with Bellatrix’s Wand is even more strange considering Ollivander can identify wands and identifies Bellatrix’s wand when the group is at Shell Cottage before the Gringotts break in

  • @Prodrummer1603
    @Prodrummer1603 9 месяцев назад +23

    Marauders Map Plot Hole:
    Snape was able to spot Remus Lupin on the Map when he entered Lupins office to give him the potion. He was not part of the Marauders. How was he able to see Lupin ?
    Maybe the Marauders Map only shows the Marauders if the Marauders are activating the map but still everybody can see them.
    Charlies Wand Plot Hole:
    After school Charlie got to work with dragons. His wand core was made out of unicorn hair. Maybe the interest into dragons also changed his compatibility with another wand core. Maybe a wand with dragon heart string was more suitable for him for his new job ?
    Wands with Unicorn Core also can die / lose power after time. They don't last forever. Maybe Charlies wand just got worse and worse overtime and he thought it was time for a new wand and because the Weasleys were poor they thought it would be a good idea to give Ron Charlies old wand ?
    Ron basically got the worst deal ever: a wand that belonged to another wizard (unicorn hair usually remains loyal to the original owner) and a wand with a core that might have lost all the power at that time. No wonder why Ron's magic in the first years was mediocre.

    • @dannylagangonzalez6832
      @dannylagangonzalez6832 9 месяцев назад +1

      Personally I think that Lupin de-activated the "only marauders can see maruaders" charm when he took the map from harry, either in case he gave it back in the future, or because he didn't think anyone else would ever see it from then on.

    • @markkonigsmann1079
      @markkonigsmann1079 9 месяцев назад +5

      My explanation for the plot hole regarding Charlie's wand is that the wand Charlie got belonged to another member of the Weasley family who died long ago. Similar to Neville who used his father's wand until he got a new wand in book six. So the wand was also strange to Charlie and not a wand that choosed Charlie at Ollivander's. Ron just called it Charlie's wand, because he got the wand from Charlie when Charlie got his new wand after he graduated from school which just happend before Ron attented Hogwarts for the first time.

    • @Prodrummer1603
      @Prodrummer1603 9 месяцев назад +3

      @BobobearBee-kw8bu Have to disagree.
      Harry Saw Barty Crouch Jr on the map even though He used polyjuice Option to become Mad Eye Moody. The Marauders map can See through Disguises, Polyjuice Potion and Invisibility Cloaks. Animagus should not make any difference.
      Its Just another Form of Disguise.

    • @NIH1966
      @NIH1966 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@markkonigsmann1079 this makes sense. thank you!

    • @brettbrooks5511
      @brettbrooks5511 9 месяцев назад +1

      ​@BobobearBee-kw8bu Lupin wasn't an animagus. He was just a werewolf.

  • @FadeKittieTwin
    @FadeKittieTwin 9 месяцев назад +18

    man his videos explain everything he's so good

  • @GyuriVanda93
    @GyuriVanda93 2 дня назад

    When making Felix Felicis, Slughorn didn't only make that tenny tiny bottle. At the beginning of the class, he has a whole cauldron full of the stuff with the potion, but he only gave away a tiny bottle of it to Harry, who even mentions at the beginning of the class that "drops of the potion were jumping out if the cauldron, like tiny goldfish". Knowing Slughorn though, I am pretty sure he sold the whole thing, one tiny bottle at a time...

  • @theodysseyowl
    @theodysseyowl 9 месяцев назад +74

    Bold of you to assume that Fred and George would spend their time watching Ron in his dormitory-where Peter Pettigrew spent nearly all his time as a rat

    • @klaudiagrob
      @klaudiagrob 9 месяцев назад +3

      Harry never sees Pettigrew on the map in the book.

    • @One.Zero.One101
      @One.Zero.One101 9 месяцев назад

      I feel that's grasping at straws. They never saw him once in what, 17 years?

    • @EspeonMistress00
      @EspeonMistress00 9 месяцев назад +9

      ​@@One.Zero.One101Wtf dym by 17 years 😂
      They got it when they were at school and then gave to Harry before their school ended.

    • @JMcMillen
      @JMcMillen 9 месяцев назад +6

      Exactly. Fred and George would have been using the map to scout out where people were outside their dormitory, probably at night most of the time. With all the other people piled into the dorm at night, a name that didn't have any special meaning to them would have likely gone unnoticed.
      Also, there would have been less than 2.5 year overlap in the twins having the map and Pettigrew being at the school, before they gave it to Harry, about half way through his third year.

    • @matthewpatrick7263
      @matthewpatrick7263 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@JMcMillen Scabbers was with Percy before Ron, so the overlap is longer.

  • @LegoAndrew08
    @LegoAndrew08 9 месяцев назад +51

    3:58 he also watched Quirrell die in the first book?
    Edit: I forgot that in the book he passed out before Quirrell actually died!

    • @Gigglingsiren
      @Gigglingsiren 9 месяцев назад +9

      Quirrel actually died in the hospital wing. Harry wouldn't have seen him die anyway.

    • @matthewrosenthal753
      @matthewrosenthal753 9 месяцев назад +7

      ⁠@@Gigglingsiren No, Quirrell died in the room where Harry confronted him as he literally( in the books & films) burned to ash from touching Harry’s skin and Voldemort exiting his body.

    • @Gigglingsiren
      @Gigglingsiren 9 месяцев назад +13

      @@matthewrosenthal753 The crumbling to ash thing was only in the movies. He was just burned in the books and died from his injuries.

    • @matthewrosenthal753
      @matthewrosenthal753 9 месяцев назад +4

      @@Gigglingsiren He was still dead right after Voldemort abandoned his body.

    • @Gigglingsiren
      @Gigglingsiren 9 месяцев назад +9

      @matthewrosenthal753 So, I went back and reread that part, and Dumbledore tells Harry that Voldemort left Quirrel to die. So he very well could've died in the room immediately or some time later.

  • @indianapeacock8919
    @indianapeacock8919 5 месяцев назад +1

    So, on the case of "The Sorting Ceremony", "The Sorting Hat assigned students to different houses based on the qualities that each of the four founders valued most in their students; Godric Gryffindor valued bravery and chivalry, Helga Hufflepuff valued hard work and loyalty, Rowena Ravenclaw valued intelligence and creativity, and Salazar Slytherin valued ambition and cunning. Anyone who did not possess any of these qualities went to Hufflepuff house by default." The paragraph shown is from the "Harry Potter Wiki", and from what I remember, there is a quote later in the series where Dumbledore asks Snape if they sort too early. And the Slytherins being evil is just a trope that many people go for because it fits their narrative. Slytherins are known for their ambition, which in the eyes of many can be seen as a bad thing. I like to believe that it's a good thing, just because someone is ambitious does not make them evil. I mean, yes, there are quite a few Slytherin Death eaters. But there was also other Death eaters, and in one case a wizard from Hufflepuff, who went and killed over(maybe just under) 1000 people. Yet no one is making base accusations about Hufflepuff. The problem is people making those base accusations. I mean, think about it, if you started a school year and someone made an assumption on your character just because of the place you were sorted, how would that make you feel? Not great, right? Which is why I'm saying that yes the Sorting Hat is flawed, but it has never been wrong. And, the people judging it and the houses are the problem.

  • @Myself-yf5do
    @Myself-yf5do 9 месяцев назад +53

    Voldemort tried to abolish the sorting system, so that was one thing he may have had the right idea about.

    • @JonahTheWhite
      @JonahTheWhite 8 месяцев назад +13

      Yeah why would you need more than one house when all your students are pure blooded?

    • @omegarealmsbans1914
      @omegarealmsbans1914 8 месяцев назад +9

      @@JonahTheWhite How can I be racist if I want a world with only my race in it that offers no opportunities for anyone to be racist to anyone?

    • @Xeno_Solarus
      @Xeno_Solarus 8 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@omegarealmsbans1914The thing is, history tells us what would happen. Look at China's history, where warring tribes (of the same race) fought each other again and again. Or early Europe, or Ireland, Scotland, Africa, Native Americans, etc etc.

    • @omegarealmsbans1914
      @omegarealmsbans1914 8 месяцев назад +5

      @@Xeno_Solarus I'm just messing with the OP. Eliminating all races except your own in the name of getting rid of racism is a horrible argument to make.

    • @luizinhobolinha
      @luizinhobolinha 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@omegarealmsbans1914 cant argue with that lol

  • @jackbrassil5318
    @jackbrassil5318 9 месяцев назад +45

    To be fair, I don't count the Fantastic Beasts films as cannon. So in my ignorant bliss, those films don't exist

    • @Lowko4456
      @Lowko4456 9 месяцев назад +6

      They are though sorry to take away your copium😂

    • @jackbrassil5318
      @jackbrassil5318 9 месяцев назад +14

      @@Lowko4456 Not copium... "ignorant bliss" and sir, you cannot take that away

    • @Motacilla191
      @Motacilla191 9 месяцев назад +8

      For me the movies in general are not canon, just the books.

    • @iMajoraGaming
      @iMajoraGaming 9 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@jackbrassil5318 i mean you can call it whatever you want, not gonna change what it is

    • @Elodie-xi3pp
      @Elodie-xi3pp 9 месяцев назад +5

      Don’t forget the cursed child that should never be cannon

  • @Connor_Baldczus
    @Connor_Baldczus 3 месяца назад +1

    at 4:30 Rowlings statement actually makes sense to me. It seems like a cheap excuse but when my mother died, the full realisation of "She's not coming back" only really fully hit me during her funeral. I just turned 14 and obviously knew about death but still it took a while to really 100% click.

  • @Ediranii
    @Ediranii 8 месяцев назад +5

    at 3:35 I don't remember if I read it in the books or saw it in some other official potter media, but at some point, someone explained, that yes, you can multiply the food, but it degrades in quality (and I'm guessing nutritional value) each time you do so, but never is it explained to what extend and how many times you can do it before getting diminishing returns (or just eating raw air :D). This is a deep one, with no tangible canon info.

  • @D.M.Mortem
    @D.M.Mortem 7 месяцев назад +9

    3:22 Hermione mentions duplicating the food, but Ron says not to because it taste bad.

  • @TylerJ0412
    @TylerJ0412 4 месяца назад +1

    I assume for the Fidelius Charm one that at least 1 person had to be able to come and go to bring them food and news and also let them know if its safe to come out.

    • @rekapatronum1675
      @rekapatronum1675 2 дня назад

      I think that still not explains it. From what I understand, the Fidelius charm works as follows: locations hidden by this need at least 1 person to be the keeper of the secrect. Only this person could tell anyone about where the location is, and if you are not told about it, you cannot see the secret. But if the keeper shares the secret with you, you will be able to see and visit the location. However you are still physically unable to share it with anyone else since it is the privilege of the secret keeper.
      Knowing that it would have been possible for let's say James to be the keeper and perhaps he could tell the secret to his friends, to Dumbledor and other members of the Order of the Phoenix. So they could freely visit the Potter family, but they could not be able to give away the location to others not initiated to the secret. Like how Bill is the secret keeper ofhis house, the Shell Cottage, others he told about the location can visit, like how Lupin did when he announced the birth of his son, but outside of Bill nobody can share the secret. The same goes for Grimmauld Place, the Black residence, where the Order of the Phoenix hides.

  • @IkeFanBoy64
    @IkeFanBoy64 9 месяцев назад +22

    I do find it a bit funny that Dumbledore basically cloned himself by talking to a painting.

    • @screamingopossum7809
      @screamingopossum7809 9 месяцев назад +1

      You ever talk to yourself so much that the walls around you can hold conversation with your intelligence and thought process?

    • @ilikevideos4868
      @ilikevideos4868 9 месяцев назад +1

      "Voldemort going all this trouble to avoid death? Lmao I've got an easier way to live forever"

  • @Myself-yf5do
    @Myself-yf5do 9 месяцев назад +15

    Movie plot holes can be explained with just not reading the books closely enough.

  • @Ayesha-ky9kd
    @Ayesha-ky9kd 6 месяцев назад +1

    For the theory of how Ron and Hermione got out of the chamber of secrets, it is clearly mentioned in the book that Ron had a broomstick under his arm along with the basilisk fang when the trio met outside the Room of Requirement after the chamber of secrets scene. They just needed to read the books carefully.

  • @Julius_JMC
    @Julius_JMC 9 месяцев назад +12

    3:20 I agree. It would sort of be something like having generation loss when copying a picture and printing a copy of each copy. After so many times, the copies start to lose their detail to the point where the original picture is unrecognizable.
    5:50 The problem with that is that Snape claimed to have seen Lupin running towards the willow after the Golden Trio on the map, which was accidentally left open on his desk, while entering to deliver the Wolfsbane potion.
    27:00 I honestly believe that it is both a writing convenience as well as the versatility of how portkeys are created. The ones that had timers on them were made specifically for wizards to travel to the Quiddich World Cup at a specific time, sort of like a one-way flight that tries to stay punctual. Also, the Tri-Wizard Cup was specifically made to be a trap for Harry and was likely made by fake Moody to stay open as long as possible until Harry got there. As for it being two-way: it is very possible that Voldemort's intended plan was to kill Harry after being resurrected and then use the cup to apper in front of the whole crowd with all his followers around him and Harry's dead body at his feet in a sort of grand return that would cause mass panic.

    • @udraj914
      @udraj914 9 месяцев назад +2

      Snape saw the map opened by Lupin. I think its similar to having ur user log in. Lupin forgot to sign out, so Snape could see the map from Lupin's perspective

    • @Julius_JMC
      @Julius_JMC 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@udraj914 that makes a lot of sense

  • @matthewpatrick7263
    @matthewpatrick7263 9 месяцев назад +5

    I've always thought Scabbers found a way to get the Twins to guess the Map's password because it amused him.

  • @DaShirtBoy1
    @DaShirtBoy1 5 месяцев назад +2

    I have an answer for the Death Eaters’ wands plot hole: burner wands.
    Think about it: if you’re in an organized crime group and you know you’re going to get into a situation where you know it’s super risky, and your identity could be revealed, you’ll have a burner phone. Untraceable, assumed to belong to you; and your main personal unit is kept back at headquarters. In the same vein, after all the people the Death Eaters would have killed during the First Wizarding War, it would make sense for someone from the group to be tasked with collecting all their wands and giving them burner wands that belonged to their victims. That way, when the day comes that someone like Bellatrix gets released from Azkaban, she gets her original wand back and is at full power. We even see it in Deathly Hallows, where Voldemort takes Lucius Malfoy’s wand as his burner wand.

  • @ronakdave4466
    @ronakdave4466 9 месяцев назад +5

    31:49 I see what you did there Morgan, I see what you did there 🤣🤣

    • @SlatsCubing
      @SlatsCubing 4 месяца назад

      i dont see it pls help

    • @ronakdave4466
      @ronakdave4466 3 месяца назад

      ​@@SlatsCubing He referenced the famous old cartoon Dennis the menace. Knowingly or not tho, I don't know.

  • @matthewpatrick7263
    @matthewpatrick7263 9 месяцев назад +8

    Regarding the Marauder's Map: Not only was Scabbers with Ron, but with Percy before that. That means that, even if they weren't in the habit of checking out Ron's dorm, they certainly would've checked out Percy's when the first got the Map.

    • @frantisekvrana3902
      @frantisekvrana3902 9 месяцев назад +1

      Why though? Percy only became prefect in his 5th year. The same year Ron got Scabbers.
      While Percy surely was uptight even before then, he could not deduct points until he was prefect, and I don't think even he would tattle on his brothers if it wasn't his job.

    • @SeanWheeler100
      @SeanWheeler100 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@frantisekvrana3902 What does being a prefect have to do with Fred and George spying on him with the Marauder's Map?

  • @AnoushkaRajeev
    @AnoushkaRajeev 2 месяца назад +1

    For the polyjoice voice problem remember after Harry questions Crouch Jr he does a Hagrid voice saying something about creatures meaning that he probably was just really good at doing voices, also they probably just made the trio keep their voices just so the audience don't get confused.

  • @Primisshorts01
    @Primisshorts01 9 месяцев назад +45

    I heard a theory on the port key one by Supercarlinbrothers: Voldemort specifically made the port key to go both ways because he planned to use polyjuice potion to turn into Harry, and sneak into Hogwarts using the cup so he could kill Dumbledore and take over the school.

    • @LoneWolfLuna28
      @LoneWolfLuna28 9 месяцев назад +7

      You actually think they know what they're talking about?

    • @Primisshorts01
      @Primisshorts01 9 месяцев назад +15

      @@LoneWolfLuna28 It's just a theory lol. They know a lot about Harry Potter. Idk what I think about the whole "polyjuice into Harry thing" But the idea of Voldemort making a device that could instantly get him right into Hogwarts isn't that crazy to me.

    • @LoneWolfLuna28
      @LoneWolfLuna28 9 месяцев назад +7

      @@Primisshorts01 I'm referring less to the theory itself, and more to the fact that the SuperCarlinBrothers seem like idiots to me. This is mainly because they are so insistent on theories that the existing canon debunks and they can't seem to accept that J.K. just made a mistake. (Am I specifically referring to Filch being a Poltergeist and Hagrid being in Slytherin? Absolutely.) Then their "What Ifs" use a lot of stuff that would not work in the existing canon, such as Cedric still being a student at Hogwarts during Order of the Phoenix when he was a seventh year in Goblet of Fire, Snape surviving an entire year with a silver hand like Wormtail's that would strangle him the second he turned on Voldemort, Harry being the thing Fleur misses most in the Tri-Wizard Tournament, the Sword of Gryffindor turning into the "Sword of Slytherin" when Voldemort turned it into a horcrux, and so many more problems. Anyway, this is mostly just my opinion on the SuperCarlinBrothers, and probably shouldn't be taken as fact, I just thought I should probably clarify my statement.

    • @vignotum132
      @vignotum132 9 месяцев назад

      @@LoneWolfLuna28Cedric was a sixth-year during GoF. Maybe it’s you who’s an “idiot”

    • @udraj914
      @udraj914 9 месяцев назад +1

      ​​@@LoneWolfLuna28yes they do. Them, Seamus Gorman and Harry Potter Folklore are the biggest HP nerds. They definitely know what they are talking about, and anyway its "just a theory" 🤷 u can either take it or leave it

  • @Myself-yf5do
    @Myself-yf5do 9 месяцев назад +5

    It was already established in the first book that spells could be cast on locks to make them immune to the alohamora charm, so of course they used that on the locks that they used to keep Sirius out.

  • @S-Mania
    @S-Mania 3 месяца назад +1

    For the Veritaserum plothole, also when they give it to Barty Jr, he doesn't tell the full truth. He thinks he'll be praised by Voldemort and his followers, which obviously didn't happen. The potion only tells your version of the truth, which could be wildly different from reality and is why it isn't 100% reliable.

  • @Jedda678
    @Jedda678 9 месяцев назад +6

    17:52 - the room of requirement was already in use. They came back in carrying basilisk fangs.
    What more likely happened is Hermione and Ron used the levitating charm to lift themselves up.

    • @dannylagangonzalez6832
      @dannylagangonzalez6832 9 месяцев назад

      If that was the case though, boys could easily access the girls dorms by doing that. The broomstick idea is more likely.

    • @asemmel695
      @asemmel695 9 месяцев назад +1

      The book has an answer to this. They used a broom.

    • @emsie.bemsie
      @emsie.bemsie 5 месяцев назад

      They did actually get it from the room of requirement, it’s in the book

  • @KingOfGods27
    @KingOfGods27 9 месяцев назад +8

    34:26 I just assumed they had more professors protecting the Slytherin’s in the great hall

  • @Wood-creature
    @Wood-creature Месяц назад +1

    On a similar line to the truth serum one for trials, all death eaters had the dark mark so they could have checked for the mark (some might have hid it but that could have been used as prrof in the trial at least)

  • @TheCommandSphere
    @TheCommandSphere 9 месяцев назад +5

    for the food, my guess is that they didn't have any food to multiply. They left the weasleys in a rush under not ideal situations. Its possible that the only food they had was foraged, and as ron said, "Dont bother multiplying this,'

    • @udraj914
      @udraj914 9 месяцев назад +1

      They got SOME food from time to time. Hermione brought her muggle money, and they got some eggs and stuff at a farm. So they could have just multiplied it.

    • @EspeonMistress00
      @EspeonMistress00 9 месяцев назад

      Also i think they did try to duplicate some fish but the more they duplicated the less tasty and nourishing it was

    • @sawanna508
      @sawanna508 9 месяцев назад

      I keep wondering thought why it is not possible to transform something else into food? They are able to transform metch sticks into needles (metal into wood) for example. Bread and a piece of wood are mostly made of carbonates. So why can't they just transform wood into bread? Even if digestion would sort of reverse the transformation carbonates would still be in it.

    • @EspeonMistress00
      @EspeonMistress00 9 месяцев назад

      @@sawanna508 They are different types of carbohydrates tho or else you would be eating wood

    • @rodneybates2135
      @rodneybates2135 8 месяцев назад

      You can’t make something from nothing. If you have 1 loaf of bread and multiply it to make 2, you only get the energy and nutrients of 1. If you make 10 you still only get the nutrients of 1. They would not have felt hungry but still would be malnourished from lack of actual food

  • @MariaMastorelli
    @MariaMastorelli 9 месяцев назад +6

    35:03 maybe they just thought it was the map malfunctioning. Sirius tells us that the map never lies, but the Weasley twins don't know that, right?

  • @helRAEzzzer
    @helRAEzzzer 7 дней назад

    I can't remember if this was in the book, but in the films, they explained why the Order didn't tip off the ministry: the trace is removed when a witch or wizard turns 17. All Order members are over the age of 17. Dobby likely had a trace because he was a slave owned by the Malfoys, one of whom works at the ministry. Dobby's magic isn't ever explicitly explained, so that could be a plot hole for why Harry got in trouble for his magic, though.

  • @TheKrilicious
    @TheKrilicious 9 месяцев назад +16

    I believe Hermione does multiplie their food in the Deathly Hallows book, but the issue is the taste and nutritional value becomes lessened the more you multiplie the food with magic, which is why it wasn't going to sustain the three of them for long

    • @hey_mickey1981
      @hey_mickey1981 9 месяцев назад +6

      Yes, thank you, I was searching for this comment. I thought I remembered Hermione saying that but started to second guess myself and was going to check in the book.
      It makes sense though because you are not actually creating new food.

    • @paulinabartosiewicz417
      @paulinabartosiewicz417 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@hey_mickey1981 I don't remember that from the books, only from fun's theory. Hagrid magically enlarged pumpkins, and Harry somehow never complained about the taste of pumpkin juice.

  • @dimakek1004
    @dimakek1004 9 месяцев назад +7

    Regarding multiplying food. Maybe it would make sense to multiply only long term preservables like canned food, as it lasts longer. What's the point for instance of creating 100 steaks, of you can eat only one, while the rest will inevitably rot. I doubt they had a fridge with them

    • @dannylagangonzalez6832
      @dannylagangonzalez6832 9 месяцев назад +2

      Weren't there such things as preservation charms?

    • @dimakek1004
      @dimakek1004 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@dannylagangonzalez6832 can't remember, but possible

  • @lironkufert7495
    @lironkufert7495 7 месяцев назад +1

    About the food part, also isn't a plot hole. They could multiply existing food but then the more you multiply, the more the food looses its nutritional value and doesn't really fill you up. So they did multiply their food but they weren't able to gain sustenance from it, the book says so

  • @mellow3995
    @mellow3995 9 месяцев назад +21

    Veritserum can probably be resisted or overcome, like it only works on weak-willed or injured people. Also it's probably easier to resist if you're aware you've been dosed with it. At least that's what makes sense to me.

    • @shrapnel_19
      @shrapnel_19 9 месяцев назад +3

      No, (Potter-Head Here) Veritaserum is the most powerful Truth Serum, 3 Drops can make ANYONE spill out all of their secrets (Snape said this in the 4th Book). There are other weaker Truth Serums.

    • @mellow3995
      @mellow3995 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@shrapnel_19 Could have sworn JK said it could be resisted as an explanation for the Death Eater Trials.

    • @feetenjoyer-ue3uu
      @feetenjoyer-ue3uu 9 месяцев назад +3

      No, the books seem to imply that there are lesser truth potions that can be tricked or overcome, but veritaserum is unbeatable, unless you have the antidote. Therefore, it doesn’t make sense that the ministry doesn’t use it on suspects

    • @mellow3995
      @mellow3995 9 месяцев назад +2

      Narratively, that seems extremely moronic to have to flawless truth telling serum. Then again this series also has time travel and god mod with Felix Felicis

    • @Kamfys
      @Kamfys 9 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@mellow3995i swear that something was said about purebloods being able to deny truth serum

  • @SNINJAR
    @SNINJAR 9 месяцев назад +26

    These sorts of videos are my favorite, and whilst I haven’t watched the video yet, I know it won’t disappoint. Thank you Morgan for the continued amazing content ❤

  • @lemon_slice7392
    @lemon_slice7392 6 месяцев назад

    gosh i've been watching your videos for years. your voice gives me so much nostalgia.

  • @MariaMastorelli
    @MariaMastorelli 9 месяцев назад +22

    In the fiddles charm thing, remember how worm tail and sirius kept visiting them? They probably chose to do it the way they did so they could keep contact to their friends. What do you think?

    • @TylerJ0412
      @TylerJ0412 9 месяцев назад +11

      They probably also needed someone to bring them food and stuff since they were 100% confined to the house

    • @Lost_feline613
      @Lost_feline613 9 месяцев назад +7

      Fidelius charm*

    • @SGB000
      @SGB000 9 месяцев назад +7

      If lily and James were the keepers, they could have told their friends and then they could enter freely.

    • @paulinabartosiewicz417
      @paulinabartosiewicz417 9 месяцев назад +5

      @@TylerJ0412 They were not 100% confined, Lily wrote in her letter: "Dumbledore's still got his [James'] Invisibility Cloak, so no chance of little excursions."

    • @trystanmentzer873
      @trystanmentzer873 9 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@paulinabartosiewicz417 how were they not 100% confined then?